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- 0:00Speaker 1: There's actually a review episode, and I had them watch
- 0:05Speaker 1: a review entitled Katrina Come Hell of High Water. It's
- 0:09Speaker 1: twenty twenty five documentary on Netflix by Spike Lee detailing
- 0:13Speaker 1: the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, starting from the storm and
- 0:18Speaker 1: seeing how the subjects of the initial documentary and the
- 0:22Speaker 1: city of New Orleans has fared in the twenty years
- 0:25Speaker 1: since Hurricane Katrina made land fall on August twenty ninth,
- 0:28Speaker 1: two thousand and five. I actually sat up one night
- 0:32Speaker 1: and watched all three episodes about three or four weeks ago.
- 0:35Speaker 1: I was a fan of You Know When the Levees Broke.
- 0:38Speaker 1: It's actually one of my favorite documentaries of all time.
- 0:40Speaker 1: I think it's definitely in my top like ten lists
- 0:42Speaker 1: of documentaries. I loved the way Spike Lee shot that documentary,
- 0:49Speaker 1: and it was good to see the people that he
- 0:52Speaker 1: kept up with or the people that he profiled in
- 0:58Speaker 1: the documentary, like Phyllis Monty and the LeBlanc who I
- 1:00Speaker 1: follow on TikTok now and I think the guy's name
- 1:03Speaker 1: is Sherman Shakespeare Alexander. He interviewed former Mayor of New
- 1:07Speaker 1: Orleans and head of the NAACP or and AACP as
- 1:10Speaker 1: they prefer to be card now called now Mark Morial.
- 1:13Speaker 1: I think I don't think they interviewed ray Nagan. They
- 1:16Speaker 1: interviewed Lieutenant General Russell Honorey, who was the general who
- 1:19Speaker 1: came in and help helped to restore some.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Orders, saying.
- 1:24Speaker 3: At all at all.
- 1:26Speaker 1: So, yeah, I want to hear what y'all thought of
- 1:32Speaker 1: the documentary Katrina. Come Hella high Water.
- 1:36Speaker 2: I'm going to keep the short and sweet. I'm pissed
- 1:38Speaker 2: off it has been at the time of the documentary
- 1:42Speaker 2: was made in twenty twenty five, so it had been
- 1:45Speaker 2: twenty years since the Katrina happened, and the fact that
- 1:52Speaker 2: they are still to some extent suffering from the after
- 1:58Speaker 2: the facts twenty plus years later says a lot about
- 2:01Speaker 2: how they treat black people, black people, poor people, and etcetera. Well,
- 2:13Speaker 2: it's the name of the housing project that they started
- 2:17Speaker 2: that was supposed to help.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Yeah, make it right by Brad pit Bread.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Kissed my ass because they gave them people the bad minimum.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Them people move into them houses trying to start over
- 2:31Speaker 2: and stuff, and they still hit a bunch of fucking
- 2:33Speaker 2: issues in them damn houses still had that. The one
- 2:36Speaker 2: lady said that she had still moved in in twenty
- 2:39Speaker 2: fifteen and had put at least twenty thousand dollars into
- 2:42Speaker 2: correcting stuff in their house. Yeah, if you gonna get
- 2:46Speaker 2: them people something, give them something moving ready that they
- 2:49Speaker 2: they trying to rebuild. They don't really have the money
- 2:51Speaker 2: to be doing all of that. And they had a
- 2:53Speaker 2: new day heat went out while they hit a new
- 2:54Speaker 2: boyn baby in the house. I will say that the
- 2:58Speaker 2: one person who got kudos during the whole documentary was
- 3:03Speaker 2: that that what's that guy? That army guy general, because
- 3:09Speaker 2: he wasn't paying this sh when he's walking around said
- 3:10Speaker 2: put them goddamn weapons down, put them down, put them
- 3:15Speaker 2: put it down, put them down, weapons down. I liked
- 3:18Speaker 2: him because he was about his business. He wasn't playing
- 3:20Speaker 2: this ship. You're not gonna come here and treat these
- 3:21Speaker 2: people like criminals. And all they trying to do is
- 3:23Speaker 2: is fucking survive and figure out what the hell they're
- 3:26Speaker 2: gonna lay there his But they're gonna eat it. They
- 3:28Speaker 2: ain't had baths and ship in a week. They walk
- 3:32Speaker 2: around here smelling like baduci and you pointing guns at
- 3:35Speaker 2: these folks they trying to survive and you treating them wrong.
- 3:38Speaker 2: That was bullshit, and my heat goes off to Windell
- 3:41Speaker 2: Pizs too. I appreciate it that he he he went
- 3:44Speaker 2: back and he did what he needed to do in
- 3:47Speaker 2: his uh and in his neighborhood. He didn't forget where
- 3:53Speaker 2: the hell he came from, and I appreciated that about him.
- 3:57Speaker 2: I also liked how they included folks who really was
- 4:00Speaker 2: there and went through this stuff and showing their lives
- 4:03Speaker 2: now what they went through, how they survived, and stuffing
- 4:05Speaker 2: like that. That one lady took the hell out of
- 4:07Speaker 2: me because she didn't get the call. What was her
- 4:09Speaker 2: damn name? His last name is like bat What her
- 4:12Speaker 2: name is like Baptista with the tista or something like that.
- 4:15Speaker 2: The one lady that kept cussing she had, not the one,
- 4:19Speaker 2: not the one with the head right, not her.
- 4:21Speaker 1: That the lady Philippontan, Phillips, Phillipspontan didn't have, she never
- 4:26Speaker 1: go to.
