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  Speaker 1: A neat little house, picture perfect smiles, the kind of
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  Speaker 1: in magazines, not in police files. But they looked like
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  Speaker 1: a dream, like the dream, young, attractive and confident, but
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  Speaker 1: behind closed doors, beneath the rehearse charm and the fairy
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  Speaker 1: tale life, something was off. And these monsters didn't just
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  Speaker 1: hide in the shadows, they were center stage in the spotlight.
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  Speaker 1: This is the story of the Barbie and Ken Killers, crime, conspiracy, coats,
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  Speaker 1: let's get back to it. Tammy Lynn Homolka was born
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  Speaker 1: in Port Credit, Mississauga, Ontario, on New Year's Day, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy five. It was a birthday forever tied to celebration
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  Speaker 1: and the promise of new beginnings, as she would be
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  Speaker 1: the youngest of three. Carla came first, and then Lori
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  Speaker 1: would follow, and then Tammy arrived five years after Carla,
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  Speaker 1: quickly defining her place as the baby in the family.
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  Speaker 1: And as a child, she was always moving. She ran
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  Speaker 1: and played and competed, and sports came very naturally to her,
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  Speaker 1: and people noticed her abilities really early on, so athletics
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  Speaker 1: were a part of her identity at that point, and
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  Speaker 1: her childhood as a whole appeared very stable and unremarkable
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  Speaker 1: in the best way. And her and her family would
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  Speaker 1: go on vacations, and those vacations were spent out on
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  Speaker 1: Ostler Lake. Sorry I'm saying that wrong, where they would
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  Speaker 1: pass the days with swimming and campfires and shared meals.
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  Speaker 1: Just a simple kind of life, but beautiful. And Tammy
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  Speaker 1: looked up to her older sisters, especially Carla, and she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be near her, constantly following her around admiring
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  Speaker 1: everything that she did. But Carla, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: tried keeping her distance more just tolerating her rather than
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  Speaker 1: embracing her, which is a pretty common sisterly dynamic, especially
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  Speaker 1: around that age. She just wanted her independence. She didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be a babysitter all the time. So by
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety Tammy was already fifteen years old, a Grade
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  Speaker 1: ten student at Sir Winston Churchill Secondary School in Saint
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  Speaker 1: Catharine's and her life followed a very steady schedule of
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  Speaker 1: school during the week and sports whenever she could possibly
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  Speaker 1: play them, and soccer was her true biggest passion, but
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  Speaker 1: she also loved track and field and cross country and
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  Speaker 1: she would obviously excel at all of them. But the
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  Speaker 1: Homolka household was welcoming and Carol Tammy's dad worked as
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  Speaker 1: a traveling salesman and he was known for his easygoing
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  Speaker 1: manner and general friendliness, and he also had a really
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  Speaker 1: thick accent and a very contagious laugh. And Dorothy Tammy's
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  Speaker 1: mom worked as a hospital secretary and managed the home.
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  Speaker 1: And Carla Tammy's sister described her as a supermom, capable
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  Speaker 1: of anything and everything. So the family would move around
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  Speaker 1: a few times before settling on dun Donald Street in
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  Speaker 1: Saint Catharine's and they built a swimming pool in the
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  Speaker 1: backyard which became a gathering place in their home and
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  Speaker 1: people would constantly come over, making summers loud and really busy.
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  Speaker 2: But Christmas time.
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  Speaker 1: Was the true heart of the Homolka family calendar, because
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  Speaker 1: year after year the house would fill with relatives, neighbors, friends,
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  Speaker 1: and anyone that could attend. So the door was always
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  Speaker 1: open with Carol and and Dorothy ready to hand you
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  Speaker 1: a drink at any moment, And somewhere in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of all the merriment, a photo of the three sisters
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  Speaker 1: would be taken shouldered a shoulder, kneeling and smiling in
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  Speaker 1: front of the tree. And these sorts of photos filled
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  Speaker 1: their photo albums, and each daughter seemed to have her
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  Speaker 1: own role in the household, and Carla would be known
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  Speaker 1: as the smart one, and Laura would be the social one,
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  Speaker 1: and Tammy was the athlete, of course, and she would
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  Speaker 1: fully embody that role. And on top of that, Tammy
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  Speaker 1: was also outgoing and just full of enthusiasm and willing
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  Speaker 1: to fully throw herself into whatever she did. And also
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  Speaker 1: she was deeply, deeply caring, doing anything to help the
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  Speaker 1: ones she loves. So this holiday season was shaping up
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  Speaker 1: to be just like the rest The family was gathered
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  Speaker 1: on the evening of December third. Decorations were up and
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  Speaker 1: the home videos captured laughter and joyful moments. But at
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  Speaker 1: some point during the evening, Tammy ventured down to the
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  Speaker 1: basement wreck room, and Carla was there, and so was Paul.
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  Speaker 1: Paul was her fiance that had become a regular part
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  Speaker 1: of the family. And at this point in the night,
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  Speaker 1: Tammy's parents had gone to bed upstairs, and Laurie was
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  Speaker 1: elsewhere in the house. So Tammy's loved ones were all
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  Speaker 1: near the people she really trusted the most, and all
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  Speaker 1: seemed to be merry and bright. But before we get
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  Speaker 1: into what happened next, we need to understand who Carla
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  Speaker 1: really was. So the five years separation and age between
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  Speaker 1: Carla and Tammy shaped the relationship from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 1: By the time Tammy was old enough to follow her
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  Speaker 1: older sister around, Carla had already decided she existed on
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  Speaker 1: a whole different level. She was older, she was above
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  Speaker 1: it all, and even though they lived in the same
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  Speaker 1: house and answered to the same parents, in Carla's mind,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't live in the same world. Yet, when Carla
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  Speaker 1: suffered from asthma attacks, it was usually Tammy who stayed
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  Speaker 1: by her side, helping her through them, and Tammy would
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  Speaker 1: do anything for anyone, but especially for Carla. She looked
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  Speaker 1: up to her as an older sister, and as the
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  Speaker 1: girls got older, the Homolka household grew louder and busier,
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  Speaker 1: and boys started coming around more frequently, and anyone watching
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  Speaker 1: from the outside, it looked like a vibrant home full
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  Speaker 1: of outgoing teenage girls, and Carla was described as someone
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  Speaker 1: with deep sensitivities around rivalry and humiliation. She needed to
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  Speaker 1: feel superior, and as Tammy grew into adolescence, healthy and
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  Speaker 1: athletic and naturally likable in ways that Carla simply was not,
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  Speaker 1: the gap between them became harder to ignore. But Carla
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  Speaker 1: was the eldest daughter, and with that position come certain
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  Speaker 1: responsibilities and privileges, and by the time both her sisters arrived,
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  Speaker 1: she had become used to being the center of attention,
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  Speaker 1: and her childhood looked quite different from Tammy's, not because
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  Speaker 1: of a difference in parenting style, but due to her
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  Speaker 1: own interests and strengths, Because Carla wasn't drawn to the
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  Speaker 1: world of sports or physical activity, but instead enjoyed more
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  Speaker 1: intellectual pursuits. So while Tammy would effortlessly move through the
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  Speaker 1: outside world, Carla turned inward and she'd spend hours reading
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  Speaker 1: and drawing, building words in her head, controlling the stories.
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  Speaker 1: And her health also brought its shares of complications, because
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  Speaker 1: Carla suffered from chronic asthma, and the attacks could be
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  Speaker 1: rather serious, and sometimes it would be brought on by
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  Speaker 1: nothing more than excitement, and sometimes severe enough to land
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  Speaker 1: her in the hospital. But with illness came attention, and
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  Speaker 1: with pain came care, and at some point Carla learned
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  Speaker 1: a lesson about vulnerability. It could be a tool to
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  Speaker 1: make people focus on you. And she quickly demonstrated her
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  Speaker 1: intelligence in school, where her teachers recognized her smarts when
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  Speaker 1: she was still very young, and she would learn to
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  Speaker 1: read faster than most and later testing showed her IQ
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  Speaker 1: to be above one point thirty and her memory was
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  Speaker 1: exceptional and she just absorbed information like a sponge. And
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  Speaker 1: Carla also understood that she was different from those around her,
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  Speaker 1: and she believed she was special because of it, or better.
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  Speaker 2: Than people because of it.
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  Speaker 1: Because at one point, after Paul, Carla's fiance had entered
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  Speaker 1: the picture, Hemmy showed affection towards him, and the two
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  Speaker 1: sisters clashed openly, and whether CARLOA was consciously aware of
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  Speaker 1: any other building of resentment is impossible to know, but
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  Speaker 1: the groundwork was laid, so Carlo went to the same
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  Speaker 1: school Tammy would later attend Sir Winston Churchill Secondary School
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  Speaker 1: in Saint Catharine's, and she continued to thrive academically and
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  Speaker 1: teachers took a liking to her because she spoke up
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  Speaker 1: in class and carried herself with confidence, rarely seeming uncertain
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  Speaker 1: about anything. But she wasn't part of the popular crowd
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  Speaker 1: necessarily and had no interest in being part of it
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  Speaker 1: because she remember, she thought she was kind of above everyone,
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  Speaker 1: and in her mind she was just meant for something
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  Speaker 1: bigger or something beyond her classmates in current circumstances. So
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  Speaker 1: people who knew her in those years described her as
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  Speaker 1: stubborn and strong willed, and once Carla set her sights
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  Speaker 1: on something, she didn't let go until she had it,
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  Speaker 1: so she wasn't easily intimidated by anyone, and her interest
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  Speaker 1: shifted as she got older, and the childhood books gave
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  Speaker 1: way to romance novels than to miss novels, and she
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  Speaker 1: allegedly became obsessed with crime after discovering Nancy Drew and
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  Speaker 1: the Hardy Boys, and she started writing her own stories
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  Speaker 1: and a theme emerged, and nearly all of them centered
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  Speaker 1: on a girl who was adored a princess type claimed
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  Speaker 1: by someone who would never let her go. And when
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  Speaker 1: Carla became interested in something, she fully consumed it, and
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  Speaker 1: friends noticed the intensity and some found it unsettling. And
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  Speaker 1: she immersed herself in Michael Jackson's Thriller music video, watching
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  Speaker 1: it hundreds of times, and she wanted to be Olivia
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  Speaker 1: Newton John, dressing and dancing just like her. And there
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  Speaker 1: were incidents during those years that stuck with people, like
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  Speaker 1: she threw a friend's pet hamster from a second story
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  Speaker 1: window and it took the hamster two weeks to die afterwards,
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  Speaker 1: and Renya Carly's friend noted that she quote showed no
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  Speaker 1: remorse and looked like she enjoyed the whole thing unquote
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  Speaker 1: dear fucke God, and Carla later made rend you had
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  Speaker 1: dig up the hamster after it was buried so she
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  Speaker 1: could mess with it, red freakin' but and she also
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  Speaker 1: snuck out to dig up her cat, Mishka at one point,
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  Speaker 1: just to see what the dead body looked like, and
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, Carla projected a completely different image
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  Speaker 1: because she loved animals and talked about wanting to become
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  Speaker 1: a veterinarian someday, and in class she refused to harm insects,
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  Speaker 1: even dissecting a worm, and she once told some boys
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  Speaker 1: in her class, quote, you shouldn't kill it. It's wrong
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  Speaker 1: to kill anything unquote, when they were about to step
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  Speaker 1: on a beetle. So to anyone on the outside, she
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  Speaker 1: seemed very gentle and compassionate. But both versions of Carla
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  Speaker 1: existed at once, and she experienced mood swings, and one
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  Speaker 1: friend noted quote, at times she seemed elated, and at
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  Speaker 1: other times she would hardly speak at all for weeks
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  Speaker 1: at a time unquote. And by her mid teens, she
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  Speaker 1: had started experimenting with sex and with drugs and with
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  Speaker 1: older boys, and relationships came and went quickly because she
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  Speaker 1: got bored pretty easily, because what she wanted was something
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  Speaker 1: that felt bigger than ordinary life, something exciting in her eyes,
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  Speaker 1: and she even formed the exclusive Diamond Club with her friends,
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  Speaker 1: where they talked about moving to California and a rich
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  Speaker 1: man's engagement ring would be their ticket to anywhere outside
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  Speaker 1: of Saint Catharine's. And she also found interest in the occult,
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  Speaker 1: reading books about witchcraft, and her favorite book was allegedly
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  Speaker 1: about Satanic and by the time she was seventeen, Carla
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  Speaker 1: had taken a job at a pet shop inside the
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  Speaker 1: Penn Center Mall, so perfectly aligning with the vision of herself.
