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TWR Wednesday | Nuclear Knowledge w/ Craig D. Mansfield · The Whitfield Report

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  Hey there, folks. Welcome to the show and the
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  And I want to thank you all for joining me this evening.
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  Before we begin, because we do have our first guest tonight.
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  You know since relaunching the the show.
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  Or rather being on hiatus. But before we begin doing that,
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  I do want to address real quick. You know, yes, it has been
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  confirmed. My YouTube channel is officially
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  dead in the water. You know, it's it's it's been
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  dead for about a week now, but people you know, suggested that
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  I appeal it. And.
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  You know, I did just that, but the.
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  You know, the good folks at YouTube got back to me.
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  Yesterday and basically said that.
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  You know the the channel is. Permanently banned.
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  banned or what Community guideline I supposedly violated.
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  I assume at this point that a bot.
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  Was the one that did the manual review, which is very telling.
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  I don't know if I don't know if someone struck the channel or
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  what. I've been suspicion.
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  Of maybe a few people might have tried striking the channel, but,
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  you know, it could have just been my channel was on the
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  chopping block with you with the new YouTube management.
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  But anyway, we are here and we're live on both.
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  and. I know that.
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  We will have people popping and chat and as always you can catch
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  the replay of this. On all of your favorite
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  podcasting platforms. With that being said, I would
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  like to go ahead and introduce our first guest of this era of
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  the field report, Mr. Craig D Mansfield.
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  Who? I have been mispronouncing his
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  last name all week, so I apologize for that Sir, but
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  welcome to the show stories and. From my understanding, I I thank
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  you for having me. Thank you for coming on and you
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  and I have known each other through some of the YouTube like
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  E drama circles I I guess but. From my understanding, you're a
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  chemical engineer, you know that's what you do IRL.
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  Yeah. And so one of the reasons why I
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  wanted to have you on, the main reason why I wanted you on is a
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  couple of. Different things, you know, a,
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  the the whole situation in Ohio and, you know, East Palestine
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  with all these train derailments happening across the country,
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  that's been a big issue, you know, over the past couple
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  weeks. And then there are possible
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  fears that, you know, this thing in Ukraine might go nuclear.
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  And then I just wanted to ask you about nuclear power in
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  itself since there are a bunch of.
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  You know, kind of, I guess, misconceptions surrounding that,
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  but sure for any of that. Just what is your general
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  background I guess. Well, uh, you've correctly
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  ascertained there. Shit.
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  Posting on Twitter is not my profession.
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  Um, so I'm a chemical engineer. My degrees in chemical
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  engineering and chemistry. Um.
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  Now, wrapping up a PhD right now involving Paul or processing.
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  So I'm still chemical engineering, but it's.
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  A little more math heavy now. It's like that's believable.
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  And so I've been I've, well, I. Like graduated with my degrees
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  and from undergrad in 2006. Now, 2011.
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  Sorry, it has been a long day. It's fine.
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  So the the actually it's, you know.
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  It's unfortunate that it happened, but, as you know,
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  fortunate enough that I'm able to to be of some use in this
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  regard that the the train accident needs Palestine
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  involved. Uh, things that are right up my
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  alley. So a lot of monomers that were
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  being sent for polymer processing or or perhaps other
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  specialty chemical use. I mean, you know, otherwise my
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  background's pretty boring at that point.
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  But yeah, it's chemical engineering and chemistry.
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  You know, specializations were an analytical model formulation
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  in undergrad, so taking stuff that would normally be really
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  difficult to solve. Just by, you know, rote algebra
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  or calculus and then solving that more directly rather than
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  using a numerical method. And then also, um, process
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  design, so designing chemical plants.
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  I I see. So have you done work in like
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  the private sector or any or anything government related or?
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  For asking? No, no, no, no.
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  I just have to put you in space. So I I I.
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  I've got through my undergrad 5 1/2 years for my first 2
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  degrees. They are separate individual
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  ones. Got done there.
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  Did a summer working for Dow, doing programming for them for a
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  preprocessing program for their industrial customers to make
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  sure they're the data they put in is squared away as the data
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  that it's supposed to be. For their codings division.
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  And then I went in for grad school.
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  Um, actually it's. It's taking quite a while.
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  I'm almost done. It's it's basically my third
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  thesis in a row here, so. Fun that it was.
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  It's time to be done with that. Uh, pool.
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  But as a matter of course. For that, I've worked with
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  several national labs, so Savannah, Savannah River
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  national Lab, Oak Ridge National lab.
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  I've worked with NASA doing a. Modeling of 3D layout, 3D
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  printing process for printing drones on Mars.
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  So you can print out a drone on Mars, have a fly around and then
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  land on the place that started from and then get ground up and
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  reused, that kind of thing. Nice.
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  So it's it's been a a wide variety of things and also a
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  couple other private companies for for other parts of our
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  research. Are you, uh, are you by chance?
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  You know, working on it on any of this space exploration stuff
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  because I live in Florida and. I just went to the you're not
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  that far from here about a month ago.
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  And I'm, I'm up in Gainesville right now.
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  Ohh no kidding. Yeah, I'm right there.
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  I was not. So I the grad school.
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  I'm I'm still wrapping up with this Virginia Tech.
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  But I've since moved away since I'm just doing my thesis writing
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  right now. Just I'm done with the
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  experimental part. Well, well, yeah.
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  I mean that, that's, that's cool.
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  So. No, I'm.
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  I'm not working in anything involving space right now.
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  When I get done, that's, you know, within purview maybe.
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  I mean, SpaceX stuff out there in Texas might be interesting,
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  but I think they finally moved a couple of jobs that would be
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  well overlapped with me over to Texas.
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  The last time I checked, uh, you know, a few months ago, all of
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  their injection molding jobs were still out in California and
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  I really don't feel like moving out there.
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  Yeah, I I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to move to
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  California either after being in Florida.
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  So I much prefer to be here than out there, Texas being a close
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  second. Yeah, I I don't blame you one
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  bit, so. Um.
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  And I mean so I guess my my first question, I don't really
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  really know how to really. Ask this, but one of the reasons
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  why. It was suggested to bring you on
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  because right now everyone is freaking out about this these
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  train derailments that have been happening across the country.
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  The the far I guess right. You know the conspiracy minded
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  people on the right. I think this is the deep state
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  just derailing trains and. You know, smuggling, nuclear war
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  and smuggling like nuclear weapons and I could see that
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  eradicate the population and. No, I mean the, the simple
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  answer to that, that that posited premise for these
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  accidents, you know, the setting of a stage so to speak, is that
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  it is. The life that you'd have to
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  live, or the world you'd have to live in would become complicated
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  in such a different way, and it's already complicated enough.
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  You know, Occam's razor here is pretty straightforward on this
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  one. Yeah, now that said, it's not
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  that there isn't evidence that might.
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  Be plausibly supportive of that, for instance after.
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  Some derail and derailments happen all the time, by the way,
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  and they can be as little as a a wheel slipping off track to cars
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  falling off the track. So it's kind of like.
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  Saying you know, the reason why there's so many car accidents is
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  because the governments have to get you.
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  Now, thankfully, train accidents, you know derailments
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  anyway, happen far less frequently than car accidents.
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  Uh. But there's also fewer trains in
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  their cars, so you have to keep it within reason.
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  Sure, sure. But you know, after you have
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  these derailments that were popularized in the news, you did
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  find out that again afterwards. So there's possibility for
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  copycat motive being involved. People had police had been
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  notified of pipe bombs that had been laid on some train tracks
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  that were thankfully diffused and removed.
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  So that is, that's not good, but that's also indicative of some
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  other issues. But the thing I was going to
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  come back to here is that when it comes to the actual
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  derailments that everybody deals with kind of on a day-to-day
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  basis, our infrastructure in this country has had a failing
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  grade or AD or AD minus grade for the past like 40 years.
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  It's not good and what we're seeing is partly the and I would
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  say it's more formal life that right now seeing that come to
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  fruition. The fact of the matter is that
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  Norfolk Southern. Um basically bribed their way
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  into not having to deal with extra regulations that everyone
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  else was dealing with as a real company and at the and then they
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  had a wheel fail. Basically looks like the root
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  causes of bearing failure, which has nothing to do with the
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  breaking schedule which people were trying to.
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  Lay blame at Trump's feet for so it's really a department of
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  transit issue more than it is in any individual administration
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  issue as well. But the.
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  The kind of crap icing on that crap salad, if you will, is is
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  the current admins. Um.
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  They're. They're.
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  Lack of empathy, if you will. You know FEMA saying that FEMA
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  can't pay for cleanup in the area or his assistance in the
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  area. When it's specifically funded to
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  be able to handle issues like this, that's indicative of the
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  way that the current admin is handling this accident.
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  It's not very good. What is their reasoning for not
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  being able to fund? I have no idea.
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  I, I, I don't. I don't understand the
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  machinations of what goes on in that bureaucracy.
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  Yeah, well, well, not neither do.
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  I mean a layperson would say we pay taxes and therefore, because
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  we pay taxes on funding which is promised prior to being funded.
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  And so we operate on a debt. There is no reason why something
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  that it looks like it's on the order of 1,000,000 should be a
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  big problem in a budget of trillions.
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  Yeah. Well, I mean look we're we're we
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  you know we're reprioritizing here the, the, the the money
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  that we could be spending on on infrastructure is not is now
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  going to you know transgender bathrooms in these government
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  building was it the $10 million we spent on training on gender
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  sensitivity training in Pakistan.
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  Um, you know, that's that was more important.
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  You know this of course years back.
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  So not like it's being a substitution now like Ukraine
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  is. But like that, that's we spend
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  $10 million trying to train a whole bunch of people who think
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  of women as farm animals. To use the right pronouns and
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  we're not going to go and and give these people bottles of
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  water. I I don't understand how that,
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  really. Computes.
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  In the in the the Budgetary Office, but you know.
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  Whatever. I guess we pay taxes to fund the
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  people that are supposed to justify that to us too, and
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  they're not doing their jobs either.
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  Yeah. Well, it it's the the whole
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  thing is a is a giant bureaucracy.
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  Joining us is producer Max. Sand like in the the commander
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  Cobra by. Ohh yeah we we were joking
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  around about like you know the. Based Cobra Commander who would
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  have like plans to to mess with like the left and the
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  progressives in a cartoonish fashion kind of the way they
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  think we are would be kind of funny.
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  Ohh man, you don't have any idea how funny and appropriate that.
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  That choice is going to be currently when we start talking
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  about Ukraine and Putin. Ohh yes I I can see.
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  I just have, you know, China's answer to us having rods from
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  God in the sky is their hypersonic missiles.
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  So you remember what was it the second GI Joe movie that came
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  out recently? Was predicated on that same the
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  same kind of devices being used. Yeah.
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  I mean real. I mean really there, there are
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  just a bunch of avenues that we could, you know, go go down.
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  But I mean also in regards to the train thing like is nuclear
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  waste just spilling out? Because I mean we already
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  addressed like the Super ripe right wing conspiracy theory,
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  but now there's the left wing conspiracy by the environmental
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  wackos that are saying ohh, nuclear waste is killing the
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  animals in Ohio and I can I can answer this one for you.
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  Lyrically, no. There is.
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  There was no nuclear material involved in that train wreck.
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  None. Yeah, they keep calling it the
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  America's New Chernobyl and it's like, hey, that's not.
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  So just put it in perspective, Chernobyl.
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  Happened decades ago. It has not now.
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  I said that happened. I should have said it was.
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  It started happening. It is still an ongoing disaster
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  and the fallout from that disaster will not be resolved
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  for another 10,000 years. Yeah, East Palestine.
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  An ecologist will have a hard time telling anything happened
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  there in about 30 years after second growth Forest has more or
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  less fully recovered. First, Growth Forest will take
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  about a decade. So about halfway through that
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  decade, a person who has no idea that anything happened there
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  should basically not notice anything out of the ordinary
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  relative to the surrounding area.
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  You know, you'd have to know what you're looking for.
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  Um, same thing. I would say it's more like
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  having a wildfire happened. I've really bad wildfire.
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  I feel like this is the most misinformation about one
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  incident I've ever seen. Yeah, well, it's it's is that a
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  fair assessment? It's, I mean it's certainly.
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  In terms of like the proximity to the event, sure.
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  I I'm there's other events that are far worse in their
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  mischaracterizations. For instance, you know, jet fuel
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  can't melt steel, steel beams kind of right.
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  I guess I do mean in a sort of like instant feedback like 24
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  hour news cycle. Look at the political stage
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  that's been set for you, you have.
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  A lot of people that are looking for things to stick as if you
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  have to fucking swing a cat very far, things to stick on the
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  Biden admin, and then you have people who are looking, who are
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  looking for some way to get their money and their cloud.
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  And you have pretty high competition in that grifting
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  market, if you will. It's it's, it's a ripe prime
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  area and then you also you have the fact that there are
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  chemicals involved in infrastructure disaster.
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  You have you know, Pete Buddha judge who's in charge of this,
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  who hasn't been at work for since the beginning.
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  So like it's it is is prime territory.
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  People that jump in and start stealing bullshit.
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  Yeah. And they have because again, it
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  it, it involves all of the favorite things to to pick on
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  from the right side of things and then same thing from the
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  left now that there's a rebound space.
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  You know, this idea that there was any nuclear material that
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  was involved whatsoever is hilarious because it.
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  You know, I I just say prove it. Show me a sample showing the
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  radiation reading. A lot of people just have a
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  revulsion to the word chemicals itself, right?
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  And so here's the thing, always assume the worst.
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  There's a prize that the Royal Chemical Society in England
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  offers still on on offer it's £1,000,000 for someone to come
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  up to them and present them something that is not made of
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  chemicals. That includes by the way, so far
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  in terms of the attempts that have made the vacuum of space
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  so. Yeah, everything's got chemicals
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  involved. Sorry.
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  That's the way life is. You know when you say chemicals
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  and you you think of it as an icky word.
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  Kind of like saying error is horrible for you.
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  Hmm, but that. But that is what I'd like to
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  live in. Oxygen free life, you know.
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  A lot of the people's concerns just just thrives around that
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  fear of the unknown. Oh, those evil chemicals.
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  And that's what it is, though there's not much ignorance.
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  There's not much attempts by the media to quell that because it's
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  too useful to their political agenda.
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  Well, look at where humans came from 12,000 years ago.
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  When we didn't know what something was, we drew what we
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  imagined it was on the on the wall of a cave, and then we got
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  scared of it. Yeah, we, our Boogie men have
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  gone back eons. Uh, chemicals are no different.
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  The fun thing about chemicals is everybody.
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  Loves to have them around until they get scared of them and then
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  they freak out again. To be fair, nuclear is in that
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  category as well, right? Sure, absolutely.
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  And that is the safest means of energy production on the planet.
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  And it fits every single category of an environmentalist
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  checklist, except for the fact that has nuclear in the.
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  Yeah, so I so I was gonna ask about that because.
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  You know, why isn't nuclear more of a thing than this?
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  And so it is it just because of The Simpsons shared help with
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  the big no that's a response as a direct response to.
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  So we had a disaster. So we had, there was Chernobyl
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  and then we had three Mile Islands and that basically shut
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  down the NRC's approval process for the foreseeable future until
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  just recently. Uh, you know, circa like 2014
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  when the Savannah River Site was finally approved.
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  Um. So I I'm sure that you're wrong.
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  Actually it's it's anyway it's post post 2010 when they finally
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  started approving anything again.
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  Of the University of Florida, for example, it's they're after
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  911, so they used to have a plutonium core inside the
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  reactor and their reactor was used for the nuclear
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  engineering. Students on campus, then nuclear
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  research as well as providing the the metastable technetium
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  99, so technician 99 M which is used for medical studies at the
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  hospital on campus. So that's got a half life of
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  like 8 hours, so it's only good for so long before you can't use
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  it anymore. It's basically made and used on
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  the same day for medical purposes.
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  And after 911, so they had 1/2 kilogram plutonium that got
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  taken away by the the Department of Homeland Security and was
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  replaced with some uranium which is incapable of doing the same
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  job. So then they started having to
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  ship down this medical isotope from somewhere up in the New
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  England area. So they now have to fly that
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  shit in daily. Anyway, the point being here we
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  have these string of accidents in the 70s, eighties, 90s.
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  And we shut down nuclear approvals.
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  We Gen. Three was the last that we had.
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  Now there's, there's Gen. 3 plus which is I think what's been
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  finally approved and there's Gen. 4 reactor designs out
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  there. Chernobyl was a was was a was
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  based on a graphite mediator. So you have these these rods
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  that are putting out a whole bunch of neutrons from the
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  fissioning atoms, so the atoms breaking apart.
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  Um, and you put some stuff in the way between the rods to slow
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  down the neutrons and you either slow them down to achieve other
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  reactions, other nuclear reactions.
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  So sometimes the slower fast neutrons might be needed.
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  Or you use the mediator to quench and stop the reactions
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  entirely, so it's a balance. And so they were using graphite,
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  which is a pretty good mediator all things considered.
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  But the major problem is it's not fluid and it is also
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  flammable. Both of which came out to the
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  real pain in the ass when trouble went up in flames.
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  So just just a little, yeah. Yeah, so, so so every every
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  other reactor that's spatially in use today is because
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  Chernobyl hasn't shut down, by the way.
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  You have to keep running that place, otherwise you have major
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  problems. Uh, that's one of the reasons
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  why it's it's not an over and done with thing.
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  You can't just bury it. Things like the elephants foot
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  still would kill you if you got near it.
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  So. So I I I just want to make sure
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  I heard you correctly, Chernobyl is still running.
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  Yeah. So it had only one reactor went
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  down, right? Right, only one had a meltdown.
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  So it has several running reactors.
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  Was like was it a units 2-3 and four, or units two and four
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  released? But it has, it has a couple on
• 25:24
  like they have personnel come on site, they run the reactors.
• 25:28
  You know they have to. They do good.
• 25:30
  Well, you gotta hope for their grandchildren's cancer risk.
• 25:34
  They do reasonable rate control. Um.
• 25:41
  Yeah, they're still operating it.
• 25:42
  It's a way of life for these people, actually, yeah.
• 25:48
  Maybe if you if you want it. So if they wanted to
• 25:50
  decommission the site they could.
• 25:53
  Um, but it is a power source. It's it's limping along, so to
• 25:58
  speak, here. And so the Zaporizhia reactor
• 26:01
  down in Ukraine. Um, just to give you an idea of
• 26:04
  how resilient these structures are, how much damage you have to
• 26:06
  do to them. They the biggest fear that you
• 26:10
  know, this wasn't just my opinion.
• 26:12
  This was shared. This is a couple of people also
• 26:14
  shared this opinion. Uh, with reasonable.
• 26:20
  You know, reasonable competence. Uh.
• 26:24
  The bigger fear of Zaporizhia wasn't that Russia was going to
• 26:27
  shell these buildings and then cause a meltdown, but that
• 26:30
  somebody was going to scuttle these facilities as they were
• 26:35
  leaving instead of just hitting scram, the big red button for
• 26:38
  shutdown, and then leaving. So if somebody decided to, for
• 26:43
  instance, leave a bomb next to a core, hit scram and then hit the
• 26:48
  timer button and then skedaddle and it blew up and contaminated
• 26:52
  the river right there. They could have blamed that on
• 26:55
  Russia. Ohh wow.
• 26:57
  Easily they could have and that would have.
• 26:59
  The problem is that would have contaminated the entirety of the
• 27:02
  sea right there, gone right down the river.
• 27:04
  And then it that sea services it's Crimea and then Russia and
• 27:08
  then Ukraine, all in that same area.
• 27:14
  So. It's remarkably resilient
• 27:16
  technology. You they there are, you know,
• 27:18
  massive holes in the structure and nothing was damaged inside.
• 27:23
  Uh, you know, a little bit of hardware had to be retrofitted a
• 27:25
  little bit, and then the technicians were able to get
• 27:27
  everything back up online and working just fine.
• 27:30
  So in America, the push against nuclear from the left has been
• 27:36
  since before Chernobyl. Or three mile, yes, but that
• 27:40
  gave them a big that gave a massive megaphone.
• 27:43
  And it wasn't just trouble, was kind of a launching pad.
• 27:48
  But they stuck the landing on three Mile Island.
• 27:51
  Yeah, that's true. That was domestic.
• 27:54
  That was on our soil. And they were finally able to
• 27:56
  say, see, it can happen here too.
• 27:57
  And then everybody needs to shut down and say, OK, well, we're
• 28:01
  not gonna shut them down, but we're gonna stop making new
• 28:03
  ones. How about that?
• 28:05
  That was the compromise. Yeah, yeah, that was a dumb
• 28:09
  compromise. It was really stupid and I'm
• 28:11
  glad we're finally coming back out of that.
• 28:13
  But it's funny how many people in and they get them young for a
• 28:17
  reason. A lot of activists that start
• 28:20
  off being strongly and staunchly anti nuclear.
• 28:25
  Finally, eventually have it within them to.
• 28:30
  Just take a little look at what they're talking about.
• 28:33
  Instead of repeating someone else's talking point when they
• 28:35
  get old enough to finally have a thought on their own.
• 28:38
  And. They find out that they've been
• 28:41
  against the wrong thing. So.
• 28:48
  Wait that it's it's. It's a very bad thing that we've
• 28:52
  allowed ourselves to be. So distracted in that way.
• 28:55
  For example the and I, I still can't believe we we allowed this
• 28:59
  to happen at all when Hillary Clinton and Obama approved and
• 29:05
  sold off 1/5 of our uranium mining capacity.
• 29:10
  So 1/5 of what comes out of the uranium one minds and gets
• 29:14
  refined by Uranium 1. Is owned by Russia.
• 29:19
  Because they signed off on that deal.
• 29:23
  Um, that uranium should be going into our reactors, you know.
• 29:28
  Moreover, you know, you can thank the Cold War for uranium
• 29:31
  being what was what was so heavily researched.
• 29:34
  Thorium is better. It's it's.
• 29:38
  Arguably better. It is the tech that people keep
• 29:42
  pushing for it the the lifter reactors is.
• 29:47
  Not proven to the point where I would say that's the way you
• 29:50
  should go, but as far as the old tech that it can just slot right
• 29:53
  into. And replace uranium or compete
• 29:56
  with uranium, you know, there's there you have cooperative
• 29:58
  competition in that regard. You can use both.
• 30:01
  That's where we should be at. We should be.
• 30:03
  We should not only be running more reactors, we should be
• 30:06
  using these cheaper, more available components to put in
• 30:09
  there. Uranium is fantastic, but it's
• 30:12
  also pretty rare and hard to use.
• 30:16
  Yeah but it but to I mean to me it seems like you're uranium is
• 30:20
  always the one that gets like all the you know the sex appeal
• 30:25
  and the and the press because we put it in bombs man.
• 30:29
  Yeah. So, you know, that's why that's
• 30:33
  why I always gets, you know, all the all the press, you know,
• 30:38
  mostly negative, I guess. Well, so we we.
• 30:41
  We heavily researched uranium. Uh.
• 30:45
  Largely because of the Cold War efforts and also the the the
• 30:50
  efforts, you know, with the Manhattan Project.
• 30:53
  Uranium is very good at being a more readily available.
• 30:58
  Fissile and destructive material.
• 31:04
  So yeah, thorium is more readily available, but it's harder to
• 31:07
  use in a bomb is the bigger problem with it.
• 31:11
  So the same technology that goes into refining uranium to use in
• 31:15
  a weapon is the technology you can use to refine it for energy
• 31:19
  usage. And the fact is, you're able to
• 31:21
  research all of that in one go. So that was just, it just
• 31:25
  happens to be the one that came out the winner and that little
• 31:27
  race there to fit both niches at once.
• 31:31
  Yeah. And well, and I mean I've
• 31:33
  actually read regarding nuclear power, if you do it correctly.
• 31:38
  And this is the thing that everyone seems to misunderstand.
• 31:44
  The the carbon footprint of, you know, nuclear energy is.
• 31:51
  Infinitely less from what I understand of that of like say
• 31:55
  ohh those those stupid. You know Mercury Field field?
• 32:02
  I'll say you're you're kinda, you're something like.
• 32:05
  You're about halfway there. So in the mathematical sense,
• 32:09
  sure, one is infinitely larger than zero, as is any other
• 32:13
  rational number greater than 0. But it'd be a negative footprint
• 32:18
  because you absolutely have nothing to do with the you.
• 32:20
  You don't have to worry about anything else.
• 32:23
  It's as soon as you get one nuclear plant up and running, it
• 32:26
  provides electricity. That can be your dependency for
• 32:29
  building anything else. I mean that that's in a perfect
• 32:32
  world, sure. But it's as far as that goes, it
• 32:36
  effectively has a 0 carbon footprint.
• 32:39
  Yeah, no, I I guess what I'm saying is, you know, based off
• 32:44
  of the limited research I'm done, I've done in the past on
• 32:49
  this. It seems like all the quote UN
• 32:53
  quote, uh, you know, green energy solutions that we've, you
• 32:57
  know, seen over the past. 10 to 15 years or actually more
• 33:03
  detrimental to the environment. Per se, then you know, nuclear
• 33:10
  energy as a whole. So let me go ahead and help you
• 33:13
  out with this one. Just we'll tackle two of them
• 33:16
  really easily. There's wind and solar now.
• 33:21
  Absence all of the. Costs prior and absent a scaled
• 33:28
  down application, appropriate usage.
• 33:32
  View they are both horrible for general power consumption, for
• 33:38
  general power generation. So if you have, if you get a
• 33:42
  solar panel and you use it for however long you use it, you
• 33:46
  know say like a 10 or 20 year period, you've done your payback
• 33:49
  period, you make a net positive cash.
• 33:52
  And you are now no longer using the energy.
• 33:56
  You know, beyond the sunk cost, you know they're using the the
• 33:58
  energy would be using from the grid by using your solar cells.
