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The Delphi Murders with Austin Wade Picard Part 2 · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What what's going to happen? What you.
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  Speaker 1: Help if you look into actually the people who bred them,
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  Speaker 1: some of you know, these high ranking people, especially in
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  Speaker 1: New York. They German patriotic.
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  Speaker 2: So interesting. Okay, that makes a lot of sense too, Yeah, definitely,
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  Speaker 2: and that that would make a lot of sense why
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  Speaker 2: there's so much Nazi Nazism symbolic, you know, as far
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  Speaker 2: as like symbolically layered throughout many of the cult organizations,
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  Speaker 2: like the Process, right, I mean they had like a
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  Speaker 2: broken skull open with the blood draining out, was just
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  Speaker 2: like a dark shadows marching in lockstep goose stepping like
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  Speaker 2: you know, that would essentially a swastika. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: like entirely you know, Nazi symbolism, you know. But but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: very strange. But yeah, I should go take a Alsatians.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they were called.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry my dogs? Can I can I.
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  Speaker 1: Throw in my symbolism of Delphi?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I know you had a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I've been like chomping at the bit, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to interrupt. Okay, So if we look at the
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  Speaker 1: two victims, Libby Rose Liberty Rose Lynn German is her name,
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  Speaker 1: we noticed that it's two BB's for Libby, and then
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  Speaker 1: we have Abigail Joyce Williams again to BB's right. So
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  Speaker 1: we have the letter B being kind of reinforced and
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  Speaker 1: used again and again when we look at the victims themselves.
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  Speaker 4: Real quick, I just did want to you said, the
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  Speaker 4: girl's name is Liberty, right, Liberty. Yeah, that actually matches
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  Speaker 4: in Jewish Jamatari rituals.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, that's interesting. Sorry, I just I just no, no,
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  Speaker 1: please please interject. So then and then, of course your
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  Speaker 1: last name is German, right, Liberty German, Okay. And so
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  Speaker 1: she was the she was the oldest one of the two.
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  Speaker 1: She's fourteen. She was the one that was found without clothes,
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  Speaker 1: and so that reminded me of like Eve in the garden,
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  Speaker 1: you know, still in the garden, still in what have you.
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  Speaker 1: But of course that's probably not, you know, odonistic. And
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  Speaker 1: then you have the youngest one, who's thirteen, and she
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  Speaker 1: was clothed, and she was the one that looked like
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  Speaker 1: the hanged man.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that I kind of wanted to emphasize,
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  Speaker 1: and i'll, you know, briefly take you through that is
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  Speaker 1: the numbers four and three are found over and over
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  Speaker 1: and over, and I'll show you how here in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, but with into the tree almost reminding you
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  Speaker 1: of the left hand path or separations and so fourth
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  Speaker 1: and you have the Norse mythology of the tree yarder cell.
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  Speaker 1: It's an ash tree. Odin's horse, you have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the nine kind of coming into play with that. You
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  Speaker 1: have Odin Haynes himself. You have dry cell of the
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  Speaker 1: horse and all that other stuff. One of the things
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  Speaker 1: that I kind of, you know, gravitated towards was Yager
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  Speaker 1: sell sounds like garda cell, which was the vaccine that
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  Speaker 1: was used in HPV, and it was a vaccine put
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  Speaker 1: out by Mark and one of the main strains that
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  Speaker 1: I guess is responsible for cancers like six I mean sorry,
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  Speaker 1: sixteen eighteen, I think sometimes eleven six and whatever. But
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  Speaker 1: the thing that stood out the most was that it
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  Speaker 1: had first been developed for girls and they were advising
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  Speaker 1: them to be given between the ages of nine and thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: So nine again show or something kind of similar, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's kind of a stretch. Let
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  Speaker 1: me keep looking. While most of the HPV vaccine studies
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  Speaker 1: included a Delphi technique that you it was named after
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  Speaker 1: the oracle Delphi, and it basically it's a method to
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  Speaker 1: forecast decisions, so it assumes that are more valid than
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  Speaker 1: the individual judgment. And that method was used to predict
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  Speaker 1: market not so much the technique of developing vaccine theory
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  Speaker 1: or vaccine technology, but basically how could we put this
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  Speaker 1: out there and how could we implement it into public market,
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  Speaker 1: public health, public policymaking. So it's interesting that.
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  Speaker 2: The corporation was involved with with the Delphi method, right,
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  Speaker 2: right of course.
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  Speaker 1: And so then you have another software related to the
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  Speaker 1: Garsol vaccine where it's called the Delphi screener and simulate
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  Speaker 1: and estimate history of cervical cancer screening in a hypothetical situation.
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  Speaker 1: So they kind of model it or project it out.
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  Speaker 1: And then one thing that I thought interesting is that
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  Speaker 1: when the girls, when it was discovered in these girls had
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  Speaker 1: been victim of a crime, the tree of life became
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  Speaker 1: the symbol of their remembrance. And so I go back to, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we have again the yagersil the tree of odin that
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  Speaker 1: he hung himself. The other thing kind of stood out
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  Speaker 1: to me was a m Abby Williams. I'm sorry, so
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  Speaker 1: a M meaning the axis Moondy. But if you look
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  Speaker 1: at Abby Williams, if you flip the W, you get
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  Speaker 1: the the M. And Abby was the one that was
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  Speaker 1: indicating the hanged man, so almost like an opposite or
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  Speaker 1: upside down. And she had the position of the branches
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  Speaker 1: on the girls that looked like in A and M.
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  Speaker 1: So you have axis Mondy and I think am is
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  Speaker 1: also important in Freemasonry as well as Masonic, most Masonic things.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing that kind of stood out, and
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  Speaker 1: it just happened while you were talking Austin. So just
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  Speaker 1: the numbers four and three seem to pop up and
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  Speaker 1: keep popping up. So we have a forty three second
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  Speaker 1: video from the girl's phone, right, total of forty three.
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  Speaker 3: He got a d.
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  Speaker 1: He was sentenced to forty three years in prison. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So when you look at the toll the day that
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  Speaker 1: the bodies apparently or what was it, what was in
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  Speaker 1: February thirteenth, right, So you have a two, you have
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  Speaker 1: a three, and then you have twenty seventeen. So if
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  Speaker 1: you take away the ones, you have two three, then
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  Speaker 1: two and that would be four seven, I mean four
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  Speaker 1: and then three would be seven. And the reason I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: why well, what is the one important or not? But
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  Speaker 1: then you timestamped that Abby posted that video or somebody
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  Speaker 1: took a screenshot and it was two O seven. So
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  Speaker 1: you again you have, you know, the resundancy of like
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  Speaker 1: maybe it is this, but I think the so four
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  Speaker 1: and three were you know, kind of show up a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But it's the number seven that it's pointing to right,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of referring back and back. And so when
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  Speaker 1: you look at what was the other one the hangman
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  Speaker 1: in tarot is the number seven when you look at
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  Speaker 1: Ronald Logan when he died seventy seven. The other thing
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  Speaker 1: is and one thing that I always found where that
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  Speaker 1: nobody really picked up on. When you look at the
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  Speaker 1: way the girls that they were laid right, and you
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  Speaker 1: look at the brands that were laid over them, they
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  Speaker 1: look like a three and a four. And so if
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  Speaker 1: you look up what is what does the number three
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  Speaker 1: look like in rooms? It's basically the V with a
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  Speaker 1: with a straight line coming down like this. And then
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  Speaker 1: the other one described it looks like an F, which
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  Speaker 1: is the four. So it's three and four. And then
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  Speaker 1: you look at their ages, they're thirteen and fourteen, leaving
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  Speaker 1: out the one right. So then you look at what
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  Speaker 1: is number seven in odinism and it's too complete to finish, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think so. And then when you look
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  Speaker 1: at the number seven in rooms, it's an X, which
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  Speaker 1: you could you could argue that that's also what that
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  Speaker 1: with the one with the branches with the long stick
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  Speaker 1: going across like them?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I just just thoughts and then really quickly let
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  Speaker 1: me finish this. I'm sorry because I'm like dying to
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  Speaker 1: get it all out. Okay, So that was the ruins germanship.
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  Speaker 1: We already talked about that. We talked about that. Oh murders.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry sorry sorry, Oh that was the end the number
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  Speaker 1: seven completeness. Kelsey. One of the things that I found
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  Speaker 1: really weird with Kelsey. She is the sister of Libby.
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  Speaker 1: She kind of has abandoned who she was and taken
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  Speaker 1: on the role of I'm living Libby's life.
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  Speaker 2: Right as she really I haven't followed it since, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had mentioned and early on we heard
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  Speaker 1: this that there was a Purdue professor that came out
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  Speaker 1: and said it's not that bulb blap. But then now
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  Speaker 1: they can't find him, right, whatever sense he took. I
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  Speaker 1: don't hear she took I don't know, but it was
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  Speaker 1: a Purdue professor. I remember that. And then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden they couldn't find who he was. What's interesting
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  Speaker 1: is that Kelsey has taken on I guess the narrative
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  Speaker 1: that she wants to grow up and become a forensic
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  Speaker 1: or go into forensics. And she's currently taking classes at university.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, so it's like, is it with the
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  Speaker 1: same professor, except I don't know. And so there is that.
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  Speaker 1: And then what you had mentioned, I'm so glad you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned him. You mentioned what's his name, Brad Holder, and
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of Facebook posts prior to the case, or
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  Speaker 1: prior to the whole thing, right, and they said that
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  Speaker 1: weird how he was, like he had all these Facebook
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  Speaker 1: images and they were kind of indicating certain that kind
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  Speaker 1: of led to one of the murders or what have you.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the the common theme that he had
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  Speaker 1: in his images was the what is it called tho
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  Speaker 1: in zaas I can't pronounce that, but it's basically the
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  Speaker 1: room for the number three, so that one where everybody's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like anough, it looks like an F but
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  Speaker 1: we don't know what the other one is. It looks
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  Speaker 1: like a three. I mean, I think it does. It
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  Speaker 1: maybe doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: That's how they connect. That's basically what I was just
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  Speaker 2: getting to, basically was just that how the Rushville del
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  Speaker 2: Phi connection to the individuals who are part of the
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  Speaker 2: same group, the gang, right, the Vinlander Gang, I think
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  Speaker 2: is what they refer to themselves as, which if you
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  Speaker 2: look at Look a Vinlander, you get this historical text
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  Speaker 2: that seems to be very much involved at a crucial
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  Speaker 2: level of the ideological framework that they kind of exercise.
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  Speaker 2: It seems to be a sort of like almost origin
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  Speaker 2: story of the Vinlander. And they're like, it's very strange.
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  Speaker 2: It almost feels like some sort of reflection of a
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  Speaker 2: Knight's Templar connection almost. It honestly does.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And you're you're absolutely right with the whole Night's
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  Speaker 1: Templar because again we go to Access Mondy and they
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  Speaker 1: were the ones that pretty much bring Access Mondy into
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  Speaker 1: the zeitgeist. Yeah wow, And that's where you get the
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  Speaker 1: people are basically go into the Rosicrucians, and they go
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  Speaker 1: into the Masons, and then they go into all the
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  Speaker 1: other secret societies that kind of come out of that
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  Speaker 1: if by if if, and I believe they were Germanic
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  Speaker 1: of sorts, I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I think a lot of the there's there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Germanic imagery that's used in the context
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  Speaker 2: of the Vinlanders, which I find interesting. And that's another
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  Speaker 2: reason why I think they called them no essentially neo Nazis,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and in a certain way they said they
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  Speaker 2: were they were basically, you know, fundamentally sort of white supremacists, right,
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  Speaker 2: which I found interesting. But but uh, basically and I
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  Speaker 2: have to, I have to, I have to share this
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  Speaker 2: picture of Brad Holder in a moment. But that whole uh,
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  Speaker 2: that whole point as far as there's a connection to
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  Speaker 2: this individual by the name of Johnny Messer. And this
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  Speaker 2: is where the Facebook posts come into play, which is
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  Speaker 2: so crazy. As you were mentioning how they're they're kind
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  Speaker 2: of recreating, uh, the same photos that that each of
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  Speaker 2: them are posting on their Facebook pages around the same time,
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  Speaker 2: which that to me, uh, you know, is kind of
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  Speaker 2: another uh sort of perfect avenue into to witnessing this
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  Speaker 2: sort of you know, flex that they're very proud of this,
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  Speaker 2: uh and initiatory event. I think or find finality. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what what exactly would you call it? If what happened?
