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High Velocity Pitching Mechanics · The Mound Visit

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So elbowflection real quick, I am basically looking at how bent or extended is
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that elbow joint. So if my arm is perfectly straight out like this,
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this would be zero degrees offlection. My arm was straight up like this at
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the elbow joint, that would be ninety degrees of reflection. And then if
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I continue to bend my arm, that would be greater than ninety degrees.
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I want it to be right around ninety or slightly inside ninety degrees offlection when
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my front foot hits the ground. All right, So today I wanted to
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talk a little bit about mechanics and what kind of makes a high velocity pitcher
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and what kind of mechanics they have, and so you know, I'm not
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too knowledgeable about the pitching mechanics, and so I kind of want to learn
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from you, Jared, and how you think about how you would develop a
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set of high velocity mechanics. And so my first question would be, so
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if you get an athlete right that you're training and he comes to you and
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is like, I'll want some high veloci mechanics, Like I think mechanics on
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my low hanging fruit I really want to throw hard? What are the first
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couple things that you look at like checkpoints wise for like those high velocity mechanics.
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Yeah, I typically like to start at the beginning of the delivery because
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I think I think if we look at the end of the delivery, the
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result of that, we can look at the previous segment and that's what led
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to that. Then the previous segment from there is probably what led to that.
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So if we have a good understanding of how the guy is starting,
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we'd have a pretty good idea of how he's finishing, if that makes sense.
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So I like to just start with simply like how are they set up
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on the mound? Is their backfoot open, is it closed? Is it
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flush against the rubber? Are they hooking the rubber? And all those strategies
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could work. There's plenty of guys in the big leagues that use all of
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those strategies, depending on how old they are, what their hip anatomy is,
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like, like, there's so many different ways to do it. So
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like, really, before you even look at the mechanics, you need to
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understand how that player can move. So that's why my work with guys,
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I do a mobility assessment, a movement screen. I want to get an
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idea generally speaking of how they move, so I have an idea of what
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they might be more prone to, or when I see something in the delivery,
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I can go, Okay, that makes sense because he lacks hip,
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I are in his back hip, he's a guy that has a more vertical
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shin and he's getting into more extra rotation in that hip. And if he's
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a guy that's trying to force into a rotation, he might be a guy
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that we make a simple adjustment of getting him just to be a little bit
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more vertical on that back leg to access a little bit more of the range
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of motion that he's capable of. So I think like it starts there,
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But as far as just looking at the delivery, I like to look at
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the back foot. What is that placement? And then when they go into
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their leg lift, what happens with that backfoot? Does it stay stable?
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Does their weight push forward towards their toes? Do they sit back towards their
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heels? Is I want that backfoot to be as stable as can be because
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when it's stable, we're able to create power and tension in our back hip,
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which is now going to allow us to transition down the mound more consistently
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versus wobbly or inefficiently if we're just all over the place from a stability standpoint,
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so like that would be the first thing. Ben Brewster from Tread actually
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had a really good simple tweet about this, of like a simple way to
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think about the delivery as a whole, And it's mainly lower half driven of
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a focus, but I think it makes sense. Like the first part of
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the delivery is the drift essentially, so like gaining momentum down the mound as
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you're going into leg lift doesn't need to be excessive, like guys don't need
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to be falling down the mound immediately as they lift their leg, but there
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should be some sort of momentum shift down the mounts where they're just getting a
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little bit of weight down there. After that, the next part is essentially
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just hinging or dropping down loading into that back leg. From there, it's
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rotation. From there, it's blocking with the lead leg. If you follow
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those segments, you're setting yourself up for a pretty high level. Now there's
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a bunch of you know, details within those things, but in simplest form,
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that's what it is. Drift. In other words, get your center
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of mass, your momentum moving down the mound, load, sit into that
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backhup, rotate in a footplant, and then block with that lead like so
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you can transfer the energy to the upper body. So I thought that was
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just a simple way to think about it. So that's really, honestly the
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way I think about it for the most part. Too. Now we can
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dive into some of the details of what does hinging loading mean, what does
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rotation mean, what does the lead like block? All those things, But
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I think that's a really simple and clean way to think about the delivery.
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Yeah, that's awesome. I think that's kind of what I've heard is that
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those checkpoints, you know, the low huffull it's drift, drop, rotate,
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and then block, and those are kind of the ones that I went
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off when I was playing in my professional career. But I'm curious, so
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when do you actually dive into those details versus just taking to those checkpoints when
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you're looking on an athlete. Is it like high level athletes you need to
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go into more detail or when do you look at more of those intricate details.
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Yeah, I mean I think with all athletes, I mean, you
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could if we have access to data for example, So like here in Arizona,
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I have access to a mound that has force plates in it as well
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as kin Attracts motion capture system, So it's markerless motion capture where I can
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see exactly how guys are rotating, how flex or extended their joints are.
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It's a very good detailed way for me to see what's going on in delivery.
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Now, I don't think that's necessary in most cases to know exactly what's
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going on in delivery. Like I don't think we need to get down to
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the exact number. In a lot of cases, if you have watched enough
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video and you know what you're looking for, you can see certain patterns.
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But typically, like especially with younger players and even some older players, like
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the biggest low hitting fruit for a lot of guys is that loading pattern.
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Is if if you can load well, if you can hinge well, you're
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setting yourself up to rotate well. If you rotate well, you're setting yourself
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up to block well. So I would say, honestly, probably eighty percent
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of the time with drills and things that I'm doing with guys, we are
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focusing on that loading pattern. We are focusing on are they able to actually
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hinge into that hip. How much depth can they get in that back leg
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without you know, dumping their torso forward or losing their balance, like finding
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that sweet spot of like how much depth they need their back legged to where
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they feel powerful they're hinging and setting them themselves up to rotate, you know,
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you know things like the lead leg block. You know that gets talked
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about a lot, especially a few years ago. That was talked about a
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ton and you know, the more we learn about it and what leads to
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it, it's it's really a byproduct of pelvis rotation and being able to rotate
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your hips really well. I don't think that's the only keys. I've seen
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plenty of guys that they get their hips in the right position, they're open
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enough of foot plan, and they still don't block well. I think there
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is a little bit of movement and skill capability of that of being able to
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rotate efficiently and allowing the lead leg to block. But you know, I
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try to keep it as simple as possible in most cases, whether it's a
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high school kid or even a professional guy, because at the end of the
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day, I want them to be able to pick up on it. Quickly,
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and usually me using big words or making it complicated doesn't do that.
