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S2 E23: Weapons Factory - A Clone Wars Rewatch · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  All right, so shall we move on to our subject of the day.
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  What is the subject of the day? It's the second part in the
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  Genotian arc we did. Oh my gosh.
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  What is it landing at Point Rain in our last episode.
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  And this episode we're gonna talk about Weapons Factory,
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  which has your favorite character in it.
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  Yay, no I didn't mind her. I didn't mind any of the
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  characters when I rewatched this.
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  For what it's worth, I haven't watched this one in a very long
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  time. Me too, I even when I watched
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  the Genotian arc I almost always skipped this episode for some
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  reason. Yeah, it's not a bad episode.
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  It there's a lot that goes on and the message is kind of
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  interesting, which is I think what the bulk of this episode
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  will be will be us tossing around the lesson, if you will,
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  the morality of it all. Yeah, And the little I had to
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  actually go back because I didn't even see what the fortune
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  cookie, quote, UN quote at the beginning was.
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  Oh, yeah. And then I was like, oh, OK,
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  yeah. Now it all makes sense because
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  it's no gift is more precious than trust.
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  So the whole episode focuses on that in some ways that are, to
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  me, deeply irritating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
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  And from like many angles, but in a, in a way that it's not me
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  bitching, it's like it's, it's definitely, I think it's meant
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  to be that way. It's meant to be provoking.
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  I I think so too, yeah. It's obviously in a 2025 minute
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  episode. They've got to be a little blunt
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  with it. They got to be right out with
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  it. You know, the stark contrast
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  between Luminara and Anakin and then Baris and Ahsoka.
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  And I don't mind Barris in these early episodes.
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  I think I grew to dislike her more after.
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  It's kind of those hindsight things where, you know what she
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  ends up doing. So you hate her.
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  You know, before you know what she's, you know, you go back and
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  watch it. And it's one of those things
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  like I just ironically enough, the issue of trust, it comes
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  back to bite a soak in the ass in the end.
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  But that's not what we're talking about.
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  It's not why we're here today. At the same time, they kind of
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  imply that like Luminara is this very stalwart Jedi and her
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  Padawan turns to the dark side, whereas Anakin is like Bree,
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  loosey goosey with his apprentice.
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  And she is one of the most steadfast, I would say, in the
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  Force, not necessarily as a Jedi, but she has a strong
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  conviction in the light. Ferrite because yeah, that's an
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  interesting point. That is it actually, yeah.
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  So I mean it's nature versus nurture.
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  You don't know you can raise a child, you know, loosely
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  speaking, you can raise a child as properly and as as well as
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  you can and they can still become a bad egg, I guess.
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  But it does make you question the effectiveness of the two
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  Jedi, which is Luminara and Anakin, in their their training
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  methods, the style in which they train.
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  I I don't mind Luminara in this episode either.
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  And I, I do dislike her. She's just not my style of Jedi.
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  Yeah, that's all. She's 1° away from Chiari Mundes
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  as a stick in the mud, but it's. Kind of given that vibe, it's
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  like any teacher in any school. They're all going to vary.
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  You're going to have your favorites, the one you kind of
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  jive with, the one you kind of have a vibe with, the one you
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  learn the most because they're interesting.
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  And then there's people like Luminara who are just like by
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  the book, you know, but but not like Kenobi.
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  Kenobi has personality. There's a flatness.
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  Obi Wan is like, he's like right in between.
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  He has both the Anakin and the Luminara type like and I think
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  that's why he is so effective because he's.
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  Very much. He's just, you said he's got a
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  personality. Well, I hate to even say that
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  because some people might find Obi Wan's personality grading.
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  I don't know who they are, they're not listening to this,
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  that's true. But you know, Luminara might be
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  very effective in teaching many other people.
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  That being said, there neither 1 is in balance I find.
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  Do you also find? That yes, I I do.
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  I agree. I think that by the end of the
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  episode you see the positives and negatives of both kinds of
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  relationships. Correct.
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  Yeah. And so I think it's interesting,
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  I feel like the show itself didn't take a stand so much on
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  what is and isn't the right way. I don't think you can.
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  I mean, we like you brought up with what ends up happening.
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  Luminara passes away, Anakin turns into like the most iconic
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  Sith of all time in my opinion. I concur.
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  Most iconic. He's a fucking icon.
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  That Cape, that helmet, that walk.
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  Come on. But the the padawans are the
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  reverse so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's very strange. It's such a conundrum, But
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  neither one is balanced. Anakin's too into saving people.