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  Speaker 2: What is it called whenever you move up in the
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  Speaker 2: in the context of a secret fraternal organization. Yeah, basically yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're promoted with and the this is ide Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and and so basically the Unified Command they discovered this
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  Speaker 2: just you know, at least disturbing Odinis. Evidence was was
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  Speaker 2: provided to them that proved by the task Force that
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  Speaker 2: there were connections from the members of the Venlander group
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  Speaker 2: in Rushville to the members of the Vinlander group in Delphi.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where you have this Johnny Messer individual from
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  Speaker 2: Rushville who comes into the picture. And Johnny was allegedly
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  Speaker 2: a recruiter for the Odinis, right, for the Odenites also,
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  Speaker 2: and he seems to provide this connective tissue between the
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  Speaker 2: two areas and and the Odenites. Brad Holder and Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Westfall are then connected to the Rushville suspects, Elvis Fields
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  Speaker 2: and Rodd Abrams right who Elvis is the one who
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  Speaker 2: told the asked the truth if you find my spit
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  Speaker 2: on one of the girls, right, who told his sister
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  Speaker 2: that he spit on him and that he was at
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  Speaker 2: the he was he was responsible and a part of
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  Speaker 2: the killings, and at this ritual, you know, the night
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  Speaker 2: before that he had told his sister, and so that
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  Speaker 2: is where the connection kind of forms and Delph it's
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  Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty five miles basically from Rushville,
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  Speaker 2: and law enforcement were aware that Johnny Messer was friends
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  Speaker 2: with Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall, and so it was
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  Speaker 2: also known that Messer was acquaintances with Elvis Fields and
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  Speaker 2: Rodd Abrams. So this is the recruiter for the Odonites.
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  Speaker 2: So basically it appears as if this connection was then
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  Speaker 2: chalked up to a simple bizarre coincidence by the Unified Command. Legitimately,
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  Speaker 2: that's how they explain this away. They just act as
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  Speaker 2: if this is an actual coincidence, and we shouldn't look
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  Speaker 2: into the statements that were made by anyone surrounding these
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  Speaker 2: individuals or the individuals themselves, which clearly show that they
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  Speaker 2: have no real alibi that's legitimate, incredible, and yet that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't force the or at least, you know, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: of course force the investigators to pursue that at any
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  Speaker 2: real level of honesty or integrity. And that proves out
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  Speaker 2: to me that the Unified Command was clearly compromised, especially
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  Speaker 2: what takes place with the Task Force. So Elvis Fields, right,
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  Speaker 2: So you have this crazy connection between Elvis Fields, Rodd
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  Speaker 2: Abram's Bradholder and Patrick Westfall who are sharing this a
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  Speaker 2: common acquaintance in Johnny Messer, who's the recruiter for the Oldness.
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  Speaker 2: But it turns out that Elvis Fields and Brad Holder
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  Speaker 2: they happen to also follow each other on Facebook while
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  Speaker 2: mimicking each other's Facebook pages, with Elvis Fields actually recreating
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  Speaker 2: the photos that Holder posted on his Facebook page. So
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  Speaker 2: at this is shocking as hell because I believe as
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  Speaker 2: August to twenty twenty three, there was a deposition and
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Holman was the Unified Command member who claimed that
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  Speaker 2: he did not even know who Johnny Messer was nor
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  Speaker 2: what the evidence showed of Messer's possible role in the
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  Speaker 2: murders of Abby and Libby. This is after the task
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  Speaker 2: has provided all the information including these individuals as key
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  Speaker 2: perpetrators potentially involved, and so he's already I think Jerry Holman,
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  Speaker 2: member of the Unified Command, was one of the key
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  Speaker 2: compromised individuals who helped facilitate the cover up, and that
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  Speaker 2: continues to show itself. But there's you know it's Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Messer was cleared as a suspect, just like just like
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  Speaker 2: Brad Holder when and that was all you know you
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  Speaker 2: cleared While still considering the fact that Johnny's ex girlfriend,
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Hornaday, she told police that Johnny, Johnny Messer, and
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Westfall were like brothers. She also told police that
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  Speaker 2: she had allowed Johnny to borrow her car on or
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  Speaker 2: around Valentine's Day twenty seventeen, and that Johnny drove this
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  Speaker 2: car her car up there to hang with his Vinlander friends.
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  Speaker 2: So he drove as if he had driven one hundred
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  Speaker 2: twenty five miles up to Delphi to hang with his
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  Speaker 2: Vinlander friends. When he returned his vehicle or her vehicle,
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  Speaker 2: it had dried blood over one side of it. Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Messer refused to discuss the details of how the blood
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  Speaker 2: got there, and his ex girlfriend further states that it
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  Speaker 2: took her several car washes to finally remove this blood. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: Messer has claimed that he had never, not once in
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  Speaker 2: his life been to Delphi home of his brother Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Westfall right and near the home of his other odinite brother,
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  Speaker 2: Brad Holder, and again Vinlander is a word allegedly interchangeable
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  Speaker 2: with those that practice odinism. As State Trooper Roland Purty
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  Speaker 2: stated in his deposition, all members of Vinlanders are also odinis,
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  Speaker 2: and also it says that the Vinlanders are a white
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  Speaker 2: supremacist group consisting of odinis. Brad Holder, Patrick Westfall, and
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  Speaker 2: Johnny Messer were all affiliate with the Venlander group. Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Messer's x girlfriend, the same woman, Taylor Hornaday, she also
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  Speaker 2: would confirm that all Vinlanders were also all odinous, and
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  Speaker 2: that Johnny Messer, Bradholder, and Patrick Westfall were all members
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  Speaker 2: of the Vinlander So Taylor Hornaday Messrs ex girlfriend. She
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  Speaker 2: would continue on to tell law enforcement that brad Holder
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  Speaker 2: and Johnny were two of the most violent people she
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  Speaker 2: knew and were fully capable of having been involved in
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  Speaker 2: the murders. Now, the same woman would would state that
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  Speaker 2: a motive for their involvement seemed to have been the
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  Speaker 2: concept of quote blood in and blood out, which means
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  Speaker 2: social acceptance into their secret circles. This was an initiatory
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  Speaker 2: blood sacrifice, I mean, that's what it seems as if
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  Speaker 2: took place. But all this information was relayed to you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the leaders of the Unified Command and Lagette
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  Speaker 2: and and the entire Unified Command team. But no guidance
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  Speaker 2: whatsoever or capitalization on this information in any way toward
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  Speaker 2: actually solving these murders was actually pursued. And so although
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  Speaker 2: Unified Command learned that Johnny Messer's ex girlfriend had been
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  Speaker 2: listening to and recording Johnny Messer's phone calls, police secured
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  Speaker 2: the phone and listened to three phone calls involving Johnny.
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  Speaker 2: In two of those phone calls, Messer was quote offering
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  Speaker 2: money to other people to find someone so they can
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  Speaker 2: be injured or killed. The third call involves Messer quote
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  Speaker 2: bragging about holding a subject hostage and shooting them at
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  Speaker 2: his house. So when you go through the memorandum and
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  Speaker 2: the affidavit and all the court documents that are provided
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  Speaker 2: in the Delphi case, it is fundamentally, in my mind
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  Speaker 2: it's possible, you know, to to sort of just at
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  Speaker 2: the very least ignore you know that these these details
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: are are so condemning and damning details you know, in
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: my mind, actually providing us with legitimate perpetrators, the names
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: of the individuals involved, where they were on the night
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: of the murders taking place. How their alibis completely fall apart.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: If you attempt to, you know, at any level, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: corroborate the legitimacy of the alibi, it doesn't stand up.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And they each rely on each other to to sort of,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you know, make these false statements. And the official unified
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: command would do everything in their capability to ignore all
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of these connections and all of this cooperative evidence, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: and then with worse than that, wouldhold it all from
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the defense and the prosecution, you know, because I believe
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the judge was obviously in bed with the prosecution itself.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is, you know, they
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: essentially said nothing to see here. And regarding Johnny Messer, right,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: and and Patrick Westfall and Brad Holder, and so none
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: of them, they're no search warrants for for any of
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: them were issued. So then you have, of course the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: odin I correctional officers who are abusing Richard Allen, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that that's very strange because there there's in odin we
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: trust is a patch that was being displayed with symbols
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: of Odinism on their actual prison guard uniforms in the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Westville Corrections facility. And and so it's obviously to me
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: that you you have these these members of the Westville
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Correctional Facility who are legitimately abusing Richard Allen during the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: throughout the course of this investigation and then after he's
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: apprehended in the case going forward to the trial. It's
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: it's just it's fast to me how it all kind
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: of takes shape. But yes, so it turns out that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: two of these individuals who were the old night correctional
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: officers alleged to have abused Richard Allen while he's in
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: custody and intimidated him right Apparently their names were Sergeant
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Robertson and Sergeant Jones. And these officers were were boldly
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: wearing these patches right on their DC uniforms, so beyond
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that you have, and they were in the form of
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: these interlocking triangles. I think that I saw you pull
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: up earlier, Nick, where I had seen you pull up
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of different symbols and and and one of
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: them was these interlocking triangles that very obviously I had
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: gotten a picture of one of the patches that was
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: on the the correctional officers uniforms, and and yeah, it
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: was so clearly obvious that it was an old Knight
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: symbol and.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, And you know what, I thought,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: it just really quick. I wanted to throw this into it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I thought, you know, when I came across this and
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I heard about this stuff, I don't know why it
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: made me remember and I me and Lux originally when
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: we did the Occult Rejects, I did it with him
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: and we had covered the what.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: The fuck was that shit? That insurrection spokely you know,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Thing, and you had that uh that QAnon shaman guy. Yeah, yeah,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: you know, we cover that whole thing where that guy
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: was like practically dressed up. Like I can't remember the
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: ritual because it was Lux was the one who found it.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I was like kind of looking at other things, but
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: that guy pretty much fit like a ritual that was
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: going on, and I found it interesting how he did
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: have that symbol on.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: His chest as well. Of course, you know, it's just
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: like you know, like is this all theater as well?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: It's hard to explain, like it's just you know, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: again like I'm not saying I don't know how to
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: say this. You know, there are people on the far
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: right who are interested in Trump just put it that
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: way right, So you know, could he be going back
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: to shit and I like this.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Coham, Sorry, no, I.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Could have just be going back to people that are
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: interested in that shipping into the occult one.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And I mean you see the templars and the strange loyalists,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: uh to certain, I meanless circle P two. I mean,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: how many different members are surrounding Trump at this moment
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: who have affiliations and loyalties to these secret fraternal organizations
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: that are pursuing a very similar agenda. Uh yeah, I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: just you know, we can't believe our own eyes. And
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: political puppets perform in the political theater, right, they perform
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: their roles for the clearly this sort of aristocratic elite
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: class that that have fundamentally structured modern society to where
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: we clearly they're insulated from accountability in more ways than one.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And and that's why. And also you have to be
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: among the initiated or introduced to the ideas at the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: very least two not you know, kind of be seduced,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: right or at the very least not not be able
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: to identify the clear and obvious loyalist symbology and symbolism
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that surrounds many of these individuals who are trying to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: exercise and flex their loyal uh you know, loyal nature
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to their organization. But but yeah, I think there's also
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: like just symbols surrounding like uh, you know, for example,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: whenever Trump's in the Oval office and they they they're
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: kind of performing some sort of you know, public uh
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it clearly have you not seen the the strange shelf
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: that's behind Trump where every single presidential administration they have
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: different things that they put on the shelf, and for
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: for his background, it now seems to be all these
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: gold statues that take on different forms. And it's very
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: interesting because to me it looks like it's deliberate and
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you know, and and who knows what the ties are there,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't all be shocked. I saw something the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: other day that that showed that there were, you know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: clear reasons as to why Trump is the true German Shepherd.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: That's funny. But but yeah, you know, it's crazy about
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: these of course, And and you know what I mean,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I covered the Cancora Boys Home and and uh Roy Kohane,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: his mentor, flat out raped Richard Kerr. You know, I
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: mean legitimately trafficked that dude. From Cancora Boys Home and
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: was a pedophile who ran sexual blackmail, human compromised parties
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: where the Processed Church, according to David Berkwitz, was supplying
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: him with young children right at his human compromised parties
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: where he's living geographically very close to that of Trump
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: at the time. And uh, and we all know at
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: this point that Richard that Roy Cohne he was responsible
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: for actually blackmailing Jaeger Hoover and the Blue Sweet parties
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and and h and so the idea that Trump hasn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: been drenched in human compromise for generations and that you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you can go back to was it Murdoch or who
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: was the individual who the money money manager of the Rothchilds,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: who are like, uh, basically stating when Trump had a
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: filed for bankruptcy back in the day that after it,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: and of course he took over Royal Casino International, which
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: has ties to the Mayor Lancey Mayor Lansky syndicate. But
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: nobody talks about that. But of course it just it
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: blows me away, you know, considering the fact that Trump
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: would then purchase that very same hotel that was utilized
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: for audio visual blackmail for that roy Cohne with blackmail,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: JEdgar Hoover with and then he also happens to purchase
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: a non Koshogi's yacht which is also entirely rigged with
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: audio visual blackmail, who was connected to the Maxwell Epstein
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: network of running guns through a RAN contra. And Epstein
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: himself was was right living under a fake passport in
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and different identity while these embezzling funds from
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: a non Koshogi's arms smuggling operation. So to me, yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like, let's put all the individuals who
