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Congresswoman_ A Foreign Country Killed Charlie Kirk & the FBI is Destroying Epstein Files · Gil I Am

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of questions as to whether there
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Speaker 1: was foreign government involvement in which one in the assassination
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Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk Right, So, like we're going to address
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Speaker 1: these theories right now. Back during the Ice Rights, do
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Speaker 1: you remember all of that at the beginning of the year,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people were like, where are all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden these big violent rights coming from? Who's funding
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Speaker 1: these organizations? We found out that there was a foreign
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Speaker 1: funding tie to an individual by the name of Nevill
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Speaker 1: Seeingham who's a multi billionaire, and he made his billions
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Speaker 1: by working with the communist Chinese government, and he would
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Speaker 1: take and he's not a registered agent, a foreign agent,
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Speaker 1: which is a foreign violation. So he's taking these millions
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Speaker 1: funneling it into organizations like the Party of Socialism and Liberation,
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Speaker 1: who then in turn create these very radicalized movements. But
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Speaker 1: they're not even American in theory or funded by American people.
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Speaker 1: They're actually formed funded by foreign governments. The irony in
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Speaker 1: all this is that Neville Seeingham not just to Mandani's election,
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Speaker 1: so like Jews from Mandani, but he actually also has
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Speaker 1: tie to funding the Party of Socialism, the Salt Lake
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Speaker 1: City Queer group, which is now being investigation, investigated with
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Speaker 1: former knowledge on whether or not they knew Charlie would
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Speaker 1: be assassinated, who had ties to the shooter. So I
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Speaker 1: do think that there's a foreign funding tie, but the
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Speaker 1: question is which government, and I think it's tied.
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Speaker 2: To the Chinese.
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Speaker 1: Interesting I mean Saltlake City Queer's Salt Lake City Queers.
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Speaker 1: They're being investigated by the FBI. But if you look
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Speaker 1: at the organization and where the funding comes from, I
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Speaker 1: mean not just them, they had ties to groups in
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Speaker 1: Cuba and they are actually calling themselves terrorists, but not
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Speaker 1: just that, they also have ties to the United Nations.
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Speaker 1: So there's this aspect of a very pro globalist and
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Speaker 1: then a pro Marxist movement to really so discord and
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Speaker 1: divide in this country. And that's why I recently posted
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Speaker 1: on my social media's like check out the bot farms
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Speaker 1: that actually exist. And we see all this shit talking
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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Make sure you're not arguing with the blot
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Speaker 1: because that's not like a fake thing. It happens. And
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Speaker 1: so we have to realize that social media is being
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Speaker 1: used to kind of stoke this. But in the instance
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Speaker 1: of the shooter, Charlie Kirk was almost like a son
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Speaker 1: to President Trump. Don Junior will tell you was like
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Speaker 1: his little brother right very close to Jadevans, very close
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Speaker 1: to Cashptel. So if you think for a second that
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Speaker 1: there will be any amount of resource spared in his investigation,
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Speaker 1: you're wrong, because I know these people, and I've seen
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Speaker 1: the way that this administration has worked towards at least
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Speaker 1: issuing some of the darkest secrets, for example, what happened
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Speaker 1: with CIA and the connection to JFK's assassination. I've met
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Speaker 1: with the director, but too, I think really take into
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Speaker 1: account that you have the family that is seeing all
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Speaker 1: this stuff out there right now. I hope that they
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Speaker 1: get every single person involved. I definitely think that it's
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Speaker 1: likely that more than one person knew about what was happening,
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Speaker 1: because the Salt Lake City Queer Group immediately did lead
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Speaker 1: to their page. They're under investigation. There's a Ford and
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Speaker 1: Funding tie there. For Tyler Robinson to say that Charlie
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Speaker 1: was hateful and that he just wanted to eliminate his hatefulness.
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Speaker 1: Where does that come from? Right? Like, if you actually
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Speaker 1: listen to the things that Charlie was saying, and you
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Speaker 1: don't clip it. You can realize it was a very
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Speaker 1: logical conversation that he was trying to have. If you
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Speaker 1: don't agree with its still not a reason to murder someone.
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Speaker 3: Right, Well, I think the problem is people have valid
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Speaker 3: questions about the narrative that was immediately projected out into
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Speaker 3: the media. That obviously if anyone with half of a
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Speaker 3: brain can see that there are massive holes in it.
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Speaker 3: There's big questions. There's the things like the discord thing
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Speaker 3: where Discord came out and like denied it. There's like
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Speaker 3: the well.
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Speaker 1: They're being suboena two by the way to go testify
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Speaker 1: before Congress, so they're going to be coming to test
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Speaker 1: Oversight Committee.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then like the way he wrote the messages,
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Speaker 3: which doesn't seem like something a twenty year old would write.
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Speaker 3: There's the whole history between him and his boyfriend, and
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Speaker 3: like the weird love letter he wrote to him detailing
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Speaker 3: everything he was going to do. There was the video
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Speaker 3: of him getting pulled over by the cops, which didn't
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Speaker 3: seem to like match up with the way he was
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Speaker 3: using his language. There the dairy queen casually getting an
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Speaker 3: ice cream. You know, if you're a sociopath, maybe that's
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Speaker 3: a normal thing. There's just so much, so many strange
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Speaker 3: things happening with I mean, even the guy the I
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Speaker 3: don't know. I've been following the whole Candae Owens thing.
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Speaker 3: I've been trying to follow. Have you pay attention to
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Speaker 3: what she's been doing.
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen too much of it.
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Speaker 3: So she's jopping these videos every day. They get five
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Speaker 3: million views in like twenty four hours. It's insane. And
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Speaker 3: she's talking to all these people that were involved in it,
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Speaker 3: politicians running around Utah, and they all have different stories.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's all super strange.
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Speaker 1: Well, the good news is that the trial should be public,
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Speaker 1: so that'll all come out in discovery.
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Speaker 3: That would be nice like that, which I'm a.
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Speaker 1: Huge fan, and just direct transparency. But you have to
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Speaker 1: understand too that there's an open investigation into this. So
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Speaker 1: if you have the FBI investigating Salt La City, Queer's
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Speaker 1: foreign funding ties, multiple people under investigation, they're not going
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Speaker 1: to be able to give that stuff immediately, but you
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Speaker 1: should be able to see it. And it's all good
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Speaker 1: to come out and discovery because they have a full
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Speaker 1: fledged trial, so I think a lot of those questions
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Speaker 1: will be answered.
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Speaker 2: But either which way. I mean, the reaction of a.
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Speaker 1: Group of people, even people in Washington, to the assassination
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Speaker 1: of another American was really disgusting to watch in real time,
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Speaker 1: And it was even more disgusting to see that people
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Speaker 1: instead of saying like, hey, this was like another American
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Speaker 1: that got shot, they're trying to justify it. And then
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Speaker 1: when people were basically held accountable to their employers, like, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is not like if you are representing a company, right,
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Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't be like saying, great, kill his wife next,
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Speaker 1: And that's what some people were saying. Actually worked with
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Speaker 1: some of these different social media companies, and I was like, hey,
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Speaker 1: there's photoshop images of children with blood splatter on their face,
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Speaker 1: saying Charlie's kids are next. Do you think that this
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Speaker 1: is against your terms and conditions? And I will say
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Speaker 1: to even the attorneys over at Blue Sky, which is
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Speaker 1: a left wing version of Twitter, they're like, this is
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Speaker 1: not what our platform is supposed to be used for.
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Speaker 1: And so when people violate the terms and conditions of usage,
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Speaker 1: we're going to delete the stuff. So that's not necessarily
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Speaker 1: cancel culture, that's just hey, you guys have terms and conditions.
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Speaker 1: You agree to and by the way, you probably shouldn't
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Speaker 1: be calling for the assassination of his children.
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Speaker 3: Right, totally. I totally agree with you on every.
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Speaker 2: It's like a very common sense thing, totally.
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Speaker 3: And the question is when it comes to free speech
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Speaker 3: online on these on these platforms, which are public utilities,
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Speaker 3: where do you draw the line?
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Speaker 1: You know, I think they have terms and conditions. I
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Speaker 1: actually sued Twitter one point zero and I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you know that, did you really?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: During my election, this is before it really became a
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Speaker 1: thing in twenty twenty with kicking Trump and deplatforming him.
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Speaker 1: So I was throttled on my engagement on x and
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Speaker 1: they were shadow banning me on Facebook as well, so
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Speaker 1: I couldn't actually get my message out there, even to
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Speaker 1: fundraise and all of that. And so this was in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty when I first ran, and so I had
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Speaker 1: sued them. And the thing is is that you so
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Speaker 1: social media is considered I consider it a public utility.