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  And Luminar's, she made a good point.
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  You know, I'm ready to let go, but she was very quick to let
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  go. I have a problem with that.
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  She was she with no consideration at all of even
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  trying to find them immediately was just like, oh, they're
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  fading away, let let's go. It's like.
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  What? Yeah, I agree.
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  I completely did. She get down, you know the scene
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  where she gets down on her knees and she like closes her eyes.
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  Is she sensing for Bearis? Is that what she's doing?
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  Is she just taking a moment to herself?
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  I'm not even sure. There are a few moments in this
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  where I wasn't completely certain.
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  Look, there's a moment with Anakin also where Luminar, it's
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  right at the beginning. She asks him what was that
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  hesitation about when the Padawans walk away and he goes
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  it's nothing and turns away. What was?
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  That that's is that. Yeah, I don't know what that
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  it's. Is it like a moment where where
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  he's actually right in his concern?
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  Is it a moment where he's just too afraid to let go?
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  Like they didn't take a stance there either, so I'm not quite
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  sure, but it's open to interpretation I guess is, and
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  that's fine. Well.
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  Luminar does say my padawan will not fail.
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  I mean, she has great trust in Barris, but she's also like, no,
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  yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  And Anakin's the opposite where he's he's kind of acting like he
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  doesn't trust Ahsoka and steps all over her at the beginning of
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  this. And then at the end, Ahsoka says
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  I knew you would come, like I knew you'd save us.
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  And so she really does trust him, even despite all of this
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  conflict that they have. It's very interesting because
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  it's, it isn't like black and white scenario.
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  There's a lot of like Gray area in there.
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  And I like that they do this in a kids show.
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  Cause a lot of times in a kids show, they will say this is
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  right and this is wrong and make it very binary when it comes to,
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  you know, morality or whatever. And there's more wiggle room for
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  this argument in this episode. And I think that's really
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  mature. One of the many reasons why I
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  respect this show so much. I like that they did this
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  overall, it's what makes the episode because the the action
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  is kind of like, well, whatever, they have a thing to do and
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  they're going to go do the thing and they our Jedi in the between
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  and droids, droids all the way up by Poggle droids and we get
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  our we get our old favorite ha ha, ha, ha.
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  Yeah, the tactical. He made an appearance.
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  Tactical Droid. I finally thought of what it
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  was. That's the new Tactical.
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  Droid Yeah. Yeah, well, you know.
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  Yeah, right from the beginning, they immediately established the
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  two different dynamics. You know, they have bears.
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  Who says I have done exactly as you asked, Master?
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  And then they cut to Anakin and Ahsoka, and Anakin keeps
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  interrupting Ahsoka. And it made me so angry.
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  It's so disrespectful. If someone does that in real
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  life I get so irritated me. Too.
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  It's total disrespect. It undermines her authority with
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  the soldiers as well. Why would Anakin choose to do
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  this? Why would he make it harder for
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  his men to trust Ahsoka? Because.
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  That's crazy because they grow to trust her so much.
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  I know took a natural course whether he had an influence or
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  not. So that just shows you the trust
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  they had in Ahsoka and how good Ahsoka ended up being in the
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  end. You know, separate from Anakin.
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  Yeah, it's super irritating. And I would have just knocked
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  him one. I mean, not as a Padawan.
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  But yeah, yeah. But even like, their dynamic is
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  so childish. And this, it was making me so
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  angry because even Anakin is very childish in the way that
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  they argue where he's like, oh, I never actually said that.
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  It's like, yeah, but all your actions said that you don't
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  trust her. And she goes, no, no, it's fine.
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  I totally understand. It's like, could we stop with
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  this passive, impressive, childish conversation?
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  If there was ever a time for Luminar to say that it was, then
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  yeah. Seriously.
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  I mean, I love. She saves it for Obi Wan.
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  I love that Ahsoka has the nerve to speak up for herself but the
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  way it's done? Like they don't speak to each
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  other with respect at all and I find that frustrating just as
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  much as I find Barris bowing and saying I am padawan Barris and I
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  am here to serve. Like I hate that dynamic also.
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  It's not balanced. None of us too far on either
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  ends of the spectrum of where everyone should be.
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  In my opinion. This is just an opinion.
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  I totally agree with you. That's why we have a podcast,
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  you know? Very true.
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  It's just, I don't know, it's exhausting.
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  It's a little exhausting. It's just a little exhausting.