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  Speaker 1: She wanted people to see as responsible, intelligent, and gentle
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  Speaker 1: with animals. And then she would finish high school and
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  Speaker 1: receive acceptance letters from universities, but turned them all down
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  Speaker 1: because university just felt too slow for her, too confining
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  Speaker 1: that she wanted more. She just always wanted more. And
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  Speaker 1: around the same time, her relationship with her father began
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  Speaker 1: to worsen. She saw him as weak, a man who
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  Speaker 1: didn't measure up to the life she had already started
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  Speaker 1: imagining for herself, because she wanted a man who could
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  Speaker 1: fulfill her fantasies that had been living in her mind
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  Speaker 1: for as long as she could remember. In growing up,
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  Speaker 1: Carla had collected dozens of Barbie and Ken dolls and
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  Speaker 1: she loved everything about them quote because everything about them
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  Speaker 1: was just so perfect, from Barbie's hair to house, even
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  Speaker 1: her underwear. It was a wonderful pretend family in a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful pretend world unquote, and now in her teens, she
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  Speaker 1: projected that perfection and pure image to the outside world. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: she continued exploring her sexuality with a special appreciation for kinkies,
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  Speaker 1: trying out handcuffs and more. And Carla would love dirty
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  Speaker 1: talk quote unquote. And even with that pristine outer facing image,
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  Speaker 1: later psychiatric evaluations would claim, quote, Amolka remains something of
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  Speaker 1: a diagnostic mystery. Despite her ability to present herself very well,
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  Speaker 1: there is a moral emptiness in her which is difficult,
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  Speaker 1: if not impossible, to explain unquote. So by the fall
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  Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty seven, Carla's desperation for something greater was
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  Speaker 1: at an all time high. But little did she know
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  Speaker 1: she was about to meet Paul Bernardo. So Paul Kenneth
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  Speaker 1: Bernardo was born the youngest of three kids, on August
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventh, nineteen sixty four, in Scarborough, Ontario, and on paper,
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  Speaker 1: the Bernardo seemed respectable. His father, Kenneth, worked as an accountant,
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  Speaker 1: while his mother, Marilyn, had grown up in a stable,
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  Speaker 1: affluent household after being adopted as a young child. But
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  Speaker 1: inside the home it was a different story entirely. Kenneth
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  Speaker 1: was violent and verbally cruel, and he belittled his wife openly,
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  Speaker 1: calling her a bitch and a big fat cow. But
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  Speaker 1: that was the least of his offenses because he was
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  Speaker 1: a predator, because in nineteen seventy five he was charged
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  Speaker 1: with child mon and he was known around the neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: as a peeping tom. And he even used his own daughter,
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  Speaker 1: and he even essayed his his own daughter, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: in front of other family members. This man was a monster,
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  Speaker 1: So the abuse didn't happen in secret. It happened openly
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  Speaker 1: and brazenly, as if the rules that governed other families
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  Speaker 1: simply didn't apply to theirs. So he made no effort
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  Speaker 1: to hide it, and no one stopped him either. And
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  Speaker 1: the neighbors knew him too for who he truly was.
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  Speaker 1: They called him a peeping tom because they would catch
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  Speaker 1: him lurking outside windows after dark.
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  Speaker 2: The police are a thing in this in this era.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on here?
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  Speaker 1: Call the cops, And luckily someone did, and in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy five he was charged with child mind after asaying
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  Speaker 1: a girl who lived nearby. So the household Paul grew
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  Speaker 1: up in was dysfunctional to say the least. It was
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  Speaker 1: actually just predatory, and young Paul was watching, and young
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  Speaker 1: Paul was learning absorbing lessons about what men were allowed
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  Speaker 1: to do in his mind and about what they could
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  Speaker 1: get away with. And Maryland, for her part, battled severe
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  Speaker 1: depression and anxiety, and as the years passed, she pulled
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  Speaker 1: further and further away from the family, becoming isolated. But
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  Speaker 1: the most damaging truth of all remained buried, because Paul
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  Speaker 1: was not actually Chemist's biological son, because Marilyn had conceived
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  Speaker 1: him during an affair years earlier, and the secret had
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  Speaker 1: been kept from Paul his entire childhood. Yet even before
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  Speaker 1: anyone told him, Paul seemed to sense something was off,
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  Speaker 1: because he always felt like he didn't quite belong, like
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  Speaker 1: he was being treated differently, and that unease would never
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  Speaker 1: leave him. And despite the chaos at home, doors Paul
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  Speaker 1: learned to perform, and he was polite and smiled easily,
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  Speaker 1: and adults found him charming and well mannered, and he
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  Speaker 1: joined the Scouts and earned the Chief Scout award even
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  Speaker 1: and he later worked as a camp counselor, where parents
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  Speaker 1: trusted him and the kids loved him, But there were
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  Speaker 1: early signs, and around the age of ten, he and
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  Speaker 1: friends started setting fires with magnifying glasses, and he learned
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  Speaker 1: very early how to split himself in two, and the
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  Speaker 1: gap between the boy people saw and the life he
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  Speaker 1: actually lived became one of the defining features of who
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  Speaker 1: he really was, similar to who Barla but Paul went
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  Speaker 1: to Sir Wilfrid Laurier High School in Scarborough and graduated
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, and from there he enrolled at
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  Speaker 1: the University of Toronto's Scarborough Campus to study accounting, following
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  Speaker 1: in his father's footsteps and physically he drew attention. As
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  Speaker 1: a tall, blonde, impeccably groomed young man, he looked like
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  Speaker 1: someone people trusted instinctively, not me. I don't trust adult
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  Speaker 1: blonde men out of the gate, at least I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it is. I just don't, okay, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of us Canna gree If you're an
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  Speaker 1: adult man with blonde hair, sorry this doesn't apply to you.
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  Speaker 1: You're a good person if you watch this show automatically anyway.
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  Speaker 1: But before college, at the age of sixteen, Paul's world
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  Speaker 1: would shift, and during a heated argue between his parents,
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  Speaker 1: Marilyn told Paul the truth about his father. Kenneth was
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  Speaker 1: not his real dad, and Paul met the situation with
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  Speaker 1: immediate disgust, followed by rage, and he turned on his mother,
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  Speaker 1: hurling the same degrading insults he had spent his childhood
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  Speaker 1: hearing inside of the house, and the revelation did more
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  Speaker 1: than just anger him. It shattered the already fragile foundation
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  Speaker 1: of his identity because for years Paul said something was off,
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  Speaker 1: that he was treated differently, and that he didn't quite belong,
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  Speaker 1: and now he understood why, because he wasn't Kenneth's son.
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  Speaker 1: He was a product of his mother's affair, living proof
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  Speaker 1: of her betrayal. So the man who had raised him,
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  Speaker 1: the man whose footsteps he had followed into accounting, wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even his real father, And some who studied Paul later
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  Speaker 1: would point to this moment as a psychological turning point,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the moment when whatever fragile sense of self he had
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: constructed just came apart and something darker took place, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: he began calling his mother the horror of the world,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and she would call him a bastard from hell. God.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: This family, it's just evil, bad family.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So the words just became weapons, and the damage was permanent,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and control became the defining feature in his relationships, and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: girlfriends from those early years would later describe him as
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: possessive and domineering, because when a young woman tried to
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: end things with Paul, Paul responded by violently destroying her
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: things in a fire. Can't imagine why she broke up
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: with you, Paul, That's crazy. But this behavior only intensified
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: with time, and by his early twenties a clear pattern
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: started to emerge. Because Paul was everything a partner could want.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: At the start, he was attentive and generous and charming
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: what we would call now love bombing, and he impressed
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the families and warmed up to them, playing the role
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: of the ideal boyfriend with decision. But once he felt
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: secure in the relationship, but once he believed he had control,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the abuse would start and he'd humiliate them in public.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Then he'd escalate his aggression in bed, and then the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: relationships would become more and more violent, and he'd threatened
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to kill them if they ever told people about the abuse,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and some of the women he dated had the courage
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to go to the police, thank goodness, and restraining orders
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: were filed, but still nothing stopped him. So Paul's understanding
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: of women was built entirely around domination. He was never
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: looking for a partner. He only wanted someone to control,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and during his university years he shared fantasies with friends
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that went far beyond troubling, including the virgin farm fantasy,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: which he described to his friend Van initially as a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: quote stockpile of women that he wanted to have with
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: him unquote, but eventually became a place that he would
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: braid virgin girls to disgusting, So he spoke about women
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: as though they were objects, and a friend, Alex Smyrnas,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: mentioned that Paul quote preferred women who were petite, small,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and not too brite unquote, and also said that he
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: quote often had two or more girls on the go
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: at the same time unquote. So his real world behavior
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: grew increasingly more violent, and he'd demand total submission during sex,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: getting pleasure from causing pain. So he's a sadist, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: he'd referred to himself as the king and expected his
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: partners to treat themselves as servants, and their fear and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: their discomfort and their suffering excited him. But to the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: outside world, Paul appeared to be succeeding. After finishing his degree,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: he landed a position as a junior accountant at a
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: respected firm, and he dressed well and spoke with confidence,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and invested heavily in his image, and he bought all
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: sorts of self improvement and get rich materials, implementing them
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: at his job and at bars when he would try
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: out new pickup techniques. But behind the image, he had
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: already become a predator. And before Carla ever entered his life,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Paul had been attacking women, and not just the ones
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: he was dating, young women teenage girls. He stalked them
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: after dark, often near bus stops in quiet neighborhoods, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: he used a knife to make them cooperate, and during
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the assaults he talked constantly, demanding specific words from his
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: victims to total incomplete submission from them, because control alone
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't enough for him. He needed absolute domination. And at
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a local bar one evening, an acquaintance recalled that he
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: even quote started talking about committing the perfect murder and quote,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: if you were ever to kill someone and wanted to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: dispose of the body, cut the body up, put it
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: in cement and drop it in the river. Unquote.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: That is what Paul would say to this acquaintance.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: So by day he played the part of an ambitious
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: young professional, but by night he prowled the same Scarborough
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: streets where he had grown up. So Paul and Carla
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: first cross paths in October of nineteen eighty seven at
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a hotel restaurant in Scarborough, and Carla was there for
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a pet convention, and she was seventeen and Paul was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: twenty three, and the attraction between them was immediate, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: within hours of meeting they were alone in a hotel room,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and by the time the night ended, they had slept together.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But unlike Paul's usual routine, he didn't disappear afterward, and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: he actually kept in touch.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And to Carla, Paul.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Seemed like everything she had been waiting for. He was
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: older and successful, and he had money and spent it freely,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: making her feel chosen, and she'd later say that she
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: knew almost immediately that she was going to marry him.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And to Paul, Carla represented something he had never encountered before.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: She was young and eager, but most importantly, she was receptive.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Other women backed away.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: From his darker impulses, but Carla didn't resist. She leaned
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: in validating him. She participated willingly, just a couple of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: in psychopath monsters. Because Paul had spent years learning how
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to identify women who might embrace domination, and in Carla
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: he found a partner, and by the time their lives
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: became intertwined, Paul was already a dangerous man living two lives,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: but now, for the first time, he wouldn't be operating alone.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So the relationship between Paul and Carla outwardly looked like
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a whirldwind romance. They became inseparable almost from the moment
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: they met, and Paul drove hours to see her, and
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Carla rearranged her entire life to accommodate him, and Paul
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: played his part lawlessly. He paid attention to her, showered
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: her with gifts, took her to upscale restaurants, and spoke
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to her as though she were the only woman in
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the world love bombing, and Carla gave herself over to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: him completely, and she described a perfect relationship in letters
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to her friends, saying, quote, Paul and I are happier
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: than ever. He's being so great, so romantic, but that's
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: typical of my honey unquote, But there were no red
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: flags in her own telling. She was all in, and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: early in the relationship, Paul even asked her, quote, what
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: would she think if he was a whist.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Red flag there? Carla?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, monster, and she would think it was cool. I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: have no words, And according to one account, he started
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to ask women in earnest after that conversation. But the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: relationship continued progressing quickly, and the two were engaged on
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a Sember twenty fourth, nineteen eighty nine. And the Homolka
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: family saw nothing alarming either, because Paul was always polite
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: when he came around, terming not only Carla but all
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of them as well, and he fit right into their
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: family gathering seamlessly. But what none of them could see
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: was how quickly affection had already begun to turn into
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: something else, and behind closed doors things changed quickly. Paul
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: introduced violence into their sex life almost from the beginning,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: framing it as exploration, and Carla went along with it willingly,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: even enthusiastically at times, and Paul documented what they did together,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and he took pictures of their acts, and Carla happily
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: posed for them and none were taken without her awareness
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: or consent. Note that she consented to all of this
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and was enthusiastic about that all right. And one picture
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in particular showed the two intimate while he strangled her
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: with a rope and held a knife to her head.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And Stephen Williams's, author of Invisible Darkness, describes quote Carla
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: handcuffed on her knees and begging for him was scratching
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: an itch unquote. And friends of Carla's discovered handcuffs in
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: her bedroom, and when they asked about them, she casually
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: explained that Paul enjoys playing games in bed, and the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: violence only escalated from there. And Paul allegedly began hitting
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Carla during arguments in addition to during sexual encounters. So
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: his need for control bled into every corner of her
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: life and dictating what she wore, how she styled herself,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: what she ate, and how she behaved, and he constantly
