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Episode 224: 'Inferno' (SG-A 2.19) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate this episode two hundred and twenty four, talking Stargate Atlantis,
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those of us that the hits today, Mitch, that's me, Maddie.
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Wow, telling you're not passive aggresive of that? Telling you well, I
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went to say, because my usual thing is the full Getting too Gate team
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is here, and that would have been a lie. So I went to
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say, hey, the Getting too Gate team that is here, and it
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came out. It did come out passive aggressively, and that's that's not That
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wasn't my intention. Sure, but but I mean, we're live here.
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There's no way I could possibly edit that out. So just roll on.
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Ye, the rest of the show will be edited otom now. All right,
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I'm we're out of radio station right now. It feels like we should
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be going live. Yeah, unless we say or then you let it absolutely,
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yeah, don't not the R word. Whoa recession? Oh yeah?
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Oh wait what it doesn't matter. We move on. We're talking Inferno.
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I've got some audio ladder here. Oh god, I have no idea what
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that could be. Yeah, but men are more interested. Inferno episode nineteen
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of season two, Oh Star get SG oneer as. I would like to
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call it the penultimate episode of the season, because I finally get to say
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that again. It's been a hot minute. Tuck it into your your belt
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there, just just lift it up and tuck it in. Hang on,
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Yeah there you go. Wow, that's impressive, isn't it past the belly
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button? Thank you? Yeah? Right over the top like my mother's dressed
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me for first grade. Ah right right, not just how like tight I
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was putting my pen How long it is it's gone past up bell? Yeah?
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Yeah, if I was out tanning right now like huge um ten mark
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like a human sun dial. Yeah. Oh it's noon again, is it?
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Thanks Mitch? Oh god? Well yeah, Brennan's not here this week.
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We're talking. It doesn't feel like it with him. You're right,
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actually, you know we both need to up our penis quota this week.
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Yes, what I say, penis. I could have just increased the penis
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quota. If you have a penis quota, then that's a whole Yeah.
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Maybe that. Maybe that's why Brendan's not here this week. He's got a
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bit of penis quote. Oh, he's got to fulfill his penis. He
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went from having the SETI cough to the penis quota. Mate, stopped playing
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with your old fellow. That's all gonna Sometimes he and Rees just need to
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get together, mate, let's have It's the Gibson Brothers podcast reunion. Quite
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literally, all bets are off. Um, we wish him well, we
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wish we we wish him well. Yeah, he absolutely Yeah. I don't
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know how to transition from that. That's why we don't edit it because otherwise,
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if I did, I would have edited seamlessly into welcome to get it
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to gate. It would be something more like so anyway, you know,
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from laughter, because then I can just mix it in from anywhere harder and
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there's any two of us, though I know it doesn't work so well.
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That's why this is so long in the tooth, this bit, because I'm
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trying to find it as if it is live. Hey, something I am
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excited about. And I'll tell you why in a second. This is directed
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by Peter Deloise, and I'll tell you why. I didn't see it when
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I watched the episode, but I would have bet my life on it while
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watching. So anyway, we'll get into the synopsis of Inferno, and then
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I'll tell you why the team is called upon to a distant village, not
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cornered, concerned by strong tremens. When McKay heads that English village concerned by
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I mean, is it one of those words that, depending on how the
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context it's read differently, like read and read, you know what I mean?
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Where's the village though they're living in an each and outposts to another planet.
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Yeah, okay, we'll start again. The team is called upon to
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a distant village concerned. He said, cornered again, the team is called
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upon to a distant village concerned by strong tremors. I'm losing the voice here,
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I'm just reading. When McKay heads underground to investigate the problem, he
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finds that the tremors are being caused by a super volcano that the leader agrees
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to evacuate his people. However, no, he didn't. However, the
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team becomes stranded when the gate is destroyed by a lover. Written by Carl
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Binder, correct directed by Peter De Luise. Now I will just jump ahead,
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and you know, absolutely nothing to do with anything that is in the
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snops is there, but it is actually nothing in the episode had to do
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with the absolutely right, what have we had? One good snopsis? A
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couple of weeks ago, where it was actually like, oh, that actually
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is kind of what happened. That's what happened. It's the thumbnail image on
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the DVD slip Is it Brainy Leadford's boobs? Is that he it's a Peter
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Deloise episode. No, because that hurt. That's okay, we'll talk about
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that a little bit more, no doubt. Um No, the like security
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guard for the leader of the guy that just opened the doors and never said
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a word. Yeah, he never spoke. He was and also could be
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a model. Yes, I was going to say, because you know,
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I love this guy. He is kind of like Frank Grillo light crossbones ut
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with it with a touch of m Tyler Hecklin. Yeah, yeah, Frank
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Grillo by way of Tyler Hecklin. But says absolutely nothing. And that's why
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I thought, I bet this is I wish I would have looked back because
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I thought, I bet that's a Deloise episode, and I bet that's the
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Delowise decision. That that guy says absolutely nothing the entire episode. He's in
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a lot of scenes. Yeah, and that leader seemed to look at him
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for he's kind of like a caddy and the golfer looks at him to go,
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hey, what do you reckon? Like the leaders they're making decisions,
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but looking over to this bloke and the guy's kind of like not even saying
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yes, that's okay that you make that decision, just reassuring him that yeah,
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absolutely gay, good for you. Believe in yourself any you seem very
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like front and center involved. Same as there was another scene later on where
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they're like, I don't know, they're they're in the main control when they're
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talking, and there's just like generic female scientist standing next to like a reprojectory,
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very involved in everything that's going on, but not at all acknowledged or
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spoken to or didn't that Yeah, it was It was interesting. Now.
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I also while watching this episode, I wanted to bring that guy up and
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go, oh, is this a Peter Delawise thing? If it's a Delawize
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episode. But I thought the fact that these people end up making it to
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Atlantis, they're there, they're safe, and this is leading directly into well,
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it's not necessarily a you know, it's not a two part or anything,
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but it is leading directly into the finale next week. I mean,
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for all, I know that silent guy is going to be revealed as like
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the pad may to this leader's like Kiera Knightley and look, this isn't this
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Okay, this is not a this is not a Star Wars thing that I'll
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give myself. Okay, there's there's there's my that's one. This would be
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a really weird podcast if I like wrap myself out for three and then you
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have to go. But you know I'm gonna I'm gonna make a reference to
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another another franchise. I should have given myself a that's one for Marble,
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two for Frank Gillo. But we move on. Thank you so much.
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You don't owe me that after the last couple of weeks, I should have
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started at plus two. Um that, yeah, he would be revealed to
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be something a little bit more important or relevant rather than just a joke that
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Delawis put in because I wasn't sure at the time, and I'm like,
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I'm going to come in all guns are blazing you and Brendon and go,
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hey, this guy's so funny. He says nothing and he means nothing.
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Ah, and you guys like, oh man, wait until next week,
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Yeah, wait to next week. Has revealed he's another Michael. He's a
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Wraith that's been turned human. Yeah, well that wouldn't surprise me because it's
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like you said, maybe because he should be a model, he too handsome
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to be. I mean, yeah, Peter Delwis does love his beefcake.
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Yeah, that's true. You know. I think the only the only other
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way you could have told that this was a Peter Delwis episode is if he
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just had no sleeves and just had some guns out. You're right, And
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if anything, he was wearing things that were too At one stage he waved
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his hand to let someone in the room, and that was we sort of
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got like this side profile, and I just saw how generic and baggy his
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pants were, and it's like they're just being taken out of the costuming department,
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Like, what's you're a thirty four? Yeah? Sure, his tunic
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number brown seven. You know that was Colemani, the Jenia guy for weeks.
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It's just his pants, Yeah, like it was. There was nothing
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particularly special about it, and I'm like, oh, this guy just might
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be nothing, but that might be the gag. So I'm actually really glad
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to see that, and I feel like he kind of disappeared to by the
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time the Chancellor guy got to Atlantis. Was he even there, like did
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he come through the gate with the chancellor guy? I feel like by the
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time the Chancellor got up to the control room and he's like, you've planned
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this all along. I don't think we saw that ever saw that guy again?