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So if I can create an environment or a drill that can give them the
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feeling that we want, now they can try to see if they can create
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replicate that feeling on the mound and transfer it to their delivery where it matters
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most. Yeah, how about so like over compensations and so, like if
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someone does something really well but does something really badly, like how would you
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try to go fix that? I'm just thinking about like how I used to
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throw was I was terrible at the drift, you know, so I got
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no momentum down the mountain. I was, you know, even when I
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was started really hot, like at my peak, I was touching you know,
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the high nineties, ninety seven, ninety eight, I literally had no
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drift, but I change like really well yeah, and it was like I
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was like a deep squad, I don't know, and then I would just
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explode out of that. And so how would you kind of go around like
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if someone does something really well but does something really badly, would you try
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to fix that or would it would you like leave it alone because it might
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affect what they do really well? Yeah, that's such a good question.
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I would say in your case, like, if you're throwing ninety seven,
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I'm not touching it, like unless it's causing super inconsistent release points to where
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you're just scattering the ball all over the place because you're not drifting, you're
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just kind of sitting or squatting into that back leg. If it's causing you
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to jump out of it and you're just all over the place, maybe I
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would change it. But from a velocity standpoint, like you were creating,
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you know, elite velo. So I would say in that situation, I
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probably want it. Now. If it's the same exact mechanics and it's a
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kid throwing eighty, yeah, we're gonna have to make a change. Probably
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we need to create some sort of momentum. I'm curious for you when you
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were doing that, like did you it sounds like you were trying to drift
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a little bit more Like what type of strategies were you doing to try to
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improve that? Yeah, so yeah, I did try to improve that drift.
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When I was trying to improve the drift, I was a drive line
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baseball and the drift was like everyone was talking about it because I think that
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was like like all on social media, it was like, oh, the
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drift is like the unlocked to like plus three to four miles an hour.
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Oh. I was like, damn. I think I remember reading a thread
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about I think it was Ben Bruster Again. He was like, all right,
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I didn't I didn't want to like share this with like the public,
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but I'm actually going to share it right now. In this thread, the
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drift has shown to increase like two to four miles an hour as soon as
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you do it and stuff like that. So I was like, damn,
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I go to do it, and so I tried it. But what happened
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was when I would drift, it would rush my delivery and so I couldn't
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hinge well. Why I hinged well was because I was so like over my
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back leg and then I could just deep score into my back leg and then
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explode out of that. But when I drifted, it just felt like I
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was so rushed and I had a long action as well, so my arm
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wasn't on time, and so I kind of just scrapped it after that.
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But you know, like I have always tried to work on it because people
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say it creates more like effortless velocity instead of like food velocity. I don't
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know how true it was, but like when I was starting at seventy eighty
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percent, i'd have a hard time getting into the eighties just because like I
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was such a you know, like getting into the deep squad and then like
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relying on that power to getting that velo. So I did try to work
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on it, but like it created more problems than so I just kind of
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scrapped it. Yeah, do you know are you a Are you more of
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like an er dominant guy. I'm guessing you are based off of just watching
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your mechanics. Do you know what I mean by that? Yeah? Definitely.
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Yeah, I have like zero degrees of That's how I am too.
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Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like the guys that drift the best,
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they're more ir dominant. Like Brewster for example, he has tons of
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r because just like you said, you started drifting forward and it made it
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nearly impossible for you to feel like you could get depth on that back leg.
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And it's because of the position that now your hips were in, you
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needed to access more hip inter rotation in order to see it that same amount
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of depth that you had. And for me, when I would try to
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do it as probably similar feeling as you. It was almost like there was
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a blockage. I like literally couldn't go down because I was too far out
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front. So for me, I had to make it more gradual, and
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I kind of did one naturally, but I had a horrible depth on my
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back leg. And I think it's because I was trying to be an IR
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guy when I was actually an ER guy. I just didn't know it at
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the time. When I was playing, I wasn't aware of those two terms
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and what that meant exactly in the pitching delivery. But looking back on it,
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like, that's that makes sense now from my own career. Like Jacob
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de Gram, he's like the poster boy for the drift because he drifts perfectly
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and then also sits perfectly with plenty of depth on the back leg. And
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that's why he's a guy that you know throws one hundred, one hundred and
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two miles an hour at one hundred and seventy pounds. It looks like,
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yeah, for sure. So let's say that you're trying to make like a
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mechanical change, are you more of a I'm going to give them a queue
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or I'm going to give them a drill. Which one do you prefer or
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is it very dependent? I would say I do both. Honestly, I'll
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give him a drill, but I usually give him a queue within the drill,
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because so basically, I'll just say what my process is. Whenever i'm
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showing someone a drill, I'm explaining what we're trying to actually accomplish, and
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then I show them my self doing the drill. Hopefully I'm doing it the
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way I want it to look, but I'm trying to show them visually,
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like this is what you look like. Then I express what I'm feeling.
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I'm not saying necessarily that's what you need to feel exactly, but what I
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feel and I do it is X, Y and Z. First, I'll
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just let them throw, let them do it, see what it looks like,
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and if I see there's something that maybe we need to fix, then
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i'll give a cue from there. But typically to start off with tell them
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what it is, why we're doing it, demonstrate it, let them do
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it for a couple and if I need to intervene with like another queue to
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get them in a little bit better position, I'll do it. And sometimes
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it's as simple as you know, It's like a drill that I do sometimes
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is call a post ser or step back. So if you're right handed,
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you would be facing third base. You would set back in the direction of
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first base, lift your leg, throw it a home. Some guys when
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they do that, their toes on their back foot start to lift up because
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they start falling towards first base instead of actually staying stacked and then hinging.
