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- 0:00Speaker 1: Training camp is underway for twenty nineteen, Day two in
- 0:03Speaker 1: the books, it's time for another media round table. We'll
- 0:06Speaker 1: do this each and every week in training camp, and yes,
- 0:09Speaker 1: because people are clamoring, we'll do it every week during
- 0:11Speaker 1: the regular season as well. I'm JP Shadrick. He's carline
- 0:15Speaker 1: of Tintin XL with us today. What's up? Heyes, I
- 0:17Speaker 1: am doing great. JP. I enjoyed seeing your tweets the summer.
- 0:20Speaker 1: You're basically at every awesome tour on the planet, so
- 0:25Speaker 1: that's that was pretty awesome stuff to see and uh
- 0:27Speaker 1: doing great. Glad that the Jaguars are back out on
- 0:30Speaker 1: the field. It's always fun. I could have used another
- 0:32Speaker 1: couple of weeks, another couple of shows, but that's okay. Hey,
- 0:34Speaker 1: it's okay, it's we're glad. Do you still have anything
- 0:36Speaker 1: on the bucket list for shows after all the ones?
- 0:40Speaker 1: It's still deep, it's still deep. It's still we'll get
- 0:42Speaker 1: to that. Okay, it's football time. Hey, let's focus a
- 0:45Speaker 1: little bit. Apology. It's okay. Mike do Roco ESPN along
- 0:49Speaker 1: with us today as well. What's up? De Rock? Am
- 0:51Speaker 1: I doing here? Are we talking? I don't know what's
- 0:53Speaker 1: going on here. I'm doing well. No, you guys doing
- 0:56Speaker 1: well obviously too. But I'm having a good time. Many
- 0:58Speaker 1: concerts in Hyde Park. Did you see this? I saw?
- 1:01Speaker 1: Let me see none. That's what it was. That's what
- 1:04Speaker 1: it was. Played some bad golf though, So if that
- 1:06Speaker 1: makes up for it nothing new playing, Let's get to football,
- 1:12Speaker 1: shall we? Sounds good, you know. Doug Marone spoke earlier
- 1:17Speaker 1: this week on the opening day of camp, right before
- 1:20Speaker 1: camp opened, about the pace and and maybe you know,
- 1:24Speaker 1: talking about the injury bug a little bit last year
- 1:26Speaker 1: and how the first ten days were really where you
- 1:29Speaker 1: had a lot of soft tissue injuries in the past,
- 1:32Speaker 1: and then you really have to kind of take your
- 1:34Speaker 1: take your time into practice. I think there's a league
- 1:36Speaker 1: mandate on that. The first few days an acclamation period
- 1:39Speaker 1: of course, and then the shells go on I think
- 1:41Speaker 1: on Saturday and then full pads on Sunday all that.
- 1:44Speaker 1: What do you think of the pace so far? First
- 1:46Speaker 1: two days into rock it's like a day at the
- 1:48Speaker 1: spot out here after what they've gone through the last
- 1:50Speaker 1: two years. Um No, it's uh, you can tell that
- 1:54Speaker 1: it's a lot more um, I guess deliberate and a
- 1:58Speaker 1: lot less the tempo nowhere close to what it was
- 2:01Speaker 1: the last two years. And I completely understand that, um,
- 2:04Speaker 1: because believe me, again, as most teams, you can't this
- 2:09Speaker 1: team can't afford injuries. Uh And and I don't know
- 2:12Speaker 1: how much the physical camp last year contributed to the
- 2:15Speaker 1: fact that every offensive lineman that ever put on a
- 2:18Speaker 1: helmet here got hurt at some point last year. But
- 2:21Speaker 1: I do get the understanding of let's ease this stuff
- 2:23Speaker 1: into it and then you know, we can gradually increase
- 2:26Speaker 1: the physicality. It makes a lot of sense. It's just
- 2:28Speaker 1: not something that you would ever expect of Tom Coughlin
- 2:31Speaker 1: Doug Morown team to do. That's why it's a bit surprising. Yeah,
- 2:34Speaker 1: you know, Doug touched on it when he met with
- 2:37Speaker 1: the media yesterday prior to the first practice, about building
- 2:41Speaker 1: up to it, and you're gonna see differences. But I
- 2:43Speaker 1: thought he was really striking and what he told you
- 2:47Speaker 1: and Jeff on Thursday night, UM, we're basically he said
- 2:52Speaker 1: he I think he said, I don't think I've ever
- 2:55Speaker 1: said this. I don't think I said it last year.
