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Haunted Port Townsend: Ghosts of Manresa Castle | Espooky Tales · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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At least it didn't like crawl in the covers next to her though. Maybe it was trying to be respectful but also like wanted to be fun.
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That sounds horrifying. Oh my god. I don't care. I can't. I can't. No. I wouldn't buy a little kid to cuddle with me.
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Take it back!
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Oh my god.
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This is why you slept on the couch. It's a big nope. It just needs love.
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Oh my god. You're a mother. I don't care. Not to a ghost baby. I'm a mothering ghost children. Fuck them. Fuck them kids.
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I got you. I got you guys.
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Hi Caitlyn. Hi Cassie. Hi creepy people. Hello. Also wait. We forgot to say hi to somebody. Hi Cristina.
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Oh hi again. She's back. She hasn't left. She's been with us the entire time.
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I actually just moved in. Yeah. Right after we got back from the lighthouse, I got my bag and I walked in.
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Yeah. So you know get ready for the third co-host on PNW Haunts and Homicides. We've added another.
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Yeah. It won't be confusing at all because it's obviously Cassie, Caitlyn, Cristina, very easy.
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Like what could go wrong? Right.
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I can bumping her mic. That could go wrong. Dump up it more.
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Well, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides. Whoops.
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Where we chat about true crime, the paranormal and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode so that we can get a little bit of deeper insight into our topic.
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So stick around if you are into that. Are you into it Cristina?
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You know it. You know it. She is into it. We do know it.
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We tested her already. She's cool.
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Well, so do you guys remember that little trip that we took not that long ago?
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Wait, what trip? Did we go to a lighthouse? We did. We went to Port Townsend Washington.
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Oh, I must have blacked out for a minute because like just all the driving.
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Well, hopefully they remember it. You blacked out while you were driving?
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Not while I was driving.
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Okay, good.
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No, I think part of me wanted to definitely black out parts of that trip though because it was such a long drive.
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Yeah, yeah. If felt like the longest drive ever.
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Well, I know. I know.
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We both mapped and came up with like a fucking nature guy.
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Eventually I just turned on other podcasts and like music and I was like, I don't fucking care if it keeps you awake.
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It didn't. I know. She was driving.
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I'm one of those people that can fall asleep anywhere.
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It's true. I wonder what that's like. It's awesome. It is.
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I'll never know.
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Yeah, so we went on this trip to Port Townsend Washington which is like super haunted and we talked about the lighthouse already
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and the keeper's duplex, but we're also going to talk about another place that we visited while we were there.
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Who likes castles, you guys?
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I love a castle.
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Me too. Me too.
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I'm just like looking at each of you to answer me.
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It's a real trifecta.
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Well, luckily for us in all of you there is a castle in Port Townsend Washington.
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That there is.
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In 1892, an innovative, innovative, innovative, innovative, innovative, innovative.
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In 1892, an innovative, luxurious, three story, 30 room, family home was finished for Charles and Kate Eisenbeis.
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I'm sorry, a 30 room, family home.
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Just a casual.
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Can you guys picture how many broadcast studios you could have?
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Oh my god. Yeah.
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I'm just thinking about like, that's a lot of pressure for Kate at the family home.
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I didn't write this down, but I think that originally they did want it to be like a hotel, but things weren't working out.
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So they just made it their home.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I mean, it was kind of fuzzy information, so I don't really leave it in, but I'm just going to say it for you guys now.
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Just not really sure of the facts.
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I like it.
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Take it.
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Take it.
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She will.
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You know, go find my sources.
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Okay.
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But if this was a year earlier, so in 1891, it would have been Charles and Elizabeth's family home.
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Oh.
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Elizabeth Charles's first wife, unfortunately, passed away before the house was finished.
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And he very quickly, it seems, took a new wife.
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Yeah.
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I don't like the way I put that one.
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I just took a new wife.
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I like to think that she had a saying that's what you think.
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And then maybe she didn't have a saying, but wow, a year later.
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Yeah.
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That's, yeah.
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I think either way, Cristina makes a good point.
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It's that's a year later.
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Okay.
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After your whole ass wife dies.
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Well, the entire wife.
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Yeah.
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The entirety of your wife.
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Wow.
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You have to move on at some point.
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Yeah.
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Although that's a fast.
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I don't know.
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It's also quick.
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I like, I don't know where he found the time to date because like in today's world, he had
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many side hustles.
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Oh, we can all relate, I think.
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Side hustle king.
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Okay.
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He had a bakery, a brewery, a brick factory, a bank, and that's a lot of b's.
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Yeah.
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Quite a lot.
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He also had a lumber mill.
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He had another hotel.
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And he also, I also heard he had a podcast.
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So, wow.
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Well, that's pretty cool.
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Was it about fight hustling?
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Yeah.
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His podcast was about having a bakery, a brewery, a brick factory, and a bank.
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It was called B-squared.
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Was it about diversifying your income streams?
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Yes.
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Exactly.
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It would have had to offend.
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Obviously, right?
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Yup.
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He was an expert.
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Clearly.
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Oh, yeah.
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And he was the town's first mayor.
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What the hell?
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What did he not do?
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That's my question.
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Nothing.
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He did not do nothing.
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He did it all.
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Anyway, back to the big old house.
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So, actually, because it was so huge, and it had turrets and towers,
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modeled after European castles, people referred to it as the Eisenbeis castle.
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Oh.
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Okay.
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It's very castle-like.
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We saw.
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We did.
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Yeah.
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Charles got a great 10 years with his castle before he passed.
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Then, within a few years, it was abandoned to only per see the caretaker,
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when Kate remarried and promptly vacated the premises.
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Oh.
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Oh.
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Interesting.
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There's a lot of dying and remarrying in this story.
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Yeah.
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So, about 20 years later, and this is kind of weird, you guys?
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An attorney from Seattle bought the castle.
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Any guesses on what he planned to do with it?
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Something weird.
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Something kind of weird, I think.
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Okay.
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So, keep in mind, he's an attorney.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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A prison.
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Maybe close?
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I don't know.
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Wait, what?
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So, he wanted to use it as a vacation destination for nuns?
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That is very random.
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He's an attorney.
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He bought this castle for vacation for nuns.
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That's a very niche plan for a rental property.
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How profitable is that you'll find out he clearly wasn't taking lessons.
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He was not listening to Mr. Eisenbeis' podcast about profitable income streams.
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That's exactly what it was.
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Yeah.
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So, he thought there were so many nuns teaching in Seattle, and you know, they work really hard.
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Okay.
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And he thought, you know, maybe they just wanted a little nun fun.
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You have a nun fun.
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A nun fun.
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A nun fun.
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They needed a little vacation spot.
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And I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting a real, like, sister act vibe from the past.
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Yeah.
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Have you guys seen that?
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Yeah.
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So, I grew up on that movie.
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It's good stuff.
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I've only seen it in Spanish because it was on Telemundo, like, as a rerun, a lot.
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Oh, that's so cool, though.
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It's such a good movie.
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But, like, they get up to some shenanigans.
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So, I feel like that's what the nuns would do in this castle.
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Shenanigans.
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Shenanigans.
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Shenanigans.
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Anywho.
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As totally awesome as that all sounded, apparently the nuns just didn't want to hang and do they
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even take vacations?
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Right.
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I feel like they're just always serving the Lord.
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They're not trying for vacations.
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As one does.
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Yeah.
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As one does.
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They said, no vacation.
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Thanks.
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And he had to sell the castle to some Jesuit priests.
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Because they like to party, you know, you know, they do.
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That is what they're known for.
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Yeah.
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It wasn't a vacation spot for them, though.
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I'll tell you what they did with it.
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They used it as a training college.
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Oh, boy.
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Train more Jesuits.
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Oh.
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Okay.
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And they made some upgrades.
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They gave her a new name.
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Manresahal.
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Oh.
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Named after a city in Barcelona, Spain.
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Oh, Barcelona.
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Thank you.
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I was going to be the actual--
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I was going to be the actual--
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Right.
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I’m using a Spanish accent because they don't say--
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I would say Barcelona normally, but they're like, oh, Barcelona.
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Barcelona.
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It's like with a TH.
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Yeah.
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I'm so bad at it.
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I'm so glad you're here for this.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Where?
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St. Ignatius of Loyola.
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Loyola?
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Oh, yeah.
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Loyola.
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Loyola.
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Super long story short.
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But he basically came up with the foundations for the Society of Jesus, aka the Jesuits.
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I literally fell down the deepest fucking rabbit hole with this dude.
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And I called him a dude bro in here.
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I don't know why.