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So I'll just give them a cue, or I'll simply just tell them,
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like, hey, your big toe on your right foot is coming up right
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now, think about your big toe. Just staying in the ground as long
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as you can. Usually that will fix it or at least allow them to
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stay connected better, and now they can hinge better. But I try not
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to do too much because the more words you give them, the more things
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you try to describe, it just freezes players up, and then they don't
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execute it, and now they're not they're not accomplishing what you want them to
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accomplish. And at the end of the day, we need the drills to
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transfer to the game or to the mount and to their regular delivery. But
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early on it can't be challenging as a coach to not use so many words,
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because you wanted to be done a certain way. But I try my
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best just to let the drill demonstrate it and then give them some cues along
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with it as needed. Yeah, that makes sense. I want to get
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your thoughts on this actually, So I'm thinking back, so all my career
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until I got my back surgery and then my mechanics kind of got messed up.
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But before then, I tell my mechanics were like really good. I
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was on like a ton of mo caps, like and they didn't really find
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anything though, like hey, like you could probably drift them. But aside
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from that, like everything looks good, and I kind of think about it,
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and I'm like, I never actually did any like mechanical work. The
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only thing that I did was the drive line coal exercises, So it was
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like the pickoff, the roll in the rock a drill and the the role.
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No, it was like yeah walking wind up, yeah, walking wind
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up. So that's all I did, and I did that for like two
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to three years and that kind of just formed my mechanics. And obviously I
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was lifting as well, and so maybe that helped a little bit. But
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do you think that just just doing like those drills could form like pretty good
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mechanics or I just kind of got lucky. No, I mean, I
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think there's something to be said for that. I mean, it sounds like
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you had very little verbal coaching. It's kind of you just on your own
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doing this and that's what it morphed into. It is interesting though, because
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a couple of those drills are kind of gear towards having a pretty good drift,
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Like the walking wind up is about creating momentum its your leg left roland
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is more lead leg base, I guess, but there is still momentum going
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to it. What do you think led to the depth on your back leg?
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Do you think it's just the mobility that you had in er so you're
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allowed to get a ton of depth, or like were you trying to get
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as deep as you could in your delivery in that back leg? Yeah?
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I think honestly it might be because of my Japanese background and how like,
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you know, when I was really young, I'd just try to imitate you
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know, Davish and these Japanese guys, and they pitch really different, like
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they have no drift, They're just up and like a lot of them,
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even poles we even see like you know, Yamamoto. He has that like
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a slide set one but beforehand, if you see him in Japan, he
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will come up and you'll pulls. And same with Ima Naga. They all
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like have that leg lift and then pause and then trying to get into that
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back leg as aggressively as possible. And I feel like maybe that's a little
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bit to do with it. I know when Shohey came to the MLB,
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I was just trying to pitch like him, and he has no drift as
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well, and so I feel like maybe just imitating those guys, it's kind
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of what happened. But also I'm a huge er guy, Like I like
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my er is like off the charts and I have like zero IR and so
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that and also like I can squat a lot. Like back then I was
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just my the squat was my favorite exercise. I could squat the house,
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and so I felt really comfortable having that vertical chine angle yeah, and just
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loading my whole body weight into it. And I remember like when I was
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at my best, I don't recommend anyone do this because this is what fucked
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up my back, but I had like three p thirty on the bar and
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I was doing explosive like jump squads, so like I'd go down ast as
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quickly as I could, and then I'd come up and like jump off the
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floor with three point thirty. And I'm pretty certain that that's what led to
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all my my discs stuff. But yeah, that could have been. That
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could have felt good. Yeah, it felt really good at the time,
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but not after like a couple of months. But yeah, I think it
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was just a combination of just really explosive legs like Japanese, like I wanted
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to pitch like the Japanese and also the er, and so that's kind of
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what led to the huge deep squad. There's a video of me, actually,
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I think you might have seen it, Like there's a video of me
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like behind behind you and there's like a hitter there and then I'm throwing like
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a live VP, yeah, and that it throws me like a huge like
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deep squad. So I'm always like, damn, I wish I could do
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that still, but you get pretty deep sill, don't you. No.
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I try, but then I try, but then like I go like cross
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buddy because I can't get down anymore. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah,
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but no, I'm I'm working on my flexibility right now for my back though,
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to try to get back into like I don't know if I want to
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make a comeback or nothing. I don't want to say anything, but yeah,
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I'm working on my flexibility in my back to be able to get into
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those positions again. Yeah, I love it. Well, bring me along
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with you because I need it. My hips are horrible. I have zero,
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zero mobility or flexibility anymore. I used to be pretty flexible, but
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now my hips are just they're terrible. They hurt sitting down for too long.
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Yeah, for sure. All right, So my next question is,
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you know, like athletes go through all these mo caps and and like get
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all these like bunch of numbers that are like spat at you. How important
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do you think those like details are or if you're hitting, like you know
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these checkpoints that we just talked about, the drift drop, rotate, lead,
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leg block, how important do those like numbers become to try to get
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to the next level. I think they're important because they basically just tell us
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how well are you doing those things? So, like from a force plate
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mound standpoint, that's going to tell us how much force you're putting into the
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ground in that back leg in three different directions, So it's gonna tell us
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how much force are you putting straight into the ground. So for you being
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so and they didn't drift a lot, but you got super deep in that
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back leg, you were probably off the charts with force being put straight into
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the ground. Then there's the force between second and home plate, so basically
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pushing off of the rubber. How much force is going in this direction,
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And then there's the force in the direction first and third, and that we
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want to be as little as possible because that would be a that we are
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either pushing towards across our body towards thirdy you're riety towards first if you're lefty,
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or we're falling back, so neither of those are well, we want
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that to be as little as possible. So that like for me, like
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let's just say we're talking about the low, we're talking about, you know,
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drifting, and we're talking about how well you can sit into the back
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leg. That's going to be representing four foot numbers. Now, people,
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I don't know what those numbers mean. They wouldn't mean anything for me to
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say right now, so I don't need to go over the specific details but
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what I am saying is it will tell us are you within a normal range
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or above average range based on those numbers, And it can be led back
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to if we look at video, Okay, how well are you cre momentum
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do on the mound? How much force are you putting into the ground straight
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down? And I can tell you like just doing this, you know for
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a long time, and pro ball is able to use a forceplate mound on
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a regular basis. The guys that have the deepest loads, they created the
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most force straight down into their ground. And it makes sense, right like
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if I'm going straight down, I'm creating all of this flexion and bend in
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my legs. As I come out of that, I'm going to be putting
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four into the ground. So that's why for me, I actually threw on
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a foresplate down with the twins, wants just to test myself on it.