• 34:02
  Sure, you can get to a point where you can make the argument
• 34:04
  that you have now become net carbon positive, if you will,
• 34:08
  or, sorry, net carbon negative. You've now gotten to the point
• 34:12
  where you're using. You're using energy that is not
• 34:15
  being produced by carbon. Period.
• 34:18
  You know, or you can say you've at least gotten carbon neutral.
• 34:21
  Problem is, um, just for perspective, um.
• 34:26
  We can actually just. Slight tangent here.
• 34:30
  For automotive vehicles. Cars that have a combustion
• 34:35
  engine in them, half of their carbon footprint.
• 34:38
  Is in their construction. The other half is in the 10 year
• 34:42
  period. They're expected to be used
• 34:44
  after they've been sold. So about half of the carbon
• 34:48
  that's released under the air is just from making the thing, you
• 34:52
  know, making, refining the metals for the engine block, all
• 34:55
  the panels, all that, all that stuff, count all of it up.
• 34:58
  Yeah, about half the carbon that's released is just from the
• 35:00
  energy intensity of making the vehicle.
• 35:04
  For electric vehicles, it's about 75% of their carbon
• 35:07
  footprint. Now you can take that two
• 35:10
  different ways depending on how you consider the usage.
• 35:14
  Lithium refining is an intensive process which is pretty dirty in
• 35:17
  its own right. But at the end of the day,
• 35:19
  you're using electricity off the grid, which?
• 35:22
  You know may or may not be coming from a carbon source, but
• 35:25
  the assumption right now is that it's coming from the carbon
• 35:27
  source more or less. They use the the industry
• 35:29
  averaging for how much carbon that each Watt hour coming in
• 35:35
  represents, but it's basically from a carbon source.
• 35:40
  So. That kind of waiting there, you
• 35:44
  know, the electric vehicles may or may not be a better option in
• 35:47
  that sense. Well, now we can go back and
• 35:49
  say, OK, let's, let's talk about how we make these devices for
• 35:54
  renewable energy sources. So for solar cells.
• 35:59
  How did they get the silicon to make the solar cell?
• 36:03
  While they take a bunch of really pure sand silicon
• 36:06
  dioxide. And they mix it with.
• 36:10
  Cool. Carbon and then they burn off
• 36:13
  all the oxygen and CO2. So solar cells have a massive
• 36:19
  carbon footprint when they're made.
• 36:22
  And you have to get past all of that sunk cost before you can
• 36:26
  start saying, OK, now I'm carbon neutral or work or what have
• 36:29
  you. So while solar is fantastic in
• 36:33
  certain applications, for instance when you're far away
• 36:35
  from grid source and you don't have the capital or the
• 36:39
  regulatory approval to use nuclear for a small modular
• 36:42
  reactor, just as an example. Then Sir, you have these in each
• 36:47
  applications where it makes sense to use solar or wind.
• 36:51
  Uh, for wind? Um.
• 36:53
  The layup process itself uses epoxy and glass or carbon fiber.
• 36:59
  So that's a labor intensive process more than it is an
• 37:02
  energy intensive process now these what was billed to what
• 37:06
  was sold to the American people back in the 80s for wind farms.
• 37:10
  Was that they would not only be cheaper.
• 37:13
  Uh, which was done through government subsidies.
• 37:15
  So that was already a strike against them.
• 37:18
  Uh, but they'd also be easier to maintain.
• 37:22
  And they would last for like 25 years.
• 37:26
  Um, the blades anyway. So the maintenance scheduling is
• 37:31
  supposed to be cheaper because the blades are supposed to last
• 37:33
  for a very long time. And the problem was?
• 37:36
  That, particularly in the air, will shred the, uh, the leading
• 37:40
  surface of these blades. And these blades are not
• 37:44
  recyclable. If you've probably seen a couple
• 37:45
  of those pictures of a tiny little tractor plowing dirt over
• 37:49
  these massive blades on the ground, yeah, real.
• 37:53
  That's what you have to do. So here's the thing.
• 37:55
  You can kind of recycle the materials, but it is way cheaper
• 38:00
  just to bury them and make new ones.
• 38:03
  So that's what they do. And it turns out that the repair
• 38:05
  schedule on these, the maintenance schedule is not,
• 38:08
  it's not 25 years for the blades to be replaced, it's about five
• 38:12
  years. That's bad.
• 38:14
  That's five times the cost you thought you're going to be
• 38:16
  having. Put the maintenance schedule to
• 38:19
  evaluate whether or not the blades are even in need of
• 38:22
  repair. Has to be has to happen at least
• 38:25
  that much more frequently as well.
• 38:27
  So not only are these people not only need more personnel, they
• 38:30
  need to be going to these devices, shutting them down and
• 38:34
  evaluating them. More than five times as often as
• 38:37
  was promised. The cost breaking even, I don't
• 38:40
  know where the number is, but it's it's somewhere between 25
• 38:43
  and five years for a service life on a blade and we've
• 38:48
  clearly went way past that. So it's, it's, it is, it is a
• 38:53
  net negative cost like it is, it is expensive to run these and
• 38:57
  you're not gaining anything in terms of efficiency of cost.
• 39:01
  Well, well, not to mention, I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty
• 39:06
  well known now. But I mean, sure, when I, when
• 39:10
  I, when I was in junior, when I was in junior high, that was
• 39:14
  when. An inconvenient truth came out
• 39:17
  and. You know we, we were all forced
• 39:20
  to watch that and one of the one of the things that was you know
• 39:24
  really pushed in that piece of shit propaganda, you know, piece
• 39:30
  was wind power and and then it came out later that the the
• 39:35
  turbines were responsible for like massive bird, you know.
• 39:42
  Ohh yeah, that's true. That's true.
• 39:45
  Yeah, there are. There's a few species that are.
• 39:48
  They've actually had to decommission a few farms.
• 39:51
  Yeah, like the flight paths of a couple of different species of
• 39:55
  bird that have been that were driven towards extinction.
• 39:59
  Because because of these wind farms.
• 40:03
  Well, the the Martha's Vineyard Democrats, the Martha's Vineyard
• 40:07
  Democrats have fought with the state of Massachusetts for years
• 40:11
  out here about a wind farm because they think it's an
• 40:14
  eyesore and bad for birds. But it's literally like Obama,
• 40:18
  John Kerry, and like those people that push this stuff,
• 40:21
  they they literally don't want it in their back.
• 40:23
  Well, so this is, This is why you have to watch what they do,
• 40:26
  not what they say. They say that they want wind
• 40:30
  farms and that the costs are going to be flooded in five
• 40:33
  years. And then they buy, you know, $50
• 40:36
  million houses on the coast and say I don't want to see the wind
• 40:39
  farm. Well, I mean, it's yeah, it's
• 40:44
  it's going to be your backyard, asshole.
• 40:46
  I'm sorry. Rules for thee but not for me,
• 40:53
  right? Like for like this, like if, if.
• 40:58
  If the global warming side of things, if that's going to erase
• 41:03
  the coasts in of Miami, if Miami Beach is going to disappear in
• 41:08
  1015 years due to our current behavior, every single one of
• 41:12
  those hotel owners. Every single one of those condo
• 41:15
  owners. Would be lobbying Congress right
• 41:18
  now. Demanding immediate relief for
• 41:23
  what's going on. And the fact is that there is
• 41:28
  that the the scientific question, you know, scientific
• 41:30
  debate doesn't end. That's what science is.
• 41:32
  Is it a long debate? Yeah.
• 41:35
  There's no such thing as consensus in that regard.
• 41:39
  Their scientific consensus involves a long standing
• 41:42
  argument that has not been concluded but has been pretty
• 41:45
  well argued. It's it's it's like the the sun
• 41:50
  being the center of the solar system is a consensus things
• 41:53
  like that right. Well you see that's The thing is
• 41:56
  they would they would say in the day of Galileo when he was
• 42:00
  imprisoned in his house. Consensus at the time was that
• 42:04
  the sun, you know, the heliocentric theory was true,
• 42:07
  right? Aristotle is here.
• 42:08
  Aristotle pushing that and then driving him into his house.
• 42:11
  Arrest was justified on that basis.
• 42:15
  That he was spreading, he was spreading.
• 42:17
  Um, misinformation, if you will. And and therefore had to be had
• 42:24
  to be corrected by Doctor Aristotle.
• 42:27
  It's almost like there's nothing new under the sun, right?
• 42:31
  Ohh that's brilliant. Or or as Owen Benjamin likes to
• 42:37
  put put it, Aristotle was practicing wizardry or something
• 42:43
  or something like like that. But, I mean, like here's The
• 42:48
  thing is is Aristotelian logic is is fairly good.
• 42:52
  If you're gonna go through, you know, philosophy major, you're
• 42:55
  gonna be spending a lot of time bowing down to Aristotle.
• 42:58
  He wasn't exactly a dumb guy, but.
• 43:00
  When he got something wrong, he really got wrong.
• 43:05
  Yeah, well, it was. Well, so did.
• 43:09
  So did Charles Darwin. And yet, like all the lefties,
• 43:13
  still worshipped the fuck out of him.
• 43:17
  Sure. I mean.
• 43:19
  The funny thing about Darwin is his survival.
• 43:22
  Survival of the fittest is a as a.
• 43:25
  A concept is fun because it's really not survival of the
• 43:29
  fittest, it's survival of the fit enough.
• 43:32
  Um. And that there's a gap between
• 43:37
  fit enough and fittest. And that gap is an important
• 43:42
  buffer. That allows genetic diversity to
• 43:44
  exist. If it was survival of the
• 43:46
  fittest, then every time a calamity happened, all the
• 43:49
  fittest would suddenly not be fit anymore.
• 43:52
  And we wouldn't have anybody left.
• 43:55
  Hmm. So it's that that buffer is
• 43:57
  hugely important for the survival of life.
• 44:00
  Genetics and evolution can't just, like you know, exist on
• 44:06
  that level of min maxing, right? By definition.
• 44:11
  I mean it's it's also a multivariable optimization
• 44:13
  problem, which means you can have minima that are directed
• 44:17
  and opposite and opposing matrices.
• 44:20
  So things like having a saddle shape and then saying find the
• 44:24
  minimum and ending up in that meta stable point in the middle.
• 44:28
  So if you have these kind of complications to the playing
• 44:32
  field so to speak, it's not, it's not flat or level in any
• 44:35
  sense. Yeah, well, This is why I often
• 44:40
  bring up the the theory of human action with people in regards
• 44:44
  to, like more politics than originally intended by Mises to
• 44:48
  be a sort of an economic theory, you know what I mean?
• 44:52
  Because it's it's a very common thing in computer software or
• 44:56
  especially video games, right? Where as soon as it is
• 45:00
  predictable but yet unpredictable that somebody's
• 45:03
  going to come in, break the game somehow for their advantage,
• 45:06
  cheat, duplicate, whatever. Do something and and of course
• 45:11
  then the devs have to find all those.
• 45:14
  Basically plug them. Diablo 2 versus the Diablo two
• 45:17
  players versus all of Battle.net centers.
• 45:21
  Yeah. And that's, that's on every
• 45:23
  level of life, man. You know, like you can't, you
• 45:25
  can't predict all of that kind of behavior that people have,
• 45:28
  which is why you can't centrally plan things.
• 45:31
  And I actually feel like libertarians who talk about this
• 45:34
  theory of human action actually do it a disservice because they
• 45:37
  only apply it to economics. But I think it, it, it applies
• 45:40
  very much. It's almost a law of like
• 45:45
  sociology, if you think about it, is that humans are going to
• 45:49
  behave in ways that we just can't predict.
• 45:51
  And or account for ahead of time and we have to react to later.
• 45:57
  So you know, and this is not to fall through on the mockery, the
• 46:01
  well justified mockery from Robin Williams on to Rumsfeld.
• 46:06
  But you have your your known knowns, you have your known
• 46:09
  unknowns, and you have your unknown unknowns.
• 46:13
  Right. So you have those things that
• 46:15
  you can account for and can control.
• 46:18
  You have things that you know that you don't know, and then
• 46:22
  you have things that are gonna come out of middle of freaking
• 46:26
  nowhere and wipe you out. Basically, you have your your
• 46:30
  Black Swan kind of stuff. You know, the things that you
• 46:32
  have no idea that's going to be a problem, but then suddenly
• 46:35
  there it is. So like, there's things that you
• 46:38
  can definitely control and and those are what you should be
• 46:40
  concerned yourself about in general.
• 46:42
  You have things that you know you don't know.
• 46:44
  And so you should be planning for how those known unknowns
• 46:48
  might impact your ability to control what you do know about.
• 46:52
  And then you have stuff that's going to just come along and
• 46:56
  flip the chess board. Hmm.
• 46:58
  Well. Well, and and going back to this
• 47:01
  whole train thing, it seems like.
• 47:04
  It seems like that's a lot of this, you know, fear mongering
• 47:09
  BS on both sides. It is, right?
• 47:12
  It it's. It's, you know, knowing it's.
• 47:17
  Let's say it's knowledge gap there, yeah, but more
• 47:20
  importantly, what the thing that they should be focusing on is
• 47:22
  that these were known knowns that were a problem.
• 47:27
  And the companies unwillingness to do things like.
• 47:32
  Sufficient upkeep to maintain the bearings and all of the
• 47:35
  wheels on their cars. Travelling down the track
• 47:38
  containing hazardous materials and they are hazardous.
• 47:42
  Um. You know, despite doesn't matter
• 47:45
  how long they're hazardous while they're in that tank and
• 47:47
  traveling down the rail, they are hazardous.
• 47:50
  And the fact that they decided to cut corners in that regard,
• 47:54
  they they cheaped out led to basically ruining a town for at
• 48:00
  least a couple years. You know, here's The thing is, I
• 48:03
  think the water's going to be in.
• 48:04
  My intuition here is that the water is safe.
• 48:09
  I think that people should be tested.
• 48:10
  I think that it is absolutely 100% their rights and it is our
• 48:15
  responsibility as a country to coddle them in this way, that it
• 48:20
  should be their right to demand that that water is tested damn
• 48:23
  near hourly to make sure nothing is coming out of the ground that
• 48:27
  will harm them. And I can tell you that all the
• 48:28
  monomers reacted away. It's all gone, like it's never
• 48:31
  coming back. It's all gone.
• 48:33
  The products that come out of that, the short chain oligomers,
• 48:36
  so little. So monomer is a single unit in a
• 48:39
  polymer. And so very, very short polymers
• 48:43
  are called short chain oligomers.
• 48:46
  And so that's, you know, anywhere between like 2 and 8
• 48:48
  units longer, 2 and 20 units long, we're talking pretty short
• 48:51
  polymer here. So fairly enough to be called a
• 48:54
  polymer in the 1st place. That kind of level stuff is
• 48:57
  still mobile, but bacteria and other other microflora,
• 49:00
  microfauna love to munch that stuff up so it will be
• 49:05
  neutralized completely. That's the good news.
• 49:08
  When that happens is kind of kind of up for debate.
• 49:11
  But my intuition is that it'll happen before the diffusion
• 49:14
  bound reaches the groundwater. You know, artesian wells are
• 49:18
  start at 80 feet and go down to like 120 feet.
• 49:21
  If that's their if, that's a major water source besides the
• 49:24
  upstream water which is coming downriver to their facilities.
• 49:27
  Um. If they're if they're major
• 49:30
  sources of water, if they have available, or basically well
• 49:32
  water or upstream water sources, their water is good.
• 49:36
  The ground around their homes, especially near the accident
• 49:40
  site. Probably not so good right now
• 49:44
  the. You know the the stuff going
• 49:47
  downriver is all being diluted to irrelevance, which is great
• 49:52
  news. You know, the volume of the
• 49:54
  river is so much larger than the volume of stuff that got dumped
• 49:58
  into it. The other thing people weren't
• 50:01
  really recognizing here is that there was an oil slick because
• 50:04
  two tankers full of Lube oil. Drained out and for whatever
• 50:09
  reason, people were harping on the stuff that was actually
• 50:12
  resolved, the vinyl chloride. The Lube oil is going to stick
• 50:17
  around longer. That's not a monomer, that's the
• 50:19
  polymer. It's it's, you know, while it
• 50:22
  might be subjective, it might be subjective to UV radiation and
• 50:26
  bacterial degradation. You know it's going to be broken
• 50:28
  down overtime. It takes a lot longer to break
• 50:31
  that stuff down in the environment.
• 50:33
  Yeah, you get my oil spills bad. Yeah, you get even little oil
• 50:37
  slicks in like the local pond and and that shit will stick
• 50:40
  around way, way, way longer than you ever imagine.
• 50:44
  You know, it's it's pretty much about what I expect for that.
• 50:47
  Yeah, yeah, it's, it's. But it's also not the end of the
• 50:51
  world. I saw a lot of videos like
• 50:53
  freaking out about it, and they didn't even realize what it was.
• 50:58
  There's just so much lake. There's so many known knowns, as
• 51:03
  you said, that are unknown to people.
• 51:06
  Right. Yeah.
• 51:07
  And and and then it's getting mixed in with all this
• 51:11
  speculation and of course like building everything up is also
• 51:15
  sexy too. If you're trying to click bait
• 51:17
  and sell people on a on a nation is one of those things to do
• 51:20
  with. I mean first another great one
• 51:23
  and I'm glad that there wasn't anywhere near as much hype let
• 51:26
  alone misinformation blowing out around it.
• 51:29
  But the truck that tipped over on the highway that had a tank
• 51:33
  full of metric acid in it. Which immediately started going
• 51:38
  up which? So nitric acid is an oxidizing
• 51:42
  acid, so not only does the acid part of it.
• 51:46
  Cause problems by, you know, just attacking stuff with by its
• 51:49
  pH. But the nitrate ion will oxidize
• 51:53
  other materials that will become it will give up.
• 51:58
  It'll it'll basically rip electrons, so it'll create
• 52:02
  nitric oxide gas, so No2. And it'll.
• 52:08
  Ruin whatever it touches, basically.
• 52:10
  I mean, it's, I don't wanna make it sound way worse than it is,
• 52:13
  but it's is a pretty savage acid when it comes.
• 52:16
  No. But it does have all kinds of
• 52:18
  industrial purposes. I was gonna say I've used it a
• 52:21
  million important stuff. Like yeah, like a lot of people
• 52:24
  use it in industrial uses. It's fairly safe when you
• 52:27
  transport it, right. But put it like this, like it's
• 52:29
  not. Perception is that nearly as
• 52:33
  fuck when when it hits the ground or something like that,
• 52:37
  right? But but it's not like the end of
• 52:39
  the world kind of thing. So.
• 52:40
  So for one thing, nitric acid is not like something that has been
• 52:44
  nitrated, which would be something more akin to an
• 52:47
  explosive. Nitric acid by itself is not an
• 52:50
  explosive. It is also transported as a
• 52:53
  solution in water. So it's not that dangerous on
• 52:56
  its own like that. It mostly just bubbles and
• 52:59
  hisses, right? Yeah, it burns.
• 53:02
  Cruise ship really good right? So there's going to be base
• 53:06
  probably about a 40 foot by 100 foot section of ground where
• 53:10
  that truck landed, which is gonna have a real hard time
• 53:13
  growing anything for a few months.
• 53:15
  Yeah, you know, it's, it's good thing it's a high.
• 53:19
  Anything that does grow right there is probably gonna have a
• 53:22
  bunch of nitrated stuff in it, which is gonna be basically just
• 53:25
  imagine it's growing cancer for you.
• 53:29
  Don't eat it. Yeah, I would.
• 53:31
  I wouldn't let a cow graze there for a little while.
• 53:34
  But yeah, that's gonna be the end of it.
• 53:36
  You know, the rains, it'll soak in.
• 53:38
  I mean the, the nitrates, nitrates are also fertilizer.
• 53:42
  So eventually something will grow there very, very well.
• 53:45
  I would, you know, I'd give it a few months and then plant the
• 53:48
  tree. You know, that tree will grow
• 53:50
  very, very tall and strong. Yeah.
• 53:54
  Yeah, but don't. But don't trust the government.
• 53:58
  No, I mean, here's the thing. The government's proven that it
• 54:01
  is willing to lie for the dumbest reasons.
• 54:04
  Yeah, for a very long time and very often not even good
• 54:07
  reasons, just completely idiotic reasons.
• 54:11
  It's almost always boils down to, well, this guy thought it
• 54:14
  was a great idea, but it turns out he was lied to by this guy
• 54:17
  who wanted to get the grant money and therefore it was
• 54:20
  embarrassing. So all these people had to be
• 54:23
  put in the dark and also FU for paying taxes.
• 54:26
  Yeah, and also pay more taxes. And also pay more of them, yes.
• 54:32
  I mean the, the, the men who seek the what was it the men who
• 54:35
  watch goats, was that the name of the movie at the.
• 54:37
  Yeah. The one that was actually a real
• 54:39
  experiment that they did was to have people, you know, the idea
• 54:42
  that they could have psychokinesis.
• 54:45
  They tested that as well as. As well as.
• 54:52
  Telepathy. So the idea that people might be
• 54:54
  able to predict, you know, say the next card in a deck kind of
• 54:57
  thing. Now while it's it's it's an
• 54:59
  interesting experiment. So here's the first thing.
• 55:02
  You go to Feynman's axiom on this one, if your theory doesn't
• 55:05
  agree with experiment, and the theory is garbage, experiment is
• 55:08
  king. Check it with an observation.
• 55:11
  So I don't blame somebody for saying OK, why don't we just do
• 55:14
  it? Let's see if somebody can
• 55:15
  predict the next card to deck better than chance.
• 55:19
  Which obviously failed. By the way, nobody was able to
• 55:22
  predict the next card better than chance.
• 55:26
  Um, but you know how much money you're going to pay for that out
• 55:29
  of a government budget? I mean, imagine that was
• 55:31
  something where they, they did that against somebody's will or
• 55:34
  without them knowing, like say, I don't know, the Tuskegee
• 55:38
  syphilis issue. Uh, which was pretty fucking
• 55:41
  damning. Yeah, that's one I I brought up
• 55:45
  a lot. You know, when there was a lot
• 55:47
  of like talk of vaccine hesitancy among particularly the
• 55:51
  black population in America, it's like, well, no shit,
• 55:56
  Sherlock. The last time you gave them a
• 55:57
  vaccine and gave like half of them syphilis.
• 56:00
  Yeah, then you have people like Campbell coming out and that's
• 56:04
  in his living anymore. Then you have people like
• 56:07
  Camilla coming out and using that.
• 56:09
  In a partisan manner to only because it's Trump that was
• 56:13
  pushing the vaccine so hard. Campbell comes out and for
• 56:16
  months says we're not gonna take it like Tuskegee.
• 56:20
  And then as soon as Biden shows up on the scene and around
• 56:25
  October, Ish. The whole the whole narrative
• 56:28
  flips, the whole messaging stops.
• 56:31
  Camila is no longer anti VAX. Yeah, the The funny thing about
• 56:36
  that is. When my old cohost apex and I we
• 56:42
  we brought up the Tuskegee Airmen.
• 56:46
  Thing. And that was that was actually
• 56:48
  one of the videos that got struck on my old.
• 56:54
  YouTube Channel was for you know.
• 56:58
  Quote UN quote medical misinformation even that so
• 57:01
  we're already beyond the pale tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
• 57:06
  Joining us over here on Odyssey, Rumble and everywhere else where
• 57:09
  we can talk about some things that are not even all that
• 57:13
  fucking edgy. But forget this.
• 57:16
  I mean, if we're on that topic, and I don't mean to pull your
• 57:19
  airtime for the show, another show.
• 57:23
  You know, do a show with Evan and Steve.
• 57:26
  So the fake untitled podcast. And are you my favorite podcast,
• 57:31
  by the way, to anybody that cares about that endorsement.
• 57:38
  Ohh, come on, Sam's gotta be a close second.
• 57:40
  Well, now, now, now this is taking over the spot, right?
• 57:44
  And we've merged everything. I mean, I thought to have Sam on
• 57:50
  that one too. Like we we got on YouTube and we
• 57:54
  were right. Like so we've been doing this,
• 57:56
  our show over there since late 2020.
• 58:00
  And so clearly, Evan basically came me and said, hey, uh, why
• 58:05
  help me out with this show? I mean, you know, I've known you
• 58:07
  for years. Actually, just come in at least,
• 58:10
  you know, we'll talk about this COVID shit.
• 58:12
  You can you can at least go over how to keep yourself safe.
• 58:14
  And you know what the I need some ideas for where things are
• 58:17
  going and Evan, Steve and I. So Steve is a nuclear engineer,
• 58:23
  but also formally trained as chemical engineer.
• 58:26
  And then Evan is more of a layperson.
• 58:29
  So you gotta spread spectrum of. Of of depth on our topics, so to
• 58:35
  speak, as well as personalities, which is all personality.
• 58:40
  Yeah, if you're into nerd shit, it's the literally the best
• 58:43
  podcast out there, hands down. So we, you know, we've been
• 58:48
  right about the stuff we talked about.
• 58:51
  Because we, you know, so Steven, I'll disagree a lot on things
• 58:55
  and it's we we have our own opinions on opinions on things,
• 58:59
  but the thing that we make sure to do on that show.
• 59:03
  At the very minimum when we start talking on the subject is
• 59:06
  to cover the facts that we agree on, because facts should not be
• 59:11
  different between two people with differing opinions.
• 59:14
  If you can't agree on the facts of the matter, then your
• 59:16
  opinions really don't matter. So I'm not saying that are
• 59:20
  terribly elsewise. But you know, the idea there is
• 59:22
  that when we argue, we say, OK, we know all of this stuff to be
• 59:25
  true. Here's what I take from it, and
• 59:27
  This is why you're taking from it is garbage and you should go
• 59:30
  die in a fire. So two things I I have to
• 59:37
  interrupt real quick. Hey Vickers, come over and watch
• 59:41
  here we are far more entertaining than than the fact
• 59:45
  than the fat hog. You know what, why don't you,
• 59:50
  why don't you come over here and watch something entertaining,
• 59:53
  bro, I'm gonna stay on him. The link.