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Speaker 1: But there is stuff with Section two thirty that Congress
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Speaker 1: I don't think is ever going to want to reform
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Speaker 1: because a lot of people in Congress are owned by
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Speaker 1: some of these tech people, and it gives certain protections
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Speaker 1: to these tech companies. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: these companies, when you agree to use them, there are
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Speaker 1: still terms and conditions, right, Like you can't go into
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Speaker 1: a crowded theater and yell fire. So if you are
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Speaker 1: saying that, let's call, for example, the public assassination of
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Speaker 1: the president, you can't do that. You can't do that
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Speaker 1: because there are people that will actually engage in that act. Now,
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Speaker 1: there's a big difference between like what is considered hate speech,
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Speaker 1: and I think that that's a very slippery slope. So
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Speaker 1: terms and conditions what the company then puts out there
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Speaker 1: for if you use your app, then this is the
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Speaker 1: code of conduct you're expected with the company, way different
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Speaker 1: than you know, deeming something as hate speech and then
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Speaker 1: moving from that, which I would argue can be very
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Speaker 1: slippery slope.
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Speaker 2: Dystopian in Form.
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Speaker 3: Did you do any work on or have anything to
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Speaker 3: do with the push to release the Epstein files.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was the only member of Congress calling for
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Speaker 1: this back in January, and then people decided to make
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Speaker 1: it political. So I'm not going to use it to
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Speaker 1: smear the president. But yeah, I was actually very I
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Speaker 1: was very pleasantly surprised to see people all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden care about this until I realized they were trying
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Speaker 1: to smit the president with it.
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Speaker 3: What do you mean like all of a sudden care
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Speaker 3: about us?
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Speaker 2: So back in or, I think it was what made you?
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Speaker 3: What made Why were you the only one talking about
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Speaker 3: it in general?
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Speaker 2: Get to that.
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Speaker 1: So in November of last election cycle, there was a
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Speaker 1: Democrat senator that actually blocked Marshall blackburn Burns push to
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Speaker 1: release the Epstein flight logs. So that was remember Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden era blocks the release in the Senate, and she
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Speaker 1: was pushing for it. So then you saw the new
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Speaker 1: DJ come in. I had been pushing. I think it's
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Speaker 1: starting in January, so my task force would stood up.
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Speaker 1: It was January February time frame. My task force was
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Speaker 1: stood up, and this was part of our purview of jurisdiction,
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Speaker 1: but we don't hold declassification authority, so we basically wanted
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Speaker 1: to see if there's any ability for us to investigate
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Speaker 1: the files, so we kept calling for it publicly. Around
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Speaker 1: end of February time frame, I had become aware of
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Speaker 1: a whistleblower that came forward that was formerly at the
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Speaker 1: FB that was alleging destruction of evidence at the agency
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Speaker 1: under the former FBI director prior to Trump getting into office,
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Speaker 1: pertaining to, of all things, Jeffrey Epstein, among another other
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Speaker 1: bunch of.
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Speaker 3: Things, destruction of vidence of evidence.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was like, this is interesting. So I
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Speaker 1: actually introduced a piece of legislation in March that actually
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Speaker 1: was called I think it was the Stop the Shred Act.
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Speaker 1: You can pull up the Fox News article on it
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Speaker 1: and I reference it right then, and they're like, hey,
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Speaker 1: there's something shady happening at the FBI. Here's the person
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Speaker 1: that's doing it. I had actually reported it to the FBI,
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Speaker 1: and I was still calling publicly for the release of
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Speaker 1: the documents, and no one gave a shit. No one
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Speaker 1: gave a shit, and there was not one person that
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Speaker 1: was a Democrat that cared about it. And then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we started seeing them realize that you
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Speaker 1: could probably try to use this to smear the president.
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Speaker 1: What's been interesting is I have a paper trail leading
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Speaker 1: up to this. Not one person said anything all last Congress.
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Speaker 1: They didn't care about this. And then I actually take
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Speaker 1: this topic obviously very seriously, and I actually went into
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Speaker 1: the room with both Democrats and Republicans and the victims
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Speaker 1: and their attorneys that came to talk to Congress, and
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Speaker 1: they actually themselves said President Trump had nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with it. So the question I have is that you
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Speaker 1: had the Democrats incentive blocking this last cycle, then you
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Speaker 1: had them try to use it to smear the president.
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Speaker 1: They're up there with like these protesters had showed up
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Speaker 1: completely separately and unrelated to the press conference that they
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Speaker 1: were hosting on this, but with signs that were basically
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Speaker 1: alleging that President Trump had assaulted people. That's all political theater.
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Speaker 1: They don't really give a shit if you're telling me
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Speaker 1: that the same group of people care about victims. Yet
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Speaker 1: they did nothing when they were allowing literally Hispanic women
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Speaker 1: and children to be trafficked across the US in Mexico
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Speaker 1: border and they're like, no, please come on in, and
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Speaker 1: they did nothing about it. I think it's completely hypocritical. Sure,
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Speaker 1: now House Oversight, which I encouraged Chairman Comer to do this,
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad he did release information and documents. I
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Speaker 1: think it's to the tune of over thirty thousand documents,
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Speaker 1: which they should. There's no new information. There actually was
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Speaker 1: new information and by the way, I don't know any
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Speaker 1: member of Congress or investigator that's gone through all thirty
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Speaker 1: thousand documents and for people to say, well that was
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Speaker 1: public available really where you had to go physically to
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Speaker 1: court request the documents. It was nowhere housed online. So
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Speaker 1: we've been able to put that information out there. But
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Speaker 1: interesting to note there is currently an active lawsuit with
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Speaker 1: the victims and the banks that allowed for these transactions
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Speaker 1: to take place, and some of the perpetrators that were
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Speaker 1: involved in what happened with the trafficking, their attorneys have
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Speaker 1: contacted the victims attorneys to settle. So you have an
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Speaker 1: active lawsuit right now. So we can't tip the scales
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Speaker 1: of the lawsuit because that's using your position of influence
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Speaker 1: in illegal matter.
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Speaker 2: You can't do that. That's illegal.
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Speaker 1: So, yes, we want to find out who's involved, and
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Speaker 1: we want to note but to say that this is
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden done in the good heart and
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Speaker 1: good nature because you believe it should be released. Where
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Speaker 1: the hell were you back in January? Where are we
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Speaker 1: in February, March, in April for all of this stuff?
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Speaker 1: And then you see them to me, the president, and
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get behind that.
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Speaker 3: Yep, totally.
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Speaker 2: It's a but I think that actually shoul pull up
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Speaker 2: the shred act. It was a good one. I have
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Speaker 2: been a shread act on Google Fox News.
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Speaker 3: I was astonished at the response to the Epstein files
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Speaker 3: because it seemed to me like it finally seemed like
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Speaker 3: we had one topic that both the left and the
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Speaker 3: right could agree on. Right, we need to see the
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Speaker 3: frickin' Epstein files because it if you do any kind
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Speaker 3: of research into the guy, you can tell that he
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Speaker 3: is connected to both sides. There's one common denominator with
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Speaker 3: all the people that are attached to Jeffrey Epstein, and
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Speaker 3: that is super wealthy, powerful people. Whatever is in that
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Speaker 3: list or those files or whatever it is, without a
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Speaker 3: beyond a show of doubt, it's going to be the
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Speaker 3: Rosetta stone to all the most powerful people in the world.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, So check this out. So this is look at
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Speaker 1: the date March fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Okay, so I'm
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Speaker 1: like going public with this and I'm the only one
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Speaker 1: screaming from the roof touch. Now go down and read
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Speaker 1: about it. It even references down here. So this is
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Speaker 1: right after we were notified. Go up a little bit
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Speaker 1: that there was destruction of evidence under the former deputy
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Speaker 1: director at the FBI.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's Luna want federal agents caught destroying or concealing
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Speaker 3: government documents to be eligible for a life sentence in prison. Luna,
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Speaker 3: who is leading the task force on the declassification of
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Speaker 3: document of government records, is introducing a new bill called
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Speaker 3: Stopping High Level Record Elimination and Destruction Shred Act of
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. It would levy manatory sentence of twenty
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Speaker 3: years to life for any government official or employee the
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Speaker 3: Department of Justice, or anyone in a wider intelligence community
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Speaker 3: found to have concealed, removed, or mutilated federal records. According
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Speaker 3: to the bill text previewed by Fox News.
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Speaker 1: Digital, Wow, so you can go down and actually references
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Speaker 1: the conversation that I had with the whistleblower.
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Speaker 2: So go down blah blah blah. Oh, and this goes
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Speaker 2: to the Secret Service allegedly had destroyed documents with Kennedy.
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Speaker 2: So that's why it's referencing. Yeah, but yeah, you.
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Speaker 1: Can Benny Johnson reported whistleblower allegations with an FBI in
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Speaker 1: a bid to block Betel's work. And then if you
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Speaker 1: go down classified documents about Epstein title who pressure.
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Speaker 2: So like I reference all of it.
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Speaker 1: So all of that to say, I do think that
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Speaker 1: it's possible that information could have been destroyed and are planted,
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Speaker 1: And so that's when I think they're like, well, we're
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Speaker 1: going to release credible information and whatnot. But I also
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Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, so the one thing,
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Speaker 1: and I put out a tweet about this on my
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Speaker 1: ex platform because people wanted to know what the victims
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Speaker 1: had alleged in regards to foreign government ties, and so
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Speaker 1: the attorney spoke for the group and said that they
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Speaker 1: were made aware of foreign ties to Jeffrey Epstein specifically
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Speaker 1: had reference. Actually pull up the tweet, go to my
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Speaker 1: rep Luna account and type in just like on the
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Speaker 1: search and you can actually get the verbatim posting right there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: type in Epstein or like foreign ties and Epstein. See
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Speaker 1: if that works Epstein victims maybe yeah, see if.
