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Bears talk with David Kaplan, Nick Athan on the Chiefs move to Kansas, Football Friday Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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I'm Millie Cod and hour number two.
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Glad you're with us. The Iowa sports radio network
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flagship from Des Moines sports station one O 6.3 KXNO bottom of
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the hour Nick Athan will head down to Kansas City.
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Get the latest on well on the news from yesterday that an NFL
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team is moving to another state, which leads us right into the
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Chicago Bears and our buddy David Kaplan.
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Centurion Stone of Iowa sponsors KAPI looking for the last minute
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stocking stuffer. How about a new fireplace?
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Centurion Stone? They got great stuff.
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They really do. Hello Cap, how are you?
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I'm doing awesome. My favorite football team is
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alone in first. They had a magnificent comeback
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at Soldier Field. To you all is good man.
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Yeah, it's, it's been unbelievable, Cap, just the way
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that this team continues to, you know, find ways to win games.
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What is that, like 6 or 7? Here's the list here.
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Green Bay, obviously they were down by, they were losing by ten
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with four minutes left against the Giants.
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They beat Cincinnati in the final minute.
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They beat the Vikings in the final minute.
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They beat the Raiders in the final minute.
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They beat the Commanders in the fourth quarter.
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These are all comebacks, Cap, that went their way.
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It's remarkable. Yeah, Caleb Williams is the
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number one rated quarterback in the NFL in the fourth quarter
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when his team is trailing #1 and we're talking ahead of Josh
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Allen and ahead of all these dudes.
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Does he have things to work on? Yes.
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Was their offense not great in the first half?
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Yes. Except they only got 3
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possessions and one of them, their head coach, went brain
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dead at the with a yard or less to go for a first down.
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I had no idea and I loved Ben Johnson what he could possibly
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have been thinking when he decided, yeah, let's go for that
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with a trick play where you not only have to snap it back 7
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yards to Menon Guy, but you got to snap it between Cole Mets
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legs. Like, what are we doing?
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So that was idiotic. And then you only had two other
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possessions. So the second-half, Caleb was
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the man. That he was.
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How do we iron out some of those first half, though?
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I mean, what, what, what's kind of that next step to get to that
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level where we go back a couple weeks ago, the first game
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against the Packers, it was much of the same struggle until the
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final couple minutes of the first half where we come out
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firing right away and we see a good 60 minutes of Caleb
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Williams, not just 30 minutes. One of the things you know, you
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said how do we, you know, iron out the first half?
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They only had three possessions. One of them should have been a
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touchdown. You know, it's your defense.
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I know Ben Johnson said well, they were over 5 in the red zone
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in terms of touchdowns and they had the stop on the 1st
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possession on an incomplete pass in the front right corner of the
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end zone. They had the fumble that nation
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right caused off of Josh Jacobs. But in the end, I mean, your
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defense was giving up eight play, 12 play, 13 yard, 13 play.
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Like, go look at the drive charts and see how many plays
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the Packers were able to run. And so you couldn't, you
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couldn't get off the field, which meant you couldn't get
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your offense on the field. Cap how much credit to your did
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your listeners or how many times was Cairo Santos his name
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invoked because I thought his he was huge.
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I mean, the way that he's playing the wind that he's
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factoring that in and make Spanish made all his kicks for
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Green Bay as well. But his long was 25.
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I mean, there's Santos out there, not the strongest of legs
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in those conditions, figuring the wind and putting them
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through from 51. He had a huge role in this win
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over the Packers. Massive.
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And if I didn't pick Caleb Williams as the MVP of the game,
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I would have gone Cairo Santos. I would have looked at the
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fumble by Josh Jacobs and Nishan Wright.
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Stripped out, phenomenal play. DJ Moore, phenomenal.
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I mean, if anybody's in like a Renegade fantasy league and they
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take DJ Moore out in game, I don't know if you know what
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Renegade is. It's a fantasy league where you
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can literally coach your team the whole game.
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And a friend of mine said I took DJ out.
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Well, DJ made him pay because he went off and then got the 46
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yarder to win the game for the Bears on a sensational throw,
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which by the way, Pro Football Focus just ranked at the number
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one throw in the NFL this year. So that was super cool.
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But DJ obviously deserves a lot of love.
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But Cairo Santos, you are the man and all these people that
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every week I get these tweets or calls to the show or my producer
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Shane Orling, who I love dearly, but this guy's terrible.
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He can't make a 59 or 62 yarder. Let's worry about being
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accurate, because if that guy hadn't been accurate from 4643
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and 51, we're having a very different discussion today.
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No doubt about it and had to use a lot of English there with the
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winds and that one, I don't know how it snuck back around it, but
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he did and he got it done. Veteran kicker.
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He doesn't have the boomer leg, but certainly was making some
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big kicks for the Bears and has throughout the course of most of
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this season. Cap, I want to go to this and
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let's have some fun. Bears are in the number one
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seed. The NFC goes through Chicago.
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The way that this team is built, coupled with the likelihood of
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January weather in Chicago. The answer is yes.
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They're built for this, aren't they?