• 59:57
  Now I'll say this. One thing we do on the other
• 1:00:00
  podcast is we tend to steer away from the personality drama
• 1:00:04
  because that's that bogs people down so much.
• 1:00:07
  Yeah, no, you're you're absolutely right.
• 1:00:09
  Far more entertaining to do this.
• 1:00:11
  Yeah, so so do so do I mean, I don't really cover any of the
• 1:00:16
  drama here except when the E drama people.
• 1:00:20
  And wormed their way into politics and right, yeah, fuck
• 1:00:26
  I. The fact that these people then
• 1:00:28
  got involved in politics is just irritating.
• 1:00:32
  But that's all another thankful foil.
• 1:00:36
  Such is such a. Fantastic Precision Bomb of
• 1:00:41
  controlled opposition on basically every front you can
• 1:00:43
  get from the ass end of the horseshoe.
• 1:00:45
  Yep. And then some, yeah.
• 1:00:50
  And then, so I was gonna mention to you that, you know, and then
• 1:00:53
  the power chat money laundering scam, right.
• 1:00:56
  And all this other fucking crap that they're up to.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, you mentioned that the YouTube thing where you got
• 1:01:03
  struck and so on, we got. So I made the fun choice of
• 1:01:08
  mocking a certain. Child groomer named Lucas and
• 1:01:13
  suddenly some other some other stuff that we've had, we've
• 1:01:16
  already been having some issues with the whole medical
• 1:01:18
  misinformation thing. We got in a couple strikes from
• 1:01:21
  that, but then we we got other strikes that came in.
• 1:01:24
  We had those resolved. We had other strikes that came
• 1:01:28
  in curiously close to some some other untoward mockery that I've
• 1:01:32
  been conducting on my ship posting.
• 1:01:35
  Elsewhere. And suddenly some other stuff on
• 1:01:38
  YouTube was getting flagged. So we had to actually drop all
• 1:01:40
  our videos from YouTube. We have private them for a
• 1:01:43
  while. And we're largely on Odyssey
• 1:01:46
  right now. We, you know we.
• 1:01:49
  We make the podcast, we publish it out to anchor, and it goes
• 1:01:51
  everywhere. But the actual live stuff is on
• 1:01:54
  Odyssey. What?
• 1:01:58
  Um, very cool, I I have to ask what is the?
• 1:02:03
  What is like the biggest like? Pet peeves stereotype about like
• 1:02:09
  chemicals and whatnot that you've seen in like movies and
• 1:02:13
  entertainment that you just roll your.
• 1:02:16
  Eyes of some I I imagine there's gotta be a few.
• 1:02:20
  So the idea for instance that so this is just this is like a pet
• 1:02:25
  peeve but it's just like one of those things that you notice.
• 1:02:28
  Like, if if someone's working with an acid, you have the
• 1:02:31
  strength of the acid is never going to be reckless.
• 1:02:33
  You just assume that they are making the assumption for
• 1:02:35
  audience sake that it is a strong asset when they're making
• 1:02:38
  it very seem like it's, you know, the destructive, bubbling
• 1:02:42
  goo that will ruin everything. But the fact that stuff like
• 1:02:45
  sulfuric acid, for example, will instantly start destroying
• 1:02:49
  someone's skin. Which, by the way, you have like
• 1:02:52
  a solid minute to get your hand underwater.
• 1:02:55
  Do not wait a minute, but, like, you have a minute to do it.
• 1:02:58
  It's not so bad. I had a coworker burn his hand
• 1:03:01
  on some nitric acid one time. Yeah, and he, you know, he it
• 1:03:06
  was a little tiny drop. He had, like skin discoloration.
• 1:03:09
  He got all fucked up in that one little area.
• 1:03:11
  That hurts a little bit, but he lives another day.
• 1:03:14
  Yeah, like sulfuric acid. Takes a while to get through the
• 1:03:17
  carrot and layers of your skin. Does the surface layers of your
• 1:03:22
  skin. Keratin.
• 1:03:25
  It will attack even slower. That's your fingernails.
• 1:03:27
  And here with the those dead layers of skin cells do a bang
• 1:03:32
  up job keeping stuff like sulfuric acid out and so
• 1:03:35
  concentrated sulfuric acid which is used all the time as a
• 1:03:39
  lubricant for your ground glass joints and your laboratory
• 1:03:42
  setups. Like that it it you can work
• 1:03:45
  with that stuff. I mean you again, you shouldn't.
• 1:03:48
  You should use gloves. But you can work with your bare
• 1:03:51
  hands and if you get any on you just put your hands into the
• 1:03:53
  sink. Um in hydrochloric acid is also
• 1:03:57
  hyped up. That one's not bad at all, but
• 1:04:01
  anyway, the that instantaneously destroying stuff?
• 1:04:04
  That's kind of silly. And the liquid nitrogen
• 1:04:08
  instantly freezing everything it touches.
• 1:04:10
  Kind of silly lighting. Frost effect exists, but but
• 1:04:14
  liquid nitrogen is fun to play with.
• 1:04:17
  To be fair, it's massive. So in my lab for a while the
• 1:04:22
  stuff I was doing. So we have, we had a 200 meter
• 1:04:27
  high, so when we moved buildings we ended up getting a high
• 1:04:30
  pressure. 200 liter doer. Uh, so one of those tanks that's
• 1:04:35
  about up to your collarbone? And about if you touch your
• 1:04:39
  fingers together in front of you in a hoop, it's about that big
• 1:04:42
  around. And it's about as it's about up
• 1:04:44
  to your collarbone and height. So that's 200 liter doer, that's
• 1:04:48
  a big, big tank insulated tank. And we had a high pressure one
• 1:04:53
  for liquid nitrogen. And I don't know why we got it
• 1:04:55
  that way. We only needed low pressure in
• 1:04:57
  the lab. But one of the things I had to
• 1:04:59
  do just about every day going in as a safety guy in the lab is
• 1:05:03
  purge tank because a lot of these users were low pressure.
• 1:05:06
  So we needed the stuff at ambient pressure which is very
• 1:05:10
  cold inside. So because it's basically a
• 1:05:14
  boiling point inside the tank, you can imagine equating
• 1:05:17
  pressure on temperature in this. In this way it follows a curve.
• 1:05:21
  So ambient pressure is around 77 Kelvin.
• 1:05:28
  Ish inside. Minus 196 C It's very cold.
• 1:05:34
  So, so I had to go ahead and purge the tank and then pull out
• 1:05:38
  a leader of liquid nitrogen, at least from the tap to clear out
• 1:05:43
  any water crystals that might fall in while it's purging out
• 1:05:46
  the air or purging out the dry nitrogen gas.
• 1:05:50
  Oh my God. So liquid liquid nitrogen is
• 1:05:53
  basically a waste byproduct? That is that is too much fun for
• 1:05:58
  one man. Every word you have, God damn
• 1:06:00
  it. So every morning for for a
• 1:06:02
  couple of years. I had to go in and do that.
• 1:06:05
  And so I mean I put videos, there's a slew of videos on my
• 1:06:08
  YouTube channel. On my personal bet there is a
• 1:06:11
  minus because at a certain point like I gotta show some of the
• 1:06:14
  shift among my friends, so I put it into a tray.
• 1:06:17
  I also did cryo fractures for some seem microscopy, so
• 1:06:22
  scanning electron microscopy. Um.
• 1:06:25
  And sought to do prior fractures.
• 1:06:27
  You pour out your liquid nitrogen.
• 1:06:28
  So I would take this opportunity to do that as well.
• 1:06:30
  But the tin that I would put it in is basically like a little
• 1:06:33
  like one of those little bread loaf baking tins, except this
• 1:06:36
  Man of Steel. It's a lab tray.
• 1:06:39
  So not it's. It's shaped the same as the
• 1:06:42
  bakeware, but it's not bakeware. So, because it's a thin metal
• 1:06:47
  wall, of course it starts condensing the atmosphere on the
• 1:06:50
  sides of it, which drips off the bottom and skitters around
• 1:06:54
  inside the lab food. So I just just have video of
• 1:06:59
  that happening and and then also you know because I have it may
• 1:07:02
  as well if you pour liquid nitrogen into a you know your
• 1:07:05
  your generic red solo cup and leave it on the table insulate.
• 1:07:09
  It is smarter than that but you can do it either way.
• 1:07:12
  Oxygen will condense from the atmosphere into it.
• 1:07:16
  And nitrogen will boil off. So if you let it sit there for a
• 1:07:20
  while and you come back when you got about an inch or half inch
• 1:07:22
  of it left, it'll be very pale blue.
• 1:07:25
  Because it's got condensed oxygen inside.
• 1:07:30
  So there's all kinds of fun stuff that I got to play with as
• 1:07:33
  I was doing that. Yeah, so a couple of years I had
• 1:07:36
  to purge out about a liter or two liters.
• 1:07:38
  Now I just, I used the thermos. I brought a thermos in from home
• 1:07:42
  and slapped the label on it. And that was that was the lab
• 1:07:47
  door for for purging. That's amazing.
• 1:07:50
  I miss it. Now it's it's it's so much fun.
• 1:07:53
  I like here's The thing is you can go down to the hard, not the
• 1:07:56
  hardware store. You go down to the town as a
• 1:07:58
  local. Welding supply.
• 1:08:02
  Now you can't bring in an uncertified doer.
• 1:08:06
  Or a door in poor condition, or a thermos.
• 1:08:11
  Because the thermos becomes a bomb.
• 1:08:13
  Even if you've shown them that you have broken it so it cannot
• 1:08:17
  contain pressure anymore so that it can't seal, it's still
• 1:08:20
  they're not allowed to do it. Plus they also won't sell you
• 1:08:23
  like less than 10 liters of nitrogen anyway.
• 1:08:26
  But they have liquid nitrogen on site at a welding supply store,
• 1:08:29
  welding supply stores. They have other gases too, but
• 1:08:32
  nitrogen is the fun one. We used to have it on site.
• 1:08:36
  I worked at a high tech manufacturing.
• 1:08:39
  We use it for purging out some of the the wafers.
• 1:08:44
  I forget the the containers we grew the wafers in in like the
• 1:08:48
  the the deep manufacturing vessels.
• 1:08:53
  And so we we had a ton of it, but like it wasn't a waste
• 1:08:56
  product, it was a resource. That's why I was like ohh if it
• 1:09:00
  was a waste product I would have a lot of fun with that actually
• 1:09:03
  part best part about the way that we had it set up at our
• 1:09:06
  building. There's a massive tank of liquid
• 1:09:09
  nitrogen and Outback and. All you had to have was the key
• 1:09:14
  to the padlock. And you go in there and fill up
• 1:09:17
  your tank and you bring it back up to your lab.
• 1:09:19
  Or you go down there and, you know, fill up your thermos or
• 1:09:21
  whatever, and you bring it back to your lab.
• 1:09:23
  So. I it's it.
• 1:09:26
  It takes so much nitrogen, you know, it's not like that much,
• 1:09:30
  but it takes a decent amount of nitrogen to purge out your line
• 1:09:33
  and chill it down before you can fill up a tank or a door that
• 1:09:36
  you don't just like. Go down there for a little 2
• 1:09:38
  liter thermos of it, you know, 200 liter tank, you're wasting
• 1:09:41
  maybe 5 or 6 liters of nitrogen to get that per, you know,
• 1:09:44
  filled up. But if you're going down there
• 1:09:46
  wasting like 6 liters of nitrogen on a 2 liter.
• 1:09:49
  Thermos, that's that's waste. But again, you just, you just go
• 1:09:53
  down like there's no metering, no like logging of that, none of
• 1:09:56
  that. It's just a building resource.
• 1:09:59
  So it wasn't even something we had to compete with for other
• 1:10:01
  labs because we gotta topped up by Airgas like every week or so.
• 1:10:09
  So always fun to watch. Good.
• 1:10:12
  Sorry. Yeah, so, I mean.
• 1:10:15
  So I mean, I guess kind of bringing this all back around.
• 1:10:19
  Yeah around though. To the whole.
• 1:10:26
  Thing with the. With the trains and whatnot,
• 1:10:30
  none of these chemicals are really going to do long term.
• 1:10:34
  Damage to the environment. Umm.
• 1:10:39
  I don't really know. We're getting at.
• 1:10:43
  No. And so here's the thing.
• 1:10:45
  The the stuff that was. Pretty bad.
• 1:10:50
  So, so the thing that people should have been most worried
• 1:10:52
  about. Where the people that were
• 1:10:54
  exposed so. So these monomers are very
• 1:10:57
  reactive just to keep that in mind.
• 1:11:00
  They go away quickly. The stuff they turn into isn't
• 1:11:04
  particularly nice, but it's a heck of a lot less dangerous
• 1:11:06
  than the monomer itself. And the stuff that turns into
• 1:11:10
  similarly disappears pretty quickly.
• 1:11:13
  The people who were exposed when the accident happened in the
• 1:11:17
  immediate aftermath of the accident did not have the
• 1:11:20
  benefit of a large amount of time to pass before the monomer
• 1:11:24
  got to them. You know, it was a direct
• 1:11:27
  exposure to the chemical which is hazardous.
• 1:11:30
  The vinyl chloride and the, you know, the three other monomers
• 1:11:34
  and the solvents and so on are involved.
• 1:11:38
  So those people or the people who should be of most concerned,
• 1:11:40
  they are the ones who who had an error exposure of volatile
• 1:11:45
  exposure and so they. Are going to have to go to the
• 1:11:48
  doctor and get evaluated for a while.
• 1:11:52
  Um. You know, the groundwater thing
• 1:11:55
  has a little more kind of a toss up.
• 1:11:58
  I still think that it's gonna be just fine.
• 1:12:01
  But you know the. The stuff that reacts way into
• 1:12:04
  is is fine and it goes away into the environment and gone.
• 1:12:08
  The environment will come back. The amount of rebounds you have,
• 1:12:12
  the wildlife will come back. The trees that are dead.
• 1:12:17
  Probably gonna wanna cut those down to keep them from falling
• 1:12:19
  on people's houses, you know? It's just like after any
• 1:12:22
  wildfire, they're gonna a little dry out a bit or they'll just
• 1:12:26
  rot, but they'll eventually get through coming down.
• 1:12:30
  Um, a lot of the stuff that was most dangerous got taken care of
• 1:12:34
  on site. Not in this the best way, but in
• 1:12:37
  the basically the best way that they had available to them at
• 1:12:39
  the time. So they drained out the tanks
• 1:12:43
  that they could into a common pit and lit it on fire and got
• 1:12:47
  rid of it. And the biggest dangerous
• 1:12:50
  product to come out of that was hydrochloric acid.
• 1:12:53
  Uh, so one of every four carbons that was involved in vinyl
• 1:12:55
  chloride is, sorry, one had already 4 hydrogens is replaced
• 1:12:59
  with a chlorine. You know, so your age your H2O
• 1:13:03
  becomes an HCL in some events or some cases so.
• 1:13:08
  That stuff will rain down, but that's gonna effectively be a
• 1:13:12
  mild infrastructure cost more than it is a human or wildlife
• 1:13:16
  cost because it's distributed over such a large area, right,
• 1:13:20
  that you're getting basically the mild acid rain that they
• 1:13:23
  warned everybody about in the 90s but never happened.
• 1:13:27
  So if you have open exposed metal surfaces where those
• 1:13:29
  clouds pass by, you might check for some pitting on the metal,
• 1:13:33
  but then again, it's a one and done event.
• 1:13:35
  You're not getting that rain coming back and burning more
• 1:13:38
  stuff. It's just like it creates sites
• 1:13:41
  for rust to begin, that kind of thing.
• 1:13:43
  Yeah, that's fine. It's got buffer, it's fine.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, yeah. We're not gonna have like,
• 1:13:49
  perpetual nuclear rain or nuclear winter because of any of
• 1:13:54
  this. Play.
• 1:13:58
  So, so um, speaking on the nuclear thing and you mentioned
• 1:14:01
  pet peeves. Earlier.
• 1:14:04
  The the fire at Oakridge. So I've been to that site before
• 1:14:10
  to check out their 3D printing areas.
• 1:14:12
  They're they're big area manufacturing printers, the band
• 1:14:16
  printer. Um, and they have that nuclear
• 1:14:20
  processing stuff on site there? Be the Y2 building or Y12
• 1:14:27
  building. Whatever it is, it's it's a
• 1:14:28
  building from 1945. But they used to do a nuclear
• 1:14:33
  processing in and most of the functions have been already
• 1:14:36
  transferred to other buildings and they're building a new
• 1:14:37
  building to take over the rest of it.
• 1:14:40
  So it's basically not doing a whole lot.
• 1:14:43
  There were. There were.
• 1:14:45
  So they they had a fire weapon, a few hood, and.
• 1:14:49
  And uranium metal was involved, which means gram quantities or
• 1:14:54
  milligram quantities. So he's like a little glass vial
• 1:14:58
  was sitting inside the the A fume hood nearby the fire or in
• 1:15:02
  the in the hood that had the fire start.
• 1:15:04
  They quenched the fire. The shelter in place was lifted
• 1:15:08
  at 11:30 AM and people were back to work by 1:00 PM.
• 1:15:12
  After the lunch break. That wow fire, which was in a
• 1:15:19
  uranium processing facility. Turned into in headlines, a
• 1:15:23
  uranium fire. That is a pet peeve, right?
• 1:15:28
  Because it was not a uranium fire, it was a fire in a
• 1:15:31
  building. The building had uranium
• 1:15:35
  processing in it. And they so they, you know,
• 1:15:37
  there were no rad leaks. They they checked air
• 1:15:41
  everywhere. They checked air around the damn
• 1:15:43
  fire sites. No, you're no radiation leaks.
• 1:15:47
  So all that is if anyone saying it's happening, it's bunk.
• 1:15:51
  It's absolutely not happening. Yeah, well, well he people are
• 1:15:56
  saying, I mean people people are saying lots of.
• 1:16:00
  Things about you know the whole you know, Ohio thing and it it
• 1:16:05
  might be satire, but I mean and it probably is, but I.
• 1:16:10
  These days you can't tell. I mean, I.
• 1:16:13
  I've seen people on Twitter saying that this is literally
• 1:16:16
  going to lead to like a zombie apocalypse.
• 1:16:19
  Which a. Probably isn't true. 100%
• 1:16:25
  confirmed. If that, you know, if that did
• 1:16:28
  happen, it would be it would be hilarious.
• 1:16:31
  You know how it's gonna turn into that?
• 1:16:33
  They're gonna show up at the polls.
• 1:16:36
  Without a brain and they're gonna.
• 1:16:39
  Press the box for the D next to it.
• 1:16:43
  And they're gonna say. Orange man bed.
• 1:16:49
  Yeah. Fucking zombies really.
• 1:16:55
  Yeah, it's a pet peeve is when you have so like I can, I can
• 1:16:59
  understand that a lay person is not going to have the best
• 1:17:01
  understanding of things when it comes to so for instance, this
• 1:17:05
  East Palestine disaster. Should happens where people
• 1:17:09
  aren't going to have the best understanding.
• 1:17:11
  For instance, I would have been more alarmed about the two tanks
• 1:17:14
  of oil that were allowed to escape into the river.
• 1:17:18
  That I would be about the chemicals that were very
• 1:17:21
  reactive that would go away quickly and then we're also
• 1:17:24
  taking care of promptly. The stuff that was allowed to
• 1:17:28
  just leave, that was what I was kind of annoyed with.
• 1:17:32
  But I also know that, you know, I have, I have, I have good
• 1:17:35
  knowledge about what's going to happen to all of those
• 1:17:37
  substances that left the area. A person who doesn't have that
• 1:17:40
  knowledge is going to look and see what the kind of worst stuff
• 1:17:44
  is there, and vinyl chloride is pretty nasty.
• 1:17:47
  So obviously the very reactive, very, very irritating to your
• 1:17:52
  your membranes carcinogen is gonna be something that you know
• 1:17:56
  and endocrine disruptor is going to be something that people are
• 1:17:59
  going to freak out about. I get it.
• 1:18:02
  And so that doesn't like bother me nearly as much as when you
• 1:18:06
  have like a fundamental basic logical.
• 1:18:09
  Fuck up like the uranium fire coming out of out of fire that
• 1:18:14
  involves uranium somewhere. You know, it's it's disturbingly
• 1:18:21
  um. Frequent that, that happens.
• 1:18:25
  So, you know, people freaking out about vinyl chloride.
• 1:18:28
  I get it. And then when people, you know,
• 1:18:30
  vote, it's a little irritating when someone changes vinyl
• 1:18:33
  chloride to polyvinyl chloride. When they're talking about it,
• 1:18:36
  it's like, you know, PVC is the pipes in your home.
• 1:18:39
  So that's if that stuff was carcinogenic monitor, that'd be
• 1:18:42
  really bad. Well, vinyl chloride is one of
• 1:18:46
  those things that, again, sounds sexy, right?
• 1:18:50
  Compared to say crude crude oil, you know?
• 1:18:57
  Or some or something like that that's doing more damage to the
• 1:19:02
  to the rivers. Well, sure.
• 1:19:05
  I mean, for instance, keep in mind they focused on the vinyl
• 1:19:08
  chloride because there are five tankers of it versus the other
• 1:19:11
  three monomers, each of which had was there.
• 1:19:13
  There was two tankers of the butyl, whatever it was, and
• 1:19:16
  there is one tanker of each of the other two.
• 1:19:19
  Yeah. And then there was the one
• 1:19:21
  tanker that had the solvent that was pretty commonly used for
• 1:19:25
  this stuff. Um.
• 1:19:28
  So, so those other tankers aren't mentioned, those other
• 1:19:32
  substances aren't really mentioned and it's say that the
• 1:19:35
  those other substances, the accolades are nastier than vinyl
• 1:19:39
  chloride. Um, as far as human contact
• 1:19:42
  goes. So.
• 1:19:46
  It's just was kind of the one, I think because people.
• 1:19:49
  Vaguely have an idea that vinyl chloride is somehow related
• 1:19:52
  because they they've heard that PVC is polyvinyl chloride.
• 1:19:55
  Maybe once in a life that would probably stuck out a little
• 1:19:58
  more. Um, but yeah, the the.
• 1:20:03
  The. Layperson misinterpreting more
• 1:20:08
  industry specific stuff I don't get as annoyed with so much as
• 1:20:11
  the. Very basic stuff being bungled
• 1:20:14
  because a journal doesn't have the ability to read straight.
• 1:20:19
  Well, that happens a lot on a lot of things.
• 1:20:22
  Very frequently things and misinterpreting it, just like
• 1:20:26
  reading the abstract to a paper and then misinterpreting it and
• 1:20:29
  then having and then putting out statements and media that
• 1:20:32
  completely are contradicted by the body of the paper.
• 1:20:36
  That's, you know, that's another one, you know, but.
• 1:20:39
  Something like something on the order of scientists discovers
• 1:20:42
  Moon made of cheese, and then maybe this the someone
• 1:20:45
  colloquially described the poor structure of a rock as being
• 1:20:48
  like Swiss cheese. Things like that, you know,
• 1:20:51
  things that silly happen. Um, not that scientists are
• 1:20:56
  immune to it. You have people like
• 1:20:59
  thunderfoot. Who has done this before?
• 1:21:04
  Red and abstract decided he was correct and then had he reread
• 1:21:08
  the abstract, slower might have recognized that he was
• 1:21:12
  fundamentally incorrect with what he was saying.
• 1:21:14
  I believe the one that I'm thinking of right now is the one
• 1:21:17
  where some research group came up with a material that was
• 1:21:22
  capable of pulling water out of the air.
• 1:21:25
  On the order of leaders per day. Uh, very cool device.
• 1:21:30
  Um. And Thunderfoot totally blew it
• 1:21:34
  on that that episode of his that again, he has like 70 or 80
• 1:21:39
  videos on solar roadways. Yeah, it's just I I've seen him
• 1:21:47
  go down like. Several rabbit holes on a lot of
• 1:21:51
  this side. Well, he was right about the
• 1:21:53
  solar roadways and probably about 10 videos in.
• 1:21:56
  He should have stopped because you're beating a dead horse.
• 1:22:01
  He just keeps going, yeah. But I mean, but that, but that's
• 1:22:07
  also kind of how that how some of the those science Youtubers
• 1:22:11
  are. I've noticed they latch on to
• 1:22:13
  one specific thing and then. So you need to watch more
• 1:22:19
  science Youtubers, not a sensationalist YouTuber like
• 1:22:24
  him. So there is a slew of fantastic
• 1:22:29
  chemistry Youtubers that are worth watching just because a
• 1:22:32
  lot of a lot of people will. You know, I've.
• 1:22:35
  Done a little bit of this, but usually my videos are just like
• 1:22:38
  an hour of me fucking around and then maybe I'll put some
• 1:22:40
  chiptunes over it. But other people will go through
• 1:22:44
  the reactions and show all the clean steps and so on.
• 1:22:46
  So Nile Reds the great one. Um, but there is a ton of them
• 1:22:50
  out there. I can rattle them off later for
• 1:22:54
  you if you want. Yeah.
• 1:22:58
  Um. Kind of shifting topics we've
• 1:23:03
  been hearing off and on about the the war in Ukraine possibly
• 1:23:08
  becoming like chemical warfare. Or maybe even nuclear?
• 1:23:14
  Do you think there's an evil validity to that at this point?
• 1:23:18
  And if so, how would that? So I don't think that.
• 1:23:24
  He's not gonna go chemical. So so so.
• 1:23:33
  A lot of chemical warfare is banned by Geneva Convention, you
• 1:23:37
  know, and signatory nations involved.