- 2:57Speaker 1: I don't think I've said it to uh to the
- 2:59Speaker 1: report orders, but we've never I've never seen anything like
- 3:03Speaker 1: what we saw last year. And we had Nathaniel Hackett
- 3:06Speaker 1: say that before we got fired. Uh. But but yeah,
- 3:10Speaker 1: but we never had Doug really say that last year.
- 3:13Speaker 1: And you get it, you know, you're in the middle
- 3:14Speaker 1: of the season. But I think it does, uh put
- 3:17Speaker 1: an emphasis on that these this this group, this front office,
- 3:22Speaker 1: this coaching staff feels like if everybody stays healthy or
- 3:25Speaker 1: most everybody stays healthy, they have a chance to do
- 3:28Speaker 1: something really special with this group that they have here.
- 3:31Speaker 1: But I if they do get hit with some injuries,
- 3:34Speaker 1: it's just it's just hard. It's just it's hard to
- 3:36Speaker 1: have the depth and and they don't have it, uh
- 3:39Speaker 1: in a lot of spots probably, So I I still
- 3:42Speaker 1: want to see how deep into camp we get until
- 3:45Speaker 1: you really see the differences. I mean, pads go on Sunday,
- 3:48Speaker 1: so you know, I'll I still have to see it
- 3:51Speaker 1: to believe it in terms of them taking the pads
- 3:53Speaker 1: off way earlier than normal and and things like that.
- 3:56Speaker 1: But but you can tell that there is a definite
- 3:59Speaker 1: sense of the billing of we have to avoid injuries
- 4:02Speaker 1: because if we can do that and not hurt ourselves
- 4:04Speaker 1: before the chiefs come in here, we have a chance
- 4:07Speaker 1: to you know, certainly get in the tournament and make
- 4:09Speaker 1: some makes some away. There was an excellent point because
- 4:11Speaker 1: at some point they do have to turn on and
- 4:13Speaker 1: and go, because you can't just show up the first
- 4:16Speaker 1: preseason Oh the lights are on, let's play a football game.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Now you have to turn up the emphasis just at
- 4:20Speaker 1: some point when do they open that that's rocket a
- 4:23Speaker 1: little bit. Well, and it's a great point because what
- 4:26Speaker 1: you're saying jp because the Ravens are a physical team
- 4:30Speaker 1: and those are gonna be two joint practices, So it's
- 4:33Speaker 1: even before you get somewhat to the first preseason game
- 4:36Speaker 1: that that's gonna be tested a little bit. Um So
- 4:40Speaker 1: I do think that they will take their foot off
- 4:42Speaker 1: the gas, certainly from two years ago. But I still
- 4:45Speaker 1: think you know, when you when you compare the Jaguars
- 4:48Speaker 1: to the other thirty one camps, you're probably gonna find
- 4:51Speaker 1: from reporters that that go to visit multiple ones, Uh,
- 4:55Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get a lot of the same opinion that, Yeah,
- 4:57Speaker 1: Jacksonville is still on the harder end of the scale,
- 5:01Speaker 1: but maybe not to the level that it was at
- 5:03Speaker 1: in what I wonder and where I think we may see.
- 5:06Speaker 1: The difference is we were talking about at practice is
- 5:09Speaker 1: what two thousand and seventeen, what was it, fourteen straight
- 5:12Speaker 1: days in full pads. We're not going to see that.