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And like I told you earlier, no very little flexition, just horrible flexibility.
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I was well well well below average from a force production standpoint, even
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for my body weight. So they put it on the same scale as your
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body weight so that it is better representation. Because obviously, you know,
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if I'm out one hundred and eighty pounds and I have the same amount of
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force in the back leg as someone that's two hundred and fifty pounds. Mine
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is going to be a lot more impressive based off of my body weight,
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so we always want to make sure it's represented accordingly with that. But that's
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I mean in a nutshell like, That's why I think mo caps and force
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plates are useful is because it just tells us how well are you doing those
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things that we deem as important in the delivery And we can now, you
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know, over a large sample, we can find out what do the best
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in the world do, How fast do they rotate, how fast does their
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lead legs start to extend, or how flexed is it at ball release.
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There's all these different details that we can start to dive into about, you
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know, what do the hardest in the world do. Now, most people
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don't have access to that data, but people are pretty willing to share some
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of this stuff online and you start to get a pretty good idea of what
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the best in the world do. Now, with that said, just having
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the information and knowing that you're good at something or not good at something,
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you're bad at something, not bad at something, that's good. That's important
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because it tells us what we need to work on. But if you don't
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have a plan to improve those things, or you don't know how to improve
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those things, it essentially just becomes information and that's all it is. So
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you want to make sure that you're able to actually put a plan in place
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to improve those things. And one last thing I'm kind of going on a
23:34
tangent with all the mo cap stuff and force plate mounts is there's so much
23:40
data. Like if you ever just get a report with your stuff, there
23:42
is so much information in there. You got to know what's important what's not.
23:47
And usually talking with a coach that has experienced with it would be helpful
23:51
because you want to keep the main thing the main thing. Like if something
23:53
is technically below average and it means virtually nothing, like you don't want to
23:57
waste your time trying to fix that when you should be focused on something that's
24:00
going to have a larger effect on your delivery. So that would be my
24:04
advice is like be careful not getting lost in the weeds on the numbers,
24:07
but understand like what is the lowest hitting fruit? Is there something that's so
24:11
big that I can improve that's going to impact the rest of my delivery positively.
24:15
M Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And so have you
24:19
ever seen someone who has like who checks all of those boxes like the five
24:25
that we just talk about, but just somehow doesn't throw hard, But then
24:30
you like find out why on the mogap. Yes, so there's definitely people
24:37
that, Yeah, it looks like they drift well, they hinge well,
24:40
they rotate well, their lead leg seems to block well, and they still
24:42
don't throw hard. I would say I actually have seen that a few times.
24:47
And usually the lead cause is just the speed at which everything is happening.
24:49
They're just they're not able to move fast enough. The rotation isn't happening
24:53
fast enough. From the time the front foot lands till they release the ball
24:57
is just happening in a slower window. They may be checking these boxes of
25:02
being in good positions at you know, at certain points in the delivery,
25:04
but if you're not moving fast through those segments from one after another, you're
25:10
gonna be limited on how hard you're gonna throw. Mm hmm. That's where
25:12
building the engine like the weight room, and the weight room isn't the only
25:15
thing that's gonna help with this. But like, you can move well and
25:19
get into good positions, and you can throw decently hard, like especially if
25:22
you're if you're undersize, you probably can still throw decently hard for your body
25:26
weight. But the missing link to moving faster producing more force is probably in
25:32
the weight room and just developing some of those skills that are involved in that.
25:36
Mm hmm, yeah, that makes a little sense. I want to
25:41
move it into a little bit of a tricky subject. I don't know,
25:44
it might be an easy one though, uh the arm action and so uh
25:52
for me, this was like a little bit of a tricky one because throughout
25:56
my whole career I had a really long arm action and then like that was
26:02
fine, It was fine. But then I actually don't know why if I'd
26:06
have just been like watching like Spencer Strider or something and I was like,
26:10
all right, I'm going to shorten my arm action, and so like for
26:14
my last two years of Pro Bowl, I shortened my arm action and it
26:18
actually improved my command, I felt like, but like I started throwing slow,
26:25
and so it's just so interesting because some people shorten the arm action,
26:29
like Spencer Strider, and I had a lot of teammates who did that and
26:33
they started throwing hotter, but it had the reverse effect for me. How
26:38
do you kind of think about, all right, maybe we should shorten the
26:42
arm action, maybe we should just not touch the arm action, and like,
26:48
yeah, how do you think about that? Yeah, when I'm looking
26:52
at arm action, like, I want to see the timing of it,
26:56
so like the time that the arm flips up and is in the position where
27:00
it's ready to lay back. So basically I want to look at how does
27:03
the arm go from the start of the delivery to when the front foot lands.
27:07
What does that sequence look like in that spiral? Where is that arm
27:11
at in space when the front foot lands, and then how does it unravel
27:14
into ball release when it comes to the length of the arm action. Like,
27:18
I don't have preference whether it's loane or short. I just want you
27:22
to be on time. And what I mean by on time is when my
27:25
front foot lands, I want your arm to have around ninety degrees of elbow
27:30
flection. So I'm gonna scoot over here so I can show in the video,
27:33
so elbow flextion real quick. I am basically looking at how bent or
27:37
extended is that elbow joint. So if my arm is perfectly straight out like
27:42
this, this would be zero degrees offlection. My arm was straight up like
27:47
this at the elbow joint, that would be ninety degrees of reflection. And
27:48
then if I continue to bend my arm that would be greater than ninety degrees.
27:52
I want it to be right around ninety or slightly inside ninety degrees of
27:56
flection when my front foot hits the grind. Now external and inter rotation.
