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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: and now a guy with a stimulus check and he's
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Speaker 1: not afraid to use it. J P. Cha, Well, it
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Speaker 1: hasn't arrived, but it's already been used. That's how it works.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on the Thursday, April six.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in j P. Shatrick with you. It's a nice
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Speaker 1: day outside. I hope you're doing well. Uh, with everything
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Speaker 1: as best we can, including this radio program. Here's what
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Speaker 1: we're getting to today, and we've got a busy show ahead.
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Speaker 1: John Osier week capping the Dave called Well, Doug Marrone
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Speaker 1: press conference, the pre draft quote unquote luncheon. If you
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Speaker 1: will us today over zoom, we'll hear a couple of
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Speaker 1: bites from those guys and see what John Osier has
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Speaker 1: taken away from that. You can read about that on
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars website currently. Prior of the Jaguars running back
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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor joins us. We caught up earlier this week.
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Speaker 1: You'll see the full video tomorrow on the team website,
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Speaker 1: but you'll hear a little bit from Freddy t today
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Speaker 1: about where the Jags stand and some maybe what they
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Speaker 1: could do in the draft. We'll hear from NFL network
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Speaker 1: analysts Charles Davis and Charlie Castlely and get their thoughts
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Speaker 1: in some of the position groups in the draft this year.
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Speaker 1: And Jack's analyst Jeff Lockman wraps up the show with
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Speaker 1: us a little bit later today. Dave called Well and
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Speaker 1: Doug marrone on a conference call today. Dave called Well,
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Speaker 1: with twelve draft picks this year, to work with picks,
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Speaker 1: very it's huge, man, And you know this is the
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Speaker 1: most draft capital we had here and and we need
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Speaker 1: to hit on all twelve. And that's our and that's
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Speaker 1: our philosophy and in our processes that we want to
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Speaker 1: make every one of them count. And if if we
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Speaker 1: could use one of those to go maybe trade up
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Speaker 1: and get a guy that that we want in the
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Speaker 1: select round, we'll do that too. And and you never know,
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Speaker 1: we may we may acquire some more throughout the draft.
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Speaker 1: Well here from head coach Doug Marone coming up. We
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Speaker 1: go to the phone line now and welcome and Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot Com senior writer John Osier, who was on that
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Speaker 1: call today as well. John, Good afternoon, How are you good?
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Speaker 1: How are we Well? We're here, which is good and
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Speaker 1: uh we we've had a lot of Jaguars news today,
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Speaker 1: which is also good. When when the head coach and
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Speaker 1: the general manager get on a pre draft conference call,
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Speaker 1: video chat, whatever you want to call it, that's always news. Now.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Dave really said anything there. He
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Speaker 1: said he has twelve picks. They couldn't move. They could
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Speaker 1: not There was anything definitive there, but that's kind of
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Speaker 1: how it works these days leading up to a draft. Well,
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Speaker 1: you never expect any breaking news from the pre draft
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Speaker 1: call or the luncheon. Did you get your pizza? By
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Speaker 1: the way, j p PR staff s pizzas to everybody
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Speaker 1: on the call, including John and I apparently, yeah, that
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Speaker 1: made it official. So um, I don't think anybody expected
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Speaker 1: Dave to say, hey, we're trading up. I mean not,
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Speaker 1: what do you say going into the draft. It was interesting.
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Speaker 1: He was asked late in the show by Stamp or
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Speaker 1: a late in the conference by stam Qvars, how many
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Speaker 1: guys do you have that you absolutely wouldn't trade to
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Speaker 1: pick four? Which you know, I means how many guys
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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen or Jalen Ramsey deal love in this thing?
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Speaker 1: And he said four, which I think is you know
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Speaker 1: you would think and I'm putting words in his mouth,
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Speaker 1: but you know, Brown Simmons, a Kuda, uh, guys like
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Speaker 1: that probably in that range, maybe a quarterback who knows uh.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was most interesting about what Dave said
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Speaker 1: was the tone of his response when he was asked
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Speaker 1: how key is this and he was asking the nature
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Speaker 1: of the rebuild. Dave doesn't use the word rebuild at
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Speaker 1: this thing, but he said it's huge. They've got twelve
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Speaker 1: pick they need to hit on him. You're not gonna
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Speaker 1: hit on all twelve. But it was clear I thought
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Speaker 1: in days answer j P that he understands how important
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Speaker 1: it is they have traded away veteran to get twelve picked.
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Speaker 1: Here you're putting a lot of cards on the table
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Speaker 1: with his draft, and he understands the importance of it.
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Speaker 1: So if if twelve guys show up here and then
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this before that a lot of those guys,
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Speaker 1: if not all of them, you feel like would make
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Speaker 1: the team because of the roster or the salary cap
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Speaker 1: situation or all that. That's a lot of youth running
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Speaker 1: around the field compared to some veteran players or here before.
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Speaker 1: So that's a risky proposition. Well, it is, and you
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Speaker 1: know it's it's gonna put a huge emphasis on leadership
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Speaker 1: from young guys like Josh Allen, John Taylor Gardner Minshew,
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Speaker 1: you're turning the keys over to the franchise to a
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Speaker 1: young bunch, and you know that's scary. It didn't necessarily
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Speaker 1: work out great when they did that in thirteen and fourteen,
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Speaker 1: but I don't think there was the talent base back
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Speaker 1: then that there's gonna be with this bunch. Um. It's
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Speaker 1: been interesting every time Doug talked about this team, Doug Morone,
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Speaker 1: and he did again today. He's talked about being excited
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Speaker 1: about this group for a number of reasons. He talked
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Speaker 1: about the culture. He talked about having a bunch of
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Speaker 1: guys that you're not dealing with the distractions of recent years.
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Speaker 1: You know clearly they're taking the approach this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be a young team, a fun team, a talented team
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Speaker 1: that probably didn't have a whole lot of expectations. Uh,
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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a case of, hey, let's go out,
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Speaker 1: let's not worry about off field stuff. Let's not worry
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Speaker 1: maybe about personal things, individual things. Let's go have fun
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Speaker 1: playing football. Uh. That's clearly Doug approach. And I guess
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Speaker 1: we'll see if that works. Jaguars dot Com senior writer
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Speaker 1: John Os, you're joining us on the phone. This is
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon. Glad you're along
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Speaker 1: with us today. Let's hear from head coach Doug Maron. Now.