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: insulted her, calling her ugly and qu fat, and Carla
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: absorbed those insults, even writing them down. So no, I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: don't obviously agree with him calling her those names, and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I feel bad that he called her those names, but
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not letting her off just because she stayed in
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: this relationship, and we're gonna get into it more, but
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna let you paint your own picture
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of what's going on, all right. But she would treat
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: these insults like instructions, rules for how to stay in
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: his good graces, and she even wrote a self improvement list,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: quote be a perfect girlfriend for Paul. Remember you're stupid,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Remember you're ugly, Remember your fat. I don't know why
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I tell you these things because you never change unquote
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: very sad, very sad.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: But also I don't feel bad.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: For her because what she's gonna do, I I don't know.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And because Carla never tried to leave, She didn't go
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to the police or confide in friends or family. She
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: just adapted her behavior to meet his expectations. And it
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't in a Stockholm syndrome type way, because I do
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: have empathy for women that are stuck in relationships like
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that and they actually think those things about themselves, and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they like they can't get out. This isn't this is
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: not the same thing. Let me make that so very clear. Okay,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: there might be a tiny, little small element of that,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: but that does not rid her of the things that
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: she will commit because Carla was not passive, and she
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: absolutely was not helpless, and in other areas of her
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: life she remained confident and assertive. So the relationship was abusive,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: no question, but it was not a simple dynamic of
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: predator and prey. The motivation and participation seemed to run
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: in both directions. So as the relationship grew stronger, Carla
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: noticed something Paul paid special attention to, and that was Tammy,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: her younger sister. He was always watching her and finding
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: excuses to be near her, and Paul later confirmed that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: his attraction to Tammy quote unquote began in July of
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety so that summer his demands escalated and he
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: told Carla he wanted to have sex with Tammy, and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Carla would later testify that she was quote totally against
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the eye idea unquote bombastic side eye in Carla right
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: now and and you'll understand that later on. But she
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: claimed Paul threatened her and hit her and wore her
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: down over time. You there's nothing you could do to
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: me that would force me to let you do something
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to my sister. You would have to kill me before
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that happened. So shut the f up.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Carla.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You know I'm getting angry in this one. I'm sorry
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I'm getting angry in this one because the evidence tells
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a completely different story. Also because Paul's obsession with Tammy
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: would deepen and he started looking through Tammy's bedroom window
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and he would enter her room at night to map
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: it while she slept, and Carla even helped by breaking
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the windows in her sister's room to give him access monster.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But Paul's focus was singular, and that was virginity, because
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Carla wasn't a virgin when they met, and he never
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: let her forget it, and he called her used goods
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: and in his mind, this meant that Carla owed him
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: something and she had taken something from him and now
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: she needed to give it back. And he would actually
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: make her wear Tammy's clothes during their sexual encounters and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: had her say specific things like my name is Tammy,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I'm fifteen years old, I'm your virgin, and I want
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to marry you. This it just gets It's just if
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: there wasn't already a trigger warning. I apologize, here's a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: trigger warning, like it will just get worse from here.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: But for a sister to be okay with that, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to stay in a relationship with someone that is willing
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to just put their own sister in the situation, it
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: just makes me.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: It makes me.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Ill, It makes me sick to my stomach. But that
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: resentment eventually turned into a demand, and so Carla agreed
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to give Paul what he wanted, and she promised him
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: her sister as a gift to satisfy him and secure
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the relationship, and Paul insisted Tammy would never know that
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: it'd be brief and no real harm would come from it,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and she believed him, and Carla later framed her reasoning
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: as a way to minimize risk and take control and
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: keep it all in the family instead of allowing Paul
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to seek out other young girls who might expose him.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: So she's protecting him by letting him her sister instead
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of letting him get exposed, instead of reporting him before
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: he can do anything to anybody else. So, yeah, you're
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: equally the monster, Carla and criminal profile or Candace Scrappic
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: offered a different interpretation, and like myself, she believed Carla
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: was a malignant narcissist who couldn't handle her fiance's attraction
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to her younger sister, ding Ding Ding, we have a winner.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: And her solution was simple, remove Tammy from the equation,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and Carla chose to prioritize her relationship with Paul over
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: her sister's safety.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: But the first.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Attempt came months before the final plan was set, and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: in July of nineteen ninety, they made a spaghetti dinner
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: for Tammy and laced it with valium that Carla had
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: taken from her workplace, and while Tammy was sedated, Paul
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: did as ever for roughly a minute, and it was
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: only a minute because the meds weren't strong enough and
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: she started waking up and they had to stop then.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: But they didn't abandon the idea fully. They just knew
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: they had to get stronger meds now. So Carlo went
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: back to the Martindale Animal Clinic in Saint Catharine's and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: stole a bottle of halithane, which is a liquid general
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: anesthetic designed for use on animals, and it's been described
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: as quote twice as potent as chloroform and four times
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: as potent as ether unquote, And she also secured a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: supply of halcion, a strong sedative, by filling a fraudulent prescription.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: So as someone who worked with these drugs, Carla understood
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: what she was handling, and she understood what she was
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: about to put in her sister's body, and she knew
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the potency and the drugs and the risks. Yet she
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: moved forward anyway, and Paul chose the night himself, December
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: twenty third, nineteen ninety. Quote, this is the day I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: want to do this, unquote, he would tell Carla, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: quote it would be a great Christmas present for me unquote.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Just just chills in the worst way. So they would
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: invite Tammy down to the basement while the whole family slept,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: just days away from Christmas, and they would drug Tammy
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and Paul would have his way with her. As to Paul,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: this was something he had earned, something Carla owed him.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: So the two of them made their preparations without any
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: second thoughts, and the drugs were secured and the video
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: camera was ready, and Tammy, now just over a week
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: away from turning sixteen, suspected nothing. So December twenty third,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety began like any other holiday gathering.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: At the Humolka household.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: The Christmas decorations were already up and the house hummed
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: with conversation, with everyone preparing for their favorite time of year,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and the whole family was there that evening, Carol and Dorothy, Laurie,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Carla and Carla's fiance, Paul, and Paul had brought his
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: new video camera and he recorded the scene as it unfolded,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: mister and Missus Simulka, the three daughters, the tree, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the decorations, and as a party wound down and it
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: started getting late. Carol and Dorothy had it upstairs to bed,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and Laurie would do the same, but Carla encouraged Tammy
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to stay up a little longer. They could watch a
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: movie together, just the three of them in the basement
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: wreck room. And throughout the evening, Carla and Paul kept
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Tammy's glass full of rum and eggnog and they would
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: just hand it to her casually, like it was nothing.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And what Tammy didn't know was that her drinks had
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: been spiked with crushed halcion. And Tammy had no reason
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to feel afraid. She was in her own home. She
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: felt the safest she ever felt, surrounded by the people
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: she trusted most, and she had no way of knowing
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: that trust would be used against her, so the drug's
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: effects began to take hold, and combined with the alcohol
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Tammy had been consuming throughout the evening, it completely knocked
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: her out unconscious, so she slumped onto the basement couch.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: So everything was unfolding exactly as Carla and Paul had planned,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and that's when Carla went to grab the hal offane
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: she had stolen, because it's supposed to be given using
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a vaporizer, inserting a breathing tube, and keeping resuscitation equipment
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: nearby in case of emergency. That's how serious this drug is.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But of course she disregarded all of those protocols and
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: instead she soaked a cloth in liquid anesthetic and pressed
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it directly against her younger sister's face, and both Paul
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and Carla would as her and they would also record it,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: passing the camera back and forth between them and upstairs.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: The rest of the.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Homewulk of family slept through it all and no one
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: heard anything out of place, and no one came downstairs
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to check. And at some point during the assault, Tammy
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: would stop breathing. In moments after they finished, Tammy started vomiting,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and she was still unconscious, and the sedatives and the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: anesthetic had numbed her reflexes, so she tried to breathe,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: but only managed to draw vomit down into her lungs,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: So Carla and Paul would scramble to bring her back,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and Carla would try the same technique used at the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: vet clinic, holding her sister upside down in an attempt
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: to clear the blockage from her throat, but nothing helped
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: because Tammy was too drugged and she would not wake up,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and the vomiting, as doctor Ray Matthews and anasthesiologist later
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: said in testimony, was most likely a direct result of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the hallathane exposure, and a pharmaceutical guidebook later recovered from
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the Bernardo residents explicitly identified nausea and vomiting as a
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: known side effect of the drug. And on top of that,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Tammy had been on her period that evening and menstruaining
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: women face elevated risks of post anesthetic vomiting, a fact
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that some one with Carla's veterinary background may have been
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: aware of. As if all of this wasn't horrid enough,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: So Carla understood that halathane was a high risk substance,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and she knew full well that it required specialized equipment
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to be used safely, and she knew what could happen
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: with those precautions. And among the documented outcomes of halathane
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: overdose is death. And what Paul and Carla had treated
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: as just a quick thing had become final quote unquote,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: no real harm had become the ultimate harm. But they
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: did not call nine one one, at least not right away,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and they didn't rush upstairs to alert her parents or Laurie,
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  Speaker 1: So the assault most likely concluded sometime between eleven thirty
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: PM at midnight but the call for the ambulance didn't
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: go out until one eighteen am, leaving roughly an hour
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: unaccounted four and during that window Paul and Carlo worked quickly.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: They dressed Tammy's body, carried her from the recreation room
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to her basement bedroom, hid the tape, ran laundry, and
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: cleaned up everything that they could. Now by the time
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: they were finished, the basement told a different story than
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the one that had actually unfolded there. And paramedics arrived
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: at the house at one twenty five am to find
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Tammy on responsive quote all vital signs absent unquote, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: her pupils were quote fully fixated and dilated unquote, And
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: they did what they could, inserting a breathing tube and
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: connecting a heart monitor, and they delivered shocks to her
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: heart at one twenty nine am, again at one thirty
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: one AM, and once more at one thirty three am,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: but the monitor never registered anything beyond a flat line,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and Tammy was rushed to Saint Catherine's General Hospital, where
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: she would be pronounced dead without ever regaining consciousness, and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Paul and Carlaw offered the same explanation to everyone who asked.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Tammy had too much to drink, causing her to vomit
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: in her sleep and stop breathing, and doctors initially accepted
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: that explanation when their own conclusion matched the story, And
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: when investigators asked about the physical burn mark on Tammy's face,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Paul had an answer ready. He said it was a
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: carpet burn, caused by dragging her across the floor while
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: trying to save her life. So what was supposed to
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: be a one wonderful holiday celebration had now taken an
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: unthinkable turn, and Christmas passed filled with shock and grief.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: So Tammy would be buried, and at the funeral, witnesses
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: observed Paul standing beside the open casket, and they watched
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: him stroke Tammy's body, but somehow no suspicion was on
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: him or Carla, and the household slowly returned to routine,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: carrying this immense weight without understanding its true cause. So
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Tammy Lynn Homolka died on Christmas Eve inside of her
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: own home, surrounded by the people she believed she could trust,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and for years no one knew what really happened. So
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: immediately following Tammy's death, no one questioned the story they
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: had been told, and three months later local coroner Joseph
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Roslowski made it official. The cause of death was recorded
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: as quote exphyxia due to aspiration of stomach contents unquote,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and the classification was accidental. Case closed in medical profess.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Estionals determined that Tammy choked on her own vomit after drinking,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: just as the story was told, a tragic accident and
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: nothing more, And a halcion that had been dissolved into
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: her drinks was never detected, and the hall athane that
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: had been pressed against her face was never identified, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: no criminal investigation followed, and no suspicion fell on Paul
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: or Carla, and no one seemed to question their involvement either.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So the Homolkos were to bury their youngest daughter, believing
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: a lie and an incorrect determination of debt, and Carol
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: was barely functional in the aftermath, and Dorothy moved through
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: each day in a fog of disbelief, And together they
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: buried Tammy at Victorian Lawn Cemetery in Saint Catharine's and
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the investigation ended almost as quickly as it had begun,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and that, by all appearances, was supposed to be the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: end of it. But there were signs, questions that should
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: have been asked, details that didn't quite fit, and the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: most glaring of them was the burn on Tammy's face.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Ristmas Eve morning, police identification officer George Onick photographed Tammy's
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: body in the morgue, and the images showed a large,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: angry red mark covering nearly all of her left cheek.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: But the edges weren't soft, they were sharp, clearly an
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: outline that's not the kind of mark you'd expect from
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: friction against carpet. But still, the police accepted Paul's explanation,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: but according to one account, the original police report suggests