28:03
That's the other part of arm timing. So now we're measuring how far internally
28:07
rotated to the palm going down or externally rotated. The palm going up is
28:11
the arm in the front foot lands. So for this one, I'm gonna
28:12
show from the side view like this. If my arm is like this,
28:17
this would be zero degrees of extra rotation. My arm was straight up like
28:22
this, so my palm is facing perfectly straight ahead, this would be ninety
28:26
degrees of extrodation. The more it loads back, the higher that number is.
28:30
So when guys are like in full laid back their palm is up to
28:32
the sky, that would be one hundred and eighty degrees of extra rotation.
28:36
So this is kind of a broader range usually between like forty five to ninety
28:40
degrees of flextion is ideal. So I'll basically think like right here all the
28:45
way up to the arm being straight right around that range when you're starts.
28:48
When you start to get late is when the arm is like facing the ground
28:51
like this, or you have the inverted w where that arm is kind of
28:53
stuck back here and the elbow starts to get above the shoulder line and that
28:56
palm is below the elbow or your hand is below your elbow. That would
29:00
definitely be a concern for a late arm. And you know, velocity is
29:03
definitely a part of this of like an army and time, But I also
29:07
like to look at it from a health standpoint, like I'm not going to
29:10
say that it's the only reason guys get hurt, Like there's it's so hard
29:14
to figure out arm injuries, Like it's not one thing. There's workload management,
29:18
there's you know, just the fatigue of the arm, different pitches that
29:22
they're throwing that are maybe causing more stress on their arm. But I do
29:25
think that the arm timing does play a role, Like I think you can
29:29
look at countless pitchures I've gotten hurt, and a lot of them do have
29:33
arm action issues where they're a little bit late. So I don't want to
29:36
say once again, I don't want Anyonet to message us and be like I
29:38
said that arm injuries are all caused by arm action issues, but I do
29:42
think that it does play a role in it. So from a health standpoint,
29:45
that's what I like to see is guys have been around ninety degrees or
29:48
sorry, between forty five and ninety degrees of R and right around ninety degrees
29:52
of elbow flection when their front foot lands. It's just because it puts you
29:56
in a better position to where now, if I land here and I'm ready
29:57
to rotate, my arm is to lay back and it has a larger window
30:02
too, laid back over a greater period of time as the arm unravels to
30:06
throw the baseball, Versus if I'm late and I start to rotate in this
30:08
late position, my arm's gonna have to bounce in and out of er very
30:11
quickly to throw the baseball. So from that standpoint, it's just like it
30:15
doesn't make sense from an efficiency standpoint on the delivery. And then when we
30:18
talk about elbow flexion, like just think about this like I want you,
30:22
Josh, you know, maybe you can feel, maybe you can't, but
30:25
I want you to hold your arm up like this. Okay, have your
30:27
arm, let's go slightly inside ninety I want you to try to lay back
30:32
as far as you can with your arm in that position. Pretty easy,
30:34
doesn't feel terrible. Let's you have a shoulder issue, now go back.
30:37
I want you to have your arm outside ninety degrees. I'd be like forty
30:41
five degree angle. Now try to lay back from that position. It's a
30:45
much more difficult position to get into. To lay back, you have to
30:48
force it a little bit more, and it's just going to put a little
30:49
bit more vulnerability at the elbow joint and the shoulder. So it's just from
30:53
like just like a health standpoint, like when we when we're our strongest and
30:56
we're doing exercises, like if you were to hold a dumbell, like another
31:00
example, if you were to do like a waiter walk hole a dumbbell,
31:02
it's gonna be a lot easier and you're gonna be stronger holding at this ninety
31:04
degree and go versus if you were holding it way out here trying to stabilize
31:07
it. That's gonna put a lot more pressure on the shoulder. So that's
31:11
like a couple of the main things that I like to look for. And
31:14
there's guys that they have a long arm action and they were able to get
31:17
into that position. You guys have a short arm action. They're able to
31:18
get in that position as long as it's in sequence and the timing is good
31:22
with the rest of your delivery. I think both arm actions can work.
31:26
I don't think it's one over the other. It's all about the timing and
31:29
how your arm is moving in and out of positions with the rest of your
31:30
delivery. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. It's interesting because I
31:38
had that issue where it's like I'm landed and I'm like right here, and
31:42
I'm barely like my almost barely. I was pretty much like horizontal right here,
31:49
and so I did do some work on that to where I'm landing right
31:53
here. What happened was I felt like I lost all the slack in my
31:59
arm. It didn't feel like tight, and so I actually lost view of
32:04
from doing that. When I was here it felt like everything was really tight
32:08
elastic, and then I could just whip through. But here it felt like
32:14
I was just kind of like there was no elastic going on. It was
32:19
just like coming down. And so, so you know what I see a
32:23
lot is that like if someone has a really good frame, like they're like
32:28
six' three and like two hundred or something, and they throw in the
32:31
low eighties, and something that I see is like the action and timing is
32:37
just like way off. It's just like it's just like, yeah, you
32:40
just need to fix that, and you're going to gain like five miles an
32:44
hour type thing. So how would you kind of like look at that and
32:50
try to fix that? Are you are you like a way to bulls type
32:53
guy drill drills or is it more just like queues? Yeah? I use
33:00
both. So the big thing that I like to do is start with the
33:05
takeaway usually because like the way the hand comes out of the glove kind of
33:07
sets you up for what the rest of the arm action is going to do.