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Speaker 1: A big topic of conversation and starting to get a
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Speaker 1: little rumbling in some of these mock drafts is the
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Speaker 1: quarterback position. And he was asked today head coach Doug
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Speaker 1: Maron was what his position is on Gardner? Minshew, and
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Speaker 1: do they want to back it up? We evaluate everyone
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Speaker 1: in so we evaluated, you know, the quarterback position, just
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Speaker 1: like we evaluated to Van running back radition, everything you know.
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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times you look out
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Speaker 1: there and you know, right now you know this this question.
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Speaker 1: I hope you already gets tripe right now. If we
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Speaker 1: want to play garden menshos our guy, and I'm excited
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Speaker 1: about that. But do I want competition for him? Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: You want competition for everyone, though you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to make it where you know, I'm answering this
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Speaker 1: question and Maron is not a confident or Maroon wants competition.
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Speaker 1: I want, you know, just for the quarterback. I want
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Speaker 1: competition for everyone. The one thing about Gardner that you know,
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Speaker 1: he has shown some good things last year. You know
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Speaker 1: we did win obviously a six games with him. Uh,
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Speaker 1: he's the guy right now is working his ass off
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Speaker 1: still again, you know how we're working on getting a
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Speaker 1: better football team. Like Dave said, if we bring someone
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Speaker 1: in or you know, the other thing is they bring
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Speaker 1: some people in around that can help that position at quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Interesting stuff there from the head coach and in the
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Speaker 1: same kind of idea. It's not like he's gonna show
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Speaker 1: you everything, but they do like what he brought to
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Speaker 1: the table last year. They like his work ethic this offseason,
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Speaker 1: and then time will tell what happens. If there's a
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Speaker 1: you know, if there's somebody that shows up in on
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Speaker 1: draft night that you have to go get, you have
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Speaker 1: to go get him. Well, I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: fans don't necesarily want to hear this. But you know,
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Speaker 1: Menshu is not the guy yet, meaning capital T, capital G.
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Speaker 1: And he showed enough to give you to make you
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Speaker 1: hope that he is. He showed enough things to make
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Speaker 1: you think that maybe he is. But you know, the
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Speaker 1: franchise right now is not ready to on April six,
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Speaker 1: give him the keys to the car and say, hey,
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Speaker 1: let's go. Uh. I think there is a situation where
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Speaker 1: they still he's a young player. And even if they
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Speaker 1: do feel that way, which maybe they do, they don't
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Speaker 1: want to publicly say it yet. They don't want to
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Speaker 1: tell Gardener, hey you're the man. Uh No, let's keep working,
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Speaker 1: Let's keep taking the approach if he's got to earn it.
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Speaker 1: And I think most importantly right now, JP, don't tip
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Speaker 1: your hand going into the draft. Hey, there's no way
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Speaker 1: we're not taking a quarterback at number nine. You know,
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Speaker 1: because if you're sitting there at number nine and there's
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Speaker 1: a quarterback on the table and and teams want to
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Speaker 1: trade up for him, you want to make sure that
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Speaker 1: teams know that you're not necessarily not gonna take one
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Speaker 1: if you will. So I think there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: reasons for not saying that yet. Main I think that
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Speaker 1: they don't want to necessarily, they want to make Gardners
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Speaker 1: still earn what they hope he can earn. John Ozan
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Speaker 1: with US Jaguars dot Com Senior writer, nothing new on
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Speaker 1: the Unique and got Way front. That was going to
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Speaker 1: be a question that you knew was coming from somebody,
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Speaker 1: and Dave Caldwell has pretty much said all he's gonna
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Speaker 1: say about until something else happens. It feels like, well,
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Speaker 1: they've taken the approach. Unique is going to say what
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Speaker 1: he's gonna say on Twitter, and I think that's his right. Uh,
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Speaker 1: they understand that he's unhappy. They understand that he's gonna
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Speaker 1: stay thaying. The organization from the time last season ended
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Speaker 1: and really from the start of all this and said, hey,
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Speaker 1: we want him, we wanted to play for us. But
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Speaker 1: they're not going to get into announcing their feelings about
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Speaker 1: the whole situation on Twitter. They're not going to respond
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Speaker 1: to what he said. Uh, you know, that's really a
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Speaker 1: spot where the player says what he's gonna say. I
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Speaker 1: wasn't surprised Dave took that approach. I think they'd still
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Speaker 1: like to have him next year. Uh, and if they
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Speaker 1: get something to blows them out of the water, they
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Speaker 1: would trade them. But I don't think that that's there. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's their want. And they're certainly
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Speaker 1: not gonna come out to day and say we're cutting ties.
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Speaker 1: That's not the way they feel. John. I know you've
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Speaker 1: you've covered this over and over again after the press
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Speaker 1: conference today, and you've got both your stories available now
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com. And what do you got up tomorrow?
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Speaker 1: What's coming up the next day or two from you?
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like to know? Jake Noyes, Actually, I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna tip my hand either. No tomorrow. It kind of
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Speaker 1: parsed through a lot of what Doug said about the
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Speaker 1: off season program. I think it's interesting how the virtual
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Speaker 1: off season programs a lot of people know, much like
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Speaker 1: the draft is virtual, it's gonna be virtual for the players.
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Speaker 1: It's an important time, meaning Jay Gruden's got to get
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Speaker 1: his offense to these guys and how they're going to
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Speaker 1: go about doing that. I think the big thing to
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Speaker 1: know about the off season program the communication between coordinator
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Speaker 1: and quarterback. It's really going to be the key, and
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that there's not gonna be a lot
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Speaker 1: of conversation between those two elements, but overall they're gonna
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Speaker 1: get the information. They're gonna get the guys in the cloud.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be up to players to consume that information
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Speaker 1: and be ready for when they come back. So we'll
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Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit and the stories on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. Looking forward to that. Always look forward
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Speaker 1: to chatting with you. And we got draft coverage next week.
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Speaker 1: How about that. About this time next week will be
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Speaker 1: uh three or four hours away from the start of
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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, and that week will go by quickly. John,
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Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Always appreciate your all right, buddy,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, Busy Show. Our thanks to John Ozer,
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Speaker 1: It's now time to catch up with Pride of the
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Speaker 1: with Freddy t down in South Florida. They're hanging at
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Speaker 1: But all well so far. In the Fred Taylor household
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Speaker 1: down South. We talked about plenty of things here, including
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Speaker 1: what the Jaguars have done in this offseason and what
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Speaker 1: they could be doing a week from right now. Mr Taylor,
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Speaker 1: how you holding up, sir? I'm good man, I'm good.