- 4:27Speaker 2: It was the the lighter skinned lady that hit her.
- 4:29Speaker 2: She took the ship out of me. I liked her.
- 4:32Speaker 2: What I will say is none of this surprised me.
- 4:35Speaker 2: And based on what they were showing us and how
- 4:37Speaker 2: this ship ended up happening, it you looked like they
- 4:40Speaker 2: blew them levies up the way it happened, how they
- 4:43Speaker 2: was fine. And next day it was just you know,
- 4:44Speaker 2: damnage trees knocked on people hearing the electricity and stuff.
- 4:47Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden boom and they flooded,
- 4:55Speaker 2: and his body's floating in the water, and y'all going
- 4:57Speaker 2: to the one lady said, they came and got my
- 4:59Speaker 2: white name, been left me here. It took them a
- 5:01Speaker 2: long time to come back and get me. They went
- 5:03Speaker 2: straight to him and got him first. They left our
- 5:06Speaker 2: families floating in this water.
- 5:08Speaker 3: They left.
- 5:08Speaker 2: They just listening to them people's story. I mean, I've
- 5:12Speaker 2: heard the story I contraded before. But something was different
- 5:15Speaker 2: about because as the sort of other documentary, but something
- 5:18Speaker 2: was different about this documentary. I don't know what it was.
- 5:24Speaker 2: I text Brandy yesterday and said, Brandon, fuck you, like
- 5:27Speaker 2: what the fuck?
- 5:28Speaker 3: I said?
- 5:28Speaker 2: My heart, yeah, my heart was broken for those people
- 5:35Speaker 2: and they did not deserve what they went through. That
- 5:39Speaker 2: one man who had to bury his mother and his granddaughter.
- 5:43Speaker 1: He detailed the story they made. They made it to
- 5:46Speaker 1: the roof of the house when the flood waters was
- 5:48Speaker 1: basically up to the up to.
- 5:49Speaker 3: The roofline of the house.
- 5:51Speaker 1: And when it got started getting the family, I think
- 5:53Speaker 1: they were in like a boat or a canoe or
- 5:54Speaker 1: something to get to the roof. His granddaughter fell off
- 5:57Speaker 1: the roof into the water. I think, you know, when they.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Were three years old.
- 6:01Speaker 1: First, when they were getting out of the wind, jumping
- 6:04Speaker 1: out of the window onto upper tree to get onto
- 6:06Speaker 1: the roof, his mother, who was maybe sixty or seventy
- 6:09Speaker 1: at the time, fell out the window into the water.
- 6:12Speaker 3: He was like, I can't work. That's my mother.
- 6:14Speaker 1: But I got these kids on the roof, and as
- 6:17Speaker 1: soon as he got his first granddaughter off, the second
- 6:19Speaker 1: one fell out the both or off the tree.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Yeah, it was sad. It was.
- 6:24Speaker 2: It was sad to say that a lot of them
- 6:26Speaker 2: people didn't never never did find in family. Some of
- 6:29Speaker 2: the people never did found in family members. You know,
- 6:32Speaker 2: they had the signs with the phone numbers and the
- 6:34Speaker 2: names and the people they were looking for and stuff.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Some of them luckily, like the one lady she ended
- 6:38Speaker 2: up being with her family in Texas. Oh you know,
- 6:41Speaker 2: she said she didn't seen him start walking towards her,
- 6:44Speaker 2: and she was like, oh my god, like she really
- 6:45Speaker 2: thought he was gone, Like I think it was her
- 6:47Speaker 2: brother or something like that.
- 6:49Speaker 1: But imagine like this heartbreaking, but imagine how it was
- 6:52Speaker 1: now Like nowadays, everybody has a cell phone, so you
- 6:54Speaker 1: can call people to see where they are.
- 6:56Speaker 3: You share your locations.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Because if you get somewhere where you can charge your
- 6:59Speaker 2: damn But.
- 7:02Speaker 4: But it's funny that you said that, because if we
- 7:04Speaker 4: had like the tiktoks and the instagrams, we would know,
- 7:07Speaker 4: like we wouldn't we us as dumb us, as dumb
- 7:10Speaker 4: as the public, we would have known what was really
- 7:12Speaker 4: going on. Right the thing Like one of the things
- 7:15Speaker 4: that kind of pissed me off was like it was
- 7:16Speaker 4: people that was trying to leave the city after you know,
- 7:19Speaker 4: at the after they don't filled up dumb after they
- 7:21Speaker 4: fiked up the super doll and then they filcked up
- 7:23Speaker 4: the convention center and then you got people trying to
- 7:25Speaker 4: leave the city and it's police officers guns drawn, like
- 7:29Speaker 4: turn back around around, go back, go back to the
- 7:31Speaker 4: and go back to the go back to the convention center.
- 7:34Speaker 5: And it's like.
- 7:38Speaker 2: It was crazy to get the fun out of here.
- 7:42Speaker 4: If I got out, niggas would know what's really going on.
- 7:44Speaker 4: And it's like if you know, you know what I'm saying.