33:09
So, like if you're a guy that has a pronated takeaway, for
33:13
an example, let's just say your palms facing towards the ground or sorry,
33:16
slightly away from your body as you take it out of your glove, you're
33:20
going to have a more stabby arm action. Most likely and that could lead
33:22
to the arm blad or outside ninety or whatever it might be. So like,
33:25
if that's the case, we'll start with the action, start with the
33:29
takeaway, having your palm or your hand in a neutral position so that when
33:32
I take out of my glove, my elbows closer to my body and my
33:37
palm is facing towards my body, which shouldn't make it a little bit easier
33:39
to be efficient with that arm path And really, so like that's like an
33:45
idea if a guy has a takeaway issue, But like the first thing you
33:47
have to do is you have to show them what the issue is, and
33:52
not only with the issues, but also show them where they need to be
33:55
at. So like if I just show you, like if I tell you
33:58
your arm's light you need to be on, that could mean a thousand different
34:00
things depending on who you're asking, Like to some kids, they might not
34:04
know. They might think that this means on time, or that this means
34:07
on time. They just don't know. So you need to show them what
34:10
that range is. What we're ideally looking for Now we're not artificially creating these
34:15
positions, but in general we want to be in this here. So a
34:20
lot of times, like applyaballs, we're all just pret a ninety ninety position
34:24
where they're doing a pivot pick, where they're doing a sagrestance throw, doing
34:30
any sort of throw where they're kind of preset in that ninety ninety position.
34:32
And the reason I like to start with that is because I want them to
34:36
feel what it feels like to be in the right position. And a lot
34:38
of times when a guy is a late issue and you put them there,
34:40
they feel out there early because their arm is just so much more excellently rotated
34:44
than it's used to. Once they get used to that, can they show
34:47
that they can throw it well from that position, then you can start to
34:51
progress to a folder arm action, trying to get into that same position,
34:54
but still doing it in more of a constraint a constrain lead drill, whether
35:00
it's you know, you're isolating just the upper half with a pivot pic or
35:02
you're doing maybe like a one step in throw something to where it's just a
35:06
little bit more modified to where it can be easier to get into that position,
35:09
and then you can start to slowly progress it to more dynamic drills and
35:13
eventually, of course to your regular deliveries ultimately where we need this to be.
35:16
That's kind of like the way I like to look at is like show
35:19
them what they need to actually do. What does that actually mean to be
35:22
on time? Put them in a more constrained position so they're forced to be
35:25
in that and they can feel it, and then progress to more dynamic drills
35:30
more freedom than the throat. Now they have to in that position. All
35:35
right, So full the listeners out there. I want to go into just
35:42
like quick like rapid fire. So like, what kind of drill is your
35:46
favorite to address each part of the delivery? So like to get better at
35:52
the drift? What drill would it be like the hinge? And then just
35:57
go through them one by one? Okay, what do you think? What's
36:01
your favorite drill for addressing the drift? The drift I like to do.
36:08
I don't know if this is actually what it's called, but this is what
36:10
we call the twins. Is the Bower drill. Have you heard of the
36:14
Bower drill? No? No, it's basically a modified walking wind up and
36:22
I think it's called the Bower drill, or we called it that because this
36:23
was kind of what Trevor Bauer's delivery was like, it's kind of like an
36:27
old school type delivery. You step with your front leg back towards second base,
36:32
pretty extreme, and then you essentially just stop from there and then go
36:37
into your leg lift. And because you're starting for their back and you bring
36:38
your leg up and for it, it's going to naturally push you forward a
36:42
little bit towards home to create a little bit more momentum. But it's not
36:45
like a walking wind up to where it's just so fast and so much momentum
36:47
that sometimes it can be hard to control. It gives you just a little
36:51
bit of that extra momentum to move down the mound. That actually reminded me
36:55
of something the zumbro he told me. He was like, you know,
37:00
there's like two types of guys. There's guys who are like super elastic,
37:05
and you want to be like in and out of positions. You don't want
37:07
to be in like deep positions. And there are other guys who are like
37:10
more like strength bound, like you want to get into like deep positions and
37:15
then use your strength to get out of it. Would would you say that
37:20
the drift is more for the guys who are like super elastic or it doesn't.
37:25
It doesn't matter which side it is. That's a good question. Yeah,
37:32
I would say, yeah, probably more elastic, but I think it
37:35
can work for both guys. It's just maybe how extreme it is is going
37:37
to differ based off of that. M Okay, all right, So how
37:43
about the hinge? Gosh, this is a tough one because there's so many
37:47
different variations, Like, there's so many drills for this. It just kind
37:51
of depends on what the player needs exactly, Like do they need to create
37:55
more depth on the back leg to where they're getting more force straight into the
37:58
ground. Do they need to create more of a coil in the back leg.
38:01
So I'll give you a couple ideas and tell you what I think it
38:06
will help with. If we're talking about guys that just kind of need to
38:07
just sit more into that back leg and get more depth, like you like
38:12
to be able to do what you were able to do. There's two drills
38:15
I like, and they're basically a progression of each other. One of them
38:17
is what I call a depth. So I started doing this about three or
38:22
four years ago. Some guys said on a twelve inch box it could be
38:27
slightly higher, I guess, but it doesn't need to be crazy high.
38:30
You step off just like you're doing a depth jump. So those that have
38:32
done a depth jump or a depth drop, you essentially like step off of
38:36
a box, absorb the force, stabilize it, and that's it for this.
38:39
For the throwing version of this, you would do that on your back
38:43
leg. You would absorb the force on that back leg, sinking into it,
38:45
and then drive towards your target to throw the ball. And what I
38:49
like about it is, at least I felt like when you do that,
38:52
or you do a depth drop a normal depth drop, where you stabilize and
38:55
where you land is probably where you feel the strongest. And that's a good
39:00
indicator of probably how deep your load should be because that's where you feel the
39:05
strongest, that's where you feel stable. So when guys would do that,
39:07
usually get a forty five degrees, sometimes deeper depending on who they were of
39:10
how much step they had, but they're able to feel, Okay, this
39:14
is where I feel the strongest. This is where I'm absorbing the force,
39:15
and now I transition that into a throw. So that's that's one for like
39:21
just getting more depth on it. Another version of that that you could do
39:23
if you're in a bullpen or on a mountain, you don't have access to
39:27
a box or something. Is just doing a single leg hop throw, so
39:31
you could just step into it, hop on your back leg, land on
39:36
that back leg, absorb the force, and throw. So it's a similar
39:38
thing. You're landing on one leg, absorbing that force and getting a little
39:42
bit of depth as you drive down the mound to throw. So that would
39:45
be yeah, for more depth ones one. If you want to get a
39:47
little bit more coil, create a little more tension into the hip, like
39:52
more of a winding effect. I really like like a walking step back version.