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Yeah, yeah, you're right. Actually, I think I've maybe got
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a false memory that he was there because he was always there near that chancellor
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leader guy. But maybe not maybe maybe maybe he got taken by the lava
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or something. I mean, I guess you know, in Atlantis, you
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know, all the doors open themselves, so the chancellors, I don't need
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you out of the job. Yeah, he barely had a job to begin
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with. Turns out he actually left. He was actually in that group of
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people with Taylor and Ronan the world that were just like we're going to go
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and cross the river and we'll be fine. Now. That guy, the
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leader of that little group. I feel like I've seen him, and he
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was a guy. In the audio commentary they mentioned he was a guy from
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a thing. Yeah, but I didn't recognize any of it. Oh,
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you know, you know, of all the things that I think that I
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know him from, I want to say that he was like a tilt of
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the Hut or that's Jab of the Hut. That's the most fantastic. Oh
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no, do I have to give myself with that? I don't at till
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of the Hun or Um Genghis Khan from the Night at the Museum Films.
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It is amazing. I was just talking to Jacob the other day. I'm
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gonna you keep talking. I'm gonna I'm gonna holly this so I'm gonna google
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it. Well, I'm yeah, I'm on IMDb looking him up now to
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see if I can find the thing. You It's just funny. Like I
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was talking to Jacob about this the other day, I've never seen any of
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The Night at the Museum, neither of the Nights Museum. Yeah, there's
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three three, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you we should make
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that a thing. They are, honestly, they're They're an underappreciated trilogy.
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Second one second one. I actually watched on you you wouldn't think you're right.
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Holy shit, that's him And what's he play? What's it say you
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play? Patrick Gallagher? Ye? Not a museum, Attila the Hun Oh
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damn? Wow, look at you? You know what? And you're here.
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I've seen him in a hundred things. I bet that's the only thing
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that I've seen that guy. Now, that's not true. He's way too
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familiar. I don't only know him with long hair like he has In that
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I mean to bring back to Marvel. He was in Captain Marvel. He
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was the security chief and Captain Marvel whatever that maybe, And that's like that's
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on brand at the moment with Secret Invasion out. Oh no, I've double
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im. Sorry've doubled marveled myself. I brought that up for no reason.
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I get like seventeen. That's ones. Man. If there's a James Bond
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reference here, I'll just keep starting again three minutes. Some one who doing
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this by myself? Thanks? Yeah, he was at all the night at
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the museums him too, something about looks, side panel, side notes.
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You should or we should definitely watch those because those are fun um. Second
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one known as great Um, but I did watch it. You wouldn't believe
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it on the way to seeing the third one. It had been out for
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yours. The third one was if it wasn't the last completed film that Robin
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Williams did, it was the second last complete or something like it was right.
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It came out after his death and see. I know he was doing
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that. He was doing that TV show with Sarah Michelle Geller. Oh that's
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true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. He was that.
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That wasn't completed, was it they No, I think they got their first
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season. They've got a first season out. Yeah. Yeah, Well this
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one like because okay, the museum, you understand what happens, right,
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Ben still has a security guard. Things come to life. He's one of
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the things that comes to live. So obviously there are times when it's day
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at the museum and he's not alive. There's a moment like basically he has
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this monologue. Yeah, I believe about Fairwells in the third film that was
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obviously filmed and written and shot and all that sort of stuff before he died.
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That took I was in tears watching that because it was Robin Williams basically
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farewelling. There were holy shit, that destroyed me. So yeah. Side
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note, because of Attila the hut Hun that's features in this episode for about
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fourteen seconds, you should watch nine of them. Erhaps Well, it turns
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out he was also an SG one back in season six's Abyss, the first
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time we're introduced to Baal and Jack's in the in the in the gravity,
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Yes, Sell and Senda Daniel comes to meet him for the first time.
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He plays the crucial role of Jaffar commander. H Okay, he's in that
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episode apparently, but no, there was something um in the director's commentary.
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They're referring to something that he was in and made him like like repeat a
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line from this, But on none of these movies are jumping out at me.
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So have listened to the DVD commentary if you can, because just throwing
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in just a little surprised like they like to do for us. Hi,
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I'm Peter Delawise, director of this episode entitled Inferno, and I am Peter
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Delawis, otherwise known as Gary Joe. Yeah, yeah, I'm not Peter
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Delawis and Gary Jones from a different show. Even I'd just like to thank
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you Gary for joining me. A lot of people ask me, why does
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Gary Jones do commentary on Atlantis with you, Peter? If Gary is in
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fact a cast member of s G one right, and I say to them
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I need Gary Without Gary, then all seems pointless for me. It's it
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makes it all with whole to be able to do this with you. I
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mean, I'm half being kidding, but but I am serious that I do
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appreciate your your participation. And also when I say that, you know,
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it just doesn't seem worth it without you. Yeah, I'm not kidding,
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right, but I do think it is going on. Gary, I can't
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quit you. So Okay, since they're last, they're not allowed to do
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it anymore. Yeah, is this the third one? But I feel like
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the first one was recorded after sorry, before they weren't allowed to do it
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an yea. Chologically speaking, the episode came after, so that was a
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cheap version. But I feel like twice since then. Yeah, since since
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we heard them say this is going to be our last commentary, this has
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got to at least be the second one so far. They sneak this one
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through a Cooper maybe he wasn't paying attention directing last week's episode, ranting and
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raving a bit, how many he's got too many jobs, he's wearing so
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many hats he can't even see. Yeah, he was too busy, just
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you know, just you know, working craft service. They were able to
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sneak in, record an entire director's commentary and leave the building before Cooper had
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stopped talking about how many jobs he had on one episode, but that's stage
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just like what and I was also the driver and by that Sage Gary Jones
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has left the car park. Really he's on hiatus for the rest of the
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season and you know he's done. Love it fantastic. Oh good, Okay,
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that's another one we're gonna look forward to to, like another forty two
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minutes just watching this episode. Listen to those guys, which I will say,
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first time Atlantis, Um, I really liked this episode. This is
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this was way better than I remember. Yeah. I just remember this as
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being just like, yeah, it's fine, Yeah, we get a ship.
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Because going into it, I'm thinking about the last line that was in
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the previous Atlantis episode, which you guys referred to in our podcast, saying
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when shepherds aging, we're gonna need more firepower. And you guys like,
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why would he say that he doesn't know what's happening next week? It just
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seems like it's the writers putting what they know into the character's mouth as opposed
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to the story. Because he also doesn't know until about ten and fifteen minutes
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into this episode that there's either ship there's a Hive ship coming three weeks away,
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and I'm like, that's a really long distance. There was ranged.
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There was really clumsy lines in there about how like you know, the people
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were like, oh, we've been sending out so oss for a while and
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no one responded, and he was like, yeah, sorry about that,
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but why do we need any of that? Yeah, that was weird because
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we've been trying so many different frequencies. We didn't think anyone was going to
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be out there. And then instead of just going, well, I'm glad
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you finally found us, which would have been a good way to explain it,
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even if they had have been denying it, he's like, yeah,
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we've just been busy. I'm like, oh, so you do you have
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been hearing them? Yeah, he's just been dicks because last episode you were
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dicks, and like now I'm like at one stage in this episode where the
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leader was accusing them of setting this whole thing up and like, man,
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I wouldn't need I'm not saying that they went in and you know, chucked
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a new into the super volcano to stir it up, but yeah, based
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on what happened last time, it's not it's not out of the role of
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possibility that they would completely shit up just to get that big ship. If
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I knew about it, yeah, I mean they would have done it for
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a half dozen drones at this point. Absolutely. I was. Actually it
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was one of those really like, oh, sit up on the couch moments
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when they went down further further so far that your ears pop and there's a
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ship there that yeah, yeah, wow, that's cool. That's when Shepherd
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had to tuck it in. His bell just went from six to midnight.
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Yeah, yeah, that was really cool. Now it was. I'm glad
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you said that. Yeah, it was better rather than you remembered, because
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I don't know it was. We've probably seen you know, this sort of
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stuff before quite often web sped up something bad that's happening to the planet anyway,
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but to get there, okay, it's a matter of convenient timing.