• 1:23:40
  Pretty much everybody judges combat by that standard at this
• 1:23:44
  point. That's, you know, again,
• 1:23:46
  regardless of whether or not your country is a signatory,
• 1:23:48
  people will judge a country by whether or not they have done
• 1:23:52
  something like use chemical weapons.
• 1:23:55
  Um. Which the US will happily do,
• 1:23:57
  because we're the US. Uh.
• 1:24:02
  So I don't think Putin is is going to.
• 1:24:05
  Go that route. We're not we so, so Ukraine is
• 1:24:11
  not so. So to begin with here, chemical,
• 1:24:14
  the way that chemical warfare kind of came about was during
• 1:24:17
  trench warfare. And so you we knew that people
• 1:24:21
  were going to be in a specific location.
• 1:24:23
  For a prolonged period of time so they were not mobile
• 1:24:26
  combatants. Um.
• 1:24:28
  And so we knew where they're going to be.
• 1:24:30
  We knew that they were in a position that was hard to get a
• 1:24:33
  person in place to cause damage. So we need to put something else
• 1:24:37
  there to cause damage instead. And we can't just like lob
• 1:24:40
  explosives in because that's not gonna work.
• 1:24:42
  So what we did instead was we dumped chlorine gas on the
• 1:24:45
  ground. And we allowed that to, because
• 1:24:48
  it sinks in air, it's heavier. It allowed that to go right over
• 1:24:51
  the edge of their trenches and fall in and choke them all to
• 1:24:53
  death. Um, so you know.
• 1:24:55
  So imagine dying by swallowing your own fluids because your
• 1:24:59
  lungs are effectively bleeding out from all the acid that's
• 1:25:04
  just developed inside them. Yeah, well, that's gonna go and
• 1:25:08
  but it was effective. And the point is that the
• 1:25:11
  chemical warfare relies on that kind of.
• 1:25:15
  That kind of asymmetric advantage in knowing where your
• 1:25:18
  enemy is and how vulnerable they are to the specific agent you're
• 1:25:21
  putting in. So that whole entire aspect of
• 1:25:25
  warfare escalated very quickly and ratcheted up so that we have
• 1:25:30
  very good countermeasures for most of the stuff that's used.
• 1:25:33
  And I mean, the technology that came back to the civilian
• 1:25:36
  population was fantastic. We have all these different
• 1:25:38
  pesticides now. Which are all basically nerve
• 1:25:41
  agents. Just by the way, you know
• 1:25:45
  organophosphates are horrible. Horrible for the human body.
• 1:25:51
  But again, so we don't have that necessarily in urban combat,
• 1:25:54
  which is what a lot of what's going on in Ukraine is.
• 1:25:59
  So for instance, in Iraq and Iran, not Iran, Iraq and
• 1:26:03
  Afghanistan, we had a lot of urban combat, more so than we
• 1:26:07
  had line combat or or field combat, if you will, or
• 1:26:11
  entrenched static positions. Where we had combat like that,
• 1:26:15
  it was it's a lot of getting in between buildings and finding.
• 1:26:20
  Finding your target and then taking it.
• 1:26:22
  I mean, if you have a a mass action moving forward of tanks
• 1:26:26
  and military personnel, that's still not trench warfare, which
• 1:26:29
  is where chemical warfare is most effective.
• 1:26:32
  So things like things like using titanium tetrachloride.
• 1:26:37
  So, so titanium four chloride to make a smoke wall is a naval
• 1:26:42
  strategy. And while that does create
• 1:26:44
  hydrochloric acid, the titanium dioxide making the smoke screens
• 1:26:48
  the more important part, and that's not considered chemical
• 1:26:51
  warfare just as an example, but we still use that.
• 1:26:54
  But something like white phosphorus in a warhead.
• 1:26:58
  It is considered cruel and unusual, and the way that it
• 1:27:01
  causes damage is pretty damn nasty.
• 1:27:05
  So it burns, burns its way into you, and it burns based on the
• 1:27:09
  fluid inside you, because water is a source for that fire.
• 1:27:14
  It's. It's an oxidizer.
• 1:27:17
  So that fire does not go out by putting water on it.
• 1:27:20
  Very nasty stuff. If you if you put water on it
• 1:27:24
  and it does go out, then you open it up to any oxygen again
• 1:27:27
  and it attaches right back on fire.
• 1:27:30
  So, and it sticks. Yeah, like napalm sticky.
• 1:27:36
  Yeah, well, so far, I mean, everything seems to feel.
• 1:27:40
  Everything in the Ukraine is mostly being done via drone.
• 1:27:45
  Warfare there, there's very little, you know.
• 1:27:49
  There's very little. I had, you know, close quarters
• 1:27:55
  combat, right? So the nuclear question.
• 1:28:01
  Putin is, yeah, pretty well strung up on the mutually
• 1:28:05
  assured destruction angle. When it comes to other nation
• 1:28:10
  states. I wouldn't put it past him to
• 1:28:13
  nuke something in Ukraine if he felt the need to.
• 1:28:17
  And he felt somehow that that was going to advance his
• 1:28:21
  strategy with Ukraine. He does not want to trigger
• 1:28:24
  NATO. Um, yeah, the the native, the
• 1:28:28
  the NATO. Issue on on Russia's, then it's
• 1:28:32
  like one of those ratcheting things again.
• 1:28:35
  Basically, Russia decides that it's going to be aggressive and
• 1:28:38
  then NATO extends its net a little further.
• 1:28:42
  And. Then Russia backs off and and
• 1:28:46
  gets upset about it for a while. Then Russia decides it's gonna
• 1:28:49
  move forward again, NATO says Fu.
• 1:28:52
  And then another country that's near Russia goes, hey, I want to
• 1:28:55
  be in NATO. And then Russia backs off and
• 1:28:59
  gets upset again. So basically Putin's a lot of
• 1:29:03
  this is Saber rattling, which is good, because if it wasn't Saber
• 1:29:06
  rattling, it would be a really bad day.
• 1:29:09
  And but again, we have an idiot in office who can't pronounce
• 1:29:13
  his own name. And so that is a problem that we
• 1:29:16
  have somebody who can pronounce his own name and is easily
• 1:29:18
  offended on the other side of the line.
• 1:29:21
  Well, yeah, well, and he, and already allies, doesn't seem to
• 1:29:26
  know what his name is half the time either.
• 1:29:29
  And just to clarify for the audience, I'm not necessarily
• 1:29:33
  saying I think there's going to be a nuclear war.
• 1:29:35
  The reason why I I asked the question is because.
• 1:29:40
  Just yesterday I saw that. You know, Zolensky is saying we
• 1:29:45
  might have to send American troops, you know, over to
• 1:29:50
  Ukraine now, which I think is a, which I think is a bad idea my
• 1:29:54
  myself personally. Popularly passed around on from
• 1:30:00
  Zelensky saying that we Americans are gonna have to send
• 1:30:02
  their sons and daughters to die. They are just like Ukrainians.
• 1:30:06
  That was actually cut short out of context.
• 1:30:08
  Now the context doesn't make it a lot better because this guy
• 1:30:11
  has been saying the same. The same kind of um.
• 1:30:16
  The ransom based speech, if you will, in the whole time, which
• 1:30:20
  is that it, it basically is prefaced in a manner of if the
• 1:30:24
  Ukraine falls and we lose. Thereafter.
• 1:30:30
  The US will have to send their sons and daughters to die in the
• 1:30:32
  Ukraine just like we have. So again, the context doesn't
• 1:30:36
  make it a whole lot better, but I 100% agree.
• 1:30:38
  Like if it was just him saying you guys gotta send your troops
• 1:30:41
  and I'll call them off, but I'd still say the same thing where
• 1:30:44
  he's threatening that like a mob boss.
• 1:30:47
  It's like, look, man, we gave you $100 billion, over $100
• 1:30:50
  billion, and you've squandered it in one year.
• 1:30:54
  Now the US didn't do a whole lot better in Iraq and Afghanistan.
• 1:30:59
  Over 20 years. Mind you.
• 1:31:03
  You know, in one year we spent more than that, sure, but we
• 1:31:06
  also were effective, whereas Ukraine is.
• 1:31:12
  Not. I mean it keep in mind they
• 1:31:15
  they've been able to hold kind of their own, but they've also
• 1:31:17
  been getting. Everything they've been using on
• 1:31:20
  the field effectively for free. The money that's going in is is
• 1:31:25
  basically returned right back in.
• 1:31:28
  This is where it's it's inflating our economy for a
• 1:31:30
  reason. A lot of that money stays in the
• 1:31:32
  US, paying for stuff we send over there to use in the war.
• 1:31:36
  And then some of that money is then cycled back through via
• 1:31:40
  Ukraine into the EU for NATO. Expenses.
• 1:31:45
  So weaponry, ammunition and training or just hardware?
• 1:31:52
  So we haven't sent any. We mean we have intelligence,
• 1:31:55
  assets on the ground. We definitely have.
• 1:31:57
  We saw this, for instance, why Biden was able to visit.
• 1:32:00
  In Ukraine, in the 1st place, we have intelligence assets on the
• 1:32:03
  ground. We have military assets on the
• 1:32:05
  ground for scouting and also for intelligence relaying and
• 1:32:08
  security services. And we've also got supply line.
• 1:32:12
  I'm guarantee that. We've got people in there that
• 1:32:14
  are gardening supply lines. And The funny thing is we talked
• 1:32:18
  about not having our troops on the ground, the vast majority of
• 1:32:20
  the people that we had sticking it out over there in Iraq and
• 1:32:23
  Afghanistan. Were mercenaries and those are
• 1:32:28
  not U.S. troops. So when we say we haven't sent
• 1:32:31
  any U.S. troops into Ukraine. That would not cover if someone
• 1:32:36
  had made an executive action, uh, secret or not, to send in
• 1:32:40
  mercenaries, that doesn't even have to be handled via the
• 1:32:43
  commander-in-chief. That's something that general
• 1:32:45
  can do. So.
• 1:32:48
  Well, it should be handled by the commander-in-chief because
• 1:32:50
  it involves foreign affairs and we already have a solid policy
• 1:32:54
  position on it. Then Commander in chief doesn't
• 1:32:57
  have to say anything. And it's kind of like, it's kind
• 1:33:00
  of like when the bill sits on the President's office for a
• 1:33:03
  whole week and then expires. That's a pocket veto.
• 1:33:06
  This is like a pocket military action is where you don't have.
• 1:33:10
  If you have a clear policy position, you just let your
• 1:33:12
  general do something. You know, you didn't.
• 1:33:16
  The president didn't command mercenaries to be sent in on
• 1:33:19
  contracts. It just happened.
• 1:33:22
  So. While I'm not saying we have a
• 1:33:26
  large amount of mercenaries in there, I bet you we've got
• 1:33:28
  people either geared up on the sidelines waiting for their
• 1:33:30
  return so that we just kind of suddenly appear there like we
• 1:33:33
  did with our rack. Yeah.
• 1:33:36
  Or or we've, you know, so we probably got people that are
• 1:33:38
  staged there ready to go, you know, again, like Saber
• 1:33:41
  rattling. Or we've got people that are,
• 1:33:43
  we've got assets already in place.
• 1:33:45
  And again, that's why Biden was able to land there safely.
• 1:33:47
  We already had security assets and intelligence assets.
• 1:33:51
  And again, like I said, it's probably our mercenaries that
• 1:33:54
  are probably covering supply lines from the NATO side of the
• 1:34:00
  situation out to where the front is.
• 1:34:03
  So that's probably why, why Putin hasn't been able to kind
• 1:34:07
  of double envelope on the the frontline and take another
• 1:34:10
  chunk. That's probably been because the
• 1:34:12
  sides have been guarded out pretty well in the supply lines
• 1:34:14
  are secured. I yeah, I'm well, let me just
• 1:34:21
  say this and hopefully the. It's going to become line of
• 1:34:25
  actual control. Oh, we're still good, yeah.
• 1:34:32
  OK. It's it's not like right actual
• 1:34:34
  control and not, not like so like China and India they have
• 1:34:39
  where their border dispute is, they have a de facto border
• 1:34:42
  called the line of actual control, the LAPD.
• 1:34:45
  And I bet you that something like that is going to develop
• 1:34:48
  around the Zaporizhia River, because that's basically where
• 1:34:52
  Putin's been stalled out. And he's gonna take those two
• 1:34:55
  new regions. Daneshian Luhansk is going to
• 1:34:58
  say these are now territories are independent, like with
• 1:35:02
  Crimea. And then soon enough he's going
• 1:35:04
  to do the same thing that he's basically doing with Belarus,
• 1:35:07
  where they're going to develop into the federation.
• 1:35:10
  So Russia's Empire is going to expand.
• 1:35:13
  So if you didn't know that's happening by what, 20-30 Belarus
• 1:35:17
  will become part of Russia? Yeah, yeah, I did.
• 1:35:21
  Same thing will happen with Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk.
• 1:35:32
  Yeah, hang on. I'm just, I'm just checking some
• 1:35:34
  of the comments here. Yeah, generally I.
• 1:35:39
  I mean the like I said the reason why about the whole
• 1:35:42
  nuclear angle is because we we keep hearing about that like
• 1:35:47
  from you know both sides of. Congress that you know this this
• 1:35:53
  thing. Could turn nuclear and so.
• 1:35:58
  But, you know, no, no one has really addressed in a.
• 1:36:01
  I guess in a scientific way before and.
• 1:36:06
  You know, in regards to what this would look.
• 1:36:09
  Look like policy wise so that's why.
• 1:36:12
  I brought it up. So nukes are incredibly
• 1:36:16
  devastating, so keep keep in mind for scale.
• 1:36:19
  The nukes we dropped in Japan. Or half a kiloton. 500 tons of
• 1:36:25
  TNT equivalent. The nukes we have on standby are
• 1:36:29
  like 3 or 4 megatons a pop. And some of them are much larger
• 1:36:34
  than that. Some of them are smaller, 50
• 1:36:36
  megaton being the biggest one ever dropped.
• 1:36:38
  Star bomba? That's a Russian nuke.
• 1:36:41
  But most of them are going to run you from somewhere between
• 1:36:44
  one and 10 megatons. So three or four megatons is is
• 1:36:46
  kind of what we use or have on standby anyway.
• 1:36:50
  Those bombs are. So the, the, the mega versus
• 1:36:56
  kilo thing should clear in there.
• 1:36:58
  They are thousands of times. Bigger in terms of their
• 1:37:04
  destructive capacity? Than the bombs we dropped on
• 1:37:09
  Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So the these so the the the
• 1:37:16
  standard nukes. Pretty darn bad.
• 1:37:19
  The H bombs, the thermonuclear bombs, those ones are the ones
• 1:37:22
  that are. Those are the big boys.
• 1:37:25
  Those are the bombs that are those like the world Enders that
• 1:37:29
  nobody wants to drop. Those were the kind of mutually
• 1:37:32
  assured destruction level stuff. So if someone was gonna drop a
• 1:37:36
  nuke to try and pull what we did with Japan at the end of World
• 1:37:39
  War Two. It would probably be somewhere
• 1:37:42
  in the Ukraine and that means since it's not in NATO
• 1:37:46
  territory. Then it's not going to trigger
• 1:37:51
  NATO response, so to speak. Um, so that's basically the only
• 1:37:57
  place I see Putin actually dropping a nuke.
• 1:37:59
  If he's gonna drop a nuke is somewhere in the Ukraine.
• 1:38:04
  And yeah, it would be still be. Roundly decried for that.
• 1:38:11
  That would be a very bad move on his part politically at home and
• 1:38:15
  that is why I don't see him going that route unless he can
• 1:38:19
  spin it in such a way that. Somehow bombing the Ukraine
• 1:38:24
  stops us from bombing Russia. Yeah, that's the thing you have
• 1:38:28
  to tap dance around. You can't fall into that trap
• 1:38:31
  and give him that carte blanche to move forward.
• 1:38:34
  But he also wants to keep in mind the Ukraine is again the
• 1:38:37
  bread basket of the area, right? You don't want to bomb.
• 1:38:42
  Why would I would I was just gonna bring.
• 1:38:45
  I was just gonna bring that up actually because I don't think,
• 1:38:51
  I don't think think that Putin is.
• 1:38:54
  You know, stupid. In that way I don't think he
• 1:38:56
  wants to use. No.
• 1:38:59
  You know, nukes either do those just because of.
• 1:39:03
  He knows it's a good retort to us rhetoric.
• 1:39:07
  Our stable, our Saber rattling can be quickly.
• 1:39:11
  Turn back on itself by saying ohh yeah I'll just drop a nuke.
• 1:39:16
  That gets a lot of people with hot heads sputtering over here
• 1:39:20
  well. Yeah.
• 1:39:22
  Well, well, I and a lot of people, you know at least in the
• 1:39:26
  press over here kind of, you know it's a, it's a fact, it's
• 1:39:30
  effective towards I guess wagging the dog that is our
• 1:39:34
  media because now you're seeing. You know sub headlines is
• 1:39:40
  nuclear war. Going to be a thing.
• 1:39:43
  I mean, here's the thing. I don't think.
• 1:39:46
  Aside from everything else if. If you know, if Putin were to
• 1:39:52
  use a nuke on Ukraine, like you said, Ukraine is the bread
• 1:39:56
  basket of the world, it would disrupt.
• 1:39:59
  You know what I've? You know, food supplies and
• 1:40:03
  commerce on almost international level, well, it's certainly
• 1:40:07
  Europe would be majorly affected, definitely the Eastern
• 1:40:10
  bloc. And the.
• 1:40:14
  So Putin wants to capture land for Russia he doesn't want to
• 1:40:18
  capture. Irradiated land for Russia?
• 1:40:21
  And he doesn't wanna salt the earth.
• 1:40:23
  And so that the people who he is, he's not a he's not petty in
• 1:40:26
  that way. Because the forward thinking
• 1:40:27
  there is eventually this Russian territory will be recaptured by
• 1:40:32
  Russia. That's their, that's the
• 1:40:34
  domestic opinion. That's the domestic mindset, is
• 1:40:38
  that this is Russian territory. Russia will claim it again for
• 1:40:41
  Russia because it was taken from Russia when it left.
• 1:40:46
  So they don't want to bomb it out of spite because the plan is
• 1:40:50
  still to get it back anyway. So.
• 1:40:53
  The the next level beyond that is if it's OK.
• 1:40:56
  If it's not to make a statement to end a war as a last resort
• 1:40:59
  like that, how else would you use nuclear weapons actively and
• 1:41:04
  you have to think OK. He's not trying to capture
• 1:41:07
  anywhere in the United States. It would have to be a point
• 1:41:10
  where the US is so destabilized that using a nuke on the US
• 1:41:13
  would. Not results in.
• 1:41:17
  A nuclear weapon being sent back in return.
• 1:41:21
  So if there is any point at which destabilization here?
• 1:41:26
  Cripples us in such a way that we cannot return fire.
• 1:41:30
  You know US falls into civil war, for example.
• 1:41:35
  You know if they know where our nuke sites are for the most
• 1:41:38
  part. You know, partly because we
• 1:41:40
  advertise them pretty strongly or before, and we haven't moved
• 1:41:42
  them. But then you also have
• 1:41:45
  intelligence resourcing assets like those sent directly from
• 1:41:48
  China floating across the USA. So right.
• 1:41:54
  Because we allow that like you know, it's, it's, it's kind of
• 1:41:58
  for one thing, it's also. It's a little more difficult to
• 1:42:02
  hide things like nuclear armaments as well, especially in
• 1:42:06
  the the day and age of satellites.
• 1:42:08
  So, well, we know they know where those are if they bombed
• 1:42:12
  those strategically again. So I mentioned earlier, you
• 1:42:15
  know, the the rods from God and the response from China being
• 1:42:18
  hypersonic missiles. Those are those are weapons that
• 1:42:22
  have no response time. Is the reason why they're so
• 1:42:26
  dangerous and I CBM has the response time of minutes.
• 1:42:31
  And that's enough time for countermeasures to be deployed a
• 1:42:35
  hypersonic missile. Is fast, um, in a way that an
• 1:42:41
  ICBM is not. So because it's an air breathing
• 1:42:46
  missile in our atmosphere, it does not extend out into space
• 1:42:49
  before coming back in. The the time we have to respond
• 1:42:54
  is from like 10s of minutes to less than 10 minutes.
• 1:43:01
  So that is not enough time for us to have a countermeasure in
• 1:43:04
  place that can stop something moving faster than the speed of
• 1:43:08
  sound. So an ICBM coming back in for
• 1:43:10
  reentry is moving subsonically. We can hit that with something
• 1:43:15
  else and blow it up before it has a chance to make ground
• 1:43:17
  contact. We can blow it up in space,
• 1:43:19
  basically. Or we can pull it up and upper
• 1:43:22
  atmosphere. We can stop that from causing a
• 1:43:24
  mass casualty event on the ground by landing.
• 1:43:28
  We cannot stop a hypersonic. Missile in the atmosphere coming
• 1:43:32
  in at a shallow angle. That's, you know, like Mach 3 or
• 1:43:36
  Mach 5. That is something that we just
• 1:43:38
  can't shoot down. Same thing like an orbital drop
• 1:43:41
  of a of any device. So rods from God concept is a
• 1:43:45
  large chunk of metal, basically big rod that gets dropped down
• 1:43:50
  and that has kinetic energy to it, whatever the orbital height
• 1:43:54
  is. Just that gravity difference
• 1:43:57
  right? Uh, so that that's that's an
• 1:44:01
  impressive amount of energy, but it's very concentrated.
• 1:44:04
  That is a pinpoint device, unless you use something like a
• 1:44:06
  flush or a flush. Those are area of denial devices
• 1:44:12
  or pinpoint devices. They are not.
• 1:44:14
  Um, they're not like mass destruction devices like a of
• 1:44:18
  nuclear warhead. So those can be used to do
• 1:44:20
  things like take out a nuclear silo.
• 1:44:23
  And because we don't acknowledge we have that.
• 1:44:26
  Well then we just say, oh, I don't know, if somebody got in
• 1:44:29
  there with a bomb when, you know, clearly there's a big
• 1:44:32
  chunk of steel or tungsten or titanium that blew through the
• 1:44:37
  Bay doors on nuclear silo. So again, that's that's akin to
• 1:44:41
  something like a bunker Buster. But you know, a little more
• 1:44:44
  powerful and is deployed from space.
• 1:44:46
  But the same rule applies there if you've got less than 10
• 1:44:50
  minutes to take that out. You know less than 5 minutes.
• 1:44:54
  So between seeing it. And then relaying that
• 1:44:58
  information to a person who would try to take it out.
• 1:45:01
  You've already passed your 5 minutes.
• 1:45:04
  Just by the way, like that's that that whole decision line,
• 1:45:08
  including all the actions people have to take in between.
• 1:45:10
  You're well past five minutes there.
• 1:45:12
  So. Saying applies to hypersonic
• 1:45:15
  missiles. We don't have another answer for
• 1:45:17
  hypersonic missiles yet. Those are gonna be the things
• 1:45:20
  that I would look at. Russia and China.
• 1:45:24
  Were kind of cozy before COVID. And then Russia got really
• 1:45:28
  pissed off at China because. Of the whole COVID thing.
• 1:45:33
  But now that there's this whole Ukraine issue with NATO.
• 1:45:38
  Putin's more likely to be willing to have make concessions
• 1:45:41
  with the Chinese government. To get his hands on stuff like
• 1:45:45
  hypersonic missile tech. Well, and and I would, I was
• 1:45:49
  reading just yesterday that I mean China does not.
• 1:45:55
  Royal want to? You know, they they don't want
• 1:46:00
  to see this conflict escalate any further, but they're not
• 1:46:05
  afraid to. You know, to to aid Russia if
• 1:46:10
  that will mean. Getting.
• 1:46:14
  This conflict over sooner for them.
• 1:46:18
  So China's happy with Putin? Pressing on America and NATO.
• 1:46:26
  Right now, because we are, you know, we we're our economy is
• 1:46:30
  not doing great even though like the indicators are crossed,
• 1:46:34
  which is bad. Uh, that says that we're headed
• 1:46:37
  towards a recession. Or we're we're in a recession,
• 1:46:40
  we're headed towards a depression if we don't.
• 1:46:42
  Pick up pace here. So we have to either we have to
• 1:46:46
  have high unemployment or or we have to accept that we're going
• 1:46:50
  to run over the edge and land right into a depression, which
• 1:46:53
  means the whole economy collapses, which is not good.
• 1:46:58
  Um, China is happy with that because there are major trading
• 1:47:01
  partner and that's how they can maintain a trade deficit.
• 1:47:04
  They're in a very powerful negotiating position right now.
• 1:47:08
  So they're not very keen on handing tech over to Putin
• 1:47:12
  unless he has some pretty big concession to hand them.
• 1:47:15
  For instance, the Russian economy is picking up really
• 1:47:18
  strong right now because it's in a wartime economy.
• 1:47:21
  Which is where, you know, you saw how the US turned around on
• 1:47:23
  a dime back in the 40s. Same things can right now going
• 1:47:26
  on in Russia. We also gave them the Petro
• 1:47:29
  ruble. By taking them out of the credit
• 1:47:32
  market, by kicking them off a swift, we did that.
• 1:47:36
  The Petro ruble and the Petro Yuan exist today because of what
• 1:47:40
  Biden did with Swift. So because we gave them that, we
• 1:47:45
  gave them that. It used to all be petrodollar
• 1:47:48
  because we gave them the Petro ruble, they're economy is very
• 1:47:51
  strong right now. And so they turn around and they
• 1:47:54
  manage to make it so that China is our major trading partner on
• 1:47:57
  the same parity as with the US. It's then a much easier position
• 1:48:04
  for China to turn around and hand them.
• 1:48:07
  You know, hand them assistance in the same way that we're
• 1:48:09
  handing assistance via NATO, TD, Ukraine.