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  Yeah, I'm glad that that dynamic doesn't persist like through the
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  whole season. It's kind of.
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  Yeah, very true. It's just sprinkled in here and
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  there, but for the most part, Anakin and Ahsoka are very much
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  a good team. If it had permeated their
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  relationship all the time, I don't know if I could have
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  tolerated it, honestly. Nope.
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  They had to mature. Yeah, they, someone had to.
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  And it turned out to be more balanced in the way that Ahsoka
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  would run to Anakin's aid at the same time that Anakin would run
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  to Ahsoka, you know, literally and figuratively.
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  There's always that episode where Ahsoka is on that her and
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  a bunch of other. Are they all younglings or
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  Padawans or. And they get like, there's
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  little baby Chewy and there's, you know, yes, they're haunted
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  by the, the what do they call those, those snake lizard
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  looking? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  The the trend oceans yes. Trend Oceans Where was I going
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  with Boss Bosk? I was thinking Bosk is one of
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  them. Oh, is that it, Bosk?
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  OK, Yeah. Wow.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you.
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  OK, so it wasn't a brain. No, no, you're right.
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  That was all Anakin's teaching that helped her stay alive.
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  And we find out later on in more obvious ways, like she survived
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  Order 66 directly resulting from Anakin, which is so it's
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  beautiful and it's fucked up and I'm here for it.
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  But I guess we got Barris's story in the end.
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  You know, we did get her story in the Tales of the Tales of the
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  Sith. Or Tales of the Empire.
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  Was it Tales of the Empire? I don't.
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  Even know I kind of get them yeah, I get them mixed up in my
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  head now cuz yeah, they're, they tell a lot of stories yeah, in
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  short bites. So but yeah, I I guess it's cool
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  that we see her finish her story at least and wrap it up.
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  To be honest, I also don't watch Ahsoka's arc at the end where
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  she leaves the order, you know, the Jedi Order because it's so
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  depressing, too painful. So I kind of don't have as much
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  memory of why Barris did what she did.
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  Well, she hated the order. She thought we were wrong.
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  We listen to me. Listen to me.
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  That was actually I said we, I. Mean.
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  As if I'm one of them. Bitch.
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  OK, ours to our team. Our.
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  Team, you know, if you were good, some people really like to
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  fantasize about being in the Empire and I, I think you and I
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  would really deep down like to be Jedi.
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  So it's fine. Yeah, I think, OK, listen, it's
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  just we it stays. So she thought we were wrong and
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  she was just becoming as jaded about things as some other
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  people were in the order. But you know, yeah, went about
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  it all sorts of wrong. It's sad too, because in these
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  episodes, because there's this one and there's another one, the
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  Brain Invaders one with Ahsoka. And the partnership that they
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  have is actually kind of cool because yeah, you know, we don't
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  often see Padawans working together in Clone Wars.
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  And I have to say too, in media, a lot of times when it's 2 girls
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  working together, it's chatty and they fight and I find that
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  so boring because it's not true. It's not true.
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  But that's why I love this, because they come together and
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  though there are moments where Asoka is like, Are you sure you
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  know what you're doing and Are you sure we're going the right
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  way, they're really more equals. And after the way Anakin's been
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  treating her, I think it's kind of what she needed to be equal
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  with somebody. And and she makes the selfless
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  decision of we can still complete the mission and we
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  would probably die in the process.
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  But that's what they both as children, as Padawans, decide to
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  do. I want to talk about this.
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  Yeah, I think it's really, and it's also so well done.
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  Like the way that sequence unfolds actually gives me
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  goosebumps. It was really beautifully done.
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  I think they're very young to be very sure about just going ahead
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  and doing it. They are devoted to this.
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  I know kind of shows how much the Jedi brainwashed people.
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  You could think of it two ways as like selfless, or maybe
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  they're too young for this, but I.
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  Do wonder if they're not old enough to think through certain
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  things and they're like, you know what?
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  This is what we were made to do. This is our path.
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  This is what we're meant to do. There's no other way out.
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  Let's do it. And I commend them for it.
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  It's crazy how they just are like, you know what, we can do
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  it. We're going to do it.
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  The end. OK, That happened real fast.
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  I haven't, like I said, I haven't seen this in a while.
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  And I can't believe how fast they just came to that decision.
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  I'm just like, I would have sat there for a minute.
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  I'd have just given it another 30, maybe 45 seconds.
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  But you know, they had that, that there was the time thing
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  like the bombs are going to go off and but no, no, no, no.