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Speaker 2: It's on that good dumn Yeah hold on yeah, yeah
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Speaker 2: that was September fourth.
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Speaker 3: There we this is uh what is this from?
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Speaker 2: This is my ex account, my official account.
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Speaker 3: I mean, like, what are the what is this information from?
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Speaker 1: This is from the witnesses, This is from directly from
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Speaker 1: the witnesses. Their attorney got it.
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Speaker 2: Read that second paragraph.
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Speaker 3: In my opinion, there is definitely an intelligence connection. Countries
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Speaker 3: named by the lead attorneys for the witnesses included Saudi Arabia, Russia,
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Speaker 3: and Israel, as well as former CIA director referred to
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Speaker 3: be the CIA director under the Bush administration, based on
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Speaker 3: the attorney's description of interactions while Epstein was in work
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Speaker 3: in his work arrest program.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they named those countries. What's interesting is is that.
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Speaker 3: They forgot the He forgot England or the UK.
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Speaker 1: Well they didn't, that's they didn't reference that from what
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Speaker 1: the So that came directly from the witnesses in the attorney.
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Speaker 1: So this was specifically, though alleged who he had.
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Speaker 2: Worked with, right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So what's interesting about that though, is that this was
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Speaker 1: like I didn't see many people talking about what the
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Speaker 1: victims were telling us directly, And they did promise to
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Speaker 1: get us a list of names, but we have not
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Speaker 1: gotten that list of names yet. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: because there's a Penning lawsuit who promised the victims, they
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Speaker 1: promised to release the names of their perpetrators, but we
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Speaker 1: haven't gotten that list yet. And I think it's because
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Speaker 1: there's a pending.
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Speaker 3: Lawsuit, and that's why they're saying Jeffrey Epstein only traffic
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Speaker 3: to himself, he's a lone trafficker.
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Speaker 1: Well that's that would be a question for the victims, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know who they're going to have on the lists.
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Speaker 1: Everyone's asking for the lists, both Democrats and Republicans. Republicans
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Speaker 1: are like handed over if you have something. But again,
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Speaker 1: going back to the statements from the attorney, Yeah, their
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Speaker 1: clients are being contacted by these people that are allegedly involved,
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Speaker 1: so we're very careful to make sure that we don't
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Speaker 1: tip the scales of lawsuit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just so, it's just like held cluster fuck
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Speaker 3: of all of it is just like trans hurts my brain.
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Speaker 3: I just like it's it's like, look, it walks like
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Speaker 3: a duck, it quacks like a duck. It'srobably a fucking duck.
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Speaker 3: It's just like the JFK thing. If you ask everybody,
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Speaker 3: if you pull every American and ask him, do you
17:05
Speaker 3: think Lee Harvey Oswald was acting alone. On November twenty second,
17:08
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty three, ninety nine percent of people that are
17:11
Speaker 3: paying attention at least would say absolutely not.
17:13
Speaker 1: Well, and they're now vindicated with our findings because we
17:16
Speaker 1: have now testimony that he was shot from both the
17:18
Speaker 1: front and the back.
17:18
Speaker 2: There's multiple shooters and yeah.
17:20
Speaker 3: Right, anyone with two eyes can see that, right, Like
17:22
Speaker 3: it's the same thing with Jeffrey Epstein. Anybody with two
17:24
Speaker 3: eyes can tell you the.
17:25
Speaker 1: CIA at the time too, anyone that did question that
17:28
Speaker 1: they had people at the Washington posts that would discredit
17:30
Speaker 1: people they were threatening doctor's license if they went forward,
17:33
Speaker 1: that were actually in the operating room when Kennedy was
17:35
Speaker 1: brought there.
17:35
Speaker 2: So there's been a lot.
17:37
Speaker 1: I mean, you could talk about the intelligence influence in
17:41
Speaker 1: old media, which is now different because we have social media, right, Yeah.
17:46
Speaker 3: Like the Epstein stuff, Look, I'm not optimistic that none
17:49
Speaker 3: of any of the stuff's ever going to come out.
17:51
Speaker 3: Same thing with the Kennedy stuff.
17:52
Speaker 1: I'd well, Kennedy's stuff, We've gotten some pretty wild stuff.
17:56
Speaker 3: So yeah, literally, I mean the evidence is out right
17:58
Speaker 3: if you want to, like, if you want to find it,
18:00
Speaker 3: the documents have been have been uncovered and declassified if
18:04
Speaker 3: you actually we're.
18:05
Speaker 1: Still getting more documents though, because there's like this was
18:07
Speaker 1: decades of hidden information by the way, the Secret Service
18:10
Speaker 1: did destroy certain documents that they were told not to.
18:12
Speaker 2: Why would the Secret Service do that? Seems kind of shady.
18:16
Speaker 1: But there's still documents that we're still gathering, to include
18:18
Speaker 1: stuff that we're getting from the Presidential Library. So we're
18:20
Speaker 1: still and as soon as we get it, we upload
18:22
Speaker 1: it to the archives. But it's like, how many people
18:24
Speaker 1: are going to go through that? So we're doing it
18:26
Speaker 1: in the name of historical significance and transparency, but a
18:29
Speaker 1: lot of people just have moved past it because it's
18:31
Speaker 1: not a hot trending topic anymore.
18:33
Speaker 3: Have you ever talked to John Newman? He I think
18:37
Speaker 3: he's a professor at the University of Washington and I
18:41
Speaker 3: think that's the name of it in Washington, DC. And
18:44
Speaker 3: he is out of all of the JFK experts and
18:48
Speaker 3: authors I've talked to, I asked them like, I'm like,
18:51
Speaker 3: who's the top guy like that knows more about this
18:53
Speaker 3: stuff than anyone? And they all say John Newman, because
18:57
Speaker 3: he's the guy. All JFK authors they based their books
19:01
Speaker 3: on previous books, right, instead of going to the source,
19:05
Speaker 3: they just they read a bunch of other books and
19:07
Speaker 3: they compile their book. Right. They all base their books
19:10
Speaker 3: on this guy's work and this guy's books. John Newman,
19:14
Speaker 3: he has literally, like schizophrenically drawn out the map of
19:19
Speaker 3: everything that's happened. Yeah, it's always sudden me. And he's
19:22
Speaker 3: read every document.
19:24
Speaker 2: From forwards and background I interviewed.
19:27
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he was, uh yeah, yeah, he was for
19:29
Speaker 3: the first JFK film. He was a super advisor for.
19:32
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we work with Jeff Morley and it you
19:35
Speaker 2: know Jeff Morley.
19:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:36
Speaker 1: So Jeff Morley is like a Bernie Sanders republic Democrat. So,
19:40
Speaker 1: I mean, this is truly bipartisan, but they won't tell
19:43
Speaker 1: you that.
19:44
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's definitely by obviously it's by Parsons. And
19:48
Speaker 3: so the smoke. One of the biggest smoking gun that
19:52
Speaker 3: John Newman explained to me was that Oswald, a two
19:57
Speaker 3: time Russian defector Soviet defector, was on the parade route
20:03
Speaker 3: on November twenty second. He had like the highest level
20:08
Speaker 3: of FBI flash stops on his file. He had a
20:10
Speaker 3: CIA an active CIA file and an active FBI like
20:15
Speaker 3: observing him like on the on the threat list. He
20:18
Speaker 3: was at the top.
20:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're reading his mail. We have all that they.
20:20
Speaker 3: Were tracking him through through New Orleans, Dallas, Mexico, Mexico City,
20:26
Speaker 3: and they Newman got all of the all of the
20:31
Speaker 3: files on him, all of the cables that were going
20:33
Speaker 3: between the CIA desk in Langley between the CIA desk
20:37
Speaker 3: in Mexico City, and he has the evidence of all
20:40
Speaker 3: of them, and he has all the people who signed
20:42
Speaker 3: off on him. So there was one lady who was
20:45
Speaker 3: the the counter intelligence liaison for the CIA. Her name
20:48
Speaker 3: was Jane Roman, and she was still alive like maybe
20:52
Speaker 3: ten years ago, and I think Morley and Newman went
20:55
Speaker 3: to go visit this lady, Jane Roman, because there was
21:01
Speaker 3: all these files on one hand that were saying the
21:05
Speaker 3: FBI was monitoring him through New Orleans, YEP, and the
21:10
Speaker 3: FBI and the CIA through New Orleans, Dallas, and New Mexico.
