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Ian Furness 11/4 H1: Mike MacDonald delivers big news and Hugh Millen's here to help us make sense of it. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJRFM
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  Speaker 1: Cold as the Rocky, Seahawk News. Sam Darnold out this
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  Speaker 1: week with a quad injury. More in a second. Drew
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  Speaker 1: Locke is starting, but he's got an elbow injury. Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Milrow backing up again. They may add a number three quarterback, too.
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  Speaker 1: No other news on Kroshaheed Williams and other injuries too
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  Speaker 1: early in the week. Eagles are going to start Joe
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  Speaker 1: Milton on Sunday against the Giants. Tyler Huntley out for
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  Speaker 1: the season for the Ravens, who are now reportedly trading for....
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  Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: It just continues. Kraken hosts Calgary tonight at CPA. Game time,
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  Speaker 1: 7 pregame, 6.30 here on 93.3 KGRFM. So much for
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  Speaker 1: the 6.40 starts, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right? I almost wrote 6.40 and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I better double check.
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  Speaker 1: No, when Canadian teams play here, it's the second half
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  Speaker 1: of a Canadian national doubleheader and we all bow down
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  Speaker 1: to Canada.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently.
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  Speaker 1: College football playoff rankings came out last night. Miami 1,
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  Speaker 1: Georgia 2, Utah 3, Indiana, Alabama 5 with two losses?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're in the SEC. More on that coming
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  Speaker 1: up at 1 o'clock in the 1 o'clock hour with Mandel.
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  Speaker 1: Ems will introduce new manager Jason Kanzler today at 2.
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  Speaker 1: We'll carry it live.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Some Mike McDonald here right now, and then we're going
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  Speaker 1: to check in with Hugh Millen coming up at 1220 today.
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  Speaker 1: Our quarterback is going to talk about the Seahawks quarterback issues.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to college football later. 49451, that is Tacoma
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  Speaker 1: Dodge text line. We've got Factor Fiction at 235, Mandel
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  Speaker 1: on the 1 o'clock hour. Mariner News Conference at 2.
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  Speaker 2: Man, oh man. Oh, is that all? That's all.
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  Speaker 1: That's all we got going on today. If you missed
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  Speaker 1: it earlier, as I did as I was driving in
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  Speaker 1: and was listening and talking on the phone and doing
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  Speaker 1: some stuff, Mike McDonald with some big news moments ago.
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  Speaker 4: For all intents and purposes, it's a Wednesday at this point,
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  Speaker 4: so off we go. I did want to make an
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  Speaker 4: announcement before Sam injured his quad at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the game, so Sam's going to be out this week.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be week-to-week for Sam. He's not going to go
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  Speaker 4: on IR. Plan is for Drew to start. Jalen will
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  Speaker 4: be ready to back up. Drew's still working back from
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  Speaker 4: his elbow, so we'll work through that process this week.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be getting both guys ready to play. We have
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  Speaker 4: full confidence in those guys. We have a plan in place,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll go execute. In terms of Sam, this guy,
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  Speaker 4: he's tough as nails. I think the second play of
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  Speaker 4: the game I'm just asking if I could share this,
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  Speaker 4: but I cracked his ribbon on the second play of
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  Speaker 4: the game. Playing the whole game without even making a
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  Speaker 4: name of it and playing his tail off and competing,
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  Speaker 4: I just think it's worth noting how tough this guy is.
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  Speaker 4: He'll be back soon and later, I'm sure. You said
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  Speaker 4: it was a quad hit? Yeah, it's a quad, right?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know when that happened? I think it was
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  Speaker 4: right at the end. I think it was the last drive.
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  Speaker 2: What is Drew able to do and not do with
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  Speaker 2: the elbow right now?
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  Speaker 4: How is he coming along there? He's able to throw.
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  Speaker 4: How much, we're working through that right now. That's the
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  Speaker 4: best way to put it. It's a different injury than
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  Speaker 4: Sam had in the playoffs. He's going to throw the
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  Speaker 4: ball throughout the week, but we're just going to manage it.
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  Speaker 4: He's not going to take 8,000 throws. Do you need
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  Speaker 4: to add another quarterback this week? We might be adding
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Jalen will obviously get a lot of reps as well?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. They'll be splitting reps for a certain amount of time.
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  Speaker 4: I think we just have to take it kind of
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  Speaker 4: day by day at this point. But Jalen will take
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  Speaker 4: some practice reps as well. Today's a slow day, so
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to tell. We have a plan
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  Speaker 4: for Drew to get some live throws later. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's just one of those things like you just have
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  Speaker 4: to kind of work it day in, day out, and
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  Speaker 4: figure out what's the best way to get into Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Do you expect Charles Cross, Rashid Shaheed, Leonard Williams?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the rest of those guys, the guys that missed
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  Speaker 4: last game or didn't finish the game, really no update
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  Speaker 4: on that. Solo early. I'd say they all have a
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  Speaker 4: chance to play. We haven't rolled anybody out yet, so
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  Speaker 4: we'll see. Mike, what was Locke's injury and how much
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  Speaker 4: has he thrown in the last couple weeks? It's an
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  Speaker 4: elbow injury. All the fancy names, I can't explain that
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  Speaker 4: to you, but he hasn't thrown much.