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But it wasn't just like it wasn't like it has been before exactly, but
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the idea of like, hey, well we switched this on and we didn't
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know what it was, but we wanted to be super safe, so we've
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been like you know, sending out signals and getting it bounced back so we
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can keep track of what's happening and staying safe. On the radar and also
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shields are written maximum like, yeah, you've just hastened your own extinction though,
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so this is actually really cool. And then of course why wouldn't the
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leader go, hey, we've just found this ship. Oh hang on,
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sorry, you found this superpowered ancient ship. That's so crazy. You guys
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are about to die. You should totally leave here, and hey, we'll
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we'll go and have a look at the thing and maybe we can fix it
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up and maybe, like we probably take it, I guess. So,
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you know, they look sass, But just the sort of speed at which
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it all happened, and even learning about like I don't know, I've probably
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come across the knowledge of super volcanoes before, but just the way that he's
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explaining it to We are saying, hey, you think about you know a
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little triangular mountain. Sure, yeah, you know, and you're thinking about
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this mountain and this volcano. Now I'm talking about Yellowstone National Park, And
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you know, I'm like, I watch I watch Yellowstone. That's really big,
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um, and I'm like, holy shit, that's that's a super volcano.
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A Pierce Brosn movie where there was like a big volcano Dante's peak.
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Yeah, yeah, the more believable version of Volcano, the Tommy Lee Jones
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film. They it was one of those years where Hollywood released the same film
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twice, the same as like Deep Impact and I'm again, yeah that was
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what that was ninety eight, But yeah, ninety seven Dante's Peak and Volcano
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were Volcano was like, oh la, perfectly fine, all of a sudden,
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massive volcano coming up from beneath the streets. Was that the one when
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there was like two people getting it on in a hot tub and then they
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boiled alive. That was Dante's Peak. I think that is a hot spring.
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That was how they, like some Pierce Brosen comes along in between making
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Bond films, like awesome, weird ships going on, and then it's like
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they go over hot spring. Two people are naked and just like boiled alive
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and you know, a river turned to acid. You know, it was
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great, so much great stuff. Yeah, Grandma got burnt um pushing a
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little digging across the river. Great film. You remember the weirdest thing Linda
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Hamilton's mate, that shit scarred me. And again now there's another side quest.
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I'm eleven when that film came out, and they're all going to die
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because acid is eating this metal boat and you know, the propellers getting chewed
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up by the acid. The boat's getting sizzled from within. There's two kids,
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these her two grandkids who she's a bit of a bitch too, and
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it's her daughter in law, like her son is long gone, but she
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still kind of gives a shit about her daughter in law. And then this
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new James Bond looking motherfucker who's kind of hitting on her daughter in Laurie went.
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Now that her son's dead and they're all going to die, and she
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just decides to sacrifice herself, jump out the boat and then push it to
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shore while the acid eats at her legs and she is screaming, this old
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woman in a little sweater and she is screaming while the score kicks in.
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And I'm just watching this at eleven is my jaw open, like ah,
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this is what death is. This scares me. See, I do remember
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the weirdest ship, but that that lives rent free in my head and I
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don't want it to. Yeah. Oh we're talking about the Chancellor too.
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Did he look familiar to you? Yes, but I couldn't tell you where
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from hell Stargate he was. I actually figured it was. I'm like,
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I bet she's as actor, but it could have been last year, it
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could have been seven years ago in season one. Shit, he was.
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He was the doctor before we had Fraser. Oh my god. It was
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like a doctor for a couple of episodes back in like season one. Yeah,
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and then he came back in season three when Daniel was crazy because of
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the little invisible bugs. But when they put him in the in the padded
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room. Ye, he was the doctor in that one too. Holy shit.
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Yeah, that's like, I don't want to actors is one thing,
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and really, I mean that guy didn't play a pivot a whirl, but
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to play someone that was like a recurring person on bass Okay, it was
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in a different series within the Stargate franchise, but um, that's a bit.
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Yeah. But then they did it again with Brandy Leadford, so she
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was in Stargate SG one as well. She was back in season's seven's end
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game. He's the blonde scientist, yeah, where she was the toker pretending
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to be um. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, I know
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I knew I recognized her from somewhere, but I'm like, hang on,
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does she like the fact that they came to Atlantis and she was very you
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know, science focused. Is she going to become some type of you know,
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series semi regular. You know, she's going to be one of those
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secondary characters. And have I just seen her in clips or photos or something
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on going? But also she looks a lot like the actress Elizabeth rom who
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I know as like one of the assistant district attorneys from Law and Order.
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I was saying, us for you, one of the Law and Orders.
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And also she played a very very very very similar character in the Buffy spin
22:41
off show Angel Elizabeth Rom or this Oh really yeah, she played like did
22:47
you get to know the name that? Yeah, she played a Los Angeles
22:49
cop, shit like a Begreduate cop for like two So she looks like her,
22:55
but I guess like sci fi sexy version in a way like this.
23:00
This is one of the few episodes that I sat down to, like,
23:04
you know, very really don't get a chance to actually sit down front of
23:07
the TV big screen and watch an episode start to finish, no interruptions.
23:11
And my wife Sarah malaf is there and she went to sit there next Mill
23:17
Oh you're gonna and all of a sudden, I get kind of embarrassed because
23:19
I'm like, this is I'm watching it for fun, but I'm also watching
23:22
it for research. And you know, then you got McKay who's just bumbling
23:26
his words, lots of lots of sexual innuendo, and then you get this
23:30
she wasn't like you know, Valor and some of her finest or some of
23:34
the probably even a niece or yeah, probably even this. This actress is
23:38
you know, Toker equivalent where they're dressed in a very sci fi like me,
23:44
hey, women are hot, men need to be covered up sort of
23:45
way. But obviously she's like a beautiful woman and she's wearing a very tight
23:51
fitting dress and they make a real point and that weird moment where we Is
23:53
says to She's like, so what's the chance to look like and he's like,
23:57
I don't know. He's a dude. I didn't look because I'm a
24:00
street man. This is where I really wish Brendan was here because I laughed
24:03
out loud and oh man, I hope he's killing himself that he's not here
24:08
for this particular moment, because yeah, they're trading off. She's like,
24:12
where's McKay Always no he's real busy back there, and she's like, because
24:15
the yeah, the doctor is hot, and he's like, no, I
24:19
was going to say very attractive. And McKay's acting whatever she said and he's
24:23
like, I was going to see pathetic. And then he's like, anyway,
24:26
I'm going to go back off because that doctor, you know, needs
24:30
my assistance with something. And then all of a sudden, weirds like I'm
24:33
being to come too. I've been to come off world right now because you
24:34
were just talking about a really hot scientist that you're kind of friendly with it,
24:38
I immediately must be there, and I'm like, holy did you do
24:41
this for Brendan in fifteen years? Is that why this scene exists? And
24:45
then she played I was like, well, I'm gonna go and see if
24:48
the chancel. As you know, I don't even look twice at you,
24:51
John No. Yeah, holy shit, that just that got me. That
24:55
was hilarious. She um Brendie Leavitt. Also, funnily enough, she was
24:59
the character that replaced doctor Lamb in Andromeda when I can't remember her name now
25:07
that like doctor Lamb her real like Michael Shanks's wife in real life, Lexa
25:14
Lexai. She left first half a season or whatever, and Dromeda when she
25:18
was pregnant with Michael Shanks's barbar and Breni Leadford was the one that replaced her
25:22
as like the AI of the ship. Oh that's right, I remember you're
25:25
talking yet, because A Brian has been in the show before. And also
25:29
her ex husband, Martin Cummins was in that season sixth episode where like Jonas
25:33
and and everyone's trapped on the planet with those people who are like prisoners on
25:37
the ship and the Cerberus and all that kind of stuff, where that whole
25:41
thing about Cummins and you don't remember that, remember, I remember the fact
25:45
that we had fun with Cummins comin Yeah, and what did he commins?
25:49
Um? Yeah? Yeah. But by this point they were divorced, so
25:53
he wasn't coming there anymore. Like, you know, there's so many programs
25:57
out there, but it is such a it's its own side of let's just
26:03
say Hollywood for lack of a better term. It's such an incestuous little pool,
26:06
isn't it. Sci Fi? It's like you're you're a TV sci fi
26:08
actor and then it's just like, well you just just jump between them and
26:11
wait to get to allies in two weeks time finale for Atlanta season two.