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But I feel like I get like dude bro vibes from him.
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That makes sense.
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It'll make more sense.
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But I'm going to have--
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Okay.
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You say his real giving name for me because I'm going to just butcher it.
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Okay.
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So you're getting dude bro vibes from Íñigo López de Oñaz y Loyola?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I'm not getting dude bro vibes from the name alone.
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You'll see why.
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Okay.
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But also, when I saw his name, I thought of my name is Inigo Montoya.
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You killed my father.
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Oh.
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I love that movie.
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And I did not realize that that was Mandy Patinkin from Criminal Minds.
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Oh.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I didn't know that was him until like two years ago.
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And I was like, oh my god.
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I figured that out too.
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I love him even more now.
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Yeah.
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I love him even more now.
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I always loved him.
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That explains a lot.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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I love you guys for getting my references because like not a lot of people like that movie.
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What the fuck?
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That's the best movie ever.
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I know.
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Have you guys read the book?
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No.
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Oh.
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So good, even funnier.
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They're both amazing.
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You know people are like, oh, the book is better than the movie or the movie with a bit in the book.
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Like, no, these are on par with each other.
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Oh my god.
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I have to read it now.
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You do.
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It's my, I have Libby.
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I'm going to borrow it from the library.
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They have it.
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There you go.
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I love Libby.
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I'm obsessed.
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Libby is the queen.
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I don't need to buy books anymore.
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I just get them from Libby.
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Unless I'm too excited.
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I'm not going to be impatient to wait that I'm not my audible.
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Yeah, right.
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Yeah, right.
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But I'm going to tell you about the dude, bro.
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Yeah, tell us about Íñigo.
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Montoya.
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No, that one.
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What's the thing you want to do?
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Something lo yola.
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Something something something lo yola.
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Delo yola.
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La llorona.
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Sorry.
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Go on.
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Oh, I just had it.
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I was like, no.
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She was a nun, right?
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Or no.
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That was in that that, uh, uh, condering one of the condering world movies.
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I'm thinking of where there was like a creepy nun.
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There was a creepy nun in, yeah.
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I don't know why you get them confused.
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The nun.
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You mean the nun.
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Yeah.
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The movie the nun.
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I'm like, it's called it's the, you know, one of those movie literally called the nun.
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The one that's called the nun.
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Oh, boy.
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So he created the Jesuits and then became its first superior general.
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Like superior general.
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Seriously.
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I mean, I didn't know they had that term.
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Right.
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I guess they have to like order their ranks in some manner.
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So I guess, but to like call it something like that.
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It's just a little over the top.
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It is.
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But then as I'm falling down this man's Wikipedia rabbit hole.
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I see his military career.
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Oh, okay.
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Oh, the starting to make sense.
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So I guess he was a page.
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And I'm going to quote Wikipedia here because I didn't obviously I didn't deep dive on this
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because like who has the fucking time.
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So I just, I just read the Wikipedia page.
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Okay.
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Don't at me or whatever people say.
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But I couldn't not talk about it because it's crazy.
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Okay.
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Quote.
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In Yiga took a dancing, fencing, gambling the pursuit of young lady.
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And dueling.
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Okay.
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More dueling.
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We just talk about dueling.
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Okay.
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The Cheeto duels.
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Yeah.
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But he wasn't like a Jesuit priest himself, right?
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Not at this time.
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He was, he was a page.
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I don't know.
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Whatever that means.
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I think it's like an assistant to like someone in the military.
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I don't know if they're on tele guards.
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Oh, so okay.
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I mean, a page boy.
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They have to be some sort of assistant to like something.
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Yeah.
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I was going to say, so I'm like learning how to be so they don't adhere to like religious.
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I just don't think so.
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I don't think so.
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I don't think so.
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Like 30 rock orders.
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I don't think so.
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The page boys in 30 rock.
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It's like they're the, you know, they, they're kind of the go for.
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Yeah.
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Kind of like that.
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So it's like he wanted to be a soldier.
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But he like was just an assistant.
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He was a sister.
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He was a sister to the regional manager.
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Okay.
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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The quote goes on to say, "Íñigo was keen on military exercises and was driven by desire for fame."
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He patterned his life after tales of romantic shibori.
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Oh, it just doesn't sound very like Jesuit.
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It's pretty slight to me.
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It doesn't sound.
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Well, interesting.
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The people that make up religions, you know, who are they really?
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Okay.
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40 years later, and my tangent is over.
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And so is the Jesuits hold on Manresa Hall.
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Oh.
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Okay.
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It was sold and turned into a hotel and renamed Manresa Castle to honor both previous names.
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So they just merged them together.
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They have kept up with renovations of the historic building and thankfully upgraded from three bathrooms.
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Oh, boy.
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To 43.
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Wow.
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Three bathrooms.
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It has three bathrooms and all of those Jesuits men were living.
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Wow.
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That's insane.
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They're probably just peeing everywhere.
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Oh, my God.
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Do you see why I get dude bro vibes from now?
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Yeah.
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I see it now.
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It's kind of a frat bro of a vibe.
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Yikes.
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Okay.
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You guys ready for the hauntings?
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Uh, you know it.
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Are we, oh, we're talking about that this time?
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Yes.
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We are.
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Okay.
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So it Manresa Castle.
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There's reports of doors opening and closing on their own.
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Dogs barking in the background of a podcast.
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Molly, we know.
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There have been reports of doors opening and closing on their own.
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Doors locking and unlocking in vacant rooms.
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And I don't like that.
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Banging and tapping on the walls.
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Okay.
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Well, that could be the wind.
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Yeah.
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It's an old building.
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You don't know it.
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Yeah.
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And unlocking, though, I don't.
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That's interesting because it is a motel too.
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So like, I don't know.
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Did she use an actual key when she let us in?
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Or was it like the cards?
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A key.
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I was at the gym.
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And she was like, I don't know.
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That's a little bit of a spoiler alert.
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Yeah.
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We'll talk about that later.
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People hear whispers or covers being pulled off while they attempt to sleep.
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You might even get a little strokey stroke on your back from an unseen hand.
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That's horrible.
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That's the worst thing I've ever heard.
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They're just, you know, they're just, uh, what's that called?
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Consoling you, making you feel comfortable.
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No, I don't even like when people like, you know, like sometimes older people will like rub your back like, oh, how are you doing today?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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You know, like sometimes older people will like rub your back like, oh, how are you doing today?
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I don't know.
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"Oh, how are you doing today? I hate that one I was pregnant and people wanted to touch my teeth."
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"Oh, that's the worst." Like, "Don't fucking touch me. So if a ghost says it, I would throw up, no."
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Okay, listen. I realize that no, you know what? I'm only cleaning up vomit ones today. Okay. That's,
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I'm not going into the story. Okay. That's my limit. I mean, I'll clean it up,
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but I will throw up if a ghost touches me like,
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thankfully I don't think the ghosts came home with us. I don't think. I don't know.
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Technology problems might say otherwise, but I know. That was a mess. Yeah.
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The old apartment though, like, you would, you would not believe. It was insane. How much
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a weird stuff we had happened there all the time. The smoke detector. How did we know that you were
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going to say that time? I love that. You finish eachothers shadwitches. She’s one of us!
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In the banquet hall, which used to be a chapel, probably from the Jesuits.
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Glass has spontaneously and unexplainably exploded in a server's hand.
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So like, she's like holding it and it just was that like a Hulk smash, Hulk smash.
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Oh, what is that? She's Hulk smashing. I don't know. That gesture could be a lot of things.
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That's pretty weird. Yeah. And sometimes they would set up glasses on the table only to return
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and find them upside down, which is kind of like that's kind of how you should set a table,
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though. Like, you should put the glasses upside down so they don't collect dust and bugs.
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Yeah. Yeah. So maybe the ghost is just trying to help out.
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I mean, I do this. Yes. If you're leaving glasses there overnight, but like, normally at a
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restaurant, if you set a table, isn't someone about to be seated? You don't know what you're talking
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about, Caitlyn. Okay. Oh, I understood this as putting the glasses away for the night. Yeah.
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And this is like setting up a table. Okay. No, I agree. Why would they flip them? Yeah.
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Down. You want them up because they're about to arrive. The guests. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if
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you're a ghost. Like, do you know that there's guests coming? Maybe you don't know. And you're just
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like, why would they leave these glasses? Or first day as a ghost? They just thought it was funny.
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Yeah. That'd be that. It could be a lot of reasons. We don't know.
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It could be a lot of things. How many times do we say we don't know? We don't know. I don't know.
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Yeah. Employees and guests have reported a strong presence or feeling of being watched.