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: are compromised by the Epstein network in charge of Epstein
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: disclosure and see what happens. You know, it's hilarious to me.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: But anyway, the fundamental point I was attempting to make
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: with the symbolic nature of the correctional officers not only
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: wearing the patches and you know, clearly displaying their loyalties,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: but they also, just like Brad Holder, just like Patrick Westfall,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: they were also posting these od Night symbols on their
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Facebook pages, clear displays of these ruins and images, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: so I think it was there was a photograph that
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: one of them, one of the correctional officers either Robinson
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: or Jones had displayed on their Facebook page as well,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and it was like an altar, right, some sort of
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: od alter that that uh, they were essentially utilizing and
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and or at least portraying on their on their page
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and and so yeah, the same well something very similar
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: could be found, uh, almost identical on that of the
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Facebook page of Brad Holder, which is fascinating to me
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that they were kind of again, they were mimicking each
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: other's Facebook pages with the symbology surrounding the case that
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: had yet to go public, and and that in itself
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: is some sort of uh, you know, it's some sort
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: of strange Yeah. I mean, when when you feel as
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: if you're protected enough to where you can kind of
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: flaunt your you know, uh, it really is kind of
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: outwardly taking credit, you know what I mean in a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: way to where you feel as if you have no
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: concern about legitimate consequences being you know, coming around the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: corner and during them at any real level personally. So yeah,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: to me, it seemed as if this was a perfect
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: display of how much how confident they truly were the
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: individual perpetrators involved in this, and it goes to show
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that whatever Patrick Westfall had told Brad Holder or when
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: they had their falling out after this alleged falling out,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: after this ritual murder, that according to Amber Holder, right,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Brad Holder's ex wife, that Patrick Westfall he had powerful
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: people he was connected with and they were protected essentially
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: from any real accountability. And so that goes to show
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I think that obviously, beyond the connection to the prison
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: system and the correctional officers themselves being loyal to the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: group who are obviously apparently abusing Richard Allen during the
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: course of his you know, just being you know, obviously
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: in custody, it was just like at every level, you know,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: there's not justice that's being pursued at any you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: it's just it's kind of extraordinary to look at this
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: case and and see that none of these oldness signatures
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: in the crime scene were pursued at any level. And so, yeah,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the oldness patches were later apparently as they as the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: prosecution realized that the defense had had discovered the fact
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that these oldness patches were being worn by the correctional
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: officers who were essentially abusing Richard Allen, and and and
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously there and present whenever Richard Allen would
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: discuss any of the details of his case with his
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: family members or his defense team, that basically, you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: they had removed their patches in a very timely manner,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and just as the defense had discovered and we're going
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to make it public, all of a sudden, the patches
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: of loyalty to the Oldness Group were removed from the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: correctional officer's uniform. And so that in itself kind of
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: provided a smoking gun as to the fact that had
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: one insider information insider knowledge. Things were going around and
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: very quickly in terms of oh, no, they've discovered this connection.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: We have to now cover our tracks, and then it
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: being entirely you know, just ignored from then on, you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: basically going forward, and all of this was sort of
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: you know, they I think there was a process of
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: concealing this very important information in order to falsify these
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: uh these the the evidence, right, and and that was
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the whole point was to uh. In the context of
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the memorandum, it basically legitimately says that that they were
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: falsifying the information in order to bolster the bogus timeline
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: of the state and so that in itself, uh, you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I think is I think that's a correct interpretation of
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: how it how it happened. And when the FBI was
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: removed from the Delphi case, that in itself proves out
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: to kind of lend credibility to the idea that that
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: obviously this was not going to come out publicly in
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: any real way. And so this state there was like
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: a essentially the state police superintendent. He decides he's going
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: to pull the plug and kick the FBI off the
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Delphi murder case in twenty twenty one. And all of
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: that is over some conflicts, apparently some sort of ridiculous
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: alleged conflicts. They're they're going to force the FBI off
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the case. And this all happened at the exact same
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: time that one of the federal agents in the investigative
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: task Force was essentially executed in broad daylight. And so
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: what we have here is Todd Klick, right, the former
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: investigator on the task force's He's thought to have been
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the strongest piece of evidence for Andrew Baldwin and Brad Rossey,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the attorneys for Richard Allen. And so basically this three
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: man investigative unit that formed in twenty eighteen, as I mentioned,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: was formed in order to investigate obviously, the odinism connections
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: to the ritual killings. And so you had, in the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: exact same time that the FBI is removed from the
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: murder case, you have this task force that's disbanded. And
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: so this task force is disbanded at the exact same
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: time that Detective Greg Farrency is murdered in twenty twenty one.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Just after is when the task force is disbanded and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the FBI is removed from the case. So this is
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: all very interesting to me because a federal grand jury
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, they essentially return an indictment charging this Terry
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: hout man with the murder of a federal officer. Now,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: when you look into who killed Detective Greg Ferency, who
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: was on the Odinism task force, it turns out that
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: it was this individual from Terry hout who was he
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: attempted arson of a federal property as well, and used
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: a firearm in order to commit the killing. Obviously, But
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: his name was Shane Meehan, all right, He's forty five
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: years old at the time. And it turns out this
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: is July seventh, twenty twenty one, and he decides he's
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: going to show up to the federal building where Officer
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Greg Ferency is located. He was a member of the
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: three person task force. And so it turns out Mehan
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: had previously been charged by a federal criminal complaint filed
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: on July eighth, and according to the documents, Mehann drove
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: his pickup truck to the gate of the FBI Resident
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Agency building in Terry Hout. Meehann exited his truck and
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: throw a Molotov cocktail toward the building just after Terry
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Hout police detective and FBI Task Force Officer Greg Referency.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: It was almost as if he just pulls up to
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: the federal building lobs a Molotov cocktail at the building
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: in order to lure out the only individual. Right let's say,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Greg Ferency is clearly the priority target. But this is
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: an attempt to lure out a federal agent in order
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: to execute them on the steps like it very much
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: seems as if this is what happens, because it turns
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: out that he drives to the federal building, he exited
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: his truck, throws a Molotov cocktail toward the building, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Just after this, you have Greg Ferenncy walk out of
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the FBI building and confront Mehan, and he's holding a
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: gun at the time. Mehan shoots the task force officer
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and he dies shortly after. And so the FBI agent
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: inside the office allegedly heard the shots, came out and
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: got into a gun battle with Mehn, and so Mehen
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: was reportedly hit twice, managed to somehow get to his
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: truck drive to the hospital. He undergoes surgery for his
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: wounds and was later taken into custody. Now I looked
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: this guy up and I discovered that Shane Meehan, this
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: accused gunman in the shooting, having to be a former
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: employee of the high security federal prison in Terry Hout.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: So I thought instant connection to the potential, right the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: correctional officer, the correctional officers who had been clearly members
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: of the Odinisk group and and you know, providing it
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: as far as just you know, exercising their loyalty obviously publicly.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And so it looks as if me I personally thought
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: instantly this guy had some sort of connection to that
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: very organization and there was a reason why he had
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: spent so many years at this maximum facility prison in
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Terry Hout, So it made sense to me. It fit
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: this sort of you know, just fundamentally pattern recognition. It
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: was hard to ignore. But he even runs for mayor,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: this guy as an independent in twenty nineteen and he
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: finished last in a four way race with one percent
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: of the vote. And if you can believe it, Man
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: he ran on an anti gun violence platform, which is
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: so funny. And there's a video story on me Hen
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: who and his candidacy for mayor and says he had
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: lived in Terry Hout his entire life. He retired from
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the Terry House Federal Penitentiary and was working for UPS
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. Man said he wanted to show that
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a political outsider could win and said schools were one
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: of the biggest challenges Terry Hout faced. But yeah, it
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: turns out that a federal court would conveniently rule that
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Shane Meehan and this is in November twenty fifth, twenty
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: twenty five, or he's not competent to stand trial for
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one fatal shooting of Terry Help police
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: detective and FBI lia soon Greg Pharisee so to me,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: it lends credibility to the idea this individual performed targeted
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: assassination on behalf of the organization to continue to one
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: provide a pretext to remove the FBI from the case,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: also to provide an avenue to legitimately disbanding the task
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: force who were solely, you know, given the purpose of
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, investigating the olderness signatures of the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: crime scene. So that in itself fascinating to me, and
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: especially since this judge clearly claims that he's suffering from
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: a mental disease, rendering him mentally incompetent to the extent
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: that he is unable to understand the nature and the
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: consequences of the proceedings against him or assist properly in
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: his defense. So to me, I also think, like, you know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: what happens if if if you are an asset and
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you're you're essentially At times, I feel as if some
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: of these assets are are given false promises right as
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: if they they will come out on the other side
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: of this sort of you know, with with their proper
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: defense and protection in place by the by providing and
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: showing and exercising their loyalty to the organization they would
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: be taken care of, but more times than not, I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: think they're kind of hung out to dry and they're
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: they're you know, as far as uh uh, what's it
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: called when you're an expendable You're an expendable asset at
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: this point, and so okay, you're willing to go through this,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: but now we have to sort of convince the outside
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: world that that you have lost your mind effectively and
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: you are no longer fit to stand trial. And sucks
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Jesus my dogs. Anyway, So yeah, to me, I just
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: thought that there's no way that this is what it
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: seems to be right at face value. This guy was,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: in my mind, I think kind of he was. At
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the very least, he was an asset in my mind
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: that was utilized in order to help the timing of it.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: All too convenient. It's hard to believe in coincidence. But yeah,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: and then after this, following this, subsequently to it, you
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: have the federal investigator Todd Klick, whose career and reputation
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: is entirely destroyed in order to remove him as a witness,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: a key witness on behalf of Richard Allen's defense, which
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: made a lot of sense to me. Right, And that's
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: another reason why Judge Francis goal would effectively block all
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: testimony about odinism during the trial of Richard Allen. And
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: that is another reason how he again, if the jury
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: can't even hear the credible evidence that seems to have,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: you know, real corroborative aspects to it, you know, then
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of course you know that this would be the case.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: You would effectively have no other priority, you know, perpetrator
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: that you would focus on, in my mind, and so
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that's why you have He comes forward Todd click just
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: after all this takes place, and he testifies, right, and
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: it was early in twenty twenty four. He testifies that
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: essentially this Nick McCleland is the prosecutor. Yeah, I was
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: thinking that in custody, who wouldn't receive the mk ultra
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: treatment to a certain extent, right, you know what I mean.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: It's like, why wouldn't right, Yeah, why wouldn't you scramble
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: the brains of Richard Allen at a certain level? And
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: also why wouldn't he come forward and say sixty different times, yeah,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I did it after he said as this entire other right,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: his defense everyone involved is claiming, no, that's impossible. Right,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: and he himself has provided so many details to to
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: uh to the contrary right, and and so it just
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to me it seemed as if, especially seeing the trans
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: transformation that he had once he was already in custody,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: he looks like a different person if you saw him
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: being ushered through within the smock or whatever he's in.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: And and and and also consider the the individual Shane
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Meehan who goes who's given the task of just driving
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: up to the federal building and lobbing them all a
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: toove cocktail to to provoke the one individual you would
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: need to execute in order to kind of like provide
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: a plausible, uh, you know, reason to pretext to disband
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the task force and remove the FBI federal involvement. It
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: makes sense. And and so anyway, Todd Klick, he feels
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the need to come forward, and I'm almost done finally
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: with well we'll get to the end of this and
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: and uh, I'll come to to a conclusion. But but
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: but it's interesting because Todd Klick, right, he comes forward.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: He's telling the prosecutor Nick McCleland, after Richard Allen's arrest
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two that he's clearly concerned about the
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: substance behind Allan's conviction or as far as his arrest
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: in terms of the the uh uh, the actual evidence
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: and allegations against him. Yeah, that's a different person, dude.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Like, I'm not saying that
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: prison doesn't do that to you, but I mean, you
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: know that's that's.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, A look like he lost a lot of weight, bro,
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: because in prison, a lot of people I've never been,
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: of course, but I can say a lot.