• 1:48:13
  It's much easier for them to be in that position if they don't
• 1:48:16
  have to turn around and wait for the US to be upset about their
• 1:48:19
  trading negotiations with them. So that's that's the kind of,
• 1:48:23
  it's, it's a, it's an imbalanced playing field and it's kind of,
• 1:48:27
  yeah it's it's kind of got some some wobble to it so that if you
• 1:48:30
  roll one way you kind of get stuck there, but if you roll the
• 1:48:33
  other way then you might hop over a little bump and find
• 1:48:35
  yourself a World War three. But again, I mean, we shouldn't
• 1:48:39
  kill ourselves. We're basically in the proxy war
• 1:48:41
  version of that right now. Yeah, well.
• 1:48:46
  Yeah, well, we've we've been in a proxy war, you know.
• 1:48:51
  With that for for a while. And I mean they're they're all
• 1:48:53
  sorts of theories. Yeah.
• 1:48:58
  Well, and I mean they're all in, wasn't I, don't I and I can say
• 1:49:02
  this now, I'm not on on YouTube, but I don't necessarily think
• 1:49:06
  that Ukraine is. I there there plenty fishy here.
• 1:49:15
  Uh, you know too, like Russia is not good, but neither is.
• 1:49:19
  Is your clear right? If you look at the money
• 1:49:22
  laundering thing, the thing with Ukraine is.
• 1:49:26
  So, so one of the major issues with Ukraine and the the
• 1:49:30
  fighting with Putin. So again, as you said, Putin's
• 1:49:32
  not stupid. Um.
• 1:49:35
  He's he's not like the smartest politician in the world, but
• 1:49:38
  he's certainly not a retard. You know, he's better than, I'd
• 1:49:42
  say he's a better than average politician in terms of
• 1:49:44
  intelligence. The Nazis exist in Ukraine?
• 1:49:50
  Exactly. That's not stupid, right?
• 1:49:53
  He's not just former KGB, he's former KGB and he's still alive
• 1:49:57
  and he's the president of Ukraine.
• 1:50:01
  Still so like, he's not dying. In terms of politics, he's not
• 1:50:06
  the smartest politician. He's better than average.
• 1:50:10
  So. The Nazis do exist in Ukraine,
• 1:50:15
  Azov Battalion, all that. It's that's true.
• 1:50:17
  And The thing is that if when we, when we try to propagandize
• 1:50:21
  that way, especially after we were just recognizing it before
• 1:50:24
  the war started, the Hot War started.
• 1:50:27
  Um. That looks bad already.
• 1:50:30
  And he can point to that action and say, see, the West is
• 1:50:35
  backing Nazis, we have to densify this area.
• 1:50:39
  By not acknowledging that by funding that we've driven
• 1:50:44
  ourselves, we've backed ourselves into these corners.
• 1:50:47
  And then, you know, so this is where I think we have some
• 1:50:50
  pretty dumb people leading a charge in this, in this respect,
• 1:50:54
  we back ourselves into this corner rhetorically and by
• 1:50:57
  action on the front by putting money into the problem.
• 1:51:01
  And then we then say, how the hell did this happen, right?
• 1:51:07
  Now it's pretty clear you you've backed.
• 1:51:10
  The wrong player on the field. It's not like there's only two
• 1:51:13
  teams here. You got, you got a.
• 1:51:16
  Complex structure in the political spectrum, if you will,
• 1:51:20
  hanging out on the frontline. You didn't want to back the
• 1:51:24
  Nazis if you were going to be upset about them later, or
• 1:51:28
  you're upset about on before, or if that was the reason why the
• 1:51:30
  other team was saying they're coming in, that's just a really
• 1:51:34
  dumb position to put yourself in.
• 1:51:37
  But here we are. And so zolensky, by backing
• 1:51:40
  these assholes. Gives Putin the same like, and I
• 1:51:44
  get it, like he's using every resource he's got on the field.
• 1:51:47
  We didn't need to overtly be backing these people.
• 1:51:50
  There, there's, there are idiots, you know, across the
• 1:51:53
  Twitter space that have Azov battalion symbols they're
• 1:51:57
  holding up, you know, they got Azov flags and their profile
• 1:52:00
  pictures. That's a Nazi flag, right?
• 1:52:03
  Yeah. It's just like, what the fuck
• 1:52:04
  are you doing? You know, part of the language
• 1:52:08
  on that front. But it's like it's ridiculous.
• 1:52:11
  Ohh, no problem. We we drop.
• 1:52:13
  Yeah, it's it is fucking ridiculous.
• 1:52:15
  Yeah, we swear. Pretty.
• 1:52:17
  Pretty I didn't know exactly how far that was gonna go, and I see
• 1:52:22
  the parental advisory now. Yeah yeah there there there's a
• 1:52:27
  reason why why that's there so but I mean if if you if you
• 1:52:33
  heard the the podcast I I do weekly like it's is there's no
• 1:52:37
  shortage of swearing on that one.
• 1:52:39
  But I'm trying. I was trying to.
• 1:52:41
  You know, ease my way in here. I didn't want to just blow in
• 1:52:43
  with three or four EPS in a row, if you will.
• 1:52:45
  No, no, no. It's ridiculous that we do that.
• 1:52:49
  That we fund these people. Are you kidding?
• 1:52:51
  I get paid by those by the F bomb.
• 1:52:56
  I don't. I wish.
• 1:52:58
  I wish I had. That would be.
• 1:53:01
  That would be fucking fantastic, right?
• 1:53:04
  Yeah. My fucking swear jar funds me.
• 1:53:07
  There you go. Right.
• 1:53:08
  Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, this
• 1:53:13
  this whole this whole thing has just, you know been a a shit
• 1:53:19
  show. I'm not even sure why we're.
• 1:53:22
  I mean, I I. I have a guest buffer.
• 1:53:26
  As to why we're well, like, you know, unofficially unprovable
• 1:53:31
  without receipts, we kind of figure we got flagged down by
• 1:53:35
  certain parties, you know, or flagging a whole bunch of Sam's
• 1:53:39
  content on all kinds of platforms.
• 1:53:41
  He's over here trying to fight it, right.
• 1:53:43
  He's he's right now, all all of the the appeals himself, you
• 1:53:47
  know, nobody. Nobody's doing that for him.
• 1:53:49
  And then do you even know what to appeal because they don't
• 1:53:52
  really tell you necessarily what you did wrong.
• 1:53:56
  So that's the one, right? I saw him get that one, which
• 1:53:59
  was unfortunate. The.
• 1:54:01
  The the one where they tell you, they don't tell you what it is
• 1:54:03
  that they flag you for, and they just tell you your channel's
• 1:54:06
  gone. The the fake entitled podcast
• 1:54:09
  has been fortunate enough to have specific episodes flagged
• 1:54:13
  in such a way that we had a chance to kind of like take
• 1:54:15
  everything else down before it could get flagged more.
• 1:54:19
  But when they just when they hit you, like on five or six videos
• 1:54:22
  and all of them for the same thing, and all of them have, you
• 1:54:25
  know, just enough justification to get the automated system to
• 1:54:28
  to ban you, sometimes they just tell you the general reason,
• 1:54:32
  like the, you know, community guidelines or whatever the hell,
• 1:54:35
  and they just knock it off the radar.
• 1:54:37
  Yeah, which sucks. They're natural monopolies
• 1:54:41
  breaking up though, because of it.
• 1:54:44
  Like like the reason that we're able to do this here on Odyssey
• 1:54:47
  and talk about these heavy in and and there's been some heavy
• 1:54:51
  hitting topics in it. I've been sitting back listening
• 1:54:53
  right because I I think it's interesting.
• 1:54:55
  I think Sam is a great interviewer and that's why we we
• 1:54:59
  figure this is a great format for the show.
• 1:55:03
  But like we couldn't talk about what 50-60 seventy 8090% of the
• 1:55:08
  things that we talked about tonight in detail without
• 1:55:11
  hitting some kind of fucking misinformation disinformation.
• 1:55:15
  Bullshit. Um, and it's all based on like
• 1:55:19
  Wikipedia articles and show that passes me off to no end.
• 1:55:23
  For instance, the the COVID-19 thing where?
• 1:55:27
  Where Steve, Steve, Evan and I, we discussed this, you know,
• 1:55:31
  back in 21. Uh.
• 1:55:34
  Very like the zoonotic theory has been bullshit the whole
• 1:55:37
  time. And multiple institutions have,
• 1:55:41
  you know, medical, scientific and government institutions have
• 1:55:46
  have lost permanently. Fluked their public trust.
• 1:55:53
  Over a lie. A politically motivated lie.
• 1:55:56
  And it's in a disgusting perversion of science.
• 1:56:00
  In a in a lie that like didn't need to be like but we've been
• 1:56:03
  right the whole freaking time and that was one of the things
• 1:56:06
  we got we got flagged in on and it's it's you're seeing it now
• 1:56:10
  come out where you know you have another intelligence agency
• 1:56:12
  coming out going well maybe kinda yeah.
• 1:56:15
  I mean we'll call it new evidence like no man be the
• 1:56:20
  basis for the zoonotic theory that a Penguin and a bat were
• 1:56:23
  present at the same time in the the wet market never happened.
• 1:56:28
  So the entire theory, no matter how complex it is based on those
• 1:56:31
  animals, doesn't matter because the experiments.
• 1:56:35
  Did not reflect the fucking theory.
• 1:56:38
  It the theories bunk. It's garbage gone like that kind
• 1:56:42
  of thing, that kind of topic. Verboten on YouTube at the time.
• 1:56:46
  And it's it's even to bring up. You're talking to no end.
• 1:56:50
  Because yeah, because people that agree with the
• 1:56:52
  establishment on this, have they suffered the same fate a lot of
• 1:56:54
  times. Yeah.
• 1:56:55
  Just discussing work. Anything to do with COVID is
• 1:56:59
  completely verboten. And it's insane because, like,
• 1:57:01
  that's all we've been exposed to for a couple years at this
• 1:57:05
  point. You know, you should at least be
• 1:57:07
  able to talk about it with some intelligence and in depth.
• 1:57:10
  But of course you know, YouTube doesn't give a fuck and.
• 1:57:15
  These competitors that are cropping up that respect free
• 1:57:19
  speech and and look odyssey and rumble have rules and and people
• 1:57:23
  do get banned off of them so for the for the free speech
• 1:57:26
  extremists maybe they're not the perfect place but you know the
• 1:57:31
  alternative on the mainstream side of things is YouTube
• 1:57:35
  banning you for literally just saying COVID-19 yeah it's it's
• 1:57:39
  insane. The other the other thing thing
• 1:57:42
  too I I do want to point out is because whiskey.
• 1:57:46
  It has been commenting and and chat and usually when when I
• 1:57:51
  type I dictate, but because I'm on air, dictation isn't like my
• 1:57:57
  hot key doesn't work because I've already got my mic setting
• 1:58:01
  for streaming anyway. Uh, my my earlier comment in
• 1:58:06
  regards to. That was I was throwing shade at
• 1:58:11
  Vickers because he said he was gonna TuneIn and he didn't he
• 1:58:16
  and he's you know off watching I think I think WW runner head had
• 1:58:22
  a point right. And it's kind of something that
• 1:58:25
  we're addressing and we we weren't just coming out and like
• 1:58:27
  all this is kind of the new direction like in your face like
• 1:58:31
  that we were just we we got a good guest and we were going to
• 1:58:34
  play the idea going forward guys like let's just you know lift
• 1:58:39
  the curtain and be real. We're going to get good guests
• 1:58:41
  and have Sam interview him because Sam is a great
• 1:58:43
  interviewer and and that's kind of what I thought that would
• 1:58:49
  make for a good show, yeah. E drama stuff is is not even
• 1:58:55
  really like Sam's fucking wheelhouse, right?
• 1:58:58
  So like why, you know, if if if other people are doing that kind
• 1:59:02
  of content, that's great. But I think there's a lot of
• 1:59:04
  people that do content around a certain individual and it's kind
• 1:59:08
  of oversaturated. Materials here, which could be
• 1:59:13
  pretty funny for me to see happen, but I'm not saying you
• 1:59:16
  should. Well, the other thing too.
• 1:59:20
  The other thing too though is, is in regards to, you know, the
• 1:59:24
  wipers in America first like striking.
• 1:59:28
  I I don't know. I don't know that they that they
• 1:59:30
  start, that they that they were the ones.
• 1:59:33
  It would be Occam's razor that they would have done it right.
• 1:59:37
  Like obviously they're going to be the first person anybody
• 1:59:40
  thinks of that it was either groypers.
• 1:59:42
  Or people related with Ralph some people would say Kiwi
• 1:59:45
  farmers did it because they were making fun of you the other day
• 1:59:48
  but but quite frankly that what they were saying on Kiwi farms.
• 1:59:51
  I like I was I was showing you it because you don't like go and
• 1:59:55
  bother read that shit. But we were we were laughing
• 1:59:57
  about it because yeah OK yeah they they actually like one of
• 2:00:02
  them was like you know oh does he have such a such and it's
• 2:00:06
  like well kind of yeah like what are you stupid?
• 2:00:10
  Well the the other the other thing though too is not a lot of
• 2:00:14
  people might not know this is. I actually interviewed a long
• 2:00:21
  time ago uh Nick's former business partner James Alsop,
• 2:00:28
  and at the time, nobody knew. Nobody knew who like what James
• 2:00:34
  Alsop's actual like ideology was that.
• 2:00:38
  Was at the time. And then when I basically said I
• 2:00:42
  didn't wanna have anything to do with them because of, you know,
• 2:00:47
  because of Charlottesville, he got.
• 2:00:49
  He got asked mad and tried to, you know, and like tried to flag
• 2:00:55
  stuff years. Years ago at least I think.
• 2:00:58
  I think it was him. And then so like, my point being
• 2:01:02
  is it's just so it's so dumb to just flag people down over like
• 2:01:07
  drama. And that's why I think, like,
• 2:01:10
  the best step for us is to like, stay in the lane of what you do
• 2:01:14
  best, man. And that's what I'm striving
• 2:01:16
  for. But we, we also like, have some
• 2:01:19
  other fun stuff planned too, like, and I hope, I hope people
• 2:01:22
  stick around. Like, I just came aboard to try
• 2:01:25
  and help you make the show as good as possible, you know?
• 2:01:29
  Yeah well, all well and all I'm saying though is like it could
• 2:01:32
  have been because of some of the drama stuff but at the same time
• 2:01:35
  like I could just just unstruck because of youtubes.
• 2:01:39
  Ohh. It could have just been
• 2:01:41
  literally you said COVID-19 like we were saying like there's a
• 2:01:44
  lot of stuff you guys have have said some stuff that yeah was is
• 2:01:48
  not YouTube friendly over the years and maybe that just caught
• 2:01:51
  up with you too. It could be any number of
• 2:01:53
  things. We the best thing to do is going
• 2:01:57
  forward is not to ohh who fucking did.
• 2:02:00
  This or whatever and try and play witch hunter is just to
• 2:02:03
  fucking make the best content we can do and and lean into what
• 2:02:07
  you do best and not slap fight with retards, you know and hey,
• 2:02:12
  we can say retard now. Well, well, if you know, and
• 2:02:18
  that's that's the thing. Like I was talking to a friend
• 2:02:20
  today who. Like an eye of an eye off friend
• 2:02:25
  who's. He's Australian and he lives
• 2:02:28
  here. His gaming channel just got
• 2:02:31
  struck down because. He said.
• 2:02:34
  Cunt. In one of his kind gaming
• 2:02:38
  videos, he got pretty fun. Now now he now he's Australian
• 2:02:45
  so he didn't use count as in like.
• 2:02:48
  As like an insult towards a woman, he used can't because.
• 2:02:53
  But you because over there in Australia, every other word.
• 2:02:56
  Yeah, yeah, they use yeah, they used to come like we use asshole
• 2:03:00
  here. No.
• 2:03:05
  But yeah, I I think that's the most striking in Australian,
• 2:03:10
  man. For saying cunt is like striking
• 2:03:12
  him for breathing dude. That's what they do.
• 2:03:19
  They say like we think they drink fosters.
• 2:03:24
  Yeah, yeah, in and it's so petty and it's it's petty now like the
• 2:03:29
  the flagging wars and even pettier form of censorship.
• 2:03:32
  So like on the one level you're you know, talking about like we
• 2:03:36
  said things topics themselves that are verboten.
• 2:03:40
  And then on the next level it's it's amazing to me that there's
• 2:03:43
  a whole bunch of like like little like cretins that that
• 2:03:48
  thrive on nothing more than going and flagging people down
• 2:03:51
  who they're not even. All that and much disagreement
• 2:03:55
  with on like a large chunk of issues in the world, but they
• 2:03:59
  have nothing better to do than like play these games of
• 2:04:02
  flagging each other down, trying to get everybody taken down.
• 2:04:04
  It's like this mutually assured destruction bullshit and you hit
• 2:04:09
  the head there. But the beauty of it is that
• 2:04:13
  things like Odyssey, Rumble and all these other alternatives
• 2:04:15
  have sprung up in the wake of it.
• 2:04:19
  Why I even cozy, for what that's worth.
• 2:04:25
  SO11 topic that people have actually requested and I I
• 2:04:29
  wasn't going to announce this until next week because I have
• 2:04:33
  gotten some requests for people to basically give them the to
• 2:04:39
  basically give my opinion on the new CEO of YouTube and I might
• 2:04:44
  do that at some point, but honestly I have no idea who The
• 2:04:47
  Who the guy is so at this time I I.
• 2:04:51
  I'm assuming at this point that the guy who's taking over for
• 2:04:54
  Susan. Hey, I don't think anything is
• 2:04:57
  gonna change with YouTube. I think it's going to get worse
• 2:05:02
  if if anything. And and and and we talked about
• 2:05:05
  this right right after it happened.
• 2:05:07
  And you know my suggestion to you was don't even bother making
• 2:05:10
  another like ban evasion account because it's a waste of fucking
• 2:05:15
  time anyway as they piss their platform away to alternatives.
• 2:05:20
  Odyssey and Rumble are now like apps that are convenient and
• 2:05:24
  easy for people to use that really.
• 2:05:27
  The gap that was there that used to exist gets smaller and now
• 2:05:32
  you know Elon Musk is talking about implementing features like
• 2:05:34
  live streaming and and video content with monetization and
• 2:05:38
  super chats and all that kind of shit into Twitter.
• 2:05:41
  So that like that's an even easier competitor because it's
• 2:05:44
  been an app all along that people, most people have on
• 2:05:48
  their smartphones even if they don't fucking use it.
• 2:05:50
  They've kind of rolled out like super follows.
• 2:05:54
  But what I've noticed is it's mostly all the E thoughts that
• 2:05:58
  are. Using, of course.
• 2:06:00
  Yeah, the Super ball. But but like the the the rise of
• 2:06:07
  alternatives that have the features because the the thing
• 2:06:10
  about like a bit shoot why did bit shoot never become as kind
• 2:06:14
  of mainstream as rumble or odyssey are already becoming it
• 2:06:18
  it's because it didn't have the same functionality that YouTube
• 2:06:21
  had at that point it was almost like a mirror of an old branch
• 2:06:25
  of of YouTube right like YouTube 2009 well you know with with
• 2:06:29
  problems that that brings in all and and but you've also had a
• 2:06:33
  lot of problems with uploading and things like that.
• 2:06:36
  And they never had live streaming.
• 2:06:38
  But now that these things are fully featured, you can access
• 2:06:41
  them easily on your on your smartphone, even if you have a
• 2:06:43
  mainstream device like a like iOS or Android.
• 2:06:47
  So like. It makes it like YouTube cannot
• 2:06:51
  hold this monopoly forever with the draconian policies that they
• 2:06:56
  have. It's just not gonna happen.
• 2:06:57
  They'll they they operate at a loss anyway, you know what I
• 2:07:01
  mean? Yeah.
• 2:07:01
  And yeah. No.
• 2:07:06
  And thank you and thank you for bringing for bringing that up
• 2:07:09
  Max that they're operating at. At a loss because what I was
• 2:07:12
  explaining to a friend is the only reason why.
• 2:07:18
  YouTube can still operate even though they're operating at a
• 2:07:21
  loss is because they have never really had a competitor for all
• 2:07:27
  these years. They've basically been.
• 2:07:32
  I mean Twitch if you're a gamer somewhat, but basically YouTube
• 2:07:36
  has been on Twitch. Twitch wasn't competitor.
• 2:07:39
  Twitch wasn't a competitor because YouTube actually had to
• 2:07:42
  catch up and and get into the live streaming game.
• 2:07:45
  It wasn't in it the same way that Twitch was.
• 2:07:48
  And then it quickly surpassed it in a lot of ways because it had
• 2:07:52
  more again, it had that more function of like it's the right
• 2:07:56
  right but, but but right along the gamer niche, Twitch did hold
• 2:08:01
  its ground and stand on its own. But then again, both of the
• 2:08:05
  reason the Odyssey and Rumble exists is as simple as.
• 2:08:09
  Both of those platforms are draconian, and not only that,
• 2:08:14
  they're draconian policies of banning people for stupid shit,
• 2:08:17
  specifically in writing, targets right wing creators.
• 2:08:24
  And of course, there's gonna be people that can code and create
• 2:08:28
  these things on the right, and in particular, you know, with
• 2:08:31
  the open source market. Which, like I like odyssey, you
• 2:08:35
  know, from a technical level just because of the technology
• 2:08:38
  that it's built off. They're doing something
• 2:08:42
  different, trying to make it censorship resistant, which is
• 2:08:46
  the key, you know. Yeah.
• 2:08:49
  Well, I mean, and yeah, right now, you're right that the.
• 2:08:54
  I mean the big pole, it, the big pole is people who have gotten
• 2:08:57
  censored. But like, as I just said, my, my
• 2:09:00
  friend who is a gamer who actually, you know.
• 2:09:04
  Like I don't really know his political opinions all that well
• 2:09:07
  but he he is enormously right and even he got banned.
• 2:09:11
  So as YouTube continues to push push people away, I I think
• 2:09:16
  you're going to see Odyssey maybe not.
• 2:09:19
  So I think that that's the YouTube plan and I think that
• 2:09:22
  that's the plan of the new incoming CEO and that's why they
• 2:09:25
  brought them in because that's but they they've been moving in
• 2:09:28
  that direction for years. YouTube doesn't want the
• 2:09:30
  homegrown creators anymore. There's too much liability in
• 2:09:33
  it. They want safe.
• 2:09:35
  Corporate big time people to that.
• 2:09:38
  That's why they shove that into your feed on YouTube, whether
• 2:09:41
  you want it or not. Yeah, you.
• 2:09:43
  You've never watched fucking, you know, Jimmy Fallon in your
• 2:09:47
  fucking life, but there he is on your timeline like three times a
• 2:09:51
  week. Why does, why is that they there
• 2:09:54
  are some homegrown YouTube creators that will ascend in and
• 2:09:59
  stick with the plate. Obviously they can't get rid of
• 2:10:01
  PewDiePie. They can't get rid of like
• 2:10:03
  people that are kind of synonymous with the platform.
• 2:10:05
  Us that are sitting here with with just a handful of viewers
• 2:10:09
  at most of the time and then you get a couple 100 views on the
• 2:10:12
  you know the replay. Nobody gives a fuck about us and
• 2:10:17
  and we can't even fight for ourselves.
• 2:10:19
  I was surprised that it was funny my tweet and then your
• 2:10:24
  retweet of my tweet finally got fucking YouTube team YouTube's
• 2:10:29
  attention to tell you that they had no idea what the fuck was
• 2:10:34
  going on and go ahead and. Reapply and then we'll send you
• 2:10:38
  an e-mail saying fuck you, right, thanks.
• 2:10:41
  Thanks so much. You team YouTube golf.
• 2:10:44
  Clap for that. Which was done, which was done
• 2:10:50
  by a, which was done by a bot by the way, because because I I
• 2:10:57
  specifically said in the form that they have you sent send
• 2:11:01
  out. I'm like, you know, here's the
• 2:11:05
  you know, here, here, here are the specific ideas that got
• 2:11:08
  struck the first two times. And I would.
• 2:11:12
  I told them I I would like an actual reason as to why I got
• 2:11:17
  struck at at this point. I was asking them more why I got
• 2:11:21
  struck in the 1st place and more details on that.
• 2:11:26
  And if they could at least give me a reason.
• 2:11:29
  What are you, what are you supposed to be like?
• 2:11:32
  Imagine if you went into a courtroom, right?
• 2:11:34
  If a courtroom operated this way and and you just walk, you get,
• 2:11:38
  you get a subpoena and it says Sam Whitfield appear at court
• 2:11:41
  and you show up, right? And you're like, what?
• 2:11:43
  What is this about? And they're like, how do you
• 2:11:45
  plead? Uh uh, not guilty, I guess.
• 2:11:52
  Right. What is the charge?
• 2:11:54
  Ohh, you don't get to do the charge.
• 2:11:57
  How do you plead? It's so it is literally witch
• 2:12:00
  trial level shit. It's it's insane to me how
• 2:12:04
  commonplace it is. And yet you're right.
• 2:12:07
  Like normies. Normie normies especially.
• 2:12:10
  Like, Boomer normies know the fuck out of Facebook Jail and
• 2:12:14
  Twitter jail. Like.
• 2:12:16
  Boomers use those words all the time now because they get locked
• 2:12:20
  up for saying shit. That's like normal for a boomer
• 2:12:22
  to say. Like you know little phrases and
• 2:12:27
  or even I actually on on Facebook one time years ago I
• 2:12:31
  got a 24 hour timeout because I said tranny in the context of
• 2:12:36
  talking about a car transmission.
• 2:12:42
  Ohh, what you did that is Facebook fucks that off quite
• 2:12:47
  easily. Yes, it's just like that is
• 2:12:51
  hilarious actually. I never even thought that that
• 2:12:54
  would like I wasn't trying to be cute and get around.