- 7:47Speaker 4: And that was the thing, Like I think another thing
- 7:50Speaker 4: that pissed me off was the guy the white guy
- 7:52Speaker 4: asked as blacky the car, like you know. The dude
- 7:55Speaker 4: was like, it's the bus is coming, and he was
- 7:56Speaker 4: like like when you know when? And and the dude
- 7:59Speaker 4: just straight drove off on him when he saw them
- 8:01Speaker 4: when he asked like who was coming, and it's like
- 8:03Speaker 4: riding rolled off.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And it's like the lady was telling the story of
- 8:07Speaker 2: how bodies were in the hallways. She went in the bathroom,
- 8:10Speaker 2: was letting in the bedroom dead. They went outside. Man
- 8:13Speaker 2: sitting in his wheelchair. Did they just threw a blanket
- 8:15Speaker 2: over him? He just laying in the wheelchair. Did the
- 8:17Speaker 2: one guy laying on the ground just did they just
- 8:19Speaker 2: threw a blanket over him? They said, the smell out there,
- 8:22Speaker 2: it was crazy. It wasn't the smell of like braining right,
- 8:25Speaker 2: It was rotten. It was rotten bodies. It was that
- 8:28Speaker 2: he was the heat.
- 8:29Speaker 1: It was it was impressive heat in Louisiana and the
- 8:32Speaker 1: end of August, dead of summer wareness.
- 8:34Speaker 3: Now your degree human you have dead bodies and human.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Well all them people were dying from COVID and they
- 8:40Speaker 2: were putting the bodies in the back of picked the
- 8:42Speaker 2: big the big truck, refrigerated truck, refrigerated trucks, and then
- 8:45Speaker 2: they was running out of them. So some of them
- 8:47Speaker 2: wasn't in the refrigerated trucks. They was in the back
- 8:49Speaker 2: of sucking truck trailers like they didn't matter to nobody
- 8:51Speaker 2: like they It just showed that they didn't care.
- 8:55Speaker 4: But General Arnold said the realership the wheels and when
- 9:00Speaker 4: the lady was like as people come on people talking
- 9:03Speaker 4: about bodies, about bodies floating, like floating bodies and the like,
- 9:07Speaker 4: what are you gonna do about that?
- 9:08Speaker 5: He's like, Yo, what you want me to do? You
- 9:10Speaker 5: want me?
- 9:10Speaker 4: You want me to You want me to take these
- 9:12Speaker 4: troops and put them on and put them on put
- 9:15Speaker 4: them on the to help move that. He was like, Yo,
- 9:18Speaker 4: my my concern is people loving people.
- 9:21Speaker 2: I'm trying to get y'all somewhere asleep. I'm trying to
- 9:23Speaker 2: make sure y'all get y'all okay. I understand. I know
- 9:25Speaker 2: y'all looking for your families. I know all that this
- 9:27Speaker 2: is going on. And he wasn't being him. He wasn't
- 9:30Speaker 2: being insensitives. I didn't get that from him, him just saying, oh, well,
- 9:34Speaker 2: we gotta get there. He's like, we gotta prioritize these
- 9:37Speaker 2: folks that's alive. That's what I'm trying to do because
- 9:39Speaker 2: nobody else is probably for days, water and food hygiene,
- 9:45Speaker 2: nothing I'm not. I need to prioritize.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Yo.
- 9:47Speaker 2: I'm concerned about y'all. That I understood. I got there,
- 9:51Speaker 2: But it's the rest of the the motherfuckers who ain't
- 9:53Speaker 2: get fut none of that.
- 9:54Speaker 5: YO.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Bus stayed on vacation until.
- 9:59Speaker 3: He flew over and looked like Yo.
- 10:02Speaker 5: The governor then place Yo. That fissed me off.
- 10:05Speaker 4: Short, Like when she's talking about they are trained to
- 10:08Speaker 4: shoot and kill if they have to, and it's like, bitch.
- 10:11Speaker 2: The white people they got charge they talk about yeah, yeah,
- 10:13Speaker 2: they were Lloyd and they were doing it.
- 10:15Speaker 3: So the foss w on the on the East Bank.
- 10:18Speaker 2: And Saturady they shot him because they were black. They
- 10:21Speaker 2: seen somebody look like them that was doing They wouldn't
- 10:23Speaker 2: have done anything, but I'm like, oh, they need these things.
- 10:25Speaker 2: They need to get these things. We just went doing
- 10:27Speaker 2: didask but remember they were black. They shot at them.
- 10:29Speaker 1: People solid that O'Brien who who I think she retired from.
- 10:33Speaker 1: She didn't retired, I think she left seeing years later
- 10:35Speaker 1: she was seeing that question while it was going on,
- 10:38Speaker 1: she said, why do you have it or why is
- 10:40Speaker 1: the network of all these networks framing people in these
- 10:44Speaker 1: die situations calling.
- 10:46Speaker 3: It stealing and looting and Vandala call.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Them refugee refugee and that man said to them, they're
- 10:51Speaker 2: not refugees. They the citizens of this damn.
- 10:53Speaker 1: State, right, They're from the United States. They were left,
- 10:58Speaker 1: people were left, and a lot of it, I'll be honest,
- 11:01Speaker 1: A lot of it was on the federal government, like
- 11:04Speaker 1: the coord nation, lack of having.
- 11:06Speaker 3: A planning place, you know.
- 11:09Speaker 2: You know what's gonna happened.
- 11:11Speaker 4: I had to go jumping and shower and ship and
- 11:13Speaker 4: Kitty was like yo. I came back and she was like, yo,
- 11:15Speaker 4: they don't. They all don't like each other, like the government,
- 11:18Speaker 4: like like George Bush, don't like the lieutenant governor. Lieutenant
- 11:21Speaker 4: governor don't like the man. And it's like it's a
- 11:23Speaker 4: very and it's a breakdown.