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  And all this stuff. So they had to do something.
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  So I commend them for it. And it was beautiful, like you
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  said, because the lighting is the lighting in the whole scene,
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  all the scene. And, like, the way she just
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  tells Anakin we're not going to make it and the way he's, like,
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  shouting her name and they just do it anyway.
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  And then the concussions and the explosions that blast out and,
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  like, force the clothes back. Yeah.
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  That was so well done and. Kevin Kiner's music.
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  Is. So good, especially in that
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  moment. It's so good.
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  If you ever just sit around and think like if this had none of
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  the music, it would be half as good.
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  Seriously. Kevin Kinder's music is so good
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  for all this. Yes, yeah.
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  He really is talented. There was another show I was
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  watching and I kept seeing like, Kevin Kiner is like a producer.
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  I think I was like, what? And I looked it up and he had
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  done all the music for this show that I've been watching, and I
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  think he was a producer and I was like, well, that explains
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  why this music is so fucking good.
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  He's so talented. We should do an episode about
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  him 'cause. He's we were gonna, we said we
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  were going to Yeah, we. Need to make that happen and we
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  did see him in person that and we did we.
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  Did I forgot about that? Oh my God, you're right, I
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  forgot. Yeah, his music, especially in
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  that moment, I thought it really like made me pause and like kind
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  of gave me chills watching that sequence because again, like, I
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  hadn't watched it in such a long time, but I really appreciated
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  feeling a lot in just such a short period of time.
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  That's the other thing, 20 minutes episodes and it will
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  bring you to tears in those 20 minutes.
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  It's really crazy and it should be appreciated because we don't
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  get stuff like this anymore. Yeah, yeah.
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  The way they build the story and it's sometimes, you know,
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  especially the conflict between Anakin and Ahsoka and how
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  Luminara is so different. It's so it's kind of
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  heavy-handed, but it. Really works, yeah.
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  But they get. Done what they need to get done
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  in the story. Yes.
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  And as they build into this, like, major Crux, it's like, oh,
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  OK, This is why That's that heavy handedness is so
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  important. Because even despite all that,
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  they're so selfless. They make this decision, which
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  then impacts Luminara and Anakin in totally different ways.
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  But the Padawans, like Ahsoka remains totally confident that
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  Anakin will look for them embarrassed.
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  It's just like we're going to suffocate in here, right?
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  Oh shit, yeah. And soak is like, well, don't
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  worry about starving, we'll run out of air before that.
• 21:11
  And I'm just like, that's the, that's the spirit of soak.
• 21:14
  Yeah, exactly. Don't make yourselves laugh,
• 21:16
  you'll use the air up twice as quick.
• 21:19
  And she's smart to use Anakin's knowledge and tricks to get a
• 21:23
  signal out to him, kind of like Morse code.
• 21:26
  It is brilliant. You're not dead until you're
• 21:28
  dead, so you might as well try anything.
• 21:30
  Yeah. So just sit there.
• 21:32
  It's amazing how fast they found them.
• 21:36
  Well, did you notice when Anakin and Luminara bring the the piece
• 21:41
  of metal up, it's very reminiscent, at least it was to
• 21:45
  me of the scene in Rebels where Darth Vader lifts the piece of
• 21:50
  metal up off of him when Ezra is like with him and and Ahsoka is
• 21:54
  about to battle or Ahsoka is coming And it's all in that
• 21:57
  moment. And I think Ezra knocks it on
• 22:01
  him and he does the thing where he like, lifts it up and you can
• 22:04
  see his gloved hand. And that was kind of a parallel
• 22:10
  in there. And just like.
• 22:11
  Oh shit, here we go with the parallels.
• 22:13
  But I I just remember that because it's a really cool scene
• 22:16
  and I remember Deanna put it in my birthday.
• 22:19
  She she put it in like in my birthday sequence when we met,
• 22:25
  everybody made the, the patrons made the.
• 22:26
  Video Oh, that's great. Yeah, I remember I was like,
• 22:30
  that's a great scene. I love it.
• 22:31
  I just want to talk about how creepy that cave tunnel is that
• 22:36
  a SO can barrister in. I love that though.
• 22:39
  Oh my God, it's the first time I was like creeped out watching
• 22:41
  that show and it was so good. It was, and I was thinking of
• 22:45
  you and what you said in the last episode about the elements
• 22:47
  of horror and, and you know, just the creepy vibes and this
• 22:53
  is a very unique species that they're dealing with.