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: that neither Onik nor other officers fully believed the story,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and they doubted that a perfectly healthy teenage girl had
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: simply stopped breathing after drinking too much, and that the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: burn on her face was really caused by carpet. And
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: yet no one pursued it further. And the officer who
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: ultimately closed the file made a single note quote the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: source of the burn like lesions about the face remained
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: unexplained unquote, so he wrote it down and then he
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: closed the case. Anyway, it's infuriating and the drugs in
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Tammy's system went unto tech did because no one thought
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: to even look for them, and the preliminary toxicology.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Screen came back clean.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Because her death had been treated as accidental from the start,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: there was no reason to dig deeper. But the burn
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: told its own story, and years later, in nineteen ninety three,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Tammy's body was exhumed. Forensic pathologist doctor Noel mccauliffe conducted
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: a second autopsy and discovered traces of halcion still present
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: in her liver, kidneys, and intestines, evidence that had been
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: missed entirely the first time around, and doctor Vincent DeMaio,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: chief medical Examiner for Bexar County, Texas, reviewed the case
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, examining the Morgue photographs of
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Tammy's face closely, and his conclusion was clear the injury
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: was not caused by carpet. The quote unquote clearly demarcated
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: edges demarket. It just means that they're clearly defined, he explained.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Indicated that halathane quote unquote had pooled beneath Tammy's cheek,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: suggesting a significant amount of the drug had soaked through
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the cloth made sustained contact with her skin, and the
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: smaller lesions visible around her nose and mouth were consistent
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: with a quote a hand pushing the cloth against the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: face unquote. And he further suggested that quote and expiring
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Tammy may have lain in this condition for some time unquote.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And doctor David King, the pathologist who signed Tammy's second
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: autopsy report, came to a similar conclusion, and he confirmed
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: that halothane had caused the chemical burn and directly contradicted
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Carla's later testimony. Quote, You're not going to get halathane
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: burn by waving a halothaane soaked rag several inches away
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: from the skin unquote, you would say. And as for
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the original ruling exphyxiation due to aspiration of stomach contents,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: demaioh was blunt.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Quote.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Aspiration is a bullshit diagnosis. We never sign anybody out
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: of here with that as the cause of death as
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: a finding. It's meaningless unquote, which again is infuriating that
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that went through. But sadly none of this came to
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: light at the time, and in nineteen ninety one, every
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: one of these threads went unpursued, and no one examined
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the circumstances with enough scrutiny to challenge the story that
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: had been offered, so that lack of suspicion became self
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: perpetuating because the death had been classified as accidental, so
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: no deeper investigation was ever launched, and because no investigation
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: was launched, no evidence of wrongdoing was ever uncovered, and
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: much of the physical evidence from that night was eventually
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: disposed of and onyx photo negatives were filed away and forgotten,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: much like the situation as a whole. So Paul and
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Carla faced no consequences whatsoever, and they resumed their lives
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: almost immediately. Paul went back to his work and his routines,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: and Carla stayed by his side, and if anything, their
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: relationship just grew stronger, which is disgusting because what they
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: had done together had forged a new kind of bond
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: between them, a shared secret, a shared crime, and neither
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: showed any visible sign of remorse. In less than two
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: months after Timmy's death that Carla wrote a letter to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: a friend expressing frustration with her parents, mourning, saying, quote,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: my father doesn't even want us to have a wedding anymore. Unquote,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: she complained, quote screw that we're having a good time.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: If he wants to sit at home and be miserable,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: he's welcome to. He's only worked a day since Tammy died.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: He's wallowing in his own misery, unquote. Just a beast
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of a woman. And some sources say they left willingly
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and others say they were kicked out, but either way
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: they relocated to a rented bungalow in Port Dalhousie, and
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the fact that they weren't caught or even suspected just
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: emboldened them. And the most terrible thing they had ever
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: done had gone completely undetected because the system had believed
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: their story and the world had moved on, and they
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: had learned a dangerous lesson they could get away with it,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and according to author Stephen Williams, that lesson was put
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: into practice almost immediately and barely three weeks after Tammy's death.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: After they murdered Tammy, Paul abducted another girl during the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: weekend of January twelfth, nineteen ninety one, and he would
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: esk her well. Carla watched, and afterward he abandoned her
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: on a deserted road near Lake Gibson, and they referred
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: to her as January Girl and then on April sixth,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, Paul targeted a fourteen year old girl
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: who had been training for a local rowing team. A
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: blond woman waved at the girl from a parked car,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: catching her attention, distracting her just long enough for Paul
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: to drag her into a nearby shrubbery and ask her.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And the blonde woman was, of course, Carla, So what
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: happened to Tammy was only the beginning, and no one
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: was paying attention. But before they had moved out, while
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the family was still deep in mourning, Paul and Carla
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: recorded a video together and they called it the Fireside Chat,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: and it was filmed in the basement recreation room, the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: same room where Tammy had suffered, and on camera, Carla
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: admitted to Paul that she had enjoyed watching him her sister,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and she told him she wanted to leave a rose
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: at Tammy's grave site. And then the filming moved to
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Tammy's bedroom and Carla put on her dead sister's clothes,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: pretending to be Tammy, and she and Paul had relations
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: on Tammy's bed, and during the recording, Carla pitched a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: new idea, and she suggested they begin abducting girls together
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and keep them as slaves. And Paul asked when they
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: should start, and Carla responded, this summer, because the winter
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: time is too hard. They're like, this is like the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: epitome of evil. Like at the point of this recording,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: all this Epstein stuff is going on, and this is
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: just like, this is evil. Doesn't seem believable, but it
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: is so prevalent and sough.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Just widespread. It makes me want to vomit. It is
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: so sickening.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: So in nineteen ninety one, there was a girl who
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: moved within the same social circles as Carla, and she
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: was someone Carla knew personally, someone who trusted her. Her
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: identity has been shielded by court order, now referred to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: only as Jane Doe, so I will be referring to
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: her as Jane Doe. And she was fifteen years old
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: at the time, the same age Tmmy had been when
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: she passed away, And like Carla, Jane worked at a
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: pet shop and they had met when Jane was just
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: thirteen and Carla was six years older. So Jane Carla
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: seemed like just the kind of woman a young teenager
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: might admire and want to emulate, and according to one account,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Jane quote idolized the pretty older woman unquote, but she
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: had no idea who Carla really was, and despite their
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: relationship seeming strong on the outside, Carla had fears that
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: she was losing Paul to a woman he had recently
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: met on a trip, So naturally, her solution was to
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: find another virgin to present to him as a wedding
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: gift for their upcoming special day, Carla and Paul and
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Jane began spending more time together, though Jane was unaware
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: that she had been identified as a target, and Jane's mother,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Mary Doe, felt uneasy from the beginning, and she couldn't
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: figure out why a grown, married couple would take such
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: an interest in a teenage girl so much younger than themselves.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Quote where were their friends? Unquote, she'd later ask, and
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: missus Dowe tried to intervene, and she screened her daughter's
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: phone calls and monitored the answering machine, and she did
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: what she could to limit contact between Jane and the couple,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And when Paul began giving Jane gifts, her mother confronted
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: him directly. They didn't need his generosity, she told him
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: they could afford to buy their daughter whatever she needed,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and his reply unsettled her, and he said, quote, I
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: like to give gifts to my girlfriends unquote. And Jane
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: was a teenager who still operated under the assumption that adults,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: especially familiar ones, could be trusted, so she spent time
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: with Carla and Paul without suspicion, and to her, Carla
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: was friendly and warm and there was nothing about their
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: interactions that suggested danger. So three weeks before Paul and
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Carla were scheduled to marry on June seventh, nineteen ninety one,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Carla invited Jane over for a girls' night out, and
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: afterwards she brought the teenager back to their house and
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: a familiar pattern began. Carla gave Jane drinks throughout the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: evening mixed with sedatives, the same method she used on
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Tammy six months earlier, and Jane trusted Carla and accepted
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the drinks willingly, and as the drugs took hold, Jane
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: grew drowsy, and when she lost consciousness, Carla called for
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Paul and his surprise wedding gift was ready, and together
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: they undressed her and Carla essayed her first, and then
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Paul and then again they recorded the entire thing, and
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the videotapes captured later would show Carla glancing up at
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the camera during the assault, smiling and blowing kisses. There
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: was zero evidence of hesitation or reluctance, and when the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: assault was over, Jane was allowed to regain consciousness and
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: she was returned to her surroundings as if nothing had happened,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: and the attack mirrored what had happened to Tammy in
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: nearly every aspect except that Jane survived, thankfully, but she
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: had no idea what had occurred while she was unconscious,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and Paul and Carla intended to keep it that way,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: so Jane woke up the following morning feeling sick and sore.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Something felt wrong, but she didn't know why. The drugs
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: had erased her memory entirely, so the friendship just continued,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and Jane still believed Carlo was someone she could trust,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and she even accompanied Paul and Carla on a trip
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: to Toronto in the weeks that followed, and then in August,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Carla invited Jane back to the house once again for
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: another sleepover, and they drugged her again, but this time
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: with both Halcion and hell Athane, and just like with Tammy,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: something went wrong. Jane stopped breathing and Carla dialed nine
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: one one while Paul tried to resuscitate her, and this
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: time it worked and Jane started breathing again, and Carla
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: called back to cancel the ambulance, telling the dispatcher that
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: everything was all right, and there was no follow up
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: and the nine one one call was never investigated, and
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Jane still had no idea what had happened to her.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: And in the weeks that followed, Jane remained close to Carla,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: close enough to be invited to their wedding. So on
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: June twenty ninth, nineteen ninety one, Jane attended Paul and
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Carla's ceremony at Saint Mark's Angelican Church, and she watched
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: them exchange vows, and she celebrated with them at the reception,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: and she had no idea that just three weeks earlier,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: she had been drugged and violated by that very couple
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: standing at the altar, And she had no idea that
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: she was the wedding gift Carla had promised Paul. And
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: she had no idea that somewhere across town, divers were
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: pulling pieces of another young woman from a lake. She
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: was just smiling in photographs at the wedding, and she
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: went home that night believing she had witnessed the beginning
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: of a fairy tale. But she couldn't have been more wrong.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: So from the fall of nineteen ninety one through Christmas
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety two, she continued visiting Carla and Paul
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: quote unquote, usually every weekend, according to her later testimony,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: and the visits included ongoing sex contact, and Jane told
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: the court that Paul had made it clear quote if
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't keep him happy, Carla wouldn't be happy. And
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I wanted to keep Carla happy unquote, And at one
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: point Paul asked her to promise that he would be
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: quote the first man she had said with unquote, and
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: she agreed, having no idea that he had already violated
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: that promise while she was unconscious. So in December, Carla
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: tried to pressure Jane into having set with Paul while
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: she was awake, and Jane refused and left the house upset,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: and the relationship finally ended around Christmas of nineteen ninety two,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: when Jane told Paul she wasn't interested anymore. And he
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: reacted with anger, and she said, quote he said he
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: didn't want to see me again, unquote, and she walked away,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: still carrying confusion and discomfort. She couldn't fully name the time.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: No one understood how important her survival would become later.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: So Leslie Aaron Mahaffey was born in Hamilton, Ontario, on
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: July fifth, nineteen seventy six, and she lived in Burlington,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Ontario with her mother, her father, and her younger brother Ryan.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: And her father, Robert or Dan Mahaffey, worked as an
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: oceanographer for Canada's Department of Fisheries and Oceans, and the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: job took him away from home for stretches at a time,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: sometimes even weeks. And her mother, Debbie Mahaffe, was a teacher,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: and as a teenager, Debbie had undergone radiation treatment for
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: ovarian cancer and had been told she would never conceive.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: So Leslie was a miracle baby, and she shared a
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: close bond with her brother, and even during the times
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: when she tested the limits or pushed back against her parents,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: their bond was strong and she ran away on occasion,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: but she always called home and checked in with Ryan.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: And she was a Grade nine student at M. M.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Robinson High School, and Leslie and her circle of friends
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: recently were struggling with a sudden, devastating loss, as four
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: people close to her had been killed in a car accident,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: and one of them was a boy named Chris Evans,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and the weight of that tragedy hung over everything and
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: it would directly shape the events of the night to come.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: So on Friday, June fourteenth, nineteen ninety one, Leslie attended
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: a wake for Chris Evans at a local funeral home,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: and before she left, she promised her parents she would
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: be back home by eleven PM. But the night did
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: not go as planned, and after the service ended, Leslie
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: and a group of teenagers made their way into the
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: woods and they drank and they talked, and they leaned
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: on each other as they tried to process the loss
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: of the friend. And in the early morning hours, some
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: of Leslie's friends walked home and it was just before
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: two AM, so they waited while she checked the side
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: door of the house, but it was locked, and Leslie
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: assumed the front door would still be opened, so she
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: told her friends to go ahead, but the front door