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They are. They're absolutely built for it.
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Can they go to the Super Bowl? They absolutely can.
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Do I think that the Rams right now, because they got a veteran
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quarterback playing at an MVP level, might be a better team?
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Maybe. Maybe.
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I know they get to the quarterback better with Jared
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Verse, Byron Young. You got a good football team.
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They absolutely do. But you're telling me Bears
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can't run the football in the cold?
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I'm going to tell you you're wrong.
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You're telling me that that team doesn't get takeaways?
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I'm going to tell you, maybe it's not sustainable next year
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and the year after, but absolutely this team can come
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from behind and they're never out of a game.
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So if it if they do settle for the 2 and it does go to one of
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the NFC West teams, the number one seed, then it looks as
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though, I mean it. Is it inevitable that the
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Packers would make their way back to Soldier Field?
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Well, it was right now today it would season ended, you'd be
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playing the Packers 2 versus 7 right here in Soldier Field.
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So we'll see. There's two more to go.
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You only got to worry about this game this week, Sunday Night
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Football. That Niners team does not
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pressure the quarterback well, does not stop the run well that
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they can score. I think the over is the play
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this week. Does that mean the Bears win or
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lose? That remains to be seen. 52 1/2,
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the number at that one currently at Circus Sports for the Bears
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and the Niners. You mentioned the offense of
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what we saw from the 49ers, the opportunistic defense that we've
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seen throughout the course of this year.
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You wonder about the sustainability, but what is it
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about Dennis Allen's teams that year after year?
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Historically, they are so good at generating turnovers, even
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when you kind of look at the parts and they don't add up to a
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great defense. How do they first force so many
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turnovers? First of all, Al Harris, their
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defensive backs coach, he's really, really good at getting
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his guys because he was that way as a player with the Green Bay
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Packers and he coached that way in Dallas last year.
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Getting his guys to flock to the ball and be as aggressive as
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possible. It's like they shot right,
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ripping the ball out of Josh Jacobs hands for Kevin Byard,
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who made Pro Bowl today, leading the NFL in interceptions.
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These guys are just ball Hawks. When the Bears drafted Manon Guy
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with the 7th pick from Rutgers, was Pacheco with the Chiefs the
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7th rounder Trent I think. He was, yeah.
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So another 7th. Becca was the 7th.
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Run. That's what I thought, yeah.
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So, so another seventh round, this Manon guy, Trent, our Trent
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Cappy Swift runs. He's been really nice running
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back. But Manon guy runs violently.
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So does Pacheco. I think it's a Rutgers Trent
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trade. Madonka has been really good and
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seems as though he's getting better as the season gets
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longer. Yeah, he looks really, really
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good. I mean, locked in, he takes care
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of the football and he was a guy that did not have issues for the
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duration of his college career in terms of putting the ball on
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the deck. So we'll see.
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It's a violent, physical game. It just takes a well placed
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helmet that hits the ball in the right spot and the ball's out.
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But he's done a really good job protecting it so far.
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Kathy, I want to have you take us to Chicago and what's going
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on right now we've as long as I've talked to you, as long as
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Ken's talked to you talk about this is a bear's town.
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That's all that matters are the grand scheme of things doesn't
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matter. Cubs, White Sox, Bulls, Black
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Ops. It's a of Bears town with this
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run that they're on right now. This feels different than some
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of the ones, even the Super Bowl team with all the questions of
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Grossman, the good runs that they've had under Orton, the 15
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win season, those kind of things.
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How it's feeling right now and and what makes it so special
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when the Bears are playing and winning like this.
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So you have Cubs fans, you have a bigger base of Cubs fans, and
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you do White Sox fans, but there's still a very passionate
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group of White Sox fans. But most Sox fans aren't rooting
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for the Cubs. Most Cubs fans aren't rooting
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for the Sox. You have Blackhawks fans.
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They haven't been relevant since 2016.
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It's more of a small group, vocal, nice fan base, but not
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everyone's a hockey fan other than Connor Bedard.
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You'd be hard pressed to walk down the street and ask somebody
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to name another Blackhawks play. I don't think they could do it.
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I I'm a sportscaster here. We never talk about the
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Blackhawks. I could probably name you 10
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guys on the roster back when they won the the Stanley Cup.
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I could name you every guy. I mean, it was lock in city on
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whenever they played, even during the regular season.
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It's not that way. The Bulls, the Bulls are
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irrelevant, truly irrelevant. And it's a joke that that crowd
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franchise has fallen as far as it has.
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I mean, really, really awfully sad.
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And then you got the Bears and the Chicago Bears.
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Everybody here, if you grew up here, you're a Bears fan or
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there's something wrong with you.
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And so that, it's just been amazing to see the city's on
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fire about the Bears. We began the conversation.
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Missouri, Kansas fighting amongst themselves, Illinois,
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Indiana, not quite the same kind of rivalry, doesn't have the
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date back to the Civil War at the same level, but Hammond, IN.
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Is this real? What is this is just more
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politicking, What's happening? We saw it happen and it really
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happened in Kansas City. Could the same thing be
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happening to Chicago and Hammond, IN?