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: Of people have worked out.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: And you know, my brother actually been in and out
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: of jail and stuff like that. And when he before
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: he went in, he was very skinny. When he came out,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: well just a year, he was huge, And I was like, damn,
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: the hell was you doing? He said, You know, all
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: he did was work out. You know what I'm saying.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: And you know, you can look at his shirt. Something
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: happened to him. You know, there's a reason why his
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: attorney took his picture like that. So I mean something. Yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: I'm starting to see what you're talking about. I was
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: pulling up the court documents and reading it and going
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: through it and stuff like that. You're very knowledgeable on that.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: So I want to thank you for giving me this
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: knowledge on it, because I like history, and I love religion,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: I love mythology, and everything that you talked about goes
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: back to some part part of that. I mean, I
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: brought up some of the terror cars that you were
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: talking about, and they had some of the Egyptian sphinx
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: on there. So all that stuff right there is something
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: like I said, symbolism plays a big old part in
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: our communication. The problem is is we don't have the
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: knowledge behind what symbolism means because everybody has their own
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: way of.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: Putting it in there.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: It's just like people making up their own new words
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: for their own narrative, right, And you have to be
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: knowledgeable on their narrative and their words to understand both.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, Yeah, I agree as far as like and
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: you look at the obvious transformation like I personally knowing
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: just the individuals who have been affected by those very
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: same techniques, and just like a Jack Ruby for example,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: right where it's like, my god, that that guy was
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: obviously visited by Jolly on you know, uh West, doctor
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Jolly West, right, and and one hundred percent after this happens,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: what what occurred with Jack Ruby? Right? And remember when
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Tom O'Neil goes on Rogan and he tells him about
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: essentially what it had taken place to Jack Ruby while
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: he was in custody. And essentially it was basically a
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: well one after Jack Ruby shoots Oswald, right, you have
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: reporters who just go to his place in his apartment,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: rummaging around and all his things, uh, you know, and
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: uh and a significant number of those those reporters who
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: were rummaging around his his uh, his his apartment, they
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: all just seemed to later die under very mysterious circumstances
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: of course, and and uh. And so it turns out
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: that that basically Jolly West when he inserts himself into
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: that case. He goes to the Dallas County Jail and
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: in April of sixty four, right, and and this is
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: to psychologically examine Jack Ruby in preparation for his next trial.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: And this is right when Jack Ruby's like, I'm gonna
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: blow the lid off this shit, like, you know, I
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: if I'm not going to have a complete and total
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: protect Oh yeah, they mk ultra Jack Ruby and and
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: so one of and by the way, he's connected to
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: the club where Heidi Reich and the White House call Girl,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: and all the individuals who were politically affiliated with the
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: JFK assassination. They were partying at this club in Dallas,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: and Jack Ruby was there with Lee Harvey Oswald and
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Officer JD. Tippett one hundred percent and and also like
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: there were owners of football teams that were there that
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: was Texas oil men like and uh and it was
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: very interesting. But but that was all in Phil Stafford's
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: book The White House Call Girl. Very interesting book about
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Watergate technically. But but I'll finish this point and they
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: get back to the actual conclusion. But the point being
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: is that Jack Ruby's willing to talk, right. He's like, Man,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: if I'm going to have to take the fall for this,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: then I'm not going out silent, right. And so one
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: of Jolly West known techniques, by the way, was learned
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: throughout his research in the fifties, okay, and this was
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: how to induce insanity in a person without their knowledge
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: or awareness. And so West goes into examine Ruby, and
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: he would emerge from the county jail with the press
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: waiting for him to give a statement, and he announces
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: that within the preceding forty eight hours, Ruby happened to
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: have an acute psychotic break that was irrevocable. He couldn't
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: return to sanity. He had audio and visual hallucinations, and
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: during the exam, he said Ruby hit under a table
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: because he thought there were people in the room trying
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: to kill him. He told West that he could hear
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Jewish children's scream outside of jail cell as they were
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: boiled alive. That alone, I thought was very interesting, and
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: so especially when prior to his exam West exam there
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: was no evidence whatsoever that Ruby was mentally ill. And
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: West was alone with him in the cell and then
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: treated him for the next six months. And by the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: time Ruby finally gave his testimony to the Warren Commission,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: he was reportedly babbling and incoherent. He grabbed the investigator
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: for the Warren Commission, named Arlen Spector, and he said,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: don't you know they're killing Jews. I can hear them
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: being tortured outside my cell. They've killed my brother and
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: cut off his legs. They couldn't use anything from Jack
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Ruby's testimony to the Warren Commission. That's the whole, sole
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: purpose of what happened to him. In my mind, that
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: was induced insanity by Jolly West, who's you know, a
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: known operative behind him k Ultra and worked directly under
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: doctor Sidney Gottlieb, the black sorcer of m k LTRA himself,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: you know, and and and so yeah, with with man,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: it's it's so fascinating. And I'll finish with with the
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: with this really because it's it's basically just that Todd
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Klik was was one hundred percent. I think he was
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: deliberately targeted to destroy his reputation and it was all
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: due to the fact that he was going to blow
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: the lid off of this thing by providing the defense
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: for Richard Allen with a key witness who was a
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: member of an investigative federal task force investigating odonism. And
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: and and that is fascinating to me. So so he
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: you know, he basically Richard Allen, right, he expresses ah
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: essentially Richard Allen himself. As I mentioned, he's just a
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: shell of a human being anymore. And I'm not sure
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: what his state of mind is at this point. I
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: don't think he's making any statements whatsoever, but I haven't
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: yet followed up, so I would like to at this moment,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: but I'm wondering what the latest is on his sort
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: of defense attorneys and what they've kind of made public
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: as far as their statements, because I'm sure there are
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: some you know, more recent and more relevant connections here,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: but basically Richard Allen's defense, you know, they for the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: longest time and still to this day, as far as
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I can tell, have held this belief that it was
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: men with ties to Odinism that killed the girls as
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: part of a ritual sacrifice. And it's essentially they were
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: no longer allowed to bring that information before the jury
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: by October fourteenth of twenty twenty four, I believe, and
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: that included information the defense may have had on Ronald Logan,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Keegan Klein, including even like geo fencing data, and McCleland
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: objected to Click's assertions, claimed Click may have a history
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: of lying. So he instantly starts brings in the notion
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: that you know and kind of provides this sort of
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: pretext the public perception that this man has no you know,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: real credibility. And so this is the prosecutor McClelland so
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I think prosecutors, you know, what are they known for?
