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Spiritual Laws Explained (Karma, Afterlife & Purpose) with Hans Wilhelm | Life Explained · Willow Healing Matters Podcast

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  welcome to willow healing matters the podcast we are so excited
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  to have you joining
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  us on this journey where we explore different ways to empower
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  your soul whether
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  it's healing in your kitchen or all the way up in the corporate
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  world come with us
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  SPEAKER_01: as we look into different ways to heal your mind body and soul
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  hey everyone it's katherine cristani with another episode of
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  willow healing matters
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  and today i am joined by hans wilhelm he is a mystic author and
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  illustrator of over
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  200 books for all ages including some together with byron cade
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  his books have sold
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  over 40 million copies and are translated into 30 languages for
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  more than 13 years
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  SPEAKER_01: hans has created over 170 short youtube videos in which he
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  SPEAKER_01: Visually explains the spiritual laws of the universe.
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  SPEAKER_01: In these videos,
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  you can watch him drawing the dynamics of these laws and see
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  how all the dots
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  SPEAKER_01: connect.
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  This absolutely unique visual representation has made his
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  videos so successful that
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  SPEAKER_01: they have been watched a
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  20 million viewers the videos are also available for free on
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  www.lifeexplained.com
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  and we'll make sure to pop those details in the show notes han
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  says that his wish
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  is to inspire viewers to explore spirituality and to look at
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  the bigger pictures
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  perspective of their life when we see how everything fits
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  together and there are no
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  mistakes we will begin to grasp perfection and the love that is
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  the foundation of
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  SPEAKER_01: everything so a big welcome to the show han's
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Catherine.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm delighted to be on your show.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nice to meet you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm happy to talk to you.
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  SPEAKER_01: 200 books.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  What inspired you to start writing and how did you first learn
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  or start to learn
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  SPEAKER_01: about the spirit laws?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, my writing is mostly for children.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have done for the last 30 years or even more,
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  SPEAKER_02: 40 years,
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  SPEAKER_02: I've been writing and illustrating mostly for children around the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's a different market altogether.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's not my spiritual interest.
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  It's usually books about children and young children,
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  babies and toddlers and so on.
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  So that added up very quickly to 200 because I enjoyed doing it
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  and I've done it
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  SPEAKER_02: for many,
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  SPEAKER_02: many years.
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  But then certain things happened in my life where it suddenly
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  was sort of suggested
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  to me to bring out what I have learned over the years on the
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  spiritual path.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because I've been a spiritual,
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  social student for 60 years by now and have learned a lot of
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  different paths.
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  SPEAKER_02: And over the last 40 years,
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  SPEAKER_02: I have discovered,
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  SPEAKER_02: 40 years ago,
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  SPEAKER_02: I discovered a path which came through a woman in Germany.
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  And she has given such a detailed spiritual explanation about
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  everything that I was blown away.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it didn't match anything what I've learned before.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it did match in some ways, but it was so new.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was so much deeper and so much clearer.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was in today's language.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was a student of Edgar Cayce for many years.
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  SPEAKER_02: Edgar Cayce is very difficult to read.
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  And so is Rudolf Steiner and some other guys,
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  which have written 100 years ago their books.
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  SPEAKER_02: But today it's in today's language.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I loved the material.
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  I learned how to apply the various spiritual laws in my life,
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  and I saw the changes.
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  And I have now made these little short videos in which I
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  basically visually show
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  SPEAKER_02: and use how,
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  SPEAKER_02: for instance,
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  SPEAKER_02: the law of karma works.
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  Somebody hits somebody and that gets registered in the stars
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  and so on and
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  SPEAKER_02: eventually an Akashic record and comes back to the sender,
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  SPEAKER_02: et cetera.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's how the law of karma works.
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  But when you see it visually,
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  it becomes much clearer than we would just talk about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: So my idea was to share these things.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a teacher.
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  SPEAKER_02: I merely share what I understand at the moment.
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  SPEAKER_02: And anybody who likes it is fine.
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  SPEAKER_02: And those who do not like it or can't work it, that's fine too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have zero interest to convince anybody that what I understand is true.
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  It is true for me and it may be true for someone else because I
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  just let your heart guide you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whatever your heart tells you,
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  SPEAKER_02: whether this,
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  SPEAKER_02: what I share in my videos or in our conversation here,
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  SPEAKER_02: works for you or not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love to say, take what resonates, compost the rest.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  But I love that you're taking that visual aspect because I read
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  the Kybalion,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So for anyone who's not sure what that is,
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  SPEAKER_01: like it's written very,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's very hard to get your head around.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very difficult.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they are the spiritual laws, the seven spiritual hermetic principles.
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  SPEAKER_01: But at the same time,
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  I had to read it and reread it because you get lost in the
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  wording,
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  exactly like you said.
