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58 - Taylor Swift, Below Deck Med, Big Brother, RHOSLC, RHUGT, RHOC, RHONY, and 90 Day Fiance · Rather Be Rotting

0:09
SPEAKER_03: Welcome to rather be running.
0:12
SPEAKER_03: We should really be doing something more productive.
0:15
SPEAKER_03: Let's take all things reality, TV, and pop culture chaos.
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SPEAKER_03: Because no matter what's going on in life, we would always rather be running.
0:28
SPEAKER_01: Hello.
0:30
SPEAKER_02: Hi.
0:31
SPEAKER_01: How's it going?
0:33
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's going pretty good.
0:35
SPEAKER_01: How are you?
0:35
SPEAKER_01: You're just loving Taylor's new music?
0:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, I can't say that that's the case.
0:43
SPEAKER_02: Do you feel that down?
0:45
SPEAKER_02: Do I feel that down?
0:47
SPEAKER_01: I do.
0:48
SPEAKER_01: Even though you said you were keeping your expectations low.
0:52
SPEAKER_02: And I did um attempt to keep them low.
0:57
SPEAKER_02: Fortunately, I was still disappointed.
1:01
SPEAKER_01: Cleveland is so embarrassing for her soul.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: It's all embarrassing for her soul.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: Girl, like you can stop sending messages to the haters.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: You've been sending messages to the haters for over a decade.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: Like the people that are gonna listen to this song are not your the audience for that.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: It just it's just a bummer because I'm not angry.
1:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm just disappointed.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: Again.
1:27
SPEAKER_02: Again, yeah, again.
1:29
SPEAKER_01: I thought Patient Zero was very um whatever.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: Like I wasn't atrocious like Cleveland, but it wasn't it didn't do anything for me, it didn't make me feel anything.
1:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean the opening did with the violins.
1:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love the violins, I was so excited, and then it was just like not a nothing.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: Pretty much, yeah.
1:50
SPEAKER_02: Pretty much, and then a nothing.
1:52
SPEAKER_02: And so I just, you know, she doesn't have a lot to say, I think.
1:59
SPEAKER_02: And so she can take a break from saying things.
2:03
SPEAKER_02: I wish she understood it was okay to to take a break from saying things, or go back into fiction.
2:10
SPEAKER_01: Like I saw something online that was like she needs to go back into the woods for the love of God, could just do something else, honestly.
2:17
SPEAKER_01: And like Babylon, like I I've told you, I do really like that one.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: That one's really nice.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: And what's the third?
2:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh, pink clouding.
2:24
SPEAKER_01: That one's fine too.
2:25
SPEAKER_01: Inoffensive.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: I I don't think I could I don't agree.
2:30
SPEAKER_02: Babylon's fine, like at least there's maybe some thought put behind that song.
2:35
SPEAKER_02: The problem with pink clouding is here's the problem with all of it, honestly, except maybe patient zero, but like kind of is it's not only that the writing is bad, the production is also bad.
2:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, pink clouding sounds like something I could craft on garage band.
2:53
SPEAKER_02: There's no interest, there's nothing interesting sonically in any of those songs.
2:59
SPEAKER_02: It feels very elementary, it feels how can we go from midnights and just the complexity of the even the production to this crap?
3:10
SPEAKER_02: And say what you will, I am begging her on my hands and knees if you're gonna keep writing songs.
3:16
SPEAKER_02: Please go back to Jack and Erin.
3:19
SPEAKER_02: Please.
3:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't think Shellback and Max Martin are the answer.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: They are good if if Taylor brings them something good, but like they are not enough if she doesn't have enough.
3:32
SPEAKER_01: Does that make sense?
3:33
SPEAKER_01: Like when she brought them blank space, that was like a different story.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:38
SPEAKER_01: Like they can sh make like a piece of gold like shiny, you know, clean it up and like make it perfect and ready to go, but they can't turn a piece of coal into a diamond.
3:48
SPEAKER_01: They can't.
3:49
SPEAKER_01: And we probably sound a little bit um, I don't know, nitpicky, or like we'll need we can never be happy because like when tortupoets came out, we didn't like that either.
4:00
SPEAKER_01: But like even that, and maybe in the rear view, there's more to like, especially when you compare it.
4:05
SPEAKER_01: But like, because torture poets up to that time was I thought her weakest link, just because it was just like word vomit.
4:12
SPEAKER_01: And in this case, there's not enough words.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you one thing.
4:16
SPEAKER_02: I've never loved torture poets more.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: I know, and maybe that's the goal is she's just gonna keep releasing shittier and shittier, and like her next album is gonna be shittier than life of a showgirl, and she's gonna be like father figure.
4:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that freaking um the bridge, the bridge, the bridge really hit on that one.
4:34
SPEAKER_01: It did.
4:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, she's the queen of bridges, and the ones on this song or this album are she talks through one of them, like on patient zero.
4:44
SPEAKER_02: She just like speaks, speaks, ladies and gentlemen.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: I have an announcement.
4:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
4:51
SPEAKER_01: How about just shut up?
4:52
SPEAKER_01: Just yeah, we don't need you to make an announcement.
4:54
SPEAKER_01: You married the guy, like that's enough.
4:58
SPEAKER_02: The haters aren't we don't care anymore.
5:00
SPEAKER_02: The haters don't care anymore.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: The haters just yeah, just like let us appreciate what we had, like, stop tarnishing your legacy.
5:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't understand it, and there's a lot of people on TikTok, there's a lot of discourse that we just don't get it.
5:18
SPEAKER_02: This is parody, it's you're missing the point.
5:21
SPEAKER_02: She's doing this on purpose.
5:22
SPEAKER_02: Genuinely, I don't think it's that deep.
5:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't think she is, and I genuinely don't care.
5:27
SPEAKER_01: It's not fun to listen to.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: No, and that's like the point.
5:31
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and artists, their their purpose is to like say something, but as listeners, we want to just enjoy what we're listening to.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: Like that's our like her goal and our goals are different, unfortunately.
5:43
SPEAKER_01: So parody, whatever the fuck she's doing, it it's not and it's I'm not enjoying it, and so I'm not gonna listen to it, and we don't have to, and she doesn't care, and I guess that's all there is to it.
5:55
SPEAKER_02: It's just disappointing because we've spent so much time enjoying what she's given us that it's it's it's just like a little sad.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: But like whatever she's doing right now does not take away how brilliant, you know, the Great War is, or Ivy, or like you know, literally any of those little songs that get buried, like even those ones.
6:15
SPEAKER_01: It's like you listen to it and it's like, oh my god, like this is so fucking good.
6:19
SPEAKER_02: And unfortunately, I feel like that makes what she's doing now obviously like a lot worse.
6:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I see what you mean, but I just think that like luckily we had she has such a huge catalog, and that's a gift, and I will never not be grateful to her for that.
6:33
SPEAKER_02: It also bothers me that we're all sitting here like wondering what she's like wondering if this is if she actually thinks this is good or not.
6:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, obviously she wouldn't put it out if she didn't think it was good, Lil.
6:46
SPEAKER_02: But like I mentioned, that's not what people are trying to convince themselves of.
6:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, she sure put a lot of effort into this award-winning cinematographer created music video.
6:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: With Colin Farrell and Dakota Johnson, that we will be seeing in just a few hours.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: By the time this podcast drops, it will be out.
7:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure the music video is good.
7:06
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: So there's that.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: And she's gonna give a speech tonight at the VMAs.
7:11
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get to, you know, dissect her outfit.
7:15
SPEAKER_02: I heard whatever award she's getting, her people like demanded it be created for her to receive.
7:25
SPEAKER_01: A hundred percent.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: And basically she admitted that because did you see the Instagram video she posted this morning?
7:31
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
7:32
SPEAKER_01: Where she said, this video is like too good to just drop, like this video needs to be on TV.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: So, like, when are the VMAs?
7:39
SPEAKER_01: But do you think I mean she might win awards for like for fate of Ophelia and whatnot?
7:44
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
7:45
SPEAKER_01: Where do we go from here?
7:47
SPEAKER_01: For the first time in my life of knowing Taylor, I don't care what she does next.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm happy, I'm content with what she's given me, and I'm still listening to her catalog more than anything else.
8:00
SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
8:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm surprised that because I think that's the overwhelming consensus amongst Swifties.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm surprised that that doesn't matter to her.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, now she's like gonna start a family and shit.
8:15
SPEAKER_01: So I think that that's where her focus is.
8:18
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: And when she starts writing about having a kid, you can bet your bottom dollar.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm out.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: I know that you'll probably like appreciate it more now that you have a kid, couldn't I?
8:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm hoping she writes a kid's album that I can blast in the car.
8:30
SPEAKER_01: We already do play the Taylor Swift uh lullaby version for your kid.
8:35
SPEAKER_02: I know.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: Imagine how great it would be if she just wrote a whole album for him.
8:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, maybe she will.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I do wish he would never grow up, never grow up to stay this little.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, he can't.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so that's that.
8:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, what else is going on in the world?
8:54
SPEAKER_01: Well, Big Brother's almost over.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: You want to start there?
8:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
9:00
SPEAKER_01: Taylor won something.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: Good for her.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: A little too late, though, if you ask me.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I still don't think it's enough, but like it makes it a little bit easier to stomach that she's in the final three.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess so.
9:11
SPEAKER_01: Um Drew, I mean, he's like he's a competitor.
9:15
SPEAKER_02: I just like don't know if people will give it to him because they think he's such a weasel.
9:19
SPEAKER_01: If it were him and Taylor, if it's him and Taylor, he will win.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm hoping, obviously, that Devins wins.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: What if if if it's Devins versus Drew?
9:31
SPEAKER_02: It's gotta be Devins, without a doubt.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: That's my thought.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: Do you think that Drew is aware of that?
9:39
SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know.
9:43
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, he doesn't seem to be like a think uh think that far ahead kind of guy.
9:47
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't he?
9:47
SPEAKER_01: Don't you get that vibe?
9:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, even when he was voting to evict um Melody, no, I forget who he he voted to evict somebody, and he just was like sitting was no, that's he did that in front of everybody.
10:00
SPEAKER_01: This was one that was he was like the deciding vote, and he went into the diary room and he's like, I vote to evict uh and he said it like with a smile, whoever it was.
10:08
SPEAKER_01: He was literally just deciding in that moment.
10:10
SPEAKER_01: He's just like flying by the seat of his pants.
10:12
SPEAKER_01: It kind of feels like that, yeah.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: And it shows because he's never not been loyal to the icons, and that shows that he's not thinking ahead.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: Like, if he's just gonna like be their minion the whole time and not make any moves for himself, every move he's made has benefited the icons.
10:26
SPEAKER_02: That is true.
10:28
SPEAKER_01: So, go Devons.
10:30
SPEAKER_01: What if Taylor wins?
10:30
SPEAKER_01: How what are we gonna do?
10:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'll be furious.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: I admired her gameplay at times, like she is gaming, she is strategizing.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: She does, she just doesn't win enough.
10:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't think she's really doing anything.
10:47
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, RIP to D.
10:50
SPEAKER_02: It had to happen.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: She played really hard, she got really far, way farther than she should have.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: 100%.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: And now we have do we have an episode?
11:01
SPEAKER_01: We have an episode tonight.
11:02
SPEAKER_01: Do we have one Wednesday also in addition to Thursday?
11:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, if we do, that will really annoy me.
11:08
SPEAKER_01: If we do, it'll probably be one of those like let's sit at the table and drink and like recap everything.
11:13
SPEAKER_01: I think that's probably what is tonight.
11:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
11:16
SPEAKER_02: Hey, we could skip that.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: I'll just we should check to make sure that's the case, but I mean I'll watch like the first five minutes, of course.
11:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, anyway.
11:27
SPEAKER_01: It was a great season.
11:28
SPEAKER_01: Thanks for a great season, big brother.
11:29
SPEAKER_01: I enjoyed it.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: Even though when we started off, I was like, I don't think I'll be able to watch this because it's so kooky.
11:35
SPEAKER_01: Luckily, like this cast helped me be able to look past that enough.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: Totally.
11:41
SPEAKER_01: So good casting.
11:42
SPEAKER_01: Good on you.
11:44
SPEAKER_01: Shall we move on to the Bravo Sphere?
11:47
SPEAKER_01: Death.
11:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Ultimate Girls Trip.
11:52
SPEAKER_01: I'm having a blast.
11:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't know about you.
11:55
SPEAKER_01: I am having a blast hating on Luann.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: She is so fun to watch.
12:00
SPEAKER_01: Everything she does delights me.
12:02
SPEAKER_02: Insufferable.
12:04
SPEAKER_01: No, I love it.
12:06
SPEAKER_01: And I know normally when housewives like lean too far into their viral moments, it can get annoying, but for some reason, I don't know why.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, I can't get enough of like when she looked to camera, that was next level.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: No housewife has done that, and like Vogue to the camera in her fedora.
12:22
SPEAKER_02: Everybody else is super annoyed with it.
12:24
SPEAKER_01: How can they be?
12:26
SPEAKER_01: Like, this is such an amazing character.
12:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
12:30
SPEAKER_02: She just can't stand it, and she's gonna get into it with Portion next week.
12:33
SPEAKER_01: She's just unapologetic.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then she's gonna say, I can't believe how they treated me in my own town.