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't really think prosecutor's word is worth
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: taking at face value, but that's my personal opinion. And
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: so he then requests Clicks employment records after he makes
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: that public statement, and it was later reported in April
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four of last year, which that basically
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: this is when Francis Gold, the Special Judge, had approved
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McClelland's motion to get Rushville Police
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Chief Todd Klick's personnel records to discover if he had
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: any issues that might impeach his credibility as a witness
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: for del Fi murder suspect Richard Allen. That's the path
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: you would take if you wanted to undermine the credibility
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: of an investigator who who had clearly the what what
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Todd Klick claims is that the UH, the statements that
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: had been made claiming that he had made that he
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: had essentially lied in former reports that he had made
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: or filed were all just deliberately manufactured lies in order
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: to undermine his for that sole purpose, to undermine his credibility.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: And and so this is where after they they get
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: a hold of his personnel records, then this is when
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: you have sort of this UH Clicks investigation into the
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Olderness being involved in the killings of the Delphi teenagers.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Obviously uh being entirely just disregarded by the the court judge,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: by the judge who was presiding over the trial itself,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: and the prosecutor then indicates that they believed Clicks employee
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: records would show and this before they even looked at them,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: would show into of untruthfulness or credibility issues. So they're
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: just laying the bread crumbs for anyone who's following along
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: with the reporting on this trial. And so in the
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: subpoena that ordered the so there was a motion right
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: that was included in the subpoena that ordered the Rushville
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Police chief to turn over the documents, and according to
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: these online records, Francis Goull, the judge, signed the court
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: order for the subpoena, and Rushville Police Chief Todd Klick,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: member of the Odinism Investigative Unit, formed in twenty eighteen
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: just after the killings and an expected key defense witness
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: in the Delphi murders trial, was subsequently arrested and charged
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: by Ripley County authorities with forgery, official misconduct, and obstruction
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: of a child abuse assessment while working as a family
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: case manager with the Department of Child Services from July
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three to March twenty twenty four. And that
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: was when Judge Francis Goule used that as an opportunity
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: to block all testimony about odinism during the trial virtual Allen.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: So that's all that it took. We we burn Todd
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Klick at the stake, right, we've already effectively managed Greg
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Ferency's dead right. The other investigator, Kevin Murphy, I believe
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: was his name. He I think he saw the writing
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: on the wall. You know. He basically says, man, I'm
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: gonna keep my mouth shut. I know what's good for me,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Honestly, that's what it seems like.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Because I would like to look further into if he
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: has had any kind of like uh, just just sort
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: of like ethical right grappling with his moral foundation in
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: certain aspects of how he dealt with this and and
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: uh and has come forward with any statement. I would
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: be be very curious to find if if that would
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: have been the case. But who knows. As far as
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I know, Kevin Murphy's just kept his mouth shut from
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: that moment on and and and as far as the
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm, for one, very skeptical of the charges being
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: levied against former investigator Todd click Man. I mean, I
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: think that this was a strategic undermining of his personal
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: credibility while you can sort of simultaneously provide the pretext
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: for the judge to block all the testimony regarding the
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: clear and obvious Odinus connections. And the initial hearing was held,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: it was in October of last year, right, and that's
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: when you had Todd Klick. He was released on an
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: or you know, because he didn't have any I mean,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: he didn't have any character issues, Like what are we
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: talking about? This guy was a member of a task
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: force for a reason, because you know, it's like not
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: saying that all federal investigators are are moral or anything
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: of that nature. I'm just saying that usually you aren't
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: named to a task force unless you're compromised and your
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: sole purpose is to sort of provide a misdirected narrative
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: or or at least control the framework of the investigation.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: You know, or you're you're undoubtedly, uh, some sort of
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: honorable individual investigator who is trustworthy and and you know,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: worthy enough of being placed onto an investigative task force
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: of that of this kind, and that they would have
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: so so much, uh you know, as far as the
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: consequences the implication of the consequences involved in in that
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: very investigation, That's how how I would feel at the least.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: And and so you have him being released on an
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: o R. And the pre trial hearing was just a
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: you know, as far as it's a total joke, and
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: his actual trial date was set for in February, right,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: and then, yeah, Todd Klick was an innocent man. And
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: so I think they've just forced him into retirement is
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: basically what happened. And and and for me personally, you know,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I think this is uh, this is evidence of kind
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: of the inverted moral landscape that we perfectly reside in
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: at this moment. And I think so much of what
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: like the uh the sort of I think there's an
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: inherent exploitation of the God whole within all of us,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever you believe that to be or however
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: you describe that in your own uh you know, kind
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: of personal just the terms you would prefer to utilize. Uh,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's fundamentally we all are trying
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: to make sense of this in a desperate way, you know,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: in a way to where we're relying on these principles
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: that many of us have yet to fully identify and
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: acknowledge and under and become aware of, just as far
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: as what are the ethical values worthwhile to pursue an
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: exercise to to add to my what I believe as
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: the core values worth upholding in my life, and and uh,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: and therefore you become, you become susceptible and vulnerable to
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: this new wage, esoteric ideological system of control in an
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: attempt to usher us into this trap of embracing these
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: new age values that I believe are entirely in the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: framework of this you know, deliberately and deceptively manufactured inverted
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: moral landscape. And here we are, you know, we're surrounded
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: by the pedophile elite, you know, And I mean we're
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: attempting and every four years we're we're basically convinced that
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: we have a part to play in the system, you know.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: And it's just to me. I think what we should
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: focus on most is our own personal well being and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: our own legitimate core values and our own personal individual
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: lives and surrounding ourselves with people who I think bring
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: the best out on you. And you know, that is
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: what I'm desperate to do, is surround myself with people
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: who I admire and I can learn from, you know, honestly, guys,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: and and so anyway, at this point, I'm just I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: definitely believe that that this was a deliberate attempt to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: obscure the vision of the general public, right and and yeah,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I think that this this an example and another window
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: into the darkest layers of modern society, man and and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: we're largely remaining in the shadows, right And you mentioned earlier, Uh,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: you know, we we talked about mana and and this
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: sort of even potential cannibalistic nature of some of these
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: uh you know, blood sacrifices, or at the very least
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: these sort of ceremonial, symbolic exercises that at least kind
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: of lend their the the entire ceremony to the idea.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: And thisymbolic nature of the blood sacrifice. I think it's uh,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: it's just to me, man like, it is very very
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: strange time that we're living in right at this moment,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: and and it's up to us to remain headstrong, honestly,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: because I think these individuals that that I view as
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: through that same lens of of know your enemy, right,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, the the are we all? I believe we
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: all share a common enemy, right, and and and this
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: common enemy is possessed with you know, honestly the darkest ambitions,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: and and and the vast majority are are very unaware,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I believe, and so so personally, I just think that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: the more conversations we can have where we attempt to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: shine a light in the darkness, makes sense of of
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: what actually took place potentially, you know. I mean again,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I view this as a far more plausible alternative theory
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: than that of the mainstream narrative. Right, and so that's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: the profound as far as in my mind, there's this
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: inverted moral landscape. It's essentially it leaves us with this
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: profound sense of righteous indignation in a certain way. And
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I think that's good, you know. I think that we
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be content with the current structured system in place,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: but also we shouldn't let it destroy us, because what
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: is the intention to set us on the path of
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: ideological subversion? And what is the first stage demoralization?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: And so I try and steer away from that, I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: think there is beauty in conversations such as this, which
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I mentioned at the beginning, provides me with the real,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: honest sense of hope moving forward. So, yeah, man, I'm
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: entirely under the under the impression that you know, this was, yeah,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: this was a legitimate cover up that essentially, you know,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: it shrouded the actual just intentions behind the ritualized murder
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: and blood sacrifice and the belief system that is sort
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: of standing tall behind the actual details of the criminal
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: case and how the bodies were discovered in every aspect
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: of it, and that has now been entirely set aside
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and ignored, and it's not even a part of the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: official narrative. And so that in itself, I felt like,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: drew me to this story because where again intended to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: remain in the darkness and unaware of this sort of
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: real power paradigm, you know how it kind of functions.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: So anyway, I don't know, it blows my mind this case,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, And it's unfortunate that And oh yeah,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I found something else about Oh yeah, I had discovered
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: that there was a free Masonic cemetery very nearby that
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: that death ritual site of Abby and Libby, and I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: forgot the name of it. I should have brought it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I forgot it till just now. I should have brought
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: this source with me, because if I would have remembered,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: I would have pulled it. But but there is a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: free Masonic cemetery, a private cemetery that is like eerily
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: close to the area of where Abby and Libby were sacrificed,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: and that again kind of lends a little bit more
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: of credibility to the idea that maybe Ronald Logan and
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: you know, was entirely you know, connected to this Vnlander
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: group and the individuals involved in the local chapter. And
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: especially when you look at let me pull this up
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: because this is fascinating and it's the picture I wanted
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: to share with you guys before we get out of here,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: and that is it kind of blows me away. Let's see,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. All right, let's see if I can
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: share this. There you go, buddy, Now look at this guy.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: This is what William Ramsay sent me basically saying that
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: this could be the bridge guy and this is one
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: of the the sketches composite scam. He looks really close,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: very close right.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like you can't even like with the hoodie and
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: the hat. Yeah, you definitely couldn't be able to.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: And then look at this, this is him. Oh shit,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: so thirty three baby, Yeah, so somebody sent me this
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: that picture and they said hey, brother, and was just
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: telling me I did well with William and then sent
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: me this. I believe it was posted literally thirty three
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: days after the killing of Abby and Libby, so that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: in itself crazy. This was posted on Brad Holder's Facebook
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: page thirty three days after the actual deaths of Abby
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: and Libby. Along with the symbolic nature of the ruins
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: that they were posting and the crime scene photo portrait
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: that they posted that at least resembled directly that of
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: the crime scene, then I believe this was Brad Holder
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: was was potentially the bridge guy. And I think that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: this had to have been an initiatory, you know, ritual sacrifice.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know how else you could kind of explain
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: it away.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: But let's not forget that the G and you know,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: a sonic symbol, the letter G is number seven of THEE.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: So seven again, my god, that that's just crazy to me.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And but yeah, we are now left with the consequential
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: outcome being that Richard Allen is the sole perpetrator, right,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: and that he had no affiliation with odinism.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: They even got that picture on on uh on Wikipedia?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Do they really?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they got that picture on Wikipedia. I just pulled
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: it up.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: It's uh wow, it's crazy. Yeah. And that's just too identical.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Man, that's just way way too identical, at least telling
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: you to like that's crazy.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't. I couldn't at every level. I was convinced. Man,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I'll be one hundred percent. Uh yeah, I'm convinced that that.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like we named the perpetrators that murdered Abby
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: and Libby today. I honestly do. And you know the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: fact that these individuals are are insulated from any real
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: accountability and still remain, you know, outside of any objective
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: pursuit of justice.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: It just bugged out, even the hat and everything, dude, man,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: just like it does.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: Man, That's what I'm saying. Hey, let me ask you something, bro.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: Have you ever tried to contact him at the correctional
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: facility in Oklahoma?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: I have not, man, I just uh, I honestly I
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: probably should, right, I.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: Try to look his I try to look him up
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: on there, they say that he transferred over there. But
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: when you try to type in his name and his
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: birthdate and all that stuff into the to the correction facility.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: It says there's nobody there.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: And then of course on the top it says a
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: little small fine print, you know, it says, you know,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: they're updating their stuff.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: And blah blah blah blah blah.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: But I mean he's been there for a minute now,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: so they should have been done, had his up So yeah,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: something they right. And then then the question is is
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: why did they transfer him in the first place, you
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, why did they transfer him?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: What was the point of transferm Was it for his safety?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: Was it because he was going to do some things
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: that you know, people were going to get catch notice
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: of it. You know, when you transfer somebody you don't
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: necessarily have to update that information in there quick.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: You could just you can wait till the day they
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: die and updated and then say this east one.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Hundred percent man, yeap that it doesn't feel right to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: me at all, and especially just after hearing that he
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: was transferred, I instantly, you know, a red flag went
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: up in my mind, right, just it doesn't tend to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: happen for no reason, right, and especially considering the abuse
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: he allegedly endured during the time that at Westville. Yeah,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: it only adds more to to sort of the substance
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: of what potentially could be happening theoretically to Richard Allen.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, how do you keep someone silent? How do
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: you hide someone away for right, convict them, give them
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: the maximum sentence for each charge, right that you possibly
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: can essentially force them to remain silent throughout the trial.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's honestly, it's crazy. How what a
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: sort of miscarriage of justice this really truly was in
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: terms of Richard Allen and how his defense attorneys were treated.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I do believe that mcclealand the prosecutor
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: was entirely compromised. And we know that that obviously. You
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: know the detective was it Holloway or I can't remember now,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: but either way, the detective, who was clearly the leading
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: one of the leading members on the the the unified command,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: was obviously compromised as well. Right, And so that in
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: my mind, beyond the fact that Francis Gould, the judge
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: did everything in her power to sort of stand directly
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: in front of of as far as she was, she
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: was making sure that she would she would take every
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: single precautionary measure in order to make sure that none
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: of this evidence would come forward and none of it
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: would ever become public in terms of the individual jurors
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: being exposed to it, let alone the defense having the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: ability to you know, to utilize it. So how can
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: you actually defend Richard Allen if you can't provide the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: odinism defense? Oh yeah, right, yeah, I mean there's no way.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: So that was all they had to successfully achieve, and
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I think they did, you know, honestly, So I'm not
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: at all really surprised due to the fact that I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: just understanding the historical context of how they pursue these