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  But to have that visual representation,
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  it just adds that extra level of understanding,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_02: I agree.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it helps me.
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  SPEAKER_02: When I draw it out, it says, oh, this makes total sense.
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  And I've been doing it now for about 14 years or whatever,
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  all these videos.
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  SPEAKER_02: And every time it makes more and more sense to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I didn't find any contradiction.
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  SPEAKER_02: Imagine that it's a pathway.
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  SPEAKER_02: You learn every day something new.
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  SPEAKER_02: And everything fits together.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm really very touched by the depth of the material.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you see all the blue books here in the back here.
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  SPEAKER_02: These are all revelations which came through Gabriele,
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  SPEAKER_02: the name of the woman in Germany,
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  SPEAKER_02: over the last 50 years.
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  SPEAKER_02: She has been giving us this material.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's really amazing stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I love it and I'm happy to share it.
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  So what has been one of the breakthroughs you've had in your
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  life from putting
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  SPEAKER_01: these spiritual laws into a visual so you understand them,
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  SPEAKER_01: but also so you can share it to everybody else?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I wasn't going to share my spiritual path with anybody else.
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  SPEAKER_02: I thought it was very private.
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  I don't like anybody knocking at my door and trying to get me
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  to become a Jehovah
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  SPEAKER_02: Witness or anything like this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to be told what I have to believe.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to explore it myself.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it was the following.
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  It was when my father died,
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  and he was in the last few days,
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  and he was not an atheist.
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  He believed there was a God everywhere,
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  but he believed that after death it would be over.
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  SPEAKER_02: He was a soldier in the Second World War,
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  SPEAKER_02: and he had seen so much death,
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  SPEAKER_02: and he says,
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  SPEAKER_02: once I'm dead,
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  SPEAKER_02: it's over.
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  So just before he died,
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  I told him,
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  look,
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  just in case,
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  you may still be around after death.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let me tell you something,
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  ten things which probably will take place so that you're not
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  surprised on the other
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  SPEAKER_02: side.
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  So he smiled a little bit,
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  and then a few days later he died,
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  not responding.
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  SPEAKER_02: He couldn't talk anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I totally forgot about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was five years later,
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  SPEAKER_02: when I was in a bookstore,
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  SPEAKER_02: some stranger,
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  SPEAKER_02: young gentleman,
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  SPEAKER_02: came up to me and said,
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  SPEAKER_02: excuse me,
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  SPEAKER_02: my name is Roland Comtoy.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm a medium.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when you entered the bookstore,
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  SPEAKER_02: your father came to me right away and says,
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  SPEAKER_02: go to this man and tell him to thank him for what he told me.
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  Everything what I told him was right,
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  and it helped him so much on the other side.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then he says,
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  he is now working at the moment at the receiving end of souls
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  which have died.
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  And he sees the continuous confusion of so many souls that have
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  passed on and don't
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  SPEAKER_02: know what happens to them where they are.
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  And he says,
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  would you please write books about what I know and share it
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  with other people?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I gave it some thought.
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  And then he taught me also some other personal stuff,
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  which I knew it was definitely my father.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I was totally surprised, but it made all sense.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I thought about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I won't make books anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've written enough books.
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  SPEAKER_02: Also, the way I want to connect with young people,
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  SPEAKER_02: And at that time, YouTube was hot.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was before TikTok.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I decided to make little short videos because attention,
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  SPEAKER_02: a span of young people or older people as well,
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  SPEAKER_02: is very short.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I made very short,
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  SPEAKER_02: short videos of five to 10,
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  SPEAKER_02: 15 minutes sometimes in which I explained different subjects,
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  SPEAKER_02: reincarnation,
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  SPEAKER_02: karma,
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  SPEAKER_02: why the purpose of life and so on.
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  And if you go on my website or if you go to YouTube and just
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  punch in my name,
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  SPEAKER_02: Hans Wilhelm,
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  SPEAKER_02: you will immediately find my channel.
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  SPEAKER_02: And all these videos are free.
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  SPEAKER_02: I do not charge anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: I also don't sell anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just do this as something to share because it has been given to me.
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  So it's just sort of my way to share a little bit because life
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  has given a lot to
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  SPEAKER_02: me and I had a wonderful life.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's a little bit of weight for me to give back.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's so beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I love that,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: the universe sent you that medium to pass on that message from your dad,
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  SPEAKER_01: right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't believe in coincidences.
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  SPEAKER_01: I believe in synchronicities.
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  SPEAKER_02: That was not an accident.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it had to happen.
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  So that's the reason why I finally came out of the closet of my
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  spirituality and
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  SPEAKER_02: said,
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  SPEAKER_02: all right,
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to share this now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the response was overwhelming.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And I feel that's such a beautiful way that you've done that
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  because so often
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  SPEAKER_01: people do,
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  SPEAKER_01: like they'll push books to the side because they're like,
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  SPEAKER_01: oh,
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  SPEAKER_01: we don't have time or I don't have the space or I don't like readings.