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  Speaker 6: He got it when he was playing the two games
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  Speaker 6: in September?
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  Speaker 4: No, he got it like we practiced in the rain
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  Speaker 4: and he got it in a just kind of aggravated
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  Speaker 4: in a rain practice.
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  Speaker 3: Just to clarify, you say he's not going on IR,
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  Speaker 3: so just week to week he could play the following week?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Great table, obviously big ass to have a young player
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  Speaker 5: move from one side to the other and How do
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  Speaker 5: you guys think about it? You have Anthony there that's
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  Speaker 5: got some experience on the right side, or is it
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  Speaker 5: better for Gray to get the experience in live reps?
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  Speaker 5: How do you guys assess that situation?
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  Speaker 2: I think we.
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  Speaker 4: Had to make the decision and go. We're committed to that.
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  Speaker 4: We're confident in A.B. to go in and play good
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  Speaker 4: football for us, but also Gray's going to continue to
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  Speaker 4: get better as well. You understand that there's a process
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  Speaker 4: when you We've played a lot of games with our
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  Speaker 4: offensive line attack, maybe missing a guy here or there.
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  Speaker 4: Charles missed a couple games last year, but a lot
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  Speaker 4: of consistency and continuity at our offensive line position, which
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  Speaker 4: has been great. I think it's worth it when you
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  Speaker 4: bring in a guy like Quentin to add to the group.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's one of those guys that's going to
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  Speaker 4: be a force multiplier for our group, not just our
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  Speaker 4: offensive line, but really our whole offensive unit and our
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  Speaker 4: football team. It's worth that initial investment. Obviously, you want
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  Speaker 4: it to go quicker than not, but I think you
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  Speaker 4: also have to understand that there is a process involved.
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  Speaker 4: The guys are working their tails off. Again, they're constantly
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  Speaker 4: watching tape. They're getting after it. They're putting in the time.
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  Speaker 4: They're putting in the investment. I've got all the confidence
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  Speaker 4: in the world that we're going to have a heck
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  Speaker 4: of an offensive line unit. How did Nelson look when
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  Speaker 4: you went back and looked at the tape? I thought,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, considering the newness, he looked like Quentin Nelson,
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  Speaker 4: which is pretty cool. I think he did a lot
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  Speaker 4: of good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: In the run game, what did.
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  Speaker 1: You like about the way the running backs were used,
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  Speaker 1: or what would you like to see differently?
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  Speaker 4: Again, it's another example of, hey, there's some turnover there
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  Speaker 4: with guys that haven't had the reps. I mean, think
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  Speaker 4: of Sharps. He hasn't had a live rep since the injury, unfortunately, so.
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  Speaker 4: There's some good stuff. I think we can run the
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  Speaker 4: ball better as a unit. We need to be able
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  Speaker 4: to run the ball better. I think we can. The
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  Speaker 4: runners are a part of that, so they're part of
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  Speaker 4: that collective effort to improve and be more effective.
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  Speaker 2: It's the first time.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen that one-two combo of Charbonnet and Price on
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  Speaker 3: the field.
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  Speaker 1: Could you see glimpses of what you envision?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you go back, you watch the tape,
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  Speaker 4: the feeling that I had after, that we had after
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  Speaker 4: the game of like that, that wasn't, that wasn't the
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  Speaker 4: best version of us. And that's, that's, what's the most
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  Speaker 4: disappointing thing, you know? But having said that, I think
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  Speaker 4: our guys think there are, you know, I don't, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's not, it's disappointing as it is. It's frustrating.
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  Speaker 4: And as is, you know, as a coach, you get emotional. However,
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  Speaker 4: you do have, you do have to go in and,
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  Speaker 4: and identify that the positive things that do happen. It's
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  Speaker 4: not all, bad. There are good things that we can
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  Speaker 4: build off of, that we will build off of, that
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  Speaker 4: we've been able to generate up to this point. That's
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  Speaker 4: how you have to look at it. If you want
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  Speaker 4: to stay as steady as possible and you want to
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  Speaker 4: keep climbing and keep growing, I think that's the mentality
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  Speaker 4: you have to have.
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  Speaker 6: Mike, how valuable to the locker room and the psyche
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  Speaker 6: of the team is it what Drew did in September
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  Speaker 6: for you for.
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  Speaker 4: Two games there right now? I haven't thought about it
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  Speaker 4: like that because it's kind of like I think when
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  Speaker 4: we were Working through this, when Drew was to play,
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was very workmanlike with the group because
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  Speaker 4: of the confidence they've had in Drew, because of the
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  Speaker 4: training camp that he had and the football that he's
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  Speaker 4: played since he's been here. I haven't been around the
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  Speaker 4: guys since we left, so it'll be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm expecting it to feel the same.
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  Speaker 7: Mike, in your continuing improvement process, you talk about operations,
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  Speaker 7: improving those, and you can't give, you know, trade secrets,
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  Speaker 7: but when you look at the film, did you see
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  Speaker 7: anything about your operations that you needed to change or
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  Speaker 7: anything stick out for you?