12:39
SPEAKER_02: That's hilarious.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: Then they they cut to her singing happy birthday to the DJ.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: Happy birthday.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: What baby?
12:53
SPEAKER_02: Somebody baby.
12:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, it's always a baby.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: So we have the lingerie party, and Luann has her fedora and her cigar, and we have an Adriana performance.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm not surprised.
13:08
SPEAKER_02: Do you think that Luann is a better performer or is Adriana a better performer?
13:12
SPEAKER_01: I think the coming in on the shoulders of men was a simpler entrance, but just as showstopping.
13:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:20
SPEAKER_01: And the zipline looked just like janky.
13:25
SPEAKER_01: It did.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: And then we meet Luann's boyfriend.
13:28
SPEAKER_01: They're in bed.
13:29
SPEAKER_01: She's in her negligé in full glam.
13:32
SPEAKER_02: How would you feel if you were Dorinda and you showed up and your friend had their boyfriend in bed like that?
13:39
SPEAKER_01: I would feel fine, I think.
13:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know if that's weird or not, but she was in full glam, so they obviously weren't just boning.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Like she had got up and gotten ready and then gotten back into bed for the shoe.
13:50
SPEAKER_02: I still think it's weird.
13:51
SPEAKER_02: I'd be like, can you just like not be in bed?
13:53
SPEAKER_02: Can the bed be made and you guys be in regular clothes?
13:56
SPEAKER_01: She just looks so good.
13:58
SPEAKER_02: She does.
13:59
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: And Michael's hot.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: You would say that.
14:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you knew that I would.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: Because he's old.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: So then we have our emotional gangster lunch.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: It was a gangster lunch, but ended up being emotional.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I th I thought that was fine to watch.
14:21
SPEAKER_02: You know, like I'm wondering if that restaurant has that table velvet robed off always.
14:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, of course they do.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: Of course they do.
14:29
SPEAKER_01: That's like their claim to fame now.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: With that weird weird ass AI cut out of Dorinda with like her eyes look like cartoon eyes.
14:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:37
SPEAKER_01: That was a little scary.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, if you want to scare someone, put that over their bed.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: Or just Luann.
14:46
SPEAKER_02: What about her?
14:47
SPEAKER_02: If she was over your bed, I'd be scared.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: I would be fucking thrilled out of my mind.
14:51
SPEAKER_01: Like nothing would make me happier than to be woken up by the singing Luann.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: So we find out the ladies don't talk to Sonia, really, which makes me sad.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: Because she won't do anything without a paycheck.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: Which I mean, I guess isn't surprising, but I don't know.
15:08
SPEAKER_01: She's just come so far from who she was.
15:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's unfortunate, but like I feel like Luann has evolved into the peak version of herself.
15:17
SPEAKER_01: And Sonia has just like devolved.
15:19
SPEAKER_02: You don't think I don't think this is the peak version of Luann.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: I think peak version of Luanne was was when she was like, She called me Luanne when it's like Mrs.
15:27
SPEAKER_02: De La Seps.
15:29
SPEAKER_01: But that's the same Luann.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: We are the same person.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: We're not though.
15:36
SPEAKER_01: I guess we're yeah, we're we're pat long gone are the days of costume jewelry and her pokey hair, etiquette books.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh I've loved every version of her.
15:45
SPEAKER_01: I love her.
15:46
SPEAKER_01: I can't get enough.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: I can't say it enough.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: I'll watch her in anything.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: Any other feelings?
15:53
SPEAKER_02: Miami was giving, and I feel like it's even more upsetting now that they're not coming back.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: I feel like they were just doing that to try to like get back on the air.
16:04
SPEAKER_01: I felt like that was just like a desperate push.
16:06
SPEAKER_02: I thought it it made me feel the whole time like, why did this get cancelled?
16:11
SPEAKER_02: There's like a lot here I'd like to be watching.
16:14
SPEAKER_01: I just like was never that passionate about Miami because I only watched one season and it was just like okay.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: Shall we move to perhaps?
16:22
SPEAKER_01: We should not because there was a whole ass Halloween party kicking off.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay, like the call, you don't think the costumes deserve a second?
16:33
SPEAKER_01: Vicky literally dressed up as Taylor fucking Swift.
16:36
SPEAKER_01: That was so unexpected to me.
16:38
SPEAKER_01: That was the craziest thing.
16:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, what how did she decide that?
16:42
SPEAKER_01: Like, can you picture her sitting there being like, I'm gonna be Taylor Swift?
16:45
SPEAKER_01: Do you think she pulled it off?
16:47
SPEAKER_01: Of course, she looked great.
16:50
SPEAKER_02: I think I liked Carol's the best.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh my god, yeah.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because in the previews for the New New York, like a comedian calls for that.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: She really didn't have to do much because she looks so much like him anyway.
17:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think she literally just put the outfit on and drew on facial hair.
17:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Alex McCord.
17:07
SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna mention that we brought her back and she looked incredible.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: Do you think she got veneers?
17:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I don't know.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: I kind of think because she looks really good, and I was like, something is different, and I think maybe it's veneers and like a little bit of lip filler.
17:25
SPEAKER_01: Checking Instagram.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think so.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't think she has lip filler or veneers, honestly, looking at her Instagram.
17:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay, maybe she does, and they're just like really bad.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: They look really big.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I was happy to see her.
17:46
SPEAKER_01: Thrilled to see her.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: I missed her so much.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: Can we get her on something anything?
17:53
SPEAKER_02: That that girl's trip we'll never see.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: And Simon, we're not we didn't even get Simon.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: Who's in Australia?
18:02
SPEAKER_01: Those were the days, man.
18:05
SPEAKER_01: I know.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: Jessel was a heated rivalry guy, which okay.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: Chanel, I literally just wearing a ranger's jersey.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, no, she wasn't, and then she was like getting um getting on Dorinda for being an outfit repeater.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, but you don't get it.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: Like Luann was a pirate because she had to be a pirate.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: Like, it's a thing.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: Don't disrespect your elders.
18:27
SPEAKER_01: She's like too desol is a little too much for me.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: We can get to New York next, but I was gonna say she's rubbing me the wrong way.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, talk about too high on your own supply.
18:37
SPEAKER_02: I feel like the fan support from the last time they were on TV like really went to her head.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: 100%.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: You gotta be careful with that.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: It's like a Heather Gay situation, but she's worse.
18:47
SPEAKER_01: Like she just she's just I can see the performing when she was crapping on Daisy's popcorn ceilings.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: It's like this is a rent-controlled apartment, you idiot.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not cute, like it's not it's not endearing like when you said Tribeca was up and coming anymore.