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  Whereas because you've created these shorts on YouTube and I so
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  agree with you,
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  SPEAKER_01: people don't have the attention span.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know for me on my YouTube,
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  SPEAKER_01: most of my shorts have like hundreds of views versus my episodes,
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  SPEAKER_01: which have like a handful because they're longer.
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  But I was like,
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  as long as the message is getting through somehow,
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  that's fine.
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  SPEAKER_01: It never works.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's our ego is easily impressed by numbers.
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  SPEAKER_02: You want to reach a thousand people and so on, but it's only our ego.
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  SPEAKER_02: Our higher self says you don't have to reach a thousand.
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  If you reach one person only and change their life a little bit
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  for the better,
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  SPEAKER_02: that's all you have to do.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's all your purpose here on life.
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  And I found this very empowering and very helpful when
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  sometimes those YouTube
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  SPEAKER_02: numbers are pretty low.
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  It says,
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  all right,
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  hopefully there's one person who has benefited from it.
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  SPEAKER_02: But our ego easily wants to have the high numbers.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's the mistake.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because then we also start selling out to whatever our ego leads us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, 100%.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's really interesting you bring that up.
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  SPEAKER_01: So these people put together these amazing events.
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  SPEAKER_01: And...
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  SPEAKER_01: They only had two people show up, but they thought, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've put all our all into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've had two people show up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's wow them and let's do what we need to do.
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  One of those two people was so heavily connected that their
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  business exploded the
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  SPEAKER_01: next week because they showed up how they were.
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  SPEAKER_01: They showed up and went, you know, I'm going to do it anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: And like you said,
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  SPEAKER_01: whether you touch one person or a thousand people's hearts,
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  SPEAKER_01: whatever it is that you need to do to cause that shift,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's such a powerful impact.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't know who's in the room.
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  You don't know who's on the other side and you don't know who
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  you're always talking
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  SPEAKER_01: to or how connected they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: So why not show up 100% as yourself and give your all if you can?
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  Yeah,
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  I'm reminding myself always of a wonderful story which was
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  written by Dolores Cannon.
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  SPEAKER_02: She had lots of people, of course, speaking to her.
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  SPEAKER_02: She did past life regression.
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  And the one story which I always remember was about this
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  businessman who came back
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  SPEAKER_02: and says,
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  SPEAKER_02: when he came up to heaven,
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  SPEAKER_02: so to speak,
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  And there was the group of spirit beings who asked him,
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  now,
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  look at your life.
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  SPEAKER_02: What have you done?
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  SPEAKER_02: And he looked and says, well, did you do anything?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, he says, yeah, I gave a lot of charity.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was during the depression.
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  SPEAKER_02: I tried to keep my business going.
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  SPEAKER_02: I tried everybody to keep their work and so on.
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  SPEAKER_02: And basically, he felt he did a good job.
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  And they all smiled and said,
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  oh,
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  that's not the main reason for what you did.
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  And he gave a lot of other things and so on,
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  what he did,
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  what he thought was good and so on.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then finally somebody says, remember the bus stop?
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  SPEAKER_02: And he said, bus stop?
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  SPEAKER_02: I never drove a bus.
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  SPEAKER_02: I always walked from my house to work and I've never been in a bus stop.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just think again.
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  And then slowly the story came that he remembered one day
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  walking to his factory.
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  SPEAKER_02: He was passing a bus stop and there was a woman sitting in there crying.
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  And he just stopped and sat next to the woman and hold her in
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  her arm for a little
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  SPEAKER_02: while,
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  SPEAKER_02: not this dialogue,
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  SPEAKER_02: just asking,
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  SPEAKER_02: just holding her and be with her.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then the bus came and the woman went onto the bus and he moved on.
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  SPEAKER_02: This moment was the most important moment of your life.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the reason why you incarnated.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we mustn't forget it,
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  SPEAKER_02: Gabriel says it also,
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  SPEAKER_02: sometimes we only incarnate to give one single smile to another person.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's all why we take it on ourselves to incarnate.
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  It's our ego who wants all these big things,
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  but our heart has got very different goals.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's so beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's so true.
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  Like I was in a hardware shop near my house and I just smiled
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  at this person
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  SPEAKER_01: because I smile at people because you never know what's going on.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I genuinely like to smile.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this person actually came up to me and she said,
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  SPEAKER_01: thank you for the first genuine smile I've had all day.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh.
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  I don't know what to do with this situation because I wasn't
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  expecting this.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they said, oh, I just smile at people because I never know.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she said, keep doing that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then she walked on.
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  And,
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  you know,
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  I always talk about you never know how you could land on
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  people's lives,
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  right?
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  You never know the impact of that smile or holding the elevator
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  door or holding a
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  SPEAKER_01: door open for somebody or waving someone into traffic.