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I don't like it. I could do without it.
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Preferably. There are legends of two specific ghosts. Although these stories have no official
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records to back them up, they were even in the hotel's guest services directory at one point.
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Oh. But I don't think that's the case anymore. I did read that there used to also be a log book
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with all of the hauntings kind of like, uh, mic minimons. Oh, that's cool. But apparently,
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it's not there anymore because people kept asking to change rooms. So I think they
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they got rid of any evidence of like, hauntings in the place. Oh, man. How cool would it have been
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to see that? I guess maybe we should have asked, but I just like assumed that it was gone because of
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what the internet was saying. So I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I think it sounds like they were really trying
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to erase anything. But they can't erase. You know what he means? Zak Bagans. No, they can't. No one can
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bagel bites. Yeah. He lives in infamy. Okay. Charles and Kate might still be there.
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You know, the original. Oh, yeah. Who's Charles and Kate? Yeah. I'm in the room. As in the royal family.
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Yes. Oh my god. I put that together. Yeah. The figure of a woman believed to be Kate
23:01
was caught in a photo in the dining room. Oh. As well as their granddaughter Lotta. She passed at the age of
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13. Oh, people also see and hear a cat on the third floor. Well, it's the cat I was talking about.
23:19
But there's no cat on the property. So it doesn't make any sense that people would see a cat.
23:25
And where it's at, I don't know if there would be like a lot of straight. It's not like in a neighborhood.
23:30
Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. Yeah. Okay. Do you guys remember Mary from the Olympic Peninsula
23:38
Paranormal Society that I talked to on the phone? Yeah. For a prior to our visit. Yeah. Of goods.
23:43
So obviously they investigated Manresa as well. Because they've investigated all over the dang place.
23:51
Oh. All over the Olympic Peninsula. Yeah. I almost said an Olympic Peninsula.
23:58
I mean, you know, potato, potato. Why does that sound easier coming out of my mouth? An Olympic
24:06
peninsula? No, it's what it is. Yeah. What are you going to do? So Mary's team caught an EVP
24:15
of the cat meowing, which is kind of cool. Because like how do you get a random cat meowing oil?
24:22
Yeah. Yeah. Unless like I'm in the group in the background, like thinking I see a cat and I'm like,
24:31
or it's me and I'm saying right now. Right now. And that's what they heard. Yeah. They also caught EVPs
24:40
of a woman speaking German. Mm. Miss Eisenbeis. You know, a Germanish name.
24:49
Sounds very German. Yeah. In room 306, lights flicker and the TV turns on and off. Oh.
24:59
cabinets and drawers have been found left open. And guests have noticed their stuff is just slightly
25:07
moved, even though no one else has been in the room. So obviously they would see if like housekeepers
25:13
had been in there and they'd up. There wasn't any. So like there's no explanation for why things are
25:19
just moved like a little bit, you know, which is a firework. That's what I would do. Yeah. I just
25:24
mess with people a little bit make them question themselves. Yeah. Make them think there's a frog
25:29
around actually gaslight people. Yeah. It sounds very fun. Some people smell strong perfume.
25:38
Described as old. Okay. So like an old lady's perfume is like, oh, okay. I was looking
25:47
old perfume and I was like, how do you know it's gone stale? Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's the bottle turn
25:53
colors. Yeah. And so does the perfume. So not stale perfume, but like old-timey perfume. Like this
25:59
isn't like a Britney Spears perfume. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Probably very flowery. Yeah. Yeah.
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Rosewater. People have caught the impression of someone sitting on the bed. Ew. Or hear a woman
26:15
singing in the bathroom. More ew. So she's just singing in the shower or she's sitting next to you on
26:22
your bed. Uh no. Some have even seen the apparition of a woman with long dark hair, wearing a white
26:31
gown. Oh. Because of course she is. We needed a lady in white. A lady in white. Yeah. Oh boy. Every
26:39
ghost story has a lady in white. Like show me when the person. So it's not a castle. It's not a
26:43
haunted castle. If we don't have a lady in white. That's true. I think that's true. By law. Yeah.
26:49
It's been deemed by I don't know. It's not Vegas. Mr. Bringle by itself. I was gonna say lawyer.
26:55
But ghost hunter. But they do see her standing by the window. I say the window in 306 by A window.
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Okay. I'll say. Okay. We aren't sure which window. It was probably the one. Like if you walk
27:15
into the room, it was to the right. Cause that MF reader was going to be going off the floor on
27:23
that window. Yeah. We'll talk about it. Okay. Well. Oh boy. Her story is quite a sad one. And one,
27:31
maybe we've heard before. And I say maybe. And I mean definitely. Yeah.
27:37
She was waiting for her fiance to return from war. But he sadly never made it home to her.
27:43
Oh no. The woman was so distraught after hearing of his passing. But she decided to join him.
27:52
And she jumped to her death. No. From a window in room 306. Oh no. Would that fall kill you?
28:01
That's kind of why I feel like she would have just broken her legs. It depends on how you land.
28:09
That's true. That's true. And without modern medicine. Like yeah. Yeah. You're right.
28:15
Recovery. I hope she I whatever happened. I hope no one suffered. I hope she just like passed away
28:23
on her own. And then people just made this story up. I hope so. Yeah. I hope it's totally fake.
28:30
Yeah. I hope no one died anywhere ever. Yeah. Everyone's still alive. You guys. Yeah.
28:36
Well, let's move on to room 302. Footsteps could be heard in the empty attic above.
28:44
Like how you're looking up, Caitlyn. Mary's team actually caught this on recording.
28:53
Oh yeah. So they caught an EVP of footsteps up above them.
28:58
I love room 302. And no one was out there. Wow. I bet you there was someone up there. They just weren't supposed to be there.
29:05
They just weren't left in us. Yeah. They weren't supposed to be there. That's just oh that's all.
29:10
Kind of like we weren't supposed to be there. We were meant to be there. Yeah. We were.
29:15
We totally were. It felt so right. Oh my god.
29:18
One guest heard a loud thud each night around the witching hour 3 a.m.
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The legend is that a monk slash priest died by suicide in the turret directly above this room.
29:34
Yeah. Like I said, there's no record of this. And I did talk to Mary from the Olympic Peninsula
29:44
Paranormal Society who said that it had been disproven. I don't know why people say it would be a
29:52
monk. I feel like if anything, it was probably one of the Jesuits. If it happened. Yeah. Yeah.
29:58
And one article said that even if it did happen, they're most likely wouldn't be a record of it or it
30:04
would be covered up in some way because who who wants to say that one of their Jesuits told themselves
30:10
that he's gonna hide it. Yeah. I was a bit under the rug. And the cat like at the school like it was a
30:15
school. Yeah. So that would just look very bad for everyone. Never here. And we don't know where he went.
30:22
Yeah. After he was not here. I mean, it was and it's so easy to us or it was so easy to just like
30:28
Yeah. So things that are the rug back then. Yeah. Yeah. No records of anything. Yeah. Look.
30:32
Oh, no. We lost those papers. I don't know. So weird. I feel like that could be part of like white
30:39
a lot of older spirits hang around because we don't know exactly what happened to them. Like why don't we
30:44
see ghosts dressed in like modern day style. But I think maybe it's because maybe we know what happened
30:51
of them and also we do. Yeah. Do we? I don't know. I've never seen it. No, not me. But their stories
30:59
is like, I don't know, ghosts in the road and like. Yeah. We've also been wearing a final shirt in jeans.
31:05
That's true. That's not always a lady in white. Yeah. But there are more lady in white. Yeah. There's
31:11
a lot more like old timey ghosty stories than. But I think it's because the records weren't kept. So
31:18
they like people don't know what happened to them and there's a lot of energy in the air. Yeah.
31:24
Yeah. I think that's why green. Yeah. The lens is so high. Unfinished. Yeah. Yeah. That reminds me of
31:32
Casper. Yeah. Did you guys? Did you guys watch Casper? No, it's been years. I don't remember it.
31:38
My god. I love that movie. I was so in love with guys. I really like Scott. Yeah. He was so cute.
31:48
I'm blushing. I don't see it. I'm sorry. When he turns into the human boy. Oh, because I don't remember.
31:54
That's why I don't see it. At the end, spoiler alert in Casper. Spoiler alert.
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F***ing Casper. He gets like a couple hours like Cinderella and he gets to be in his human form and he
32:08
gets to dance with Christina Ricci. And it's just amazing. Okay. That's adorable. But I have no idea
32:15
what that kid looks like. Yeah. I mean, he's cute and you're a kid as well. Okay. But like
32:20
obviously I can't say I'm crushing on him now because I'm 34 years old. Oh my god. And he is forever
32:28
a queen. Oh, yeah. He was cute. Yeah. He's cute. He's cute. That was the attention. He's like not bad.