26:17
Oh my god, Kay, incredible, incredible, incredible, incredible. Um.
26:22
And the other incestuous part about it is Brandy Leadford's other show that she
26:25
used to be on with Jason Momoa. She was on Baywatch Hawaii within Bullshit
26:30
to hang on That makes time that absolutely beautiful young blond woman. Yeah,
26:36
and then you don't see her. Speaking of blond woman, no, I
26:40
won't say she's not beautiful. UM. What you may miss in this episode,
26:45
but we'll see in next week's episode, which I believe will be the
26:48
finale for SG one. Nancy Martin, She was the two thousand and five
26:55
winner for Get This Get in the Gate What which is a competition that star
27:00
Get used to run where you could win a cameo in the TV show.
27:06
It happened a couple of years ago with UM, remember when there was blonde
27:11
were and she was being briefed by the president and there was the whole Kinsey
27:15
stuff. Yeah, there was like a woman that like the President kind of
27:18
ushered out before he had his meeting with Oh. Yes, she was a
27:22
competition winner as well, saying that. So this woman, Nancy Martin,
27:26
she was A two two thousand and five Winners. She won a part in
27:29
both, so she had a little moment in here as one of the just
27:30
the generic towns people, which I didn't really spot her. But she actually
27:34
gets a much bigger part in next week's episode, the finale for SG one,
27:41
where she plays the what would you call him, like the mayor of
27:45
the little camelot town. Yeah, she plays the wife of John Noble.
27:49
John Noble's in it. Spoiler alert, Um, so yeah, she's just
27:52
there standing next to him in this little hood like for the whole episode.
27:56
They're like, we're going to make sure she doesn't get cut out of these
27:57
ones. So she's just standing to John Noble playing is playing his wife.
28:02
That's cool for the whole episode. Well, we're going to get through it
28:03
because this is Atlantis. But I mean a word of warning to you.
28:10
I make no promises, and I'm sure Brendan wouldn't either that We're not gonna
28:14
there's gonna be some den thought chat. Okay. John Noble coming in is
28:17
obviously going to be. He's in a lot of other stuff. He's on
28:18
French one hundred Years. I get it. He's done a lot of stuff
28:21
to you know, he's one of his more regular roles. Was just recently
28:23
he was the bad guy on the new Star Trek show, the animated one,
28:29
the Janeway Prodigy. That's right. I think he did the voice for
28:33
the bad guy that one. Yeah, yeah, I mean can you just
28:38
can you? And the water's warm? Can you? Is that? Okay?
28:44
That's why I pause? Okay, okay, good, good good.
28:45
You know, you know, I just feel like which I mean, I've
28:48
got two of them, so that's all right. It's a friendly pool.
28:52
Yeah. Can I talk about the most weird and off putting thing I noticed
28:57
in this entire episode. It's completely pathetic, But what the hell was that
29:02
belt we was wearing? Did you see that she had this little like black
29:07
belt with I think, like, you know how Carter has that little scanning
29:10
device. You know, Carter sometimes walk around with with like a little ps
29:14
like PSP whatever it is. We was wearing a jack like a bat over
29:18
the top of her jacket, like when she went to the planet she put
29:22
her official Atlantis jacket on. I'm just going to scan through the episode.
29:26
Now, look on the absolute legitimate streaming saucer you're watching it on. I've
29:32
got access to MGM mate. Obviously class on Amazon Prime is getting twice my
29:36
money. Yeah, and dare you. Especially in that scene we're talking about
29:40
before where ridiculously handsome guy opens the door and then we walks in to talk
29:44
to the chancellor, she's just wearing this black belt around her like gray jacket,
29:48
and it's got like it's like a Batman utility belt. It's got this
29:52
little pockets hanging off it, and at no point is it registered, like
29:55
referenced in the entire episode, nor does she do anything with it the entire
29:59
time she's away. Okay, I know I can see that now. Yeah,
30:02
they're briefing it where they got the window out to the volcano, yeah,
30:06
and or whether the gate sorry where the volcano ends up a rufting.
30:08
So I've just seen it. Yeah, it's like a black Batman you tell
30:11
it. Yeah, there's like a little pouch on the side that looks like
30:14
it's holding her PS one or whatever, PSP whatever. Especially what is that
30:18
color? What's the jumpsuit is that it's not even too light to be and
30:22
it's got like the flame red sort of sections in the middle of it.
30:26
So it's a very busy jumpsuit. Anyway, and then just a black belt
30:30
again over the top, yeah, not attached to her pants, keeping her
30:33
pants up, and then a jacket over the top. They've put it over
30:37
her jacket. Yeah. And I mean, since I know this is an
30:38
audio medium, but since I've shown you the video, we have had nothing
30:42
but close up shots of her face excellent. We've had no wide shots to
30:45
see to see the belt. But yeah, go back and check it out.
30:48
Yeah, it's it's it's odd. I don't understand it at all.
30:52
Is it another one of those things where Delawi is like where are this?
30:56
Why I would have those weird sexist things where it's like she had it on
30:59
but then it made her hips look bulky when she put the jacket on and
31:02
said They're like, wow, we've got to put it around over the top
31:03
because we can't have your hips look at that. Yeah you know what,
31:07
Hey, this is the mid to late two thousand. Yeah, absolutely,
31:08
that would have probably come into Yeah, but then like why not? What
31:12
why did she need it? Like, she doesn't use it at any unless
31:15
there was a deleted scene or whatever, but she doesn't use it for anything.
31:21
Yeah. Look, she's not doing any science. She'sad a negotiating.
31:23
Just ask her at the end she obviously you know, the way she's been
31:26
going, she definitely fixed it. Just looking at this, I mean,
31:30
there's so many attractive sci fi and we have a lot of fun with this
31:33
sort of stuff. But you look at mister silent type and then you look
31:37
at the blonde signs is like and also watching this on the big screen,
31:41
there's the belt. Okay, yeah, that's fantastic. It does look strange.
31:45
Yeah, it's like it's it's holding in as if as if the zip
31:48
was broken on her jumps. Yeah, it's the equivalent of that episode of
31:52
The Simpsons where Uma Lisa designs the Malibu Stacey and then they bring it now
31:59
with a hat. Yeah, we're we're season two with belt. Yeah,
32:02
that's that's the new action figure. It's weird with belt. Yeah, you
32:07
just had to pay premium forty seven dollars this new action figure. Just so
32:09
many beautiful people in that scene. Because I was watching it, yeah,
32:13
on the big screen, and it's you know, nice and clear as opposed
32:16
to watching on my laptop, and I'm again with my wife sitting there and
32:22
it just it it looked like it was shot on video as opposed to film.
32:25
Right, whatever we've been previously watching on TV obviously shot on film,
32:30
So it looks different. It looks a little bit cleaner, the backgrounds a
32:32
bit more in focus, but everything and the frame rates up, so it
32:36
just moves differently. It looks differently. It's clean, it's crisp, and
32:38
then you've got this beautiful blond woman, really handsome, tall, silent type
32:44
guy in the background, and it's like, Okay, so everything looks great.
32:49
The people are beautiful, but we're here talking about what a volcano on
32:52
a distant planet's like. So we're talking about really geeky, nerdy stuff,
32:55
but we're surrounding it with really hot people. Like what else do we want?