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But I'll be stunned if they end up in Hammond, IN, and I'll
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blast them if they do. You cannot move to the Chicago
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Bears to Indiana AB, Hammond, IN, where they spotted a bunch
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of bears. Not Bears trucks, but trucks
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that went to go test the soil and the property that they were
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looking at in that area the last few days.
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Yeah. You know what the backdrop is?
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Freaking oil rig. No, it's not going to happen.
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This is not me crapping all over the state of Indiana.
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The Chicago Bears are not moving to Indiana.
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If they do, that will be a terrible legacy for Kevin
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Warren. You move the Bears where?
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Indiana. Oh, that's that's interesting.
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I don't think George Mccaskey would ever let that happen.
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I don't. Good stuff.
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I want to talk a little baseball with you, Captain.
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I'm going to start with the White Sox because they made some
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news. I think his name is Murakami.
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How you say his name. He's got some pop in his about.
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What does that signing signify, if anything, to White Sox fans?
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Like, I don't think that they're all in in 2026, but they at
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least they made somewhat of a splash in the free agent market
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cap. Would you go that far?
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Yeah, I thought it was really cool that the White Sox did
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that. Look, I don't know how good this
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kid is. I know he's got big, big power.
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It seems like he's got a personality whether he's good or
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not. They finally have become
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relevant again. Now, are they going to go out
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and spend more money and get a really pretty high end starter
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and go get a back end of the bullpen guy?
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Maybe. I don't know.
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I mean, I know Jerry is he squeaks when he walks.
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That guy doesn't spend any money on anything, but he was able to
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talk them into spending 37 million on this kid.
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I hope he's good. That's one and then two, they're
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going to trade Louise Robert here.
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They're going to move the money off the books.
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I probably to the Mets. Reds are in there.
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They'll be a handful you're not going to get much back from.
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Certainly not much is going to help you this year.
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How much money are you asking that team to eat?
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Because if you're going to trade him to, let's say it's the Mets,
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we want you to take all 20 million, well, then you're
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getting me back. But if Jerry says, hey, you know
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what, we'll eat money wherever you trade him to the Reds.
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But the more we eat, the better prospect we get.
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That's how you should do that deal.
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Like, if that's the case and if they truly are in about getting
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the best prospects to help the White Sox down the road on the
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field, then eat whatever you've got to eat.
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That's a fact. So we'll see.
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I don't see any scenario where he's on this team.
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Christian Bethencourt not exactly moving the needle.
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Their latest free agent signee, $1.6 million if he does take us
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into the Alex Bregman part. Obviously what we saw from Shaw
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this season and is this real, the potential of Alex Bregman
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making his way to Chicago. I mean, what the Cubs have done
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so far, and again, it can all change.
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There's a lot of good players still out there.
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What the Cubs have done so far is an embarrassment.
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It really is OK. Phil Maiton, he's a nice setup
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guy, He's fine. Hobie Milner, Caleb Theobard,
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they're fine. Who are you adding to your
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starting rotation? I don't see anyone beating Kyle
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Tucker's door down. So you tell me you can't go back
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to him and say, hey, let's do a shorter, higher AAV deal Now.
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If you don't think he can play well, then don't even get
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involved. That's a different discussion.
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But you've got to add more offense.
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And if you bring Alex pregnant here, then what are you doing
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with Matt Shaw? You developed him to get into
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this point. second-half of the season, he was the finalist for
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Gold Glove. He's got some pop in his bat.
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What are you doing with him? And if he's just going to be a
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bench guy or what does that say about the guy who was the number
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one prospect in your system just a year ago now?
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Are you extending? Nico Horner makes 11,000,000.
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He's out of contract after this year.
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How much is it going to cost to extend them?
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Three for 64 for 80. He's going to get paid.
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So if you're not going to pay that, then you got to absolutely
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deal him now, get him off the team, put Matt Shaw at second
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base, and then sign Alex Bregman.
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But I'll believe it when I see it because that team really
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frustrates me. Is there a chance Nico Horner
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moves on Cap that they don't resign him?
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Well, they got to extend them. Are you going to let them get
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the free agency and then just get a draft pick for a Gold
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Glove caliber? Second player, I love him.
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Hell of a player. He was second in all of baseball
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and batting average with runners in scoring position.
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So if you don't get him extended then what are you going to do?
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Let him get to next fall going into a labor stoppage and not
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have his rights? That would be idiocy.
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Kappa, we're off next Wednesday, so we'll impose on you on
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Tuesday again next week if that's good for you.
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Yeah, I'll make anything work for you guys.
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You're the best, my friend. Happy holidays, capper.
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Appreciate it. Thanks for what you do for us.
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Join this Bears Run for all the Bears fans in our market.
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And I'm guessing it's good for business.
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I eat yours as well, to say the very least.
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Thank you pal. I did a video at the cheese
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department at Whole Foods the other day.
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When the Bears clinched, my son and I sat in my truck watching
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the end of the dot Lions Steelers on my phone.
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They won. We went in.