32:38
I don't mean he's all right. He's like not bad. I haven't seen him as an adult. Actually, I,
32:47
yeah, let me see. You go and won't go go but I don't think he's your type. Does he have a beard?
32:53
He does not. Does he look like a lumberjack? Oh my god. What did you say? It was what's his name?
32:59
Devon Sawa? I don't know how to say his last name. What's he in? Final destination?
33:07
He is? He's like the main guy in Final destination. Oh my god. I haven't seen that in so long.
33:12
Let me see. Do you have it? Oh, that guy. Okay. I changed my mind. I love him. Yeah. Yeah.
33:22
Okay. So what was that? You're the proud bad guy. Yeah. Casper is like, oh, it's a ghost.
33:33
In the attic, Mary's team caught an EVP of a male voice saying, I'm not here.
33:39
Which is like, ew. Are you? Are you talking? You're here right now. You're literally talking to me.
33:46
Is he saying I'm not here because I'm a ghost? Like I'm here, but I'm not. Ew. Ew. I'm not a fan of that.
33:53
No. To be honest, I don't, I don't care for it at all. Well, if you don't care for that,
34:00
you're not going to care for this very much. So Mary actually stayed the night and saw the
34:05
apparition of a little boy in period appropriate clothing. Oh, wow. Sleeping at the end of her bed.
34:13
Oh my god. No. No. Yeah. So like, wow. No. It's really interesting because it's like a little kid
34:21
like curled up on the end of your bed, like kind of like a dog would be. Yeah. That's um.
34:27
Or if you're gin, um, maybe your boyfriend. Because at Michael Scott, at least it didn't like
34:36
crawl in the covers next door though. Maybe it was trying to be respectful, but also like wanted to be
34:41
fun. That sounds horrifying. Oh my god. I don't care. I can't. I can't. No. No. I wouldn't buy a little
34:49
kid to cuddle with me. Take it back. This is why you slept on the couch. It's a baby. It just needs love.
35:01
No. Oh my god. Well, you guys. You're a mother. I don't care. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
35:08
Ghost baby. I'm not mothering ghost children. Fuck them. Fuck them kids. I got you. I got you guys.
35:16
Okay. You know, oh good. I am with human kids. Do you think I would be good with ghost kids? Yeah.
35:21
I think so. Yeah. Okay. That makes me feel good. Thank you guys. You know what I feel like that
35:25
explains a lot because I feel like just all past, present and future versions of me reject
35:33
children's better life. Well, so I'm forever sleeping in a bed alone because I invite ghosts
35:39
into my bed. Yeah. I mean, you won't be alone because you'll have all of those ghost children.
35:44
True. Of course, I have to talk about just a couple little things from ghost adventures.
35:51
Okay. Oh boy. They're busy in 2015. Season 14 episode three.
35:58
My god, that was almost 10 years ago. It was a long time ago. Damn. Yeah. I really want to take a
36:03
fucking shit. Wow. Wow. They talked to a housekeeper that was physically attacked in a dungeon
36:11
laundry room. No way. The door literally says dungeon. It's out. Yeah. Yeah. So I naturally want to go in
36:22
and we did. Honestly, I feel like of all of the places that we went there that really didn't feel.
36:29
It didn't feel that bad. The dungeon was fine to me. The attic. No. There was something
36:35
where that did happen in the dungeon though. I don't know if you guys remember, but we'll talk about
36:39
it. The light. Yeah. Don't tell me. I didn't remember. Something was light. We'll talk about it.
36:47
So the housekeeper got a child-sized handprint bruise on her leg and didn't feel it happen at the time.
36:55
So she told the ghost it was not okay to leave bruises, which is fair. Yeah. And then felt a punch
37:02
in the face. What the? I'm laughing because it's like it's like it's kind of a scared reaction.
37:08
Oh my god. That's horrifying. So we always tell people like just tell the ghost that it's not okay to do
37:14
this. It's like your boundaries, but then to get punched in the face. That's scary. We do also say
37:21
like try to be, you know, respectful. Yeah. So maybe maybe it wasn't approached in a respectful way.
37:30
I don't know. That ghost was just a dick. Really? Let's be honest. Probably. But it was a kid. I don't like
37:36
to think it was the same kid pulled up and what if it might not have been the kid that punched her?
37:41
That's true. They say that like ghost kids aren't or some people say ghost kids are not even like
37:47
like kids can be ghosts and like anything pretending to be a ghost that's kid is actually like demonic.
37:53
Oh, I don't personally believe it myself. I do think there are children spirits that are like normal
37:58
just lost, you know, little ghosts. I'd rather think that it was a demon than a kid. Right. But that
38:03
sounds like a very demonic thing to do. Like I don't go. Yeah. Hunter the face man. I know.
38:10
This time she did feel it obviously because she didn't feel the bruise but she did feel the punch
38:15
to the face. And since that they did not like her telling them off, which oh yeah, I can see that
38:23
fair. But always tell the ghost to, you know, try to set your boundaries. I mean, I don't know what
38:30
you could do to prevent a punch in the face. I mean, she tried. Yeah. I would still risk it. I would
38:38
set my boundaries anyway and yeah, risk the punch to the face because I don't think that that this
38:43
doesn't happen a lot. This is like intense. Yeah. I mean, I hope not. Yeah. Okay. And then fucking
38:51
Zak Bagans. Uh huh. Uh huh. Bagel Bites. Supreme. What did he do after hearing this piece of
38:59
evidence? Oh boy. He probably said, fuck you ghost. Well, he asks this poor housekeeper to punch him
39:08
in the face as hard as she got punched in the face. Oh, that makes so much sense. Okay. Wow.
39:16
And why? Wow. Yeah. He wanted to like feel how hard it was. I guess that's how you
39:21
was in today. Okay. I would have just taken her word for it. Right. Like what the fuck's that? Come on.
39:26
And she was like, no, I can't punch that hard. So obviously it was a pretty hard punch.
39:33
Which I don't know if Zak Bagans told me to punch him in the face. I might, I think I would do it.
39:39
I might do it. No questions. Yeah. No hesitation. Just sure. Yeah. Zach.
39:45
Yeah. Your move. Waiting on you, sir. Uh huh. Another interesting tidbit was Charles,
39:54
Eisenbeis and his first wife, Elizabeth, are buried in an underground vault in Laurel Grove,
40:00
Cemetery. The door was later sealed. And Elizabeth was in a glass top coffin, which is very snow white.
40:13
A stone ended up breaking off of the ceiling and falling onto her coffin and breaking the glass open.
40:20
Nope. Wow. Nope. And when they went into repair, they also found that it had smashed a child's coffin
40:29
also inside the vault. I'm sorry. I don't think you mentioned a child. I just did just now. I,
40:36
yep. But what child? Yes. I have. Follow up questions. Any remaining family these days did not know
40:46
of Charles and Elizabeth, his first wife ever having a child. And Zak theorizes that the spirit
40:54
of the child might be angry that it has been forgotten. That makes sense. Yeah. I mean, that tracks.
41:02
But of course, he also thinks that a demon might be possessing the child. So, you know,
41:07
that makes sense. Yeah. Either one, uh, or a child or a demon, you know, pick, pick, take your pick.
41:15
Yeah. Yeah. Pick your pick. That's what I was just. And then while I was talking to Mary,
41:20
she said that they were taking pictures at the cemetery in front of the Eisenbeis monument.
41:26
And they caught an EVP at the same time these pictures were being taken. Oh. And it's a very
41:32
like clear EVP. And it says, how dare you take that? That's creepy. Are you serious? Wow. Yeah.
41:43
I'll link it for everyone so they can go to their website. They have all their EVPs that you can play.
41:49
That's cool. And Mary is actually going to come back on and talk to us soon. So,
41:54
I think that will be pretty cool. So excited. Uh, tell her to take three of us on a Pernodal investigation.
42:01
I know I did ask her. I was like, can you tag along? Sometimes she also set us up with,
42:06
she gave me the name of, uh, like a Portland, like a local Portland paranormal team.
42:12
But I'm in a contact as well. So maybe we'll just like, we'll just tag along to everyone's teams.
42:19
Sweet. So now we're going to talk about our little trip to Manresa Castle, which was completely
42:28
unplanned. And we had no idea what was going to happen. So we show up to this beautiful castle.