19:02
SPEAKER_01: No, let's see.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: So, elsewhere in Rony, also Aaron looked really good in her Jessica Rabbit wig.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: I thought she looked really hot.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll give her that.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, back to uh Rony.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: We get a little bit more of Haley's backstory.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it's just like nobody really cares about the John Glossman thing anymore.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry that it scarred her so much, but oh, I thought it was so interesting that that her dad was the one who did Kate's tummy tuck.
19:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was like known information back then.
19:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I didn't know that.
19:38
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I forgot.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: So she must have got she said they broke up when she was 22, so they must have started dating when she was like, was she even 21?
19:47
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: Can't even imagine what that does, and like to a person to like have that kind of fame and um hate.
19:54
SPEAKER_01: Like she said, and she said she only got married to feel safe because she didn't feel safe, and she never would have married him if if she hadn't had all that tabloid scrutiny, and that made me really sad for her.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: I guess I mean if her and her husband have an arrangement that works and she can go be with other women and she's happy with that, then fine, but it just sucks to think this wasn't the life that she would have chosen for herself all because of one stupid decision she made when she was 20.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I certainly wouldn't want to hear my spouse say, I never would have married you if XYZ, but at the same time, nobody is immediately like this.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: Happens.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: You do make choices when you're young that do alter the course of your whole life, and that's you just it happens.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: That's true, you're right.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: You're so wise, Lil.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: I know.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, do you think Carol's book Jumping Back to Number One Because of Love Story?
20:42
SPEAKER_01: Do you think it like gives her a little thrill secretly?
20:44
SPEAKER_02: It has to Yeah, absolutely.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: She can like act like the the love story show is affecting her negatively.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: Do you think she watched it and just is saying she didn't?
20:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean I would.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: How could you not watch it?
20:58
SPEAKER_01: And you could easily just not tell anyone that you watched it.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: I know.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I did love that Jessel filmed with the dermatologist at the center of the controversy.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: So she's still giving slightly.
21:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's more of a compliment to the dermatologist.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for appearing on camera.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Please tell us your prices.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: And we also learned a little bit more about Erica.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: They have a private island called Mosquito Island in the British Virgin Islands, which is an unfortunate name, and we're gonna learn more about that island coming up.
21:28
SPEAKER_02: I have some inside scoop.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, tell one of my co-workers' husband works for Bilt.
21:38
SPEAKER_02: Very close to the CEO.
21:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure we're gonna see them on another season.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: Why?
21:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't know that it was I don't know that both parties would agree to a second season.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, because everyone shit on his island.
21:56
SPEAKER_02: I just don't think he loved the filming of it.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: I just think it didn't ed it wasn't great.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, I guess it's way too soon to like see why he thinks that.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: Because so far it's like he seemed to enjoy p uh filming on pizza night.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: I think we'll see more.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: That's like a good tease.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: You're welcome.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: God damn, is she beautiful?
22:18
SPEAKER_00: I know.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, and and you know, she talks about like needing a surrogate and stuff, and it's like, how nice for you that it's like a drop in the bucket to buy a surrogate to pay for a surrogate.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: That is allegedly gonna be their storyline like all season.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: All right, well, we'll put a pin in that one.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna solve this here today.
22:38
SPEAKER_01: Well, we can move on to the Seder at Daisy's house, which was Daisy hosting this Seder, or was Aaron?
22:44
SPEAKER_01: I got really confused about that.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, me too.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: And then Jessel being two hours late again, just like she's getting she's girl.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: You need to just to calm down.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: She's doing too much, and it's gonna bite her in the ass.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: And then the biggest takeaway from that was the thing from the teases where Aaron said Haley broke up a marriage with eight kids, which to quote Vicky Gungelson felt like low-hanging fruit.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: Wow, don't you think?
23:12
SPEAKER_02: Definitely that's all she knows about her.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: So I like I'm liking some of the ingredients, some of the old ingredients that I didn't like before.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm still not liking.
23:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm invested, I'm entertained.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: I've been entertained all the episodes so far.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: I think having Carol is really helpful because I just so far she's just very watchable to me.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: She always just gives you something to hold on to.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and she's not like serious, but you know, she's just like always doing something interesting.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: But I need to see her apartment.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: Has she taken us inside her apartment yet?
23:45
SPEAKER_00: No, why not?
23:46
SPEAKER_01: I need to see if those stairs are still there.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, the stairs that were just like little um really stressed me out.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: They were like little slats uh in the wall spaced out with no, I'll never forget because all I could think about is how I would just uh that would be the death of me, those stairs.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: You would literally die.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: I would actually perish in that apartment.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: I know, I can't even think about it.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, TBD.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: Do you want to touch on uh Orange County very quickly?
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Vicky needs to stop gaslighting everybody.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: Same same tale.
24:17
SPEAKER_01: Just replay what we said last week.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: I will say seeing Ava 11 is crazy because, like, I watched her be 11 when I watched the episode, and then later that night when I put on the other season that I'm on, she was a newborn.
24:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, how would you feel if Tamra was your grandma?
24:34
SPEAKER_01: Amazing, giving me Gucci purses, and I was shocked to see that Ryan and his wife are still together because in when they were when Ava was first born, he was like miserable, dude.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: He's like, I don't want to be in this relationship.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, I like I can't take it anymore.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm so unhappy.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: And Tamra's like, just try, like, they're going go to counseling.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: So they're like also really surprised to see them still together.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: I hope that they're happy and they're not just like miserable for the kid.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, it seems fine.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: Another funny thing about my parallel timelines, I know I mention this every episode, but it's just like such a funny experience because also in this season, Heather is redoing her apartment, her condos, like that's her only storyline.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: And then in the season I'm watching, also season 11, she's still working on that giant house with like the etching birds and whatever, like they're still building that, and like that's that's her whole personality is building this house, and now her whole personality is building this condo.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: That's her whole personality, and I know that like we watched the show for wish fulfillment, so like seeing her do crazy things like have a champagne tunnel in her apartment is like interesting, and like that's what we're here to see.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: At the same time, it's just like I'm just gonna hope inside that they're donating a lot of money to a lot of charities and they're just not bragging about it, yeah.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: And also, I didn't know he was on the swan.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: I did not know he was on the swan.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: That I'm hearing things because like a documentary came out, which I don't know if I could bring myself to watch, but they weren't allowed to look in the mirror for like three months.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: I watched that, the doc wasn't that the one on Netflix or Hulu, I don't remember.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: Tell me, I watched it, tell me everything.
26:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's just it was really bad.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: The documentary, the show, like the fact that it ever made it to air was not good.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: Can you believe was it true that they couldn't look in the mirror for three months?