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Speaker 1: Just um, just trying to stay positive, you know, trying
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Speaker 1: to stay patient. Unlike everybody you see on social media,
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Speaker 1: everybody's started, you know, frantic, and they're panicking in their
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Speaker 1: own right. You know, every everybody's talking about not staying
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Speaker 1: at light all right, you know, frustrated by being at home.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think this is a time, you know,
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Speaker 1: you gotta you know, just a dig deep, you know,
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Speaker 1: discover something new about yourself and just adapt the best
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Speaker 1: that you can. And I think more importantly, uh, just
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Speaker 1: do your part. You know. It's Uh, we talked about
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Speaker 1: the country, you know, then you talk about community, but yourself,
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Speaker 1: as the individual, you're the foundation to that all I think, Uh,
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Speaker 1: me personally, I've just been trying to help where I
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Speaker 1: can't help. But I'm good, man, I'm good. I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to keep Eyeland things. You know. Uh, it's bad enough
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Speaker 1: as it is. I don't always jump into you know, sport.
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Speaker 1: I started run away from everything. But now give me
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Speaker 1: a little bit more of an opportunity to try to
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Speaker 1: dig in a little bit and keep my eye open
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Speaker 1: on things that's going on. Fred, let's talk a little football.
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Speaker 1: It's been a little bit since we've been able to
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Speaker 1: catch up with you, and there's been a lot that's
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Speaker 1: happened for the Jaguars over this off season. Some big
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Speaker 1: games have moved on in Calis Campbell traded away to Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: You got a fifth round pick for him, a j
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Speaker 1: boy going to Denver. Nick Foles, for goodness sakes, is
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Speaker 1: with the Chicago Airs now or the fourth round pick.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of moving parts that they had to do,
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Speaker 1: some of these things because they were up against and
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Speaker 1: in fact over the salary cap at the start of
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Speaker 1: the year, right. I mean it was necessary moves, you know,
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Speaker 1: as a fan, as a Jaguar lifer, as a fan. Uh,
19:14
Speaker 1: you know, I think the one that surprised me the
19:17
Speaker 1: most was the Klais move. Uh. Just a big guy leader,
19:22
Speaker 1: you know, someone who's gonna be much needed in that
19:24
Speaker 1: locker room. So we have to you know, another question
19:27
Speaker 1: alongside who is the draft picks you're gonna be is
19:31
Speaker 1: who's going to be the leader? You know, who are
19:33
Speaker 1: the young guys that are either already there or coming in.
19:36
Speaker 1: You know, who are they gonna follow? Who are they
19:38
Speaker 1: gonna look up to? I've seen somewhere where Leonard, you know,
19:43
Speaker 1: he's been sort of uh saying, well, man, I'm not
19:46
Speaker 1: gonna have any more teammates left on his social media,
19:49
Speaker 1: But I really firmly believe that this is an opportunity
19:53
Speaker 1: for Leonard to solidify himself, you know, as a leader.
19:57
Speaker 1: Go ahead and accept the role. Man. You know you've
19:59
Speaker 1: been there as Ah's fourth year guy coming up, so
20:04
Speaker 1: I think this is the time to accept that role
20:06
Speaker 1: and try to find something positive in it all. But
20:10
Speaker 1: a lot of moves made necessary moves for salary cap
20:14
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be tough to replace some of those guys,
20:17
Speaker 1: namely Calais. You know, boy he he he didn't quite
20:22
Speaker 1: necessarily have that same you know, smoking fire behind him
20:26
Speaker 1: as he did when he first arrived. But cornerback position,
20:30
Speaker 1: I think that's the need too, but more importantly that
20:33
Speaker 1: defensive You're not gonna win any games if you can't
20:36
Speaker 1: stop anybody or getting pressure on anyone. So replace the Calais.
20:40
Speaker 1: I think that probably should be, in my opinion, one
20:43
Speaker 1: of the more important or one of the big priorities
20:46
Speaker 1: in the draft. Bred won't get to your thoughts on
20:49
Speaker 1: the draft a little deeper here coming up in a minute,
20:52
Speaker 1: but we mentioned there obviously Nick Foles on, so that
20:55
Speaker 1: means Gardner, Minshew and Josh Jobs are in the quarterback
20:59
Speaker 1: room currently. So it seems like it's Gardner Minshew's job
21:02
Speaker 1: at least for now to putting what happens in the draft.
21:05
Speaker 1: Maybe Dave Caldwell pulls a fast food and sneaks a
21:08
Speaker 1: quarterback in early. You never know, right, but it seems
21:11
Speaker 1: like Gardner is the guy that was a good rookie
21:12
Speaker 1: year for him. Yeah. No, it was really good rookie year.
21:15
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he and they have to they
21:18
Speaker 1: have to compete. I think it would be nice if
21:20
Speaker 1: they could somehow either find another veteran guy. It would
21:24
Speaker 1: be tough at this point, but someone else to come in,
21:28
Speaker 1: you know, sort of help bring Gardener along even more. Um.
21:33
Speaker 1: I thought Folds did a great job last year of
21:37
Speaker 1: taking him under his wing in spite of, you know,
21:39
Speaker 1: all the other things that were going on. But it's
21:42
Speaker 1: always good to have a better guy in there that's
21:45
Speaker 1: been through that scene. It knows how to prepare, can
21:48
Speaker 1: help teach Gardener because he's still raw. You know, he
21:53
Speaker 1: had a solid rookie campaign, but he's still raw. What
21:57
Speaker 1: we say, fourteen games he started thirteen a nine one
22:00
Speaker 1: h QBR quarterback rating, twenty one touchdowns to six I
22:04
Speaker 1: and t s ards passing. That's all good that's all good,
22:09
Speaker 1: but you know, the errand throws the other opportunities he
22:13
Speaker 1: had where you know, he didn't necessarily have to flush
22:16
Speaker 1: the pocket, you know, but he was seeing things and
22:19
Speaker 1: then he started, you know, trying to attempt to menshu
22:22
Speaker 1: magic and get creative, and you know that possibly could
22:25
Speaker 1: be in him naturally. But I think that he needs
22:29
Speaker 1: to come down a bit, you know, and become that
22:31
Speaker 1: guy who could actually, um, you know, just this step
22:35
Speaker 1: up and be a little bit more dependable. So but
22:39
Speaker 1: you never know, you never know what they're gonna bring in,
22:41
Speaker 1: who they're gonna bring in, if Dave Paul will Is
22:44
Speaker 1: gonna draft another guy, but right now Gardner is the guy. Uh,
22:49
Speaker 1: everything's on his plate right now. Fred Taylor was a
22:52
Speaker 1: spread of the Jaguars running back for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
22:55
Speaker 1: and her co host on Jaguars postcame part of that argument.