39:57
So what that would look like is having facing towards my target, taking
40:02
a step or two back towards my back leg, going into my leg lift,
40:07
and not letting my weight continue to shift back towards second base, but
40:10
be stable on that back leg, get a little bit of counter rotation in
40:14
that lead leg as I go into my leg lift, and then transition it
40:17
back down the mound. So instead of like a traditional step back to where
40:21
you know me being left hand, I'm facing first base to where I just
40:23
step back towards second base and then throw this one, I'm starting facing towards
40:29
home So as I step back, I have to get a little bit of
40:30
a turn with my lower half to create a little bit of a coil and
40:34
say more stable on that back leg. Okay, yeah, that makes sense,
40:39
all right, So next one rotation pelvis or torso or both to say,
40:46
let's just say hit the shoulder separation. So for me, that's driven
40:52
mainly by the pelvis, and really that drill that I just explained to actually
40:54
would help with that because I'm creating tension in that back have, I'm creating
40:58
a little bit of a coil, and the effect of that is because I'm
41:01
winding the hip one direction, it's going to want to unwind the other way.
41:06
So if I'm able to wind it well and load it well in that
41:08
back as I load as I go down the mount, it's going to want
41:12
to rotate towards home plate. So like that would be one drill that I
41:15
absolutely love. Trying to think of another one for that, honestly, Like
41:22
core velocity belt type stuff is great, I think just for feeling it because
41:24
you don't have to force it, but you can put the bands in certain
41:28
positions to help feel it, and you can also have it resisting you so
41:31
that you have to actively rotate a little bit more. Otherwise you're just gonna
41:35
get stuck in the hips. You're going to stay closed. Yeah, I
41:37
mean my favorite one was just like the rollings. I remember like just using
41:42
it as a warm up, like felt so good. It is like your
41:45
feet are facing forward and then like I would just try to rotate, like
41:49
counter rotate as much as possible and then like have my legs fire and then
41:54
I'll throw and as a wolmump, I thought that like really help my hit
42:00
to short of separation and just the range of motion creating through the Yeah,
42:05
for sure, it's kind of my favorite one. I think for the hinge,
42:09
I really like the step backs, just stepping back and then so all
42:14
your weights on your back leg and then I would just just get right into
42:19
that back leg and then just buy it. But all right, so the
42:22
second lost one lead leg. What's your favorite drip? So, once again,
42:29
like I said earlier, the pelvis is kind of a big driver of
42:31
the lead leg block. If my hips aren't in the right position, if
42:34
they're not open enough, it's not going to block super well. But honestly,
42:37
a lot of drills I like for the lead leg don't even involve throwing.
42:40
I do a lot of like PBC pipe exercises and three D strap stuff.
42:45
So three D strap for those that don't know, it's basically like a
42:47
core velocity belt but for the upper body, or you can use it for
42:51
the upper body. I really like that. I can attach some videos in
42:53
the show notes for that for people to check out. But so cause it's
42:59
really it's like getting the hips in the right position is obviously like the most
43:01
important thing, but it's also just like the skill of learning how to feel
43:07
the back hip rotating into the front hip and that front hip naturally pulling back.
43:12
It's like this this move of the back hip going forward and the front
43:15
hip coming back, And I think like that's partially a trained skill that guys
43:21
have to actually develop. I don't think just getting your hips open is necessarily
43:24
going to allow that to happen. Like some guys they'll get the hips open
43:27
and they just sink forward into that lead leg they push it into release and
43:30
they're not actually blocking that lead leg. So I like to do a lot
43:35
of rotational stuff in the weight room to where it's like all pelvis rotation stuff
43:37
and learning how to rotate the back hip into the front hip and as a
43:42
result that front hip pulling back. One thing that I do like to do,
43:46
and you can really do this with any drill I like to do with
43:49
the delivery. I like to do it with like figure eight rockers, anything
43:52
like that, is to put a hurdle or something like that just in front
43:57
of where your foot lands. But it needs to be something that's raised little.
44:00
It's like a hurdle is a good example. You can get one that's
44:02
like raised up to about knee height, have it about two inches in front
44:06
of your foot lands, and when you when you throw, you just give
44:08
a guy a que you say, don't hit that. Don't hit the hurdle.
44:13
Don't let your kne hit the hurdle. It's as simple as that.
44:15
And what ends up happening is they go to throw their front foot lands and
44:17
they stop all that full momentum and they just rotate aggressively around that front leg
44:22
because they're the environment is telling them that's what they have to do in order
44:24
to not hit that hurdle. And those types of drills are my favorites because
44:29
the less talking I have to do, the better. If it just clicks
44:31
with just an environment change, and they do that enough, they're gonna be
44:35
able to do it without that hurdle being there because there's really nothing forcing them
44:37
to do that move. It's the regular delivery. There's just an object there
44:42
that's making them throw a little bit differently. Mm hmm, yeah, that
44:45
makes sense. I actually didn't learn about how the lead leg is actually like
44:52
the publish rotation is what affects a lead leg until late in my career.
44:57
But I had a really good lead leg and everyone would tell me I had
45:00
a really good lead leg, and I actually truly believe that what developed it
45:06
was just poe downs and so like a drive line when I was like sixteen,
45:12
we'll do the like full on like running guns, like sprint a Hoji
45:16
can for like, uh, you know, thirty forty feet turn and then
45:22
you're just throwing it as hig as you can. And my focus there was
45:27
like I'm sprinting, and then I was trying to like get my lead leg
45:30
and just stop all my momentum so that I don't like I stop all of
45:35
that sprinting energy. You know that that might not have been like the smartest
45:39
way to go about it. But do you think that's still like a viable
45:43
thing to develop it? Yeah, like that that is the ultimate create as
45:49
much momentum as possible and make it extremely difficult to stop that momentum. Like
45:52
most guys, like you're not gonna block perfectly well doing doing a pulldown like
45:57
that, Like the leg it might straighten into ball really spits quickly going to
46:00
bend again. Otherwise you're gonna probably snap your hamstrain or do something. But
46:05
yeah, that's like the ultimate. That's like the ultimate underload of speedwork to
46:09
force yourself to block with that lead leg. Like, I think that's a
46:13
great, great drill for guys to do for that purpose. I think that's
46:15
an undervalued thing that that is valuable about pulldowns. I was watching a terror
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of our video too actually on his YouTube not that long ago, and he
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was doing pulldowns and he actually mentioned that exact thing. He loves it for
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his lead leg. Yeah. No, I see people like trying to do
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pulldowns and they do like they're like throw it and like jump forward and stuff.