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  SPEAKER_01: You never know.
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  SPEAKER_01: the follow-on repercussions of how that can change or shift their day.
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  SPEAKER_02: It truly does.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's another wonderful story.
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  SPEAKER_02: I forgot who it was.
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  SPEAKER_02: She was also a young girl, teenager, wanted to commit suicide.
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  SPEAKER_02: And she planned it very carefully.
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  SPEAKER_02: On a certain day, she was going to commit suicide.
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  SPEAKER_02: She was very, very, very depressed.
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  SPEAKER_02: And on that one day, she went to school.
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  SPEAKER_02: And after school, she went home to commit suicide.
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  SPEAKER_02: She was absolutely certain.
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  SPEAKER_02: And she crossed the road
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  SPEAKER_02: And as she was on the road,
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  SPEAKER_02: suddenly an SUV came and broke very close to her and got into brakes.
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  And she looked up and there she saw a woman driver giving her
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  the broadest and warmest smile.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: And that went right through her so much.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: that everything shifted.
• 13:49
  And as you said,
• 13:50
  she just apparently did not do the commit of the suicide after
• 13:53
  that.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: It was this one smile.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: And what you're doing is just the perfect way.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: I wish we all could do that.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: I wish I remind myself to be too much smiling.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: My husband and I play this game.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds funny.
• 14:04
  But when we go for walks,
• 14:06
  we'll see how many people will smile and wave back.
• 14:09
  because we're like you know let's actually say hello to people
• 14:12
  and see what happens
• 14:13
  and it's amazing how many people don't know what to do with it
• 14:16
  they don't know how
• 14:17
  to respond it's like we've forgotten how to have a connection
• 14:21
  and we've forgotten
• 14:22
  how to connect with other people we've just let it go yeah and
• 14:26
  the shop i was
• 14:27
  recently shop buying something and a lovely lady with two kids
• 14:29
  came out of the shop
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: and she smiled to me hello how you doing
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_02: And the first thing is, oh, my God, who is this lady?
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: Do I know?
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: I just felt that my memory lost me.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: Who is she?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: I said, oh, I don't know.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to say hello.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: But I immediately thought, oh, my God, here my memory is going.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know where to put her.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: But she gave me a smile.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, that can happen too.
• 14:54
  Well,
• 14:55
  it's interesting because I do a lot of psychic work and things
• 14:59
  like that.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I get the same people call up.
• 15:03
  And I'll remember them because spirit will give me the memory
• 15:05
  so I can piece
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: together their story better.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, and they get really unnerved that I remember them.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: And even my husband, he's currently driving taxis.
• 15:15
  And he'll say that when a passenger gets in and he asks them
• 15:18
  how they were going or
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: how they went with whatever they spoke about last time,
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: they get really uncomfortable.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, well, but you shared something.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Why are you uncomfortable with having someone remember you?
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Why is that?
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:32
  And then you go into that deeper kind of,
• 15:34
  wow,
• 15:35
  that's,
• 15:35
  that's really weird.
• 15:36
  And my husband said it happens all the time because he's got a
• 15:38
  good memory.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: And if it's interesting, he'll remember it.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, and people don't know what to do with that connection too.
• 15:45
  And sometimes they'll share more with a stranger than they will
• 15:49
  with someone that
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: they think they're going to see as well.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: Because so many people are lonely.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's a major problem.
• 15:55
  That's why they talk to somebody like a taxi driver or on a
• 15:58
  phone and so on because
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: they are basically lonely,
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: have nobody to share anything.
• 16:02
  Loneliness,
• 16:02
  I think,
• 16:03
  is one of the major problems at the moment in the world.
• 16:06
  It's so interesting because this is what I'm sharing in my life
• 16:10
  at the moment about loneliness.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: The moment.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I actually share that loneliness isn't a bad thing.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's just an invitation to get to know yourself more.
• 16:22
  And it's when we're afraid to be alone with ourselves that
• 16:26
  that's where the issues
• 16:28
  start to arise because we make choices out of loneliness rather
• 16:32
  than facing
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: ourselves.
• 16:34
  I just gave an interview of somebody who is of a network which
• 16:38
  works for prisons only.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember there was a Rumi quote, which I now have not heard.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just something like saying,
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: I have taken everyone away from you so you are alone,
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: so I can be alone with you.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: This is what God says.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: I've taken everyone away from you so I can be alone with you.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: Basically what you say,
• 16:55
  it is our opportunity to go within and connect to the only
• 16:59
  permanent presence we
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: always have.
• 17:02
  which is divinity,
• 17:03
  whether we call it Christ,
• 17:04
  God,
• 17:05
  or even our guardian spirit.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: We are never alone, ever.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's impossible in life to be alone.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: And if we connect with any of these three or all three together,
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: we can have a great conversation.