21:14
Speaker 3: And then there was another CIA file after or I
21:20
Speaker 3: think it was maybe like a week before they shot
21:23
Speaker 3: the president, that was signed off by Jane Roman, the
21:26
Speaker 3: same lady who's signed the other ones, saying that we
21:30
Speaker 3: have no contact or no records of Lee Harvey Oswald
21:35
Speaker 3: since January of sixty two, which would when he was
21:40
Speaker 3: still in the Soviet Union. So they went up to
21:43
Speaker 3: her and they interviewed her. They say, look, why did
21:45
Speaker 3: you sign off on this saying that there was no
21:48
Speaker 3: contact with him or no records on him since sixty two,
21:52
Speaker 3: while over here there are these other records of him.
21:55
Speaker 3: You guys were following him up until the day shot
21:57
Speaker 3: the president. And she like stopped and grinned, and she said, obviously,
22:04
Speaker 3: this is obviously evidence of something about Lee Harvey Oswald
22:08
Speaker 3: that they wanted to keep very close to the best.
22:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:10
Speaker 1: So I actually went and met with the ambassador to
22:13
Speaker 1: Russia and his team. And what's interesting is when Lee
22:18
Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald went to Minsk, they actually had him under observation.
22:21
Speaker 1: They did a full psychological profile on him, and they
22:23
Speaker 1: thought he was a freakin kook. And they're like, so
22:25
Speaker 1: the Russian government at the time was very friendly with Kennedy.
22:28
Speaker 1: And I'll get into this in a second, because in
22:30
Speaker 1: the nineties, the investigative Body of Congress that was looking
22:33
Speaker 1: back into the JFK files after Oliver Stones movie tried
22:36
Speaker 1: to get these documents from the Russian government and they
22:39
Speaker 1: said no. So we've been the first delegation since the
22:41
Speaker 1: nineties to meet with the Russian government, which is separately crazy,
22:44
Speaker 1: like why have we waited that long to meet with
22:46
Speaker 1: another superpower. By the way, and this could go back
22:48
Speaker 1: into like twenty sixteen. The Russia coclusion thing was total nonsense.
22:52
Speaker 1: We know that for a fact, but look at how
22:53
Speaker 1: it's impacted and affected foreign policy. So this is something
22:56
Speaker 1: completely separate. So I met with them and they agreed
22:59
Speaker 1: to release these files publicly on their KGB findings. But
23:02
Speaker 1: they actually brought these documents to the American government. At
23:05
Speaker 1: Kennedy's funeral, the ambassador to Russia brought these documents saying
23:09
Speaker 1: this is who we think that actually did it, because
23:10
Speaker 1: they had these people under surveillance as well as like
23:13
Speaker 1: a hey, we want to be friends, like let's figure
23:15
Speaker 1: out who kill the president, and we never got this files.
23:18
Speaker 1: I think that the CIA destroyed them. And so all
23:20
Speaker 1: that to say that in the psychological profile that the
23:24
Speaker 1: Russian that the KGB put together on Oswald, they thought
23:26
Speaker 1: he was a kook.
23:27
Speaker 2: He was not a good shot.
23:28
Speaker 1: There's a famous story of him being under surveillance in Mince, Russia,
23:31
Speaker 1: and he tried to go hunting to feed his family
23:33
Speaker 1: and he couldn't shoot for shit, and so they're like,
23:35
Speaker 1: there's no way that this guy could actually pull the trigger.
23:38
Speaker 1: And then in addition that he showed up to the
23:39
Speaker 1: Russian embassy in Mexico City with a pistol and the
23:42
Speaker 1: head of the KGB was like, you're crazy, Like they
23:44
Speaker 1: thought he was just a fifty one to fifty in
23:46
Speaker 1: that job, right, So yeah, he was a patsy.
23:48
Speaker 3: Yeah. This so this was the uh, this was the
23:51
Speaker 3: text from John Newman that he basically wrote up the
23:53
Speaker 3: story about him and Jeff Morley went to visit Jane
23:56
Speaker 3: Roman and she signed off on the October ten, nineteen
23:59
Speaker 3: s three CIA HQs cable saying that the latest HQs whatever,
24:03
Speaker 3: I don't forget if that stands for headquarters maybe information
24:06
Speaker 3: on Oswald was dated to May sixty two. She replied, yeah,
24:09
Speaker 3: I'm signing off on something I know isn't true, And
24:11
Speaker 3: she asked what she thought about the false HQs cable
24:14
Speaker 3: from John Witten. She replied, to me, it's an indicative
24:17
Speaker 3: of a keen interest in Oswald held very closely on
24:20
Speaker 3: a need to know basis.
24:21
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, we recently two found out last week.
24:24
Speaker 2: I'll actually read this to you.
24:25
Speaker 1: So I actually went on with Morley to talk about
24:27
Speaker 1: this because this was a finding that was released in
24:29
Speaker 1: the JFK files.
24:31
Speaker 3: Pull up the cable, Steve, I think I sent you
24:35
Speaker 3: a photo of actual KAA.
24:36
Speaker 1: So this one actually broke on Monday. So this is
24:38
Speaker 1: on will Harvey's travel logs. So he uh yeah, So.
24:44
Speaker 2: Let me get through this hold on.
24:46
Speaker 1: So there was a CIA assassination program at the time
24:50
Speaker 1: known as ZR hyphen Rifle, and ultimately what they found
24:55
Speaker 1: out is that an individual by the name of Harvey
24:58
Speaker 1: had defied Kennedy during the Cuban missile crist in the
25:00
Speaker 1: fall of sixty two. Harvey was transferred to Rome in
25:03
Speaker 1: June of sixty three, and within two months after he
25:07
Speaker 1: was assigned to Rome, he had received authorization to covertly
25:10
Speaker 1: travel back.
25:11
Speaker 2: Into the United States.
25:12
Speaker 1: And it became apparent in this release of the document
25:15
Speaker 1: that the CI told the Church Committee in nineteen seventy
25:18
Speaker 1: five that Harvey did not use the alias William Walker
25:20
Speaker 1: after June nineteen sixty three, which we now know is
25:22
Speaker 1: completely false, and that the FAA, in supporting Harvey's secret
25:26
Speaker 1: travel in late nineteen sixty three, is entirely new on
25:29
Speaker 1: founding documents. So he basically used a fake name to
25:32
Speaker 1: travel back to the United States. Running a assassination program
25:35
Speaker 1: and just so happened to be here when Jeff It
25:39
Speaker 1: was assassinated. And this has been released, so we're still
25:42
Speaker 1: getting new documents, and this is just the length of
25:44
Speaker 1: time that it's taken for the Task Force and really
25:46
Speaker 1: more Lease Team to kind of go through all this.
25:48
Speaker 1: But all that to say, when I first started the
25:50
Speaker 1: Task Force, they thought that we were going to post
25:52
Speaker 1: a bunch of conspiracy theories. When I said that there
25:54
Speaker 1: was multiple shooters, they said that I was pushing conspiracy theories,
25:57
Speaker 1: and I was right, And so we're we're interested in
26:00
Speaker 1: facts and we can let the American people draw their
26:02
Speaker 1: own conclusions.
26:03
Speaker 3: Yep. It's uh, it's pretty crazy when you really dig
26:07
Speaker 3: into the I like to call them the boring details
26:10
Speaker 3: because it can be boring reading through.
26:11
Speaker 2: Some of these old Yeah.
26:12
Speaker 1: The director Radcliffe actually has a great perspective. He goes,
26:16
Speaker 1: I'm the new director, so whatever, since we're committed of
26:20
Speaker 1: past agencies, I'm not going to take responsibility for and
26:23
Speaker 1: I'll let the American people know the truth.
26:24
Speaker 2: And so he's been but does he have the power
26:26
Speaker 2: to let them marry Well, yeah.
26:27
Speaker 1: So previous previous directors even though presidents had authorized or
26:31
Speaker 1: release did not release the files. But we have Tulsi
26:34
Speaker 1: rat Tulsi Odie and I Radcliffe at the CIA and
26:37
Speaker 1: Patel at the FBI, so under their direction they can
26:40
Speaker 1: push for the authorized release of these files and not
26:42
Speaker 1: undermine the president. This was all previously stonewell. In fact,
26:45
Speaker 1: there was documents that came out and the Kennedy release
26:48
Speaker 1: that Biden had also tried to release and the National.
26:50
Speaker 2: Archives refused to release them.
26:51
Speaker 3: Really.
26:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's been a big push for this and
26:53
Speaker 1: we're going through We have the MLK hearing next, so
26:56
Speaker 1: we're going to be going through that working with some
26:58
Speaker 1: expert investigators.
27:00
Speaker 3: I think they're just gonna wait for everyone need to die.
27:02
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of people still alive once
27:04
Speaker 3: they're dead.
27:05
Speaker 1: Maybe they released the MLK files and they released the
27:07
Speaker 1: RFK files. We just haven't had a chance to fully
27:09
Speaker 1: go through this stuff yet, right.
27:11
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:11
Speaker 3: Have you ever spoken to Danny Sheehan. He's fascinating. He's
27:15
Speaker 3: a Harvard lawyer who was He worked on the Pentagon,
27:19
Speaker 3: the Pentagon papers, He worked the Pentagon papers thing all
27:23
Speaker 3: about the the the Watergate scandal.
27:28
Speaker 2: He oh, that's an interesting thing there.