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: was locked too, and some sources say her parents had
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: allegedly decided to teach her a lesson about missing her
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: few so she walked to a Max Milk convenience store
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: not far from her house and used the payphone to
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: call a friend asking if she could come over and
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: spend the night, but there was no answer, and now
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: she was alone in the middle of the night, with
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: nowhere to go, but she headed back towards her house anyway.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: And that same night, Paul was cruising through Burlington neighborhoods,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: stealing license plates from parked cars, and he was looking
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: for someone, and he spotted Leslie and approached her, and
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: he told her he was trying to break into the
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: house next door and offered her a cigarette which was
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: supposedly in his car, and sensing no danger because he
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: was very charming and you know, allegedly good looking or whatever.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I think he's evil and ugly in my head, but
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: you know, to a teenage girl, this attractive guy is
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: coming up and the red flags just weren't going off.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: So Leslie went towards the car, and when she got
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: close enough, Paul wrapped his sweatshirt around her head, stuffed
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: her in the car and drove away with her and
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Paul would bring Leslie back to Carla at their place,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: and once inside she was restrained, her hands bound with twine,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: and to keep her subdued, they used their typical method
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: of sedatives that Carla got through work, just as they
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: had with Tammy and Jane, and over the hours that followed,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Leslie was asked multiple times by both of them, and
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: videotapes found later on would show them both actively participating
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: in this abusit, and at various points Leslie cried out
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: in pain, pleading with Paul to stop, and the music
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: of Bob Marley and David Bowie played in the background,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: and at one point during her captivity, Leslie was handed
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: a Teddy bear to hold, which would seem like a
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: weirdly genuine gesture were it not for the context of
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: what was really occurring. And at another moment, Leslie told
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Bernardo that her blindfold was slipping, which meant that she
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: might be able to see his face, and on the videotape,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Paul is seen smiling directly into the camera while in
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the background where Leslie can be heard screaming, and throughout
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: the ordeal, Leslie remained alive and conscious fully aware of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: what was happening. To her, and she endured for as
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: long as she could, but unfortunately, Leslie would be murdered
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: sometime on June fifteenth, nineteen ninety one, less than a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: day after she had been taken, and both Paul and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Carla would later point the finger at each other for
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: her death. Paul's version was that Carla gave Leslie a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: fatal dose of sedatives while he was elsewhere in the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: house preparing the car and Carla's version was that Paul
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: strapped Leslie with an electrical cord and left her unconscious,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: then returned and strained her a second time. But the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: exact sequence of events in those final moments has never
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: been definitively established, and what is certain is that by
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, Leslie was no longer alive,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and the following morning was Father's Day, and at some
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: point Leslie's body was moved from the upstairs bedroom down
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: to the basement, and that same afternoon, the Homolka family
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: arrived at the house for a Father's Day dinner, and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: they ate together on the main floor, laughing and talking,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: entirely unaware of what lay just beneath their feet, and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: throughout the gathering, Carla took special care to keep her
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: mother from wandering downstairs, and after the family left, Paul
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: went out and purchased a dozen bags of cement and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: saved the receipts, and using a circular saw that had
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: belonged to his grandfather, they dissed Leslie's body into ten
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: pieces and those pieces were then encased in eight concrete blocks,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and over the course of multiple trips, Paul and Carla
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: transported the blocks to Lake Gibson and dumped them in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: the water, but the heaviest one weighed over two hundred
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: pounds it proved to be difficult to lift, so it
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: was left near the shoreline. So while Leslie's family searched
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: frantically for any sign of their daughter, Paul and Carla
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: turned their attention elsewhere because they had a wedding to plan. Ah. Yeah,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: my heart breaks for that family. So on June twenty ninth,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, on one, a man named Michael Duquette
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: and his son, Michael Junior were paddling a canoe across
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Lake Gibson when the large slab of concrete with a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: torso in it caught their attention and authorities were notified
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and police divers entered the lake and recovered additional slabs,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: and they found more human remains connected to the blocks,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: and Leslie was identified through her dental records and the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: braces she had been wearing when she disappeared, and investigators
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: examining the remains immediately suspected she had been subjected to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: s and prolonged abuse before her death, and the discovery
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: sent a wave of fear through Burlington and the surrounding communities.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: And parents were.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Terrified because a teenage girl had been abducted, murdered, and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: discarded in pieces with no clue as to who was responsible.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And Leslie would be laid to rest at Burlington Memorial Gardens,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: and in time her school would honor her memory with
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: a heart shaped garden and a plaque bearing her name.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: But the people who killed her still remained free, living
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: as if nothing had happened. So Paul and Carla got
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: engaged on December twenty fourth, nineteen eighty nine, and that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: date fell exactly one year before Tammy was murdered, but
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: at the time no one had any reason to see
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: it as anything other than a happy moment, and from
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the start, Paul made clear that the wedding would be
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: no modest affair. He wanted something extravagant, so Paul apparently
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: viewed the whole thing not just as a business opportunity,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: but a chance to collect substantial sums of money and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: gifts from guests. And the planning began early and moved
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: forward with intensity, and the ceremony would take place at
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Saint Mark's Angelican Church in Niagara on the Lake, Ontario,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: and the reception would follow at Queen's Landing with a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: formal sit down dinner for one hundred and fifty guests,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: featuring a veal stuffed pheasant on the menu, and a
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: white horse drawn carriage was rented to transport the couple,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: costing one thousand dollars, and Carla's wedding gown alone ran
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: two thousand dollars USD, and they estimated the wedding would
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: bring in as much as fifty thousand dollars in gifts.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: So the date was locked in June twenty ninth, nineteen
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: ninety one, just six short months after Tammy's death, and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: in the weeks leading up to the day, the violence
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: surrounding the couple accelerated with Jane and Leslie and during
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: this time, Carla reported expressed frustration that her parents were
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: still consumed by grief over Tammy, and she felt they
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: weren't giving the wedding enough attention that it deserved. So
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the contrast between her expectations and the weight of recent
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: loss caused tension within the family, naturally, but still the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: wedding moved forward without delay. So when the big day
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: finally arrived, Paul and Carlo stood at the altar of
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Saint Mark's Angelican Church and exchanged their wedding vows, and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: the church was full of friends, family, and colleagues. One
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty guests had gathered near Niagara Falls to
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: witness what appeared to be the picture perfect union, and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: photographs from the day captured the couple smiling side by side,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: radiating the energy that would later make the label Ken
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: and Barbie impossible to show in Every element of the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: ceremony had been carefully orchestrated, as he did for the
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: relationship in general. Paul controlled most of the decisions, the menu,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Carla's hair, the phrasing.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Of the vows.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: He insisted the traditional language include the words love, honor,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: and obey, and he rejected husband and wife demanding instead
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: that the efficiant pronounced the man and wife, and Patience
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: by guns n' roses was to be their wedding song,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: and after the ceremony, they climbed into the rented white
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: carriage and rode off together. So it looked like the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: final scene of a fairy tale, a storybook romance reaching
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: its inevitable, joyful end, but not everyone remembered the moment
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: that way, and some witnesses would later recall that Carla
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: looked visibly unhappy as she sat beside Paul on the carriage,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: and others described her body language as stiff, and at
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the time no one thought much of it. And the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: flowers Carla carried down the aisle and the bouquets held
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: by her bridesmaids had been dedicated to the memory of Tammy.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: The guest.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Smiled couple kissed, the carriage rolled away, and somewhere across
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: town police divers were searching for concrete blocks. So at
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: the same moment that Paul and Carla were engaging vows,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Leslie's body was being pulled from the water. Leslie had
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: been dead for thirteen days at this point, and for
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: two weeks her family had been searching, pleading for information,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: and hoping she had simply run away and would come
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: home on her own, as she had done in the past.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: But on the day of the wedding, they learned the truth,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: and while celebration took place at a nearby reception, Leslie's
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: remains were being recovered and identified.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Yet once again, not a.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Soul suspected Paul and Carla, and they continued as planned,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and Paul and Carla soon left for their honeymoon in Hawaii,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: and behind them Niagara Regional Police launched a homicide investigation
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: with no suspects and no leads. So the wedding became
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: the crowning achievement.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Of the lie.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: They had built, a flawless performance of youth, beauty and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: romantic success. Kristin down French came into the world on
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: May tenth, nineteen seventy six, in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, and
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: she was a second daughter born to Doug and Donna French.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: And Kristin had a brother, a family dog named Sasha,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: and two parents who made their children the center of
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: their lives. And Donna described Kristin as quote sweet, gentle,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: happy Kristin, the sweetheart of the family, unquote, and by
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: the time she was fifteen, Kristin had already built a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: kind of reliable reputation. She was a student at Holy
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Cross Catholic Secondary School, where she consistently made the honor
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: roll and her grades were straight a's, and teachers regarded
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: her as responsible and focused, and friends knew her as
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: someone who gave without hesitation, and when a classmate actually
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: broke her leg, Kristen took it upon herself to bring
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: home the girls science and French homework.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: So that was just the kind of.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Person she was. She didn't seek recognition for helping others.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: She just helped because she believed it was the right
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: thing to do. And Kristin was also a dedicated athlete.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: She skated on a precision ice skating team that had
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: earned several medals in competition. She also rode for her
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: school girls roaming team, pushing herself through grueling training sessions,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: and she managed the demands of school, sports and social
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: life masterfully. But on the afternoon of April sixteenth, nineteen
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: ninety two, christ and French left school and started walking home.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: And it was Holy Thursday, the day before Good Friday
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: and the start of Easter weekend in classes at Holy
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Cross Secondary School had just let out and students were
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: spilling into the surrounding streets, heading off in different directions,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: and Kristin walked alone and near the entrance to the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Grace Lutheran Church parking lot, Kristin cross paths with Paul
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: and Carla. The couple had spent the afternoon driving through
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Saint Catharines during the hours when school was let out,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: actively hunting for target and when they spotted Kristin walking
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: by herself, they pulled into the church lot and waited,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: and Carla stepped out of the car first, and she
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: was holding a map, pretending to be confused, needing directions,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: and Kristen stopped to help, as she always did, and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: that moment of kindness was the opening Poll needed, because
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: that's when he came at her from behind and forced
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: her into the vehicle at knife point, And once Kristin
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: was inside, Carla held a blade to her throat and
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: grabbed a fistful of her hair from behind, keeping her
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: pin down while Paul sped away from the lot. And
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: this all happened in broad daylight in a public place,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: with people nearby just highlighting their arrogance and their just
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: narcissism and confidence in themselves. But some people saw this
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: and several witnesses noticed something was wrong, though they didn't
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: understand what they were looking at in the moment, But
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: one of Kristin's shoes was found lying in the parking
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: lot afterward, which was evidence of a struggle, and by
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: that evening, Kristin French had been reported missing. So Kristin
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: was held captive for three days from April sixteenth through
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: to April nineteenth, nineteen ninety two, and she remained inside
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Paul and Carla's house. But unlike the others that met
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: a similar fate, Kristin was never drugged and she was
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: conscious for all of it, and Paul and Carla once
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: again recorded what they did to her, and the footage
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: shows them torturing and asking her over the course of
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: those three days, forcing her to drink a lot of alcohol,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: and in the recordings, Kristin is still wearing her Holy
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Cross school uniform and her wrists are bound with handcuffs
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: and her ankles are tied with cord and on the tapes,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Paul can be heard telling Carla to perform certain acts
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: quote unquote with force, reassuring her that quote unquote, it's
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: okay if it hurts, and Kristin could be heard crying
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: out in pain. And the recordings also capture Carla laughing
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: and enjoying herself, and the footage further contradicts the image
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: of a woman who participated only because she was afraid
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: it had no choice.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Shut the f.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Gup, you monster, And to Paul too, I mean that
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: goes without saying. But as we will see in the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: in Carlo's defense, she paints herself as something she is
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: absolutely not, and that is innocent. So Kristen endured a
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: longer captivity than any of the victims who came before her,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: and in the beginning she cooperated, believing compliance was her
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: only path to survival. But as her cruelty escalated, something
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: and Kristen shifted and she started to push back, and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: at some point during those three days she came to
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: understand the reality of her situation. And she had seen
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: their faces, she knew where they lived, and had seen
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: their dog. She knew too much, and she understood she
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: was not going to be released, and still she resisted.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: And she is remembered for looking at Bernardo and telling
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: him quote, some things are worth dying for unquote. She
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: would also tell him, quote, I don't know how your