• 22:59
  And if it had been me and the hand fell like on Barris, and it
• 23:03
  would have, I'd have screamed, woke the whole hive up, it would
• 23:07
  have been over. I can't with bugs.
• 23:11
  I can't with bugs. No, I couldn't have been on this
• 23:14
  planet without freaking out. Barris is just like Ahsoka.
• 23:20
  Ahsoka, how can you be so calm? This is why she's a Jedi and I'm
• 23:24
  not. Yeah, I'd be vomiting on myself
• 23:27
  as. Well, yeah.
• 23:30
  I know that sequence is so good. Looks so good, but then like
• 23:36
  they're walking and they go through the tunnel and then it
• 23:38
  zooms in on the eye of the bug and he's like awake.
• 23:40
  It's a total like like horror. Jump scare Spooky.
• 23:44
  Spooky. Film, yes, you know it is.
• 23:47
  It's really great. I think the whole sequence is
• 23:49
  really well done. The first time I watched it I
• 23:52
  remember thinking, oh, they're doing like some alien creepy
• 23:56
  shit where you gotta crawl under the sleeping enemy and it could
• 24:01
  just wake up and devour you and then they they want up it in the
• 24:05
  next episode because then they go down into the tunnels.
• 24:09
  I can't wait for the the next episode.
• 24:13
  I don't, but did did you notice like they fly out of those
• 24:16
  columns that are those rocky columns that are out there.
• 24:19
  I never noticed, like I never memory banked that.
• 24:22
  Me. Either live in those things.
• 24:24
  That's really cool. I mean, for world building and
• 24:28
  creature creation, it's kind of cool.
• 24:30
  It's differently. Because they they seem to live
• 24:33
  underground. They have battle stations, they
• 24:35
  have temples on the surface, but then they have these catacombs
• 24:38
  down underneath and it's kind of like an anthill, I guess, in a
• 24:42
  way. I know I don't.
• 24:45
  I don't like the parallels. Gives gives me the heebie
• 24:48
  jeebies. I try not to think of them as
• 24:50
  bugs, I just think of them as aliens and it like creeps me out
• 24:53
  a lot less. But.
• 24:54
  Well, the one had like, straight up human teeth.
• 24:57
  He smiles when they're like taking the bombs or something.
• 25:00
  And he has, yeah, I'm like, they have actual human teeth.
• 25:03
  What is this? I love Poggle though, I like the
• 25:07
  noises that he makes. He has a walking stick.
• 25:11
  He's a badass. I.
• 25:12
  Know. I know he.
• 25:13
  Has a whole fucking cane. Him and Yoda could go at it with
• 25:16
  their canes. It almost to me the cane kind of
• 25:21
  looks like a tooth of like something larger.
• 25:25
  I don't know if it is, but. It looks like it could be a wing
• 25:28
  piece like a like a a bone from one of their wings.
• 25:33
  Am I? Yeah, it feels.
• 25:34
  It does feel more like a bone right than like a.
• 25:37
  Stick. It does look like one, yeah.
• 25:39
  Like a tooth, a bone, a Tusk, a something.
• 25:41
  Something which I kind of love again, whoever designs this
• 25:45
  stuff and decides to throw something like that in there.
• 25:48
  I just it's what's missing from so many pieces of animation.
• 25:53
  You know the it's true forethought that's put in.
• 25:56
  I'm kind of with Anakin and Ahsoka on this.
• 25:59
  I'm biased though. Yeah, I feel like both teams
• 26:03
  make good points. Anakin and Ahsoka give off the
• 26:06
  impression of being unprofessional.
• 26:10
  I was just thinking, Barris and Luminara are very professional,
• 26:16
  very mature about how they present themselves at all times.
• 26:22
  You know, Luminara has that little twinkle in her eye, that
• 26:25
  little that you know, the smirk, the kind of like she's amused by
• 26:29
  Anakin. Well there is that book in Star
• 26:31
  Wars, I don't know if it's Canon, something of The
• 26:35
  Apprentice. It's about Obi Wan and Anakin
• 26:38
  and they meet up with well they go to save Barris.
• 26:40
  I read it so long ago I can't even remember.
• 26:42
  It's not that great, but I. Don't know of this one like.
• 26:45
  There's that going on, and that was pre, that was in and around
• 26:49
  Attack of the Clones. OK.
• 26:52
  So they kind of, I think it's the first time that Anakin ever
• 26:54
  met Barris. So I, I feel like there's a
• 26:58
  little bit of amusement there on Luminara's part.