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I stood in front of all the cheese and I held up a block of
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cheddar. I said, hey, who clinched the
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playoff berth? Oh not these guys.
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Flipped the cheese back, got 120,000 views.
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Like, that's how hot the Bears are.
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That's good stuff. Thank you, pal.
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Appreciate it. Cap talk to you next week.
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Merry Christmas. Good to talk to you.
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Thank you. Merry Christmas, capper to you
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and to yours and all of you out there who celebrate.
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I, I, I honestly, I think it's politics.
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I think it's leverage if nothing else, and I think that the
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governor of Indiana was in on it because as soon as that whisper
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got out there very quickly, he had a statement welcoming them.
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And why wouldn't he, right? Why wouldn't he?
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Of course you're going to do that for your constituents.
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But that one would surprise me. So what's wrong with Soldier
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Field? It does parking, yes.
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There's nowhere to park there is very difficult to get there.
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Yep, even with the trains. Very tough spot we took.
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An Uber and we had to walk through an underground tunnel
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or. Something.
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Oh yeah, I'm sure tailgating incredibly difficult.
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It's just and it's old, even with the renovation, with the.
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Renovations, yeah. It looks like a spaceship.
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It's ugly. Yeah.
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The historical part of it where you had to still keep the
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pillar. So you tried to do that and make
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it modern. Still, they're not enough Luxury
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boxes. We know that's.
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The new. Environment for it, and in
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today's environment, Super Bowls we're going to get.
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One national champions we're going to get.
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One, all those different aspects, big concerts, yeah,
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it's one thing to have it in July when the Stones are there.
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And that's when I was there your June whatever.
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Yeah. However, yeah, A.
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Little bit different in, well, what's starting October through
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April that's a valid. Point, you can't try.
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It's a valid point, and that's one of the things that the boxes
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you're checking in. The Kansas move is all of those
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big events. Final Fours, national
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championship, Super Bowls. You'll get those.
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This just popped in my head when I was driving a lot of
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windshield time. As you know, around this time
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I'll. Say.
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And it was on our way back from Sioux City Sunday, and I don't
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know even what I was listening to or why it jumped into my.
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Mind, why weren't you listening to the Des Moines or the Iowa
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Sports Radio affiliate? Because I was in between.
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OK. But or actually, I was listening
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to a game, that's what it was. But my mind was wandering and I
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was thinking about the concert that I went up to at Jack Trice.
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And all these different realms where private equity coming to
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the Big 12, private equity at Utah.
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How do you make these things a different kind of idea?
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Why don't you make a concert series with a couple of
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different artists where you go to all Big 12 stadiums during
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the summer time? What?
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It did to Jack Tricen. Was it a May concert?
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2 years. Ago it was I was there, I
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didn't. It was a country artist, right?
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George Strait, I think. Yeah, he he works.
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Yes, something like. That and it was packed.
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It was now the beer line sucked. That's all I cared about, right?
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That was why I was there. But you jump around the big and
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you make this a concert series with just those.
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And that's something that as a money maker for the Big 12 as a
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whole. Yeah, I don't know the.
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And you're not going to put it at AT&T and Stadium.
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Now we're going to put this, we're going to go to Fort Worth,
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we're going to have this. It's going to be there.
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Just something to generate revenue in a different way.
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I don't know why it popped in my mind, but it did.
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Well, it didn't Kinnick do a couple of those recently.
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They have. That's another one Big 10.
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They're also looking at private equity.
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I think that's something. But I just thought with your
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Mark and obviously his connections that that was
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something that possibly could make some sense down the line.
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We'll talk to Nick Athen when we come back.
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We're with you until 2:00 off the bench.
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You know, Sean is on vacation today.
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Lucas Strain will be in until 5 overtime Iowa, 5 until 6:00.
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Then all of the local shows are off through, well, through the
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weekend. Everybody's back on Monday.
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Or you know what? Alec and Heather aren't working
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Friday, are they? I don't think they.
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Are not that I don't want. I don't think so.
21:40
I think everybody, everybody right, good.
21:43
Miller Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
21:45
I'm Miller Condon. Welcome back.
21:46
Just past 130 on a Tuesday. Our final half hour before we
21:51
get out of here, turn things over to off the bench.
21:53
Lucas Strain company coming up here at at 2:00.
21:57
Let's get to Nick Athen. Want to go down can city, Nick?
22:00
Mitch Holtis joins us on tape. So I want to have a little back
22:03
and forth with Nick and he joins us.
22:05
Happy happy holidays. Merry Christmas to you.
22:07
Nick Athen. It's good to speak with you.
22:09
Appreciate you coming on big news.
22:11
Obviously, it's been rumored to be out there seemingly getting
22:14
closer. The moves been out there for a
22:16
while. You've been saying it for for
22:18
more than a while that you could see this coming and seemingly is
22:23
here. So is this a done deal?
22:25
Is there no going back from this, Nick?
