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Breonna Taylor and the Louisville Gentrification Squad (Repost) · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: We're not going to just talk about them again on
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow's episode, so we're reposting a couple of things. One
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  Speaker 1: episode about the highly underreported theory that the killing of
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  Speaker 1: Breonna Taylor in Louisville may have been tied to a
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  Speaker 1: gentrification project that was happening in the city at the time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm doing well. I've pivoted well, I think
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, i feel like I'm thriving a little bit. It's fine,
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  Speaker 1: just not. It's I'm like, we could be locked down
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  Speaker 2: a lot more energy because it's like I'm not sitting
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  Speaker 2: in LA traffic for hours anymore. I'm not, you know,
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  Speaker 2: going to do stand up shows every night, like, which
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  Speaker 2: takes a lot of energy. So you know, I get
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  Speaker 2: to focus on like internet shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Back when we were able to go places,
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  Speaker 1: like I would still try and book shows, and then
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  Speaker 1: when I would book a show, I'd be like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to do this fucking show.
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  Speaker 2: I know, what the fuck and what I'm being what
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  Speaker 2: I'm learning now is like, oh, I don't have to
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  Speaker 2: be so excessive. I mean, like I just I hate
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  Speaker 2: the rat race and the fact that the rat race
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  Speaker 2: had to be canceled a little bit, like I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, there have been worse things. I mean, coronavirus
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  Speaker 1: is a fucking tragedy and hundreds of thousands of people
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  Speaker 1: have died. But still, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, well that's the thing, is us like suffering for
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  Speaker 2: the sake of suffering, I don't know, is.
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  Speaker 1: Productive, Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like you might as well make the best
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  Speaker 2: of the situation. I mean, I wear masks, I quarantine,
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  Speaker 2: like I'm in contact with just like a limited amount
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  Speaker 2: of people physically, and then I don't know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: it sucks. I lost an uncle to it. I lost
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  Speaker 2: a friend. My friend was only thirty years old. It
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  Speaker 2: was in the Bronx when it was bad. Every one
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  Speaker 2: of my family's a frontline worker, so they've seen the
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  Speaker 2: worst of it. But it is nice to have sort
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  Speaker 2: of inside information, like frontline information.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I bet at least when it's good information,
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  Speaker 1: at least well it's.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's accurate, and I sort of you know who,
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  Speaker 2: you know how corporate news media.
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  Speaker 1: Is, do I ever?
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  Speaker 2: I just want some fucking news from the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of corporate news media, it seems like we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about coronavirus this week, but we are not. But
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  Speaker 1: we are talking about something that I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: corporate news media hasn't really latched onto too strongly. For
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  Speaker 1: one thing, we're talking about the death of Breonna Taylor, which,
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  Speaker 1: prior to George Floyd, this is an incident that was
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  Speaker 1: not getting much attention in general. So it's at least
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  Speaker 1: good that people are talking about it now, but not
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  Speaker 1: much has happened in terms of justice, and the story
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  Speaker 1: just keeps getting fucking weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's odd that, you know, it seems pretty obvious.
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  Speaker 2: You know, arrest the cops who killed Brionna Taylor. It's
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  Speaker 2: like a meme. Now they're not a meme, but like.
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  Speaker 1: A it's kind of a meme, yeah, or a.