- 5:14Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if you know, they go
- 5:17Speaker 1: up to buff excuse me, Baltimore, they do those practices,
- 5:20Speaker 1: they play the game. Then maybe the next week they're
- 5:23Speaker 1: a little bit the schedule isn't including full pads every
- 5:27Speaker 1: single day. I mean, you can still practice at a
- 5:30Speaker 1: at a higher level, a higher intensity level, with a
- 5:33Speaker 1: better tempo without the pads on. And these two practices
- 5:37Speaker 1: seem to me that they have the feeling of an
- 5:39Speaker 1: O t A that we had in May and into June.
- 5:42Speaker 1: So I would just think that they're going to turn
- 5:45Speaker 1: it up, like you said, but they may not be
- 5:47Speaker 1: in full pads fourteen fifteen straight days. It'll feel turned
- 5:51Speaker 1: up a bit. I think just when pads go out
- 5:52Speaker 1: in general automatically hitting, you'll see some one on one
- 5:55Speaker 1: D line, oh line stuff all that. It's Mike do
- 5:57Speaker 1: Rocko Espnes carline of Tinton Excel. This media around table continues.
- 6:02Speaker 1: A guy that won't get hurt right now because he's
- 6:05Speaker 1: not here is unique in Gockway holding out. It's the
- 6:08Speaker 1: biggest story I think around the Jaguars right now, outside
- 6:10Speaker 1: of Jalen Ramsey's arrival the other day that's come and gone. Uh,
- 6:15Speaker 1: what's the feel here? Is there a deal to be done?
- 6:18Speaker 1: Is it going to get done? Is it sounds like
- 6:21Speaker 1: you know, they feel like Doug Maron said the other
- 6:23Speaker 1: day that he feels like he's gonna be here by
- 6:25Speaker 1: that deadline. He's got to be here. What's the gut
- 6:28Speaker 1: feeling here, guys? I think it gets done pretty quick.
- 6:31Speaker 1: I think it makes sense for all parties. It makes
- 6:34Speaker 1: sense for the Jaguars. You're getting a player that really
- 6:36Speaker 1: hasn't even hit the prime of his career yet, doesn't
- 6:39Speaker 1: have an injury history. If you sign you Nicknackway to
- 6:42Speaker 1: an extension, you're locking him in on your sight. Uh,
- 6:47Speaker 1: those should be outstanding years and you always have to
- 6:50Speaker 1: kind of guess on is this an athlete that will
- 6:53Speaker 1: be able to handle getting a bunch of money because
- 6:55Speaker 1: y'all really hasn't gotten that yet. Is a third round pick?
- 6:58Speaker 1: I think, if if I had to bet, I think
- 7:00Speaker 1: y Gotta Wagh is absolutely wired correctly to handle getting
- 7:04Speaker 1: a bunch of money. And not letting it hurt his motivation.
- 7:07Speaker 1: So I think Yanique wants to be here. I think,
- 7:10Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars want to have him here. And
- 7:12Speaker 1: I thought I took away from Doug's comments with Dougs saying,
- 7:15Speaker 1: you know, we're excited for him, you know, he wants
- 7:17Speaker 1: to be here, we want to have him. I would
- 7:19Speaker 1: be surprised if we're you know, if we're not talking
- 7:22Speaker 1: about Yunike and go Way is a Jaguar for the
- 7:24Speaker 1: next several years, very very soon, in the next couple
- 7:27Speaker 1: of days. I mean, the guy wants to play ball.
- 7:30Speaker 1: That's pretty clear. I actually thought that they would have
- 7:34Speaker 1: a deal done excuse me, before camp started and they
- 7:36Speaker 1: were on track for that, and then negotiations broke down late.