27:30
Speaker 3: He uh, he look up all the cases. Danny Sheehan
27:34
Speaker 3: worked on a bunch of really famous cases. And he
27:38
Speaker 3: is like a galaxy brain on the whole UFO topic
27:41
Speaker 3: and the JFK topic. And I had him in here,
27:47
Speaker 3: we were talking about JFK. He was explaining to me
27:50
Speaker 3: basically how like the mob and the Yeah, let's get
27:56
Speaker 3: the Pentagon papers, the water Gagewood on UAPs, the Iran Oh,
28:01
Speaker 3: yeah he was. He was on the Iran Contra scal
28:04
Speaker 3: He deposed everyone in Iran Contra. He's like, yeah, he's og.
28:09
Speaker 3: He's a He's a legend when it comes to all
28:11
Speaker 3: this stuff. But you know, because he was around and
28:15
Speaker 3: deposing all these people during this time in the middle
28:18
Speaker 3: of the Cold War, he had like firsthand knowledge of
28:22
Speaker 3: all the people that are peripheral to the Kennedy assassination.
28:25
Speaker 3: And there's a lot and yeah, it's crazy how connected
28:29
Speaker 3: it all.
28:29
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of his work, I mean, he reminds me
28:32
Speaker 1: of George Naps at the UAP. Hearing George Napp is like, yeah,
28:35
Speaker 1: I smuggled these Soviet files on a program called Thread
28:38
Speaker 1: three that was looking into UAP's It was like a
28:40
Speaker 1: UAP Task Force because they had a lot of weird
28:42
Speaker 1: interactions in the Soviet era. And yeah, we're like, well,
28:45
Speaker 1: how the heck did you get these out of Soviet Rush.
28:47
Speaker 1: He's like, why, just ripped off the top paper and
28:49
Speaker 1: stuck them in my bag. Like you probably deserve to
28:51
Speaker 1: start Langley for that. I mean, like you weren't at
28:53
Speaker 1: the agency. But the fact that you're able to smuggle
28:55
Speaker 1: like Soviet era documents to you know, the United States
28:58
Speaker 1: pretty wild.
28:59
Speaker 3: But Danny was exploed selling to me how these anti
29:01
Speaker 3: Castro Cubans were working for the CIA and they were
29:08
Speaker 3: tied into the MOB as well. And basically when Kennedy
29:13
Speaker 3: did the Bay of Pigs thing and basically didn't send
29:15
Speaker 3: the air support and all that stuff, the Cubans despised him.
29:19
Speaker 3: They tried to They were training hit teams and he
29:21
Speaker 3: was calling them triangular hit teams. The CIA was in
29:24
Speaker 3: Miami to take out Castro and there was I forget
29:27
Speaker 3: the names of one of the guys who was in
29:30
Speaker 3: those triangular hit teams who was a Cuban dissident went
29:35
Speaker 3: into Cuba twice to try to assassinate Castro. They failed,
29:39
Speaker 3: and Danny was like, they basically used the same Cuban
29:43
Speaker 3: hit teams to assassinate the president, and he goes, these,
29:46
Speaker 3: I had evidence that these Cubans were there on the
29:49
Speaker 3: route in nineteen sixty three, and I was like, that's weird.
29:52
Speaker 3: I'm going to interview an ex CIA anti Castro Cuban
29:57
Speaker 3: guy who's like ninety five tomorrow. He goes, what was
30:00
Speaker 3: his name? I go, uh, Felix Rodriguez. He goes, oh,
30:04
Speaker 3: he was on that team. And I like.
30:06
Speaker 2: Almost, I almost.
30:09
Speaker 3: I didn't want to ask him.
30:10
Speaker 2: You should have totally asked.
30:11
Speaker 3: But I went in there. I went into his museum
30:13
Speaker 3: in Miami, and he had all these like Cuban armed
30:16
Speaker 3: commandos everywhere, and I was just like one guy had
30:19
Speaker 3: an office with a picture of Kennedy and like a
30:20
Speaker 3: strike through his face, and uh, yeah, it was crazy.
30:24
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people sought to benefit from
30:26
Speaker 1: his elimination. And so it's interesting because you know, obviously
30:30
Speaker 1: we're very you know, we also know that the Kennedy
30:34
Speaker 1: family is still around, so we want to be respectful
30:36
Speaker 1: of that, but also the American people deserve to know
30:39
Speaker 1: if there was a coup against the American people in
30:41
Speaker 1: the US government by an intelligence agency or people connected
30:43
Speaker 1: to an intelligence agency.
30:45
Speaker 3: Well, long story short. John Newman his overall theory on
30:51
Speaker 3: this whole thing is that it was a military coup.
30:53
Speaker 3: He thinks it was the Joint chiefs of Staff who
30:55
Speaker 3: wanted like an all out nuclear war with China and Russia.
30:58
Speaker 1: Oh, they definitely. What I can tell you is from
30:59
Speaker 1: the perspective the CID not And this is just based
31:04
Speaker 1: on the documentation that we've also gotten from the release
31:06
Speaker 1: of the files. There are certain actors within the CIA
31:10
Speaker 1: that did not like that Kennedy was so openly friendly
31:14
Speaker 1: with the Russian government, and I think that they viewed
31:16
Speaker 1: him as a communist sympathizer, and he did not have
31:19
Speaker 1: his cabinet with supporters and his own vice president at
31:22
Speaker 1: the time, I believe was seriously undermining his efforts. So
31:26
Speaker 1: he had his brother. But then they killed his brother too,
31:28
Speaker 1: So would they turn a blind eye if they knew
31:31
Speaker 1: about an assassination attempt? Probably because they looked at him
31:34
Speaker 1: as a sympathizer. He also was at the time working
31:36
Speaker 1: on a joint He wanted to do a joint mission
31:39
Speaker 1: with the Russian government and American astronauts to the Moon.
31:42
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that. And so he
31:44
Speaker 1: was very very friendly with the Russian government and was
31:46
Speaker 1: back channeling communications even despite what the CI was trying
31:49
Speaker 1: to push in BAF pigs and all that, because they
31:50
Speaker 1: did want war. And then the day after Kennedy was assassinated,
31:54
Speaker 1: did we sign ourselves up for Vietnam?
31:56
Speaker 3: Ye? Yeah, there's these psyop meetings, not pa yop. It's
32:00
Speaker 3: called I think it's like s ciop meetings. I forget
32:03
Speaker 3: what it stands for. But there was there was these
32:04
Speaker 3: meetings that him and RFK were both in where the
32:07
Speaker 3: joint chiefs Limitzer and Maxwell Taylor had this crazy plan
32:10
Speaker 3: because that was the point in history where we had
32:13
Speaker 3: the most nukes and so you had the least amount
32:15
Speaker 3: of nukes like that was when they first started to
32:17
Speaker 3: build up their arsenal. So we thought we could get
32:19
Speaker 3: away with just nuking half the planet and getting not
32:23
Speaker 3: the nuke.
32:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:26
Speaker 3: And then he was obviously back channeling with the Russian
32:29
Speaker 3: president and and trying to stop all that. And then
32:33
Speaker 3: you know, obviously like the CIA was involved, a lot
32:36
Speaker 3: of people like to say the CIA killed him, but
32:38
Speaker 3: John's theory is just like the CIA, there was there's
32:40
Speaker 3: certain elements of the CIA who were involved in the
32:43
Speaker 3: cover up exactly.
32:44
Speaker 1: So definitely certain factions involved in the cover up. Obviously,
32:47
Speaker 1: you can't bake it label an organization. However, the CIAS
32:51
Speaker 1: did some interesting stuff, and I think when you look
32:53
Speaker 1: at some of the declassified files on their reading room
32:56
Speaker 1: dot gov website, you can see for yourself it looked
32:59
Speaker 1: very wellies on a Friday night, really, like even just
33:03
Speaker 1: on the topic of ice raids or immigration, Barack Obama
33:08
Speaker 1: was known as the deporter in chief and Jill Joe
33:11
Speaker 1: Biden put kids in connex boxes. Everyone forgets about that.
33:15
Speaker 1: Right prior to getting elected, you had Hillary Clinton that
33:18
Speaker 1: had the same perspective and Chuck Schumer on illegal immigration.
33:21
Speaker 1: And yet all of a sudden you have Republicans or
33:24
Speaker 1: conservatives or people that want strong even moderates.
33:27
Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton was maga as hell.
33:29
Speaker 1: In the yes, she's like she's like based one on
33:31
Speaker 1: one in the nineties. What happened is it bad for
33:33
Speaker 1: fundraising for the Clinton Foundation.
33:35
Speaker 3: We watched this clip of her talking about deporting and
33:37
Speaker 3: legals from like ninety eight or something like that.
33:40
Speaker 1: She would be the face of maga. She would she
33:42
Speaker 1: really would be, Which is the irony and all this.
33:45
Speaker 1: I actually was just on a documentary on the fourteenth
33:47
Speaker 1: Amendment with Netflix and we were talking about this, and
33:49
Speaker 1: I'm like, these are the same perspectives, Like the Republican
33:52
Speaker 1: Party hasn't shifted perspective on their.