22:58
Speaker 1: If Gardner is a guy, get him some more weapons
23:00
Speaker 1: to see if he's really the guy to help him
23:02
Speaker 1: out fully. Right, they have d J. Charcoo into the
23:05
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl last year. They got for that, um, they've
23:07
Speaker 1: added the tight end and effort. Oliver is gonna come
23:10
Speaker 1: back off injury. So maybe finally they'll figure out the
23:13
Speaker 1: tight end position and have some success their long term.
23:15
Speaker 1: But they could use another guy on the outside right,
23:19
Speaker 1: I mean a wide receiver opposite chart. That would be
23:22
Speaker 1: a really nice get earlier in this draft. It would
23:25
Speaker 1: be really nice. It would be really really nice. The
23:28
Speaker 1: the receiver from Alabama, Jerry Judy. He's a great skilled
23:34
Speaker 1: route runner, you know. I think he can get better
23:37
Speaker 1: and catching the ball. He had some some drops, but
23:40
Speaker 1: he's such a great route runner, and you need that
23:43
Speaker 1: in the NFL because of the timing. You want to precision.
23:47
Speaker 1: Uh and in the routes that the depths the proper depths,
23:51
Speaker 1: knowing how to maneuver in zones, the man versus man coverage.
23:55
Speaker 1: He's shown some great ability. So I like Jerry Judy,
23:58
Speaker 1: and I also like Justin Jefferson. You know, he's a
24:02
Speaker 1: guy I think would be really nice, you know. And
24:06
Speaker 1: uh he's a guy who terrorizes the slot. I think
24:09
Speaker 1: he was six one two oh five or somewhere in
24:12
Speaker 1: that ball park, and he showed outstanding hands at l
24:16
Speaker 1: s U. Uh just his campaign last year was amazing.
24:20
Speaker 1: So I and and he and uh DJ to have
24:23
Speaker 1: familiarity then to L s U. Guys, I don't know
24:26
Speaker 1: if we can handle three. L s US got to say,
24:28
Speaker 1: we're a little enough of tigers over here, Fred, But uh,
24:32
Speaker 1: you know history usually works that way, man. Uh. You
24:35
Speaker 1: know L s U has been a great collegiate program lately.
24:39
Speaker 1: They've always had solid players. You know, they finally got
24:42
Speaker 1: a coach and play and then they had a quarterback
24:45
Speaker 1: that went out there and played well. So those guys,
24:48
Speaker 1: you know, they have some ability. We'll see what happens.
24:52
Speaker 1: Or maybe even Derek Brown at nine. I mean I
24:55
Speaker 1: liked every Brown at nine. First I said, Calais was
24:59
Speaker 1: you know, the already was defensive line in my opinion.
25:02
Speaker 1: He's the beast. He could play any position across the
25:05
Speaker 1: board in my opinion. So I like him at nine.
25:09
Speaker 1: You know, I love that ninth pick. Ninth pick did okay?
25:13
Speaker 1: Uh that was me everything. Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't.
25:17
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, So that I was ninth pick and ninety eight.
25:21
Speaker 1: So I got a lot of love for that slot.
25:23
Speaker 1: And Derek Brown, like I said, he's a beast out
25:25
Speaker 1: there SEC guy or either it just fall back and
25:28
Speaker 1: get a receiver at a twin who knows. But they
25:31
Speaker 1: got a lot of room. Fred Taylor with US proud
25:33
Speaker 1: of the Jaguars running back and Fred, I think you
25:35
Speaker 1: could be a video or TV producer in your future.
25:38
Speaker 1: Because that's a perfect segue to the defensive talk for
25:41
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. They've added some pieces there obviously in
25:45
Speaker 1: free agency, and it's because the second part of the
25:49
Speaker 1: season they were carved up in the running game and
25:52
Speaker 1: especially right up the middle of the defense. And you
25:54
Speaker 1: can't get much done when you can't stop the running game,
25:57
Speaker 1: especially you're right up the middle. So they got a
26:00
Speaker 1: middle linebacker and showbirge. Um, they're moving Miles Jack to
26:03
Speaker 1: the weak side. But the big question now is what's
26:06
Speaker 1: that interior going to look like? And either if it's
26:10
Speaker 1: brown or it's kin Law or somebody like that, you
26:13
Speaker 1: feel like that's still um the final one of the
26:16
Speaker 1: final pieces missing on this defense. Yeah, whatever it is,
26:19
Speaker 1: of whomever it is right now, he's gonna have to
26:22
Speaker 1: be a young guy that comes in. He's got to
26:24
Speaker 1: be a beast. You know, he's gonna have to have
26:27
Speaker 1: a dog attitude of mentality because it starts with the
26:30
Speaker 1: down for you know, um, the question, one of the
26:33
Speaker 1: big question marks, uh and I'm pretty sure concerned for
26:36
Speaker 1: the team when it comes or when it came down
26:39
Speaker 1: to if they wanted to, you know, extend unique to
26:43
Speaker 1: a long term bill. You know, you have to as
26:46
Speaker 1: well as good at a pass rusher as he is,
26:49
Speaker 1: he has to be a little more stout in the
26:51
Speaker 1: run game. He's a side of the player, don't get
26:53
Speaker 1: me wrong. And we all have some strengths and weaknesses.
26:56
Speaker 1: I struggled catching the ball. That was one of my weaknesses.
26:59
Speaker 1: You know, he could be better in the run game,
27:01
Speaker 1: and he will do that through his quickness, but you
27:03
Speaker 1: have to have those guys in the interior to make
27:06
Speaker 1: his job a bit easier. Now he can just rat
27:08
Speaker 1: shot with his speed and his quickness. Uh and also
27:12
Speaker 1: even with the guys that they're bringing in the moves,
27:15
Speaker 1: the changes that linebacker, I think Miles is gonna do
27:19
Speaker 1: well on the outside. You'll he'll he'll be able to
27:22
Speaker 1: give himself an opportunity to move back to that position
27:25
Speaker 1: where he could just use his speed, hit his athleticism
27:29
Speaker 1: cover those guys in the slot. He's a better zone
27:32
Speaker 1: defender as opposed to just drop him back in the middle.