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It's like, no, like just try to like stick it. Yeah,
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it's so good for your front leg. But yeah, no, I
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used to love it all right, last one full. I know this is
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like a hard one. But for the om action, what what would be
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like the one drill that you would say that's your favorite. Well, once
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again depends on what it is. Is it a double flection issue or is
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it a shoulder er issue. Let's just say like someone comes in with a
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terrible action and you can only prescribe them like two to three exercises to try
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to get it to a decent action. First one is something I call club
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feels, So I use like a it's an oat specialties club. It's like
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a mini bat. You could use an Indian club, you could use anything
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like that. A water bottle and basically what you do you hold it in
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your glove, You get into your full stride just to start, and the
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object is to take it out of your glove and bring it to a ninety
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ninety position without dumping the barrel of the bat or the Indian club. So
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trying to show I don't have a water bottle with me, but here I'll
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hold my phone. So let's just say that this is the top of the
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water bottle. If I dump the water, that's a sign that I'm pronating.
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I'm probably not put myself in a good position. So the goal is,
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can I keep the top of the water bottle or the club facing up
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until I get back here. I can dump the water behind my head,
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I can do whatever back here. So that's the idea is like keep keep
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the water in the cup until it's behind your head, So feel that over
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and over. Like, so this is like one of the first things I
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have guys do because I want them to get a feel for, like what
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do I want my arm action to be, How does it need to feel?
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How am I going to get into that position? So like that's like
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the first one. That's something like it's so simple and it doesn't necessarily like
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have a ton of carryover directly necessarily, but I think just feeling it and
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having an idea of where I need to be in space with my arm is
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absolutely important. And I'll blend that with throats, Like I'll have guys do
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two reps of that two dry reps of that full arm action, and then
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they'll go immediately into a plyo throw right after it, so they can try
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to replicate that exact feeling. So like drill blending I think is really important,
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especially for arm action stuff because you want to feel it as quickly as
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you can with your regular arm motion. So that would be one. Another
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one would be doing anything time constraint related. And what I mean by that
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is if you give guys less time to get their arm up going to move
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faster, They're going to move in and out of positions faster and likely get
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in a better position. So it could be as simple as doing like a
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double play feed where I underhand a ball to a guy he quickly has to
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catch and release it. I did one recently with a guy that worked really
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well. Was I had him just pretend to be a catcher. I threw
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him the ball. I didn't tell him to have a short arm action,
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I didn't tell him to be long and in tell him anything. I just
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said catch the ball, get rid of it as quickly as you can,
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and throw the guy out a second base. And literally within the first throw
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he was like this. He has an outside ninety issue, so when he
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lands, he's typically about here. He caught it foot landed and he was
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literally right in this position. And then we blended it into regular mount throws
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right after, and it was much better. Now, it's not something that's
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going to stick immediately. You got to do this over a long period of
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time like most things. But it's amazing when you create the right environment of
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the rights real how quickly guys can at least feel the way it should be
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and now they know when they get off track what they need to do to
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get back. Yeah, that was going to be My question was that before
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we end this is all right, So if you have a drill that's getting
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you into the right positions, like, how long would you stick with that
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drill for it to actually stick? Or is that again very dependent? Yeah
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you're saying like if I'm doing it really well in the drill setting, but
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it's just not transferring to the game, Yes, yeah, how long would
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you just keep drilling that drill until it like starts a show in the on
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the mound? Or I would say you got to you got to make a
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progression at some point, Like everything is a progression, right, Like if
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the first thing I do is I'm on one knee, I'm in a ninety
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ninety position because that is like the most constrained position I can be in,
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and I'm able to do that. Well, awesome, Okay, I'm ready
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to move on to the next step. Let's stand up. Now do the
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same exact thing. Okay, I'm still good. Now let's be constrained,
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but now I'm going to do it more of a full arm action. Okay,
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still good. Now we move on to doing a roll in with a
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constrained position. Okay, good. And maybe the next step I do another
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drilling more progression and it's not working quite well. Okay when you spend a
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little bit more time on the one prior to that. So I think it's
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like, if the drill you're doing is great, but it's not transferring to
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the mound, you need to find something else in between that's going to help
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blend that a little bit. So you got to find what that next progression
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is. What is something that's going to make it a little bit more challenging
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and a little bit more similar to your regular delivery. And if you feel
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like you're at the end, like this is the last progression, I'm literally
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doing the exact same thing as my delivery, but it's just with appliable.
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Maybe you got to do all your drills with the baseball because the baseball feeling
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is the last thing to change. So that would be my advice is like,
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find as many progressions as you can to get as close as you can
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to the delivery, and then, like I said just a few minutes ago,
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blending your drills to a regular throw is a great way to feel it
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as well. Do the drill and then immediately do a regular throw right after
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it. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, on lend a lot. I
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think, uh even on listening would have blend a lot as well. I
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know that mechanics isn't really my expertise, so I like listening to all of
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that. Is there anything else that we should touch on? I think that's
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good, But I think for you you have you have a better understanding than
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you think you do, Like it doesn't have to be overcomplicated, especially as
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a player, Like if you get too over complicated, you're probably in trouble.
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Mm hmmmm h Yeah, And that's exactly you know. I'm kind of
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scared of like going into the rabbit hole mechanics, Like it's probably okay right
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now because I'm not playing anymore, but especially as a player, like I
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didn't really want to get into the needy, gritty and even now, like
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it just feels like there's just so much to learn that it's a little bit
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activitating. It's never ending, dude, like there's there's always something new to
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learn it. Yeah, so but that was good. That was really good.
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I learned a lot. Awesome. Yeah, this is great