- 7:40Speaker 1: So I'm with Hayes. I don't think it's going to
- 7:42Speaker 1: be a long protracted holdout. Obviously, you know that thirty
- 7:45Speaker 1: days before the first game report date for him, you know,
- 7:48Speaker 1: could loom large there. You you don't want to lose
- 7:52Speaker 1: the ability to become the unrestricted free agent afterwards. So
- 7:55Speaker 1: I agree with Hayes. I think something will get done. Um,
- 7:58Speaker 1: I'm interested to see. You know, there was the report
- 8:00Speaker 1: it out there of the fifty million dollar uh, you know,
- 8:03Speaker 1: contracts over guaranteed over the first two years. Guted that
- 8:08Speaker 1: that that My question is how much of that was
- 8:10Speaker 1: fully guaranteed? How much of that was incentive wise? Because
- 8:13Speaker 1: if it to me, I would be interested if I
- 8:16Speaker 1: were Unique and got way and that three year extension
- 8:19Speaker 1: which guarantees me fifty million, if it's a full guarantee
- 8:22Speaker 1: of fifty million, because like you said, Heyese, I'm on
- 8:25Speaker 1: the market again and I got a chance if, especially
- 8:28Speaker 1: if he continues to progress the way that we think
- 8:31Speaker 1: he will. Now you're looking at a twelve thirteen sack.
- 8:33Speaker 1: I maybe in years four and five, six. Now of
- 8:37Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got a really big payday coming. So
- 8:39Speaker 1: I do think that they will get it done. And
- 8:41Speaker 1: if they don't, then I would be really angry at
- 8:44Speaker 1: my agent if I were Unique and Devil's advocate here
- 8:47Speaker 1: team perspective, if they don't do anything, but it it doesn't
- 8:50Speaker 1: I think something will get done, is my gut. But
- 8:53Speaker 1: if they don't, what if Josh Allen goes out here
- 8:56Speaker 1: the first month and a half of the season and
- 8:58Speaker 1: puts up unbelievable and I'm verse, do they even need Unique?
- 9:02Speaker 1: Around after that, Like, I mean, that's the question. Are
- 9:05Speaker 1: they going above and beyond? Right now? You're offering a
- 9:08Speaker 1: contract to Unique, And because these other defensive and free
- 9:11Speaker 1: agent guys got through their whole first deal before they
- 9:13Speaker 1: got paid, why is Unique any different Do they need
- 9:18Speaker 1: from from in that scenarrow? Do they need Unique? Way? No,
- 9:21Speaker 1: But you can never have too many pass rushers in
- 9:24Speaker 1: this league, and this league gets quarterback pass rusher corner.
- 9:27Speaker 1: They feel like they've got two of the three obviously
- 9:29Speaker 1: locked in or we'll have with with Jalen whether whatever
- 9:33Speaker 1: they do with the fifth year option, that kind of stuff.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Uh No, they don't need them. But man, if you
- 9:37Speaker 1: have a guy that could be a double digit sack
- 9:39Speaker 1: guy in this league, and you could potentially pair him
- 9:42Speaker 1: with another guy who could be a double digit sack
- 9:44Speaker 1: guy in this league in a division that includes Andrew
- 9:47Speaker 1: Luck and Deshaun Watson, I would be hard pressed to
- 9:53Speaker 1: turn that down. If I were a GM, I think
- 9:56Speaker 1: you gotta have them. I mean, I think it's even
- 9:58Speaker 1: if Josh Allen looks good, You're still talking about a rookie.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Rookies rarely come in and really become elite all pro
- 10:06Speaker 1: pass rushers right out of the gate. I like Josh Allen.
- 10:10Speaker 1: I think it was a great pick. I think it
- 10:11Speaker 1: was an absolute steel. I think he's gonna have a
- 10:13Speaker 1: great career in Jacksonville. But Yanniken Gottway is a must have,
- 10:19Speaker 1: uh in terms of beating the Chiefs in Week one.