42:36
And before we go inside, I think we're like, let's just like see what we can get outside just in
42:43
case they like run us off the property. Yeah. Yeah. So we pull out Cristina's EMF reader.
42:49
And then we didn't get the spirit box in time, which we talked about. Yeah. So we just downloaded
42:57
some apps on our phone and the one yeah, you got one that was calling you a square. I don't know what
43:02
you thought was. Yeah. We got the Sono X 10 spirit box. Yeah. Well, so we're Apple users and Cristina
43:15
isn't. So we kind of had to get different apps. Yeah. And we got very different responses. Yeah.
43:24
So let's go over. So we the EMF reader was going off outside right by the fountain. Yeah. Was it going
43:30
all the way to the top or just like halfway all the way all the way. Yeah. And then so Caitlyn,
43:36
you tell us what you were hearing because you put your earbuds in was playing the spirit box app.
43:42
And yeah, you tell us what you heard. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's all in response to specific questions.
43:53
So one of the things that I was asking, which probably seems weird now, but because it wasn't like we
44:01
reached out to them and had a specific invitation to like come and do a tour or anything. We freeb all
44:08
that I exactly I kept asking I was like, where should we go? Like where do we go next from here?
44:17
And it told me to go to hell. Didn't say like go to hell. Was it like no? It just said it like said
44:27
hell. Oh, okay. Wow. It just said hell. Yeah. And if anyone real quick, if anyone doesn't know what a
44:35
spirit box is because we don't know like who's listening if they're experts in the paranormal
44:40
investigations like we are. Yeah. It scans through radio frequencies. So like it goes like you
44:46
theoretically can't hear a full word because it's scanning so fast. So when you do hear a word,
44:52
it's thought that that's like the ghost energy manipulating and putting their own words in there
44:59
and let you hear it. So it also told me to go upstairs. Oh wow. Interesting. Wow. That is interesting.
45:11
And I was like, are you sure? Because I feel like the lobby looks like it can be nice. And this is when
45:17
we were in the courtyard by the water fountain, which is underneath the attic turret. It is. Yeah. Yeah.
45:25
And like I didn't know anything about this place. I obviously very intentionally I don't look into
45:34
the places that I know you're going to talk about. She has no interest. No. No. Not at all. I'm like,
45:42
I want to know less than I did when I nope. Oh, just as little as possible. Didn't you say when you
45:50
first turned it on it said your name? It did. It said my name a couple of times. The app you had on your
45:57
phone that would give you words said water first. Water. Yeah. So which is interesting. Yeah.
46:03
I think I was a little further away when it said water. So I was like, I guess I walked towards the fountain.
46:24
And then at the fountain, it said, Terrorist. And I was like, all right, that's random. Yeah. Yeah. And then it said,
46:30
what was the other thing? Square. Square. Square. Yeah. Yeah. It was interesting because it called,
46:37
it said not, I don't want to say it's like calling you a terrorist, but it said to me about terrorist.
46:42
And I think it was actually calling me a terrorist. Why? Why would it do that? We're like, why would you
46:47
say terrorist? And then it said square. So it's like, yeah, yeah. Which is it like telling us to shut up,
46:54
but like I didn't know if it was calling us squares or if it was like square up bitches.
46:59
What other two? Did we shut it off after that? I turned it off for a little bit and then I switched
47:07
apps to another one that was just making like, yeah, sounds. So then we went inside to, you know,
47:15
snoop around. And then they have like, you can go in the lobby in the library, little section. Yeah.
47:21
But then pass that everything the signs say only for guests. So we're like, oh, like we shouldn't
47:27
go down the hall and up the stairs and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, well, the girl at the front
47:32
desk has pink hair. So she's probably super cool. She's probably super cool. It's true. So she was. Yeah.
47:40
She really high. So I went to Nova at the front desk and I was like, hey, is there anywhere else we
47:47
can look around in the hotel? And she was like, yeah, we can go wherever we can go the attic and
47:55
I was like, are you sure? Yes. So then we're like, can we see the two haunted rooms? So yeah,
48:03
she took us to the attic. She went everywhere to the attic into the turrets room. Oh my god,
48:13
it was so cool. I think it was me and Cristina were freaking out like excited and Caitlin was freaking
48:19
out. Like, oh god, why am I here? Yeah. It's a beautiful building. I think there was a lot that I was
48:26
excited to see. And you guys were excited. So I feel like a little bit, you know, it's kind of like a
48:33
golden retriever energy. I'm just so happy to be here, you know, to be involved. Yeah. Yeah.
48:40
Even though I'm very uncomfortable because there was a lot of uncomfortable. Yeah. It was interesting.
48:47
So we go up into the attic and I immediately am like looking at the turrets space and I'm like,
48:53
why is there a chair over there? It was so weird. And she was like, I don't know, that makes me kind
48:59
of uncomfortable because that's where like the legends of where the monk hung him. Oh, yeah.
49:06
It's like, why would there be a chair over there? So, you know, me and Cristina just like
49:10
immediately walk over there. Yeah. It's where you want to hang out. Yeah. I did. It was really,
49:16
it was cool in there. We were like talking about we're standing where that beggin stud. We took
49:23
pictures like Zak Bagan's will see. Yeah. And funny because that's like the one spot that I didn't
49:29
go to. Yeah. Yeah. Over there at all. Yeah. I was like, no thanks. And it had, I don't know what the
49:35
little landing was. It had like a little stairs up to a landing that looked out the window. And I
49:40
climbed up there and I was like, oh, those boards look a little shady. So I like tested one with my
49:45
foot and it like went down. So I was like, well, I guess I can't stand up here, but I can
49:50
see. No thing. Still see out the window and take a crazy picture. But then when we were,
49:57
so we're done in the turret area and we were walking back to Nova and Caitlyn who were in another
50:03
part of the attic, like the middle part. And I like, I'm walking just fine. And then I take a step
50:09
in its literally like water bed. Like I, it was the most intense like vertigo I've ever had. And
50:16
I get it pretty easy. Like if I'm on a dock or like a boat, I get like, I know I'm moving. But this was
50:23
like, I almost thought like, am I falling through the floor right now? Like, yeah. It was so intense.
50:29
I thought that I might be like sinking into the floor. It was weird. And when you felt that, I felt
50:34
like this weird pressure in my chest. Oh, it was like, it felt heavy in the room. And I was like,
50:40
what the fuck? I don't feel these things. Interesting. Yeah. It was weird. And it was weird.
50:45
That didn't happen over where that chair was. No. It was like over where you were standing. I think
50:51
we walked past that painting with the girl painting. And the painting was the first thing that I
50:57
kind of glomed onto that was like, wow, that's so creepy. It's like her eyes. Oh, yeah. It was very
51:05
creepy painting. I wouldn't have to lotta their grandchild or I don't know who the painting was.
51:12
Yeah. It's hard to say. That's interesting. Did anything else creepy happen you up there in the
51:18
attic? No, just that weird feeling that I did not feel anywhere else in when we were at
51:24
Munresa except up there. I didn't either. I didn't feel like the wobbly. And Nova did say like,
51:30
that does happen to her sometimes too, because we think the floor might like, you know, it's just not as
51:35
sturdy. Yeah. But it was weird that it only happened to me in that one spot. And it was only like
51:41
two steps and then it was gone. So very weird. And it makes me question like other experiences that
51:48
I've had actually because I've toured other old buildings and specifically addicts and felt like
51:57
the whole thing was like walking through molasses. And some of that I know just intellectually is like
52:08
from a construction standpoint like, well, it's old. And that's that's the building material and
52:15
the different layers. And then sometimes it's perhaps not. Yeah. I do remember though,
52:25
wasn't the EMF reader going like totally all the way to the red? The whole the whole time we were
52:31
upstairs that EMF reader was going wild. It did not go down below red. And yeah, the lights were just
52:40
flak green. And yeah, it was weird because like, I mean, we were walking around in the hallway. It was
52:46
fine. We went in the little awesome elevator. It was fine. The elevator was super cute. The coolest
52:54
elevator ever. And I don't like elevators. Yeah. Like historically someone who just does not get on
53:00
board with elevators. I'm not a fan either. Yeah. But we I wasn't expecting it to be like pink and
53:06
cute. It was adorable. So cute. Oh my god. I was like, can I do my engagement photo shoot here?
53:12
Yeah, let's go back and down. Well, then we went into the two haunted rooms 302 and 306.
53:24
I can't remember. Is there a two the one under the turret? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we went. Yeah.
53:30
And it is. Yeah. We went in that one first, right? And yeah. Is that the one that was a mess? Yeah.