33:00
The term McKay would always use for like the part of the volcano we
33:04
were on, like the crusted of opening the something. I'm like, I've
33:07
never heard that one before. I believe the hell out of him when he
33:10
says it. Yeah, but I'm like, okay, and we really were,
33:14
I mean when they were running out and then the lava just erupts in
33:16
front of the gate. Yeah. Now, based on what we know that
33:21
the minerals and material, I know lava is super dangerous. Yeah, but
33:24
based on what we know about what the gate is made out of it and
33:28
what it can withstand, what we've seen it withstand in the past, would
33:31
lava have destroyed the gate or would it just like have sunk into the Yeah,
33:36
alten magma that liquid hot magma. M Yeah, obviously there's no way
33:42
for them to access the gate now. Yeah, but yeah, I don't
33:45
necessarily given that. It's like Carter was able to send one into like the
33:49
coronosphere of a collapsing sun or whatever. I mean, greated that have like
33:52
a shield around it and stuff like that. Um, Yeah, I don't
33:57
know. I think maybe maybe the Pegasus one's as sturdy as the old the
34:01
old Milky Way ones. Yeah, you know they are digitals. Yeah,
34:05
it's you know, the the um the Milky Way stargates are like a Nockia
34:08
thirty three cam. Yeah, and the you know, the the Pegasus ones
34:13
like a Apple their an iPhone. They don't drop it. Yeah, that
34:15
thing's cracking. You don't need to go get Oh sorry, you've had that
34:19
for more than two years. Gonna need a new one. Yeah, in
34:21
two years. They've got to change the charging port and you've got to redo
34:22
every other DHD. That's no good anymore. I'm so sorry. Yeah,
34:27
now we've we've actually changed all the addresses. Six sorry seven point no,
34:31
No, you're gonna need it's gonna need eight. Yeah, none of that's
34:35
good. You don't need a software update. Yep, you're gonna need ear
34:37
plugs, separate ear plugs because we've removed the thing someone pops in. You
34:42
should get a Samsung. I'm sorry. That's one Samsung along and another franchise.
34:45
Please the more. Um, what's the word And the fact that I
34:51
can't think of the word is so ironic considering the word, I'm trying to
34:53
Cerebra. You're just like you're pointing your brain. I was stroking. Yeah,
34:59
my ten going, Maddie, please think of the smart word for the
35:01
unsmart person in the room that was on without knowing that's where the episode was
35:07
going to go. I mean a good chance it was going to get there.
35:09
But it's the volcano episode. But they also like they could have destroyed
35:14
a lot of shit and not being able to access the gate or something happened
35:16
without actually having the gate sync down. But when they were talking about the
35:20
fact that, hey, there's a chance that like we might get some like
35:22
I don't know, lava might be around, might get a little little moat
35:27
of lava, might be some poisonous gas ORF one hundred ks away, We
35:30
don't know. I'm looking at that shot, that wide shot. Were you
35:34
looking at the at the gate, you know, a couple of hundred meters
35:36
away from the facility, And I'm thinking, cool, cool, cool,
35:38
cool cool. Can we like maybe it's a precaution, Maybe move that,
35:45
yeah, like inside the shield bubble that they're in, that that would work,
35:50
Yeah, you know within the shield bubble. If if that's not going
35:52
to work, if you've got no way to like drop it in, Like
35:54
at the SGC, what's this Sorry, it's a forty or fifty mile you're
36:00
thinking super volcano? Move it sixty seventy mile away? Because they seem to
36:07
like be able to move great distances really quickly, Like when they were going
36:12
to the villages when um line boots boots, um what's not the guy you
36:20
hate your Beckett? When you know Beckett's out there helping the guy that like
36:23
the I love that building shook and they're like, oh my god, that
36:27
was a really bad one. Like Shepherd the UK, no we've had a
36:30
couple of people suffer, and we go up there, absolutely no damage,
36:34
and there's one guy just kind of like sitting on one of the stairs holding
36:36
his head going hit his head like heaps hard. Yeah, exactly what it
36:42
was. And then Beckett gets up there and I'm like, he was so
36:45
far away. Yeah, unless you've got teleportation devices, and I haven't seen
36:50
one vehicle here, so unless you're in like some kind of bullet train situation.
36:53
He's had to walk back in the tunnels. As we code to learn
36:57
as the episode goes on, we got a lot of tunnels, mad tunnels
37:00
everywhere. He's had to run a long way back, and he gets back
37:02
and this guy is still sitting on the same step, and like, you
37:06
know, Beckett runs McKay and he's like over there, and he runs overs.
37:09
Oh yeah, let me have a look at it, you know yeah,
37:10
and mean while Shepherd's just like, well, there's nothing I can do.
37:13
I'll just didn't bleed out over there. He's just sitting there like no
37:15
one's even no one's even caring for him at this point. And then there's
37:19
a bit later on where Taylor and Ronan think they're dying from the sulfur gas
37:22
or whatever, and that Ronan's like, oh, maybe we should shouldn't take
37:24
the tunnels, we should just go back the other way. And he's like,
37:28
no, it's too far. It wasn't too far back yet, No,
37:31
no. And I was wondering in that moment when they'd been sitting there,
37:36
you know, struggling for breath for so long, and Taylor said,
37:39
maybe you were right, Maybe we should have just tried, because here we
37:43
are dying, and maybe we should have tried our luck for just walking back
37:46
on the surface. And then he gets to Rona and there was no empathy
37:52
in the way that he said it. It was no, no, Taylor,
37:57
you were right. Not that they even argued earlier. She was like,
38:00
I just honestly think we should stay here, but he was like no,
38:02
And she had a good point. She's like, the longer we stay
38:05
breathing, the longer chance as long as there's air and our lungs, there's
38:07
hope, which I loved. But when he told her she was right,
38:12
he's like, no, you're right, she's just out here. And I'm
38:15
like, oh, you bastard, there's a bit like I believe that you
38:19
think that's but you kind of there's a little bit of aggression. They're going,
38:22
if we do die, I mean, where are we dying? Oh
38:27
the place that you said we should have stayed. It's so interesting. What
38:32
I thought was interesting about about that whole plot point is McKay um radio Shepherd
38:40
to let him know that there's like sulphuric gas or whatever leaking through bloody blood
38:45
bladh bloodh blah. But then Shepherd has to somehow like switch channels to tell
38:52
Taylor. Yeah, why weren't they all on the same channel, like like
38:54
they are in every single episode. Yeah, Like I was just like,
38:58
why why would why would Rodney not just be able to tell Taylor straight away?
39:01
Yeah, but you know, John, just go Taylor. You got
39:05
that. She's like got it, especially when they basically gave you the out
39:09
as it went on, going, Oh, there's too much electrical shit in
39:13
the air. You know, they're too far under ground, you know there's
39:16
some disturbance whatever. Like they gave you a reason why they couldn't contact them
39:20
on the channel they were trying anyway, they could have just had that happen
39:23
a little bit earlier, like there was enough threats going on every two minutes,
39:29
it felt like there was another problem that came up, and I didn't
39:30
sit there and feel like, Okay, we get it, Oh this is
39:34
going from bad to worse. Like I genuinely felt that every problem built off
39:38
the last one in a believable way. It was this way to like they
39:42
were able to sustain the tension without it feeling like they were just dragging on.
39:46
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The way you described was just
39:50
like each little problem was just building off everything else, and it wasn't to
39:52
the same group every time, you know, like you'd have a problem to
39:55
Shepherd and Co. That were there, but then it was something else would
39:59
build off what they were going through to and it would affect Taylor and Rona,
40:04
And then even when you get some time like it wasn't even like we
40:07
got told earlier, hey, the Dadalust is on its way, and at
40:09
the start of the episode just to sort of planned a seed when they were
40:12
already struggling, it was like, hey, well, the Dadolyst is on
40:15
its way back here, let's just send it that way. And that's even
40:17
believable in itself because the Dadolyust is always coming back and forward between Atlantis and
40:22
Earth, that's fine, send them over there, and which you know call
40:24
well a bit of a dick move in a way because he's there. They
40:27
said, hey, we get hundreds of people down. It wasn't it was
40:30
about hundreds, right, there's something like that, Um let's throw over and
40:32
up there. He's hey, whoa, there's only so much air up here
40:37
and food and stuff, like, we'll be pushed. Man. I don't
40:39
want to, like, we don't want to be shoulder at the shoulder with
40:42
these people. These are strange people. Women's last time they bathe. We'll
40:45
just take a couple of them and we'll then we'll be back in like twelve
40:47
hours, just just chill out, broke. Yeah, And I'd love to
40:51
know how they're what would you call it oxygen system works, because it's like,
40:55
well, twelve hours, like four trips back and back you're doing you're
41:00
doing four twelve hour trips. Well, I don't know whether it was twelve
41:04
hours each way or like six hours each way for a total. I'm hoping
41:07
it was six hours each way, yeah, because I mean that's already like
41:09
a forty eight hour problem because they said it would take four, right,
41:13
Yeah, But then you're also doing four empty trips back. Yeah, yeah,
41:15
yeah, So wouldn't it have been quicker to, yeah, just cram
41:20
everybody on standing room only because you technically would use less oxygen and surely if
41:27
like I mean, maybe maybe the ship couldn't pump that much oxygen one hit
41:30
for that many people. But yeah, I just feel like the explanation wasn't
41:35
great. And how quick does it take to suck a bit of oxygen out
41:38
of the atmosphere when they get to Atlantis and drop everyone off. I guess
41:43
they're doing that from orbit, but hell they got asgard beaming technology. Yeah,
41:47
yeah, I don't know. I just like he was too quick to
41:51
tell them that there was absolutely no way that he can help, And I'm
41:53
like, dude, I feel like I feel like you just don't want to.