27:36
Speaker 1: But more important, you have to have that down down
27:39
Speaker 1: for to protect those guys in the run game. It
27:41
Speaker 1: starts with the down for. So it'll be interesting to
27:44
Speaker 1: see what UH Doug and the defense what they do
27:49
Speaker 1: UH in that in that UH in those positions to
27:52
Speaker 1: make them those guys better and give the team an
27:54
Speaker 1: opportunity to get back to where they were a couple
27:57
Speaker 1: of years ago in the run game. Fred another need
27:59
Speaker 1: for the Shaguar football team is a true front line
28:02
Speaker 1: starting cornerback. Jalen Ramsey's in Los Angeles. A J. Boyer
28:07
Speaker 1: is a mile high in Denver right now. So, hey,
28:10
Speaker 1: guess what. Trey Herndon had a pretty good year last year.
28:13
Speaker 1: D J. Hayden's going to stay inside at Nicola. It
28:15
Speaker 1: sounds like they got somebody in free agency, but it's
28:19
Speaker 1: a competing free agent. Feels like that they could go
28:22
Speaker 1: cornerback pretty high in this draft too. Yeah, it definitely
28:26
Speaker 1: does sound that way. It does sound that way. I mean,
28:29
Speaker 1: I like C. J. Henderson, you know, of course I do,
28:33
Speaker 1: you know, but he's he's long, he's rangy, he's fast.
28:37
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy who's familiar. You know, he's
28:41
Speaker 1: great and press coverage. The defense that they played down
28:45
Speaker 1: the floor some blitzing a lot of man and man
28:47
Speaker 1: shadowing the receiver. He didn't shadow a lot of receivers
28:51
Speaker 1: because he, let me say, he blanketed a lot of receivers.
28:55
Speaker 1: So I think that would be a solid pick. Whether
28:57
Speaker 1: it be they could go defense the fense, you know,
29:01
Speaker 1: because with with those fourth rounds, you're gonna find a receiver,
29:05
Speaker 1: you know, But if you have an opportunity to get
29:07
Speaker 1: a lockdown cornerback, you know, a guy like a Derrick Browner,
29:13
Speaker 1: so in the top ten, you know, go for it.
29:16
Speaker 1: Because offense, if you build your defense to be great,
29:21
Speaker 1: and we don't know what these guys are gonna bring
29:23
Speaker 1: to the table. It's all about potential and possibility. But
29:26
Speaker 1: if you build a defense to be just likes out great,
29:30
Speaker 1: you're gonna give your offense more opportunities to get the
29:33
Speaker 1: ball back to to to try and work their magic
29:36
Speaker 1: and make something happen. And with those opportunities you have,
29:41
Speaker 1: you always have on your side potential for penalties, you know,
29:45
Speaker 1: with deep shots to the receivers, uh and everything else
29:48
Speaker 1: that comes along with it. So I don't think defense
29:52
Speaker 1: defense is bad. Um I did like Jefferson at twenty
29:56
Speaker 1: or receiver at that big but um receive were cornerback
30:01
Speaker 1: for that second pick? I think they go either way
30:05
Speaker 1: right now. Because the offense does have some guys returning,
30:09
Speaker 1: I think cornerback might be more of a necessity. Um,
30:13
Speaker 1: but I mean who knows called well he has, you know,
30:16
Speaker 1: to make those decisions. I believe Doug is gonna get
30:18
Speaker 1: a bit more involved, you know, because he's their roster.
30:21
Speaker 1: You have to have some familiarity with your players and
30:24
Speaker 1: the guys that are coming in. So if these guys
30:27
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30:31
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30:35
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30:39
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30:42
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Speaker 1: Charles Davis really really good when it comes to the
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Speaker 1: each and every year. Here's part of our conversation Charles
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Speaker 1: Davis and what he thinks about the Jaguars early in
37:11
Speaker 1: this draft. And let's go right to your most recent
37:14
Speaker 1: mock draft. You go Tristan Worth's the Iowa tackle at
37:18
Speaker 1: nine and Trebon Digs from Alabama the cornerback at twenty.
37:22
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people go on offensive lineman
37:24
Speaker 1: at number nine lately. Why did you go that direction?
37:27
Speaker 1: Just when that direction with with looking at what they're
37:29
Speaker 1: doing and how they're constituting things. Can they continue to
37:33
Speaker 1: get Leonard four Nett going, can they fortify that offensive
37:37
Speaker 1: line and if Gardner Minshew is going to be there,
37:39
Speaker 1: guy obviously get it protected. I just think value is
37:42
Speaker 1: there as well. And JP you got four big time
37:46
Speaker 1: offensive tackles that I think on in every draft room,
37:50
Speaker 1: they will be the four in whatever order people have them.
37:54
Speaker 1: Right worst will be one of them. And that's right
37:57
Speaker 1: in the midst of an offensive tackle run and by
37:59
Speaker 1: late this mock draft. But I think that there's a
38:02
Speaker 1: possibility that Jack Bars could go in a number of
38:04
Speaker 1: different areas, a number of different directions. Because if somehow
38:09
Speaker 1: that young man from Clemson, Isaiah Simmons, drops to nine,
38:13
Speaker 1: I don't know how you don't hop on him there.
38:16
Speaker 1: Could they surprise us all and grab one of those
38:18
Speaker 1: receivers early? Could they go defensive line? Is Derek Brown
38:23
Speaker 1: still available from Auburn? Is Javon kin Law in their
38:26
Speaker 1: wheelhouse from South Carolina at number nine? And Dave called
38:31
Speaker 1: well as the GM I remember him pulling a fast
38:33
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38:35
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38:40
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fool you all in this draft and come
38:43
Speaker 1: back and get another quarterback and create some competition for
38:45
Speaker 1: the guy we already have. So I think there's a
38:48
Speaker 1: number of ways they could go. But that's how I
38:50
Speaker 1: went into this latest mock draft, and Traybon Digs, I
38:53
Speaker 1: gave you a twenty because I think he can play
38:55
Speaker 1: corner and there's a screaming need for you there. But
38:58
Speaker 1: I know he can play safe if if indeed that
39:01
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and he can swing back there and give
39:03
Speaker 1: you value. So I think I'm getting almost not a
39:06
Speaker 1: two for one, but I'm actually backstopping myself a little
39:10
Speaker 1: bit by if he can't do one, I'm pretty sure
39:12
Speaker 1: he can do the other and be a pretty darn
39:15
Speaker 1: good player doing it. Do you feel like there's gonna
39:17
Speaker 1: be at least early in this draft, maybe ahead of
39:20
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, a lot of movement, a lot of trading around.