22:29
Yeah, I mean, they they have, they agreed to the term sheet
22:31
Friday and and and a few details were hired out Monday morning
22:35
before the press conference announced that the lawyers are
22:37
going to put it all on paper. But yeah, it's my understanding
22:40
that this is a done deal. It was a done deal pretty much
22:43
on Friday after the Chiefs once again spoke to officials in
22:47
Missouri who just couldn't ever put together a concrete plan.
22:51
It's certainly not a plan that included putting a Dome facility
22:55
somewhere in Missouri. It was just a, it was just a
22:59
cluster mess. The, the politics in Kansas City
23:01
and Jeff City have always been bad.
23:03
And, and this just kind of highlights, you know, you losing
23:06
the, you've lost the Kansas City Kings, you're going to lose the
23:08
Chiefs, you're probably going to lose the Kansas City Royals as
23:11
well, not to mention the the, the Rams and the Cardinals.
23:16
So it just this is bad. It's just bad for the city.
23:21
Sorry for the residents of Jackson County, but this was a
23:24
no brainer for the Hunt family. It made a lot of sense.
23:27
There was never a doubt in my mind that I ever wavered on the
23:30
fact this is also being going to be the outcome.
23:32
We, Ken and I, both have been a little bit surprised about the
23:36
back and forth between the Missouri side and the Kansas
23:39
side. I mean, is this real rivalry?
23:42
Is it? I mean, obviously you go way
23:43
back in time we talked about in the Civil War, but what is what
23:47
is the back and forth between both sides of the river?
23:51
Well, it's just the ultimate border war.
23:53
It was kind of started when Kansas and Missouri played
23:55
football, you know, back in the, you know, where they play 120
23:58
consecutive years or, or something like that.
24:01
And it just kind of took a life its own as other sports got
24:03
involved. And then about 6-7 years ago,
24:06
Kansas, Missouri signed this border war treaty where they
24:09
wouldn't purge, you know, entities from one state into the
24:13
other. And then lost in all this is
24:15
locked in insurance company, the largest insurance company in the
24:17
world, leading Kansas City for Johnson County in Kansas.
24:21
So, you know, I think from a fan perspective, I get why
24:26
Missourians feel this way. But, you know, Kansas represents
24:31
about 65 percent, 70% of season ticket holders for Johnson
24:36
County. They all travel in the state to
24:40
come there. So now it's just, you know, turn
24:42
around is fair play. I guess the biggest thing that
24:46
confuses me, to be honest with you, is sentimentality and the
24:50
fighting back and forth. That Arrowhead is this, you
24:53
know, cathedral. And it is it also was hosted 50
24:57
years of fertility until Pastor Mahomes came along.
25:00
And that's when it kind of really developed his luster and
25:04
a place that was, you know, no team wanted to go play.
25:07
And it kind of created that atmosphere.
25:09
This is the greatest place in the world.
25:11
But listen, don't stadiums are here to come.
25:15
You guys don't stay is going in Denver.
25:17
You got it going in Washington. You're going to have it in
25:19
Chicago. You're going to have it in
25:20
Kansas City. First thing for fans, this is
25:23
the. Future.
25:24
Yeah, no, you're 1000% right. Every AFC West stadium.
25:28
I, I guess technically the Chargers not a Dome stadium
25:31
because it's not enclosed, right?
25:34
Absolutely is. So you're going to get Super
25:36
Bowls, you're going to get Final Fours, you're going to get
25:38
national championship college football games, you're going to
25:41
get the who's who of the concert tours and doesn't just
25:44
necessarily have to be in the summer months.
25:47
I, I, I guess I don't understand the pushback, Nick.
25:49
I really don't. I think that this is a positive.
25:52
Again, I don't live there, I'm not real familiar with the area,
25:55
but boy seems like a win to me. Yeah, it's a huge one.
25:58
I mean, I see the people that are upset about it.
26:01
I'm not even sure they're season ticket holders.
26:03
You know, I think these are the guys that go get the go get the
26:05
tickets, you know, that are half price on game day.
26:08
I mean, it's a no brainer. I mean, the NFL is a business.
26:12
You and I have been around long enough, no offense, Trent, but
26:16
but again, you and I have been around.
26:17
We've seen any every iteration of the sport.
26:20
We've seen a lot of politics in the sport, we've seen stuff like
26:24
this happen all over the place. But when you look at the Chief
26:27
history and Arrowhead is a beautiful thing.
26:31
But this puts the Chiefs in a conversation where they they
26:35
they are now set for the next 50 years.
26:39
The heirs to the Hunt family are not going to have to worry about
26:42
where to play. You couldn't.
26:44
You couldn't put a Dome on Arrowhead.
26:46
You couldn't really do much because that concrete is 5558
26:49
years old. So at the end of the day, this
26:52
makes a lot of sense. And again, we're talking 2031.
26:56
That's five years. I just hope I live long enough
26:58
to see the Dang thing. So people aren't going to
27:01
remember what they said on December 23rd in 2025.
27:05
And all these fans who say they're not going to go there,
27:08
yeah, they will. If the team's good, they're
27:09
going to go, you know, and it's going to be just as expensive
27:12
There's it's just as expensive it is in Kansas City.