• 17:16
  I know for myself,
• 17:17
  because once I am in communicating with them,
• 17:20
  I learn a lot.
• 17:21
  I 100% I so agree I actually value my alone time because I can
• 17:26
  just be me and just
• 17:28
  not have to you know worry because I'm a mom I don't have to
• 17:31
  worry about my child I
• 17:32
  can just have that moment and connect where I need to connect
• 17:36
  and once a few years
• 17:37
  ago I was like why don't I have any long-lasting friends and so
• 17:42
  I was in this group
• 17:43
  and I actually asked her and she channeled through this message
• 17:45
  and she said
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: sometimes we
• 17:47
  We're not meant to have deep anchors and connections because
• 17:51
  we're not meant to
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: stay where we are.
• 17:52
  And if you were really rooted and connected with that many
• 17:56
  people in that place,
• 17:58
  you won't get to do what you need to do so your soul can move
• 18:01
  on to the next level.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it's interesting because where I live now, we're ready to leave.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Spirit has other plans.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: We're still here.
• 18:08
  I understand why,
• 18:09
  but all my connections and my friends are moving out of the
• 18:13
  area too.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, the other day I was like, oh my goodness.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I was sad.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I was genuinely sad.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I just was allowed myself to be sad.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then I went, hang on a minute.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm moving out.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: So why am I sad that all these other people are moving out?
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because we all need to move on.
• 18:30
  You know,
• 18:30
  it was just having that moment,
• 18:32
  but and allowing that vulnerability to come through.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: And remembering those words,
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: which I'd forgotten until I was just talking to you,
• 18:40
  which is sometimes we're not meant to anchor ourselves in
• 18:42
  places because we need to
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: move to the next place.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, very good.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: But you used the word, I cherish my alone time.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: Once you understand alone, it's not loneliness.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's two different things.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: Loneliness is our mind interpreting the situation and feeling isolated.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: But alone is something we welcome.
• 19:02
  It's the same thing,
• 19:04
  but it's just our mind makes us trick from one to the other.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: When we change it from loneliness to be alone time, everything is fine.
• 19:12
  I just had this image of you creating this into a little
• 19:14
  YouTube short with like...
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: I do have a video on loneliness.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I do have one on loneliness.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I was being shown.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 19:23
  What have you found with your shares that was one of the
• 19:27
  spiritual laws that made
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: more sense when you drew it?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a particular one that stands out?
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's the overall situation about why we are here,
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: the law of karma,
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: and the law,
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: of course,
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: in effect.
• 19:43
  I think the most important thing which I did never really find
• 19:47
  in the other path is
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: the fact that I am a pure,
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: perfect spirit being originally,
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: which means I have,
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: like the rest of us,
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: fallen into materialism and negativity in a way,
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: but I am at the essence a pure being.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: a loving being as an asset.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's not that I have to grow slowly from,
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: let's say,
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: from a toad to an animal,
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: et cetera,
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: to a monkey,
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: to human beings,
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: eventually become an angel.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, I have been what we may call an angel.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I've fallen into it.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: In other words, I don't have to learn anything.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: I have just to remember everything.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: And it's much easier when I say, I've been there.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: I can go back there.
• 20:25
  It's much different than it says,
• 20:26
  I want to have reached all this mountain there.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: I've never been there.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: Will I ever make it?
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I will make it because I've been there.
• 20:32
  So that gave me a lot of confidence that I am walking on my way
• 20:37
  back home.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I think everybody else is doing the same thing.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: We are all together bringing us home.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: So beautiful.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I love that you've already done that.
• 20:49
  So,
• 20:49
  you know,
• 20:50
  my other favorite is saying,
• 20:52
  what's the worst that can happen?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, what's the worst that can happen?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, when I started my podcast,
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: people were like, Hey, how'd you get this guest?
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: I asked like it was, and they said, what do you mean?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: I said,
• 21:07
  I just sent an email and I asked the worst that could happen is
• 21:10
  they said,
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: no,
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: thank you.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Or I got no response.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: So what's, what's the difference?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if, if they, if it aligned, they said yes.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I did get a lot of no's,
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: at the start and that's okay too,
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: because,
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: um,
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: I used to have a coach and he said,
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: see how many no's you can get,
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: because then when you get a yes,
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: it'll feel amazing.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can do that too.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, this is the thing.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: And even sometimes,
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: I have a lot of clients and for myself where I say,
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: well,
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: play out the worst case scenario.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: What is the worst thing that can happen?
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: And then you've already imagined that.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: And then what's the best that can happen?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: And if something happens in the middle,
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: everything feels great because you're not doing the worst case scenario.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so this is what I would go one step further.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: What is the worst thing that can happen?
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: Give me three reasons why this is the best thing.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: What is the good thing out of the worst situation?
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: What are the three positive things which can come out of it?