• 2:12:57
  Like literally we were talking about my my friend's car had
• 2:13:01
  broken down and he was talking about he needed to replace the
• 2:13:06
  transmission and I asked how much for tranny you know.
• 2:13:12
  Hadn't you heard called. That was in like, 2013.
• 2:13:17
  I didn't like trainees. Weren't even a thing.
• 2:13:21
  Well, well it's suppose supposedly like Facebook is
• 2:13:26
  going to start allowing like. Nudity, but only for trans
• 2:13:31
  people. Is what I, which is what I've
• 2:13:35
  heard. I I've not, I've not seen
• 2:13:38
  anything to corroborate that, but that is, that would be a
• 2:13:41
  very small that was provision for trans.
• 2:13:45
  Creators or whatever the heck it was.
• 2:13:47
  So it was. It was for the people.
• 2:13:48
  Basically for trans. Instant thoughts.
• 2:13:52
  Great. I mean.
• 2:13:54
  To boil it down to that, uh, sex workers are being oppressed and
• 2:13:59
  therefore that's going to Trump. Common sense.
• 2:14:03
  Yeah, just yeah, just show fucking, you know, graphic
• 2:14:08
  pornography to children because sex workers are appreciated.
• 2:14:13
  Jesus. Yeah.
• 2:14:17
  And they and they wonder why people why people get mad if
• 2:14:21
  there's one, you know topic that that I I could bring up it.
• 2:14:26
  It was the new definition of genocide this week.
• 2:14:29
  Have you seen that one, Sam? That ohh no what what's what's
• 2:14:33
  the ohh yes what's this? Let me let me pull it up because
• 2:14:38
  it was absolutely fantastic. But in the meantime, like this
• 2:14:43
  is a general reminder so and I brought this up to the last
• 2:14:47
  podcast I did for with Evan and Steve.
• 2:14:52
  Most, most trannies are just normal people trying to get on
• 2:14:56
  with their fucking day. It's these loud assholes that
• 2:14:58
  fuck it up for everyone else. And it's the same thing anytime
• 2:15:02
  where you have multiple political ideologies butting
• 2:15:05
  heads. You're gonna find the loudest,
• 2:15:08
  loudest, dumbest people within each camp hanging out near the
• 2:15:12
  border between the two fighting. And that's exactly what's going
• 2:15:15
  on. Most people just want to get out
• 2:15:17
  of their fucking day and go home and do their own thing.
• 2:15:20
  My my Barber is a 65 year old gay guy.
• 2:15:25
  But he's also, he's also based as fuck, so I'll, you know, I'll
• 2:15:29
  put that in for him. Asking you out on a date.
• 2:15:34
  But in a. Back at back in June though,
• 2:15:39
  last year he he was I went, I went to see him and he was like,
• 2:15:43
  I am so sick of all this gay pride shit.
• 2:15:47
  Yeah, in in June. He's like, I just want to be
• 2:15:52
  left the fuck all alone. So I dropped.
• 2:15:58
  I dropped the tweet in every chance I saw that.
• 2:16:01
  Yes, it's from. It's from our buddy Dick
• 2:16:04
  Atkinson accent. And he's funny as fuck.
• 2:16:07
  He does some of the best memes in the world.
• 2:16:11
  And so this idiot, Aaron Reed. Yeah, one of those loud idiots.
• 2:16:16
  Just yeah, exactly one of those those people that has to have
• 2:16:19
  the it's I I like to call it like it's the race to the
• 2:16:22
  hottest take and it just like destroys these people.
• 2:16:26
  It's insane. Because they have to have the
• 2:16:29
  hottest take, but they also have to have it faster than everybody
• 2:16:31
  else. It's a it's like an edgelord
• 2:16:35
  pissing contest from all sides. Funny thing is, this mirrors.
• 2:16:39
  You know to to cut to the chase on this, but this mirrors.
• 2:16:43
  The same kind of, you know, the the same kind of genocide.
• 2:16:48
  Or, you know, the the lead into genocide and how we're in a
• 2:16:50
  genocide. From from white the more right
• 2:16:54
  wing extremists as well. Yeah, that's just funny.
• 2:16:59
  It's it's so absurd. So, so Aaron Reed says, remember
• 2:17:04
  that the whole point of genocide is complete eradication.
• 2:17:08
  Quote. You have to ban transgenderism
• 2:17:10
  entirely. It doesn't have to happen by
• 2:17:12
  murder, though it can. Genocide can be cultural,
• 2:17:16
  political. The unifying factor is steps
• 2:17:18
  taken to wipe out a group from public life.
• 2:17:22
  And. You know, OK.
• 2:17:27
  So apparently, um, you know, saying that women are women.
• 2:17:34
  Is actually Jenna, you're you're literally murdering them, and
• 2:17:38
  that's what you hear them say so often.
• 2:17:40
  It's just funny to watch somebody put it so, like,
• 2:17:42
  awkwardly. And stupidly.
• 2:17:46
  Yes. So if you have one that's
• 2:17:47
  particularly annoying, you ask them if you're a if trans women
• 2:17:52
  are women, then why do I have to call them trans women?
• 2:17:56
  And then, you know, you start this circular argument.
• 2:17:59
  Let them spin around it a few times.
• 2:18:02
  And you say OK. So why are there no trans
• 2:18:06
  females? And they start to get upset
• 2:18:10
  about that and we'll spin around a little bit and say, OK, well
• 2:18:12
  now I define for me what a woman is.
• 2:18:14
  When they start to tell you about it's a state of being,
• 2:18:16
  etcetera. Say, OK, fine for me what female
• 2:18:19
  is. And then later on you say OK.
• 2:18:22
  So what you're telling me is that a dog?
• 2:18:27
  Female dog. Does has, you know, could
• 2:18:30
  ostensibly have some sort of feelings on the matter?
• 2:18:34
  That might corroborate with whether or not that dog is is
• 2:18:38
  kind of a dog woman, if you will.
• 2:18:41
  And then we'll get wrapped up on the difference between humans
• 2:18:43
  and dogs. Yeah, like to see.
• 2:18:44
  Skipping ahead. At the end, you can wrap it up
• 2:18:49
  with the bow by saying so. How offended are you when I call
• 2:18:52
  you a bitch? And are you as offended as a
• 2:18:58
  woman would be? And that's where you kind of
• 2:19:00
  dropped the shoe. Heal or otherwise, fair enough.
• 2:19:05
  Apologies for fucking killing the punchline.
• 2:19:08
  No, that's fine. That was that was a fantastic
• 2:19:11
  lead on for it. The I mean the the whole thing
• 2:19:18
  of is too is have you guys like like cause I've only encountered
• 2:19:23
  one in real life in like modern day and one in like in like back
• 2:19:29
  in the day. Like have you guys encountered
• 2:19:31
  transgenders in real life? That many?
• 2:19:36
  Yeah, I, I, I, there, there was, there was one weird kid in high
• 2:19:41
  school who was like a cross dresser, but that was that was
• 2:19:47
  it. Absolutely.
• 2:19:49
  Processors. Yeah.
• 2:19:51
  Well, yeah. Well, I ran into one at like a
• 2:19:54
  store, and it was just really awkward.
• 2:19:57
  And, like, I'm polite, you know? Like, look, man, everybody's
• 2:20:00
  just trying to live. Like, I don't hate these people.
• 2:20:02
  That's the mistake that they make, obviously, right?
• 2:20:05
  They think everybody hates them or whatever.
• 2:20:07
  They're like, paranoid. Well, like like you just you're
• 2:20:11
  just worried that they're gonna, they're gonna pull some of this
• 2:20:13
  bullshit, right? And this, this particular, this
• 2:20:18
  particular guy didn't pull any of that bullshit, although it
• 2:20:22
  did ask me to call it a girl. And I obliged for the sake of a
• 2:20:26
  conversation at a store. So I didn't get into a fucking
• 2:20:30
  big deal. But that, like, that's exactly
• 2:20:33
  why people don't want to be around them, is because you
• 2:20:36
  don't want to walk on egg shells and be afraid of being escorted
• 2:20:39
  out of the fucking. Weed shop.
• 2:20:40
  You know what I'm saying? I I actually I actually brought
• 2:20:44
  I I brought this up to uh to a liberal that I've now I in my
• 2:20:51
  argument was. Look, we don't.
• 2:20:54
  We don't. We don't hate transgender
• 2:20:57
  people. We're confused.
• 2:20:59
  We're confused by them because the rules change like every 10
• 2:21:04
  minutes? Yeah, yeah.
• 2:21:06
  What, their whim? Because they're narcissists?
• 2:21:09
  And and. And like, I don't know, every
• 2:21:12
  time I see one of them, they're always.
• 2:21:15
  Not embodying like like what I think of as a woman.
• 2:21:19
  They're embodying what's like a parody of a woman.
• 2:21:23
  Like, it's like, it's like bimbofication of women, right?
• 2:21:27
  This idea that there are these, like, dumb hoes all the time.
• 2:21:32
  And look, a lot of women are dumb hoes.
• 2:21:34
  Let's be real. A lot of them, a lot of them end
• 2:21:37
  up being autogynephilia X, and they're not.
• 2:21:40
  It's a paraphilia. It's not a it's a sexual thing.
• 2:21:44
  What? Yeah.
• 2:21:45
  OK. That that's true too.
• 2:21:47
  So. So.
• 2:21:50
  Imagine if you will, person who. Is attracted to the idea of
• 2:21:55
  themselves as a different gender and then proceeds to ohh yeah
• 2:22:01
  yeah proceeds to torture their body into into that parity of
• 2:22:04
  reality. Yeah, for their own sexual
• 2:22:07
  gratification. What?
• 2:22:08
  What really gets them off right is getting you to fucking bend
• 2:22:12
  to their will, too. Like all of all of reality has
• 2:22:17
  to acknowledge how hot I am as a girl.
• 2:22:20
  Some people genuinely have. Some people genuinely have a
• 2:22:24
  severe gender dysphoria and dysmorphia that manifests so
• 2:22:28
  strongly that they need to socially transition.
• 2:22:32
  And you know, I get it. And for for all the large
• 2:22:35
  majority of people, I don't wanna pay, yes, but but I don't
• 2:22:42
  care. Like, if like the same way that
• 2:22:45
  someone comes up to me and I, you know, and and I find out
• 2:22:47
  what their name is, if I'm talking to someone else, I'm not
• 2:22:49
  gonna call them that dumb faggot.
• 2:22:52
  You know, I'm not just gonna lead down that road.
• 2:22:54
  I'm. I'll, I'll, I'll use their name.
• 2:22:56
  You know their preferred name, if you will.
• 2:23:00
  No, no. It's because it's because they
• 2:23:02
  don't. Because they don't come off base
• 2:23:04
  by showing up, showing me some pendant on their wrist that has
• 2:23:06
  their name and then shrieking at me that this is what I need to
• 2:23:09
  call them by. I was like talking to my wife
• 2:23:12
  about this and you know what I said?
• 2:23:13
  It's like I'm all about live and let live.
• 2:23:16
  That's the fucking problem, is they don't, right?
• 2:23:20
  Like, like, they step on. Yeah.
• 2:23:22
  In particular online and getting people banned.
• 2:23:25
  I know. Like, that's not a group that we
• 2:23:27
  specifically were naming is as a suspect.
• 2:23:30
  Them in getting your YouTube channel because I don't think
• 2:23:32
  they were one, but they certainly have gotten a number
• 2:23:35
  of people I know is YouTube Twitters and everything else
• 2:23:39
  taken down simply because our our suspect on the the Faith
• 2:23:44
  Untitled podcast YouTube issues. Yeah, but definitely.
• 2:23:49
  Yeah, I mean, it's, it's fucking awful.
• 2:23:52
  And but it's because like, they really don't have an argument
• 2:23:55
  except to like La La la you're being mean.
• 2:23:58
  Ban them. That's it.
• 2:24:00
  That's all they get. Well.
• 2:24:02
  Well, so it's like. Build this fucking mean itself.
• 2:24:06
  Like the universe itself is sometimes fucking cruel, bro.
• 2:24:10
  Get over it. Well, well, these what?
• 2:24:14
  Well, OK, so, so there are two that I'm really like.
• 2:24:19
  Confused. Confused on as to what the
• 2:24:22
  meaning of it and I I mean this partially rhetorical, but also
• 2:24:26
  not really so when I when I was? When I was in college or
• 2:24:30
  finishing up college. That was when the term non
• 2:24:34
  binary started becoming a thing and all these lived would start,
• 2:24:41
  all these lefties would start using it, and I.
• 2:24:45
  I'm like. I'm like, what is nonbinary?
• 2:24:50
  And they're like ohh it's whatever gender you decide.
• 2:24:52
  I'm like ohh so so you can basically change your gender on
• 2:24:56
  a whim. Well, no, but.
• 2:25:01
  Yes, but yes. Yes.
• 2:25:04
  And then you ever wondering if you're ever wondering what the
• 2:25:07
  fuck an NBA is? It's non binary.
• 2:25:10
  It's literally 2 letters. It's just that they don't want
• 2:25:12
  to spell that out because somehow that has something to do
• 2:25:15
  with race too. Like the the letters are already
• 2:25:18
  claimed by somebody else. Yeah, because they have all this
• 2:25:23
  stupid hierarchies of rules upon rules that they keep adding to
• 2:25:27
  and subtracting from and turning on and nobody wants to and and
• 2:25:31
  you're seeing a turn against it in in kind of more of a
• 2:25:34
  mainstream sense. I think lately that the Harry
• 2:25:38
  Potter thing, as silly as it is, is a massive proof of that.
• 2:25:42
  It becomes like one of the top selling games of all time.
• 2:25:46
  Because everybody saw the tantrums that people were
• 2:25:48
  throwing were stupid. And also it was a property in a
• 2:25:53
  in a game that people were really excited for because it
• 2:25:56
  was something they grew up with. And they were just like, you
• 2:25:58
  know what, fuck you and your hissy fit.
• 2:26:00
  Nobody cares. Shut up.
• 2:26:02
  Well, yeah, and. And well, what people?
• 2:26:06
  What people fail to I I bought brought up there Potter thing
• 2:26:10
  because I'm not. I'm not the biggest Harry Potter
• 2:26:13
  fan but. Like I will.
• 2:26:17
  I will admit that that is one thing where I'm glad a lot of
• 2:26:21
  the fans finally like, drew a line in the sand.
• 2:26:25
  And because, like, JK Rowling is still, it's not like she's a
• 2:26:29
  super right winger. She's she's liberal as fuck.
• 2:26:34
  But I think most of them, actually, I think most of them
• 2:26:38
  are because even the lefties enjoy it in secret, right?
• 2:26:41
  They're playing the game and then hiding.
• 2:26:43
  They they have guides on Kotaku, how to hide your achievements
• 2:26:47
  from fucking. Harry Potter, yeah, because
• 2:26:49
  they're actually playing the game, so they're all a bunch of
• 2:26:52
  hypocrites. Ohh my but if you're a Harry
• 2:26:54
  Potter, I'm not a Harry Potter fan either.
• 2:26:56
  I didn't grow up with that shit. I was way too old when it came
• 2:27:00
  out. It was for like way younger
• 2:27:02
  audience than myself. However, my wife is.
• 2:27:05
  I know a little bit about it, and I know one thing is that
• 2:27:08
  people into Harry Potter, this was their dream video game.
• 2:27:12
  You got your own story with your own fucking professors, you made
• 2:27:15
  your own fucking character and it's in this fully. 3D open
• 2:27:20
  world where you can walk around doing Harry Potter shit.
• 2:27:22
  It's like their wet dream come true.
• 2:27:24
  And just because a couple of trainees have a hissy fit isn't
• 2:27:27
  gonna stop them from playing what for a lot of them is their
• 2:27:30
  most dreamed of game of all time.
• 2:27:33
  You got to be retarded if you think that was going to work.
• 2:27:36
  Come on. You know what though, too like
• 2:27:38
  I've I've played the game and like I said, I'm not.
• 2:27:43
  I'm not a Harry Potter fan. I don't really know much of the
• 2:27:46
  lore, but but it is an engaging game.
• 2:27:50
  I've enjoyed playing it as someone who.
• 2:27:54
  Has no clue really what I mean. I know a little bit of what.
• 2:28:00
  Of what is in there. But it's a it's a well put
• 2:28:03
  together gang in all reality. Yeah.
• 2:28:06
  And by people that clearly cared about the the property that they
• 2:28:10
  were working with. There was a original director of
• 2:28:13
  the game that actually stepped down because they already had
• 2:28:16
  started bitching about it then because he had liked some anti
• 2:28:20
  SJW YouTube videos like 10 years ago or some shit.
• 2:28:25
  And they were like he has to be removed.
• 2:28:27
  So he stepped down because he didn't want to see the project
• 2:28:29
  destroyed. I don't know if you knew that,
• 2:28:32
  but like, yeah, that was that was a big deal.
• 2:28:37
  Yeah, I I do remember. Uh, you know, reading something
• 2:28:41
  about that. Well, I mean, even even in my
• 2:28:44
  case, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm a disability.
• 2:28:46
  I call myself, I call myself the base crippled man because in
• 2:28:51
  part because I got tired of hearing the term differently
• 2:28:56
  abled, which is what we're supposed to say.
• 2:28:59
  Now what the fuck does that? Well, because, OK, because you
• 2:29:05
  can't be. Because you can't be disabled,
• 2:29:09
  right? Because that means you're not
• 2:29:10
  able to at all. You have no ables.
• 2:29:13
  So we got to give you some ables, right?
• 2:29:15
  But they're different ables. That is such condescending cat
• 2:29:18
  lady, horse shit. Well well not well not just that
• 2:29:23
  but if. But if you look at it logically,
• 2:29:25
  it's like well we're all, we're all fucking differently abled
• 2:29:29
  right? Like Craig's actually.
• 2:29:34
  This will come back on you and directly, you know the whole
• 2:29:36
  what is a woman thing? There are people out there who
• 2:29:38
  are trans abled. Well, what do you know about
• 2:29:42
  those people, those nutters? Yeah, people who who break their
• 2:29:47
  own fucking legs or they go and get amputations, perfectly
• 2:29:50
  healthy tissue because they're so fucked in the head that they
• 2:29:54
  think that'll make them feel better.
• 2:29:55
  And this is what I'm saying, why do we encourage this shit at
• 2:29:58
  all? Actually, I actually did in
• 2:30:02
  town. I actually did like encounter
• 2:30:04
  one of those people once and I just got lost.
• 2:30:08
  I I just got lost my temper because I'm like.
• 2:30:12
  So let me get this straight. I basically been disabled since
• 2:30:16
  birth? And I've had to deal with having
• 2:30:19
  cerebral palsy all my life. How many hands I was.
• 2:30:25
  I wonder how many of them would would would want your
• 2:30:29
  disability, right. They they want to cut their
• 2:30:31
  fucking finger off or whatever that they can comfortably live
• 2:30:33
  with. But but you don't see them
• 2:30:35
  lining up to fucking get that do you?
• 2:30:37
  Well well they they always they always say.
• 2:30:41
  They always say stuff like well you know, you have a pretty cool
• 2:30:45
  wheelchair and it it just be it must be nice.
• 2:30:48
  Just. Like sitting sitting on yeah
• 2:30:51
  man. Like Chrome hubcaps like works
• 2:30:54
  like they they have no idea. I mean, and I mean I'm not
• 2:30:59
  saying that it sucks completely all the time like.
• 2:31:03
  But like. It's what I have to deal with.
• 2:31:06
  People there would be nice to run to the to run to the store,
• 2:31:10
  right? Yeah.
• 2:31:11
  You fucking deal with what you got, you know, you get your nice
• 2:31:14
  wheelchair and you keep it fucking clean, right?
• 2:31:19
  Here, and you got it. I can't tell you how many people
• 2:31:21
  have pulled the fucking scroll joke on me.
• 2:31:23
  It's like, yeah, that's not how it works, but that's hilarious
• 2:31:26
  man. Well, it would be nice to be
• 2:31:29
  able to piss without standing up without having to use a grab bar
• 2:31:34
  and shit like. Like that.
• 2:31:36
  And most of the time I just sit down, you know, it.
• 2:31:41
  It's shit like that. But you know.
• 2:31:44
  It's like these people don't, these people don't think about
• 2:31:47
  that and then they're like, oh, I want to be, I want to be trans
• 2:31:52
  abled and then they get trans abled and then they're like, Oh
• 2:31:55
  my God, this was mistake. And it's like, yeah, no.
• 2:31:59
  Well it's you know one of the seeks misery the fun one out of
• 2:32:03
  all this is the trans men and not not just the trans men
• 2:32:07
  because that is a large there's a sadly a it's the minority of
• 2:32:12
  the trans population are trans men.
• 2:32:14
  So women. And the ones that pass are the.
• 2:32:21
  The ones that get fully red pilled, if you will, on what it
• 2:32:25
  means to be a man. And it's a fantastic realization
• 2:32:30
  for them because they realize how much different it is.
• 2:32:34
  To what being a woman is. Yeah.
• 2:32:37
  And there was a lot of them don't like it.
• 2:32:39
  A lot of them like a lot of them want the the.
• 2:32:44
  Advantages, you know, and there's there's advantages and
• 2:32:47
  disadvantages in both sexes, if you will.
• 2:32:49
  But then there, there they wanna go, they want, they want the
• 2:32:52
  best of both worlds. And they didn't realize what
• 2:32:54
  they be giving up. Yeah, there's a famous 80s film,
• 2:32:57
  literally, that's that's basically that.
• 2:33:00
  Like, she just dresses up and binds her.
• 2:33:02
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she just has no.
• 2:33:04
  And she goes to a group of. One of those therapy groups for
• 2:33:10
  men in just realizes how fucking horrifying.
• 2:33:14
  Things can be for some on occasion, in that the support
• 2:33:18
  network is entirely different. You know the language entirely
• 2:33:21
  different. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:33:25
  Yeah, like like you, you might have your family and and usually
• 2:33:28
  your families there. For most men, to some degree
• 2:33:31
  they'll have family that's there.
• 2:33:32
  But beyond that, you you really got to earn a support circle as
• 2:33:38
  a man, you know, you you don't just get handed that shit.
• 2:33:42
  Yeah. Yeah, no.
• 2:33:45
  It's the biggest complaint that she had was how lonely she felt.
• 2:33:50
  You don't think the same? Like you're, you're you're.
• 2:33:55
  Your, you know, the nature versus nurture on this.
• 2:33:57
  Like there isn't like a male and female brain in that respect,
• 2:34:00
  even though they're kind of is, but there isn't like in the way
• 2:34:02
  it's wired necessarily. But the nurture side of that
• 2:34:07
  comes in pretty heavy, like if you're if you're raised and
• 2:34:10
  socialized as a girl. Like the the fact of the matter
• 2:34:15
  is that this the difference that there is between the male and
• 2:34:18
  female brain. The limited amount that there is
• 2:34:20
  a difference is it heavily plays into the ability of the nature
• 2:34:24
  side of things versus nurture to shape the way the brain works
• 2:34:28
  the. Me, the Doctor money study,
• 2:34:33
  horror show, and torture fest, if you will, pretty well
• 2:34:37
  conclusively showed the reverse on that.
• 2:34:38
  But a male brain. Really does not like being
• 2:34:41
  socialized into being a girl. Then again, there was a lot of
• 2:34:44
  torture that went on with that, so kind of a bad study.
• 2:34:49
  Well, there's also like inherent experience, right?
• 2:34:52
  I I was talking about this again to my wife recently where I said
• 2:34:56
  like, well, like one thing you could never know because you
• 2:34:59
  could never experience it is a is holding your Dick while you
• 2:35:03
  take a piss. Right.
• 2:35:05
  Like, it's a simple thing. It's a silly thing, right?
• 2:35:08
  But like, hey, no, that's pretty straightforward.
• 2:35:11
  Sometimes that's like, sometimes it feels pretty fucking good
• 2:35:15
  when you had to take a piss. Really bad.
• 2:35:17
  Well, yeah. The reason why is because all
• 2:35:19
  that urine runs right past your prostate.
• 2:35:22
  This is another sensation that women are not ever going to
• 2:35:24
  have. But another thing that's the
• 2:35:27
  important side of that, I mean you you mentioned it as as being
• 2:35:30
  largely about your hand being involved there, but the
• 2:35:32
  sensation. That you feel from the other
• 2:35:35
  side of that connection. Is never going to be a sensation
• 2:35:38
  that a trans man will feel because that skin is not
• 2:35:41
  innervated in a way that is connected back to the CNS
• 2:35:44
  anymore, right? It's just, it's just a it's just
• 2:35:48
  ripped off their forearm. It's slopped on, rolled up piece
• 2:35:52
  of skin. It's fucking.
• 2:35:55
  They'll be dead tissue as far as the brain is concerned.
• 2:35:58
  Yeah, it's, it's a very large button ring.
• 2:36:01
  It treats it as scar tissue mostly.
• 2:36:03
  That's why they have to keep lubricating the shades.
• 2:36:05
  Fucking gross, you know? Yeah, well, I wouldn't wish that
• 2:36:09
  on my worst enemy, honestly. I would, I would say you should
• 2:36:12
  probably just use some duct tape and a dildo would get you a lot
• 2:36:15
  further. I mean.
• 2:36:19
  I mean, that was meant to it's. It's fucking sad that the that
• 2:36:25
  the trans community basically killed off tomboys for this
• 2:36:30
  upcoming. Yeah, they're all identified as
• 2:36:34
  trends that you've. Yeah.
• 2:36:39
  Top one. That's one that aggravates my
• 2:36:41
  wife because she was a tomboy, you know.
• 2:36:44
  You know, they start off and kids, they start off in boys
• 2:36:46
  khakis and then they graduate into being.
• 2:36:49
  You know, minus the fact that it was Megan Fox.
• 2:36:51
  Megan Fox and the Transformer series.
• 2:36:54
  You know, bent over underneath the car hood.