27:15
It's expensive to go to a game in Kansas City.
27:18
The sea prices are through the roof.
27:20
And yeah, they'll probably be just as high going into Kansas,
27:22
but it ain't going to be too much of a jump to what they're
27:25
paying now. Yeah, that kind of I think
27:28
missed out a lot of people. The price point and and what
27:30
things are going to look like in five years, who knows.
27:32
I mean, what as we've seen the rising prices of everything that
27:35
has obviously happened here over the last five years, just go
27:39
back to what it was then and what it is now.
27:42
One other aspect of that How big?
27:45
How big is this stadium? Baller, I think.
27:48
Yeah, it'll be smaller. So you couple that with the
27:51
luxury boxes and a lot more people and a lot more boxes
27:53
here, that's going to feel a lot different too.
27:57
Yeah, I think that the actual feeding capacity of the bowl and
28:01
upper bowl and middle bowl itself is going to be about 64
28:04
to 68,000. But that's not going to include
28:06
sweet, you know, special feeding in the end zone.
28:11
All those things are going to be separate.
28:13
So I think it, you know, it'll probably be over 70,000 at least
28:16
for sure. You know, I don't know how many
28:18
sweet boxes are going to do where they're going to stack
28:21
them. You know this the Chiefs are
28:24
going out kind of going after what you're about to see in
28:27
Tennessee. If you haven't seen the pictures
28:29
of the new stadium, Tennessee do it.
28:31
It's the most impressive stadium design I have ever seen.
28:35
And I've seen a lot of them. And I think when the Chiefs saw
28:38
that they were totally convinced they're going to Kansas.
28:40
But I think you have to look at the capacity of the the seating
28:44
itself, 64 to 68,000 and then the prime seats and the suite
28:49
and the, you know, the end zone seating.
28:51
And if there's a tear, if there's a tear section up on
28:54
top, yeah, those all things are going to be done.
28:56
It's kind of a separate count, I think.
28:58
I don't know that 100%, but that's what I believe.
29:00
So is that the pushback that, that there's going to be fewer
29:04
seats for the, you know, the average fan, if you want to call
29:08
it that, that most of the, you know, the the millionaires and
29:11
the billionaires and the people that can afford those luxury
29:13
boxes catering to them is at the expense maybe of the quote
29:17
little guy. Well, I don't know if that's
29:20
really the case. I mean, you're talking about
29:22
maybe taking out having what, 810 thousand less seats, but
29:29
you're going to have a Dome experience.
29:31
Again, there's going to be other places in this game you can buy.
29:34
I mean, look at Buffalo. I think there's this only
29:36
65,000. The Plan stadiums in Washington
29:40
and then in Chicago are about the same.
29:44
The Raiders stadium is what 66,000?
29:47
So the the 60 mid 60s ever 60s seems to be the trend for a lot
29:53
of things and partly because they don't sell out in some of
29:56
those cities. So those those seats up top are
29:58
vacant. So I, I think they're just
30:00
building a more compact and more intimate, you know, arena in
30:06
which to watch football games. Now, the biggest negative for me
30:10
is from an architectural standpoint, you can never
30:13
replace the sight lines at Arrowhead.
30:14
It's impossible. There's no way to replicate it
30:17
or duplicate it. That's going to be one thing I
30:20
think fans are going to miss. And I think that's why they're
30:22
shrinking it down to where you can keep some of that, some of
30:25
that and still feel like, you know, you're in a packed, packed
30:29
environment with 70,000 plus. Not an environment.
30:32
You've been very often here the last decade, arcade, meaningless
30:35
games, and it looked meaningless against Tennessee, got down to
30:37
nothing and then fell away late in that game after Minshew got
30:40
knocked out. What are you looking to see here
30:43
these last couple of weeks? What are you looking for as a
30:45
fan? Because we know you're going to
30:46
be watching All 60. Maybe we'll see.
30:50
But, you know, I, I listen, I from a pure theatrical, you
30:58
know, if Chris Olidulkin beats the oh God, that's going to be
31:01
the story. So if the Broncos allow that,
31:04
their postseason, their postseason record, their
31:07
postseason. They don't deserve to be there.
31:09
Yeah, but I all I want to see honestly is I just want, I don't
31:13
care about the old, old dolphin factor.
31:16
I care about I want to see the young draft picks get a chance
31:18
to play. Andy Reid and and Matt Nagy and
31:21
and C Spagnola have not allowed the young kids to play.
31:24
You got nothing to play for. The Chiefs have a shot at
31:27
getting the 8th pick. Right now there are 12.
31:31
I think they'll end up around 10.
31:33
Last time they picked 10. They did got a pretty good
31:35
player, Patrick Mahomes, but I just want to see the young guys
31:38
play that, that's all. I mean, this is going to be a
31:41
glorified scrimmage. I think it's the bon voyage for
31:43
Travis Kelce. I think that's going to be the
31:46
whole theme tomorrow or Thursday and into the broadcast.
31:50
It's all the promotions is about Travis Kelce.