26:35
SPEAKER_01: Yes, that is so fucking crazy.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: I think I gotta watch the doc man.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: I think I have to.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: I think you should.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: I think you should.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: Because you're so right, like we can't shit on America's top model and how horrible it was.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: But the swan is like next level, like in a hundred years, people will look back at that and be like, oh my fucking god.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: They already are.
27:00
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm gonna watch it maybe today if I can't.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you should.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: We move on to Salt Lake, so Salt Lake City.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, we meet Ashley Quai, and I have zero thoughts about her thus far.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: She didn't make an impression either way.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: No, she didn't.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: I think that's fair, and that's okay.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: Um we see Whitney moving into the guest room.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: She thinks her kids think that their biggest fight was about a coupon, and I can guarantee you that that's not true.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: No, they're too old.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: I am sad for her though.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: Me too, that hug that hug that they shared at the end of the scene.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that just like will crush me a little bit because I still do think there's a lot of love there.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: I know.
27:58
SPEAKER_02: It's really, it's really too bad.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure if they tried therapy or not, but hopefully they did.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, she said that they were fighting about business stuff, and then they just started arguing about everything.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: I can see how that would happen.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: She like resented him for dragging her into an MLM, which I can see how that would happen.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: I'd be pissed too.
28:19
SPEAKER_01: We get a little Brittany, just a just a hint.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, my husband really thinks that she should be made a full-time snowflake holder, and this episode just made me feel remember why I disagree so so deeply.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: Why?
28:32
SPEAKER_02: Explain.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: She just bothers me so much that like it would bother me to have to be invested in her personal life on the level of like a real housewife.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, I can only be invested enough as a friend of.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm fully invested.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: Give her a snowflake, please.
28:47
SPEAKER_01: She does so much heavy lifting.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: Agree to disagree.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: Do you think Bron Wynn did call the paparazzi on herself to show off her hot ass boyfriend?
28:55
SPEAKER_01: I do 100%.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: Not a doubt in my mind.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: What did you think of their ski day?
29:01
SPEAKER_01: I liked their outfits.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: Skiing looks so hard.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: And then when snowboarding.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: My husband's a snowboarder, and good for him.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: I I just I'll go if there's like a tubing section.
29:16
SPEAKER_01: Me too, yeah.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: Tubing, making snow angels, making snowmen, and then like going into the lodge and having some beverage.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Opry ski time.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: Totes.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: But the thing about it is like my husband's really into snowboarding, and I feel like he's gonna want to get our kids into it.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: So I feel like somewhere along the way, like I'm gonna need to participate.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: But ski lessons are very expensive, and I don't have any equipment.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: And remember, uh, Natasha Richardson, I don't think you should expose your children to skiing, they'll be better off.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: We were our lives, they are not bad because we don't never skied.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: We didn't really live in a place that lended itself to skiing, but I do now.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: So we lived like an hour from Tahoe.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: People, my children can ski down slopes that have no trees, and it'll be fine.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: Natasha Richardson did not ski into a tree.
30:03
SPEAKER_01: Yes, she did.
30:04
SPEAKER_01: She was on the bunny slope and she just fell.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: You're thinking of funny bumbo.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she just fell on the bunny slope, dude.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's a freak thing.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, if you really look up the odds of that happening, they're very low.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: I just like don't need I just don't need it in my life.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: There's I know there's risk getting in the car every day, blah blah blah.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: So why add on?
30:24
SPEAKER_02: You know what's so funny is I'm just thinking about how I don't have any equipment and it would be expensive to get it all.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: And also my snow attire is my husband's old high school snow stuff, and I feel like it might be time to buy my own dedicated like snow jacket and pants and snow gloves and stuff.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Why?
30:45
SPEAKER_02: Because like we're gonna live here.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: This is where we are, and so I should probably like get my own dedicated.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: I want it to be pink and stuff, you know.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: Natch.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: I have high school boys' clothes.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: Also, I'm not 100% sure I fit into his high school attire anymore.
31:01
SPEAKER_01: So pants are the only thing that fits me right now.
31:05
SPEAKER_02: I am wearing leggings.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh, below deck.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh man, I I feel like the season's winding down and I'm sad about it.
31:15
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm not ready to say goodbye.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: Me neither.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: That lady dislocated her shoulder real bad.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: That looked they didn't even say mad.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: No, they didn't, they were like, bye to their friend.
31:32
SPEAKER_01: See you later.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: Tags.
31:36
SPEAKER_01: I think she was in shock because she was like so chill.
31:40
SPEAKER_02: I I would have been truly melting down.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: I would have just been grossed out, like her shoulder was just dangling.
31:47
SPEAKER_02: I would have been yeah, I would have been vomiting, I think.
31:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was wild.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: So the ladies, the charter guest requests a strip show from the young deck hands, which would be something I would never want.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't want it either.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, none of them were that hot, and like that just doesn't do anything for me.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: And also, if it were the other way around, it would never fly.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: So I don't like that double standard.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: I agree, and also it's like you're gonna see them the next morning at breakfast.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: It's weird, yeah.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: And they're not like they're not experienced strippers, just duck hands.
32:22
SPEAKER_01: I think it's very odd.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't like it, it made me uncomfy.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, Jen got shut down by Aisha.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: I loved that, I loved it too.
32:33
SPEAKER_01: She tried to like tattletale on uh Kat, and Ace's like, Well, you know, you're the one that's like connected to a lot of these, but Aisha did it so diplomatically and kindly as only Aisha can do.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: As a as a people manager, I was taking notes.
32:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's a special human, she really is, and then and then it worked because then Jen went and apologized to Kat.
32:57
SPEAKER_01: So a little side tangent.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: I finished Secret Lives of Mormon Wives finally, and there was the shot of Jen making a TikTok all by herself when all the other girls were, and it was so embarrassing.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: Like to see the other side, like you always see these TikToks face on, but to watch someone doing it from behind, this is another thing that in a hundred years if society still exists, they're gonna look back and be like, Did people really do that?
33:21
SPEAKER_01: These dance to the camera like that.
33:23
SPEAKER_01: It's I'm so embarrassed for us as a society.
33:27
SPEAKER_02: I think about that almost every time I watch a TikTok when into making it and how embarrassing that is for their soul.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: Like Pilot Pete.
33:37
SPEAKER_01: That's the most embarrassing.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: We look back at the 80s and we're like, oh my god, shoulder pads and big hair, so crazy.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: Dude, that was nothing.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: This is way worse.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm just so glad I never did one.
33:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not um I you know what surprises me actually, though, is how I don't see them occurring in the wild very often.
33:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I do, but I live in LA, so I work in New York, but I work in midtown, so never in New York you have to be like really thoughtful about where you do it because everyone's just like you know, you'll be fully in the way of most things.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you have to do it like on a quiet street or something.
34:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like there's this one speaking of things being in the way, there's this one Duncan that their like pickup window is right on a busy street walking down.
34:23
SPEAKER_02: I walk down the 32nd to get to my office from Penn Station, and it's just like the people waiting for their Duncan.
34:28
SPEAKER_02: I hate them so actively every morning because the line extends all over the sidewalk right in front of them, and it's just like nothing ignites my rage more.
34:40
SPEAKER_02: They're not even making TikToks, they're just waiting for their freaking coffee.
34:43
SPEAKER_02: I know.
34:43
SPEAKER_02: So imagine if I came across somebody in my way making a TikTok, I might actually like push them down.
34:48
SPEAKER_01: You would be in the background with your signature RBF.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: Yep, doing what you do best, scowling.
34:56
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: I'll keep an eye out if I see any TikToks made in Midtown.
35:01
SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
35:02
SPEAKER_01: You won't because nobody cool is there.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, but you know, I don't need to see any more of that ever, that show.
35:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm done.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: I think it served its purpose.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for your service.
35:13
SPEAKER_01: We're done.
35:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was a good moment in time.
35:17
SPEAKER_01: It's like, and if it comes back, I don't think I'll watch.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: Like, isn't it crazy how the Kardashians is still on?
35:22
SPEAKER_01: I was such a faithful watcher of that show.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: I forgot about it, honestly.
35:27
SPEAKER_01: They're still pumping out new seasons, and I just feel lighter knowing that like I'm not I don't have to take that on anymore.
35:35
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
35:36
SPEAKER_01: Not that I ever had to, but like it used to be fun, yeah, and it just wasn't anymore.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: And I doubt that it still is.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: But if you're still hanging on, then we support you.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: Send us a text.
35:48
SPEAKER_02: Although you can't anymore because Madeline turned it off.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: You're welcome.
35:53
SPEAKER_02: Um are we missing anything on Bravo?
35:58
SPEAKER_01: No, I think we're ready to pivot to 90 day.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: I have to say, I have to say, I watched this episode under the influence of an edible, and I was not always I was not always looking at the screen because I was going on a shopping spria to quote Blue Cantrell for my child, if you remember, yes, not for myself, a shopping spria for a nine-month-old, a future nine-month-old.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: Like, it is so easy because baby clothes are so cheap to be like nine dollars.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh, add that, you know.
36:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh, nine dollars.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, and then you like see your cart and it's like$350, right?
36:37
SPEAKER_01: And you're like, okay, let me delete some stuff.
36:39
SPEAKER_01: Wait, I'm not gonna delete that because that's only nine dollars, you know.
36:42
SPEAKER_01: That's only eight dollars.
36:43
SPEAKER_01: And then it's like, oh my god, don't worry, I just vicious cycle.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did not spend three hundred dollars on your child, but I did spend, you know, maybe more than I should have on a baby, but I can't wait to see him in all his clothes that I got him.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna look so cute.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna look so cute now that he goes to daycare and we put him in real clothes, so we're not like those parents who send him in pajamas every day.
37:07
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's really fun to dress him up.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: Like everybody says girl clothes are way cuter.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: I think we found some pretty cute stuff for him so far.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: I I'm excited.
37:18
SPEAKER_01: And like you said, some of the stuff you like said you needed.
37:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, he's got a lot of theme days coming up, and I don't I want to, you know, I'm gonna participate in all that.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: So not even just that, but like looking ahead to nine months, you know.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: Like you said you didn't have X or Y.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: So this is also that he'll wear when he's nine months.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: He might not be able to wear it now, but this is like a PSA to people who maybe are shopping for parents who are or people who are pregnant.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: It's like get them things for when the baby is nine plus months, because like you really get a lot of the stuff six months and under, you get a flurry from everybody, but then you you get to pass six months, and you're like, Oh crap, I actually like have nothing for you to wear.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: So, how are his what's his outer wear situation?
38:01
SPEAKER_01: Let's you know, we'll take this off the posh, we'll take it off the mic.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: But the point is so you weren't completely paying attention to part two of the tell-all, is what you're telling me.
38:11
SPEAKER_02: Just fair warning that I might have missed something.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: So, shall we start with Katie and Josh?
38:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they were the stars, and they really set it up, like you said, taking them to a bar really set it up to be Katie and Josh-centric.
38:26
SPEAKER_02: She just it's hard to watch her.
38:28
SPEAKER_02: She so very clearly has a problem.
38:30
SPEAKER_02: We don't even need to harp on it more.
38:32
SPEAKER_02: Like it just it was just it was on full display.
38:36
SPEAKER_02: That's all there is to it.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: But then the next day, did it almost kind of seem like he like understands her?
38:44
SPEAKER_01: Or no, was that the first day before the bar when when they were like looking at each other and she was like, you know, I love you, like blah blah blah.
38:51
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, I know, and oh, I honestly can't remember which day that was.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: I know that after the massive night of drinking where she got cut off, they um she went for a run.
39:07
SPEAKER_02: Did she actually go or did she just talk about going?
39:10
SPEAKER_02: She said she went, she said she had gone for a run.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: She looked fresh as a fucking daisy, dude.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: More power to her because I've had nights like that where it's like, wait, I don't want the drinking to stop.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, usually when I'm drunk, I just like want the party to last forever.
39:23
SPEAKER_01: So I can't fault her for that specific part.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: Every night is that for her.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then it it does seem like the cast solved it when they were like, Why don't you guys try roleplay?
39:36
SPEAKER_01: Not a bad not a bad option.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: She was like, I would like that, and then she like said that she was being an asshole and she like loved him.
39:43
SPEAKER_01: It was a different version of her that I'd never seen before.
39:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but she just she does need to stop drinking, and until she acknowledges that, like nothing will be solved.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: I know, and he said at one point she deserves a drink.
39:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's enabling.
39:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
39:57
SPEAKER_01: Nothing she has ever like nothing she could do at this point would make her deserve a drink.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: No, give her like an take her up for an ice cream cone.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: She deserves a soft serve twist, and then at the end, after they seemingly made up, and Sean was like, Thank you, she was like, uh she did that weird smile again.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, a glitch on the mitt in the system.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: Well, I obviously think there might be more diagnoses that need to be given to her than maybe haven't been.
40:26
SPEAKER_02: I think she might be slightly neurodivergent, you know.
40:30
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, just speculating, yeah.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: And it's just we spent so much time on that, it's crazy to think like we haven't even gotten to Debbie and Meeto yet.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, you're so right.
40:41
SPEAKER_02: That's bananas to me.
40:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, you're so right.
40:46
SPEAKER_02: Who else do we even talk about?
40:48
SPEAKER_02: Um, Marissa and Edward, a little bit.
40:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, why on earth did they get married if they're not in agreement on the kid thing?