• 2:36:57
  It's like, well, it's clearly a woman now.
• 2:37:00
  Yes, there's not a lot of tomboy left.
• 2:37:04
  Yeah, my wife didn't get into like girly stuff until literally
• 2:37:08
  I was already with her. So she was in her 20s.
• 2:37:10
  She was always into like black goth, and when she was young she
• 2:37:15
  was a tomboy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah no.
• 2:37:19
  I teach their own it all and it it's.
• 2:37:21
  I just. I love the the entire premise of
• 2:37:23
  the goth. I'm unique and different, just
• 2:37:27
  like every other goth. Well, she wasn't she anyway.
• 2:37:32
  She wasn't. She wasn't super goth, you know
• 2:37:34
  what I mean? But like, she wasn't like, doing
• 2:37:37
  makeup and shit like that. But yeah.
• 2:37:40
  More like I understand she she was a hot topic.
• 2:37:44
  God no. A couple of friends growing up
• 2:37:48
  who are who are into that scene and I gave them the exact same
• 2:37:52
  shit and it was hilarious. That's that's actually one thing
• 2:37:56
  that goth kids could do, which was take a fucking joke.
• 2:37:59
  No, we're worse than that. We're worse than that.
• 2:38:01
  We're juggalos. What are you talking about?
• 2:38:05
  We went. We went to the gathering
• 2:38:07
  together in 2009. It was the craziest fucking
• 2:38:10
  weekend you'd ever experienced. I wouldn't take it back for
• 2:38:13
  anything. Anybody wants to hate on me for
• 2:38:15
  that, I don't care. Go fuck yourself.
• 2:38:17
  It's a blast, man. I saw Gwar at 3:00 AM drunk as
• 2:38:21
  fuck. Spoken like a 3 foot tube.
• 2:38:24
  Yeah well these war. War is not fucking hell.
• 2:38:31
  The Juggalo band. I'm not going to remember it
• 2:38:33
  because I don't have to fucking keep these things in my head.
• 2:38:36
  Well, you Insane Clown Posse. Yeah, that's because the
• 2:38:40
  gathering is just like get all these really cool like
• 2:38:43
  underground and and gimmicky bands who will like whoever.
• 2:38:47
  Because Ice Cube played it like the year I saw it, it was like a
• 2:38:52
  crazy lineup is like a whole bunch of mainstream people.
• 2:38:55
  Fucking Wu Tang clan. I don't know, head PE was there.
• 2:39:00
  Bunch of rock bands. It's just this big ass festival
• 2:39:03
  that they throw and then ICP headlines it.
• 2:39:05
  Juggalos are crazy. It's a crazy time.
• 2:39:10
  Like, hey, it's a hell of a fucking party.
• 2:39:13
  It's in the woods, the police aren't allowed in, there's drugs
• 2:39:16
  and alcohol everywhere. There's a carnival, a literal
• 2:39:20
  full carnival, and you can go on all the rides for free. 24 hours
• 2:39:26
  a day. And it's just a crazy big party.
• 2:39:33
  So sue me if everybody wants to make fun of me for that.
• 2:39:36
  I don't care. It was a blast.
• 2:39:40
  Yeah, it's. I smoked a blunt with vanilla
• 2:39:44
  ice. OK, come on.
• 2:39:47
  Come on. Hey then you you can't go.
• 2:39:50
  You can't go wrong with that. I I also love that.
• 2:39:54
  Like, Ice Cube is like sounding off on.
• 2:39:59
  The vaccine, well, this was a few months ago actually, but
• 2:40:04
  yeah. Ice cube, I guess, was sounding
• 2:40:07
  off on the on the vaccine. Ice cubes fairly based for like
• 2:40:12
  a lefty guy like because like ice cubes, primary concerns like
• 2:40:17
  when he talks about political stuff is basically.
• 2:40:20
  Making the black community a better place to live.
• 2:40:23
  So that kind of kind of cuts across party lines a lot of
• 2:40:26
  time. And he he does tend to talk a
• 2:40:28
  lot of common sense about things.
• 2:40:30
  So yeah, he he's got some pretty good takes sometimes.
• 2:40:34
  And and then what did I talked about this on Monday's podcast?
• 2:40:39
  What did you guys think of, did either of you see the Woody
• 2:40:43
  Harrelson? SNL thing.
• 2:40:48
  I did not, but I I know like his his particular politic is like
• 2:40:54
  heavy libertarian, bordering on ANCAP, if I remember correctly.
• 2:40:58
  So I'm sure he pissed everybody off.
• 2:41:02
  Yeah, he basically. He basically, like talked about
• 2:41:07
  how he loves to smoke pot. And then he basically like was
• 2:41:12
  like. So I I was, I was getting really
• 2:41:15
  high and I I read this script and the script was for this
• 2:41:19
  movie about how like the drug cartels take over the world and
• 2:41:23
  then they force all the people today.
• 2:41:26
  To take their drugs and no one can go outside unless they take
• 2:41:31
  the cartels drugs. And I just thought man that that
• 2:41:36
  that that's a crazy movie. No one's ever going to buy that.
• 2:41:40
  And it was just it was that's a good joke.
• 2:41:43
  That's legitimately a good joke. It was it was 30 seconds that he
• 2:41:49
  did this whole like build up just to do that 32nd joke and it
• 2:41:53
  it was it was very subtle but you could hear a pin drop.
• 2:41:57
  In the. In the studio.
• 2:42:01
  Yeah, because those people are so out of touch.
• 2:42:04
  They like with with reality outside of the Little New York
• 2:42:08
  bubble, right? Like, he's not, he's not because
• 2:42:12
  he don't live in Hollywood or New York.
• 2:42:14
  He goes and does his business, but I'm pretty sure he lives out
• 2:42:17
  in like, Montana or some shit. I I will.
• 2:42:21
  I will say, though, that if you ever, ever seen uh curbed your
• 2:42:24
  enthusiasm, his his parody of. Like what?
• 2:42:30
  All of like what a left wing environmentalist is on Curb Your
• 2:42:35
  Enthusiasm is hilarious. I forget which episode it is,
• 2:42:40
  but it's. It's definitely worth watching,
• 2:42:44
  so. But I'm talking natural born
• 2:42:49
  killers hunger game. The thing is, is if you look at
• 2:42:52
  his work, he does particularly take kind of libertarian leaning
• 2:42:59
  projects over his entire career. Well, even even I would say, I
• 2:43:03
  mean my favorite personally is True Detective.
• 2:43:09
  There you go. Yeah.
• 2:43:12
  There's some of those themes in there too, yeah.
• 2:43:15
  And I mean, I, I know that McConaughey gets more of the
• 2:43:18
  credit for that type of thing, but like he's a he's another one
• 2:43:22
  that is kind of like, I guess, libertarian ish.
• 2:43:27
  So. Yeah, I mean, there's a there's
• 2:43:30
  a strain of those you got. What's his face?
• 2:43:33
  The. The guy that's friends with Adam
• 2:43:36
  Sandler there, he's, he's an ANCAP or something like, yeah,
• 2:43:40
  there's, there's a lot of there's like a subset.
• 2:43:43
  I guess they're the edgy kind of right wing version of what you
• 2:43:47
  can be in Hollywood is ANCAP, right?
• 2:43:51
  Yeah, that's fine. You know, I I love my end caps.
• 2:43:55
  Like my my buddy ASA Jay. I'm gonna try and get him on as
• 2:43:58
  a guest. By the way, this is one of the
• 2:44:00
  smartest guys on economics ever. But of course me and him
• 2:44:03
  disagree because he's like a hardcore and cap.
• 2:44:05
  And so we've had some blowout screaming matches over the
• 2:44:09
  years, too. Is is that the guy I keep
• 2:44:12
  hearing shmuli talaka that he, like, bullied off of, like,
• 2:44:15
  gilded, or no, no, no, it was. AJ is an old friend of mine.
• 2:44:22
  OK, Ohh OK, who is who's the guy that I guess, like not Vinny,
• 2:44:27
  but the other guy that like came into the gilded before me and
• 2:44:30
  then I guess like rage quitter. I have no idea.
• 2:44:36
  I don't remember. I don't pay that much attention
• 2:44:40
  sometimes, I think. But yeah, we.
• 2:44:45
  We have fun, you know? But yeah, like, like I was
• 2:44:48
  saying in Hollywood, if you're on the right wing, you just see,
• 2:44:51
  it seems like if you just say you're ancap, you kind of get a
• 2:44:54
  pass, right? Whereas if you say you're
• 2:44:56
  conservative, you get canceled. If you're an end cap, you still
• 2:45:00
  get roles. In in unless you're Norm
• 2:45:04
  MacDonald. And in which case he's he likes.
• 2:45:07
  Somehow Netflix kept him going forever.
• 2:45:11
  Yeah, you're right. Net and that folks kept him
• 2:45:15
  going. And Ann Coulter had like a huge
• 2:45:18
  crush on him. On them too.
• 2:45:21
  If you are if you if you guys wanna see something really
• 2:45:24
  weird. Just type into YouTube like.
• 2:45:29
  Norm McDonald and Ann Coulter. There's a there's a hilarious
• 2:45:35
  video from a few years ago where he's filling in on Dennis Moe's
• 2:45:39
  radio show, and Ann Coulter calls in and she's just
• 2:45:44
  basically like hitting on nonstop.
• 2:45:47
  The entire time, which is not an coulters like personality.
• 2:45:52
  Whatsoever, normally. But it's it's just hilarious to
• 2:45:57
  watch. But.
• 2:46:04
  But uh, anyway, Craig, anything else you want to?
• 2:46:10
  Discuss or anything else you wanna plug.
• 2:46:12
  I don't wanna keep, you know, people up too late tonight, but.
• 2:46:18
  Well, is it is a a weekday is why we normally try to do our
• 2:46:21
  shows more towards the weekends that we can.
• 2:46:24
  Yeah, on the other show. Um.
• 2:46:30
  No, I mean I. Uh, I think for more or less
• 2:46:34
  covered the topics that you wanted to to get into.
• 2:46:38
  Yeah. If you have any more questions
• 2:46:40
  on that end. Now I, I I appreciate you.
• 2:46:44
  I appreciate you coming on and you know.
• 2:46:48
  I mean, you're the you're honestly the first actual like.
• 2:46:53
  Expert I've talked to in regards to.
• 2:46:57
  You know, chemicals and nuclear stuff that didn't say don't make
• 2:47:02
  much came off. Well, you're not.
• 2:47:07
  Well, as far as I know though, you're not some huge non weirdo
• 2:47:11
  that that's what I'm that's what I'm saying.
• 2:47:15
  I know how Q Anon got started, and it's hilarious that a couple
• 2:47:19
  of 4 Chan mods were able to cause a movement like that.
• 2:47:22
  Yeah, I have. I have a feeling we both know
• 2:47:26
  who Q Anon is in here. Oh, oh shit.
• 2:47:32
  So the so the Q Anon being a 4 Chan thing is true.
• 2:47:36
  Then it was a grift by two mods. Yes.
• 2:47:39
  Yeah. Well, and then and then it just
• 2:47:41
  became a thing, right? Because it's so easy to just
• 2:47:44
  write a Q Anon post and say some gibberish, maybe rhyme, you
• 2:47:49
  know, maybe maybe have like some weird numbers level stuff.
• 2:47:53
  Yeah. And then just sign in you and
• 2:47:56
  like use a spoof that's like. IP that's like near DC somewhere
• 2:48:02
  vaguely. And then people like Oh my God,
• 2:48:05
  this is a real I I had one that I put up there that was posted
• 2:48:09
  in zero Hedge is one of the quote UN quote real ones.
• 2:48:14
  You just got to say something silly like the pigeon will land
• 2:48:17
  on the mutton chop and then it just takes off.
• 2:48:22
  And the king? The King will return to his
• 2:48:25
  throne. You know what?
• 2:48:27
  Oh my God. What, what, what do they mean by
• 2:48:35
  this? So I've been I've been on the
• 2:48:38
  Internet since. I've been on the Internet since
• 2:48:41
  I was like 6 years old. Like since like 90 the winner of
• 2:48:44
  92 or like 92 or 93 it was when I got online.
• 2:48:49
  So I've been around for a very long time watching this shit
• 2:48:52
  happen. And Q Anon is no different from
• 2:48:56
  any other kind of conspiracy bullshit.
• 2:48:58
  And it's hilarious to watch. I mean, I feel kind of bad for
• 2:49:01
  all the grannies who put their kids, you know, college money
• 2:49:04
  away into the ship. Uh.
• 2:49:07
  But as far as people being taken for a ride like it's, it's no
• 2:49:11
  different from any other kind of Internet bullshit.
• 2:49:14
  I yeah, no, I I mean I've, I've also, you know, been on the
• 2:49:19
  Internet for, you know, since I was a young kid.
• 2:49:23
  I mean I little, I always started podcasting when I was
• 2:49:27
  like 14. I remember back in the day when
• 2:49:31
  Alex Jones was. When you could find them on
• 2:49:36
  Winamp. Right.
• 2:49:38
  Or shadowcast, yeah. Yeah, I I was at like the
• 2:49:44
  forefront of Shoutcast streaming.
• 2:49:46
  I I did a show for fucking years and years on cryptic radio.
• 2:49:52
  It was like a fairly large station at the time.
• 2:49:57
  It was at the. I miss those days because I
• 2:50:00
  could a I could just play music like have a radio show, right?
• 2:50:04
  Like a old school radio show. And I got to know all these
• 2:50:08
  amazing like underground artists and then like BI could say
• 2:50:12
  whatever I want because I worked in, I worked at a radio station.
• 2:50:16
  I won't say the one because it's a bit doxy, but like I worked at
• 2:50:20
  an actual radio station as an intern for like 2 years.
• 2:50:25
  And they even let me host a show at like 3 in the morning on a
• 2:50:28
  Saturday for like a short period of time.
• 2:50:31
  But they immediately started censoring me.
• 2:50:33
  And it was at the the pinnacle of Shoutcast.
• 2:50:36
  I was like, I could just stream show from home.
• 2:50:39
  I'll show them. I'm going to make my own radio
• 2:50:41
  with blackjack and hookers and and we did.
• 2:50:45
  Except without the blackjack or the hookers.
• 2:50:49
  That is all. Yeah, that that's awesome.
• 2:50:54
  Yeah, I was on the Internet. Used to be cool, man.
• 2:50:57
  I don't know what it really was. Well, I was on there with BBS.
• 2:51:01
  It's bulletin board system that's basically Proto 4 Chan,
• 2:51:04
  if you will, except it was civilized.
• 2:51:07
  I got so I would I would talk. Well, yeah.
• 2:51:11
  OK quotes. Like but look the the people who
• 2:51:15
  would like the the architects of the Internet would show up on
• 2:51:19
  BBS. Because it wasn't a very large
• 2:51:22
  community of people who, like, would do that kind of text, text
• 2:51:25
  messaging board stuff. And it was it was as boring as
• 2:51:29
  as you think it sounds. It would just be a bunch of text
• 2:51:31
  on your screen. There's no images, no real
• 2:51:33
  formatting besides like dashes and vertical bars and little bit
• 2:51:36
  of asky art. But it's you.
• 2:51:39
  You could talk to the people who like made shit happen on the
• 2:51:42
  Internet and learn from them how stuff worked.
• 2:51:44
  And if you you just have to do a show up very politely and and
• 2:51:49
  ask them how to do stuff and they are more than happy because
• 2:51:52
  they are happy to geek out on you.
• 2:51:55
  Just all you have to do is throw a buzzword or two in there to
• 2:51:57
  let them know you understand some of the fundamentals and
• 2:51:59
  they'll just take off. Yeah, just like any anybody who
• 2:52:03
  is, you know, I'll go ahead and claim the term a nerd here.
• 2:52:08
  Like you just get them talking about the stuff they're
• 2:52:10
  passionate about and they'll roll on for hours and days.
• 2:52:13
  But it's on a bulletin board system, so it doesn't, you don't
• 2:52:16
  have to be there to listen to them.
• 2:52:17
  They'll just keep going and you come back and read it later.
• 2:52:20
  I don't want to. I don't want to give it away.
• 2:52:22
  So I won't say who, but that's that is basically the guests we
• 2:52:26
  have lined up for your next Sam. And that's exactly what he will
• 2:52:33
  do. I will say that he his
• 2:52:36
  background is actually in AI he he worked in.
• 2:52:42
  Tech as a as an AI programmer in or or something similar to that
• 2:52:49
  in the 90s. And he's a really interesting
• 2:52:52
  guy and he has a lot to say about AI.
• 2:52:55
  And I feel like that's a current event, right?
• 2:52:58
  That's something that he might know perspective on, so.
• 2:53:02
  Ohh yeah, definitely. Well, you know, playing around
• 2:53:05
  with the. What's a fun area on its own and
• 2:53:10
  I've I've got enough experience in that one.
• 2:53:13
  A lot of this stuff with you know the whole freaking out
• 2:53:15
  about is ChatGPT software kind of stuff.
• 2:53:18
  So it's it's nowhere close. It's a really really really
• 2:53:24
  advanced Markov chain bot. No.
• 2:53:27
  So it's it's it's more advanced than that.
• 2:53:29
  It's not a Markov chain it's it is a neural net.
• 2:53:34
  Yeah, but that and so, but but that's not part of the Markov
• 2:53:37
  chain. So it's, it's, it's, it's a
• 2:53:40
  recurrent neural network. So that means instead of all
• 2:53:43
  being fed One Direction some of those stuff feeds back and
• 2:53:46
  that's that's basically kind of like you think about like having
• 2:53:49
  RAM on a computer, so it has an internal state because of that
• 2:53:54
  and because of that internal state you can do some
• 2:53:56
  metaprogramming, which actually had fun with discussing with
• 2:53:59
  your brother. We got, we got CHPT to say some
• 2:54:04
  very funny things, but it's because I have two.
• 2:54:07
  Yeah, it's because you can manipulate this internal state,
• 2:54:11
  but it's temporary. It doesn't, it's not reflective
• 2:54:14
  of the training of the thing. And it has a filter, which is an
• 2:54:18
  entirely separate neural net that's trained to block out some
• 2:54:21
  stuff and give canned answers, you know, and then you can hit
• 2:54:26
  that. It's another it's got another
• 2:54:29
  internal state to that, but it's a smaller network.
• 2:54:31
  It's trained on specific inputs, you know, like if you say tell
• 2:54:35
  me a joke about men and then tell me a joke about women, that
• 2:54:38
  kind of difference that can be kind of hammered away at.
• 2:54:41
  But if you load in certain things ahead of time, you can
• 2:54:43
  get it to start saying stuff you want as long as you manipulate
• 2:54:46
  this internal state. This again.
• 2:54:51
  Pseudo speak here like a RAM buffer.
• 2:54:55
  Like a memory buffer. So it's it's not sophisticated
• 2:55:00
  in the sense of a general purpose AI or a artificial
• 2:55:05
  general intelligence and AGI. It's not, you know, it's not
• 2:55:09
  Skynet. It's nowhere near something.
• 2:55:11
  That's it's it's. It's running words like numbers
• 2:55:15
  and using patterns like it's not.
• 2:55:19
  It's not doing abstract thought. Yeah.
• 2:55:23
  But yeah, like if it's it, it can appear that way to the
• 2:55:27
  layperson. Yeah, you know, it has that has
• 2:55:30
  not provided, has not interacted with it sufficiently to start to
• 2:55:33
  figure it out. And because it's as broadly red,
• 2:55:39
  so to speak, it's trained on such a large data set that
• 2:55:43
  reflects so much of what has been spoken by people online.
• 2:55:46
  Um. It will, you know, if you start
• 2:55:49
  talking to it like you're talking to someone online.
• 2:55:51
  Or talk. Try.
• 2:55:52
  Even talking to a bot online, that's part of his training set
• 2:55:56
  too, is a lot of chat bot logs. It will respond in a way that.
• 2:56:02
  Looks like other stuff you see online.
• 2:56:04
  And a lot of that is, you know, a lot of that's us, but it's not
• 2:56:07
  deep us. It's not the deep thought of
• 2:56:11
  humans. You will never get on a trained
• 2:56:15
  neural network. You will never get what's called
• 2:56:17
  insight learning, where you learn from a mistake, abstract
• 2:56:20
  from that, and prevent another mistake from happening by
• 2:56:23
  modifying unrelated behavior. I actually had, I mean in Max
• 2:56:30
  was there for, but I actually had Chappie GBT like right, a
• 2:56:34
  full length like magazine review of the Whitfield report.
• 2:56:40
  It knew his show, like immediately, and it was
• 2:56:43
  accurate. And it was, it was a glowing
• 2:56:45
  review. But but we also figured out that
• 2:56:50
  that what it what it did was it probably pulled from like iTunes
• 2:56:55
  and all like all these other. Spotify reviews iTunes, things
• 2:57:01
  like that. Which is, which is great.
• 2:57:05
  That's that's cool. I think I think that that's
• 2:57:07
  awesome that you could get it to do that and it it recognized you
• 2:57:11
  because I tried a couple other things including including my
• 2:57:13
  garbage show, and it didn't know me.
• 2:57:16
  So like good on ChatGPT. Well no no no it it it did it
• 2:57:21
  did after a while. The though.
• 2:57:22
  Remember like once you once you verified you have to I directed
• 2:57:27
  it to my YouTube channel and then I think it scraped like my
• 2:57:31
  descriptions of my videos. And came up with something to
• 2:57:34
  say about it. It it it gave him, it gave him
• 2:57:39
  very interesting description for what Gamergate was it it was
• 2:57:45
  actually. Like, as far as what Gamergate
• 2:57:49
  is, it gave like probably the most neutral, like factual
• 2:57:54
  response that I've ever seen. On what?
• 2:58:01
  On what Gamergate actually was. The thing is, whether people
• 2:58:05
  like it or not, you know, this type of AI is going to be
• 2:58:09
  integral to a lot of business and commerce going forward,
• 2:58:14
  probably education as well. I mean it very well could
• 2:58:19
  replace journalism, you know, that's, that's.
• 2:58:25
  I mean, I mean to a degree maybe, OK, maybe not, maybe not
• 2:58:29
  replace journalism, but. Definitely move in a different
• 2:58:34
  well. I did better direction.
• 2:58:36
  I did the the beep Boop Robo game reviews to kind of prove
• 2:58:41
  that you could make a a garbage baseline review very easily
• 2:58:45
  which had GBT and then use another AI to do the voice and
• 2:58:50
  like. I made that in like 45 minutes.
• 2:58:53
  It's a YouTube video review and and The thing is, the game it's
• 2:58:56
  reviewing, it's super accurate about that game, which is
• 2:59:00
  hilarious because it's probably just pooling from all these,
• 2:59:03
  like, Metacritic reviews or whatever.
• 2:59:06
  Umm. Will it replace the game
• 2:59:09
  journals? No.
• 2:59:10
  But does it give them a run for their money to actually start
• 2:59:14
  producing content instead of noncent?
• 2:59:16
  Probably. Games journos are really not
• 2:59:21
  that hard to replace. Not at all.
• 2:59:24
  No and, and and and if the baseline AI can just make a good
• 2:59:28
  game review in 5 minutes with a realistic sounding voice that
• 2:59:31
  you don't even know the difference if it's fucking real
• 2:59:33
  or not. Why?
• 2:59:35
  Why? You know, why wouldn't they want
• 2:59:39
  to take step their game up? Because they're going to be
• 2:59:42
  replaced by those. It's like being a McDonald's
• 2:59:44
  worker when you see the kiosk doing a good job and you suck.
• 2:59:51
  So a fun one to look at, which is which is very poorly trained.
• 2:59:56
  Uh. Is uh is the u.com AI search
• 3:00:03
  engine. So what you do is you go to
• 3:00:07
  uyu.com, type in your, you know, say, your Twitter handle, and
• 3:00:13
  then at the top you know, like with Google, where you have the
• 3:00:15
  different kinds of searches you can do after you've got your
• 3:00:17
  search results initially. Um, next to all, there's a tab
• 3:00:21
  called chat. Click on chat.
• 3:00:24
  And then it'll tell you like if you just put in your Twitter
• 3:00:26
  handle and then you search yourself and then you click on
• 3:00:28
  chat. Uh.
• 3:00:33
  They will respond. Uh.
• 3:00:38
  And it's again, it's not very well trained and it's so it
• 3:00:41
  doesn't really know what is the best information that's
• 3:00:43
  important. To pick up, so for example.
• 3:00:47
  Um. Right now I just did just did a
• 3:00:51
  search so Craig Bob, 99 would be me on Twitter, says the handle
• 3:00:55
  of Craig Mansfield user joined at Bate has followers, which is
• 3:01:00
  not usually even the correct number of followers.
• 3:01:04
  Has been involved a variety of conversations on Twitter and
• 3:01:07
  this is the fun. It's hilarious to me.
• 3:01:09
  It says discussions about My Little Pony.
• 3:01:13
  Child beauty pageants and war says on August 24th, 2022, Craig
• 3:01:18
  Bob, 99, allegedly swatted Marjorie Taylor Green, an
• 3:01:21
  American politician Republican Party.
• 3:01:28
  So there's a lot of fun you can like, and they know that it's
• 3:01:31
  not like. Like, fantastic.
• 3:01:34
  AI yet? But like this is one of those.
• 3:01:37
  This is one of those great things.
• 3:01:40
  I guess it's a meta kind of meta.
• 3:01:45
  Application for AI where instead of.
• 3:01:48
  Giving you instead of continuing a prompt that you're given.
• 3:01:52
  Like uh in ChatGPT, it's the AI is being used to select the
• 3:01:58
  information that is returned back to the user.
• 3:02:01
  So it's kind of like a prompt, but it's a meta version of that
• 3:02:05
  where it's about the prompt, not the continuation of the prompt.
• 3:02:09
  So it's trying to select from the data it's able to search out
• 3:02:13
  how to give the correct answer to your query.