31:53
Yep on him. I'm announcing on Thursday this
31:56
is it and saying his bid adieu to the Chief Kingdom and fandom
32:02
and become Mr. Taylor Swift here in about 6 months and call it a
32:07
career. That's what I think should
32:10
happen now whether or not it does.
32:11
But that's that's the only conversation to give Travis
32:14
Kelsey a proper send off, if indeed this is his last game at
32:17
Arrowhead. Yeah, it feels like it to me.
32:19
Nick, I totally agree with you. Hey, brother.
32:20
Listen, Merry Christmas. Thanks for doing this for us.
32:23
Appreciate it. And we'll talk to you in 2026.
32:27
Merry Christmas. Happy New Year, Nick.
32:28
Thank you all. Right.
32:29
Merry Christmas. Good luck to your Broncos.
32:31
I'm I'm slightly rooting for them for the for the Super Bowl.
32:34
OK. All right.
32:35
Thank you, buddy. I'm good to hear from you, Nick
32:37
Athen, on the Kansas City Chiefs and the pending move to the
32:41
state of Kansas. All right, we'll come back wrap
32:43
things up on a Tuesday. Got to have your Football
32:46
Tuesday picks ready to go. What football we're not making
32:49
picks against in the in the deal.
32:50
Are we you working Friday? No, but the numbers are no yet.
32:55
I have 0 preparation and I don't think Shawn's ready well.
32:58
He should be. We're not ready.
33:01
No, don't flex. We.
33:02
Next now, next Friday, we do work Yes of.
33:05
Course. So we'll do pick.
33:07
No, we do picks every single week leading up to the I'm not
33:09
ready, you got 6 minutes, I'm not ready, 6 minutes.
33:14
Miller Excuse me, Condon back after these.
33:17
And then off the bench, who knows football better?
33:21
The war wages on. It's time for the afternoon
33:24
pickup sponsored by Circus Sports on 106.3, KXNO and the
33:30
Iowa Sports Radio Network. I'm Hillary Condon.
33:34
Welcome back. Time for our picks.
33:36
I wanted to be on record. I am filing an official appeal.
33:40
Are you working Friday? No.
33:44
Yes, last day of the week, OK. By the way, I love my picks.
33:50
When I get to those coming up, I got a lot of confidence.
33:52
Well. You went what, in four last?
33:54
Week. Well, I can't be much worse.
33:56
All right, let's get. So what is our total then?
33:58
Did you catch me? Are you?
33:59
Is this why we're doing this? Because you're starting to
34:01
narrow the gap. Well, narrow maybe.
34:04
I'm 4042 and two, you're 4538 and two, you still got a
34:08
commanding lead in our head to head and I still have Louisville
34:12
from last week pending. They are winning by 4.
34:14
What did you get that number? 6 1/2.
34:16
Oh, you got the right number. Yes, absolutely got the right
34:18
side of it, but closing value in bowl games, not nearly as
34:22
important as it feels it is in a real football.
34:24
But I do have the honors this week and we kick things off with
34:27
a bowl game. I mentioned earlier, I'm still
34:29
going to grab New Mexico plus the 2 1/2 against the Gophers.
34:32
Minnesota travel. Darius Taylor, will he, won't
34:35
he? I just love Eck.
34:37
You do wonder. Jason Eck didn't really jump
34:39
into a lot of jobs. The New Mexico coach after what
34:41
a great job he did this season if he's just waiting for
34:44
Wisconsin, his alma mater, to open.
34:46
Since it didn't open, I'm not going to take a job for a year.
34:48
I'll stick around for another season.
34:50
We'll grab the Lobos plus 2 1/2. Let's continue with the Mountain
34:54
West. San Diego State against this
34:56
depleted North Texas team lost so many guys. 3 1/2 is the
35:01
number here with a great you. Know that's on my list.
35:04
That's all right. Very rare this year that we've
35:06
been on the same side of things. We'll try it for this one.
35:09
San Diego State, the Aztecs, plus 3 1/2 to the NFL.
35:12
We go. We start things up.
35:13
For me on Saturday, I'm grabbing the Chargers and laying the 1
35:17
1/2. Houston's defense travels.
35:19
I know it, it's Herbert. It feels like things are
35:22
clicking and maybe underrated how good this Chargers defense
35:25
is against the offensive line of Houston.
35:27
I like it. Going to take the chargers -1
35:30
1/2 Said earlier I had it at 2 1/2.
35:32
Now it's three, but we'll still lead it.
35:33
Gimme the 49ers. Can the magic dust continue for
35:37
my Bears? Not seen it this week on the
35:39
road. Gimme San Francisco laying the
35:41
field goal. My best bet of the week in the
35:44
NFL. Seattle.
35:46
Long road trip, Carolina, Things that matter plus 7 1/2 the
35:51
Panthers my best bet of the week.
35:54
All right, Trent, I put a lot of thought into these picks.
35:56
I love my picks this week. Let's get to them.
35:59
We will start in we'll start tomorrow night the Hawaii Bowl.
36:02
I love this bowl. One of them I, I hated when
36:05
COVID got it in 2020, but here we go.