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: Immediately the negativity disappears when we try to find,
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: because even a killing,
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: a murder,
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: a loss of job,
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: a loss of partner,
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: all these things have positive elements in it.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: All of them.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: You have to find a blessing.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: Everything has a God spark in it.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: God is like the canvas about everything on which everything is painted.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: And if we go to the canvas,
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: if we go to the essence of every situation,
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: the essence is always divinity.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: And if we find the divinity in the loss of a job,
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: because it may bring us to another job,
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: a loss of a partner,
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: maybe bring us to another partner,
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: or maybe we have to be alone for a while.
• 22:46
  It's all these negative situations we can imagine in our mind,
• 22:50
  our ego's mind,
• 22:52
  actually have a positive side,
• 22:53
  this silver lining basically around the cloud.
• 22:57
  And when we focus on that one and we ask,
• 22:59
  how can I benefit from that one?
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: The negativity usually dissipates.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is beautiful.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's like finding the blessing in the unforgivable as well.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of the time we go through these situations in life and people go,
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: I can never forgive them.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: Then you're just disempowering your life.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: If you can't find the forgiveness or find the good in that,
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: then you're stopping you from expanding, not them.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like, or the situation, or the event, or whatever it was.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you're giving their power still to them.
• 23:32
  This is why we've been so conditioned to believe that you
• 23:34
  forgive and forget,
• 23:35
  right?
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: But it's like, no, you forgive to take your power back.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Forgiveness we give to ourselves,
• 23:43
  and it's always the old-fashioned forgiveness.
• 23:45
  If you've done something wrong and I will forgive you,
• 23:49
  I put myself above you.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's my ego.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_02: The whole forgiveness, as we are taught, is ego stuff.
• 23:54
  And to understand that the other person has never harmed me in
• 23:57
  the first place,
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: then I come from a very different level.
• 24:01
  And I explained it in my video that radical forgiveness is the
• 24:06
  idea to really
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: understand that the other person has never done anything harmful to me.
• 24:10
  He has only helped me further on my evolution,
• 24:13
  whatever I had to go to understand that.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: Even if it's a painful situation,
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: a horrible situation,
• 24:18
  but it is there what I needed to experience because that was
• 24:21
  helping me for my next
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: level.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:24
  And then when you can find the blessing through that and see
• 24:27
  the gift that it gave
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: you,
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: and like you touched upon earlier,
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: yes,
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: you lost your job,
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: but it allowed you to go into the new one,
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 24:35
  and so often I have clients come in and we talk about what they
• 24:39
  need to let go of
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: because it's not serving them anymore.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: And then as soon as they do that,
• 24:45
  They'll get their dream opportunity or their dream partner or
• 24:48
  their dream place to
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: live or whatever it is,
• 24:51
  but they have to let go of something first in order for it to
• 24:54
  allow that to come in
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: because energy is not created or destroyed.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's only transferred.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: And we just think we can keep opening up more and more and more.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like,
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: actually,
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: no,
• 25:03
  you have to let something be destroyed first and then it can
• 25:07
  recreate something
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: new,
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: like the phoenix.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely right.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: And the other question I have is,
• 25:16
  when you stepped more into your spiritual aspect and
• 25:19
  understanding death on the
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: other side,
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: what was something profound that came through?
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: What I told him?
• 25:27
  Well,
• 25:27
  first of all,
• 25:28
  imagine somebody who doesn't believe that life continues.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: First of all, it says, number one is there is no death.
• 25:36
  This is only a transition from the physical body and the soul
• 25:38
  leaves the physical body.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: But you still have a body.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's an astral body, an ethereal body, similar like the present body.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_02: So that's something new to us to understand.
• 25:49
  In this new kind of appearance you are there,
• 25:54
  you also can't hide anything.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: Basically, you show who you are.
• 25:57
  You're also unfortunately taking all your vices,
• 26:00
  your ego and so on still with you.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't die with the body.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: So if you are a nasty person in this life,
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: you probably are a nasty person on the other side too.
• 26:08
  But most of us will be meeting our spirit guide and also maybe
• 26:12
  loved ones who have
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: died before and even pets to welcome us,
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_02: which is probably,
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: I would say,
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: the majority.
• 26:17
  But that doesn't mean that we necessarily can see them if we
• 26:20
  don't want to see
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_02: them,
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_02: if we do not believe in them.
• 26:23
  I'm just making a new video on this one as well,
• 26:26
  on all the ghosts among us.
• 26:28
  These are basically spirit beings who have not accepted that
• 26:31
  they are dead.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: And become earthbound and walk amongst us.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: And these are millions and millions of souls who are among us,
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: bound here to planet Earth because they still haven't accepted life.
• 26:43
  I mean,
• 26:43
  the best movie on this one is The Sixth Sense,
• 26:46
  which basically shows it marvelously.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: So there are a lot of these things.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I mentioned in a way, yeah, they're great.