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: wife can stand to be around you unquote. And Paul
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: didn't like that at all. But unfortunately, Kristin would be
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: killed on Easter Sunday, April nineteenth, nineteen ninety two, and
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: according to Carla's account, Paul wrapped a black electrical cord
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: around Kristen's neck and strangled her, and the autopsy would
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: later confirm strangulation as the official cause of death, and
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: the medical examiner also documented extensive injuries across her body,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: consistent with days of sustained torture, and the murder itself
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: was not captured on tape, but in the hours that followed,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Carla testified that she styled her hair with a blow
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: dryer before leaving the house, and she and Paul went
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: to her parents' home for Easter dinner, and later that night,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: they loaded Christen's body into their vehicle and drove approximately
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: fifty kilometers to a secluded rural area near Burlington, Ontario,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: and they left her there, discarded in the brush, and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: turned back toward home, still suffering no consequences. So Kristen's
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: body was found by a man named Roger Boyer as
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: he was out driving in Burlington and he saw something
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: odd about twenty feet off the road, and after checking it,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: realized there was a body and he contacted authorities as
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: quickly as he could and they arrived shortly. As investigators
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: examined her remains, they noticed the tip of her little
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: finger was missing, and that detail helped confirm her identity
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: because Kristin had lost part of that finger years earlier
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: during a roaming accident, and her head had been shaved
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: completely and her body bore unmistakable signs of whip and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: prolonged physical abuse. So this discovery sent shockwaves across Ontario again,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: and authorities made a public announcement saying they believed they
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: were now dealing with a serial killer, and in response,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: police formed the Green Ribbon Task Force, a joint investigative
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: unit dedicated to solving the murders of Leslie and Kristin,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: and at the same time, Kristen's classmates at Holy Cross
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: began distributing green ribbons in her memory, and what started
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: as a small gesture of grief eventually grew into a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: nationwide movement, and the Green Ribbon of Hope campaign created
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: to raise awareness about missing and exploited children, and Kristin
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: would be buried at pleasant few memorial gardens in font Hill, Ontario,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: and a scholarship fund was established in her name. And
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: on the day that should have been her sixteenth birthday,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: Kristin's rowing team competed in a race and they had
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: fallen behind early, trailing in last place, but in the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: final stretch they said that they felt Christen's spirit and
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: flew forward, crossing the finish line first and they gave
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: their medals to Doug and Donna French and Kristin would
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: never have the chance to turn sixteen, and she would
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: never row another race or help another classmate, but she
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: would never be forgotten. So for years, investigators had been
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: hunting a predator they couldn't identify, and the search began
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: in November of nineteen eighty eight after a wave of
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: brutal swept through Toronto's East End, and Metropolitan Police assembled
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: a dedicated task force to track down the mail. The
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: media had dubbed the Scarborough Rast and at its height,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: the unit included fifty officers, but over the course of
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: the investigation, more than forty one thousand tips poured in
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: from the public, but none of them led to an arrest,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: and the predator remained a ghost. And then in nineteen
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: ninety the attacks stopped and there was no explanation and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: no capture, But by nineteen ninety one, the task Force
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: was quietly dissolved, and the unspoken assumption among investigators was
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: that the danger had passed and whoever was responsible had
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: moved on, or been incarcerated for something else, or simply
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: stopped bending. But that assumption was wrong, and the man
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: behind the Scarborough was just relocated and in Saint Catharines.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: The nature of his crimes had changed because the violence
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: had gone from us to murder, and in the wake
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: of Christian's abduction and killing in April of nineteen ninety two,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Niagara Regional Police reached out to the FBI for assistance,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: and within weeks five criminal profilers from the bureau's Behavioral
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Analysts Unit traveled north to consult on the case, and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: the assessment was direct. The perpetrator was a sexually motivated
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: predator and unless he was caught, he would almost certainly
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: kill again, and by mid May, investigators formed the Green
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Ribbon Task Force, a joint unit dedicated to solving both murders,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: and by this point investigators understood they were pursuing a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: serial offender, and the geography alone pointed to a pattern.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Both abductions and body disposals had occurred along the same
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: stretch between Saint Catharine's and Burlington, so the murders of
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Leslie and Christen bore undeniable similarities in method and victim selection.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: But what no one had yet pieced together was the
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: connection that would eventually break the case wide open. The
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Scarborough wrist and the killer of those girls were the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: same person, and the Toronto investigation and the Niagara investigation
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: continued to operate independently, totally unaware they were looking for
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: the same person or persons. As we know, though, Scarborough
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: had been a figure without a face for quite some time,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: and he had attacked his victims from behind, so most
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: never got a clear look at him, and the descriptions
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: that trickled in were vague and difficult to act on. Then,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: in May of nineteen ninety one, survivor changed everything. She
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: had seen her attacker's face and remembered it, so, working
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: from her description, police developed a computer generated composite portrait,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: and on May twenty eighth, nineteen ninety, the sketch appeared
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: in newspapers across the region and the headline read, quote
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: is this boy next door the Scarborough unquote? The image
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: depicted a man with light blue eyes and blonde hair,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: medium build, and clean shaven, and alongside the sketch, investigators
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: announced a one hundred and fifty thousand reward for any
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: information leading to an arrest, and the public responded immediately
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: and within weeks more than sixteen thousand tips flooded in,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: and among them was the same name Paul Bernardo. And
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: former colleagues at Price Waterhouse recognized the face in the compass,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: and one coworker brought the newspaper into the office and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: remarked openly that the sketched looked just like him. And meanwhile,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: fear had seeped into daily life across the city and
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: women stopped walking alone after dark, and one woman later
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: recalled standing at a bus stop when a man passed
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: by and said, casually, quote, you should be careful. I
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: could be the Scarborough unquote.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: It's so ficked up.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: But the warning signs had been there for years, and
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: the clues pointing to Paul had come up time and
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: time again, only to be overlooked, deprioritized, or lost in
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the flood of incoming tips. And as far back as
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: May nineteen eighty eight, a ununiformed officer conducting surveillance near
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: a bush shelter noticed a man crouched beneath a tree,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: watching and waiting, and the officer chased the man, but
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: the man got away and the man was Paul. And
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: one of Paul's former girlfriends named Jennifer, had contacted police
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: on multiple occasions to report him of violence and abuse,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: and reports were made, but nothing came of them, and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: there were other detail that should have been noticed, like
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: the Scarborough predator was known to drive a white Capri
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: and Paul owned a white Capri and he lived right
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: next to the areas where the attacks had occurred, and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: his appearance matched the physical profile investigators had developed. And
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: in June of nineteen ninety, a bank employee who had
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: worked with Paul saw the composite sketch in a newspaper
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: and immediately recognized him as she reported him to the police,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: and later in the summer, Tina Smyrnus, the wife of
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: one of Paul's closest friends reached out to investigators with
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: her own suspicions, and she and her husband Alex told
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: detectives that Paul had previously been questioned in connection with
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: a mentioning that he frequently discussed his aggressive sexual preferences
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: in disturbingly explicit terms. And in May of nineteen ninety two,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: another acquaintance named John Motow went to authorities and identified
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Paul as a potential suspect.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: So his name kept.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Rising to the surface, and every time it sank back
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: down somehow, and despite the repeated tips from also lots
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: of people, Paul managed to avoid suspicion in the investigation
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: far far too long, but his time.
• 1:20:07
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• 1:20:09
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• 1:20:12
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• 1:20:15
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• 1:20:20
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• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: after all the tips had continued to fly in, detectives
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: finally sat down with him for an interview in July,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: and a second conversation took place in November, lasting just
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: thirty five minutes, and when asked why he believed police
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: had contacted him, Paul offered a casual explanation, acknowledging that
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: he bore a resemblance to the composite sketch, and he
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: laughed about it, and he agreed to provide biological samples
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: for DNA comparisons. And the detectives that interviewed him came
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: away impressed because he didn't match their expectations, saying, quote,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: such a well educated, well adjusted, congenial young man couldn't
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: be responsible for these vicious crimes.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Unquote what about Ted Bundy had happened? It's not rich.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Just because somebody's attractive and can speak words, okay, doesn't
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: mean they can't hurt people. But they found him far
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: more credible than Alex Smyrnas, the tipster who had reported him,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: who struck them as awkward and unreliable. So Paul walked
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: out the interview. A Freeman and his DNA samples were
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: submitted to the Center of Forensic Sciences in Toronto, along
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: with more than one hundred and thirty other samples collected
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: during the investigation. And at the time, forensic DNA testing
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: was still in its infancy in Canada and the lab
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: responsible for processing the evidence employed just one scientist and
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: one technician. An initial screening narrowed the pool to five samples,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: including Paul's, that matched the blood factors of the Scarborough predator.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: But by then the Scarborough Predator case had lost its urgency,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: and Paul's DNA sat in a queue for twenty six months,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: untouched and untested, and during those twenty six months, Tammy, Jane, Leslie,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: and Kristen would all be horrifically crimes that could have
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: been prevented had his DNA been processed sooner. The evidence
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: that would have identified him had been sitting in a
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: lab the entire time, incredibly frustrating it and just horrific
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: to think about those poor, poor, poor girls. So a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: sample was flagged for more comprehensive testing and resubmitted in
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: April of nineteen ninety two. So by that year, the
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: carefully constructed image surrounding Paul and Carla had started to
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: crack because things still appeared intact from the outside, but
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: inside the house the reality was something else entirely, and
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: the dynamic between them had deteriorated, and the man Carla
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: would later describe as charming, attentive, and romantic during their
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: courtship had transformed into someone unrecognizable because he grew more
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: controlling and more volatile and more demanding, and whatever balance
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: had once existed between them had now fallen apart, tipping
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: decisively in his favor. And Carlo would later tell investigators
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: that everything changed after December of nineteen ninety, when Tammy died,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: and according to her account, Paul began wielding Tammy's death
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: as a weapon, threatening to expose the truth of what
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: had happened that night if Carla ever tried to leave,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: and she claimed he manipulated her into participating in criminal acts,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: that he trapped her in a relationship defined by sex,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: physical violence, and emotional abuse. And yet she stayed, and
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: she continued writing Bernardo affectionate letters, and she continued indulging
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: in his fantasies, and she continued helping him commit crimes,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: so that contradiction between the helpless victim and the willing
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: participant captured on video would sit at the center of
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: everything that followed. And come summertime, allegedly the screw verse
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: against Carla, where Paul began you using Carla as a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: regular target for his rage. His grip on control was loosening,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: and the marriage became dangerous, and in June Carla decided
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: she wanted out, and she reached out to her parents
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: and asked them to help her move her belongings out
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: of the Port Dulhusy house, and when Carol and Dorothy arrived,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: the scene was tense, and Dorothy would later testify that
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Carla appeared distraught while Paul was drunk and belligerent, and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: as Carla's things were being loaded into the van, Paul
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: asked her to step inside the house to talk, and
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: she agreed and went in alone. Minutes later, she came
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: back outside and told her parents that she and Paul
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: would be able to settle things between them, so she
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: stayed yet again self preservation, but the reconciliation attempt was
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: short lived, and by January of nineteen ninety three, the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: violence was too much and Paul attacked Carlo with a
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: heavy metal flashlight and ster with a screwdriver, and he
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: beat her repeatedly around the head and limbs with force
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: so severe that she developed raccoon eyes, a condition caused
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: by her brain being driven forward against the inside of
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: her skull, and Carla arrived at the emergency room at
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: Saint Catherine's General Hospital with two blackened eyes and a
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: wrist that appeared to be broken, and she could barely
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: walk in a straight line and had difficulty recognizing where
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: she was And when the hospital staff asked what had happened,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: she told them she had been in a car accident,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: and she was treated and then released, And on January fourth,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Carla returned to her work and she told them the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: same story, but her coworkers weren't buying it, and shortly after,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: anonymous phone calls began reaching Dorothy Hamulka, and the next day,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Dorothy drove to the clinic and saw her daughter's face
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: with her own eyes, and she would later testify about
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: that moment, saying, quote, I shook, I couldn't understand what
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: was happening, unquote, and she wanted to bring Carla home immediately,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: but not without pushback. So in the days that followed,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Carla's parents pushed harder, and they convinced her to take
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: shelter at the home of one of Florrie's friends, whose
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: husband happened to be a police officer in tron And
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: when Carla's parents arrived to grab her belongings, she broke
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: away from them and ran back inside, moving frantically through
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: the house searching for something, and when she finally emerged,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: her hands were empty and she left reluctantly, visibly unsettled,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: and investigators would later come to believe she had been
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: looking for the videotapes, the damning evidence that she was
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: an active participant in all the horrid crimes that she did,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: and on January sixth, Carla was formally admitted to Saint
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Catherine's General Hospital for treatment of her injuries. At this