41:58
Yeah, plus plus one trip back to Atlantis, scoop up every single
42:01
puddle jumper they have, Yeah, they can hold like twenty people each.
42:06
Yeah, and that way they can just like stay in orbit, you know,
42:10
you know. And also like the fact that the deadals As were like
42:14
I was saying, wasn't It wasn't the bal end or solution. It gave
42:19
him a little bit of a help, but it didn't fix the problem,
42:22
So you could have them go back, not even make the life Like maybe
42:27
we need that so that we can't take everybody or go from being hundreds to
42:30
thousands. Yeah, right, so we'll take hundreds at a time. We
42:35
honestly, we logistically cannot fit thousands of people up here. We will take
42:37
as many as we can. Then, like you said, go back,
42:39
get the puddle jumpers, bring them back. We've already shown that the ship
42:43
the size of the Dadalus cannot fix the situation. To throw in two or
42:47
three puddle jumpers whatever they've got, that's clearly not going to help that much.
42:52
Have them bring back every piece of assistance and help that they can throw
42:55
out this problem and it's still not be enough. That just makes the tensions
43:00
and the threat I think even greater, because it's not like they're not trying
43:06
enough. Like I'm not saying this episode suffered because of that. I was
43:07
just like, it's just yet, in a perfect world where you've got even
43:12
at money, ifn at run time, you can do what if you want.
43:14
Because I feel like the other sort of thing we never got any resolution
43:16
too, was the till of the Huns group. Yeah, they left.
43:19
Yeah, they're dead. I don't know why we did that in terms like
43:22
it made sense, Like it made it feel real world that there's always going
43:25
to be a group of people that it's just like, no, when we
43:28
don't we're not going to do it. We're told me, yeah, no,
43:30
we don't believe you when you do it, fine, Yeah, but
43:32
there was no like I don't feel like Taylor felt like she was failing as
43:38
a as a person to like she was just like, no one was going
43:42
to stop that guy. Yeah, yeah, and to try and to actually
43:45
stop them would have sacrificed the help that you were giving everybody else. So
43:49
it's kind of like, yeah, the needs of the many out way the
43:51
needs of of well of all, I guess in some respects. So I
43:55
feel like the conversation Taylor and Ronan should have had while they were dying,
43:59
instead of being like, maybe we should have gone your way, would have
44:00
been like, I should have tried harder to stop those people, yeah or
44:04
something last, give me give that some resolution, and then building off what
44:08
you were saying before, imagine if yeah, there was on the other side
44:12
of the river, was the actual main settlement or whatever where there were the
44:15
thousands of people and this guy was going to go to that location because he
44:20
believed that he was going to get away. And then we end up saving
44:22
them later on. Yeah, h we saved the whole the whole group whatever.
44:27
And there's just a moment between Attila the harm and Taylor any kind of
44:30
acknowledges like, hey, you're right, you know, yeah, either that
44:34
or we do somehow have them. Yeah, like you said, we I
44:38
guess to have seen their dead bodies somewhere. You would have had to have
44:42
had Taylor and Ronan try on foot. But yeah, the fact that we
44:45
don't follow that up one thing we don't, like we don't need to as
44:49
an audience, but I feel like in story they probably should have. I
44:53
found it really strange that once Shephard and co. Piloted the Ryan, you
45:00
only named Ryan, which because I because I don't watch the episode enough,
45:05
I always think the name of the ship is the Inferno. Oh, you're
45:07
right, that would have been great. At the end, it's like,
45:12
what are we going to call it? Because it's not like they mentioned that
45:15
anywhere else, Like obviously that's just signify the volcano, of course, but
45:17
like, why not name it's something cool. Maybe it's got like burn marks
45:22
at the back of Yeah, obviously it's got a paint job. But once
45:27
they pilot that ship out and they make comes with the Dadalusts, so yeah,
45:34
we're all good. Everyone's good here, no problem. A couple of
45:37
other exchanges, sure, but then we cut two slash fade to Atlantis and
45:43
they're just sort of debriefing with one another. I'm like, hang on last
45:46
Shepherd New and McKay new. Taylor and Ronan didn't make it. They had
45:51
no idea that those guys had been picked up. Oh yeah, they like,
45:53
hey, we've we've lost contact with them. That we do. There's
45:57
and there was no way the deadalist was going to get back in time.
46:00
That's why they were rushing. Any focus seemed to shift on the idea of
46:02
that Taylor, Ronan and called well thought Shepherd and Rodney hat would destroy Yeah
46:08
when the volcano, Yeah, you're right, like, yeah, they were
46:13
up there, they were safe at that point. But I just I don't
46:15
know, I feel like any other time there would have just been a moment
46:20
for Shepherd to be like, hey, it's like, oh you got out
46:22
of hey, congratulations him. No, no, no, no, we've
46:23
got to go down. Hey, you don't understand Taylor and Ronan they're still
46:28
on the surface scan now and he's like, day, hey, hey,
46:30
whoaa, colonel, Colonel, Colonel, they're here. Don't worry, you
46:32
know. Like then another a secondary celebration right on the heels of the first
46:37
one. Yeah, well they do it like in SG one this last season
46:42
with the episode where the Prometheus got destroyed, and there was just that moment
46:45
that like Jackson and Sam take on the radio be like, hey, good
46:49
he voice you know. Yeah, there could have been a moment like where
46:53
after call Well says hey, we've got you, and then yeah, Shepherd
46:58
says, yeah, we're here and we've got a really big group here.
47:00
Instead of listening to the crew cheer yeah, like they're not professionals, I'm
47:06
just doing their job. He had Taylor to say we were worried about you.
47:09
John. He's like, Taylor, run it you guys, Oh my
47:12
god, you know exactly, yeah something like yeah, maybe they beat him
47:15
to it before he can, but I just yeah, I just found that
47:16
quite umb I think because as soon as he popped out, that's obviously what
47:21
he'll ask and that he didn't and I was just waiting for it's not even
47:23
that five or six seconds until they were all just debriefing in a room together
47:28
on Atlantis. It seemed like an eternity for me. But maybe he just
47:31
felt really comfy in that really awkward looking chair that he was sitting on the
47:36
bridge. Yeah, well, I mean it did. It did seem really
47:38
like that moment when they find it. It was like, holy shit,
47:42
we've got a ship now, Like we've got We've always had the dead list,
47:45
but that's we're borrowing that every couple of weeks. Now we've got our
47:47
own ship because no doubt we're going to find a way to make this ours.
47:52
Yeah, but slab using United States Air Force sticker on it, bang,
47:57
and it was McKay this time. They wanted to call it the Enterprise.
47:59
Yes, it's like he he and Jack are just like buddies. So
48:01
that's what I was I was trying to think. I'm like, was that
48:04
a previous reference of his or somebody else's, because this is the fact that
48:07
mckaywin that Shepherd said, no, we're not calling it the Enterprise, don't
48:10
even start on that. So um, but that moment where he goes and
48:14
sits in the chair and then Toddie mcblonde, He's like, go and sit
48:17
over there, and she goes and jumps in her own chair and I'm like,
48:21
oh shit, here we go. We're forming the team every chairs.