- 11:24Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, it was.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Breakdown with the lieutenant governor at the time, say yeah,
- 11:30Speaker 2: Lieutenant comany that told I told my parents they needed
- 11:33Speaker 2: to go, and she said. The mother came back on
- 11:35Speaker 2: the phone and said, you Dady said, told the Lieutenant
- 11:37Speaker 2: governor to kiss his as I That tacked the hell
- 11:39Speaker 2: out of me. I'm sorry.
- 11:40Speaker 3: That is something that a.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Lot of people, A lot of them did that.
- 11:43Speaker 1: A lot of people because they survived Hurricane Betsy that
- 11:45Speaker 1: hit the area in nineteen sixty five. They said, I
- 11:47Speaker 1: survived Betsy, so I can survive Katina. A lot of
- 11:50Speaker 1: people who had family ofmbers that were begging them to leave, Yeah,
- 11:54Speaker 1: like refused to leave because the storm at the end
- 11:59Speaker 1: of the month got paid. They were like, we evacuated
- 12:02Speaker 1: for a storm that that was supposed to hit months
- 12:04Speaker 1: ago and either dried up or it downgraded quickly or
- 12:08Speaker 1: it passed them, so they didn't have the money to leave,
- 12:11Speaker 1: and where were they gonna go.
- 12:12Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm saying, I mean, I believe that it
- 12:16Speaker 4: could be like it could be like it could have
- 12:19Speaker 4: it could have been done like it could have been
- 12:21Speaker 4: done better. But you know, I don't necessarily know what
- 12:25Speaker 4: better is like in this, in this in this present moment.
- 12:28Speaker 4: But the first thing I was thinking about it is
- 12:30Speaker 4: it's like, yo, you got a lot, yo, y'all have
- 12:33Speaker 4: a public y'all got public transportation. You know, you already
- 12:37Speaker 4: know if you're doing a mass evacuation, everybody's gonna be
- 12:40Speaker 4: in that car, like everybody's gonna be in that cars.
- 12:42Speaker 4: But yoe, you also got to think about the people
- 12:43Speaker 4: who don't have a car, Like who don't have cars?
- 12:46Speaker 4: Like I'm like, oh, like I'm old lady, I'm an
- 12:48Speaker 4: old girl. Or who who's sun got killed? And it's like, yo,
- 12:51Speaker 4: she was like she she doesn't want she ain't had
- 12:53Speaker 4: no cars. She never drive, like you know, when she
- 12:57Speaker 4: when she moved to and when she moved out of state,
- 12:59Speaker 4: she was like she didn't have no way to get around,
- 13:01Speaker 4: no way to get around to do go do get around,
- 13:03Speaker 4: no way to get around to work or whatever. So
- 13:05Speaker 4: she came back home and then let's not even get
- 13:07Speaker 4: started on the coming back home whe where ship, you know,
- 13:10Speaker 4: shit got inflated like a motherfucker. Like she said, she
- 13:13Speaker 4: was paying six to fifty and they she came back
- 13:15Speaker 4: and they were talking about.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Dollars year. They took advantage of situations. At the end
- 13:21Speaker 2: of the day, I'm getting mad all over again.
- 13:25Speaker 1: I also remember the part where they were talking to
- 13:27Speaker 1: people who did evacuate, and these people spent hours on
- 13:30Speaker 1: the inner State to the point where they would run
- 13:32Speaker 1: out of gas and they would get to a gas
- 13:34Speaker 1: station to find out.
- 13:35Speaker 5: They don't have no gas. Yeah, and it's like, what
- 13:40Speaker 5: we're going.
- 13:41Speaker 2: What can you do?
- 13:42Speaker 1: Especially in those types of situations where you have millions
- 13:45Speaker 1: of people fleeing the area because of a coming storm
- 13:48Speaker 1: and everybody's trying to spread out and get away unless
- 13:50Speaker 1: you see the storm coming and leave a week early
- 13:53Speaker 1: or leave five six days before.
- 13:55Speaker 3: The storm ends.
- 13:56Speaker 5: That's another thing that that's another thing that pisses me.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Traffic ten twelve fourteen.
- 14:00Speaker 1: I was to go take a six hour drive to
- 14:01Speaker 1: Houston and go easter Jacksonville up the mobile or you know,
- 14:05Speaker 1: Atlanta or something, because.
- 14:06Speaker 5: That's the thing that pissed me off about about people
- 14:08Speaker 5: in general.
- 14:09Speaker 4: You know, like they they were talking about the ship,
- 14:12Speaker 4: they were talking about the possibility and while I understand
- 14:14Speaker 4: that we already did this before, so it's like I'm
- 14:17Speaker 4: not trying to do I ain't trying to waste no
- 14:18Speaker 4: money doing this again, and no, and shit don't happen,
- 14:21Speaker 4: but it's like it's better, it's better to waste that money.
- 14:23Speaker 4: Enough of happened and you prepared for the situation, then
- 14:26Speaker 4: you know, then then you know you need deep and
- 14:29Speaker 4: the ship and you know, we got what we got.
- 14:30Speaker 3: What happened.
- 14:31Speaker 4: And it's constantly, it's been constantly on the news, and
- 14:34Speaker 4: everybody says, it's been on the news.
- 14:37Speaker 5: We've been talking about it.
- 14:38Speaker 3: But you know, some people were some people they weren't
- 14:40Speaker 3: watching TV or the news was coming.
- 14:44Speaker 5: Yeah, we was living, like living life, like they.