- 10:22Speaker 1: He's a must have in terms of winning this division. Uh,
- 10:25Speaker 1: He's a must have in terms of of making a
- 10:27Speaker 1: deep run in the playoffs. I mean what he is
- 10:30Speaker 1: able to do is something very few players can do.
- 10:33Speaker 1: He can beat his man. He can not only get
- 10:35Speaker 1: to the quarterback, he can get the ball off the quarterback.
- 10:37Speaker 1: He makes the kind of plays that win you games
- 10:40Speaker 1: in this league. I think it would it would be
- 10:44Speaker 1: unbelievable if Yanken Gottway isn't a a very high priority
- 10:49Speaker 1: for this front office to keep irresponsible. Almost if if
- 10:52Speaker 1: he wasn't irresponsible, Yeah, well they're trying. Oh no, I'm not. Yeah,
- 10:57Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not. It does absolu. I mean
- 11:00Speaker 1: this holdouts on day three, I'm not worried. You know,
- 11:03Speaker 1: when we get to three, then it'll be a little bit.
- 11:07Speaker 1: September one comes then to where he ranks out he's
- 11:11Speaker 1: Carlin Tintin XL Mike to Rocko a ESPN on this
- 11:13Speaker 1: media round table on Jaguars dot com. Nick Foles spoke yesterday,
- 11:17Speaker 1: and he's not. I don't think he's doing a lot
- 11:18Speaker 1: of one on ones in camp. That kind of letting
- 11:21Speaker 1: him do the football thing and get in the locker room.
- 11:23Speaker 1: And so I think probably once a week or so
- 11:26Speaker 1: he'll do the media thing, which he did after the
- 11:29Speaker 1: first practice. There's a different feel about him. I mean,
- 11:33Speaker 1: you can just I don't know how to really describe that.
- 11:36Speaker 1: That it is kind of my job, I guess to
- 11:38Speaker 1: describe that, but um, it's tough to say. But there's
- 11:42Speaker 1: something about his not an aura, but the way he
- 11:44Speaker 1: kind of walks around, the way he runs the football team,
- 11:47Speaker 1: the way he's in and out of the huddle, the
- 11:48Speaker 1: way he approaches the media. He always says the right thing,
- 11:51Speaker 1: at least so far. The balls on time, it's there.
- 11:55Speaker 1: There's never really a lot of confusion, it seems like
- 11:57Speaker 1: on the field. Those are my first impressions. When you
- 12:01Speaker 1: when he spoke the other day, what stood out has
- 12:03Speaker 1: about Fools? I was really impressed, Uh. I think his
- 12:07Speaker 1: approach to quarterbacking is it a much higher level than
- 12:11Speaker 1: what Blake's was. You know, Blake had to rely or
- 12:14Speaker 1: had to worry about so many fundamental things with his
- 12:17Speaker 1: own game, with his I think knowledge of the offense. Uh, Nick,
- 12:22Speaker 1: I think is on a much higher level. Uh. From
- 12:26Speaker 1: a from a mental standpoint, I think it was evident
- 12:28Speaker 1: just in and hearing him talk through the things that
- 12:31Speaker 1: he's really working on. It's it's it's footwork, it's you know,
- 12:36Speaker 1: am I tipping anything off to the defense? Uh? It wasn't. So.
- 12:40Speaker 1: I mean this is a guy who didn't even throw
- 12:43Speaker 1: uh during the break. I mean, you know, we have
- 12:45Speaker 1: it's well documented that Blake, you know, in the break,
- 12:47Speaker 1: would really need to go and work with Tom House
- 12:50Speaker 1: and Adam Dido on his fundamentals, and that was a
- 12:52Speaker 1: big thing. Nick Foles is like, yeah, I threw with
- 12:55Speaker 1: my wife and in my brother in law. We had
- 12:57Speaker 1: a fun time. And no, yeah, I threw with the
- 12:58Speaker 1: quarterbacks yesterday when we got here. Uh. It's just it's
- 13:02Speaker 1: just different and the things that he's thinking about and
- 13:06Speaker 1: the things that he's focusing on, or at a much
- 13:09Speaker 1: I think higher level in terms of playing the position
- 13:12Speaker 1: than where Blake was really ever to get in his development.