48:25
This is awesome. Again, I don't know where this is going. If
48:29
you like that, there's a great sci fi show I could introduce you to
48:31
if you like people on a bridge of a ship, Quantum Leap. Obviously
48:36
yeah, um yeah. So this is obviously the Oriyan is a reuse of
48:40
the Aurora set from a few weeks ago with the very important edition of the
48:45
chairs we was talking about. This is a redo of a ship called the
48:51
Aurora, which was another ancient ship that we had and it had no seats
49:00
and that was very disappointed about the nose seats. So I said, I
49:04
want seats and they said, well, we don't have seats, and of
49:06
course that's a bigcause money thing, right, So I said, yes,
49:08
we do have seats. The seats are in the puddle jumper. Take them
49:13
out and put them in front of these consoles. So again have seats.
49:15
And they said, yeah, but then it'll be how do you justify it
49:17
being a different ship? Why does it have seats And they see it's the
49:21
l E it's the Luxury Edition. It's got seats. I need some seats
49:29
and ashtrays, right, the couple holders, right, geez, give me
49:34
a break. Yeah, Okay, So on that just not that anything that
49:38
I said has me asking this question in particular. But so the Aurora,
49:44
that's that's that ship from Atlantis, right, Like that was the Atlantis version
49:47
of that ship. Like because I'm the this like a really really really really
49:52
deep underground and they find the Orion. Yeah, and I'm like, oh,
49:55
what does the Atlantis have this? Like Atlantis is the city, it's
49:59
the city of the the ancients, of the ancestors. What do they have
50:02
a cool ship? But I think they don't really get too into it.
50:06
But I'm pretty sure like the Aurora is so all sor the Orion is so
50:09
big it wouldn't fit inside. Atlantis doesn't have to fit inside of it,
50:15
Like are usually just under the water the water, parking outside and anchor it,
50:19
you know, tied up like a boat. I think it was just
50:21
there was a whole fleet, so none of them were specifically for Atlantis.
50:24
It was just there was just a fleet of them. Most of them been
50:28
destroyed. Um, the Aurora was damaged trying to return. The Orion was
50:32
obviously docked at some point in that little thing, so it just happened to
50:37
be there because there was that line too about we was like, well,
50:39
how come when we woke when we accidentally woke up the Aurora, we didn't
50:44
wake up the Orion And it was just like, oh, electromagnetic vieriance was
50:46
too far below the whatever whatever. So yeah, there's potentially more out there.
50:51
Yeah, but yeah, just the same class of ship. Yeah,
50:54
ok, yeah, yeah cool. Yeah. Well, like I said,
50:57
I don't I don't know where this is going, but I dare say it'll
51:00
come in handy because they're thinking, as the Shepherd said last week, we
51:04
need more. But I didn't want to get to Wow, the Orian such
51:07
a cool ship, and then you and Brennan go and we never see,
51:12
like why one thing I do love and I've said it before, but I
51:15
love it in these you know, the sci fi trope in a way.
51:21
You get these big ships, whether we're talking the Millennium Falcon or any other
51:28
big ship, and it's always every problem is fixed by opening up one panel,
51:35
you know, like they're taking hits, there's damaged, shields are down,
51:38
We're blown up the whole. It's like cool, pull out that drawer,
51:43
fix some wires, and we're all gravy. Baby, a bypass.
51:45
It's just a bypass, just a bypass somehow everything so like a faulty carb
51:51
carburetor. The orion is fucking massive. It's so big. How many football
51:55
fields long as they think it's so big? And McKay' is like, oh,
52:00
there's so many problems with it. Okay, I'll take my iPad in
52:01
there and I'll just like play around with some crystals up that one little and
52:06
pull out those two little weeks. So good. We're gonna fix the shield
52:08
so the larva doesn't melt us. I'm going to fix the hyperdrive just enough
52:13
to shoot us into orbit. I'm going to fix all the life support.
52:15
Every mate. We are fucking sweet, don't worry about it. We're good.
52:21
I'm like, man, that iPad is ahead of its time. That
52:23
one little panel underneath underneath the desk, because he was in our back.
52:30
They like that one scene. I would have been pissed off until I was
52:35
until I remembered that they had no idea how long until the eruption was going
52:39
to happen, like he had Hermia hermiad up on the deadals. He's like,
52:45
it's going to blow in like fifty two seconds. Yeah, and then
52:49
it cuts down to them and he's underneath the panel and he's like, oh
52:52
god, damn my fingernail. And then she's that was the first time that
52:55
signed us. What was her character name? I have no idea what was
52:59
the real Brandy Brandy? Where Brandy goes, oh, yeah, that can
53:04
really hurt. I'm even you're sick of his ship now, because up until
53:07
this point you're just so unhavid with his brain that you either saw past it
53:12
or just accepted it. Um. Now you're like, oh, dude,
53:16
stop making everything. And then you got up. He's like, who's got
53:20
some nail clipps? And then he got up and he was like whoah,
53:22
man, I just stood up too quick. And I'm like, dude,
53:25
you got forty seconds, like do you die? And then I'm yeah,
53:29
no, no, they don't know that. Yeah, because then later on
53:30
he goes insisted the chair and he's like, yeah, he could be any
53:32
room, this could happen anytime in thirty minutes, and I'm like, no,
53:37
dude, you've got about eighteen seconds. So yeah, No, I
53:40
really really liked this episode. It's fun, and we get that little last
53:45
minute think of like, oh the racer on their way again, just one
53:47
ship, and it's like it's not been this big thing that they drag out
53:51
over he like next next episode is yeah. So even just the idea,
53:57
I didn't think they would bring it up again end other than that first bit
54:01
maybe twelve minutes in where hey, there some issues in this planet and as
54:06
Alenka, what's going on? Whoever saw it and they're like, oh,
54:08
hey, our long range it's picked up a hive ship. Just one It's
54:14
like, yeah, how long three weeks? And I was thought, oh,
54:16
well done, because next week that's obviously going to be a bit of
54:20
a problem, and you don't want it just to have come out of nowhere
54:22
like two weeks ago or two episodes ago. At that point will be like,
54:25
hey, Michael, he's went and rejoined the Raith again. Oh he's
54:29
going to tell them about us. Nothing in the middle, and then all
54:31
of a sudden, oh they're here. What we had to because it's the
54:37
season finale. No, they're going to just drop that in a little bit
54:40
and then but towards the end, I was like, hey, guys,
54:42
just so you know, reset the chess pieces, all that shit's going on.
54:45
By the way, we've picked up this Raith ship, so apparently we'll
54:47
get into it more in the finale episode in a couple of weeks. But
54:52
yeah, apparently it was very last minute sort of addition because they were saying,
54:57
you know, the first half of the season was very much planned out
54:59
as the whole where's Forward, what's Forward doing whenever? And that kind of
55:02
finished with the boys in the hive. Yeah, and they were kind of
55:06
just doing fun ship at that point, and they went, oh, suddenly,
55:08
you know, all the writers were like, oh, what do we
55:10
what? Um got the finale in a couple of weeks. What are we
55:15
what are we doing already? What do we shit? What are we doing
55:17
for that? Um? And Yeah, so they kind of you know,
55:21
realized they could use the Michael staff and Okay, Michael's let the Wraith know
55:23
that they're there. So yeah, Aithy going to come and investigates what's going
55:27
on, you know, and yeah, give us our give us ol finale.