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: time she filed charges as a battered spouse, and Paul
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: was arrested and charged with assault with the weapon, only
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: to be released on bail shortly afterward, and eventually she
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: relocated to Brampton, moving in with her aunt and uncle.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: But the cracks and the facade were spreading fast, and
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: on February ninth, Carla sat for an interview with the
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Metro Toronto Assault squad and their initial assumption was that
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: she was simply a victim, and that night Carla told
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: her aunt and uncle that Paul was the Scarborough predator
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: and that the two of them had been involved in
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: the es and murder of Leslie and Kristen and that
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: they recorded it. So on February first, just before Carla's interviews.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: The long wait finally came to an end, and at
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: the Center of Forensic Sciences in Toronto, technicians completed DNA
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: analysis on a blood sample Paul had voluntarily provided more
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: than two years earlier, and this time the results left
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: no room for interpretation. The DNA was a match, and
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: seaman recovered from victims of the Scarborough Predator corresponded directly
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: to Bernardo's genetic profile and conclusively Paul Bernardo was the
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Scarborough predator and the evidence tied him to at least
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: three confirmed essays where biological samples had been preserved and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: investigators grasped the implications immediately, and the delay had given
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Paul all the time he needed to continue living freely
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: and let the violence evolve into something far worse. And
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: police moved quickly to make up for lost ground, and
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Paul was placed under around the clock surveillance and its
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: movements were tracked and his phone lines were tapped, and
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: the man who had slipped through the law enforcement's grass
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: for years was finally being watched. And when Detective Steve
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: Irwin not that Steve Irwin uncovered that Paul had recently
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: been charged with assault by his own wife, and Saint Catharine's.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: The scattered pieces of the investigation clicked into place for
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: the first time. The Scarborough predator, the murders, the domestic
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: violence complaint. They were one continuous story, and when Carla
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: was brought in for questioning, she understood what police had
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: pieced together and now they were looking at her, and
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: detectives asked her to provide fingerprints, and they asked about
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: a Mickey mouse wristwatch that had been recovered from the house,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: one bearing a striking resemblance to a watch Kristen had
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: been wearing the day she disappeared, and Carla became afraid,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: and in the days that followed she began swallowing large
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: quantities of painkillers, chasing them with alcohol, trying to dull
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: a terror that had become very real because the walls
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: she had helped build were closing in a owned her.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: So when Carla finally started talking, she spoke as someone
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: who had been victimized. She presented herself as a woman
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: who had spent years living under the thumb of a violent,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: controlling man that she described Paul as manipulative and domineering,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: and she said he had beaten her threatened her and
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: dictated every detail of her daily existence. And she also
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: mentioned that Paul bragged about as many as thirty women,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: which was twice as many as suspected, and placed the
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: blame for her sister, Tammy's death solely on Paul, and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: she told police that what happened to Tammy was all
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: his doing. And over the course of a four day interrogation,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Carla constructed a narrative in which she had no choice,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: and she acknowledged knowing about the Scarboroughs, and she acknowledged
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: knowing about the murders of Leslie and Kristen, and she
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: acknowledged and being present when those crimes were committed, and
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: she acknowledged to playing a role in carrying them out.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: But at every turn she minimized her own involvement. And
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: investigators listened as she told her story, and as the
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: hours passed, they began to see the full scope of
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: what lay before them, the warped dynamic between the two
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: people at the center of all the crimes. So on
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: February eleventh, two days after her police interview, Carla met
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: with George Walker, a defense attorney based in Niagara Falls,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: and Walker's objective was clear secure legal immunity from the
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Crown in exchange for Carla's testimony, and three days later,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: on February fourteenth, Walker sat down with Crown Prosecutor Murray Segal,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: and when Walker mentioned the existence of the videotapes, Segal
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: said that full immunity was off the table, but a
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: reduced sentence could be arranged, and the discussions continued and
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: over the following days the framework of an agreement emerged
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: and Carla was presented with a plea bargain and she
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: had one week to decide and out of the terms
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: of the deal, she would be required to cooperate fully
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: providing what prosecutors described as a full and complete, truthful
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: account of the deaths of French and Leslie Mahaffei and
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hamulka, and she would testify against Paul and plead
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: guilty to two counts of manslaughter rather than murder and
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: return she would receive a twelve year sentence, and if
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: she refused, she would face two counts of first degree murder,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: one count of second degree murder, and additional charges. And
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: at the time, prosecutors operated under three key assumptions. First,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: that Carla Hamolka was a battered woman, and second that
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: Paul was the dominant offender of the crimes. And third
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: that without Carla's testimony, obtaining a conviction against Paul for
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: the murders would be extraordinarily difficult. And it is important
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: to note that they had not yet seen these videotapes,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: like during the point of the deal, like the videotapes
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: are damning, like she is a king monster, but all
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: they're getting is her testimony at this point. So I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: don't know why they would make this deal without receiving
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: the videotapes. I'm a YouTube what the what I know?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: But that is the giant grain of salt that is
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: being given to the prosecutors at this point. So when
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Crown prosecutors signed Carla Homolko's plea agreement on May fourteenth,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, they were operating essentially blind, and they
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: had Carla's version of the events, and they had her
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: testimony about being a battered wife coerced into participation, and
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: they had the physical evidence of Paul's abuse, but they
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: did not have the tapes, the tapes that would show
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Carla laughing during the assaults and the tapes that would
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: show her initiating acts of violence, and the tapes that
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: would reveal her as an enthusiastic participant and not a
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: reluctant victim. And those tapes were hidden above a bathroom
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: light fixture, exactly where Paul had left them, and Ken Murray,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Paul's defense attorney, would retrieve them just eight days before
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: the plea deal was finalized. And he watched them, and
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: he made copies, and he said nothing, no words. For
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: seventeen months. The prosecution built its case around a narrative
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: that the tapes would have completely destroyed by the time
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: the truth emerged. It was too late. The deal was
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: done and there was no taking it back. So the
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: deal moved forward regardless, and the Crown found itself with
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: a dilemma. The DNA evidence was strong enough to prosecute
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: Paul for the Scarborough assaults, but there was no concrete
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: evidence to tie him to the murders other than Carla's testimony,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: and the only real path to a murder conviction came
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: directly through her testimony, and the later government inquiry would
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: say quote the Crown had no alternative but to negotiate
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: with an accomplice. It was in the inquiry's assessment the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: lesser of two evils to strike a deal with a
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: participant in the crimes rather than risk letting a violent
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: predator escape accountability altogether. The media would have eventually give
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: the agreement a different name, and they called it the
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Deal with the Devil, which I fully agreed with the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: media for once in my life. So years later prosecutors
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: involved in the case would acknowledge what many had long suspected.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: Had they seen the videotapes before finalizing the agreement, they
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: never would have signed it. So on February seventeenth, nineteen
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: ninety three, Paul was taken into custody and officers from
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Metro Toronto's Salt Squad and the Green Ribbon Task Force
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: made the arrest together, and he was charged in connection
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: with the Scarborough assaults and formally identified as the prime
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: suspect in the murders of Leslie and Kristen. So investigators
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: secured a search warrant for his house, but the warrant
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: came with severe limitations. His police were restricted to seizing
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: only those items explicitly named in the document. Any videotapes
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: discovered during the search had to be watched inside the house,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: and officers were forbidden from conducting destructive searches, so no
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: tearing open walls, no pulling down ceilings, no dism mantling fixtures.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: So the search stretched on for seventy one days and
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: they found damning evidence a handwritten list cataloging every one
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: of the Scarborough essays and books on pornographies, alleviation and
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: serial murder, and videos exploring similar subject matter, a hunting knife, handcuffs,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: and they also recovered a videotape depicting Paul and Carla
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: engaged in stable acts with two young women who had
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: not been previously identified, and one of the women appeared
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: to have been drugged and the other seemed unaware of
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: what was happening to her. But the tapes believed to
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: document the murders themselves were nowhere to be found, and
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: police searched the house for more than two months but
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: never found them. But in the meantime, the legal process
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: continued on and on May eighteenth, nineteen ninety three, Carla
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: appeared in court and was formally arraigned on two counts
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: of manslaughter, and on July sixth, nineteen ninety three, Carla
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: entered her guilty plea and was sentenced to two twelve
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: year terms to be served currently. So the crown had
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: secured its star witness and the prosecution of Paul Bernardo
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: could now move ahead, But investigators were still unaware of
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: just what was on the missing tapes, evidence that would
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: prove Carla was no passive victim and would make the
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: plea deal that much more controversial. So for seventy one days,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: investigators had combed through every corner of Paul's place but
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: came up empty, and Paul was the only person who
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: knew exactly where they were. And from his jail cell,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: he wrote a two page letter to his defense attorney
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Ken Murray, including a hand drawn diagram to find the
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: hiding spot, and he told Ken to retreat the tapes,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: but do not watch them yet, and if Murray succeeded,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: he was to say, quote, how about those jays unquote,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: and if he failed, he was to say how about
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: those leafsuot and Murray entered the house, bringing his junior
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: council Caroline MacDonald, and a law clerk, and the place
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: was in ruins, Rotting food had been left in the kitchen,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: cosmetic containers were scattered and emptied, and the upstairs bathroom
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: was still in disarray, bearing the marks of a police
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: search that had stretched on for weeks, and Murray went
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: directly to the bathroom, reaching above the potlight, and he
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: pulled out six videotapes. How this is allowed, I will
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: never know. And MacDonald would later describe what she observed
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: in the moment, saying, quote, I can see his leg vibrating,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: shaking a mile a minute. And Murray believed he had
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: uncovered a bonanza for the defense, and he transported the
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: tapes back to his office and secured them inside a safe,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: and twelve days later, acting on Paul's written instructions, Murray
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: watched the tapes and he made a duplicate copy and
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: stored it in a separate secure location. And then he
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: held on to the originals for seventeen months. And the
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: strategy was simple, allow Carla to testify at the preliminary hearing,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: presenting the battered wife narrative, then released the tapes to
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: destroy her credibility on the stand. Evil here, evil there,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: evil here, evil being everywhere. But the prosecution bypassed the
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: preliminary hearing altogether and proceeded directly to trial. So Murray's
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: plan fell apart, and by the summer of nineteen ninety
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: four he found himself with a serious ethical crisis. He
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: sought counsel from his own attorney, who in turn consulted
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: the Law Society of Upper Canada and he was instructed
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: to seal the tapes and surrender them to the trial judge.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: And in September Murray withdrew from the case and he
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: transferred the recordings to Bernardo's newly appointed lawyer, John Rawson,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: who retained possession for approximately two weeks, and then on
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: September twenty second, he turned them over to the police.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: So sixteen months had passed since Carlo's plea bargain was finalized.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: So the recordings amounted to roughly three and a half
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: hours of footage documenting four victims, Tammy Himulka, Jane Doe,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Leslie Mahaffi and kristin French, and in graphic detail. The
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: tapes captured the assaults of all of them, and the
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: murders themselves were never recorded, but everything leading up to
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: them was now The tapes revealed the opposite of what
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Carla had been saying, and they showed active participation. Carla
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: did not appear on those recordings as a terrified woman,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: it coerced into actions. She was a partner in the crimes,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: and Murray, who viewed the tapes before anyone else outside
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: the couple, described what he saw on Carla's face as
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: fairal joy. As she took part in the margion and
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: torture of the victims, she became known as the Black
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: Widow by members of the defense team, and Murray testified
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: that the recordings showed Carlos assaulting four different female victims,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: engaging in collectivity with a female worker during a trip
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: to Atlantic City, and they showed her administering drugs to
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: an unconscious victim.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: Quote.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: This wasn't a lady who had been subjugated, unquote, Murray said,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: quote she was happy, compliant, suggestive, and willing. In my view,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: the tapes showed Carla as being often the person in control.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: Nothing on the tapes struck me that she was being
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: dominated or coerceduote, and Carla's narrative began to crumble. In
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: one tape bore a handwritten label Carla, Tammy and Me,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: and the footage showed Carla dressed in her dead sister's clothing,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: having relations with Paul on Tammy's bed, and during the
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: recording she praised him for taking Tammy's virtunity, and another
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: part showed the couple intimate while Paul held a photograph
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: of Tammy in his hands, saying, quote, I saw somebody
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: who could be shown as a complete liar, Murray would say,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: and the image of Carla as the cringing, battered wife
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: was exposed for the lie that it was so. By
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: the time the videotapes finally came to light, the case
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: had already consumed headlines across North America and in Canada,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: a publication ban had shielded the public from the specifics
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: of Carla's plea agreement, but America media outlets were free
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: to report whatever they learned, and the Internet rendered the
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: ban effectively meaningless, because when the full truth emerged, the
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: reaction was furious, how you're feeling now while watching this?