• 3:02:18
  It AI as as we know it right now, what we're talking about is
• 3:02:23
  it's it's a medium, it's a tool, right?
• 3:02:26
  And like, it's because, like I, I maintain the AI, R is still to
• 3:02:30
  some degree because it requires the prompt.
• 3:02:33
  It is still a huge it's a human thing.
• 3:02:35
  There's a human interaction there.
• 3:02:37
  It's not this fully independent, you know, everybody thinks of
• 3:02:41
  fucking Skynet and it's just kind of silly because this isn't
• 3:02:45
  capable of higher thought or anything like that.
• 3:02:50
  Oh boy. Yeah, so that's the website and
• 3:02:52
  just go ahead and fire in the querier someone's handle.
• 3:02:57
  This should be fun. My favorite part about like, I I
• 3:03:01
  don't interact with MLP at all and I I think that I think
• 3:03:06
  bronies are fucking cancer. So the fact that it keeps saying
• 3:03:09
  that I'm somehow an active user in the My Little Pony fandom is
• 3:03:13
  hilarious. Yeah, I I be trolling you.
• 3:03:18
  Then it's like and has an Arian pony OC that has garnered a lot
• 3:03:21
  of attention and that's just like, that's amazing.
• 3:03:24
  Ah, you'll have to show me your Arian conio.
• 3:03:27
  See, right. Yeah.
• 3:03:28
  That's exactly wonderful. Yep, chat.
• 3:03:35
  OK, this solidify. Uh, OK.
• 3:03:48
  At assembly burnish, Randy See is Instagram user.
• 3:03:55
  With 544 or followers 2147. And 393 pounds.
• 3:04:06
  They have posted photos and videos from various locations
• 3:04:11
  such as Tampa. OK, that's partially correct.
• 3:04:15
  And island no they also. Regularly post about their
• 3:04:22
  travels and experiences, which yes, on Instagram I do.
• 3:04:27
  But. OK, that was pretty low hanging
• 3:04:32
  fruit for it to look for, right? The the funny, The funny thing
• 3:04:38
  of it is is is I think they're. I think they're getting the iron
• 3:04:42
  thing because. I, I, I love me some Guinness
• 3:04:47
  and so. Whenever I'm out at the pub, I
• 3:04:52
  was post Guinness Pictures to Instagram.
• 3:04:55
  And that if if that's the case, that's fucking hilarious.
• 3:04:59
  But at the same time, it's also you're you are making a big leap
• 3:05:04
  in in your assumption here, just to give you an idea like how
• 3:05:07
  easily people will fall. And I'm not saying you are, but
• 3:05:09
  how easily someone could fall into a trap that they provide
• 3:05:13
  themselves to give an AI some level of humanness that it
• 3:05:19
  doesn't really have. You know, so.
• 3:05:23
  You're assuming a certain depth of you're assuming a certain
• 3:05:25
  depth of search by saying that you know the connect the ability
• 3:05:28
  to connect Guinness to Ireland, for example.
• 3:05:31
  Is is a bit of a stretch for this thing maybe.
• 3:05:34
  Yeah that. But that's what's funny is I've
• 3:05:36
  as I've never been to Ireland before.
• 3:05:39
  Well I think the funny part is said something like my Irish
• 3:05:43
  pride, it might have picked up on something like that.
• 3:05:46
  Ohh, or if you posted it from a pub on Saint Patty's Day or some
• 3:05:50
  shit. And you're like happy fucking
• 3:05:53
  Irish pride or whatever. Yeah, but The thing is, is is we
• 3:05:57
  don't know. And that's half the fun of like
• 3:05:59
  an AI like this that's not fully formed.
• 3:06:01
  It's just a speculate on the bullshit.
• 3:06:03
  But but he's right. It's it's always a trap because
• 3:06:06
  you can't really know what. Like information barrel, it's
• 3:06:10
  it's picking from to find whatever scrap of information it
• 3:06:13
  has. OK, well, let's see if it'll do
• 3:06:17
  anything new for. Alright, it doesn't new, it
• 3:06:23
  doesn't new blurb every time you search even the same thing.
• 3:06:26
  By the way, I haven't gotten. So one of the things you can
• 3:06:29
  look for when you're doing a data analysis is something
• 3:06:32
  called a fixed point. So if you feed a function the
• 3:06:37
  same value over and over again, or if you try to feed it the
• 3:06:40
  output that it put out as the input over and over again,
• 3:06:44
  sometimes it'll come to a fixed point and it will give you the
• 3:06:47
  same result every time. And that's not something that
• 3:06:51
  I've observedwithyou.com as of yet.
• 3:06:54
  So whatever it's using as an input has has a degree of
• 3:06:57
  randomness to it. Yeah, because Campbell Hall NY
• 3:07:01
  yeah, not. That's not the case.
• 3:07:07
  For instance, I could put my hand on again and I get, you
• 3:07:10
  know, Craig, 99, Twitter handle of me political commentator, who
• 3:07:14
  is active on social media, known for his outspoken opinions and
• 3:07:17
  his support of the Latin American community during his
• 3:07:20
  most recent tweets are related to current political events as
• 3:07:23
  well as his personal views on a variety of topics, which is all.
• 3:07:26
  Generic gobbledygook. Except the Latin American
• 3:07:30
  community, one which which the reason that that stands out.
• 3:07:35
  Is is because it's so very specific.
• 3:07:39
  And then and then you'd be like well, where where did it take
• 3:07:41
  this kernel of information up? And you probably find some red
• 3:07:45
  Heron to blame it on. But it it it is funny that it
• 3:07:49
  always has one very specific thing like that.
• 3:07:52
  That seems to be obviously not true, but if I was to like try
• 3:07:56
  to ascribe something, if I was to try and make it a logical
• 3:07:58
  leap here, my girlfriend is Latin American.
• 3:08:03
  Well, if I would say ohh, clearly it was picking up on
• 3:08:06
  that. So which I don't talk about
• 3:08:08
  reported by you support the Latin American community by
• 3:08:12
  banging them. I support a specific Latin
• 3:08:15
  American. There you go.
• 3:08:20
  Well, well, that that's the best way to to support them and make
• 3:08:24
  more of them. But but it's not in Latin
• 3:08:27
  America. She's not like us American yet
• 3:08:31
  so like that. So it's funny because like the
• 3:08:35
  different levels of of like the different rabbit holes you can
• 3:08:38
  go down with this stuff is it's all fascinating and a lot of
• 3:08:42
  it's hilarious. Well I try and I was explaining
• 3:08:46
  this we had the guy on our server that adjoined.
• 3:08:49
  I don't even know where he came from Vinny and and he's a bit
• 3:08:52
  conspiratorial and I I try and explain to him and it's like
• 3:08:55
  sometimes you know a cloud really does look like a thing.
• 3:08:59
  And sometimes it's just a cloud, you know what I mean?
• 3:09:03
  It's a bit, you know, I would say to him, it's a bit funny
• 3:09:06
  that you just so happened to find your way here.
• 3:09:08
  Vinny, how far down the rabbit hole he wants to go with that
• 3:09:11
  one. Vinny is also, to be fair to
• 3:09:15
  him, though, he's also like incredibly he's what, 22?
• 3:09:20
  Yeah, he's a young guy. No, I don't.
• 3:09:22
  I don't mean to pick on him. It's just I was.
• 3:09:24
  I was explaining that specifically, too to him the
• 3:09:28
  other day. It's like, yeah, yeah, you know,
• 3:09:30
  sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, as they say, and then
• 3:09:34
  sometimes it's a big brown Dick, right?
• 3:09:38
  Like, it depends on the situation.
• 3:09:40
  But you know what? It's the conspiracy stuff.
• 3:09:43
  In particular is can be really sexy.
• 3:09:46
  And that's why it's so easy to fall down because it's sexy to
• 3:09:50
  look for hidden codes, and it's sexy to find hidden knowledge
• 3:09:54
  that nobody else has. Like, I'm smart, I know a thing
• 3:09:58
  ahead of time, and it's a it's not really good for you.
• 3:10:01
  It's like fast food. No, yeah, no.
• 3:10:04
  The only the only reason I brought up his age is like, I'm
• 3:10:08
  is. I'm 28 now, but when I was 22 I
• 3:10:11
  also remember being like there are hidden.
• 3:10:14
  They're always conspiracies, and now I'm kind of like.
• 3:10:18
  And now I'm kind of like probably isn't.
• 3:10:22
  Isn't a conspiracy. Well that's that's The thing is
• 3:10:25
  there's all kinds of things happening at the same time.
• 3:10:30
  There's people with aligned interests that never need to
• 3:10:33
  speak to you. I want my perfect example is, is
• 3:10:37
  is the George Soros Antifa thing because people will be like,
• 3:10:40
  because you ask like do you think Antifa takes, you know
• 3:10:45
  action and and directives directly from him?
• 3:10:48
  Well of course not right? Well what does he do for them?
• 3:10:51
  He gives them money. Why?
• 3:10:53
  Because he knows that they're gonna do the thing.
• 3:10:55
  Because they're antifa. That's it.
• 3:10:58
  It's what they do. Right.
• 3:11:00
  And so he he wants them to go out and do the protests.
• 3:11:04
  He wants them to create chaos. He wants them to to light fires.
• 3:11:08
  And maybe he doesn't say any of that, though, and, and this is
• 3:11:12
  the frustrating part for the conspiracy guys.
• 3:11:14
  None of this is ever going to be on paper.
• 3:11:17
  But what they do benefits what he wants to have happen.
• 3:11:21
  And so he bails them out of jail.
• 3:11:23
  That's not even a conspiracy. That's that's him acting in the
• 3:11:27
  interest of his own fucking thing and then doing what the
• 3:11:30
  the crazy loony left is going to do.
• 3:11:33
  And that's how they take advantage of it.
• 3:11:35
  And once you realize that there are no ties, you're not going to
• 3:11:38
  tie them together and and and and drag them before a big
• 3:11:42
  tribunal. Unfortunately.
• 3:11:45
  Well, no, and not yet like we we need to do.
• 3:11:48
  There's a lot of groundwork to get to that point that we would
• 3:11:51
  have to lay. And and what I've told been in
• 3:11:55
  what I've told other like conspiracy minded people like
• 3:11:58
  and my my theory is this if there is let's say that they're
• 3:12:03
  right and there is there is like a super secret cabal that like
• 3:12:08
  controls everything. It's it's not it's not George
• 3:12:13
  Soros we we probably. It doesn't matter because the
• 3:12:23
  solution to both scenarios is the same is is standing up for,
• 3:12:28
  you know, basic things that like, at least from my
• 3:12:32
  perspective and I think yours like basic American values,
• 3:12:36
  right? Like old school kind of kind of
• 3:12:39
  rolling it back at least a couple decades.
• 3:12:43
  Yeah, but, but and and then the rebuttal was, uh, well, the
• 3:12:46
  powers that be are too powerful. And it's like, no, they're not
• 3:12:51
  like the the powers that be, as we just discussed for the last
• 3:12:54
  two hours, are largely incompetent.
• 3:12:58
  They can't even fix rail railways properly.
• 3:13:02
  They're in complete disarray as well, like they're they're all
• 3:13:07
  at each because now everybody on both sides of the aisle smells
• 3:13:11
  blood in the water for the next election, right?
• 3:13:14
  And so they're all trying to fucking take shots at each other
• 3:13:17
  and and stab everybody in the fucking back and it's gonna be a
• 3:13:21
  bloodbath. We'll see who comes out on top.
• 3:13:23
  I have. I have my favorites.
• 3:13:26
  Other people have theirs. Let them all fight.
• 3:13:29
  I say at this point, yeah, it'll it'll be a shit show.
• 3:13:33
  Let let's let it happen. I want Biden to run now.
• 3:13:35
  I've thought about it long and hard and like he should, because
• 3:13:39
  he's given an FU to all his handlers is what he's doing.
• 3:13:43
  He he might not be competent, but he is a stubborn asshole
• 3:13:48
  man. And sometimes you gotta respect
• 3:13:50
  how much of a stubborn old man he is when he thinks he's gonna
• 3:13:54
  fucking run again. You know, I can't help but laugh
• 3:13:57
  and and and admire the temerity of that stubborn Irish
• 3:14:01
  motherfucker, right? That's a terrible idea though.
• 3:14:08
  What? Listen.
• 3:14:09
  But Biden is Biden is hilarious. But it's because.
• 3:14:15
  It's because he not because he is intentionally being funded,
• 3:14:20
  but because he he's just Joe Biden.
• 3:14:25
  Like the whole? The whole is screaming at
• 3:14:29
  clouds. You know he he went against the
• 3:14:33
  proverbial old man's screams at cloud.
• 3:14:36
  He's fucking grandpa Simpson. In real life, you know, back in
• 3:14:42
  my day, we wore onions on our belt.
• 3:14:44
  That was the style of, like, that's him.
• 3:14:47
  And then and then people are like, Mr. President, what the
• 3:14:51
  fuck are you talking about? And he's like, listen, Jack, you
• 3:14:54
  don't know a thing or two about the onion belts, OK?
• 3:15:00
  Yeah, I like it now though. When he when he wasn't taking
• 3:15:04
  questions during during the whole train derailment thing or
• 3:15:07
  even before because he doesn't take questions anymore.
• 3:15:10
  It's amazing if you actually watch it in real time.
• 3:15:13
  Because he just sits there with like an angry smile on his face,
• 3:15:18
  looking at the fucking press for like 30 to 60 seconds every
• 3:15:22
  time. And they're gonna ask questions
• 3:15:24
  at that point because he's sitting there, right?
• 3:15:26
  He's like, OK, we're done. And then he just sits there and
• 3:15:29
  looks at them. And then he just like we just
• 3:15:33
  walks away. It's it's the weirdest thing,
• 3:15:36
  you know? It's like the most uncomfortable
• 3:15:37
  thing. He sits there way, way too long
• 3:15:40
  with this dopey fucking grin on his face.
• 3:15:43
  Like he like, he's like, oh, I got you.
• 3:15:46
  I'm just not going to say anything.
• 3:15:49
  Well, and the the thing with is, is this is This is why we never
• 3:15:53
  saw him with Obama when Obama was.
• 3:15:58
  Was present right. I mean I don't know the fact
• 3:16:02
  these vice president and. And you never always see the
• 3:16:05
  vice president, but like if if Biden had been besides Obama
• 3:16:11
  24/7. It would have made Obama look
• 3:16:15
  weird. Well, and he's always known for
• 3:16:20
  being a fucking idiot. Like long before he was a
• 3:16:22
  demented idiot, he was just an idiot.
• 3:16:27
  And a plagiarist? Yes, Joe Biden was known for
• 3:16:31
  being a acidic gaff machine and a race and a racist too.
• 3:16:37
  Yeah. One one of the more racist ones.
• 3:16:43
  Ohh by Ohh by the way that that's another topic that I that
• 3:16:48
  I'm told is somehow banned off. YouTube, which is the Clarence
• 3:16:54
  Thomas hearings because me too. Shit and whatnot.
• 3:17:02
  Even though it happened. Even though that fucking
• 3:17:06
  happened 30 fucking years before me too.
• 3:17:09
  But whatever. You know what I think, Sammy, we
• 3:17:13
  we got a favor done to you. In in you're getting banned,
• 3:17:17
  right? Because it didn't change you to
• 3:17:19
  talk about things instead of dancing around their stupid
• 3:17:23
  fucking algorithm and their stupid fucking censorship.
• 3:17:27
  Bots, yeah, well. Was I explained to people like I
• 3:17:31
  wasn't? It wasn't that much of a loss
• 3:17:34
  for me because, like, I wasn't. Like, I mean, I lost 800 Subs,
• 3:17:40
  but I wasn't getting like people were singing notifications from
• 3:17:43
  my videos until the next day sometimes.
• 3:17:48
  People were getting unsubscribed, you know, from the
• 3:17:52
  channel. You know, I like ironically the
• 3:17:58
  E drama stuff was the only thing that YouTube would have let me
• 3:18:04
  would push in the algorithm, which I kind of find no shit.
• 3:18:08
  People ask why I do a show about drama now, but even though I
• 3:18:11
  don't do like. I don't do like famous, you
• 3:18:16
  know, lol cows. I have my own little cadre of
• 3:18:19
  interesting fellows that I follow.
• 3:18:22
  Um, but why? Why do I do that?
• 3:18:25
  Because I when I was the last time I was doing politics, Tim
• 3:18:29
  Poole actually, copyright struck me and said I needed to take
• 3:18:32
  down a video because I was making fun of him for being
• 3:18:35
  bald. Yeah, Gavin, the the whole
• 3:18:39
  reason why I started the field of water channel instead of
• 3:18:42
  just, you know, doing it under my.
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  Name. Was because.
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  Was because I uploaded a clip. With commentary of like
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  something that Gavin McGinnis. Said, and Gavin McGinnis struck
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  it down because he is a whiny bitch.
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  Facts. Even even though I even though
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  in the video I was literally saying hey look, this guy makes
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  a good point. You know what one of the strikes
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  that a a group I was I'm with. One of the strikes that our
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  YouTube channel that I run with other people got was from
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  mundane Matt. Ah, so sorry, I don't know if
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  you know about the clip where he it's from some movie he produced
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  with some friends where he uses a plastic bag and to kill a guy
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  in in the movie. What was like money, let's not
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  film confirmed it's like 11 seconds long.
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  And I posted that up and basically I posted it as you
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  know, I said basically fair use, fuck you.
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  And I'm commenting on it right now and I don't think I ended up
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  fighting it, but yeah, I should have if it's still, I mean, I
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  can still fight it now if it's still down.
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  If it is, eventually I'll probably get to it, sure.
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  But he, like I did that specifically because he was
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  flagging that shit down elsewhere, like on Twitter and
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  so on. So I went ahead and posted up
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  there and said basically fuck you man.
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  And he flagged it down. Um, mundane Matt is not.
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  That's not Matt Jarbo, is it? That's Matt jarbo.
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  Yeah. OK ohh it is Matt jarbo.
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  Yeah, I. He used to flag everybody.
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  I I think you weren't really aware because I know you, you
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  you correspond with him on Twitter and shit like he's.
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  He's not the way he was back then.
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  I'll say thanks. Ohh yeah I I know.
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  I I I've seen, I've seen documentaries on the way that he
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  was however. What was funny was I I I was
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  going to offer him to do a debate scheme with NERDROTIC.
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  Because he's been beefing with uh.
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  He's been beefing with, like, another movie critic.
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  YouTuber I guess, and so. I was basically know what them
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  like hash out, but like neither of them have gotten back to me.
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  I guess and. And I mean people.
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  People still hate jar boy, yes, but to each their own.
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  Well, he's he's uh, calmed himself down.
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  And he seems to be. He seems to have finally got
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  himself like it. It was funny enough at the time
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  because it was being used as a sad excuse in the, you know, the
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  infamous Boulder stream where he got out at his flagging
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  everybody. And but at the same time, you
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  know, there must have been something to him being in a bad
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  place at the time, because he clearly is.
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  Has gone through some self improvement since then.
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  Well, he suffered as a result of it.
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  He basically lost his whole career and so like he it's.
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  You know I I listen to a lot of cause I like pod awful, right?
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  I'm. I'm one of those guys, you know.
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  I know everybody in the world look good.
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  I don't find it funny. Whatever.
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  He did these. He did these great streams.
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  It's just Matt, Jarbo and Jesse and it's some of the God damn
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  funniest like. Two in the morning.
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  Bullshit I ever fucking heard in my life.
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  Because it's it's it's Jesse asking like real questions and
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  jarbo being real about it and. That's pretty good stuff,
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  actually. It's it's really funny.
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  It's really, really funny. But of course Jesse's not funny,
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  so never mind. Ohh no no they weren't funny.
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  Well, the the thing that I heard, he tells fibs sometimes.
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  Well, well, the thing that Jesse is Jesse is always, and it's
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  clear that he's doing a character, but he's just always
• 3:22:59
  doing that character. Yeah, it's it's it's not like
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  high fucking art, you know? He's just pulling pranks on
• 3:23:07
  people and they I think people take that kind of shit too
• 3:23:09
  serious. But you know who's you know
• 3:23:11
  who's an untapped pool of locales.
• 3:23:12
  That's why I bring this up. But it's like we we can lean
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  into an untapped pool of lol cows that are called
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  politicians, right? Ohh yeah, because they're a
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  laugh of fucking minute. You know when you when you stop
• 3:23:29
  yourself from crying. Well, I mean I I.
• 3:23:35
  I was going to do videos on AOC a few years ago, but then
• 3:23:39
  everyone bought beat me to the punch with that so.
• 3:23:44
  And yeah. Yeah, you wanna.
• 3:23:50
  You want China as someone with a horse face, that's definitely
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  her. She's in.
• 3:23:56
  She's an interesting one, but but you know, the good thing is
• 3:24:00
  like any good local, she never stops providing milk, right?
• 3:24:03
  Like this broad. She she live streams herself on
• 3:24:08
  Instagram like a fucking enthought while she's a God damn
• 3:24:11
  sitting congresswoman and and it's hilarious.
• 3:24:14
  I don't know if you've ever watched like.
• 3:24:17
  Most people see clips of it on Twitter, but I'm telling you,
• 3:24:21
  watch like 5 minutes of an AOC stream if you get the chance.
• 3:24:24
  If you see that pop up because it's, yeah.
• 3:24:28
  The only clip you need to watch like to definitely know what
• 3:24:31
  kind of what caliber of intellectual she is, is 1, where
• 3:24:34
  she discovers an instinct disposal.
• 3:24:37
  Yeah. I is the it's just like whole
• 3:24:43
  fuck me lady, you are so. Yeah, I go back to the bar, I
• 3:24:48
  think. I think I've seen that quote.
• 3:24:51
  I think I've seen that clip. And then I've also seen the
• 3:24:54
  stupid one where she's like dancing on the roof or whatever.
• 3:25:00
  That that one. And that was just silly fun.
• 3:25:02
  That was like a video she made in college to yeah, so it's a
• 3:25:06
  mime. A what the hell is that movie?
• 3:25:11
  It was the scene right out of the movie Titanic.
• 3:25:15
  No. I wish.
• 3:25:17
  Ohh wait no. In the Titanic the the chick
• 3:25:19
  survives. Never mind.
• 3:25:29
  No, but there's plenty of ammunition.
• 3:25:31
  They're always up to stupid shit.
• 3:25:33
  I mean, like, I guess the different angle I can I could
• 3:25:36
  take on the show is, is I like the financial shit.
• 3:25:38
  I can really dig into that kind of stuff.
• 3:25:41
  Yeah. An econ sperg.
• 3:25:44
  Oh, yeah, that's right. We we can we can talk.
• 3:25:46
  We can talk about that here now, too, because.
• 3:25:50
  Meet me and smoothly in particular, like that's our one
• 3:25:54
  of our fascinations. Well, listen, I I used to.
• 3:25:59
  I used to talk stocks all the time with my late grandfather,
• 3:26:03
  so you know. Well, gentlemen, it is 1230.
• 3:26:06
  Yes, Sir. I was going to say the same
• 3:26:09
  thing. Yeah.
• 3:26:12
  Yeah, it is. We we all ought to wrap this up.
• 3:26:17
  Thanks to all of you for. Things to both of you and oh oh
• 3:26:22
  shoot, real quick. Uh, David Crocco coming in with
• 3:26:25
  the $2.00 donation taking calls. Uh, not, not tonight.
• 3:26:34
  I think we're going to wrap it up.
• 3:26:35
  But. I might do a Coliseum on Friday,
• 3:26:40
  maybe. I think, I think Friday, Friday
• 3:26:43
  for Collins does seem like it would be fun.
• 3:26:47
  You know, you do Friday for we could do like Monday for like
• 3:26:51
  general news, funny shit, Wednesday guests, and then
• 3:26:54
  Friday Collins. Well, well, Monday is when I do
• 3:26:58
  the general news, right. I try and keep that under an
• 3:27:01
  hour. Wednesday is like the long form
• 3:27:05
  show I you know, we have tonight and then Friday we haven't
• 3:27:09
  really had one yet but that that might just be for whatever.
• 3:27:14
  So yeah. Well, well, like shmuli and I
• 3:27:17
  have been working on a lot of like bits and and comedy stuff
• 3:27:20
  that would fit in on like a Friday show with Collins and and
• 3:27:24
  fun and most mostly politically. Oriented.
• 3:27:28
  You know, but. Anyway, Craig, thanks for coming
• 3:27:33
  on. Anything you want to plug real
• 3:27:34
  quick, well, people find you. So between you know, usually
• 3:27:40
  you'll be able to find me ship posting on Twitter at Craig Bob
• 3:27:43
  99. I have a link tree which is
• 3:27:46
  posted in the bio there. Same handle so link tree slash
• 3:27:51
  Craig Bob 99. And otherwise you'll be able to
• 3:27:55
  find me. Talking the same kind of shock
• 3:27:59
  we did here tonight. Of my buddy Steve and Evan over
• 3:28:03
  at that on that fake untitled podcast.
• 3:28:06
  So at that fake guide, Dan on Twitter use our our ringleader.
• 3:28:13
  Ohh yeah, that's that's more or less where you'll be able to.
• 3:28:17
  Catch more of my brilliant bullshit.
• 3:28:20
  The spur Wrangler, if you will. Alrighty.
• 3:28:25
  Sounds good. And thank you for coming on and
• 3:28:28
  we might have to have you back at some point, so.
• 3:28:32
  And folks thanks to all of you who tuned in and you know thanks
• 3:28:36
  for Max for kind of. Stepping in here as well
• 3:28:42
  tonight, so. Want to thank everyone for
• 3:28:45
  tuning in and. See you on the next episode.
• 3:28:49
  Have a good night, folks. Thanks for listening to the
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• 3:29:09
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• 3:29:13
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• 3:29:17
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