33:55
Speaker 2: Perspective on immigration, the.
33:57
Speaker 1: Democrat Party has, like they literally so not in all
34:00
Speaker 1: get into the specifics of this. So when I started
34:02
Speaker 1: to get politically involved in active like really twenty eighteen,
34:05
Speaker 1: but you can see in twenty sixteen, Democrats and Republicans
34:09
Speaker 1: for the most part had a very strong perspective and
34:12
Speaker 1: standpoint is tail end of Obama administration right on illegal immigration.
34:17
Speaker 1: Obama said don't come here, okay. He literally is on
34:19
Speaker 1: record saying that.
34:20
Speaker 3: Yep.
34:21
Speaker 1: Then you have in twenty sixteen the start of outpacing
34:25
Speaker 1: of the black minority community by the Hispanic American minority community.
34:29
Speaker 1: And not just any Hispanic minority, it's specifically Americans of
34:33
Speaker 1: Mexican descent. So why all of a sudden in twenty sixteen,
34:36
Speaker 1: with the rise of Hispanic Americans now being the largest
34:39
Speaker 1: voting minority, do you have a shift in the talking
34:41
Speaker 1: points from Black Americans to now Hispanic Americans and specifically
34:45
Speaker 1: on immigration. What could possibly cause that? Well, it was
34:48
Speaker 1: because they are trying to target the voting minority block
34:50
Speaker 1: for election purposes. What they didn't realize is that Hispanic Americans,
34:54
Speaker 1: specifically Mexican Americans, actually largely voted in favor of President
34:57
Speaker 1: Trump's platform because they don't want illegal immigran So it's backfired.
35:01
Speaker 1: But you see this special Cubans, the Cubans especially, but
35:05
Speaker 1: specifically they're targeting the largest voting minority in history. So
35:08
Speaker 1: why do you think we saw Nevill Singham funding the
35:10
Speaker 1: Timu rights which is what I call the rights in
35:12
Speaker 1: La on Ice. They were literally passing out Mexican flax,
35:16
Speaker 1: brand new Mexican flax. Why just the Mexican flag. Why
35:19
Speaker 1: not the Honduran flag or a Salvadorian flag or the
35:21
Speaker 1: Cuban Why specifically that flag? And it was because they
35:24
Speaker 1: wanted to create to create the optics to resonate with
35:26
Speaker 1: a voting base where you now have people that are
35:28
Speaker 1: of Mexican descent saying, oh, you know they're deporting my people.
35:31
Speaker 2: Bullshit, they're deporting sex offenders. Are your people?
35:33
Speaker 1: Sex offenders and child molesters and rapists? Last time I checked.
35:38
Speaker 1: I'm American, But I don't know that shit.
35:39
Speaker 2: Deport them.
35:40
Speaker 1: I don't want them here. In fact, I don't even
35:41
Speaker 1: know why we're deporting them. I think that they should.
35:43
Speaker 1: If you are victimizing children like that, especially, why deport
35:46
Speaker 1: them capital punishment all the way. Like, I do not
35:49
Speaker 1: think that people like that can be rehabilitated, and I
35:50
Speaker 1: think that they're very bad people. This gets into the
35:53
Speaker 1: whole argument of due process. Due process applies to American citizens.
35:59
Speaker 1: Just because you here illegally does not believe or does
36:02
Speaker 1: not guarantee you do process because you're not a US citizen.
36:05
Speaker 1: So fine, deport them. But in general, these people for
36:09
Speaker 1: them to exploit, specifically because of polling to target for elections,
36:16
Speaker 1: they don't actually care who's hurting the process. They just
36:19
Speaker 1: care about getting elected. And that's what this is really about.
36:22
Speaker 1: I remember in I think it was twenty eighteen, and
36:27
Speaker 1: I don't personally agree with a pathway to citizenship for DACA, okay,
36:32
Speaker 1: but President Trump had a plan that he presented to
36:35
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi on DAKA, and she did not take the plan. Remember,
36:38
Speaker 1: Barack Obama created DACA. I think that they created it
36:41
Speaker 1: to create a What does your stand for deferred action. Okay, yeah,
36:47
Speaker 1: can you look at the full kaka. But it was
36:51
Speaker 1: created by Barack Obama at that famous Rose Garden ceremony.
36:55
Speaker 1: I believe that was done not as a solution, but
36:58
Speaker 1: as a foreshadow gioing future political talking point and leverage
37:02
Speaker 1: point for that demographic because they sought that point in
37:05
Speaker 1: time the rise of Hispanic Americans as a targeting voting minority,
37:08
Speaker 1: and it's all about controlling the election cycle and the voters.
37:12
Speaker 1: So Pelosi, the Democrats actually at that point in time,
37:15
Speaker 1: and she was largely protested because of it, they actually
37:18
Speaker 1: did not do anything about it. So immigration has been
37:20
Speaker 1: one of those things in Congress that both sides benefit
37:23
Speaker 1: from the division on it, both sides fundraise. I don't
37:27
Speaker 1: think they'll ever actually provide a solution for it, because
37:31
Speaker 1: that's they benefit from it. But that's the truth because
37:33
Speaker 1: they've had multiple options too and they didn't. Then you
37:36
Speaker 1: have on my side where you have Republicans that represent
37:39
Speaker 1: large agriculture communities that don't want everify that would actually
37:42
Speaker 1: force farmers to actually hire American citizens because it's cheaper
37:46
Speaker 1: for them to hire legals. But then they're also hiring
37:49
Speaker 1: children and so hiring children, that's not hiring child that's
37:53
Speaker 1: slave labor. When you hire a sixteen year old, you know,
37:56
Speaker 1: fourteen year old Tyson. Chicken farm got busted on that
37:58
Speaker 1: kid lost his arm in one of their meat processing facilities.
38:01
Speaker 2: But it was like a why as a hole as
38:02
Speaker 2: a kid like fourteen or fifteen, And you can look
38:05
Speaker 2: up that article.
38:06
Speaker 1: But the point is is that this has been very
38:09
Speaker 1: frustrating because the system, because of decades of this mentality,
38:15
Speaker 1: is broken. So the only way to actually fix the
38:18
Speaker 1: system is to put a temporary pause in the immigration
38:22
Speaker 1: process and let it catch up for people that are
38:24
Speaker 1: trying to come here legally, which, by the way, my
38:27
Speaker 1: office handles a lot of cases for people that are
38:29
Speaker 1: trying to do it the right way, and it can
38:31
Speaker 1: take sometimes up to twenty years for people now because
38:33
Speaker 1: of how bogged down the system is because there's not
38:35
Speaker 1: enough judges, attorneys, all of the illegals.
38:37
Speaker 2: That came in are taking away resources, time.
38:39
Speaker 1: Court appointments, all of that. They're not actually waiting in line.
38:42
Speaker 1: They're breaking the lawn coming here and they're essentially trying
38:45
Speaker 1: to cut the line and doing what they're doing, and
38:46
Speaker 1: that's not fair and so you put a pause, you
38:48
Speaker 1: let the system catch up to port the illegals, and
38:50
Speaker 1: if people want to come here the right way, do
38:51
Speaker 1: it the right way. But you can't cut the line
38:53
Speaker 1: and you can't just show up and expect us to
38:55
Speaker 1: roll out the red carpet for you.
38:56
Speaker 3: And the cartels are making money handover fits, trafficking people.
38:59
Speaker 1: Well now they haven't, right, so, like we've seen a
39:01
Speaker 1: decline in the number of illegals coming here. But during
39:06
Speaker 1: the Joe Biden Kamala Harrison administration when they were running
39:09
Speaker 1: on this stuff, absolutely they were making a killing and
39:11
Speaker 1: they're killing people in the process.
39:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a and.
39:16
Speaker 1: By the way, there's there's like separately aside from like
39:19
Speaker 1: the Hispanic voting block issue and targeting for of politics,
39:24
Speaker 1: they literally were letting in terrorists, like multiple members of
39:28
Speaker 1: the known terrorist watch list were released into US territory. Yeah,
39:32
Speaker 1: which is wild that they allowed that to happen.
39:35
Speaker 3: The best immigration policy that I think made the most
39:39
Speaker 3: sense that I've ever heard of was I came out
39:42
Speaker 3: right before nine to eleven, I think. And when nine
39:45
Speaker 3: to eleven happened, like the whole thing just got exploded
39:48
Speaker 3: and it never happened and I think it was the basis. Basically,
39:52
Speaker 3: what it was was that Mexicans could come across the
39:57
Speaker 3: border legally to work, and they would they would able
40:01
Speaker 3: to they would have to spend at least six months
40:04
Speaker 3: of the year in Mexico so they could come here,
40:07
Speaker 3: they could work for six months, they would always have
40:09
Speaker 3: to pay taxes and all that stuff if they were Action.
40:11
Speaker 2: For Childhood Arrivals DOCA.
40:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's what DACA is gotcha. Yeah, and then
40:17
Speaker 3: for the remainder of the year, they would have to
40:18
Speaker 3: go back to Mexico. And I was like, man, that
40:22
Speaker 3: makes that makes so much sense, Like, come here, find
40:25
Speaker 3: a way to get them to pay taxes, they can
40:27
Speaker 3: work their job. These people that are running these companies
40:30
Speaker 3: that benefit off them, they're gonna have to They're gonna
40:32
Speaker 3: have to find a middle ground where they're not just
40:33
Speaker 3: gonna have to pay, you know, get out of jail
40:36
Speaker 3: free car to pay these people nothing and benefit from
40:40
Speaker 3: illegal immigration. You know, I have a friend who runs
40:42
Speaker 3: a huge commercial concrete company and ninety percent of his
40:46
Speaker 3: people are Mexicans, and a lot of them are illegals,
40:48
Speaker 3: And like, because no one else wants to work like
40:52
Speaker 3: these guys, their biggest These guys aren't thisists are not
40:54
Speaker 3: serial killers. They're not committing crimes. They're young Mexican dudes
40:59
Speaker 3: with family who like all they want to do, Like
41:02
Speaker 3: their biggest gripe is they can't work ten days a week.
41:05
Speaker 3: They want to work Monday through Sunday all day long. Yeah,
41:08
Speaker 3: and they're not.
41:08
Speaker 1: And you know, this gets into a larger discussion though,
41:11
Speaker 1: And like in the nineties you had and proveous to
41:14
Speaker 1: that thing. It was under Clinton NAFTA, which like completely
41:17
Speaker 1: destroyed the Mexican economy, and then you have cartels literally
41:20
Speaker 1: running Mexico. So it is what it is with that,
41:23
Speaker 1: So you have people and there's been a vacuum created
41:25
Speaker 1: by like the amount of drug dependence from Americans onto
41:28
Speaker 1: the drug economy that the countries in South America with
41:31
Speaker 1: the exception of Al Salvador and a few others. We
41:35
Speaker 1: know the gangs are essentially running these countries and so
41:38
Speaker 1: we're the biggest consumer for that product. And so there's
41:41
Speaker 1: been decades long things that have been flawed within the
41:45
Speaker 1: institution of government and Congress. Because I think just good
41:48
Speaker 1: people don't want to run for office. I'm like very
41:50
Speaker 1: convinced some of the people that I deal with. Wow,
41:55
Speaker 1: I sometimes question why why do it? But the perspective
42:01
Speaker 1: up there is that you know, this is just kind
42:03
Speaker 1: of the status quo, and if you have good relationships,
42:06
Speaker 1: if you have a zero tolerance on drugs in this country,
42:11
Speaker 1: on a lot of the crimes that we're seeing, it
42:14
Speaker 1: does have a ripple effect. Third and fourth order, it
42:16
Speaker 1: does impact other countries as things that we say our
42:19
Speaker 1: policies here do impact the countries people wanting to come here, work, economy,
42:24
Speaker 1: all of that. I mean, you have a lot of
42:25
Speaker 1: people that were programmed into thinking that your typical four
42:29
Speaker 1: year degree is like the way of making it in life. Meanwhile,
42:32
Speaker 1: we have I actually was actually just at a meeting
42:34
Speaker 1: with a couple of manufacturer and construction based companies here
42:37
Speaker 1: in Penels County, and we have a really good program
42:43
Speaker 1: that exists for people that are doing trade schools. But
42:46
Speaker 1: a lot of people look down on if you're in
42:48
Speaker 1: the construction industry, or you're an electrician, or you're a
42:51
Speaker 1: welder or a crane operator. I got news for you.
42:54
Speaker 1: Those people straight up out of high school are making
42:56
Speaker 1: six figures. You can make great money in those industries.
43:00
Speaker 1: But we've been so programmed, and.
43:01
Speaker 3: Like Die wants to be a YouTuber.
43:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone wants to be a YouTuber and or an
43:05
Speaker 1: Instagram person. And TikToker and China has been largely a
43:11
Speaker 1: part of that. They don't show their kids talking videos
43:13
Speaker 1: on TikTok and China. They show them how to be
43:15
Speaker 1: an astronaut. You want to be a physicist, Like that's
43:17
Speaker 1: cool to them. Here, it's quite the opposite. So you
43:20
Speaker 1: have society that's really been dumb down, and it's because
43:23
Speaker 1: of how lazy and I think the lack of oversight
43:26
Speaker 1: and conviction of elected officials. But this has been decades long.
43:29
Speaker 1: Like you have people that have been in office for
43:30
Speaker 1: longer than I've been in live, Like that's so coreat
43:33
Speaker 1: by significant yeah, and they're like the government's broken, yeah,
43:36
Speaker 1: because your ass has voted us into this brokenness and
43:39
Speaker 1: we're trying to fix it.
43:40
Speaker 2: But there's not enough young people with that perspective.
43:42
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of people online, and there's also
43:45
Speaker 3: a lot of people that write about like this this
43:48
Speaker 3: connection between like biblical stuff and like the modern UFO stuff.
43:54
Speaker 3: And I feel like there is a weird faction of
43:58
Speaker 3: people in the government who are like battling on these
44:02
Speaker 3: narratives UFO narrative.
44:03
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like a battle.
44:05
Speaker 1: I think there's certain people that want to release classified
44:07
Speaker 1: videos and there's other people that don't. The fact is
44:12
Speaker 1: that these things, if they were a foreign government that
44:17
Speaker 1: had this type of tech, we wouldn't be number one.
44:19
Speaker 1: And we're still number one. But I think there's like
44:23
Speaker 1: very separate So like we're talking specifically on like tech
44:26
Speaker 1: advancement and national security, but then there's like a very
44:30
Speaker 1: separate religious perspective. And like I think when you're talking
44:33
Speaker 1: about like biblical texts, do many people know that the
44:37
Speaker 1: New King's James Bible was actually rewritten?
44:40
Speaker 2: And why was it rewritten?
44:41
Speaker 1: Why were books removed? Why are there different Bibles and
44:43
Speaker 1: the Catholic texts? Now, why are they're different Bibles or
44:46
Speaker 1: books of the Bible and the Ethiopian Orthodox text So
44:48
Speaker 1: there's like eighty books in total total in Ethiopy Orthodox texts,
44:51
Speaker 1: and so like, I think that this gets into like
44:54
Speaker 1: a very religious perspective.
44:55
Speaker 2: But if you interchange, you know.
44:58
Speaker 1: The term alien, I don't call i'm alien, I say
45:01
Speaker 1: UAP unidentified aerial phenomenon. That's what they commonly are termed as.
45:06
Speaker 1: We actually have a really high number of reporting here
45:08
Speaker 1: in Panels County. Really, yeah, a very high number of
45:12
Speaker 1: people in the county have actually reported to see these things.
45:14
Speaker 1: And there's different hot spots around the world, but specifically
45:18
Speaker 1: in Alaska, definitely off the coast of Florida around the
45:22
Speaker 1: Bermuda Triangle. So you know, it's like not something. When
45:25
Speaker 1: I first started this stuff, they were like, Oh, you're
45:26
Speaker 1: going to ruin your political career. And I've actually gotten
45:29
Speaker 1: more questions on this from people, very wealthy people, very
45:32
Speaker 1: powerful people, to your average Joe that pays attention to
45:35
Speaker 1: this because they realize they're like, eh, there might be
45:37
Speaker 1: something there.
45:39
Speaker 3: So the problem with the Biblical stuff is that it's
45:43
Speaker 3: like this game of telephone, right, it's hard to know
45:47
Speaker 3: what actually happened two thousand years ago or more than
45:51
Speaker 3: two thousand years ago, going context, going back into antiquity
45:55
Speaker 3: in a in a textual context or in a literary
46:03
Speaker 3: context when it comes I'm talking about like going down
46:05
Speaker 3: to the bones of the language, right, because like, how
46:09
Speaker 3: many people do you know that can read ancient Greek fluently? Well?
46:14
Speaker 3: Aramic I mean AIRMK and Hebrew I mean Hebrews only
46:18
Speaker 3: has what seven thousand unique words.
46:20
Speaker 2: That's Ancient Greek. Orthodox Bible.
46:22
Speaker 3: Ancient Greek has over one point two million unique words.
46:27
Speaker 3: The library of Alexandria was all Greek. There was no Hebrew.
46:32
Speaker 3: And when you go into antiquity, everything was written in Greek.
46:36
Speaker 3: The medical texts, the legal text, the philosophical text, the
46:39
Speaker 3: historical the comedy, everything was Greek. The only Hebrew is
46:42
Speaker 3: the Dead Sea scrolls. The only Hebrew is religious stuff.