• 27:00
  She knows Anakin, she knows of Anakin.
• 27:03
  I'm sure she's listened to Obi Wan vent about Anakin.
• 27:09
  I mean, I don't know, who knows that's a head cannon, but
• 27:12
  they're very professional. Ahsoka and Anakin, for our
• 27:17
  viewing pleasure, are kind of like comrades, like nudge,
• 27:20
  nudge, you know, look at this guy over here, you know, and
• 27:25
  it's a little less professional. They still get the job done.
• 27:28
  Yeah, it's interesting because they, I think for the most part
• 27:31
  it works for them, but then when Anakin tries to have some
• 27:34
  authority, Ahsoka gives them a lot of shit for it, and
• 27:38
  sometimes she's more authoritative than he is.
• 27:41
  And it's all very interesting considering how they turn out,
• 27:46
  you know, which of course, we didn't know what was gonna
• 27:49
  happen to Ahsoka. And she has one of the great
• 27:52
  arcs, you know, the greatest maturing arc that we see in Star
• 27:56
  Wars besides maybe Luke. Because we definitely see him
• 28:00
  change quite a lot from where he begins in A New Hope to where he
• 28:03
  ends up. I'm going to stay in Return of
• 28:05
  the Jedi. Yes.
• 28:07
  Beyond that, I don't like to think about it, but.
• 28:10
  Correct. Ahsoka has this great snippy
• 28:13
  beginning and becomes one of the most mature, grounded characters
• 28:17
  in all of Star Wars so. Very I, I love her arc, I really
• 28:22
  do. I have a question for you
• 28:23
  though. OK.
• 28:25
  So Ahsoka and Barris come out and the look on Ahsoka's face,
• 28:29
  she's like blinking slowly and like Anakin comes into the light
• 28:32
  and she's so relieved. And I never doubted you once,
• 28:35
  Pat, you know that Anakin says to her, doesn't he say that to
• 28:40
  her in the Ahsoka series? Doesn't he say something to that
• 28:44
  effect? Or am I making that up?
• 28:45
  Oh my gosh, I don't know. I never doubted you.
• 28:49
  I think he says it because I got a flash of that in me and I'm
• 28:53
  like, Oh my God. I don't know if they like pulled
• 28:55
  it from that or if it's just something that Anakin just
• 28:57
  exudes like he always trusted Ahsoka.
• 29:02
  As episodes go. Yeah.
• 29:05
  How would you rate this one? Like what would you?
• 29:07
  How would you rate it? Like from one to 1010 being the
• 29:10
  best one being not so great? I think it's a solid 6.
• 29:15
  It's like in the in the four to six range.
• 29:18
  Yeah, because it's really well done, but it's also kind of
• 29:21
  there's stuff that's better. That's where I'm at.
• 29:24
  It's visually appealing, the music is great, the lesson is
• 29:28
  intertwined, but there's better episodes so.
• 29:31
  Yeah. And also like, like compared to
• 29:34
  the one that's coming up next. Oh well, that's what I'm trying
• 29:37
  not to do. Well like the next one is so
• 29:39
  good. I think that's why I skip
• 29:41
  weapons factory because you go from landing to point landing at
• 29:45
  point rain to what is this legacy of terror?
• 29:48
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, like.
• 29:50
  Two of my favorite episodes. So yeah, Weapons Factory gets
• 29:53
  skipped like all the time because I just want to get to
• 29:56
  the Obi Wan stuff. What?
• 29:57
  What do you rate it then? I would, I would say like a 7-6
• 30:02
  or seven because I think it is really good.
• 30:04
  But to me, often if Obi Wan's not in it at all.
• 30:10
  A usually thing. I'm likely to skip over it,
• 30:12
  yeah. That's the other thing.
• 30:14
  Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep. Yeah, I'm the same.
• 30:18
  Well, very well. On to the next.
• 30:26
  All right, join us back here for the next episode, which we get
• 30:30
  to talk about all the things with Legacy of Terror.
• 30:34
  We're going underground with a sassy Obi Wan.
• 30:38
  I can't wait. He's so pretty in this I.
• 30:40
  Can't wait. Oh, it's so good, It's so good.
• 30:43
  Actually, our logo, our Obi Wan drawing is from this episode.
• 30:49
  The legacy of. Your that's right.
• 30:52
  That's awesome. I can't wait.
• 30:54
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• 30:57
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