- 14:46Speaker 1: Got what The musicians that we were practicing for a
- 14:48Speaker 1: big show that was gonna that was gonna come over
- 14:50Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend because the storm hit Labor Day weekend,
- 14:52Speaker 1: and they were like, well, we was practicing, We've been
- 14:55Speaker 1: in rehearsals for the past two weeks for a performance,
- 14:58Speaker 1: be doing so we didn't even know hurricane was coming
- 15:00Speaker 1: till the day before the storm.
- 15:01Speaker 4: Again, Yeah, I mean, yes, it was just I mean,
- 15:05Speaker 4: it was just crazy. I mean it's crazy how it
- 15:07Speaker 4: was like, how the shit happened. We damn we weren't
- 15:10Speaker 4: as like, yo, society was a prepair for that, that aftermath,
- 15:15Speaker 4: that level of aftermath and the old you know, the
- 15:19Speaker 4: man at the time, he had a good point. The
- 15:22Speaker 4: levee system was built in the nineteen like the early
- 15:26Speaker 4: nineteen hundreds when they had early nineteen hundreds problems.
- 15:29Speaker 5: Now you know, it wasn't that.
- 15:30Speaker 1: It was also not built built to built to specifications.
- 15:35Speaker 1: I reviewed a lot of the footage and stuff basically
- 15:38Speaker 1: the reason why the levees failed, and in several areas
- 15:42Speaker 1: the levees weren't built deep enough, like I think they
- 15:45Speaker 1: they tested pilings of how deep the levees were supposed
- 15:48Speaker 1: to go into the ground. I think to hit bed
- 15:51Speaker 1: rock to prevent them from failing. I think the purther
- 15:54Speaker 1: plans the levees were supposed to be buried seventeen feet underground.
- 15:58Speaker 1: They said the levees in some areas were ten eight,
- 16:01Speaker 1: ten twelve feet. They didn't reach full depth. So those
- 16:04Speaker 1: weak areas, especially when you have water is fucking heavy
- 16:08Speaker 1: and you have millions of gallons of water pressing against
- 16:11Speaker 1: it's gonna give way.
- 16:12Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, we was told. I was telling kid that ship.
- 16:15Speaker 5: I was like, you can't, you know, you can't, you can't.
- 16:20Speaker 4: You know, water is probably the one thing that you
- 16:22Speaker 4: can that you can't like control at all, like really control.
- 16:25Speaker 4: I mean, they're count to book the ship. Si, it's
- 16:29Speaker 4: even you know what I'm saying. It's either hey, like
- 16:31Speaker 4: you said, it's even too heavy, too much to listening,
- 16:36Speaker 4: or dangn shut crazy shit.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Bro. Oh it's all the same thing.
- 16:41Speaker 3: It's a reminder. But I say that she got like
- 16:43Speaker 3: sixteen things on our calendar every day. But yeah, book,
- 16:46Speaker 3: busy Bright. It was wild.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Also hearing the stories of the people who survived the
- 16:52Speaker 1: storm in their homes and decided to leave because either
- 16:56Speaker 1: their homes started the neighborhood started flooding, so they got
- 16:58Speaker 1: up before the floodwaters came to their door and they
- 17:00Speaker 1: went to after the storm passed, they went to the
- 17:03Speaker 1: super Dome or to the Convention Center and they would
- 17:05Speaker 1: stranded there for three or four days until health camp.
- 17:09Speaker 5: Yo.
- 17:09Speaker 4: That shit pissed me off some people for that nigga
- 17:11Speaker 4: to say he ain't like he just found out that
- 17:14Speaker 4: they went that they was going days without fucking days
- 17:17Speaker 4: without food or water, and it's like we just like
- 17:20Speaker 4: you're watching, you watching Mike Brown, look at them looking
- 17:23Speaker 4: at the screen, eyes blinking incompetent, like blinking period. Bro,
- 17:28Speaker 4: Like I mean, I know, I know we gave you,
- 17:30Speaker 4: I know we gave doctor fauci hell yo. But nigga,
- 17:33Speaker 4: you you was fucked up. You this ain't even your wheelhouse, nigga.
- 17:38Speaker 3: Like they said that he was horse.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Wrangler, a horse like a cattle cattle something in Texas
- 17:43Speaker 1: and George Bush made him femal director and when a
- 17:47Speaker 1: fucking federal emergency hit, he was woefully unprepared to deal
- 17:51Speaker 1: with something of that magnitude when you have to coordinate
- 17:54Speaker 1: with federal agencies and the governor and fucking lieutenant governor
- 17:58Speaker 1: and the mayor of New Orleans and all these people
- 18:00Speaker 1: are coming to you asking for help. Where the buses,
- 18:02Speaker 1: where's the food? Where's the bottle water that we need
- 18:05Speaker 1: to send down? Where's the USS comfort? Where's And you're like,
- 18:09Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know. If we
- 18:10Speaker 1: can't get there, I don't know what to do. We
- 18:12Speaker 1: can't get people in center on the right down. And
- 18:15Speaker 1: he was working from the fucking command center at the
- 18:17Speaker 1: state Capitol and Baton Rouge, and it's like they had
- 18:21Speaker 1: their General Hono Ray. I think he was a part
- 18:24Speaker 1: of a squadron. I don't think they weren't in Baton Rouge.
- 18:26Speaker 1: He was based somewhere else. He got airlifted via Apache
- 18:30Speaker 1: to Baton Rouge, and he said, no, I don't want
- 18:34Speaker 1: to go to fucking Baton Rouge to the command center.
- 18:35Speaker 1: I need to be on the ground, boost on the
- 18:37Speaker 1: ground so we can start making shit happen. Fuck that
- 18:40Speaker 1: desk at the command center. I'm trying to be where
- 18:43Speaker 1: the people are. Sorry, I'm trying to be where the
- 18:45Speaker 1: people are.