55:30
Yeah, wouldn't have been like if in episode episode like two imagine if
55:37
they would have had the foresight too off the back of the three episode you
55:43
carry over, you know, between season one and season two two have had
55:46
this mysterious guy wake up and heat and they're like, oh, yeah,
55:50
you're part of that team that just come back from Earth and blah blah blah,
55:52
oh and have a slow burn of like, yeah, don't even have
55:55
don't even features episode four or five were introduced to Admin the chick that like
56:00
swamp so I was went inside mackay, Yeah, something like that, like
56:06
recurring Ye, like, like I get that you don't have the ju You
56:07
would have had to have had the dual State episode a lot earlier. Yeah,
56:13
But at the same time, you imagine if they would have had that
56:15
and we would have had this this this guy just around and inunbelievable why we
56:20
we never seen him. Well he's just come off the dead list, like
56:22
Lawn. Imagine if like, yeah, so with the Lawn would have been
56:24
killed it had been Michael. Yeah, yeah, and it's like, oh,
56:28
by the way, he's a wraith. And then you're like then you're
56:30
looking at the whole season. They're going, yeah, can liars picking up
56:35
little little shady bits the whole way through. Yeah, yeah, that would
56:38
have been kind of cool. Now I hate this whole season you didn't have
56:43
that. Peter and Co. I'm sorry, Martin, I'm not sorry,
56:46
Martin Guiro, Martin would I'm sorry for you. Absolutely good Martin and one
56:52
the two. Yeah. Now, I did tease this for you at the
56:53
start of the episode when you're talking about the R word that we can't say,
56:57
yeah, this is this is this is the present for Brandon. But
56:59
he's not here. So so do you know you remember Mitch, Mitch from
57:01
the X Files. Mitch from the X Files. He's wonderful. And I
57:06
gotta tell you something, when i'm his age, if I look that good
57:09
in a unitard, just just give me a kiss. You not a unitard.
57:15
Well, but because it's got the word tart in it, it does
57:19
have the word tart in it. But you know, in this day and
57:21
age, I think we can we can say that and feel okay, they're
57:24
always about to apologize for them going well. In that day and age,
57:29
you probably could have said yeah, and it would have been fine. It's
57:31
fine. Two thousand and six, it's fine. See that's a sort of
57:36
that's a sort of comment and humor that they usually get on this podcast.
57:39
You say unitide, which is a fine word on its own. Yeah,
57:43
but then we make a thing out of it. Yeah, they would be
57:45
like, oh kid, kids in flame retarded. Yeah, onesies, It's
57:50
like, that's not the word. What color was we as? Belt?
57:52
Black? Oh? Well, why I gotta be black? I gotta be
57:55
black. I just said that. No, I wouldn't know. In fact,
57:58
we didn't absolutely. I mean, no one in this episode was black.
58:01
So that's fine. Well, I'm very much looking forward to Allies then,
58:09
because again, first time watcher and I'm heading into my second season Allies
58:15
that tan no no no, And at this point we're stuck with him for
58:22
a little at least a little while. We'll find him a planet or they
58:24
could have just you know, they could just be living in Atlantis um,
58:29
because you know they I like, they went through all that as well.
58:31
It's like, hey, look this shit, you you're not gonna be able
58:34
to get back to your planet for years. Okay, all your ship's going
58:36
to be dead. And luckily we've got three weeks to get the Orion up
58:38
and running. McCay's just gonna hop on. I love Actually that was one
58:44
thing before we go that Shepherd actually like to the camera but also to Brandy,
58:49
was just like, well, I mean McKay made the point. He's
58:52
like, are you trying to crush my ego to a point that I'm going
58:58
to want to fight back just to inflame my ego and get the problem solved
59:02
under Pressure's like, I would never do that. He's like, no,
59:05
this is what is actually as he pulled the lemon out of his jacket,
59:07
like I would never Hey, he's already started peeling this you want, pulls
59:14
his knife and starts peeling it and just dropping bits of lemon, just squeezing
59:19
it across the room, snake spitting it. Yeah. Fresh. I love
59:22
that. Yeah, I love that that they actually made fun of that,
59:25
because it's like, well, that's worked last week, works every other week
59:29
when they're not bringing up but the fact that they said to the audience,
59:31
hey, look, even the characters are aware this is what they need to
59:35
do to get and it's and it's that slow build, like you know,
59:37
I feel like McKay from SG one would not have been that self aware.
59:40
Yeah yeah, yeah, And so it's just that slow build of his character.
59:44
Yeah, understanding his flaws as a person, but then also finding the
59:51
benefits in that. Yeah, well, you know he's I'm a flawed person,
59:53
but when I'm when I'm at my worst, I'm at my best.
59:55
Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, becoming likable in his unlike ability.
1:00:00
Yeah. Well that's episode two hundred and twenty four of Get into Gate
1:00:06
next week. Like Maddie said earlier, we're talking the season finale. That's
1:00:07
the next two episode season finale time, guys. But of SG one that
1:00:12
comes first Camelots starring John Knoble starring well, I mean he features perhaps I
1:00:21
don't know, I haven't seen this episode in ten years, but I've certainly
1:00:22
seen him in a thumbnail for the episodes, and he looks like um,
1:00:30
was he Osborn? Does? Now he does? Does he look like Lincoln
1:00:35
Lewis's dad? Not really, but they certainly played father and son in a
1:00:37
film once, so yes, I mean he also played brothers to Brendon.
1:00:45
That's so say twas, Yeah, that's yeah, I saw that. I
1:00:47
could see that though. Really, Oh mate, I feel he's actual,
1:00:51
right, I know. And I met Brenton Thwaite not eight meters from Worth
1:00:54
Standing, and I said to him outside of the studio, come in for
1:00:57
an interview. And I said, mate, I'm Link Lewis's brother. And
1:01:00
because they did a show for those unaware called Slide great show. It wasn't
1:01:07
the actual theme song, but it should have been um Opportunity. And yeah,
1:01:09
he was the he was the lead star in it. And I know
1:01:13
he wasn't sorry. He was one of the main five, one of the
1:01:15
one of the core five. And Lincoln was his older brother. And and
1:01:21
I said to him, you look more like his brother than I do,
1:01:22
and I am his brother. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, I can
1:01:27
less. So now maybe I'd have to watch the show again. Maybe there
1:01:30
was something about Brenton Waite's like late teens, early twenties, I don't know.
1:01:35
Down yeah, But then some people see Lincoln and I and they go,
1:01:37
oh my god, absolutely brothers. I'm like, day put that on
1:01:39
him. Look at me. I mean, yeah, you've you've had a
1:01:44
glow up from you know, from yea early twenties to so now what do
1:01:49
you mean I feel like you're teenager? Yeah? Great. Then there was
1:01:52
this weird drop off where you had the shaggy hair. It was a weird.
1:01:55
Yeah, I definitely cared some awkward years in the middle of but I
1:02:00
always had the I always had like the like the bangs, I had the
1:02:04
Babe, I had the early Bible look like my whole life, but bieber
1:02:08
if if it was styled by the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz kind of
1:02:13
thing. Yeah, and then I well, I was gonna say I had
1:02:15
a stage where I thought I was one of the Beatles, like with my
1:02:17
hair, but now I actually grew that out for one of the world's greatest
1:02:20
shave events. But uh, and then I was bored for a little while
1:02:23
while I grew back. But I'm generally speaking, yeah, yeah, no,
1:02:27
no, fair enough, Like i'd like to think that, you know,
1:02:30
anything I've got going on now, either it's like it's done. Ironically,
1:02:34
we've embraced the scruff too. Yeah, the scruff. I'd happily every
1:02:37
time I actually clean shave, I go, I've got to do this all
1:02:40
the time. This is great. But then Sarah's like, I like it
1:02:45
with like, you know, a two two day growth on it, but
1:02:47
then two day growth gets lazy and it becomes a two week growth and then
1:02:51
a bitch a moment about it for three days until a fine time, and
1:02:53
then it's just you know, I get a haircut today and I haven't got
1:02:57
one for like, I don't know, two and a half months. Every
1:02:59
time I go there, I go, oh, i'll see in a fortnight.
1:03:00
Oh look god, no, I want to look like a cartoon character.
1:03:04
Bizarre. No, but look he's a good mate. I get it
1:03:07
real cheap, and that way, I would basically always look the same,
1:03:12
you know, I look like Bart Simpson not necessarily wear the same clothes every
1:03:15
time. When I used to work at the parents Hardware still, when I
1:03:17
was like, you know, early teens, I always knew when it was
1:03:20
tied for a haircut. When like the when I worked the register and like
1:03:23
the half Blight, all guys were coming to buy stuff. Would miss gender
1:03:27
me be like thanks love, I'm like, oh here's a bit. Oh
1:03:30
hello, now time for a haircut? Yes, well yeah, we're as
1:03:36
we said, we've all had mister. It's not just for the trans people.
1:03:37
We all get miss gender. That's it right, We're all the same,
1:03:40
Allie. Oh that's next week's episode. Get into Gate, Get into
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