39:23
Speaker 1: There's always that threat of phone calls and a lot
39:26
Speaker 1: of times we don't see it happened. But um in
39:29
Speaker 1: front of the Jaguars, how much chaos could there be
39:31
Speaker 1: that slides down to number nine? If there's going to
39:35
Speaker 1: be chaos? Does it started too with Washington who have
39:39
Speaker 1: made a little bit of noise about maybe taking a
39:41
Speaker 1: quarterback there. Remember they traded for Kyle Allen with Carolina
39:46
Speaker 1: to compare with Dwayne Haskins. Does that lesson matt Idea
39:51
Speaker 1: Detroit at three? You would think that they would be
39:54
Speaker 1: open for business. But part of what's it they've got
39:57
Speaker 1: a battle is did in their ownership group tell their
40:00
Speaker 1: GM and their head coach, you've every played meaningful games
40:03
Speaker 1: in December, so so so are you going to get
40:06
Speaker 1: out of that one? Or maybe they look at it
40:10
Speaker 1: and say, someone really wants a quarterback. Come get that
40:13
Speaker 1: quarterback you wanted three and give us a couple of
40:15
Speaker 1: picks and maybe they add to their rosters. So their
40:18
Speaker 1: impossibility at four with the Giants, they get him in
40:22
Speaker 1: the GM, whether it's been at Carolina or his short time,
40:25
Speaker 1: and with the Giants JP, you know, and he's never
40:27
Speaker 1: traded out of his pit, so they're less likely to
40:30
Speaker 1: be that group. So let's just see what happens as
40:33
Speaker 1: we go forward. Charles Davis with us from NFL Network
40:36
Speaker 1: Serious XM Radio. You mentioned earlier in the cornerback position
40:39
Speaker 1: when you mentioned Trayvon Diggs at number twenty in recent mocht.
40:43
Speaker 1: It seems like there's a bunch of other names there.
40:45
Speaker 1: And then obviously the Jaguars have a need there with
40:48
Speaker 1: everything has happened in the last calendar year. Jalen Ramsey
40:50
Speaker 1: out of here, a J Boyer now gone, so there's
40:53
Speaker 1: an open spot at outside cornerback to compete at least
40:57
Speaker 1: if not start right away for somebody coming in pretty high.
41:00
Speaker 1: Of those guys who do you feel like can come
41:03
Speaker 1: in right away and started outside corner, well, I think
41:06
Speaker 1: if you want to really be bold at nine and
41:08
Speaker 1: take C. J. Henderson from Florida, he would be that guy.
41:12
Speaker 1: Because I think Jeff of Couda in Ohio State has
41:14
Speaker 1: probably gone in the first five picks or so it appears.
41:18
Speaker 1: It would be a surprise if he slid down, But
41:20
Speaker 1: if he does somehow that can alter things too. And
41:23
Speaker 1: could you imagine him sitting there at nine. I think
41:25
Speaker 1: that jack boards might very well have to go in
41:27
Speaker 1: that direction. But I would think Henderson would be in
41:30
Speaker 1: play at nine. And then if you come back with twenty,
41:32
Speaker 1: I already talked about Diggs, but you got a Christian
41:35
Speaker 1: Fulton from l s U who would be a big,
41:37
Speaker 1: big time player there and someone that people don't look at.
41:40
Speaker 1: And a J. Terrell from Clemson also would be someone
41:44
Speaker 1: that would be discussed during that time frame, and both
41:46
Speaker 1: of them I think would be on the board and
41:49
Speaker 1: be in play, sitting there in the number twenties spot,
41:51
Speaker 1: along with a guy like Treyvon Diggs that I've already
41:54
Speaker 1: talked about previously outside of guys like Burrow and to
41:59
Speaker 1: Uh and the kid from Oregon, Herbert, who were some
42:03
Speaker 1: maybe second tier guys at quarterback that could be in play,
42:07
Speaker 1: you know, second, third, fourth rounds here. Yeah, I think
42:10
Speaker 1: I think at that point, because I think Jordan's love
42:12
Speaker 1: from Utah State, someone's gonna grab him in the first
42:14
Speaker 1: as well. So let's get beyond that. Jacob from from
42:18
Speaker 1: Jake from because I keep hearing from his bands, we
42:20
Speaker 1: haven't called him Jacob since he was a freshman. Okay,
42:23
Speaker 1: my fault. Jake from from from from Georgia has been
42:27
Speaker 1: nothing but a winner and productive. I think he's more
42:29
Speaker 1: like a third round guy. I think Jalen Hurts is
42:32
Speaker 1: a guy that you better keep an eye on coming
42:34
Speaker 1: out of Alabama and Oklahoma, who I think rose during
42:37
Speaker 1: the preach draft process and was really good during the
42:40
Speaker 1: All Star Game process. And remember this about it. He's
42:43
Speaker 1: a plat out Jim Rat. You know, he played for
42:45
Speaker 1: his dad in high school, so he was that kid
42:48
Speaker 1: that was watching tape as a kid, right and going
42:51
Speaker 1: to all the practices and and and that fit and
42:53
Speaker 1: the practice field was more of his babysitter and he
42:56
Speaker 1: just got gathered by us Moses. We always talked about
42:59
Speaker 1: other quarterback acts at what Let's not lose sight it
43:01
Speaker 1: out with Jalen Hurts. He gets it, understands the game.
43:04
Speaker 1: He would be a guy. The guy with the biggest
43:06
Speaker 1: arm in the draft I think is Jacob Eeson out
43:09
Speaker 1: of the University of Washington, But we don't know what
43:12
Speaker 1: we feel about him in terms of maturity, leadership, those capabilities,
43:17
Speaker 1: because there were question marks about that at Georgia and
43:19
Speaker 1: at Washington. But if you want to play a game
43:22
Speaker 1: of catch Jping, you better bring double padded gloves when
43:25
Speaker 1: you play with him. This guy can absolutely spin it
43:28
Speaker 1: and playing it. So those would be some of the
43:29
Speaker 1: guys that would be next in line that we would
43:32
Speaker 1: be talking about. You know, a Jake Luton from from
43:35
Speaker 1: Oregon State would be more like a third day pick.