- 18:46Speaker 5: I mean, but that's because that's that was a Louisiana. Yeah,
- 18:50Speaker 5: like that's the thing.
- 18:52Speaker 1: But I just don't want to be in the fucking desk.
- 18:55Speaker 1: I need to be outside where the people else so
- 18:57Speaker 1: we can start making shit happen. Put them fucking weapons down.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Why you weap is drawing on these people? Put them
- 19:02Speaker 1: down and them soldiers was.
- 19:03Speaker 5: Like cause all ranked them and they already know you.
- 19:08Speaker 5: You know you break ranked.
- 19:09Speaker 3: That's it.
- 19:09Speaker 5: You know, that's on YouTube. You know that's that's court martial.
- 19:13Speaker 5: But I like, I fucked with him, and it's like,
- 19:16Speaker 5: I don't. I was telling you that, like, I don't fault.
- 19:19Speaker 5: I don't fault.
- 19:20Speaker 4: Don't fault the mayor at the time and the lieutenant
- 19:22Speaker 4: governor at the time, because it.
- 19:24Speaker 3: Was out he was in a boat quarter.
- 19:27Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, like, that's what I'm saying. These niggas,
- 19:30Speaker 5: these niggas was actually.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Down there, he said, I don't keep A'm a lieutenant governor.
- 19:34Speaker 1: I think from New Orleans, kids, people, my city, These
- 19:38Speaker 1: are my people. I'm going to rescue people from their houses.
- 19:41Speaker 5: These people need help.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:43Speaker 4: I can't sit around here waiting for the waiting for
- 19:45Speaker 4: the president to figure out what the funk he's going
- 19:47Speaker 4: to do.
- 19:47Speaker 2: He can't give a fuck. And then and then and
- 19:50Speaker 2: then in fact him, he didn't give a fun first.
- 19:52Speaker 4: Of all for him because his bitch as went to
- 19:53Speaker 4: fucking Mobile, Alabama, and they was like, no, the President
- 19:56Speaker 4: is just gonna fly over, fly over New Orleans.
- 19:59Speaker 5: It's not safe.
- 20:00Speaker 1: And it was like bitch, people were stranded on overpasses
- 20:04Speaker 1: for days and fucking sweltering, fucking human Louisiana swampy.
- 20:09Speaker 4: Yeah yo that yeah, like like the little babies out there,
- 20:14Speaker 4: like the babies out there and they they heat stroke,
- 20:17Speaker 4: you know, and and it's yeah, you I understand. We
- 20:21Speaker 4: weren't prepared for it, Like I understand, no coordination does
- 20:26Speaker 4: some you know, like like they.
- 20:29Speaker 2: But one hurricane, they knew that ship was coming.
- 20:33Speaker 1: But even still remember they said, when when the executives
- 20:38Speaker 1: or what the term is in Louisiana for parish parish
- 20:40Speaker 1: people who ously perishes. Here we have county executives, but
- 20:43Speaker 1: the parish mayors or whatever the term is, the executives
- 20:46Speaker 1: of these other parishes. They were like the governor, Governor
- 20:49Speaker 1: mikel said, send your school buses to New Orleans so
- 20:51Speaker 1: we can get these people out of there. They say,
- 20:53Speaker 1: sper buses. But they didn't send drivers. So y'all can
- 20:57Speaker 1: take the buses. But who's driving in the buses to
- 21:00Speaker 1: and from to New Orleans. From New Orleans to either
- 21:03Speaker 1: the Super the Astrodome in Houston or up to Baton
- 21:06Speaker 1: Rouge or to Tow Memphis or over to Atlanta.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Who's driving.
- 21:13Speaker 5: That shit? Crazy?
- 21:14Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 21:15Speaker 5: That shit fucking crazy. Yeah, it pissed me off. And
- 21:19Speaker 5: then it's like.
- 21:21Speaker 4: I appreciate Spike for bringing you know, bringing bringing us
- 21:24Speaker 4: ship to light, you know what I mean, bringing like
- 21:26Speaker 4: bringing USh it to light. And because like we needed,
- 21:30Speaker 4: you know, niggas needed TikTok and like TikTok and ship
- 21:33Speaker 4: like that, because you remember with the whole with the
- 21:35Speaker 4: whole ship overseas, you know, they was trying to band TikTok,
- 21:38Speaker 4: so we can't see like what's going on people ground
- 21:41Speaker 4: level telling, you know, telling what's really going on, and
- 21:45Speaker 4: it's like, yo, yeah, that was that was a disadvantage,
- 21:48Speaker 4: you know, like you know, like you said hindsight twenty twenty, Yeah,
- 21:51Speaker 4: that was a disadvantage that we that that back then
- 21:53Speaker 4: in two thousand and five, we was at a disadvantage.
- 21:56Speaker 5: We didn't have.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Social media, but that ship was happening. One people would
- 22:01Speaker 1: have because the all the phones have been dead by now.
- 22:03Speaker 1: If they was down there for three four days with
- 22:05Speaker 1: no water, no heat, no power, there would have been
- 22:07Speaker 1: no way for them to charge phones and tell the
- 22:08Speaker 1: communications devices.
- 22:09Speaker 3: To call people.
- 22:11Speaker 1: But to be able to have that first person perspective
- 22:14Speaker 1: to see somebody, We've been on the IT overpass right
- 22:16Speaker 1: off of Claybourne for the past three days. We ain't
- 22:18Speaker 1: got no water, we ain't got no food. We struggling.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Man where the buses that where?