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  Speaker 4: Um, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we, we need to be better operationally.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, I mean, like, We're not just
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  Speaker 4: going to go line up and snap the ball on
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  Speaker 4: the quick every snap, and we're not going to go
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  Speaker 4: on two every snap. We're not going to go on
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  Speaker 4: one every snap. But how we take the line, how
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  Speaker 4: we motion and shift, how we get in and out
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  Speaker 4: of plays, I think it has gotten better. There's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of plays where I feel us. I feel us
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  Speaker 4: taking the attack to the defense is how we want
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  Speaker 4: to play offense. Again, there's plays where that is, and
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  Speaker 4: there's plays where there isn't. So we've got to. We've
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  Speaker 4: got to focus on how we make our identity come
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  Speaker 4: to life from play to play, and let's be consistent
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  Speaker 4: over the course of the game. That's been a consistent
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  Speaker 4: message we've had.
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  Speaker 2: Throughout the season.
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  Speaker 4: I think we played probably our best game against Kansas City,
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  Speaker 4: and I was really excited for our unit to grow,
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  Speaker 4: and we didn't from our expectations. So we've got to
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  Speaker 4: go back to work and go figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: With the running backs that Zach started and Jadarian came
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  Speaker 3: in after that, is there sort of a desired snap
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  Speaker 3: count or pecking order.
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  Speaker 2: There at all?
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  Speaker 4: Well, again, without getting into pitch counts and what the
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  Speaker 4: plan is, but there are some constraints. on how much
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  Speaker 4: we can, you know, which is fair, you know, guys
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  Speaker 4: coming off injury. So there's things that we have to,
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  Speaker 4: that we're working through, which is the best interest of
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  Speaker 4: the players so we can have them for the long run.
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  Speaker 4: And so we have to work through those things as
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  Speaker 4: well as what our plan is for the players is
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  Speaker 4: how they work through the game. So it's not as
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  Speaker 4: straightforward as you might, you know, as a normal situation
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  Speaker 4: would be.
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  Speaker 2: How lessened are those constraints this week for Price?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know?
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  Speaker 4: They're lessened.
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  Speaker 5: You guys were one of the most efficient offenses in
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  Speaker 5: the first 15 scripted plays or 15 plays last year
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  Speaker 5: and not one of the most efficient this year. What
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  Speaker 5: do you think goes into an offense being really good
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  Speaker 5: in the first 15 plays?
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  Speaker 4: We talk about just our style of football here on
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  Speaker 4: our team and it starts with being decisive. If we
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  Speaker 4: can We've had some good starts. We've had several not
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  Speaker 4: as good starts as we want. I think it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of like defensively, we get to the red zone, we
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  Speaker 4: don't execute as well. We get drives extended offensively. There's
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  Speaker 4: kind of a comedy of things that have happened after
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  Speaker 4: the drive kind of gets off the ground for very
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  Speaker 4: different reasons. So we have to want a better job
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  Speaker 4: of understanding defensively you know, what we're getting to earlier
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  Speaker 4: in games and make sure everybody has a collective understanding
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  Speaker 4: about what we're doing, why we're doing it. And then
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  Speaker 4: also like, you know, the mental capacity to keep reattacking
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  Speaker 4: from play to play. So we understand we can, we
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  Speaker 4: can string a drive together and go put points on
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  Speaker 4: the board, but we definitely want to start faster for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Do you see that as more about what you guys are,
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  Speaker 5: how you're executing or that, that maybe defenses are giving
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  Speaker 5: you looks that you didn't expect or both?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you, you liked it.
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  Speaker 4: You like to always keep it in, in, um, in
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  Speaker 4: the world of like the things that you can control.
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  Speaker 4: So I think, I think, um, we're going to focus
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  Speaker 4: on us playing it, like executing it better and calling
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  Speaker 4: it better and game plan it better. First with the
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  Speaker 4: glute injury.
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  Speaker 1: Now the quad injury, just how have you seen Sam
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  Speaker 1: handle what's physically been a pretty challenging start to the season?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's, um, it's, it's been, it's tough, you know, but, uh,
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  Speaker 4: Just seeing him now, talking to him after the game,
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  Speaker 4: I know it's a challenge. I just got a lot
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  Speaker 4: of respect for how he goes through these things because
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  Speaker 4: he goes through it. There's no blink. There's no flinch.
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  Speaker 4: It's very matter-of-fact attacking mentality, which I think that's reflective
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  Speaker 4: of the rest of our team, which I appreciate.
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  Speaker 6: Did he report this after the game, or did you
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  Speaker 6: notice anything during it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, the quad was at the end, so we knew
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  Speaker 4: that was an issue at the end. I wasn't aware
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  Speaker 4: of the rib throughout the game until after.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it impacted, I mean, obvious question, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: but did that impact his play the rest.
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  Speaker 2: Of the game, or, I mean, with the rib?
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  Speaker 4: What do you think, Bob?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, your adrenaline's going, you know, I mean, he's tough,
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  Speaker 4: but like it's, Those hurt.
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  Speaker 6: As it stands now, which injury would likely keep him
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  Speaker 6: out longer or more healing?