43:38
Speaker 1: But those are the types of quarterbacks were talking about.
43:41
Speaker 1: Charles Davis from NFL Network NFL on Fox I guess
43:45
Speaker 1: previously and reports sorry he's going to CBS. We also
43:49
Speaker 1: caught up this week with Charlie Casherley, longtime executive of
43:52
Speaker 1: the National Football League General Manager, former GM of the
43:55
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins and the Houston Texans. Three super Bowls with
44:00
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. Two is an assistant GM one as
44:05
Speaker 1: the top man in charge there. What does Castily think
44:08
Speaker 1: of the Jaguars overall needs and how they relate to
44:10
Speaker 1: this draft. I think they need a couple of things here. Uh,
44:15
Speaker 1: and that's why they've got two first round picks. Okay,
44:17
Speaker 1: one of them is Jail and Ramsey. So I think
44:20
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things here. Offensively, I think i'd
44:23
Speaker 1: like to see him get another receiver. I think that
44:26
Speaker 1: would add to the offense, cause more problems with the defense,
44:29
Speaker 1: loosen it up for for Net to run. You know,
44:31
Speaker 1: A lot depends on, you know, how Minshew Minshew develops
44:34
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. Can he have the consistency over sixteen games? Um?
44:39
Speaker 1: But I think weapons will help him. Defensively, Uh, you know,
44:44
Speaker 1: Campbell was a good player, but but he was kind of,
44:47
Speaker 1: you know, on the downside a little bit there. He
44:49
Speaker 1: was not an outside rusher anymore. He could he could
44:52
Speaker 1: be a decent inside rusher. So a defensive tackle I
44:56
Speaker 1: think would really help in the draft. That would be
44:58
Speaker 1: number one. I think a owner on the outside. I
45:02
Speaker 1: think those are the things that I would look at.
45:04
Speaker 1: They can fill those needs, then I think they can
45:07
Speaker 1: take a jump and be competitive. So I think they'll
45:10
Speaker 1: be competitive. But we're talking about trying to get to
45:12
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think those are the positions they got
45:14
Speaker 1: to check boxes in. And finally from casser Lee, what
45:17
Speaker 1: is the biggest need at nine and which way could
45:19
Speaker 1: the Jaguars go? Well, I think you have to take
45:21
Speaker 1: the best player there. Uh, and and that's number one.
45:24
Speaker 1: But I think they could get lucky and take have
45:26
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle sit there. So this this is where
45:29
Speaker 1: you gotta keep your fingers crossed. Uh. Javin ken Law
45:33
Speaker 1: of SAFA excuse me, South Carolina and Derek Brown of Auburn,
45:36
Speaker 1: I ain't both are outstanding players. Kim Law might have
45:39
Speaker 1: a little bit more flexibility position wise across the front,
45:42
Speaker 1: but I think they both can stop the run. They
45:44
Speaker 1: both can rush the passer from the inside, which is
45:46
Speaker 1: hard to find. I'd be happy with either one if
45:48
Speaker 1: I were them now. Uh. And my last Park draft,
45:52
Speaker 1: the fingers weren't crossed enough. Okay, both were gone, and
45:55
Speaker 1: that can happen now. I don't think you will, but
45:57
Speaker 1: I think it can happen, and so at that point
46:00
Speaker 1: I didn't see another defensive tackle to take. Jeff Amacuda.
46:04
Speaker 1: The top corner was gone. Uh, they could take a
46:06
Speaker 1: wide receiver Jerry Judy. Uh. That may not be their
46:09
Speaker 1: top need, but he would be the best player sitting
46:12
Speaker 1: on the board. That's changed the offense right away there.
46:14
Speaker 1: But I gave him Isaiah Simmons, who doesn't appear on
46:18
Speaker 1: the surface to be a major need outside linebacker. He's
46:22
Speaker 1: not a middle linebacker. Now, he's not a middle linebacker.
46:24
Speaker 1: I don't think or safety, but I think this guy
46:28
Speaker 1: would be their best cover player on nickel. He bade
46:31
Speaker 1: the best safety because that's where he should play it.
46:34
Speaker 1: I think primarily he would play the same position as
46:38
Speaker 1: as Miles Jack. Uh. So that really isn't necessarily a need,
46:41
Speaker 1: even though I think he would be better there. This
46:44
Speaker 1: guy is a top ten pick. So that's kind of
46:46
Speaker 1: one that throws a wrench in there. If you didn't
46:48
Speaker 1: like that, hey, and you couldn't trade up or trade back,
46:52
Speaker 1: I take Judy and go you got you got the
46:54
Speaker 1: best receiver in the draft. Interesting stuff. Charlie casser Lee
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Speaker 1: I can I can honestly say a p this uh
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Speaker 1: so I was a little bit hydrated, and I was
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Speaker 1: to twenty nine. I haven't been to twenty nine since college.
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Speaker 1: I might not recognize you back together. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm working on it now. I went back and started
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Speaker 1: I'm still eating and eating well yeah, oh yeah, Like
52:45
Speaker 1: I saw some of your pictures now, even tweeting out
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Speaker 1: or instagram and out whatever it was that I've been seeing,
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Speaker 1: and uh, you're a mighty fine cut man. Well, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the problem is I have to eat at all. There's
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Speaker 1: nobody else here to eat it so bad. I have
53:02
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53:13
Speaker 1: That's a good idea. Dave Caldwell and Doug Barone spoke
53:17
Speaker 1: today and they did their pre draft luncheon with air
53:21
Speaker 1: quotes there. It was over a video conference today. You're
53:24
Speaker 1: not really gonna learn any anything from this. Have you
53:27
Speaker 1: ever learned anything at a pre draft conference? We learned
53:31
Speaker 1: that they like lunch about it. Yeah, I mean, you're
53:35
Speaker 1: not gonna learn anything there. And uh, you know, I
53:39
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53:50
Speaker 1: to tell his wife who to pick it. You know, so,
53:54
Speaker 1: why is he gonna sta share any information whatsoever in
53:57
Speaker 1: a pre draft luncheon. He's not, you know, so, Uh,
54:01
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big mystery. You know. The Jaguars
54:03
Speaker 1: put it this way. The Jaguars have a lot of
54:06
Speaker 1: needs and there's so many different directions that they can go.