53:38
Okay. Yeah. So they had checked out. So you know, Nova would make sure no one was occupying these rooms.
53:44
And they were they had their like honey moon or some sort of like date night shenanigans going on in
53:50
there. I mean, that was a whole last party. There was flowers everywhere. Those petals. Yeah. Yeah.
53:57
It was sweet. I was like, well, at least someone had like a really good time in here last night.
54:01
Really? There was like sort of a romantic, but also a party vibe. Yeah. But we were just like,
54:07
don't touch anything. Yeah. Yeah. So we didn't recording anything in there. I don't remember the MF
54:12
really going off in that room. Honestly, I think I think just where we stood underneath were
54:19
supposedly the pre-slaunch month like condoms. Yeah. And we stood there. I think it might have like
54:26
turned on a little bit, but definitely not in the same levels as the attic. That was wild. Yeah.
54:32
And then we went into the other room, three, oh six, which is where the woman jumped out the window
54:40
allegedly. Allegedly. And that was interesting. Yeah. So I was walking around with it on like
54:48
pointed out places. And then I was like, hey, wait, what window is the one where she supposedly fell
54:53
off? But before that, I was checking both windows anyway with the MF reader. And then
54:58
Novo was like, oh, I think it was this one. So I went to stand at that window. And yeah, the MF was like
55:04
bright lights. The other one, no lights. Like nowhere else in that room. Both the window. So that was
55:10
weird. Yeah. And we do a video of it sitting on the windowsill, right? We do. It's on, I want to say, both of our
55:17
social medias. So then, you know, we go back downstairs in Novo's like going back into her
55:24
front desk area. And I was like, well, but what about can we go to the dungeon?
55:30
And she very slowly put up with me asking to go to the dungeon for the second time. After telling me
55:39
that there was nothing special down there. But I was like, I just want to walk for Zak.
55:42
I just want to go and get punched in the face. Yeah. Okay. Is that what happened? Yeah.
55:55
Okay. Oh, interesting. Okay. I'm going to have to watch this episode. I'm sure I've seen it
56:02
at some point. It's a pretty good one. I got to watch it. I know I haven't seen it. And I definitely
56:07
don't talk about really much that happened. There was like a chair that they caught that fell over in
56:14
the dining room, which was like, oh, I think that was like their biggest piece of evidence. It was
56:18
like a chair falling over by itself. But yeah, a lot happens in that episode. So definitely go watch it.
56:25
Interesting. But so we did go down to the dungeon. And we were like, it's, we didn't really feel
56:31
anything down there. It was just cool to be down there, except for Nova walked passed this one room.
56:39
And she's like, wait, why is the light on? Like this? It turned on. It turned on as she walked past it.
56:45
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She walked in. It was like, wait, who turned that on? And we were like, where are we
56:50
here? I was like, that came on. Yeah. It turned on after you walked past it. And they're like old
56:56
basement lights. They're not like motion sensor. And you know, we went in there like nothing motioned on.
57:03
So that was pretty interesting. Yeah. I think I caught the end of that on video. Like when she said,
57:10
why did this light turn on? I think I like turned on my camera really quick. But I like catch anything.
57:15
But yeah, so that was pretty cool. Well, I was secret. So something happened to me after we got home.
57:23
I pretty sure it was Monday. Like stay after. What? But we don't even know about. Yeah. I mean, we must not,
57:31
because this doesn't sound familiar at all. Which I said was a secret. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys,
57:37
you know how I was like, oh, I can't get possessed because I have an anti-position. Oh my god.
57:43
I was like, that's so fucking cocky. You just say that. We heard it. It might work.
57:50
So I have the supernatural anti-possession tattoo, which is like, it's not, it's from a show. Okay. But like,
57:57
I put all of my thoughts and powers into it while I was getting it like anti-possession. So I think
58:04
that it works. How's that working out for you? I think it works. And let me tell you why.
58:09
Oh my god. Monday night. I like got this burning in my ribs. And I was like, oh, what is that? It was
58:17
getting real itchy. That's where my tattoo is right here. Oh, it was getting real itchy. Oh my god.
58:23
And this, it's a, like what I got it like a, like a couple months ago, like four months ago, about four
58:31
months ago. So it's healed. I shouldn't feel weird like that anymore. Yeah. And sometimes, you know, if it
58:37
gets a little dry, it gets itchy. So I'm like putting lotion on it. It starts like, like, I want to
58:44
scratch my fucking skin off. It starts itching so bad. It was bright red because, well, I was like
58:50
scratching at it. So it was all red. Nowhere else on my body was I getting this feeling and I was like,
58:57
is it, is it working? Like, is this keeping something at like somebody is trying to like get at me?
59:04
And like, it felt like it wanted me to scratch all of my tattoo. Like, that sounds crazy.
59:11
Horrifying. That sounds horrifying. Yeah. So lasted like all night. And then, you know, I
59:16
haven't had that sense, which I feel like if it was my skin like reacting to like the ink or
59:22
something, I don't know, it would like keep happening. Yes. When you have other issues, it's not like
59:27
you're like allergic tattoos. Yeah. I have other tattoos and they get, you know, they get itchy when,
59:33
like, I said, when they get dry, but never like that intense, like it will go away when I put
59:37
lotion on it. And I was like putting lotion on this bitch all night. And it still knows it was just
59:43
like burnt. It was the weirdest thing. Yeah. So I was like, I don't know. Something came home with me
59:47
and was like trying to get inside of me. Yeah. Because you got cocky. It was like, oh, yeah.
59:53
Yeah. But then you were right. Right? I mean, I think it works. It works. Or listen,
1:00:01
what is your name even Cassie? I have questions. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. I have security
1:00:11
questions for you. Well, now like, okay, so it's not possessing me, but like, is it around me
1:00:18
fucking with our technology? Because we've, we had some serious issues. And I'm like, it's me,
1:00:26
it's my fault. It's me and the problem. Hi. Yeah. Hello. So we might have to exercise.
1:00:34
Greetings and salutations. I am the problem. I need to go take a Pilates class and get
1:00:41
exercised and go steam it off of me. Exercise. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Well, so you have to go
1:00:52
Cristina on a date. I do. I do. Okay. So I won't be with us for tarot because we had so many
1:00:59
technological difficulties in the beginning. I can't wait to hear the tarot part. Yeah.
1:01:04
It's been so fun. Oh, wait. We forgot something. We forgot something. We went to the cemetery.
1:01:09
We went to the cemetery. Oh, my god. We had to talk about the cemetery. Oh, my god. How do we
1:01:13
even forget? How do we forget that? I don't know. How did I remember that? Yeah. Okay.
1:01:18
Probably where I felt the most uncomfortable. You stayed in the car. I did. Yeah. I was very
1:01:24
hard pressed to leave my vehicle. And we drove around looking for the Eisenhower monument. And we
1:01:30
like went the wrong way at first. We literally, the opposite way. Yeah. The opposite way. So we went
1:01:37
around the entire cemetery before we found it in the entrance. Sure did. Sure did. If we'd taken a
1:01:45
left instead of a right. But I mean, I'm okay with it because I wanted to see the interior. It was so
1:01:50
cool. It looks so cool. There are so many. And it looks so cool in the video that I ended up
1:01:56
it was posted on the scary FM social media and then I was tagging it. Yeah. And just the deer.
1:02:00
It looked cool. So I'm like, I'm actually glad that we took the scenic route inside the cemetery.
1:02:05
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was nice. It was a really beautiful cemetery. It was. I feel very uncomfortable
1:02:14
in the cemetery. I don't, I don't like walking in the grass. I always apologize, like profusely.
1:02:23
And I'm like, I'm just here admiring. It's gorgeous here. It's peaceful. I'm sorry. I'm like,
1:02:29
tipped over you real quick. I'm so sorry. There's nowhere in the cemetery. Like if you're on the grass,
1:02:35
I don't feel comfortable at all. Yeah. Like anywhere on the grass, I don't feel comfortable. And
1:02:41
I understand that. It's like organic. Like interesting. You're connecting with the ground and the
1:02:47
ground is connecting with the skeleton. Like you're, you're kind of like so. Yeah.
1:02:51
Maybe that sounds completely bonkers, but like I kind of think so. That's how I was when
1:02:58
before I embraced my creepiness, I would not, I was not comfortable in cemeteries. I remember,
1:03:06
I was just thinking about this the other day. It's hard to imagine. I remember going to funeral and
1:03:11
I was just like so uncomfortable. But then I started thinking about this. And I was like, I remember
1:03:16
there being like a lot of people around. And I don't think that there was. There was.