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: That was the reaction.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Carla was a willing participant, active participant in the tour
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: and essay and murder of multiple young women, and one
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: of them being her sister, and by the time the
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: public learned the extent of her involvement, she had already
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: served a portion of her twelve year sentence.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: And the deal with the Devil was known.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: Worldwide, and editorial boards accused prosecutors of handing Carla a
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: lenient sentence for crimes described as quote nothing short of
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: monstrous and depraved unquote, and Crown Attorney Ray Hulahan acknowledged
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: publicly that if investigators had recovered the tapes earlier, Carla
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: might well have faced murder charges, but the Crown maintained
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: it had no choice but to honor the agreement.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: Canada's court system.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Trash because Carla did her part and it couldn't be
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: taken back now, and the outrage grew worse, persisting for
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: more than a decade through appeals, parole hearings, and her
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: highly publicized release in July of two thousand and five,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: and the legal and ethical follout extended beyond Carla herself,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: and Murray was charged with obstruction of justice, thanked God
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: in two thousand, following a trial that lasted several weeks,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: and Murray was acquitted unfortunately. In presiding Judge Patrick Lesage
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: said that Murray had retained the recordings for an inordinate
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: and improper period of time, but the case ultimately hinges
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: on questions the legal system had never fully resolved. So
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: this itself ignited a broader debate about the ethical responsibilities
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: of defense counsel when in possession of incriminating physical evidence,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: and the government inquiry conducted in nineteen ninety six concluded
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: that police had made numerous critical errors throughout the investigation,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: and it found that rivalries and poorer coordination between law
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: enforcement agencies had hampered progress at key moments. And it
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: also concluded that some of the crimes might have been
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: prevented fully and entirely if Paul's DNA sample had been
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: processed in a timely manner. So, in December of two
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: thousand and one, Canadian authorities ordered the six videotapes be
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: destroyed after their legal use had been fulfilled, and Donna French,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Kristin's mother, said that when she learned of the decision,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: she mentally spoke to her daughter, telling her she quote
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have to worry anymore unquote, and no one else
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: would ever see what was on those tapes. Only the
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: transcripts remain, and they have never been made available to
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: the public, nor should they ever be made available to
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: the public in my opinion, So in nineteen ninety five,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: Paul finally stook trial, and the proceedings became a national spectacle.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: The satellite trucks lined the streets outside the courthouse, and
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: crowds gathered daily just for any glimpse of the accused,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: and security was tight and the atmosphere was tense, and
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Paul faced a number of charges, two counts of first
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: degree murder for the deaths of Leslie and Kristen, along
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: with two counts of kidnapping, forcible confinement and aggravated essay,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: and the outcome would determine not only his fate, but
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: whether he would ever be eligible for parole or be
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: designated a dangerous offender and locked away indefinite. The prosecution's
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: case was methodical and overwhelming, and the Crown attorneys walked
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: the jury through the crimes in chronological sequence, constructing a
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: timeline of escalating violence. But the centerpiece of their argument
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: was the videotape evidence. But the recordings were not shown
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: in open court given the extreme nature of their content.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: The presiding judge restricted viewing to the jury and legal
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: counsel only, and instead transcripts were read aloud and brief
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: carefully edited excerpts were displayed, and even in this controlled form.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: The footage was devastating and.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: The descriptions alone left no room for second guessing, and
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Paul's direct involvement in the crimes was undeniable. And another
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: critical voice came from the surviving victim known only as
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Jane Doe, who we talked about before, and she testified
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: under a court protected pseudonym, and her memories of the
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: essats were only fragments at best, as the drugs had
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: erased most of what had been done to her, But
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: her presence in the court room mattered, and her confirmation
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: that she had lost consciousness in the presence of the
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: couple and later learned she had been violated while unconscious
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: reinforced the pattern of predatory serial behavior that prosecutors were
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: working to establish. In Carla's time on the witness stand
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: became one of the most anticipated and unsettling moments of
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: the entire trial. So when she finally appeared before the jury,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: the courtroom fell silent and her voice was steady, and
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: she calmly walked through the sequence of horrors she had
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: helped orchestrate, and she acknowledged stealing sedatives from the veterinary
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: clinic at Paul's direction, and she admitted holding halathane soaked
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: cloth over her sister, Tammy's face, and she confirmed participating
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: in essays of both Leslie and Kristen. And when cross
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: examination began, Paul's defense attorney went on the attack to
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: destroy Carla's credibility and recast her as an equal partner
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: in the crimes and maybe even the instigator. And he
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: highlighted contradictions between her early statements to police and what
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: the videotapes had actually captured, and he pressed her on
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: the question of enjoyment, reading aloud transcript passages in which
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Carla could be heard laughing, making enthusiastic remarks, and expressing
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: which sounded unmistakably like pleasure, and she began to crack
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: and started seeming defensive, and when confronted with her own
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: behavior on the recordings, she fell back on her own
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: story and she was quote, just saying what Paul wanted
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: to hear, unquote, and observers in the courtroom noted the shift,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: and the mask she had worn so carefully started to slip,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: and for the first time the jury and the public
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: glimpsed something closer to the woman captured on those tapes,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: but still her testimony achieved with the Crown needed it
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: to achieve, and she provided details only someone on the
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: inside could know and confirmed key facts, and she placed
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Paul at the center of every crime. And regardless of
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: the doubts the defense raised about her character, her accounts
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: of Paul's actions were damning enough so a case against
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: Paul was air tight. But what remained to be seen
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: was whether the jury would deliver the verdict the evidence demanded. So,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: following a trial that stretched over four months months long,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: the jury reached its decision and on September first, nineteen
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: ninety five, Paul Bernardo was found guilty on every single
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: charge he faced to count the first degree murder, multiple
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: counts of esp and committing an indignity to a human body,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: and the deliberations lasted less than a single day, and
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: the judge handed down the maximum sentence permitted under Canadian law,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: which was life imprisonment with no possibility of parole for
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: twenty five years. But the Corps went further and in
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: light at the exceptional brutality of the crimes, prosecutors had
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: requested that Paul be designated a dangerous offender, which is
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: a legal classification in Canada that allows a person to
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: be jailed indefinitely without parole, and the request was thankfully granted,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: and it intended to ensure that Paul would in all
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: likelihood never walk free again. But while Paul's punishment was
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: being pronounced, carlos fate had already been sealed years earlier
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: by the terms of her plea agreement, and she had
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: already served time at a women's correctional facility. In the
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: mass of distinction between their sentences struck the victim's families
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: like a blow, and Doug French, Kristen's father, called Carla's
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: punishment in outrage, and still he acknowledged that the family
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: at least had the slight comfort from the knowledge that
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Paul Bernardo would never see daylight again. And the Mahafis
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: expressed a similar mixture of relief and lingering anguish because
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: they were grateful that Bernardo had been convicted, but the
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  Speaker 1: wound left by Carla's deal and the sense that she
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: had never truly been held accountable for what she had done,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: remained open. So justice had been served for one of them,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: and for the other. The question of justice would haunt
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: the public for years to come. So the verdict against
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: Paul did little to quiet the fury surrounding Carlo's flea deal,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: and across Canada, the outrage was widespread and unrelenting, and
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: many believed Carla had manipulated the system in order to
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: acquire her deal with the Devil, and officials from the
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: Ontario Attorney General's Office defended the decision quote as distasteful
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: as it is to bargain with an accomplice, it was necessary, unquote,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: and this explanation did nothing to ease public anger. Not shockingly,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: and in the years that followed, the case triggered legal reform,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: and in two thousand, Canada established a national DNA database,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: partly in response to the delay in identifying Paul's DNA
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: and to prevent similar delays in the future, and police
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: protocols for cross jurisdictional cooperation were overhauled, ensuring that information
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: about suspects like Paul would be shared more broadly and
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: more quickly, and the case became a staple example of
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: the ethical complexities of plea bargaining in law courses and culturally.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: The case left.
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  Speaker 1: Its mark on all of Canada, and it became a
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: reference point in debates about sentencing policy, the ethics of
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: publication bans and the role of female accomplices in violent crimes,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: and the media restrictions imposed during the trial drew particular criticism,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: as American outlets reported freely on the details, while Canadian
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: citizens were barred by court order from learning the full
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: truth of the crimes committed in their own country. This
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: still happens today, by the way, the re censored up
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: there in Canada.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: I can speak to that. Love Canada. But it's God.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: Its flaws all right, just like just like America. America's
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: got a lot of flaws too. It's all shit basically
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: then anyway. But the nickname ken in barbie killers became
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: well known in criminal history, carrying with it an unsettling
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: lesson Monsters do not always look like monsters, and sometimes
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: they just look like the attractive, smiling young couple next door.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: And the wound that case left in the Canadian justice
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: system never fully healed, and for many the outcome felt
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: like justice half served, with Paul's punishment to the fullest
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: extent of the law and Carla given far less than
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: she deserved. But as of now, Paul remains behind bars,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: still carrying the dangerous offender designation, and he can and
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: most likely will be held indefinitely, regardless of how many
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: years pass, and even so, the legal system requires periodic review,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: and after twenty five years, Paul became eligible to apply
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: for parole, and his first hearing took place in twenty eighteen,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: where the board denied his request, citing a complete absence
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: of remorse and high probability that he would reoffend if released.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: And he applied again in twenty twenty one in another hearing,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty three in another review, and each
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: time he was rejected, and the decisions pointed to persistent
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: psychopathic characteristics, no evidence of meaningful rehabilitation, and assessments indicating
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: that his capacity for violence had not diminished with time.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: The documentation from the hearings noted that Paul continued to
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: harbour fantasies involving teenage girls, and for the families of
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: his victims, every hearing has felt like a threat, resurfacing
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: a sad reminder that a man responsible for destroying their
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: lives is still alive and petitioning for freedom and Doug French,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Kristen's father, has publicly described Paul as Canada's most dangerous predator,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: and the parole boards repeated denials have affirmed that assessment,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: and as of today, the status remains unchanged and Paul
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: is housed in a maximum security facility where he is
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: monitored closely. And Carlo's story after prison is the part
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: that still just doesn't sit right. Because she served with
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: FOAL twelve years, she had negotiated and on July fourth,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: two thousand and five, she walked out of prison a
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: free woman, and her release sparked protests, petitions, and public outcry,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: and the French and Mahaffi families fought to keep her
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: incarcerated as mentioned, and thousands of Canadians demanded intervention, but
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: legally there was nothing anyone could do because she had
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: fulfilled the terms of her plea agreement and completed her sentence.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: And after her release, Carla relocated to Quebec and began
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: the process of erasing herself and she adopted a new identity,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: at one point going by the name Emilie Chiara Tremblay,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: and in two thousand and five she married Tiery Bordelai,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: who was the brother of one of the lawyers involved
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: in her case. I'm just going to go ahead and
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: assume that guy's a monster too. What. The couple eventually
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: had three children, which is disgusting to think about, because
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: I weep for those children, like she's a predator, Like
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: they're not checking on them. I don't even understand how
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: this is so wowed, But okay anyway, And in two
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven, the family left Canada for Guadaloupe, and
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: they returned to Quebec sometime around twenty fourteen, but every
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: time her whereabouts became public and the outrage flared up
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: once more. And in twenty seventeen, news reports revealed that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: Carla had been volunteering at the children's elementary school in Chatauga, Quebec,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: and parents were enraged at the idea that a convicted
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: killer of children was chaperoning field trips alongside their own children,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: and the story made national headlines with immediate backlash. And
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: since then, Carla has maintained a low profile. Just dig
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: a hole, jump in it, and get someone to bury
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: you in it. How about that, Carla. But she reportedly
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: lives in the suburb of Montreal, occasionally using a different
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: first name to avoid detection, and she had formal restrictions
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: attached to her release, including no contact with Paul, victim's
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: families or any violent criminal, as well as a few
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: regular check ins that expired in twenty twelve. So to
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: public knowledge, she has not been involved in any further
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: criminal activity. But the debate has never faded. So I'll
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: ask you should she be free? And the victims' families
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: and much of the public have never stopped saying no,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: and also me because in their eyes, in my eyes,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: she got away with multiple murders and her freedom remains
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: a permanent stain on Canada's justice system, and Carla herself
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: has offered little that resembles genuine accountability, and in an
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: interview conducted shortly after her release in two thousand and five,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: she acknowledged her role in the crimes, saying, quote what
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: I did was terrible.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: I regret it. Unquote shut the fuck up.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: No you don't. But even then, she's kept up her
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: victim facade and the narrative she constructed decades ago has
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: never truly changed, and now more than thirty years after
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: the murders, she lives quietly in Quebec and her children
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: are teenagers, and according to some reports, they remain unaware
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: of their mother's past, though the media attention makes that
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: extremely hard to believe. The Carla is legally free, and
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: she's rebuilt a life and started a family and avoided
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: the spotlight as much as possible, but she remains one
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: of the most despised women in Canadian history, essentially living
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: in exile and bearing a name that will forever be
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: synonymous with evil. And the Homolkas have never spoken publicly
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: about their loss. Instead, they chose to retreat from view
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: because some wounds just don't close and I do not
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: blame them at all, and some families simply have to
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: learn to live around the absence. I can't imagine how
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: that family feels. And I can't imagine having a daughter
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: that would do that to your other daughter. I just
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: can't imagine that. I would also like to say that
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: this video, all the proceeds for this video will be
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: going to victims, to I spread across multiple charities that
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: get back to victims. I will tag those down below
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: if you want to check them out. But that is
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: the end of this case. This was a rough one.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: This was a rough one, but you guys suggested it,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: and if you have any more cases you want me
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: to keep dive into, let me know down below, and
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: until the next time, please be safe out there. And
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: now you beautiful face in the next one, all right
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: bye