• 26:52
  Basically what I say,
• 26:54
  just allow yourself to be guided by your guardian spirit.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: And there's a lot of stuff now on the internet.
• 27:00
  This was before my father,
• 27:02
  but recently,
• 27:03
  don't go into the light,
• 27:05
  which is a trap and whatever.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_02: You probably heard that too.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: But definitely go into the light.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: Go into where the angels want you to go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Embrace it.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: Don't be a fool because who would not do that?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: And besides, I also don't think you have much choice there.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_02: You will be drawn.
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  If you listen to the many NDEs and near-death experiences,
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  they don't have a choice.
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  SPEAKER_02: Shall I go to the light?
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: Shall I not go?
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: They are drawn to the light.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: This light is so inviting.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: It is so loving.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: It is so powerful that I think we don't have much choice anyway.
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  So surrender to the light and surrender to your guardian spirit
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  who will take you
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: exactly where you need to be next.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: These are just a few of these things which I probably mentioned to him,
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: and this was totally new to him,
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_02: and he wouldn't.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: He says, this is sort of my voodoo stuff, but not for him.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: But when he was on the other side, he probably saw exactly as I told him.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because these are not secrets.
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  SPEAKER_02: Any spiritual past says that.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is not only from Gabriela.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anyone knows that, who knows about life after death.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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  and I find a lot of the time it's religion puts these
• 28:07
  constraints on what we
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: believe will happen once we pass.
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  Because I've had souls show up at my house who were the
• 28:14
  earthbound and stuck.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I just need to have and I literally open a portal,
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Hans,
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: of light so they can go home.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's literally what I do.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I and but sometimes they're really stubborn about it.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes they actually leave their inner child behind.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's so interesting.
• 28:33
  So I have to then reconnect them with their inner child because
• 28:36
  they've lost their
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: childhood innocence.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: So they need to reconnect with that.
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  But what's really interesting was I was working with this
• 28:43
  client and he actually
• 28:44
  passed and his wife contacted me because that's how I started
• 28:48
  working with him.
• 28:49
  And she said,
• 28:50
  the family is saying if we don't get rid of all the belongings,
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: then he won't move on.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm trapping him.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so they had young kids and everything.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: I said, no, that's not true.
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  SPEAKER_01: I said, he's here right now.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: He's just shaking his head.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, keep it.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: Keep my shirt.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, keep, keep, keep it.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and she's like, really?
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: And she goes, I really wish he was with me.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, he is with you right now.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like he is with you right now.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like he's, he's there for you and the kids.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like he is there.
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  And,
• 29:20
  you know,
• 29:20
  sometimes from everything that I've learned from people that
• 29:23
  have come
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: who have passed over and come forward.
• 29:26
  It's amazing how many are there just to go,
• 29:29
  hey,
• 29:29
  can you tell my loved one this?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: Or can you pass this on?
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: Because there's just something unfinished that they need to get across.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: Or like you said,
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: they're the other end where if they die,
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: I find if they've passed dramatically,
• 29:43
  they don't know what to do because it's like they have so much
• 29:46
  unfinished business
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: that is often when they get stuck as well.
• 29:50
  Or they have that religion component where they're like,
• 29:53
  oh,
• 29:53
  you know,
• 29:53
  I did so much bad stuff.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: I can't go there.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go to hell.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: I personally don't believe in hell.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think hell is what we create.
• 29:59
  This is what we put in ourselves because we are all made of
• 30:03
  God,
• 30:04
  like the essence of God.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to go back to God, you know, whatever way that looks like.
• 30:07
  Exactly like you said,
• 30:08
  if you're bad,
• 30:09
  yeah,
• 30:09
  you've got to carry that karma on.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's your choice how your soul
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: But we've all got darkness in it.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: We've all got light.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's just finding that balance between the two.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_02: Was the client of yours, was she Hindu?
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: The family was, yes.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: The family was.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: She was.
• 30:27
  Particularly the undergarments have to be burned because of the
• 30:30
  vibration.
• 30:31
  Yes,
• 30:32
  that's why when you mention it,
• 30:33
  it says this is a typical Hindu belief.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: So, of course, there is energy which can pull the soul and hold it back.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: But I don't think the clothing is much of that.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's a true necessity to bind its soul here to planet Earth.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: But it is.
• 30:46
  And I think I would still be careful wearing other people's
• 30:51
  clothes and so on
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: because of the energy.