1:03:24
Right. Yeah. You would see and tell people that's really interesting. That's where my memory,
1:03:32
the cemetery was just like there was people, there was full of people. And I'm like, this funeral,
1:03:38
I'm thinking of I don't think there was. I don't mean people there. Yeah. And it was
1:03:43
interesting when I was thinking about this the other day. But yeah. Wow. No, I've embraced it. And I
1:03:49
feel okay. And I want to see the people again. I can I go back and like I want to get my talents back.
1:03:55
I'd rather not. I feel fine as cemeteries because like I'm sure I'm not going to see anything. And
1:04:00
I have every time it never fails. I don't see a thing. So damn, I'm just waiting. We did hear something.
1:04:08
Have something interesting happen. Oh yeah. Yeah. Back to that. Yeah. Yeah. So naturally, I'm like,
1:04:14
there's stairs going down into their vault. But it is like walled off. So you can't go inside.
1:04:21
But the so the stairs lead down to a little wall. Yeah. And I was like, let's go and like hang out
1:04:26
in there. And I don't remember if we had the spirit box app up while we were like in on the stairs
1:04:33
or just like right in front of the monument. You had it open in front as we were walking down.
1:04:40
And then when we were at the wall, it was open. And then I had the MF either at the same time. So yeah,
1:04:45
it was open. Like not just down there. So like we didn't hear anything up there before we walked
1:04:51
down the little stairs of the eyes and biases like tombstone. Yeah. But then when we got walked
1:04:58
in the stairs and stood there and we were like standing there for a little bit asking to you.
1:05:01
We went to your castle.
1:05:08
You have to watch that. It was beautiful. Look at this.
1:05:14
We heard there's a child in here that nobody knows about.
1:05:27
Rosemary. Rosemary is that? That's November. Yeah.
1:05:35
Sensitive. Is the little girl's name Rosemary? I was a fan of it. It was a little bit cooler.
1:05:46
I just heard Rosemary again. Can I make a hand? Yeah. Yeah.
1:05:55
I need to smell it.
1:05:56
Well, you're in a beautiful place to be laid to rest.
1:06:03
And I think I was like I heard there was a child inside and then what did the spirit box say to us?
1:06:16
It was a name, right? Oh, a name was that? Rosemary. Rosemary. Rosemary. Very clearly.
1:06:24
I didn't even hear it and I still remember it. It's like in my ear. Yeah. Somehow I forgot.
1:06:29
Because it's like three syllables. Three syllables on a spearbox thing is like kind of crazy.
1:06:35
Rosemary. Yeah. Do you still have the little audio for me? I do. I have the screen recorded.
1:06:40
Okay. Cool. You should totally insert it. I should. I will. I'll find it. It was like
1:06:44
a little bit like Rosemary. Wait. Did they just say Rosemary? Rosemary. And it was like a girl's voice too.
1:06:50
It was. It was. Yeah. It was interesting. It was very good. You guys are down there walking
1:06:56
down the steps to the wall of the mazlem. Meanwhile, I'm like I don't want to crack my windows open
1:07:03
to the fire. Yeah. Yeah. And then we had to go and get coins because I was like oh we have to leave
1:07:09
like gift because it's customary. It's like a respectful. Yeah. Yeah. To leave. I don't know
1:07:19
that was the thing. Yeah. But then there was more coins there and I was like oh. I think we were
1:07:23
respectful and we said thank you for you know maybe speaking with us if you were. I thought it was
1:07:31
cool. I really liked it. Yeah. It was so glad that I had changed. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
1:07:36
Yeah. Because I didn't have mine because I had just cleaned out my purse. And I don't own any
1:07:42
single piece of like coins or chains like change like nothing. Cash? No. I know. And usually
1:07:48
you have like at least a couple bucks or like quarters or something and I never do and I did.
1:07:55
I keep it in my purse in case I go to a cemetery. Oh.
1:07:59
Makes sense. Is that why? Who doesn't? I mean I feel like that's the reason you need to have change.
1:08:04
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Just you know for Hades.
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1:09:12
So you've fondled the deck? Sure, deyed. Well I interestingly, I guess I put the card away but I can
1:09:22
tell the story. So Cristina has left and I put the deck on her chair to soak up her butt energy
1:09:31
from the episode. But I like it. So I was like deck, soak up Cristina's butt energy and then I pick up
1:09:41
the deck and on the bottom is the hanged man. Yeah, which I thought was pretty interesting.
1:09:49
Kind of weird. Yeah, so do with that what you will. I'm interested to see what we're going to draw here.
1:10:01
Oh, bye. I feel like I'm being really quiet. I really, I don't know. I need to do one more. Okay.
1:10:16
I don't know why I got like really nervous all of a sudden. Is that weird? No, I feel like that makes sense.
1:10:26
There's like anxious energy in here right now. Where's that coming from? I feel it too.
1:10:30
I mean that might just be me. Maybe it's my shoulders are like a thing. Yeah.
1:10:37
The three C's. We got the three of cups. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Oh, we turned to page 11
1:10:53
and 11 right off the bat. Okay. It's like a really the positive like party card. It is. Yeah. We just
1:11:03
had so much like positive like cheesy energy. Like we can't be to get back together and go something
1:11:09
like right before she laughs. I feel like yeah, it's like picking all of that up. Yeah, I think that
1:11:14
that kind of makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Keywords are celebration, fulfillment, friendship, community,
1:11:24
happiness and fun. Yeah. The three of cups in many decks depicts three young women holding
1:11:35
chalices a lot as if toasting each other. Cristina, your butt energy is with us. And we're
1:11:45
officially too far away from each other to toast. In some packs, the women are dancing and clearly
1:11:55
having fun or ghost something. Yeah. Maybe that. A positive card. It suggests you have something
1:12:03
to celebrate perhaps a relationship or the success of a project. A podcast. Maybe.
1:12:11
And we drew this upright, correct? Yeah. That's so funny. This is also the card that I still have with the
1:12:19
a little tabby. Yeah. I know right now we have to draw another card. But I'm gonna wait until this
1:12:27
like celebratory energy. Okay. Let's blow it through. The upright three says you're enjoying a good time
1:12:36
with people you care about and admire. You could think of this as the cheers card. Cheers. Cheers.
1:12:44
It can also indicate expressing love, inspiration and creativity with a community of like-minded people.
1:12:55
The common bond between you fills your cups and brings blessings to all. I hope so.
1:13:04
Okay. In a reading about money, the three says you can profit from a collective undertaking.
1:13:13
It shows you reaping rewards from an investment made with other people. Hell yeah. Hell to the
1:13:21
you. Quite we have quite the investment already. We're also just talking about that. Sure do.
1:13:27
Oh, boy. If the reading is about your job, the upright three assures good fortune from a group effort.
1:13:36
Oh yeah. You feel joyful and fulfilled with the results. It's time to celebrate your success.
1:13:47
With another ghost hunting trip. I think so. I think all signs point to that.
1:13:53
That's probably got to have to be after your wedding. Oh my god. You just said that in a reading about
1:14:01
love, this card can represent a marriage. That's happening. It shows you celebrating your love and
1:14:09
extending affection beyond your primary partnership to include friends, community and kindreds
1:14:16
spirits. So literally a fucking wedding. It's it's it's a spirit still. Yeah sure. Sure did. Okay.
1:14:24
Okay. The three graces Greek mythology speaks of three goddesses of joy, charm and beauty known as
1:14:38
the graces. The three of cups reminds us of the famous painting Primavera. Oh yeah. By the Renaissance
1:14:49
painter and Italian, the angel, Sandra, but the Shelley. We got this one at the Lithia Park
1:14:59
episode. There was like the Blue Lady in the painting. Yeah. The look of after. Yeah.
1:15:05
Which shows these three beautiful young deities dancing together. It's definitely us. It's totally us.
1:15:13
Oh, this is interesting. Are you done? Yeah.
1:15:17
It's talking about the butterflies. So there's butterflies in the card. Okay. On some flowers.
1:15:25
And it says they drift on the wind, fluttering on stained glass wings. Oh, there was definitely like
1:15:34
stained glass windows of the castle. That's kind of freaky. Yeah. The fact that people
1:15:41
fell out of windows. That's true. That's true. That is true. Yeah. I just thought it was so interesting
1:15:49
because you were like pointing out the stained glass windows. You know, they're so pretty. Yeah,
1:15:53
they're so pretty. I'll read this because it's short. Okay. The sweet aroma of blossoming
1:16:00
lupines draws thousands of butterflies together. Orgas. Each seeks their own needs and nourishment,
1:16:07
but finds more in togetherness. Their journeys are aligned. They discover comfort in belonging.