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  Speaker 4: I think we could play through the rip.
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  Speaker 2: He could. I'd be fine.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't affect me. I don't want to speak for him,
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  Speaker 4: but right now it's the quad that's holding him out
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That's Mike McDonald. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: some insight. Hugh Millen, our quarterback, our QB1, joins us
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  Speaker 1: coming up next.
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  Speaker 2: All righty, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, crazy stuff going on today. We got, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: a Mariners news conference at 2, introducing the new manager.
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  Speaker 4: As if we didn't have enough.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of a wild one in this sense. Normally on
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  Speaker 1: a Wednesday, the Seahawks news conference with Mike McDonald is
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  Speaker 1: at 12 o'clock, about 1210 or so. We monitor it.
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  Speaker 1: We just kind of wait and see what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Greg's out there. He has to cover it, so we
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  Speaker 1: carried it live, and I'm glad we did today because
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  Speaker 1: lo and behold, we find out your starting quarterback, your
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning quarterback, is out week to week with
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  Speaker 1: both a rib and a quad injury. So Hugh Millen,
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  Speaker 1: our QB1, is here because there's a lot to dive
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  Speaker 1: into because it's not as simple as just say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Drew Locke, you're the guy. We loved what you did
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  Speaker 1: earlier this year. especially against arizona but that'd be fine
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  Speaker 1: except for drew lock also has an elbow issue so
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  Speaker 1: hugh quite the day so far here in.
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  Speaker 6: Seahawk land huh yeah and i thought just my initial
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  Speaker 6: impressions i thought mike mcdonald sounded more subdued yes than
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  Speaker 6: i've ever heard him when he took the mic there
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  Speaker 6: was a i don't say somber that might be too
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  Speaker 6: strong of an adjective but uh there was definitely a
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to say grim, just, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Subdued would probably be my.
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  Speaker 6: Best adjective to describe his press conference today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to actually, I'm going to have Ashley call
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  Speaker 1: this up because there's something else that jumped out at
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  Speaker 1: me and just the first few seconds of it that
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  Speaker 1: we carried.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have it, Ash? All right.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you when to stop, but just go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and put, just take a close listen to this for
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  Speaker 1: a second.
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  Speaker 4: For all intents and purposes, it's a Wednesday at this point.
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  Speaker 4: So off we go. I did want to make an
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  Speaker 4: announcement before, uh, Sam, um, Sam injured his quad at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the game, so Sam's going to be
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  Speaker 4: out this week. It'll be week-to-week for Sam. He's not
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  Speaker 4: going to go on IR. Plan is for Drew to start.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen will be ready to back up. Drew's still working
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  Speaker 4: back from his elbow, so we'll work through that process
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  Speaker 4: this week. We'll be getting both guys ready to play.
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  Speaker 4: Got full confidence in those guys.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's the start of it. I'll tell you what jumped
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  Speaker 1: out at me too, Hugh. This is something sometimes those
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  Speaker 1: guys would hide. And I don't want to say hide.
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  Speaker 1: There was really no reason for Mike McDonald to say that.
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  Speaker 1: They practice later. They'll put the injury report. And if
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  Speaker 1: I had a dollar for every time we get an
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: injury report on a Wednesday after we've heard from... And
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: this isn't not just Mike. It was Pete Carroll, too.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And you're like, wait, what?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: So-and-so's out? But it wasn't asked, right? No one would
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: have asked if Sam Darnold was healthy.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: Agreed. There's some similarities with last week with the Huskies.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: Is DeMond going to start? Is Elijah Brown going to start?
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: One of the things I would consider if I was
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: a head coach is the likelihood of a leak. If
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: you're just cold shutting Sam Darnold out and he's not practicing,
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: and the only guys getting reps with the number ones
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: are either Drew Locke or Jalen Milrow, Just the idea
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: that that's not going to leak. And then what are
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: you going to do? Tell all the players, hey, don't
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: mention to your family because somebody's liable. I don't know.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I think they just felt like this is– Well, they
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: got in front of it. They definitely got in front
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of it. And the way I bring that up is
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: that quarterback's probably different, like you said, than another position.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: But there have been plenty of times when there's been
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: a guy that we had no– because no one had
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: any idea that Sam was hurt. And McDonald would speak
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: again on Friday. The injury report could come out today.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: And we don't– when we're out there at practice on
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: a Wednesday– I'm not there today, but normally I am–
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: we only see the first five minutes. And there's a
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: lot of times the guys aren't all out there when
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: we come out. He just goes right after it, and
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you're right, he sounded somber. So let's go through this.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: First of all, Sam Darnold's injury, and it's two because
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: we should mention the quad, but he also hurt his
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: rib on the second play of the game. But McDonald
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: did emphasize it is the quad that is going to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: keep him out for at least this week, and we'll see.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So thoughts on that, first of all, before we.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Get to Drew Locke.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got thoughts. My Sam Darnold, first of all,
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: let me clarify my prior thought. When DeMond was co-practicing
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: with Elias Brown, you can you can maintain that secrecy.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: But presumably, Darnold, you're just going to shut him down.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: And so there's the distinction in my mind. As for–
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: this is the third soft tissue injury that we've had
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: with Sam Darnold in less than a year. He had
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: the oblique at the end of last year. He played
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: through it, and he played great. Then he had the glute,
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: the upper– I believe it was the– We always think
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: of the gluteus maximus. We've heard about that. But there's
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: the gluteus, the medial gluteus. Probably butchered that. But the
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: upper butt towards the hip. But that's soft tissue. And
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: then now this, another soft tissue with the quad. So
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: I don't really know what to draw from that other
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: than he's had a lot of soft tissue injuries in
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: less than a year. Is he prone to that? I
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: don't know at what point you say he's prone to
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: that or whether you just say they're just kind of
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: one offs that happened to happen. But, you know, it's
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: a little bit concerning. And then as far as the
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: cracked rib, I don't know. It kind of ticks me
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: off because because when Mike McDonald says we got to
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: get back to doing the things that winning teams do.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: You're the second play of the game, which ostensibly is scripted.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: It's the first pass of the game, and you're in
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: a right formation. It's an under front. This is like...