• 30:54
  So,
• 30:54
  yes,
• 30:54
  for that reason,
• 30:55
  I would say,
• 30:56
  well,
• 30:57
  wash it well if anybody else.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: Sage it.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, sage it.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: But that's another reason.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: But not because you hold the soul trapped.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:06
  And it's interesting you bring that up because so often people
• 31:09
  forget that if you
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: go to an antique store or a vintage store,
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: or even if you inherit something,
• 31:15
  you need to clear the energy of it because sometimes it doesn't
• 31:19
  belong in your
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: house and sometimes it doesn't belong.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: I put a video on that one.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: The danger of touch.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know because we were in a,
• 31:30
  like a shop and it had some things that had been restored and
• 31:33
  some older things.
• 31:34
  And my husband picked up like this old,
• 31:37
  like kind of saw because he likes old tools and a drill.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I said,
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: That drill has really bad karma.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: You need to clear that.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: You can buy it, but you need to clear that.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, really?
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: I would have thought it was the saw.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: I said, no, the saw is fine.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: I said, but that drill?
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so we did.
• 31:55
  He brought it home and he like full-saged it and he put it in
• 31:57
  the sun and he put
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: crystals around.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: He just had to reset the energy of it because we forget that.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: And me personally, I cannot walk into an op shop and buy things.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: I find it incredibly annoying.
• 32:10
  difficult sometimes I'll go in there with my son and we'll get
• 32:13
  books or things like
• 32:14
  that and I'll sage them and everything when we take them home
• 32:17
  but I find it really
• 32:18
  difficult to buy other people's clothing and at first I thought
• 32:21
  it was my ego going
• 32:22
  oh you're just being a snob and I'm like no it's because I'm so
• 32:25
  sensitive to energy
• 32:26
  I cannot do that you know I can't I can't take that so even my
• 32:30
  sister used to
• 32:31
  borrow my clothes when I was younger and I'd get really angry
• 32:34
  and I thought it was
• 32:35
  because she was taking my clothes but I realized it was because
• 32:37
  then I would get
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: the clothes back and it would have her energy
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, most of us don't know that.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's a very powerful thing.
• 32:46
  Everything is vibration and everything we touch and everything
• 32:50
  has got the
• 32:51
  vibration of the inventor even in this whole thing or whatever
• 32:54
  object we hold in
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: our hand.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, be careful what we touch.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: And as we start to finish our time together,
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: Hans,
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: I ask the guests that come on the show,
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: if you could heal or change something in the world,
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: what would it be?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: if I could heal or change anything in the world,
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: to understand that,
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think,
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: I wish everybody would understand who they are,
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: that they are actually love,
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: and that's our true essence of who we are,
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: and if we really understand that this is,
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_02: that we are love,
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: probably wouldn't harm other people and ourselves so much.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: I think the essence to know who they are,
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: I think that would be probably the best way for people to recognize,
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: wow,
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: I am love.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: What does it mean?
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: Unconditional, totally unlimited, all-inclusive love.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: I think that is something very powerful.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: And if we think this is my essence of who I am, I can take anything on.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 33:49
  And if people want to find your videos or connect with you or
• 33:54
  come and find all
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: your books,
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: where's the best place that they can go?
• 33:57
  Well,
• 33:58
  they can go to hanswilliam.com or they go to the YouTube
• 34:02
  channel and put in Hans Willem.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: You'll find my channel there.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: All the videos are also on a special website called lifeexplained.com.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 34:10
  And I'll make sure to definitely include all those details in
• 34:13
  the show notes.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you,
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: Hans,
• 34:15
  for sharing and bringing your beautiful visualizations of
• 34:19
  spiritual laws into the
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: world and all the spiritual teachings that you've gone through as well.
• 34:24
  And for anyone listening,
• 34:26
  if you enjoyed this,
• 34:26
  please connect and follow Hans on YouTube and go
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_01: go be curious and go learn some more about life.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: And also, if you like this, please like, share or subscribe.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: I always love to hear feedback too.
• 34:37
  If there's any episodes you would like to see,
• 34:40
  or I will go find that guest.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to do that.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much, Hans.
• 34:44
  I really appreciated our conversation and I appreciate the work
• 34:47
  that you're doing as well.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: And from here, much love to Australia.
• 34:52
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• 34:58
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• 35:02
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• 35:02
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  fantasy and reality
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• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Hey beautiful souls,
• 35:11
  it is Catherine Cristani here and I wanted to have a chat with
• 35:14
  you about a really
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: amazing
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Cacao that I drink to help me get in ceremony,
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: to help me ground,
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: but also just because it tastes freaking good.
• 35:23
  So if you're curious and want to know about drinking something
• 35:26
  other than coffee or
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: your standard tea,
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: why not check out Creation Cacao?
• 35:31
  I love this with a bit of honey and cinnamon sprinkled in and
• 35:36
  just letting it brew
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: and having that whole intention as you create this cup.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're curious,
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: if I want to know more,
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: check out the link in the show notes and in the bio and enjoy.
• 35:49
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• 35:52
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• 35:53
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• 35:56
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• 35:57
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• 36:01
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• 36:03
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• 36:10
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• 36:11
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