- 22:22Speaker 3: To help at? Since somebody like you, a video like
- 22:25Speaker 3: that would have had millions and millions of view.
- 22:27Speaker 5: It raised awareness, raised awareness and promote help.
- 22:32Speaker 1: I always say, and this isn't to take away from
- 22:37Speaker 1: New Orleans, you know, New Orleans is one of my
- 22:38Speaker 1: favorite cities. I've been in New Orleans several times. I
- 22:42Speaker 1: all whenever I go to New Orleans, I feel like
- 22:44Speaker 1: it feels like home. It's like the people of the love,
- 22:47Speaker 1: the people of the culture. We are blessed to live
- 22:50Speaker 1: in the area we live in that we don't have
- 22:52Speaker 1: these major natural disasters that can come through, like an earthquake, hurricanes,
- 22:56Speaker 1: tornadoes and all the shit that, Like, I could not
- 22:59Speaker 1: have me having to flee my house because of a
- 23:02Speaker 1: storm coming just for that chance. But when I come
- 23:05Speaker 1: back a week later, my house would be down the
- 23:06Speaker 1: street at the school down the street on the football field,
- 23:11Speaker 1: flipped upside.
- 23:12Speaker 5: Down, you know, like I don't clean up. It's crazy.
- 23:15Speaker 3: And they would even to this day.
- 23:17Speaker 1: There are people I follow from New Orleans to talk
- 23:19Speaker 1: about when they went back the first time after training.
- 23:21Speaker 1: They talk about three four five months later, the smell
- 23:24Speaker 1: they talk about They remember the smell of the air
- 23:26Speaker 1: because it was so much death and mold and mildew
- 23:29Speaker 1: from just like dead trees and dead bodies that were
- 23:32Speaker 1: floating and they started to basically rop and decay, and
- 23:36Speaker 1: these people are buried in mud and houses.
- 23:38Speaker 3: It just smelled like death.
- 23:40Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 23:41Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine smelling that.
- 23:43Speaker 4: I can't imagine even being part of that ship, being there,
- 23:46Speaker 4: like you know, just being in that I mean, just
- 23:48Speaker 4: being in those places. I mean like even when we
- 23:52Speaker 4: used to have from these kids and we used had
- 23:54Speaker 4: like the tornado oners, yo, son, I be in the
- 23:56Speaker 4: bathroom praying my ass. I was like, please don't let
- 23:58Speaker 4: me know tornado here, Please don't let me know to
- 24:00Speaker 4: antle he hit us, you know, hit us, and you know,
- 24:04Speaker 4: and then it's like, yeah, it's it's it's a good thing.
- 24:08Speaker 4: The one thing I the one thing that I did
- 24:10Speaker 4: that I one of the one things I took away
- 24:12Speaker 4: from it is teaching go learn how to swim, y'all.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Y'all need to You need to know. You need to
- 24:21Speaker 4: learn how to swim. Take the kids, like, take the kids,
- 24:23Speaker 4: teach the kids how to swim, because that is a
- 24:25Speaker 4: life skill.
- 24:26Speaker 5: And you don't that you do not know that you
- 24:28Speaker 5: need until you need that ship, like that ship.
- 24:32Speaker 4: You know, Like when I when I was teaching swimming,
- 24:35Speaker 4: like I was passionate as fuck about that ship, especially
- 24:37Speaker 4: you know when I was in Georgia and floods, you
- 24:40Speaker 4: know down there, yo, depending on where you at.
- 24:42Speaker 5: The floods be crazy.
- 24:44Speaker 4: So it's like yeah, you yo, y'all like go learn
- 24:49Speaker 4: how to swim, Go take swim lessons, Take put your
- 24:51Speaker 4: kids in swimming, because that's you never know, that's gonna
- 24:54Speaker 4: be the thing to save your life.
- 24:56Speaker 2: So to wrap this up, the people of New Orleans,
- 25:04Speaker 2: specifically the people that were in the Lower knife Ward,
- 25:07Speaker 2: that were in the projects, that were in the what
- 25:10Speaker 2: was considered the poor areas, that were in the black areas,
- 25:13Speaker 2: they were done wrong. They were done wrong. They were
- 25:17Speaker 2: disregarded by almost everybody. Besides you know, the people who
- 25:24Speaker 2: were there who gave a damn and who had the
- 25:27Speaker 2: means to go and help them, help them out. To
- 25:33Speaker 2: still be recovering from something like this twenty years later,
- 25:38Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. So I wanted to send my condolences to
- 25:45Speaker 2: those who lost their families back during Hurricane Katrina. I
- 25:50Speaker 2: want to see my praise the strength to those who
- 25:52Speaker 2: survived it and who are still living with the after
- 25:56Speaker 2: effects and who are still rebuilding. And I want to
- 25:59Speaker 2: send a big fuck you to those who watched those
- 26:01Speaker 2: people suffering, didn't and.
- 26:03Speaker 3: Did nothing, or it took them forever to decide what
- 26:05Speaker 3: to do.
- 26:06Speaker 2: Did nothing. It's no excuse, it's no reason. You knew
- 26:09Speaker 2: what was going to happen. You know it was coming.
- 26:11Speaker 2: Whatever happened to disaster relief and all that other stuff.
- 26:14Speaker 2: You didn't do right by those folks, and it's fucked up.
- 26:16Speaker 2: It's really really fucked up, really fucked up. So yeah,
- 26:21Speaker 2: I don't got to worry about me watching that shit again.