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: First day of minicamp front, so nobody's fooled with the
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: under front. And then I'm going to use the word solid,
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to use it in two terms. One
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: is the generic term that we all use, like, okay,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: we got to be solid in the kicking game. It's
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: just kind of a nebulous adjective for we got to
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: be good, right? Just we got to be solid, right?
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: You know, solid in the running. Let's have a solid
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: running game. But then I'm going to use solid in
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: a much more specified football term, which is solid protection.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: If you brought Mike Holmgren on and said, what is
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: solid protection or many other– everybody in the football world
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: knows solid protection is a seven-man front. The back's got
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: the will. The line has the mic. Will is the
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: weak side linebacker. And then whether it's the running back
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: or whether it's the tight end in the formation, in
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: the personnel– then he's got the Sam backer and it's
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: an under front. Chicago's playing a three deep three under
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: fire zone. It's like America's, uh, zone blitz. And, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: we turned Kyler Gordon, the former Husky, totally Scott free and, uh,
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: AJ Barner, you've got the Sam backer and, and to
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: whiff on that and to allow Sam Darnold to get
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: smoked the way he did, the way he landed on
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: his side, there was a big, uh, uh, a threat
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: of having a, a, a separated shoulder, but as it was,
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: he cracks his rib and, uh, you know, and that,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: and you throw on George Solani, uh, he, he, uh,
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: he whiffed on a, uh, a blitz pickup on the
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: fourth play of the game against new England. So now
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Sam Darnold is missing time because of protections. Now you're
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: going to say this, he's not missing because of the,
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: the rib injury, but it's impacting his play. Uh, you can, as,
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: as you heard, Mike McDonald say, you can, You can
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: play through a lot with adrenaline. I'm not going to
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: go through my list in my career.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: But I've been there with, okay, these injuries, the SC separation,
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: the last play of the half against UCLA. Their adrenaline
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: gets you through it, plus an injection. But then the
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: next morning, and I've had others besides what I just said,
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: but the next morning, now all of a sudden, the
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: body just is yanking at you in ways that you
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: never experienced the night before. And so at this juncture,
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, you know what Sam Darnold is doing
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: right now? He is praying on his knees that he
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: doesn't sneeze. Like that's, that's the, the nature of, of
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: a cracked rib.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: And, and so he battled through it, not pleasant, not fun.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: It's going to be an issue he deals with for
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: a few weeks now. Injections can take you some of
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: the way, but not all the way. And so, you know,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: that's my, That's my thoughts about Sam Donald. Seattle's got
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: to be better around him. And for the Seahawks to
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: totally airball a Sam backer blitzing off a simple under
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: front in solid protection, that's a no bueno. That's got
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: to stop. And we've got to coordinate the offense better
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: so that we're ready for that. And then we've got
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: to have our head in the game, the players. And
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: I love A.J.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Barner.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: He's one of my favorite Seahawks. So it's hard to say.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: So I'm only isolating A.J. Barner on that play. That
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: is not an overall commentary. I'm damn glad he's a
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: Seattle Seahawk. But he's got to be better in that moment.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: He's got to be a lot better. And so at
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: any event, that's kind of summarizing my thoughts about him.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: All right. Hugh Millen joining us. I want to get
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: to Drew Locke and the elbow and lean on you
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: for that in a second. Before I do that, let
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: me give you a separate little topic here. And I
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: think more than anything, I think we need to just
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: kind of squelch something. end it, and then we can
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: move on. And what it is, is this you.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Because the world we live in now with social media
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff, there's a lot, well,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it's a soft benching, it's this, it's that. I would
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: dance to a point with people on that, if not
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: for the Drew Locke injury, which again, we'll get to
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: in a second. But I would assume you share my
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: same thoughts. There ain't no way in a must-win next
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: two weeks before you get to a bye week, that
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is sitting out, and they were going with
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a banged-up Drew Locke and potentially a Jalen Milrow third-string situation.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, this is legit. So you want
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to just squelch that for everybody right now, please?