1:16:14
They discover comfort in belonging. A warmth in community of kindred spirits. Again, it says the word
1:16:25
spirits. They drink deep from their petled cups and enjoy the sweet nectar. Nectar. I can enjoy the sweet
1:16:34
nectar. Yep. I'm going to draw another card, y'all. What do we get? It looks like the night of cups
1:16:45
in reverse. Also cups. That's true. That's true. He words are communication, romance, travel,
1:16:56
idealism, and flirtatiousness. We did walk in on a like a honeymoon suite. We did. That's so interesting.
1:17:07
This card indicates you're totally wrapped up in romantic ideas because nights signify messengers
1:17:15
and travel. This card can mean you receive a message, perhaps an expression of love from a suitor.
1:17:24
If this night represents an actual person, he's probably a young man with a poetic,
1:17:31
imaginative and affectionate nature, but he might not be dependable. This is totally in ego.
1:17:38
Like he was like the romantic shiverly shenanigans dude bro vibes. Oh man. Okay. We have extra
1:17:50
excerpts. So in it's in reverse. Yeah. The night of cups is the night of the grail legend.
1:18:00
The story of the grail search is an allegory of seeking truth, beauty, purpose, and salvation in life.
1:18:11
Interesting. Seeking salvation. Well, I mean, if you think about the holy grail. Yeah.
1:18:20
Super Jesus. He shit. Yeah. Yeah. WWJD and all that. You know. Okay. The night on a white horse.
1:18:31
Oh my god. This is like what he like thought himself to me.
1:18:35
Some decks, including the writer wait Smith and the thought hero show the night of cups,
1:18:44
writing a white horse, a romantic depiction of land. The fairy tale night on a white charger
1:18:52
come to carry you away to a fantasy land. Holy shit balls dude. I'm so glad I included my
1:19:00
friggin Wikipedia rabbit hole. Hmm. Okay. Let's hear about it in the reverse.
1:19:08
When the night of cups appears reversed, he may represent insecurity in decision lack of commitment
1:19:15
and immaturity, especially in relationships. I feel like that could be right on.
1:19:22
Sometimes he represents broken promises or deceit or an offer that's not based in reality.
1:19:34
Hmm. So he like went to this cave in man race and came up with he got he meditated and got
1:19:44
all of the plans or rules or whatever for the Jesuits. Interesting. Okay. This next part.
1:19:52
If he stands for an actual person, he's someone to avoid. He's not what he seems. He may not even know
1:20:03
himself who he is. Even if his intentions are good, he can't fulfill them. Yeah. No comment.
1:20:13
No notes. In a reading about money, this card warns, get out while you can.
1:20:19
Ooh. Someone may be trying to swindle you or an investment isn't sound. Ooh, the non-funnery.
1:20:31
A financial advisor may be untrustworthy or an offer is too good to be true.
1:20:36
If the reading is about your job, the reverse night can show dishonesty,
1:20:44
deviousness, or incompetence, either on your part or that of an employer or colleague.
1:20:51
A project may not get off the ground. If you're considering a job change, this card advises
1:20:59
against it. Yeah. Stick to your bakery, your bakery, your bank. Don't try to start a non-funnery.
1:21:07
In a reading about love, the night reversed indicates secrets and lies in a relationship.
1:21:16
A partner isn't being open or is conflicted about his or her feelings. Commitment isn't an option.
1:21:25
This card may also say you're living in a fantasy world. Stop dreaming and get real.
1:21:31
This could also be the woman who is waiting for her. That's why I'm thinking about the entire time
1:21:39
we're reading this card. Really? Yeah. I wasn't getting her until you said that. Oh no.
1:21:44
The entire time. Immediately, that was the vibe. So there was another version to that story where
1:21:51
he didn't die and he actually married someone else. Oh no. So it's possible she could have been in this
1:22:01
love affair with him, but he wasn't in it. You know what I mean? Yeah. For one reason or another.
1:22:11
Yeah. All of it's sad. Oh, I hate it. Yeah. I hate it so much. And we don't know the monk who
1:22:20
died by suicide. There might have been some sort of fantasy. I guess. I love going on as well. Yeah,
1:22:28
that's fair. Yeah. We don't know. Yeah. We don't know. What do you guys know? What do you think?
1:22:34
What do you think? Tell us what you know. Yeah. Were we wrong about everything?
1:22:39
How could that be? I don't know. We're right about everything. Oh, those are dolphins.
1:22:46
There are dolphins. Pacific white-sided dolphin. This is interesting. One of the key words on this
1:22:56
is emotion-motivated into action. Oh. Interesting. Which is like probably, yeah.
1:23:04
You die by suicide is like, yeah. Their emotion is making them take actions. Yeah. Yeah. That's really
1:23:12
interesting. Do you want me to read this? When in your blue eternity abounds such teaming life
1:23:20
diverse and countless ways within your depths, breath held. I hate when they do this. It's ever,
1:23:30
but it's like, e apostrophe you are. Yeah. I don't like saying it like that. Yeah. I'll ever be found.
1:23:38
Why can't you just say ever? That's just, yep. I'll ever be found a float in your embrace
1:23:45
through all my days. He went off to see. I forgot about that. I'm pretty sure. Maybe he didn't go to see.
1:23:54
I don't know. I mean, I feel like I'm remembering. It said he went to war, but I don't know. I feel like
1:23:59
he went off to see who knows. What were you going to say? What do you think? I feel like out a lot of
1:24:06
those windows, you can see the ocean. Oh, duh. We were in port. So probably if he was like leaving
1:24:13
from a port, he probably did go in to see that's. I'm not totally crazy. I mean, you're either looking
1:24:20
at the ocean and or the sky. Yeah. Either way, probably one or another shiny eternity abounds.
1:24:32
Which actually if it's blue sea, blue sky, yeah, blue eternity. Wow. That's cool.
1:24:41
Each season brings a change in your demeanor. In winter's weary stasis, spare a thought for your poor
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adoring suitors, growing leaner. We have faith. You love us back, but speak it not. Oh, what?
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That's like someone who's away at sea or thinking like I hope she's waiting for me. Wow.
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Wow. I like got full chills just. Yeah. In summer's warmth,
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relenting, you show care with sunlight swells and vibrant life of bloom. Enjoy a stance. I leap into
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the air, a gesture you return with sparkling plume. In consistent love, my home where I reside,
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your perfect in each season, every tide. I mean, blue eternity. Yeah. You can literally. I mean,
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I have to show you the picture that I took out the window. Yeah. Because you couldn't get up that
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step to look out the window and take a picture, right? Over the chair. No, yeah, I did. You did.
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Okay. I just like to show you. I didn't step on the platform, but I got to like the top step I
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could get out the window. Okay. So I guess the moral of the story is if you're going to go to
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a haunted place, just ask the nice front desk person if you can look around and don't be annoying
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about it. Yeah. Don't be disrespectful. Be nice. And if they say no, you can't go on the basement,
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maybe ask one more time. Yeah. It wasn't a hard no. It was like, I mean, there's nothing down there.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there wasn't to be fair. I just like had to go in the dungeon. Who doesn't want
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to go in a dungeon? Okay. I mean, I was fine. Just go in right past it. But, you know, some people,
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I see the words dungeon keep out and I want to go right in. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I saw the look in
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your eye. Yeah. I was like, I'm going in that dungeon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So thank you very much, Nova.
1:26:57
You're very sweet. Nova. Yeah. And then we gave her a little envelopes of the mini-terror reading. Yeah.
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Shared it on the social. Very nice. Very nice. We haven't shared it yet because we had to wait.
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Yeah. We missed a lot of sharing while we were traveling. I don't know. We're talking. We were busy.
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Sorry. It's all in the backlog. I was like, we have to remember to share that because we didn't
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want to share it too soon and let people know where we had been. Yeah. I think if people are paying
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attention closely, they kind of already knew this was coming because there's a couple of little
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drop-ins here in the room. Oh, yeah. But yeah. No, I mean, if you were paying half attention, you knew this one was
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obsessed coming. But I mean, okay. Well, also somebody said, man, Rasa in the last episode. Yeah,
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pressure that was you. No, it wasn't. It was. Oh, I thought it was you. I like blaming things.
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I know. Have a crazy. Stay. Stay. It's spooky.
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All right. Thanks so much, guys. This was so fun. All right. I got a bounce. I'm going to go get drunk.
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Go on your date. Get it. Yes. I'm going to get you faced. All right. Bye. Bye.
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So, it's my turn.
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Okay. Okay. Do you have the hiccups?
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