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: cover ups and also the consequential outcomes of some of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: the most sadistic networks that seem to have state sponsorship.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: There's a hidden hand of intelligence that is clearly propping
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: them up, putting them into these positions where they are
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: insulated from accountability. And it's just to me, it's another
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: window into this sort of occult underground that you know,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: is deliberately kept in the shadows. I mean, they would
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: really appreciate if we weren't initiated as far as our
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: understanding and ability to interpret the motivation, the the the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: sort of intention behind many of these events. And because
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: if you aren't even willing to have an open mind
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: and consider the idea that a ritualistic sacrifice would be
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: a part of these murders, then good luck solve in
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: this crime, you know what I mean, Like it's that's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: legitimately how it is. And so if you have the
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: general public dismissing this at face value due to the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: extraordinary nature of the allegations themselves, that's a strategic outcome
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: in itself if you're attempting to cover up right and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: and and I think that happens so often, And then
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: they also are aware of the idea of layering using
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: it in a layered strategic way to where most of
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: the general public will and inherently sort of dismissed these
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: these more extraordinary allegations if they are on you know,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: unaware of these connections and these unfortunate organizations that do
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: exist that pursue these these uh just obvious people are
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: unaware that it never ends with just human trafficking, right.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: It always the enterprise is wide in scope, you know,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: and you have organ harvesting and and you know, every
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: single layer to this is it's a criminal enterprise where
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: it all blends together basically targeted assassinations, you know, and
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: human compromise, sexual black male satanic ritual abuse. Right. I mean,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: at every level, there's there's truth to all of this,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: and it's been i think conveniently and strategically. You know,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: there's been these sort of I think these very much
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: misdirected just kind of mechanisms that were very much like
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: laid into these strategic positions in order for the general
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: public not to be able to come to terms with
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: any of these ideas in a way where it seems
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: like you can remain credible. And I think that's the issue,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: is that so many people, if you discuss something from
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: this angle, they're concerned about being dismissed and their credibility
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: taking a hit. And I think that's a huge mistake.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: You know, it's obviously I think one of the reasons
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: that this sort of preconceived notion has been very much
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: conditioned into the minds of the general public, and it's
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: for that purpose, you know, So I'm just very yeah,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. Before I forget exactly what you just
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: said right now, I wanted to kind of capitalize them
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: exactly what you said and kind of highlight what you said.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: And Nick has mentioned this before in other episodes, and
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: we've kind of mentioned it when we cover some of
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: this true crime stuff. If you want to look at
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: each end visual true crime situation, and everything is so questioned,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: everything is so questionable. One thing, one resounding theme you
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: will see is that all the characters in the story
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: are polarizing. You literally have a camp on either side
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: of every single character in any true crime story. And
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: I do believe that is on purpose. I do believe
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: that there are characters as in a reality show. I'm
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: not saying that these that didn't happen. I'm saying this
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: is probably the ultimate what is it? Reality TV? And
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: if you look at specifically with the Delphi, they're wanting
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: to bring cameras into the courtroom. They're wanting to televise
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: what's being said. Why Because so much money is being
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: made off of the true crime industry, whether it is podcasts,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: whether it is gofundmes, whether it is anything. I mean,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: I had heard that a lot of people had driven
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: to Delphi, Indiana just to look at the site, so
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: that not only money and tourism as well. And you're
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: about cornering a market that had yet to ever be explored.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: And now you're making bank regardless of who it is,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: regardless of what angle it is. And then you're now
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: also having these what is it called expert witnesses that
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: for all of these high profile cases. Someone mentions in
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: the chat about the false memory loftus he has literally
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: been in Gieslaine Maxwell's things. She's also worked on other
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: cases as well. There it's escaping right now. But if
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: you look at the form the firm that she worked for,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: that firm also was expert witnesses in other serial killer
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: or mass in mass type true crime cases. And so
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: you and then you think, well, is this all by design?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Will if you look at the research that some of
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: these psychologists or some of these forensic people are looking into,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: it's a public perception. It's way the public how can
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: we put this into the zeitgeist and kind of sway opinion?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: And we're now seeing the court of public opinion on
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: stage as an actual person or character alongside the jury,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: really anything even more vocal than the jury itself. So
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: I do think that exactly what you just said that,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I do think that that also be in the back
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: of our mind that this is potentially being woven for
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: us as well from.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: Someone Sometimes I wonder, like what you're pointing, at least
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: you know you'll see that also kind of like carry over.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: I know this isn't gonna sound the greatest, but you'll
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: see that carry over into politics and conspiracies.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: And I think it's giving.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: People the delusion that if they think they know something
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: and they're saying it on the internet, it changes and
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: it's not going to change shit.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: Right, Bro.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: That's why there's so many damn arguments because they exactly
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: and then the funny thing is when you try to
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: correct them and give them a little bit of knowledge
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: or at least a little bit to help them on
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: their journey to they didn't want to, you know, say
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: all kinds of negative things to you, and I just
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: that's that's when I turn into the Jerry Springer Show.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: I love it, but they always attack the messenger though, brother,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: I know that much. That's how I've experienced in my
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: time as far as just my personal it is hilarious
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: how like the individuals you know and love and should,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: you know, should kind of like understand that you have
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: their well being at heart, that you're considering that at
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: the very least there are. So it's interesting how much
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: people are far more open minded to learning from perfect
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: strangers than actually legitimately open mindedly considering ideas from individuals
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: they know and love, right, Because it's just a funny
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: sort of situation to find yourself in. But I've learned
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: that over time obviously, like I'm not responsible for anyone
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: else else's sort of path, you know, in terms of
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like you have to you have to kind
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: of expose yourself to these ideas on your own terms,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: because if not, then I think it's always going to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: be sort of kill the messenger in a way, right,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: because you are now kind of shaking their entire structured
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: ideological framework of how society functions. And that's terrifying because
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: what happens when that veil falls to the way side.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: You're no longer a naive child who's engaging in this
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: sort of cartoonish black and white version of reality. You're
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: starting to see the deeper layers of things. You either
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: you kind of decide you choose to do one of
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: two things. You either slam your head back into the
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: sand or run away kicking and screaming, or you continue
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: forward and pursue that path of objectively, you know, finding
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: the truth, and like you will only I think benefit
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: in the long run if you have a decent moral
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: foundation and certain ethical principles strongly in place. I think
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: you only benefit in the long run from pursuing that
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: objective truth. But yes, so very often I just witness,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: you know, people sort of they get very frustrated and
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: upset and don't know how to defend their own sort
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: of ideological position, and so then they inherently act out.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: It's kind of fortunately, you know that.
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  Speaker 5: That's why for me personally, I always if I ever
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: say something, I have a source by me, I would
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: never say something. And the only reason why is because
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: I don't want somebody to believe what I'm saying.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: I want you to.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: Go and read the source that I've read that gave
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: me the idea and belief that I have that exactly
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: at least gave you the chance, at least giving you
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: the chance to come up on that same thing. Now,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: if you have a source that I don't have, I'm
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: going to buy that source and I'm going to research it.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: Then I'm going to go in there and break it
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: down based off of everything else that I've learned throughout
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: my journey. I don't care about being right. Being right
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: has nothing to do. I can't prove that I'm right because,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: for one, I can't go in the past and tell
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: you what actually happened. I can just go to the
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: people who are respected in the field, who have the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: knowledge behind the information, and I'll go there and I say, Okay,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: this is what this person says, and that's it. You know, now,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: if you want my opinion, my opinion is going to change.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: I cannot come up. I don't know how anybody sits
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: here and says that they've done so much research and
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: they come to.
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  Speaker 6: One fucking conclusion. How you've read so much shit? Would
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: you have one conclusion?
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: I have thousands of conclusions.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: Of what I because I know what different people have said,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: and I can take what they said and analyze it
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: and put my mind and my passion into it and
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: bring it to the to the world to say, hey,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: this is not me saying this is what the text say.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: And if you want to know what Texas says comes from,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: I'm giving it to you. That's why you will always
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: see me, always, always see me share a source always.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: I will always bring a source. And I've read thousands
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: of books. I've have plenty of soorts of peer reviewed articles.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: I have my own book. I stick to the foundation.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: If you don't know the foundation, you can't build a house.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: You just can't.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: So my foundation is what the basics of the information says.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: And I'm going to find the individuals that have that
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: information and I'm going to bring it to the world and.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: Say, hey, these are probably the people you want to
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 8: look at.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: Now. This is this is what I like to do
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: the most.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: Just because I once read one thing, I'm going to
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: find the other thing that counters it, so that way
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: I can see what the.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: Hell is in the middle. Because there's three sides of
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 6: the story.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: On their side, there's the other side, and then there's
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: the side in the story in the middle. That's what
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: I'm coming in. And I'm a libra, so I'm going
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: to try to balance that out as.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: Much as possible. Okay, you're right, Okay, now you're wrong,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 8: now you're right, and now you're wrong.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna keep shifting it until I come to
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: an understanding for myself. Now, what i believe is based
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: off the information that I've learned, you know, exactly learned
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: what I've learned.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: You have to go through the same shoes that I
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: did to get there, you.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, So to say the same thing. Man, Honestly,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: I've created for quite some time now, I've said all
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: that I bring to the table, are you know legitimate
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: sources that have convinced me otherwise?
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: And so all that I ask are you know? If
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: you're one, if you're interested, you would like to dig further,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: you would like to attempt to corroborate some of the
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: evidence I put forward, and like go to the sources
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: that I mentioned, uh and and definitely breed through them yourself,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: because I wouldn't have brought it to the table if
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: I hadn't been fully convinced otherwise through this kind of
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: avenue of you know, accumulating these various sources that that
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: provided me with this far more plausible alternative theory. And
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: that's all I'm doing. I'm hoping that people will see
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: that this is what changed my mind. And that's the
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: reason I'm bringing it to the table is because I
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: think it's profound and and uh and also I think
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: it's very important to to not have this sort of
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: ultimate uh at least agenda. I don't really have an agenda.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just attempting to pursue the truth man, and sure
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: that it's like you want to go along the ride
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: with me, because I would love That's.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: No, your your opinion has if you're doing research, and
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: you're really doing research, your stance has to evolve. It
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: has evolved. If it does not evolve, your on you
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: might as well just give it up now, because that
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: is a purpose, is to evolve in your stance. And
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: exactly what I said, some of these older scientific articles
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: that you look back and that are so well done,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: they have exactly that. In their discussion. They give you
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: their results, but then they present the papers that are
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: that basically support their data, and they also provide papers
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: that don't support their data, and then kind of towards
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: the end they give an analysis of why they think
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: the papers that did support their data said that, and
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: why the papers that didn't support their papers may have
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: said that as well, So it's it's a very balanced
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: delivery of a discussion of based.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: Not on Yeah, you know what I always tell people
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: I see everybody. A lot of people says, Oh, you
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: just want to be right, rebirth, you just want to
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: be right. I don't want to be right. I want
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: to be wrong. And I tell you why I like
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: to be wrong. It's because I learned better being wrong.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: I learned from my mistakes, and I don't want to
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: repeat the same studidshit that I said before. If you
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: get the source that counter is what I said and
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: it's accurate, I'm going to be like, Okay, damn shit,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: I was wrong. Well I was wrong, my source was wrong.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: So now I know better. So next time I can say, Okay,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: this is what I've learned, and this was what this
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: person taught me. Afterwards, It's not about being right for me,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: it's just about gaining knowledge. If I if i'm I
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: can't live in a bubble. I can't live in the
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: bubble thinking that one thing is right. That's why I
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: like to read something that goes with what I learned,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: and then I like to read something that goes against it.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: So I'm reading the counter argument, and I'm reading many
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: of these counter arguments, and I'm finding the people.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 8: Who argue with each other right the people.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: A lot of people don't realize this.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: In the Greek times, there was a time where they
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: would go to the middle of the city or some
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: area and they would and two people would have a discussion,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: and they will be arguments.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: They would curse at each other, they would.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: Tell each other stupid, and this, that and third, and
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: then the next day they would go back there and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: then they would have that same discussion and they would say, well,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: did you look up what I told you or did
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: you do your due diligence from that? And if you
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: don't do your due diligence, then you're only just trying
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: to create a narrative for people to believe what you believe.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: I don't want people to believe what I believe, because
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you you're not going to be able to
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: believe what I believe, because it's going to change daily.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: Every time I pick up a damn book, my mind
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: goes from regular to exploding. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: because I can't figure out what the hell I had
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: one idea just two three days ago, two three months ago,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: two three years ago, I read something that totally changed that.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: Now I'm back in, going back to the beginning with everything.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: But I love that because it tells me that, hey,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: I'm involving, just likely to say I'm involved, I'm taking knowledge,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: and I'm saying, okay, I learned this two three years ago.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: It wasn't correct, and let me go ahead.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: And that's why I like a lot of revised books,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: because if you read the revised books, and I give
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: you a perfect example, a lot of people talk about
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: Darwinism them a lot don't realize that Darwin revised his.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: Books over and over again, and he's died.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: And if you're picking one thing out is out of
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: his book that you're going to create a narrative on,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: I can go to a revised version be like, shit,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: he did say he messed up there, So what's your
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: point now?