- 26:24Speaker 2: That that took a toll on me yesterday. I had
- 26:25Speaker 2: to find something funny to watch yesterday because that that
- 26:28Speaker 2: was a lot.
- 26:30Speaker 5: That was a lot.
- 26:31Speaker 3: It was, that was a whole lot.
- 26:34Speaker 1: And thank you to Spike Spike Lee for coming back.
- 26:36Speaker 1: I think he did a separate documentary I forget the
- 26:38Speaker 1: name of it. That's between when the levees.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Broke and this one.
- 26:40Speaker 1: I think it came out five years Yeah, I think
- 26:43Speaker 1: it came out in twenty ten, twenty eleven.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't get a chance to see that one.
- 26:47Speaker 2: But at this point I can't watch nothing else. Yeah,
- 26:50Speaker 2: I mean that that shit is allbreaking. But one thing
- 26:52Speaker 2: Spike is gonna do. Spike gonna put that shit on
- 26:54Speaker 2: Front Street. Ye, She's always going to do that.
- 26:56Speaker 3: And like you said, sending love to people, in New Orleans.
- 26:58Speaker 3: Who and it's not just New Orleans with the.
- 26:59Speaker 1: Golf Coast that were afected by Hurricane Katrina, because it
- 27:02Speaker 1: wasn't just New Orleans. It was parts of like you know,
- 27:05Speaker 1: the Mississippi and Alabama, Alabama, parts of Texas that were affecting.
- 27:09Speaker 1: The places that were you know, they people went some
- 27:13Speaker 1: people never went back. And the lives of the way
- 27:16Speaker 1: you know elsewe yeah, they they poked them to in
- 27:19Speaker 1: the documentary where they were like, you know, we've been
- 27:21Speaker 1: in New Orleans our whole lives, for our whole lives.
- 27:23Speaker 3: I'm a teacher.
- 27:24Speaker 1: I make the salary working in New Orleans, but we
- 27:26Speaker 1: left because of the storm and now were living in Denver,
- 27:28Speaker 1: and I got a job that pays you made more money.
- 27:31Speaker 1: I got a salary, I got a nice house, my
- 27:34Speaker 1: kids in good schools. Why would I go back?
- 27:36Speaker 2: And so for some people it worked out. For others
- 27:39Speaker 2: they didn't have a choice, like those that who couldn't
- 27:41Speaker 2: get out there.
- 27:42Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, the shout out again to Spike Lee,
- 27:47Speaker 1: thank you for putting this documentary out. Maybe, like I said,
- 27:50Speaker 1: it was good to see you know, Philispontainne LeBlanc who
- 27:53Speaker 1: out like I said, I followed her on TikTok Now
- 27:55Speaker 1: and her sharing her journey.
- 27:57Speaker 3: It was fucking wild to see there. She shared of
- 28:00Speaker 3: her house when she.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Went back to her apartment, and to see the bubbles
- 28:04Speaker 1: of like the water that had been collecting in their
- 28:06Speaker 1: apartment above her and her husbands, like it.
- 28:08Speaker 3: Was just mold and it's stuff just everywhere.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Shelton Shakespeare, I think his name is Alexander, who ended
- 28:15Speaker 1: up moving to Houston with his son, and it was
- 28:17Speaker 1: good to see them too. And Wendell Pearce and caring
- 28:20Speaker 1: about how I remember from the original documentary he talked
- 28:23Speaker 1: about how his father, his parents had bought their home
- 28:26Speaker 1: and that I think it was Ponchatrain Park in New
- 28:28Speaker 1: Orleans and his father was like, what you mean the
- 28:31Speaker 1: homewn is insurance take gonna cover this.
- 28:33Speaker 3: I've been paying people for fifty years. They're not covering it.
- 28:36Speaker 2: Don't have flooding.
- 28:37Speaker 1: And they went through and window peers assembled a team
- 28:40Speaker 1: of people to go in and actually rebuild those homes
- 28:43Speaker 1: because there.
- 28:44Speaker 3: Was all black howners in their neighborhood.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like in these times, unfortunately a lot
- 28:51Speaker 1: of these regulations are paved, especially with airline industry when
- 28:56Speaker 1: it comes to emergency management. A lot of this shit
- 28:57Speaker 1: unfortunatelyst paved in blood. But the good thing is community
- 29:01Speaker 1: will show up, build your networks, make sure you're pouring
- 29:05Speaker 1: into people people pour into you. It always shows the
- 29:08Speaker 1: power of people when bad shit happens, because sometimes the
- 29:11Speaker 1: government is fucking slow to react to know what to do,
- 29:13Speaker 1: because it's like community will step up and say, we
- 29:16Speaker 1: got you. We're gonna make the ship happen. Let's get
- 29:18Speaker 1: the ship done so we can save as many people
- 29:20Speaker 1: as possible. So good, Thank you to Spike Lee again
- 29:24Speaker 1: for sharing this. It was good to see so many
- 29:26Speaker 1: people from the first documentary in this one. And yeah,
- 29:30Speaker 1: we're gonna have to pick up you might have to
- 29:31Speaker 1: pick a ratchet to the movie next because this was
- 29:33Speaker 1: I mean, I granted I picked this documentary, but you know,
- 29:37Speaker 1: shout out to y'all.
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- 29:44Speaker 3: Okay, well we don't have to because she just got
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- 30:49Speaker 3: Tried to steal my fucking thunder early. No, we didn't.
- 30:52Speaker 5: You didn't, you bitch nigga. You started it.
- 30:56Speaker 3: With that being said.
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