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Well, I can give you my take. I can't speak
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: in factual terms, but my take is this. Sigmund Freud
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: is arguably— the most famous what psychiatrist, psych, not psychologist,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: psychiatrist in history.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And, and he had these weird ideas.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, I took a elective, uh, you know, I'm not,
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: I wasn't a psych major or anything, but I, you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: at some point we're all exposed to a little bit
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: and we know about all of, uh, you know, the,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: how everything's a phallic symbol and, and, and, and you're
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: tying everything to, uh, you know, just weird, you know, sexual, uh,
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: drives and, and somehow that's deemed to be credible. But
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: Sigmund Freud also said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: And right now, I feel like sometimes a quarterback injury
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: is just a quarterback injury. And he's got two of them.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: I think it's nonsense. That would be my take. I
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: can't prove it. I can't falsify it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: And you lay out incredibly compelling evidence for that point
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: when considering the health status of drew Locke.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: That bears incredible relevance to squelching the conspiracy theory. So
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: I think it's nonsense, even in the absence of that
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: evidence of, of drew Locke, because that's just not how
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks do business. And I saw, I saw Sam
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: Darnold limping around at the end of the game. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: I saw him get smoked on the second play of
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: the game. So even if Drew Locke was perfectly healthy,
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: I would think the conspiracy is nonsense. But now I
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: add a further layer of certainty in my own mind
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: about that being nonsense. So that's my take.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I would agree. Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just it's. At some point, I like that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: The cigar is a cigar. And at some point, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: at some point, the guy's hurt.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: It's not a phallic symbol. It's just a cigar. It's
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: just a cigar. And I do like the phallic symbol. Well,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I couldn't.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: If you gave me a blank paper and said write
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: an essay about the weird. sexual innuendos of his human
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: psychology and motivation, I'd get an F.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But I know it's weird as hell. Anyways,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: sorry to go off on that tangent. The whole point
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: of bringing up Sigmund.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: Freud is even as weird as he was and able
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: to concoct all of these strange theories, even he said
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Like, nonsense. Stop.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: Don't look for anything more. And so that's the analogy
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: of my story. So I apologize.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: No, I like it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: All my Wazoo friends, about 80% of Wazoo at some
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: point took a class, Psychology 230. It was human sexuality.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: It was called Dirty 230. That's all I could think
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of was Dirty 230. That's all I could think of
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: was Dirty 230. Every Wazoo person that took that, you
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Dirty 230. That's the psychology
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: elect if you want it again.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's a cigar. Light it and smoke it. That's it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: That's all. Don't read anything else into it. I could
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: also tell you that's a class no one ever skipped. Okay,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: let me... Even after a big night on a Wednesday
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: for an exchange with a sorority.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this. I want to take an early
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: break here because I want to come back. I want
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time on this. When we
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: come back, Hugh, let's talk about Drew Locke, the elbow
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: he hurt in practice we now hear when it was raining.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: We don't know the extent of it or anything like that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: We just know that they're going to limit him. What
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: does that mean for Drew Locke? What does that mean
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: for the offense and what they want to do? And, Hugh,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: what does it mean if Jalen Milrow ends up having
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to play on Sunday? And the only reason I'm even
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: going to bring that up and approach that is because
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald talked about the possibility they're going to look
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: into signing another quarterback, which tells me that there is
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: enough concern. Can't prove it, like you said, but that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: tells me there's enough concern that they may need someone
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to back up Milrow on Sunday. Let's get into all
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: that coming up next. News today, Sam Darnold will miss
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: at least this week's game. Quad and rib injuries. Quad
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: is the most severe one, or the one they're saying is.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Keeping him out.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Drew Locke will start, we think, we hope, we would expect,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: but he also has an elbow injury. He has been
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: inactive in the emergency third quarterback the last two weeks.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Apparently hurt that in practice when it was wet. So, Hugh,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: let's start there. I mean, Drew Locke's numbers this season,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: 35 for 48, 422 yards, 73% completion percentage. Four touchdowns,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: no interceptions. He was impressive in the limited time he
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: got in the first game in three quarters.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: What have you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: He'll perhaps be going, but you hear elbow and a quarterback,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you think, oh, that's not the greatest thing in the world.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: I just go back to some of my memories about
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: quarterbacks who've had this issue. Basically, you're talking about One
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: of two things, if you remember quarterback injuries, and we'll
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: get to them. You got the UCL, the ulnar collateral
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: ligament on the inside. That's a ligament that holds the
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: elbow joint together. But you also have flexor tendons that
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: let the forearm muscles snap the wrist on the throw.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: So there is a group of quarterbacks that we probably
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: remember some of these injuries. Remember Brock Purdy in the NFC?
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: He tore his UCL. and missed the rest of the
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: NFC Championship game because of the offseason. He missed zero
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: regular seasons of the games the year before. Jake DeLome
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: played in the Super Bowl. He missed 13 games in
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: the rest of the 2007 season. Carson Palmer missed 12 games.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: Josh Allen didn't miss any games. Now, again, those were
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: UCL issues. Now, the following list are guys that just
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: wore out their elbow from throwing. Terry Bradshaw had the
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: flexor pronator muscles of his inside of his elbow. He
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: missed the first 14 games of 1983, then played one game,
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: and then retired.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It ended his career.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: And by the way, an interesting side note to that one,
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Bradshaw got surgery in Shreveport, Louisiana, where he's from. And
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: this is back in 1983. And he checked into the
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: hospital in an alias.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: You know what his alias was?