40:56
SPEAKER_01: I will always wonder that about people who You can't marry someone until you're on the same page about that.
41:01
SPEAKER_01: You just can't.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: You you shouldn't, but they did.
41:05
SPEAKER_02: But if in her defend and I hate to defend her because I hate her, he did say he knew that that choosing her meant that that wasn't in the cards for him, and he did it anyway.
41:17
SPEAKER_02: And now he's like so upset about it, and now he's so upset, so that's like really on him, yeah.
41:23
SPEAKER_01: But I thought that Shay sharing his how he was adopted was so incredibly sweet, totally, but like, does he does does Marissa want to adopt a baby at her age?
41:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, I know she can there are ways that they can welcome a child, but like, does she want to?
41:39
SPEAKER_01: She's like 50.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: What if it's not a baby?
41:42
SPEAKER_02: What if it's a child?
41:45
SPEAKER_01: She just seems like so terrible.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, I yeah, I just like don't think she should be like, does he really want to have a kid with that woman?
41:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying she's a bad mom.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna say that in words, but like you could read between the lines, but she might be she's a bad person, I just can't imagine her as a mother.
42:06
SPEAKER_01: Let's just say that.
42:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, obviously, she is to two children who seem less than delightful, honestly.
42:14
SPEAKER_01: At least one of them.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: The one seems nice.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: I know he's the one that has the same nose as you and your little baby.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: Wow, thank you.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: He does I know lucky for you, it's not offensive.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: I have known he was gonna have this nose from my one of my very first ultrasounds.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: So crazy.
42:38
SPEAKER_02: It was crystal clear.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: I know elsewhere fell off.
42:46
SPEAKER_01: I thought that was shady and they didn't need to show that.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: But she but she handled it so well.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: I actually I really like her.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: Me too, even though she speaks in tongues.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: How can it be?
42:57
SPEAKER_02: How can it be?
42:58
SPEAKER_02: Because I I just like I find myself really enjoying her.
43:02
SPEAKER_01: Me too, and we haven't even gotten to them yet either.
43:05
SPEAKER_01: I know, like we still have so much, we haven't even gotten into Thomas and Paula yet.
43:11
SPEAKER_01: I know, but but so are we gonna have two more parts?
43:15
SPEAKER_02: Maybe actually, yeah.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: Shit, you know what?
43:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm not even mad.
43:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm not mad.
43:21
SPEAKER_02: This has been a great season.
43:22
SPEAKER_01: I know, and we did get a little Thomas when he was yelling at Rasheet for vaping in the car.
43:27
SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
43:28
SPEAKER_01: This time I was team Rasheed because everyone vapes everywhere.
43:32
SPEAKER_01: And Thomas was like, Come on, man, why are you vaping in here?
43:35
SPEAKER_01: Why couldn't you just say, like, hey Rasheet, is it cool if you just wait till we get out of the car to vape?
43:40
SPEAKER_01: I know I'm like, I know it's you know, we've had our differences, but it's like bothering you.
43:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, there's just like such a better way.
43:47
SPEAKER_02: I guess that's the issue, is like I see both sides.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'd be pretty pissed if somebody was vaping in a car with me as well.
43:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
43:54
SPEAKER_01: I like would not care at all.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why.
43:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I would definitely care.
43:59
unknown: Hmm.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: That would really piss me off.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: It's just like not on my list of issues, but anyway, so there was a sweet moment when Debbie told Mallory that she was like in a similar spot where her her her mom was like messed up and she was scared to have a kid, but having a kid healed her.
44:20
SPEAKER_01: I thought that was really sweet until Marissa, you know made it about her and how devastating it is that she's depriving Edward of that.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: It's like you don't have to, lady.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: You could have a kid.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what they're gonna do.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't know where they go from here.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: It's not for us to decide.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: We're not gonna solve this here today.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: Did we solve anything on the last resort reunion part one?
44:45
SPEAKER_02: No, I think if anything, like we were couples ended.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: I felt like this reunion should have been 90 minutes, not two hours.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: Why did we need to bring out Tim?
44:59
SPEAKER_01: That was such a nothing.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: I can't stand that fucker.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: Can we get him off of my goddamn screen?
45:04
SPEAKER_01: He didn't even do anything.
45:06
SPEAKER_01: He never does.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: He ate something out of nothing.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: So, but are those two gonna get divorced?
45:11
SPEAKER_01: Russ and pal?
45:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: Do they already announce it?
45:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know about like life, but if you judge it off of what they said on this tell-all.
45:22
SPEAKER_01: And last resort.
45:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the fact that they stayed together at the end was shocking to me.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: I was surprised by that, yeah.
45:28
SPEAKER_01: The fact that they've been together this long is shocking to me.
45:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do agree.
45:36
SPEAKER_01: And next week we're gonna bring out Darcy for who knows why, and that's another one that we don't need it that to be two hours.
45:42
SPEAKER_01: Like if we have to bring out Darcy, just make it 90 minutes, you know, eight to nine hours or whatever.
45:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's fine.
45:48
SPEAKER_01: We don't need all these gimmicks.
45:51
SPEAKER_02: Talk about a gimmick.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: Kara's hair.
45:53
SPEAKER_02: What was that?
45:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm not really sure what she was going for there.
45:59
SPEAKER_01: What did you think about her career making six figures a month?
46:03
SPEAKER_01: Her career as a basically a porn star in OnlyFans.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: I think that maybe she wore more.
46:09
SPEAKER_02: I think maybe she made that like one month, but I don't I'd really call BS that she's making that much every month.
46:21
SPEAKER_01: Then why would she say that?
46:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, but I just like don't think that that's because I've I feel like I've read stats where it's like a very small percentage of people on OnlyFans make enough to like that be their only source of income, and I highly doubt that she's one of them.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: But she is a famous enough to have more than just like anyone else who goes on OnlyFans, and now she's making it, but I don't think she is famous enough though.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: I think there's a lot of TLC.
46:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, look, these people are on Cameo.
46:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that that is the same.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think she she can make more on OnlyFans than Cameo.
47:02
SPEAKER_02: I think she'd probably make more on Cameo.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's shocking.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well we can agree to disagree on that one.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: One more thing we're not gonna solve here today.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: So it's tough because it's like if if she is making sex figures a month, let's just pretend that what she's saying is true.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: Like I wouldn't want to quit, but then like how do you like Yermo has a point.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, how do you explain to your son, like, yes, they are selling toys based on my vagina?
47:27
SPEAKER_02: That's something that she's gonna have to figure out within herself.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: Like, I support her, and she has every right to be on OnlyFans spreading that, those cheeks, that's fine, you know.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: Do you do you?
47:40
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, knowing those pictures are out there for your son's friends to see, like, that's tough.