46:45
Speaker 3: And there's only seven thousand words. I've never met I've
46:48
Speaker 3: met maybe one or two people that can read Greek
46:50
Speaker 3: really really well, and they're all and and you know,
46:53
Speaker 3: on top of that, there's, like you said, there's the
46:56
Speaker 3: Enoch Book. There's all these other books that are left
46:59
Speaker 3: out that like go against the narrative. And you know,
47:02
Speaker 3: you could imagine if you're trying to create some sort
47:05
Speaker 3: of a like Plato would call it a noble lie
47:07
Speaker 3: for society, to keep society in line and to help
47:10
Speaker 3: your civilization thrive, you would want to take out some
47:14
Speaker 3: of that stuff and put in some of the good stuff,
47:16
Speaker 3: maybe change the meanings of some words. And over two
47:21
Speaker 3: thousand years, just think like something you had for lunch
47:25
Speaker 3: ten years ago or even last week, Like your memory
47:29
Speaker 3: is so inaccurate from what actually happened. Now take it
47:33
Speaker 3: ten thousand years, I'm sorry, two thousand years and transletting
47:37
Speaker 3: it through different languages, through different text through church fathers
47:40
Speaker 3: who are making money by preaching this stuff, and you know,
47:44
Speaker 3: having the Council of Nicea depending on trying to come
47:47
Speaker 3: to an agreement of what it's going to be. Yeah,
47:49
Speaker 3: which Bible, Like it's just like we don't know, we
47:52
Speaker 3: have no clue what actually happened back then. And there's
47:55
Speaker 3: absolutely people who had an axe to grind and a
47:58
Speaker 3: narrative to push.
47:59
Speaker 1: And Ethiopian Orthodox texts is direct translation hasn't changed it
48:05
Speaker 1: literally in the fifth century.
48:07
Speaker 2: The languages, the Ethiopian language, if if we can find
48:12
Speaker 2: out what what language theop text.
48:15
Speaker 1: Is the whole story on how they allegedly the Ark
48:18
Speaker 1: of the Covenant is housed in Ethiopy allegedly story there.
48:21
Speaker 1: But you kind of look at the fact that I
48:24
Speaker 1: believe it was the Council when I see that actually replaced.
48:29
Speaker 2: The Book of Enoch with revelations.
48:30
Speaker 1: You read revelations, You're like, what the heck, so I
48:33
Speaker 1: would encourage everyone to read it.
48:35
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense.
48:36
Speaker 3: And then there's there's perspective. Have you ever read the
48:39
Speaker 3: Infancy Gospel of Jesus, Yeah, where he kills a kid.
48:43
Speaker 2: I've looked into it.
48:43
Speaker 1: Well, he technically gets like angry, the kid falls, yeah,
48:46
Speaker 1: and he brings him back to life.
48:48
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't bring him back to life.
48:49
Speaker 1: I think he calls him back to life because they're like,
48:51
Speaker 1: did you do this? And then he comes back and
48:52
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I fell. Jesus didn't. Are issued into it.
48:55
Speaker 3: U Ethiopian Orthodox Church uses guests, that's what it's called.
49:00
Speaker 3: Oh interesting. Yeah, So it's just like.
49:05
Speaker 1: It's preserved for spiritual and scholarly purposes, so it really
49:08
Speaker 1: hasn't changed.
49:09
Speaker 2: It's a very ancient.
49:10
Speaker 3: Language, right right. And then like also, I've had a
49:13
Speaker 3: lot of theologians in here I've talked to and it's like,
49:18
Speaker 3: there's it's just kind of weird to me how people
49:20
Speaker 3: will dedicate their entire education, go to college for eight
49:26
Speaker 3: years and to get a PhD in a science, right
49:30
Speaker 3: Like you're studying the science of these ancient texts and
49:33
Speaker 3: translating the Bible and figuring out what it meant. But
49:36
Speaker 3: simultaneously subscribe to the belief. Right, I don't have a
49:39
Speaker 3: problem with it, right, I have no problem with whatever
49:41
Speaker 3: your belief is. You know, if it makes you a
49:43
Speaker 3: better person, God bless you. But isn't it a conflict
49:47
Speaker 3: of interest when you're actually studying a science of something
49:49
Speaker 3: and you simultaneously believe in it. You know, like people,
49:53
Speaker 3: it's a self fulfilling prophecy. And then yeah, I like.
49:58
Speaker 1: People that have not started out as believers and then
50:01
Speaker 1: try to debunk the Bible and then end up not
50:03
Speaker 1: being able to and then becoming believers.
50:05
Speaker 3: Yes, it goes both ways. It goes both ways, and
50:07
Speaker 3: there's there's.
50:08
Speaker 1: People who try to I think though, there's there's a
50:10
Speaker 1: really big portion of this discussion that when you have
50:14
Speaker 1: certain texts that are removed and have been known to
50:16
Speaker 1: be removed because they didn't adhere to whatever standard was.
50:19
Speaker 1: So I think the Book of Enoch was removed in
50:21
Speaker 1: the fifth century because it wasn't in line with what
50:25
Speaker 1: the Torah was. But the ancient Ethiopian Orthodox do have
50:30
Speaker 1: ties to the tribes of Israel, and they do think
50:32
Speaker 1: that it was actually something that they would consider a
50:35
Speaker 1: sacred text. And then you actually read what Enoch talks about.
50:38
Speaker 1: It's not like too crazy to be like there's something
50:41
Speaker 1: there on this, but you know that that would get
50:43
Speaker 1: into the more the philosophical. So then you have this
50:45
Speaker 1: aspect of UAP. So what are these things? And I
50:47
Speaker 1: mean it talks about in ancient history the legend of
50:50
Speaker 1: Atlantis and the technology that was given to mankind. Maybe
50:54
Speaker 1: it could be an explanation. I don't know, people should
50:56
Speaker 1: look it up into the Atlantis.
50:57
Speaker 3: Thing is so interesting, it's so fascinating. But like again
51:00
Speaker 3: it's so it's such an old text and the game
51:03
Speaker 3: of Steve. I know you have this. We got to
51:05
Speaker 3: pull this up. You have the chain of transmission for Atlantis.
51:07
Speaker 3: We've done We've talked about this so much on here
51:09
Speaker 3: like a nauseum. So I'm sorry for everyone who's listened
51:12
Speaker 3: to this one hundred thousand times. Yeah, the chain of
51:14
Speaker 3: transmission from for Atlantis is actually like ten times crazier
51:19
Speaker 3: than any any religious text like it.
51:21
Speaker 2: Oh, and like the legends of Atlanta, the legends like.
51:24
Speaker 3: There's there's thousands of years of just.
51:26
Speaker 1: Verbal Plato had to go to Egypt to hear about
51:29
Speaker 1: the legend of Atlantis and reported it in his texts.
51:32
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. And there's plenty of the elder plant of
51:34
Speaker 3: the younger soul in the Egyptian priests, and it wasn't
51:36
Speaker 3: written down until like ten thousand years after it was
51:40
Speaker 3: uh or orally explained to somebody.
51:43
Speaker 2: Right, pretty wild.
51:44
Speaker 3: But like Plato, he was also not a historian. He
51:47
Speaker 3: was a philosopher, and he would come up with theoretical
51:52
Speaker 3: hypothetical like like social experiments or like what do they
51:58
Speaker 3: call you, good, like war game experiments. And some people
52:01
Speaker 3: think that like you know, he came up with the
52:03
Speaker 3: allegory of the cave, and they think that this was
52:08
Speaker 3: like some some people, like the people who the skeptics,
52:11
Speaker 3: I guess you could call him, try to say this
52:13
Speaker 3: was like a hypothetical war game between Athens and like
52:15
Speaker 3: some other advanced civilization. Okay, so the destruction of.
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Speaker 2: Government doesn't do this.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, not nine thousand years before Solon's critias, Right,
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Speaker 3: so was the destruction of Atlantis. So oral history goes
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Speaker 3: on for one thousand years written down by the Egyptians
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Speaker 3: eight thousand years before Solon. Of course. The only of course,
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Speaker 3: there's no actual writings, priest records it or the priest
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Speaker 3: reads the records years past. He tells the memory to
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Speaker 3: Solon without consulting written records. Solon tells his relatives, Dropides
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Speaker 3: tells the son his son, Critias, the elder at age ninety,
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Speaker 3: tells his that's great. And then fifty years later Plato
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Speaker 3: writes it down like wild, ten thousand years? How many
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Speaker 3: years of oral transmission is that? Eight thousand, nine thousand years?
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Speaker 3: It's just like wild.
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Speaker 2: If we had a time machine, it would be interesting.
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Speaker 2: I would love to know that. Then give you a
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Speaker 2: time machine for a day. I'll get back to you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for real. But but yeah no, So like the
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Speaker 3: the UAP thing is interesting too. How Like there is evidence.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if you want to call
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Speaker 3: it evidence, but there's there's connections and things like Enoch
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Speaker 3: and these stories that suggest and philosophers have suggested this,
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Speaker 3: and like, you know, people like me who nerd out
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Speaker 3: in the UFO topic that this could be some civilization
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Speaker 3: that's lived here on Earth for over a million years
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Speaker 3: and they could just be underground, or they could have
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Speaker 3: been a breakaway civilization or something like this part of Atlantis.
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Speaker 3: If Atlantis was real and it was a super advanced
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Speaker 3: civilization and there was a cataclysm. If God sent the flood,
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Speaker 3: they escaped and now maybe they've come back when things
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Speaker 3: have calmed down, and they live here in like a
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Speaker 3: higher dimension, similar to like we live on the same
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Speaker 3: like we live next to ants, but they don't know
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Speaker 3: where they're