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: What?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. Get it? TB,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw? Yeah. He checked.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: His alias was Tom Brady, but I move on. Joe
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Montana missed 31 straight games in 91-92. This is just
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: common flexure torn. Now, his torn off the bone, but
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: that was a long recovery before he eventually got traded
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: to the Chiefs. And then one more, Ben Rocklessburg. missed
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: the final 14 games of 2019. So these repetitive throwing
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: injuries are no joke. And in fact, the list that
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: I gave you for repetitive throwing, the Bradshaw-Montana-Rothlisberger list, the
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: minimum games that they missed was more than than any
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: of the actual specific injury, like getting hit on the arm, guys,
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: because the most anybody missed in that list was 13
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: games and the least anybody missed in the repetitive throwing list.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: was 14 games with Bradshaw. Am I making sense? Which
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: is all to say, okay, this is legit. Now, my
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: own experience, my kid going into ninth grade, I was
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: just saying, hey, toughen up. He was saying, my elbow hurts. Well,
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: then I had some real attention from medical, and they said,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: you better shut him down or he's going to tear
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: this thing right off the bone. Now, there was growth injuries.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: So his entire ninth grade year, he played wide receivers.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Like we just shut him down from throwing. So this, this,
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: and then for me, I had never experienced, I played
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: 25 years of football and then through coaching another 24 seasons,
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: I threw a lot of footballs in my life, never
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: had the issue. And then, and then I, I threw
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: a weighted ball a couple of times that's supposed to,
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: to strengthen your arm. Let me tell all the dads of,
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: of quarterbacks out there, do not have your kid throw
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: a weighted ball because for the first time in my life,
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: Throwing the weighted ball caused the inside of my elbow
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: to inflame, and it hurt for like eight months to
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: throw around. And so why do I bring that up?
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Because Mike McDonald brought it up in the press conference today. Now,
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: he didn't say that Drew Locke was throwing a weighted ball,
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: but he said it was a wet day.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: In my past life, I've done– A football weighs about
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: 15 ounces if you put it on a scale. Now,
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: that's different than the air pressure, which is mandated at
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: 13 PSI. That's pounds per square inch. So I'm not
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: talking about the pressure in the ball. I'm talking about
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: just the weight. Have done a simulated rain test, put
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: them in tanks and what have you. If you grow
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: the ball from 15 ounces to 20 ounces, it feels
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: like you doubled the weight.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: So when Mike McDonald said it was a rain day,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: he was throwing, Drew Locke was throwing with a heavy ball.
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: I just told you the experience that I had that
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: finally for the first time in my life, I experienced
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: pain having thrown a heavy ball. Now, the ball I
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: was throwing, I should have weighed it, but I know
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: it was more than 20 ounces. But that ball probably
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: gained up to, it could be as much as half
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: of its weight. that could have been well over 20
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: ounces and that would, that would definitely be enough to
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: cause some injury. And I, and we've already gone through
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: the list of how this can be serious. So, so
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: in my opinion, this is no joke and it is
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: further evidence that there, we can, we can just totally
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: put the lid on the conspiracy soft benching Sam for
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: Sam Darnold. And, and unless you say you want to
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: see Jalen Milrow come out, I mean, it's like the, the,
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: Seattle has some quarterback health problems right now, and neither
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: of them are really serious because they're not season-ending or career-injuring,
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: but all of them are at least moderately concerning, right?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know the extent or the pain and all
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that stuff that Locke's going through.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: When they're game-planning, though, let's assume he's in some way limited.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: How does this change what they do? Well, there's a
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: lot of things that are going to be different for
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Drew Locke. First of all, he stepped in the fifth
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: play of the season, which was right off the heels
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of training camp. In training camp, he was getting a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: lot of reps. A lot of times, you go four
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: reps for the starters, maybe six reps for the starters,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: then six for the backup, and maybe two for the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: third string guy. Drew Locke was getting a lot of
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: reps in training camp. freshly before having to play in
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: week one and week two. The longer you go throughout
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the season, you're not getting reps with your guys. Now
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: you're scout team quarterbacking, so you're staying fresh and you're
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: going against the number one defense, so you're saying sharpen that,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: but you're throwing to the reserves. It's not your offense.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: It's the simulated offense. But if they've shut him down,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: which we know they have over the last few weeks,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: he's not as sharp because he hasn't been throwing. He's
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: not as sharp because he's not on the heels of
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: training camp.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: So those are two issues. And then what's his discomfort
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: level going into this thing? Is he going to rip
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: the ball? I mean, that Cardinal game, he had some incredible,
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: just real arm talent throws off to the left, far hash,
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: under duress, smoking comebacks. His arm strength was on display.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: And so now how is he physically? How is he mentally?