47:46
SPEAKER_02: I would have a hard time with that.
47:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that would be enough to stop me, obviously.
47:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I mean, there are porn stars and and stuff who have there are women who get naked in movies.
47:58
SPEAKER_01: Emma Stone has kids and she like loves to flash her titties.
48:02
SPEAKER_01: She does.
48:03
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, her kids' friends are gonna see her titties too, you know.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: Kate Winslet, like all these actresses, Sydney Sweeney.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, good good lord.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: I feel like you just have to find a way to deal with the fact that people are going to make fun of him, or like, I don't know, talk to a therapist beforehand and then sit them down when the time comes and be prepared.
48:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like because the other kids are gonna find out at school and and they're gonna talk to each other.
48:33
SPEAKER_01: We saw your mom's tits.
48:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something to think about, anyway.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: Rebecca also apparently has new pictures out there.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: Her sparkly blazer and her wispy bangs were atroach.
48:47
SPEAKER_01: Isn't the point of these reunions to look hot?
48:49
SPEAKER_01: Don't these people want to show their partners or their ex-partners like what they're missing out on?
48:54
SPEAKER_01: No one seemed to care to do that.
48:56
SPEAKER_01: Clearly not.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: What did you think of Samit's blowout?
49:00
SPEAKER_01: He looked like it, his hair looked like yours, actually.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: Very beautiful.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was kind of nuts.
49:08
SPEAKER_01: It was jarring, but you know what?
49:10
SPEAKER_01: I support him.
49:11
SPEAKER_01: He wanted to have a little fun.
49:12
SPEAKER_01: He deserves it with what they're going through.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: He does deserve to have a little bit of fun.
49:18
SPEAKER_01: So we'll get more from them and Rebecca and Z next week.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: But we got a lot of Patrick and Thais.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, a lot's gone down with them.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: So they didn't say exactly what happened the day she got arrested.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: They didn't.
49:34
SPEAKER_02: But what I believe happened is she threatened him with a knife.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that true?
49:39
SPEAKER_01: I saw that in one report, but the day that they it actually happened, I watched the police video and he told police that she slapped him in the face during an argument two days after he filed for divorce.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: He said, She attacked me, she slapped me in the face.
49:55
SPEAKER_01: That's pretty much it.
49:57
SPEAKER_01: If that's true, why on earth did you call the cops?
49:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
50:00
SPEAKER_01: I just think that's such a pussy, nasty, vindictive move to call the cops.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: I do agree.
50:05
SPEAKER_02: That's why I thought it was I thought it was more than that.
50:08
SPEAKER_02: I thought she had a knife.
50:09
SPEAKER_01: That's I think he like said that later.
50:12
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if he changed his story or if she did have a knife.
50:15
SPEAKER_01: Because when the cops came to arrest her, like she was so calm.
50:19
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm not like how long am I gonna be there?
50:21
SPEAKER_01: And and it was just like really wild to see, especially seeing how they ended when they were on the show.
50:29
SPEAKER_02: Why do you think she doesn't want to be with him anymore?
50:34
SPEAKER_02: It feels like she's kind of the the one instigating this.
50:39
SPEAKER_01: Kind of, it seems like she wanted to separate, she says, but she didn't want a divorce, and then he was like, Oh, you want to separate?
50:46
SPEAKER_01: Fine, and then he filed.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: But why does she want to separate?
50:51
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: She said they were fighting a lot, which is like crazy.
50:55
SPEAKER_01: I just don't I still don't understand how we got here.
50:57
SPEAKER_01: And like Ross Matthews, God bless him, like you needed to dig a little deeper.
51:01
SPEAKER_01: He was telling her a horrible person, like he was being really mean to her, but then at the same time, then he was like, uh, yeah, maybe we could get back together someday, but I do want this divorce just to be finalized.
51:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
51:15
SPEAKER_01: No, and I don't know if we'll go back to them next week.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, next week is the only other episode.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: Please God.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: Please God.
51:23
SPEAKER_01: And then we have um Hunt for Love starting in the other way.
51:28
SPEAKER_02: Really exciting.
51:29
SPEAKER_01: I don't think I'm gonna be able to do Hunt for Love.
51:31
SPEAKER_01: I know I said I would, but have you forgotten that Michael's on it?
51:36
SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't forget.
51:37
SPEAKER_01: I could never forget that, but I just still don't know if that's gonna be enough for me.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: There are so many housewives, and the housewives are good, it's just a lot.
51:44
SPEAKER_02: I think you can make space for it in your heart.
51:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna commit to trying.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm still gonna commit to trying.
51:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I guess it's all we're gonna get from you.
51:54
SPEAKER_01: So your Sunday is almost over.
51:56
SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna rot for the rest of it?
51:59
SPEAKER_02: We all all three of us are in pajamas, and it's great.
52:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's just gonna be a low-key Sunday evening.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, but I do have to tell you, I've gotten pretty far into Widow's Bay on your recommendation.
52:14
SPEAKER_02: And I'm enjoying it.
52:17
SPEAKER_02: My husband can't watch it because he's creeped out.
52:21
SPEAKER_02: It's not even that creepy.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: He's a scaredy cat.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: It's not scary.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: It's not scary.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: What I will say is that I don't think it's funny, it's like a little kooky, like the fact that it was nominated in all these comedy categories, it bought that bothers me a little bit.
52:39
SPEAKER_01: To me, it's more of a comedy than the bear.
52:42
SPEAKER_01: Like, the bear is so fucking serious.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: Like Widows Bay, everything is done with like a little twinkle.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: How far are you?
52:53
SPEAKER_02: I just finished the episode where Patricia had her party, her sunset cocktails.
53:00
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so not that far.
53:02
SPEAKER_01: No, that was a great episode though.
53:04
SPEAKER_01: I think that's the episode that won her the Emmy.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: Probably, yeah.
53:08
SPEAKER_02: It was really good though.
53:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm enjoying it.
53:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, what are you gonna do with your evening?
53:15
SPEAKER_02: I know the VMAs are tonight.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm watching.
53:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be watching for sure.
53:19
SPEAKER_01: Are you?
53:21
SPEAKER_02: Probably.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: Luckily for me on the West Coast, it starts at like 4:30 or 5.
53:26
SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: Sorry about it for you.
53:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm jealous of that.
53:30
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, enjoy the rest of your rotting.
53:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm excited for you and myself because I'm gonna watch you.
53:38
SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for listening and rotting with us.
53:44
SPEAKER_01: Always, and we'll see you next week.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: We won't, but we will talk to each other, and you will be able to hear it next week.
53:53
SPEAKER_01: You we will flood your ears next week.
53:56
SPEAKER_04: Okay, goodbye.
53:57
SPEAKER_04: Bye.