36:08
I'm going to take Cal Sagapola telly, last chance to say his
36:12
name. I'll take the point and a half
36:13
and take Cal over Hawaii. I'm with you on San Diego State,
36:17
as I showed you when you were talking, thinking that is on my
36:19
list as well, 3 1/2 San Diego State.
36:22
I will take that. Here's a huge game that nobody's
36:25
talking about. And why should they be?
36:28
These are teams 32 and 31 in the NFL.
36:31
The winner of this game loses the number one overall pick.
36:35
I don't think the Raiders are going to screw it up.
36:38
I really don't. They need a quarterback.
36:40
Giants have their QB. Giants +2 Detroit.
36:44
There's actually a 5 1/2 at Hard Rock right now.
36:46
This number 7 1/2 most places. Max Brosemer starting for the
36:50
Vikings. I'll take the Lions and my best
36:53
bet of the week. And you've got him as well.
36:54
I think they're a legitimate threat to win it all.
36:58
Been saying it for years. Yes, you have.
37:00
The Los Angeles Chargers, you're 1000% right.
37:02
That defense is good. So is Justin Herbert.
37:05
So is Iranian Hampton. Chargers are a threat.
37:08
Would you fall off your chair if you get an all LA Super Bowl?
37:11
I would because the Chargers would be involved.
37:14
We saw that back in the early 90s.
37:15
It didn't go well. Stam, Humphreys.
37:18
Mariam Butts. #17 Stan Humphreys, Good stuff.
37:22
That's going to do it. And now we're sure Sean and
37:24
Lucas will participate. Oh, you know what if they don't?
37:26
That's a zero. That's a no for five.
37:28
That's a goose egg, Yeah. What they normally do so.
37:32
Yeah, we should. It was not a great week for any
37:34
of us last. Week.
37:35
No, I don't think. Yeah, you're right.
37:36
I mean my one in five did not hurt that this was a good week
37:39
to stink. Yes, we all stunk.
37:41
We did. But we still have the lead over
37:42
the. Boys, that's the main thing.
37:44
That's the only thing for me. All right, so tomorrow, what do
37:46
you do? Tomorrow you're headed to Osage.
37:47
Yep, going to Osage, probably leave right afternoon, something
37:50
like that. Get up there, we'll see.
37:52
Maybe a cocktail before we go over to church and then head
37:55
over. This is the big family though.
37:57
Tons of cousins for the kids to play with.
37:59
Cousins, they usually only see once or twice a year, so always
38:02
a good time. My cousin Chuck, who just built
38:04
a new bar in his garage. I'm excited to see that.
38:06
Nice. Chuck enjoys his alcoholic
38:08
beverages, so I can't wait to see what he did in the garage
38:11
with his new bar. And we got a little gift for
38:13
Chuck. Yeah.
38:14
You got to help serenade the new bar, right?
38:16
Yeah. Christen.
38:16
It, yes, absolutely. So we'll bring a little extra
38:18
for him to stock the shelves back there, get on the road,
38:22
back at it then and then the wrapping and everything that
38:25
happens. And after we get home, about
38:27
midnight, usually 23 AM, those kids, they'll be raring to go.
38:32
So what we do is before we wake up, they can go to their
38:37
stocking. Yep, Yep, they can.
38:38
We should be. They can see what Santa brought
38:40
in the stocking. No mom and dad sleep.
38:41
Yep, no opening presents, nothing like that.
38:43
But go see what's in the stocking.
38:45
Santa usually brings at least a little toy or something in
38:47
there, something to keep him occupied for a while, and then
38:50
when we hustle down the stairs then we get into all the gifts
38:53
and everything like. That nice, very nice.
38:55
How about you and Cindy? And Stella's coming over
38:59
tomorrow, but she can be here tonight, too.
39:01
He was here last night. You know what?
39:03
I actually bought Cindy a Christmas present for the first
39:06
time in about 10 years. That's awesome.
39:07
It was. Speaking of Christmas presents,
39:09
I got something. For you.
39:10
No, you don't. Why do you do this every year?
39:13
Yeah, we don't do Christmas. Cindy and I, we by ourselves,
39:16
right? We get something.
39:18
If you need something just every single year, just run out and
39:21
get. You shouldn't have done this.
39:22
Thank you, brother. I appreciate it.
39:23
I wish you wouldn't have, but thank you.
39:27
I appreciate it as I open it up here.
39:28
What is this bad boy? Oh my God, a Guerrero jersey.
39:36
Signed what? Vladdy Junior.
39:39
This isn't cheap dude. Merry Christmas.
39:42
Oh man, it's our last Christmas together it.
39:44
Is. Yeah, it is.
39:46
I feel terrible. You shouldn't, absolutely.
39:48
Nice man, this is really nice. I I didn't get a frame for you,
39:52
you got to do that on your own. That's fine.
39:53
Merry Christmas, everybody out there listening, have a safe,
39:56
happy and remember it. They go so fast.
39:59
They go so fast with your kids. Merry Christmas.
40:01
Happy holidays. Talk to you next week.