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  Speaker 2: So absolutely I admire that, and that's that's a beautiful
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: characteristic to embrace honestly and live by. I appreciate any
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: time any because you can't have, as I mentioned, an
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: agenda to be right. That doesn't even make sense, you know,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: And and so my entire goal is just to once
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: again somehow make sense of it for myself, right, And
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: and through that process I hope to discover the objective truth, Right,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: that's the goal. And so I'm always attempting to consider
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: the counter argument, as you mentioned before, and and because
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: if you if you aren't giving yourself a well rounded
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: picture of the full spectrum, right, the broad scope of things,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: then you're limiting your vision and perspective. You're not going
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: to have the ability to engage in an honest way
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: in the first place, because you're at a disadvantage inherently
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: so that you've you put yourself in that position, right,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: And we're all in that position anyway, we're all under
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: agnowled as far as like we're all there's so many
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: things that we've all yet been exposed to you have
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: yet to be exposed to, I mean, right, And and that
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: in itself leaves us at a disadvantage. But all we
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: can hope for is to remain sort of centered and
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: grounded in a way to where we are acknowledging that
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: fact and moving forward, you know, understanding that there's so
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: much more for me to learn here. But still I
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: think that in terms of these these like the example
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: of Delphi itself, right, if you, I think it takes
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: getting yourself to to kind of like you have to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: already be digging below the surface at a deeper layer
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: of understanding before you're even willing to engage with a
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: case such as this. And from the angle that we're taking,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I think that that I
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: stumble across many of those people. But fortunately for us,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of sloppy psychological operation is happening all
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: over the place, you know, at all times. And you
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, I.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: Think, right, so you've got too many going on, they're
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: getting sloppy about it.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: One hundred and so more and more people from all
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: walks of the political spectrum are becoming more willing to,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: you know, at least engage in certain more open minded
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: conversation than I've seen previously. I do appreciate that, and
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, maybe that is a sign
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: for optimism at the very least, you know. But at
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: the same time, it's like, once again, I'm not responsible
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: for any of that. It's just, you know what I mean,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just here hoping for the best, expecting the worst
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: most of the time, and that's not that's not a
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: black pill. I just think it's a little bit of
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: being realistic in a certain sense, just as far as
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: holding out a hope for political puppets and things of
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: that nature is just you know, to me ignorant. You know,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: you've yet to learn from your previous mistakes, right and
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: and uh and so I'm grateful that I can opt
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: out of this and kind of distance myself from feeling
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: as if I play a direct part in the consequential
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: outcome and the nature of the current state of reality
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: and the power paradigm itself. Like and we're all kind
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: of just children waking up in the middle of a
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: movie theater, right, like trying to figure out the plot
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: that's honestly way into the movie.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: Right Yeah, Yeah, we're all children still at the chalkboard
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: trying to learn our alphabet this.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I put it in when I was
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: on Nefluindes squad the other day. They asked me because
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: I've been like, I think I've just been one. I
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: think I've just been probably over I think I've been one.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: I've been having too many of these, Like, first of all,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: I've been remaining on this path of investigation into certain
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: out trafficking networks. I've spent too much time bogged down
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: and the disgusting, uh you know, disturbing details of the
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: cases and things of that nature, and it has an
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: overall emotional toll. It legitimately does, and you have to,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: like for your own well being, pivot away to different
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: directions of interest and and and and uh and pursue
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: other avenues of thought because it I remember, uh and
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Raven put it as I sort of gazed into the abyss,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: that sort of situation and all that all that it
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: reminded me of was eight Millimeter, the film by Nicholas
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: Cage n right, so crazy, and it kind of introduces
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: the concept of a snuff flash today.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: I remember that as a kid, probably disturbing brother.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and but but gosh, I mean, like,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: the the issue is that snuff films have been essentially
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: labeled as an and mischaracterized as an urban myth for
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: how long. I mean, it's just laughable at this point, right,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: And and that that kind of fits perfectly with the
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: manufactured uh you know, sort of satanic panic hysteria, attempt
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: to to miss label and misdiagnose and misdirect the true
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: uh truly occurring and legitimately, you know, at least I
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: think there's plenty of evidence that proves that real satanic
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: ritual abuse has occurred, you know, and and uh, they
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: say they satanic panic was sort of just this way
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: to uh, you know, clearly sort of you know, I
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: think the point was to obviously create this this uh
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: really this manufactured misconception. I think that that was the
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: ultimate agenda there, and it sort of falls in line
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: with the concept of serial killers at this point as well,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: I think personally. But but uh, it's this manufactured misconception
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: that was the conveniently constructed uh, satanic panic excuse and
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: just an oversimplification of mass hysteria and and in reality,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: eight millimeter The reason that I brought it up because
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: it reminded me that one, this is what I do
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: love about sort of you know, having a fictional narrative
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: be extremely valuable in terms of introducing the public to
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: the notion that snuff films exist and and eight millimeter
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: film strips are how effectively these pedophile networks can circumvent
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: being discovered through shipping child pornography through the mail. And
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: so if you keep them as undeveloped eight eight millimeter
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: film strips, then they will not be able to discover
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: what's on the film, and therefore you can sort of
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: circumvent the legal process and and distribute child pornography. And
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: so I didn't realize that until recently. But in uh,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: in watching that movie, there's a scene right where where
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: Joaquin Phoenix is a character in the in the movie,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: and he basically works at a porn shop and he's
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: behind the counter, and he behind the counter like he
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: has he has the uh. He essentially is selling things
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: behind the count below, you know, under the table, behind
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: the counter. He'll sell things on behalf of the criminal
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: enterprise that's participating in let's say, child pornography or ritualistic abuse,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: snuff films, things of that nature. And I will remember
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: when he took him to this sort of this underground
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: pedophile establishment where there's all these rooms where they're screening
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: these snuff films and these child pornography films, and he
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: takes Nicholas Cage there, who's basically this private investigator who
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: got hired by this elitist, a widow woman who she
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: just became a widow her husband was a kind of
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: a member of a higher echelon of society. She had
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: all the respect and love farm in the world. At
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: least that's how the plot is staged at the beginning,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: and she discovered in his private safe after his death
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: this undeveloped eight millimeter films trip and so she calls up,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: gets this private investigator who's Nick Cage, who comes and
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: screens privately this eight millimeter film strip, and he viscerally
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: reacts to the point to where he instantly thinks this
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: is real. There's no way this is faked, although he
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: tries to justify for himself this is faked, but he
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: reacts like anyone would if they saw a real person
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: go through that, you know what I mean, which to me,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: obviously it makes it a yeah, far more in terms
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: of I think it And obviously it was a snuff
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: film in the context of the plot, but the point
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: being that the character Walking Phoenix told Nicholas Cage's character
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: before he enters the room to screen one of those
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: snuff films, and he tells him he dance with the devil.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: The devil doesn't change, the devil changes you, and that
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: like resonated with me honestly, it did. And I think
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: it's just because I've overexposed myself to a lot of
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: the disturbing details in terms of how many of these
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: child sex trafficking operations have functioned. It resonated with me
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: to my soul.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm pissed at the Epstein list didn't get it.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: And I'm sorry to get tear from that, but I'm
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: pissed at That's why the list hasn't been brought out,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: because all we heard for the last few years is
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: once I make this presidency, I'm want to release the records.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: Then they said they hit on the fucking table, on
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: the desk and all that, and.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 6: Boom now now it's fake. Now it's fake.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: And I'm just like, come on, man, these are children, yo, Like,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: these are fucking children.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean. Vulnerable, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: And if you have children, you know that's going to
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: hit deep in your heart. And I mean, I'm not
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: saying that anybody that doesn't have children, that.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: Won't, but Jesus Christ, like, what the fuck?
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: Like, some people don't put their I just don't get it, bro,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: And it really irritates me and pisses me off that
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: people treat children like this. You know what I mean,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: children don't kids don't have a protective How can I
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: say they.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: Have no protectors?