- 13:15Speaker 1: So I thought it was striking on day one, and
- 13:18Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see how much further it goes in
- 13:22Speaker 1: terms of his the deep conversations he's having with the receivers,
- 13:26Speaker 1: but also on the defensive side as well. I just
- 13:29Speaker 1: don't know that Blake ever got into that part of
- 13:32Speaker 1: his game because there's a foundation that has to be built,
- 13:35Speaker 1: and I don't know that he was ever really able
- 13:37Speaker 1: to build it like Nick has been able to build it.
- 13:39Speaker 1: The offense was changing a lot under Blake, a lot
- 13:41Speaker 1: of different coordinators. That was it was tough. And that's
- 13:44Speaker 1: a good, really good point. What are you thinking of
- 13:45Speaker 1: folds first day? When coaches talk about taking ownership of
- 13:50Speaker 1: the offense of a team or whatever, I think this
- 13:54Speaker 1: is what they mean with with Nick Foles. He views
- 13:57Speaker 1: it as his responsibility, his utie, his calling in life
- 14:02Speaker 1: on the football field, to know everything about everybody on
- 14:05Speaker 1: this team, to know everything about the offense, to know
- 14:09Speaker 1: everything um about teammates, position groups, to make sure that,
- 14:15Speaker 1: like hey said, he's not making tipping things off, He's
- 14:18Speaker 1: not you know, making the wrong reads, he's not making
- 14:20Speaker 1: the wrong decisions. It's a serious, serious undertaking for him
- 14:25Speaker 1: two basically own this franchise. I think is that that's
- 14:30Speaker 1: kind of the way I read it. It's not that
- 14:32Speaker 1: he's not having fun and that he doesn't enjoy it,
- 14:34Speaker 1: But to me, it seems like a more stoic, business
- 14:37Speaker 1: like adult responsible approach than maybe um the way Blake
- 14:43Speaker 1: went about it a little bit. And and and that's
- 14:44Speaker 1: partly because Hayes is right, he had to worry about
- 14:47Speaker 1: it every summer. I gotta go out there. I had
- 14:48Speaker 1: to get my arm right, I gotta get my release right,
- 14:50Speaker 1: I gotta get my feet right. I gotta do all
- 14:51Speaker 1: this stuff. And that's not something that Fools has to
- 14:54Speaker 1: worry about. He's already knows a little bit of the offense.
- 14:56Speaker 1: He's comfortable with John d Filippo. So that makes it
- 14:59Speaker 1: Lili's you're it. I just get the all encompassing, the
- 15:02Speaker 1: feeling that he's all encompassing. Everything is is important to him,
- 15:06Speaker 1: and he views it as his responsibility to make sure
- 15:08Speaker 1: every single thing goes right. Blake was also twenty one
- 15:12Speaker 1: years old. That is a huge, huge factor. I mean folds, yeah,
- 15:17Speaker 1: I mean it is a huge factor because but but
- 15:20Speaker 1: the difference is striking even in Blake's year last year.
- 15:23Speaker 1: I mean, like you're right, he got here at twenty
- 15:25Speaker 1: one and had to go through a rebuild, but even
- 15:28Speaker 1: in his fifth year, it was still very much I
- 15:32Speaker 1: think elementary level compared to where Nick Foles is. Alright,
- 15:37Speaker 1: first two days, I'm gonna pick each of you guys
- 15:40Speaker 1: to pick a standout player the first two days. I'm
- 15:43Speaker 1: gonna start, though, because I'm ramble away. Give me Chris Conley,
- 15:50Speaker 1: wide receiver. First couple of days. There's been some nice
- 15:53Speaker 1: connections down the field with Folds. We saw that in
- 15:55Speaker 1: the offseason a little bit, and we'll see when the
- 15:58Speaker 1: pads go on, when there's a little more contact outside
- 16:00Speaker 1: and stuff what happens. But big target, they've been together.