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: Does he feel like he can rip those throws, or
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: is he more likely to check it down? You know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: guys do crazy things. I had a year with the
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: Broncos where I had a grade one separation of my
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: AC at the end of training camp. I didn't really
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: want to tell the trainers that. And because I didn't
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: want him to go get another quarterback. So I remember,
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: so our first game was against the Chargers. I'm backing
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: up John Elway. I think it was on Sunday night football.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: Might've been Monday night, but it was a night game.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: And I remember just like one of two games in
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: my life where I've sat there on the sideline and
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: praying that I'm not going in. Cause I know I'm not,
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: I'm a hundred percent. Now I could have gutted it out,
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: but in practice that week, I was just kind of
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: checking it down, throwing the swing outs, lobbing it out there.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: I didn't want to rip it. Because it was uncomfortable. Now,
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: I think by week two or week three, I was fine.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: And then I could go back to throwing with whatever
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: my velocity was. But my point in saying that is
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: Drew Locke may be in the pocket. And the throw
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: that he made against the Cardinal throws, plural, that he
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: made against Farhash ripping deep out routes, he may feel
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: like I can't.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: And he may be more likely to check it down
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: to the running back just so that he doesn't have
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: a throw that yanks on, you know, that, that, you know,
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: it's not a case of causing discomfort. You don't feel
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: like you can execute it. Like, Hey, am I going
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: to have my normal velocity or is the ball going
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: to hang and float? You know, and you're used to,
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: you know, throwing out and timing, you know, my out route. Okay. I,
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: this is where I normally put the ball. Well, now
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden I have to adjust and I
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: have to throw it farther out in front because I
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: don't have the same velocity. I mean, you know, there's
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: a challenge mentally and, of course, physically for him.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you, I got about two minutes left here,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: so just real quick. If they have to play Jalen Milrow,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: you saw him in the preseason, you saw him up
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: here at training camp.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Thoughts on that?
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: Well, his last game went a long way. The last
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: preseason game he was very good. Up to that, it
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: had been a disappointment. You almost think, hey, are they
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: just going to fold their cards on this guy and
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: just punt? But then he had a hell of a
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: preseason game. But in no way is he really.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Ready to play at the level of Drew Locke or
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Sam Darnold, in my opinion. Now, if he had to play,
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: then the Seahawks are going to have to do what
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: Ohio State didn't do against USC last Saturday, which is
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: we don't have Julian saying everybody else has to pick
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: it up. The defense has to be more ferocious. We
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: have to be more tenacious in the running game because
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: We don't.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Have the quarterback.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: You have to lift the– everybody has to lift up
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: the backup quarterback. So if Millerell has to play, the
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: Cardinals are a good team to have to go against.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: They're probably going to get a lift with Minshew psychologically,
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: but you've got to squelch that idea in the first quarter,
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: and then everybody has to pick it up if Millerell
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: has to play.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Well– Pardon me. No, no problem. I mean, it's– The
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Great Unknown.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And we'll find out all these answers on Sunday and
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: see what happens. But boy, oh boy, Hugh, what a
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: newsy day. Great stuff with you. I appreciate it, as always.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Of course. We'll get them. Hey, you know, at least
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: it's the Cardinals.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one thing. Although, yeah, it's interesting. I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen this. They're trading Jacoby Brissett
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to Baltimore. So they're definitely moving on. So it's going
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: to be something. I would prefer to play Brissett.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I would have too. I said that to Ashley earlier.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I said that. There was a play.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: There was a play in week two where the Cardinals
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: were back on the goal. I know we're up against, but,
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: but the Seahawks, all four guys that they rushed started
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: on Brissette's left side. They would just be inviting an
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: athletic quarterback to escape to the right.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody rushed from the center over to the right.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: And.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: And then somehow they still got a little bit of pressure,
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: and Bursette, he's just not creative. He's not athletic enough
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: to have burned them. And I thought, like, you could
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: go 10 years and not see another rush like that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: All four Seahawks rushers starting from the left side of
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: the offensive line to a right-handed quarterback.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: So he's just not a playmaker and I would have
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: preferred to play him this Sunday. I would have too.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: What, what Minshew's proven over the years, he'll give you,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: he can give you a game or two. You don't
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: want him, you don't want him for 17 necessarily, but
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: he can give you a game or two. And we,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and we saw that against, and we saw that against Dallas.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, you, you, you, well, you know, his career
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: better than me, but, but I'll just close with this.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: John Clayton, who used to grace our airwaves.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He had a great line.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: He says, if, if, With a backup quarterback, if he
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: plays three games, he can win three games. That same guy,
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: if he plays six games, he can win three games.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: That's a good point.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: The more he plays, the more it's going to level out.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: But you know what?
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Week one, you know, I'm sure the Cardinals feel like
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: they're going to get a lift from him. And so
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: we got to stop that right now.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, Dick Baird.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: We've got to stop that right now. That's our guy,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen. I'm hoping no more breaking news. I love
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: talking to you, but I'm hoping I don't talk to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you again until Hardcore Football on Monday, all right?
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: See you, buddy. Hammer down. There you go. That's Hugh
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Millen joining us here. Great stuff.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Big news again today. Sam Darnold out this week for
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks week to week with a couple of injuries,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: quad and rib. We'll take a break, come back. We
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: still have some college football to get to, and we'll
• 43:10
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• 43:12
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