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they have no protectors except us and the ones
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: that are supposed to be protecting them.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 6: They're just throwing everything under the under the bridge like
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 6: it's not ship. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you I could never witness something like that
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: and keep my mouth closed.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: I just couldn't. I couldn't, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: And it's crazy that that we got to this, to
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: this level of shame that we're putting on on on
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: our human side of things. You know, there are person
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: there is no reason why that a child should have
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: to worry about whether they're going to live and die
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 5: when they go outside, that they're going to get kidnapped.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. There's no reason that a
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: child should have to worry about that.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: No person periods should have to worry about that, but children,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: let alone. You know I'm saying, the most vulnerable, Like
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: you said, it's just it's sickning man man.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: You know, when I covered the Franklin scandal, oh Man
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was Franklin led me to the Finders,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: and I wound up at Mark de Trow and it's
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: just like, my god, it never ends, man, you know.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: And and but but I am. I'm under the impression now,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: and at some point in the future we might have
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: to do another one on this because I'm so well
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: aware of the overlapping connections between Franklin, the Finders, the
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: Atlanta child murders, of the Dean Choral murders in Houston. Uh,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: John Wayne Gacy, John Wayne that he's, oh, yeah, it's crazy,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: and and uh and we have you know, it's the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: politically protected sort of pedophile underground. That's what it truly is.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: And and and uh And the Franklin scandal, the way
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: I described it was it truly kind of exposed the
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance, forcing us to grapple with the psychological consequences
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: of a corrupt system designed to protect prolific predators in
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: the elite strata of society who strategically forged political connections
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: and media influence. A dark and twisted odyssey revealing a
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: nationwide pedophile network pandering children to America's power elite. And
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: Nick Bryant himself, who wrote The Franklin Scandal. He says,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: this stuck with me forever, and when we had him
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: on the show, I brought this up and it legitimately
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: when I read this, it's what truly took for me.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: The Franklin Scandal helped really remove that veil of naivete
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: in terms of how these state sponsor child trafficking operations
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: have truly, you know, been facilitated and covered up, and
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: what he said in terms of our society in the book,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: he writes, I wasn't so much anguished by the threats
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: and intimidation I endured delving into the arcane mysteries of
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: this universe, but rather by the realization of its very existence,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: a universe that encompasses the refined industrial destruction of children
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: and its cover up by the very state and federal
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: authorities who have pledged to protect children from the depravity
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: of evil men. The children and our society as a
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: whole have been betrayed, and that just like you know,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: my heart and soul could not could not be represented,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: you know, in any better way, honestly, And this is
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: the environment we exist in, and it's up to people
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: like us who are at the very least willing willing
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: to dive into these dark avenues of investigation, you know
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: what I mean. And yeah, it's only then that you
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: can kind of provide yourself right with with a with
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: some sort of fundamental framework for how this is truly
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: being facilitated underneath our noses and before our very own eyes,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: you know. And yeah, the Trow, My god, the Trow
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: is the worst thing I've ever read in my life.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: I've never been more I've never been more affected than
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: when I read through the X one dossier right the
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: ex the Belgium X Files. We're talking the most sadistic
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: and sinister forms of sexual abuse on children you could
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: ever imagine. I couldn't even imagine it until I read
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: through it, that's how disturbing it is. And I never
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: in my life did I read something and legitimately, dude,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: I couldn't read the next sentence, you know, like I
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: knew what I was about to read, and I had
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: like viscerally turned my face away from the computer said
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: fuck that, you know what I'm saying, Like it like
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: affected me that deeply.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: Ah, It's just.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you're not even human? You know
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: if you can do something like that to another person,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: let alone a child, you know. But anyway, damn, I'm sorry, guys,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: I haven't eaten all days anything that doesn't help.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: Well, this is wonderful, man, that great.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate you, of course, man. But I really am
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: willing if you guys ever want to in the future
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: do another episode on something that has to do with this,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: because this is probably my wheelhouse more than anything at
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: this moment. Unfortunately, is the brutal, unfortunate reality of the sadistic,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: sinister child trafficking operations. And yeah, unfortunately there's more evidence
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: than you would ever like to discover, you know, not to.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Be labor it, but I think another tangent that maybe
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: we can even do another episode on. It's not just pedophelia.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: It transcends that in that some of these groups or
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: these secret societies are trying to manifest or trying to
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: bring God into a vessel and control it. And so
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: sometimes we have to we have to s it see
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: it from a different perspective. It's still wrong, it's still evil,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: it's all that, but you also have to see it
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: that it's also for the benefit of themselves, not just
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: in that regard, and I think it gets chalked up
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: into oh, it's Satanism or it's ritual satan and abuse
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: and blah blah, and so they just lump it into
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: this category and it just goes on a shelf and
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: we never look at it again. But you're it's just that,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: and it's not just that, it's so many other facets
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: of so many other things.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: Actually chalking it off as satanism, I think actually kind
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: of plays down like what really could be.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I just think satanic ritual abuse. I used
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: the term because I think it's it's it refers more
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: to like SRA to me, refers to like this layering
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: in sort of there's a mind control aspect to it.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: There's there's obviously trauma based mind control through the monarch techniques,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: you know, administering these altars hypnotism so much is definitely involved.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: Pharmaceuticals very much involved. But you know, it's like they
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: have to they have to distort your brain chemistry, they
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: have to disrupt your neural pathways like they create. I
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: couldn't imagine when I was reading the XT dossier, hundreds
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: of different altars she had, and each of them were
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: like basically they were different ages, they spoke differently. One
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: of them was the whore that they had created in her,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: where she acted as if she deserved everything that happened.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: You know. It's just like, yeah, man, talk about submissive
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: being conditioned. You know, it's disturbing as hell. But yeah,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: that's the only reason that I kind of use the
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: term in a more like umbrella fashion, you know what
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 6: But I do agree with you.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: I think it's easier for people trying to get out
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: what you're saying just by using that as a brut
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: Tom No, I get that, but uh, listen again, thank
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: you for coming on.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: Please let everybody know where they can find all your
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: amazing work.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: Again, thank you so much, guys. I really do love
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: these conversations, and hopefully I wasn't too like I feel
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: like my mind works a little schizophrenic and sporadic at times,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: and I think I didn't eat today, so that doesn't
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: help with the clarity of my vision when I'm I'm
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: just going certain ideas. But uh, but yeah, I love
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: these conversations and meeting people who are emotionally affected in
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: similar ways. Yeah, it gives me hope. Man, You know,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: what I mean. So I can't thank you enough just
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: for the the ability to have these open minded conversations
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: and and kind of legitimately grapple with some of the
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: most difficult details that that you could really face in
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: an objective way, and and so but anyway, yeah, you
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: guys can all find me at The Underclass Podcast. Definitely
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: the best place to support me is patreon dot com
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: slash the Underclass Podcast. I have a paywallt show there
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: for just at least there's some incentive for listeners who
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: even at the three dollars to your level, you can
• 1:48:17
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• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: it's me and Brad Binkley from The Propaganda Report and
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Sam Tripley from timfoil Hat and it's been a lot
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: of fun. Actually, I saw them text me earlier and
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: I better text them back soon because I think they're
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: going to try and do the show today. So anyway,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: but yeah, that's definitely the best place to support me.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: And but yeah, beyond that, I have a show every
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: Tuesday night. It typically it's at nine thirty pm Eastern time.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: It's called Already Dead We do it. It's a call
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: in show.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: Plugged that if you didn't, I was going to say,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: you have a live show.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: Everybody, thank you, thank you. I know I've been so
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: bad about plugging that. For some reason I can't ever
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: remember too, I'm bad about my plugs in general. I'm
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: just like, thank you, guys.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 4: But so, yeah, he said, I interrupted you, So let
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: everybody know again when is it?
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 6: Oh you're good brother.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So every Tuesday night already dead nine thirty Eastern time,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: forty five minutes kind of shooting the bull, and then
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: we do another however long, just kind of hanging out
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: with the patrons or whoever calls in, and it's a
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: good time. We talk a little bit more of about
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: you know, current events, you know, more than than and
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: then also like whatever we're spurging on at the time,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: for my personal solo projects for the underclass that I'm
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: pursuing and things of that. My most recent one was
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta child murders and Wayne Williams and yeah, safe
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: to say I didn't expect an Iran contract connection there
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: and then things of that, but you know, hey, heck
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: it's a lot deeper. But yeah, so I encourage anybody
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: who's interested go check that one out. And I did
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: an interview about it as well with William Ramsey. It
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: was it was a lot of fun, pretty well received,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: so check that out. And and beyond that, I think we're
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: having Me and Me and Jewels are going to have
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: a donut on I think on Tuesday, So that'll be fun.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: Man to one ritual, Great Pilled, right Jewels from Great Pill.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: He also goes on your already dead sometimes as well. Correct.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, basically we made him the producer after Adam
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: from Deborget's Red Pill decided. You know, he he was
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: he had too much going on. He was trying he
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: had stopped doing the show anyway, and it was just
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: trying to focus on jiu jitsu and homesteading a little
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: bit more, which I admire very much. But so whenever
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: he decided he was going to bow out, Jewles just
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: offered his you know, He's like, hey man, I'll do it,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: and so Jose and I gave him that. You know,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: we we brought him in. It's been a lot of fun. Uh.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: So he's he's the producer and uh and we just
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: kind of try and bring sort of levity to the
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: situation in a way. We make it a more casual thing.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: I think it's very important to to decompress, but with
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: people that you are comfortable with, where you can kind of, like,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: you know, make it a more enjoyable, laughable you know
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: you can. It brings me back down to earth after
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there for the by myself for twelve hours,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: like reading the most disturbing details that you could imagine.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: I kind of need that outlet. So that's that's nice
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: to have. Definitely. But and Jose Gallison's my co host
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: of from Noway Jose, I love him to death. He's
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: my brother and h and beyond that. Thank you again, guys. Honestly,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it real quick, U Tyrone. You want to plug,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: you want to let everybody know what's up?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 6: Sure, thank you appreciate that.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: Well. Everything you can find about me is on my website,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: Rebirth Oftheword dot com. I'm a bestseller journey through the
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 5: origins of history that can be found on Amazon. I
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 5: do YouTube and all that stuff, but everything that you
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: want to know about me can be found on my website.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: It's a blog, of course, but I take little snippets
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: of what I've learned and I put it in a
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: little blocked and I go take that and put it
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 5: into my YouTube channel and Spotify and all that other stuff.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I appreciate it, Nick for let me come
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 6: here again. Man. Sorry I was late.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: Man, I'm telling you, I'm not gonna let that happen again.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: I'm definitely gonna be on it this time. You know
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 5: that that happened.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: I don't like that.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: I was in the military, man. I hate it be
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: in late b bro.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 3: So you know, I was thinking about that.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: I was like, I think, now on when I make
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: like the link to send out to everybody else, specify
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: the time in it so then nobody gets confused. You
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because it has happened to other
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: people besides you. It's happened to Julian and other people.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: So it's quite all right.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: Man. I'm glad you made it. Yeah.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 6: I really do appreciate it. I really appreciate it.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: You. I learned so much just listening to you guys
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: and sharing stuff. You know, Austin, you did great man,
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: Because I'm telling you, I'm gonna go back and read
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 5: that Norse mythology book just because of what you said.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna grab a couple of other ones that I
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 5: have in the in the other room, and I'm gonna
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: be on it, Like, why don't rits baby?
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: Awesome, man, I'm gonna buy that book now that you
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: showed me too. What was the author of that book?
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: It's just a it's not necessarily one book I think
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: you can get. I think it's a collection. But it's
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: by Jake Jackson, JK. E. Jackson. He has a whole
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: bunch of them, bro, I mean, like mythologies from everywhere.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 5: This is not even half of it right here, or
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: a quarter of it or anything. It's like it's like
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: a stack of them.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: Bro.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 5: The only reason why I pulled this one out was
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 5: because of course it was part of the Norse mythology, right.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: That's awesome, dude, Thank you Agavin, thank you. Yeah, I
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: appreciate it. I'm glad you made it, man, unless be
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 4: not least Lisa, what.
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  Speaker 3: Is going on?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Austin.
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  Speaker 7: That was an amazing, very thorough, very in depth discussion
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  Speaker 7: of Delphi and covered everything almost from the beginning, the intricacies, everything,
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  Speaker 7: court suspects, all kinds of little intricate details that I
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  Speaker 7: had heard literally from here and there whatever, you synthesized
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  Speaker 7: it all in one And I'm really really proud of
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  Speaker 7: this episode because if you want to know everything there
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  Speaker 7: is to know about Delfy, listen to this episode because
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  Speaker 7: you I said all.
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  Speaker 1: Together in a review like literally, that mean that's it.
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  Speaker 1: And so I feel very honored and privileged to have
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  Speaker 1: been on this episode with you presenting it the way
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  Speaker 1: that you did as much. I love thes that you know,
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  Speaker 1: Nick has enabled all of us to have at tour,
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  Speaker 1: and so very very honored, blessed to be a part
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  Speaker 1: of it and to be a part of the discussion.
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  Speaker 1: And the only thing I like to plug is a
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  Speaker 1: cult research institute dot org.
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  Speaker 4: You appreciate it, and again, thank you all. I mean
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  Speaker 4: that was a long one too. I appreciate all your
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  Speaker 4: time and thank you everybody in the chat. There was
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people in the chat that was here
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  Speaker 4: from the beginning to the end. I mean that was
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  Speaker 4: along with there was a whole bunch of new people.
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  Speaker 4: That's what's up. Thank you, and you all had great
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  Speaker 4: stuff to head too.
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  Speaker 1: So the chat, sorry, the chat, the new people. Thank
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  Speaker 1: y'all because y'all brought so much to the table and Tyrone.
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  Speaker 1: That's also some of the things that I love is
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  Speaker 1: that you pull up the images on the screen because
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  Speaker 1: it gets visual, and then all of the books. Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 4: It was definitely awesome, and thank you for the new
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  Speaker 4: people jumping on and again you can check our stuff
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  Speaker 4: out also on a bit shoot, Rumble and on audio podcast.
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  Speaker 4: I will say that the audio will have more episodes
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  Speaker 4: than what you see on YouTube because I won't censor
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  Speaker 4: the show, but I just won't put it on YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: So if you want to check it out, there will
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  Speaker 4: be more stuff on the audio obviously, But again, thank
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  Speaker 4: you all and Austin amazing work. And until the next one,
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  Speaker 4: everybody be well later