- 16:04Speaker 1: I like what I see from Conley so far. And
- 16:06Speaker 1: a guy who's been around the league for a minute, rock,
- 16:09Speaker 1: are you ready? Yeah? Um. And it must be said
- 16:12Speaker 1: too that in in these two practices it's basically O
- 16:15Speaker 1: T A. So the guys that are going to stand
- 16:16Speaker 1: out or the wide receivers, running backs, defensive acts, quarterbacks exactly.
- 16:20Speaker 1: And I'm I'll stay there because I'm on the D
- 16:23Speaker 1: D Westbrook train. I do think that this is gonna
- 16:25Speaker 1: be a big year for d. D. Westbrook. Uh, And
- 16:28Speaker 1: he's shown me nothing to change my mind about that.
- 16:32Speaker 1: The first two days. He's made every single catch. It's
- 16:35Speaker 1: clearly um a priority to get him the ball. Uh.
- 16:39Speaker 1: And I think his uh Nick Foles's comfort level and
- 16:42Speaker 1: confidence level in throwing to D D. Westbrook will continue
- 16:45Speaker 1: to rise. He obviously had that prior relationship with Connley,
- 16:48Speaker 1: so that's sort of why that might be a little
- 16:50Speaker 1: bit ahead of the other guys. But I like what
- 16:51Speaker 1: I've seen from d D the first two days. I
- 16:53Speaker 1: think you guys are right on point. Conley and indeed
- 16:56Speaker 1: look good. I've been impressed with Shark and Keelan uh
- 16:59Speaker 1: So are as well, so I think that's all. They're
- 17:01Speaker 1: off to a good start those four. I'll give you
- 17:03Speaker 1: a defensive guy. I think Trey Herndon today really looked
- 17:07Speaker 1: the part. And again I mean that that's somebody's It's
- 17:09Speaker 1: hard to get excited about him because we all know
- 17:12Speaker 1: obviously it's Jalen and it's boy a uh. But I
- 17:16Speaker 1: think if if you know, if something were to happen,
- 17:19Speaker 1: and I think Herndon is showing that if you had
- 17:22Speaker 1: to play him, you can count on him. I was
- 17:25Speaker 1: impressed with what he was able to do last year
- 17:27Speaker 1: when he made the team as an undrafted rookie, and uh,
- 17:30Speaker 1: I thought today, I mean, he broke on some balls today,
- 17:32Speaker 1: I thought, we're outstanding, finished some plays, breakups. Yeah, um so,
- 17:37Speaker 1: I you know, I think if you're looking at depth,
- 17:40Speaker 1: hopefully they won't need Trey Herndon to start. But I
- 17:44Speaker 1: I think he looks good and who knows, maybe that's
- 17:46Speaker 1: a player that can have that Jared Wilson esque rise
- 17:50Speaker 1: up through the ranks of undrafted guy reserve but keeps
- 17:55Speaker 1: getting better and then you know, down the line finds
- 17:57Speaker 1: himself as you know, a presumed starter going into week one.
- 18:00Speaker 1: I love it. First two days in we started with
- 18:03Speaker 1: the A team on this podcast to Mike Espn his
- 18:07Speaker 1: car line of Tinton nextl good to see you guys,
- 18:09Speaker 1: and then we'll see you over the weekend. Here. Great
- 18:11Speaker 1: seen you, JP. Awesome job. You'll see me every single day,
- 18:15Speaker 1: which is unfortunate for you for the next hundred and
- 18:18Speaker 1: fifty five days. You will say, hopefully it'll be like
- 18:21Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty five, but it'll be at least
- 18:23Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty five. Thanks a lot Fellas appreciate
- 18:26Speaker 1: you