54:10
Speaker 1: I think it's very difficult to forecast or try to
54:13
Speaker 1: pin their pick the one or two guys. Uh and
54:17
Speaker 1: and look and position. There shouldn't be a closed position
54:22
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars draft board. I mean, can you think
54:26
Speaker 1: of a position group JP that you're still great about?
54:28
Speaker 1: Like they're okay, they don't need anybody no, I'm not
54:32
Speaker 1: really no, no, no, no. So so there should not
54:36
Speaker 1: be any position that should be closed for the Jaguars,
54:40
Speaker 1: and including quarterback. And you know, and I know that
54:43
Speaker 1: they talked today and Doug talked about how he wants
54:46
Speaker 1: to get competition for everybody and and also would like
54:51
Speaker 1: that competition for the quarterback. And that's the reality. And
54:55
Speaker 1: I said this before and I'll say it again. You know,
54:58
Speaker 1: you've you've got to look at everybod and you have
55:01
Speaker 1: to evaluate every position, in the quarterback position being the
55:04
Speaker 1: most important. You have to even look at even drafting somebody. Hi,
55:08
Speaker 1: even though, uh, this is gonna be a very difficult season,
55:13
Speaker 1: a very difficult season, I think for young quarterbacks because
55:17
Speaker 1: of the situation with the coronavirus. So it's gonna be
55:20
Speaker 1: hard to get a young quarterback up to speed. It's
55:23
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to get a young football team up
55:25
Speaker 1: to speed. And I think it's a great challenge, a
55:28
Speaker 1: tremendous challenge for the Jaguars football team this year because
55:31
Speaker 1: they're gonna be young in a lot of areas, and
55:33
Speaker 1: they're gonna be young that the most important position, regardless
55:37
Speaker 1: of who the quarterback is at that position, and with
55:41
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator news system. You know, so this
55:44
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be a challenging year for the Jaguars.
55:47
Speaker 1: And we knew it was going to be a challenging
55:48
Speaker 1: year from the get go when they started to make
55:51
Speaker 1: salary cap room and release them some veterans, and so
55:55
Speaker 1: talking about a young team that may not have an
55:58
Speaker 1: all season, that may not have a complete preseason, and
56:03
Speaker 1: I think as every day passes, you know, it's kind
56:05
Speaker 1: of getting harder or harder to envision an NFL season
56:09
Speaker 1: being anywhere close to normal less for sure. Jeff Lagman
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. And that's that's a great point, Logs, because
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Speaker 1: You can get the game plan and the playbook from
56:25
Speaker 1: Jay Gruden down from the cloud and and go through
56:28
Speaker 1: it in your living room and do all this, but
56:30
Speaker 1: at some point you have to get on the field
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Speaker 1: with eleven guys and run through this stuff well. And
56:36
Speaker 1: and when you're talking about you know, a team that's
56:39
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of draft picks, it's gonna have
56:41
Speaker 1: a lot of young players, you know, you're talking about
56:45
Speaker 1: learning a new offense. You're not gonna have the repetitions
56:48
Speaker 1: that you normally would. I don't care about all this
56:51
Speaker 1: virtual stuff, Like virtual stuff is for the birds. I
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Speaker 1: mean it's good and that you're doing something, But Virtua
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Speaker 1: was not the same as it his hands on and
57:03
Speaker 1: you know, even this week you talked and I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you saw the interview with you Want Taylor,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you did, and he talked about getting equipment
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Speaker 1: sent to him from Milo and players getting money to
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Speaker 1: get equipment or getting equipments. I mean, look, I go
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Speaker 1: back on and I think I mentioned this Kap what
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Speaker 1: was it a month and a half ago? A month ago,
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Speaker 1: about how the world of players gonna work out? You know? So,
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Speaker 1: I mean we have players that don't even have workout equipment,
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Speaker 1: some players that are having to go to a neighbor's
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Speaker 1: house in a garage weight room. I mean, look, NFL
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Speaker 1: players with a lot of weights. There's not a lot
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Speaker 1: of at home workout rooms that have enough weight for
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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman in the NFL or for NFL players,
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Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean this is this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be such a challenging year, and so many different aspects
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Speaker 1: and the more veteran team that you have, I think,
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Speaker 1: the more a depth you're gonna be at adjusting to
58:02
Speaker 1: this because veteran players typically have figured it out, They've
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Speaker 1: learned how to be a pro, They've acquired certain pieces
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Speaker 1: of equipment through the years. They're more sedentary, they have
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Speaker 1: a home, they have a house, you know, so being
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Speaker 1: a lot of young players, they don't have any of that.
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Speaker 1: You know, they don't have any of that. I mean
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Speaker 1: a lot of them are still living in an apartment,
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Speaker 1: you know, at college. And some of them are still
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Speaker 1: living an apartment because they just finished their rookie year
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Speaker 1: in the NFL or their second year in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: and they haven't figured out, you know, what they want
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Speaker 1: to do for living arrangements yet. So uh, a tremendous
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Speaker 1: challenge again for the Jaguar because they are young, and
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Speaker 1: because they're gonna even be younger after this draft. All right, lock,
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Speaker 1: final thought, whether you here in ten seconds, what will
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars do with the ninth pick next week, a
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Speaker 1: week from today? Ten seconds? Ten nine eight? I don't know, JP.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Derek Brown, kin Law, Who's what do
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Speaker 1: you want him to do? What do you want him
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Speaker 1: to do. Who do I want him? What do I wanted?
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get Chase Young JP. I want him
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Speaker 1: to get Joe Burrow And you know what, they've got
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Speaker 1: some graphic capital to maybe go up and get one
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Speaker 1: of those guys, Isaiah Simmons. I'd love to see them
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Speaker 1: maybe slide up a little bit to get him. But uh,
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Speaker 1: and look, I haven't been able to watch a lot
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Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks yet. I'll do that between now next week.
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Speaker 1: But uh, big question mark JP. It's a lot of
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Speaker 1: picks that can work there. Take the best one, great stuff.
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Speaker 1: Way to close it out, Logs. We'll talk to you
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Speaker 1: next week on Draft Night. Looking forward to a JP.
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Speaker 1: There is Jeff Lockman. By the way, three cheers our
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Speaker 1: new segment on the show last week, to Letard for
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Speaker 1: that seven thousand meals per week, to the second artist
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Speaker 1: of New Orleans, Tyler Shantley helping out senior citizens in
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Speaker 1: our local area. And Carl Davis defensive lineman as well.
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