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  Speaker 2: Catch for it. It's like, you know, it's it's something
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  Speaker 2: that people are saying a lot that phrase in it,
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  Speaker 2: and so it is odd that it's taking so long,
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  Speaker 2: and it makes you think, like, well, why is it
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  Speaker 2: taking so long? What's going on internally?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a fun thing to reply to cops
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter with. That's where I see it the most.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever any police department posts anything even sort of positive,
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  Speaker 1: someone's going to be like, all right, but arrest the
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  Speaker 1: people that killed Breonna Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna be like, yeah, I had like my spicy
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  Speaker 2: funions were delicious, So arrest the cops that killed Brionna Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have not been arrested yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, like it's I'm not surprised that
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  Speaker 2: it didn't. It caught momentum after or during the George
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  Speaker 2: Floyd thing because women, especially women of color, are so
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  Speaker 2: marginalized and just sort of swept under. So I think
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  Speaker 2: it brought police brutality in general to the forefront. And
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  Speaker 2: because her case just happened, her family was able to
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  Speaker 2: like get the word out. And then I think with
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  Speaker 2: all the civil rights stuff people were talking about, like
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  Speaker 2: intersectionality and marginalization and how like, you know, how come
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  Speaker 2: we can move swiftly, more swiftly for you know, the
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  Speaker 2: men than the women. And yeah, it doesn't I was
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  Speaker 2: just gonna say, it doesn't help that it seems like
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  Speaker 2: this case could be a lot more complicated. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, before we get into the complicating detail for people
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  Speaker 1: who aren't familiar, I figure we should just run through
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  Speaker 1: the facts in the Breonna Taylor murder. Shortly after midnight
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  Speaker 1: on March thirteenth, twenty twenty, Louisville police entered the apartment
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  Speaker 1: of Brianna Taylor and Kenneth Walker, using a battering ram
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  Speaker 1: to force the door open, and they were investigating two
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  Speaker 1: men who they suspected of selling drugs. But both of
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  Speaker 1: those men lived ten miles away from Brianna Taylor, but
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  Speaker 1: she had a previous relationship with one of them. JaMarcus Glover.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was again, this was not her current boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: This is just someone she had a passive friendship.
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  Speaker 1: With, right she apparently had been she had dated him
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  Speaker 1: at one point and now they were just friends. And
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  Speaker 1: police obtained a no knock search warrant based on the
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  Speaker 1: suggestion that Glover was receiving packages at Taylor's apartment. So
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  Speaker 1: in that detail is pretty important, but we'll get to it.
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  Speaker 1: But what happened after getting this warrant approved? They show
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  Speaker 1: up at her house after midnight, and they claim they
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  Speaker 1: entered the residents after knocking several times and announcing themselves
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  Speaker 1: as police officers. But Brianna Taylor's boyfriend disputes that. All
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  Speaker 1: of the neighbors also dispute that. And seeing how it's
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  Speaker 1: called a no knock warrant, who do you believe telling
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  Speaker 1: the truth?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like who do you trust? The cops who had
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  Speaker 1: a no knock warrant in their pocket or the neighbors
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  Speaker 1: who say they never heard them knock?
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  Speaker 2: Like of course, like they're looking for JaMarcus Glover, how
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  Speaker 2: come they don't go to his residence?
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  Speaker 1: Right? And they they did. They executed five search warrants
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  Speaker 1: in this case, and they did end up going to
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  Speaker 1: his residence, but they also went to Brionna Taylor's residence
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  Speaker 1: and only one of them died as a result of
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  Speaker 1: the police showing up.
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  Speaker 2: And these were all no knock search warrants right for
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  Speaker 2: this case.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they were all no knock search warrants. And I
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  Speaker 1: believe they have since banned no knock search warrants.
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  Speaker 2: Yes they have, which yeah, progress, Yeah, and so Kenneth
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  Speaker 2: they call it law. I think I think they call
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  Speaker 2: it Brionna's law. But you know, still no arrests have
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  Speaker 2: been made, right.
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  Speaker 1: One of the have all of the cops even lost
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  Speaker 1: their jobs?
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  Speaker 2: I think only one of them and then two have
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  Speaker 2: been reassigned.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy who I would I would consider got
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  Speaker 1: her killed has only been reassigned. I know that. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the guy who signed the warrant.
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  Speaker 2: Well, can they tell it's only one person? Because there
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  Speaker 2: was such like there were bullets coming from everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened is they they were trying to kick
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  Speaker 1: the door in, and Kenneth Walker, who is a licensed
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  Speaker 1: gun owner, shouted out who is it? And no one responded,
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  Speaker 1: so he assumed that someone was trying to break in
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  Speaker 1: his apartment, so he started shooting, and he did shoot
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  Speaker 1: first and hit a cop in the leg, and then
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  Speaker 1: the police returned fire and shot twenty times into the apartment,
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  Speaker 1: including one cop who shot through a closed window where
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  Speaker 1: the blinds were also closed too.
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  Speaker 2: It's just once it once cops are triggered to shoot.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's so excessive, it's so intense, like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I guess. And then also it's just like Kenneth was
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  Speaker 2: he wrong, like he was in theory getting his apartment
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  Speaker 2: was getting broken into by people who did not announce themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, charges against him have been dropped.
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  Speaker 2: Finally, after you know, I think you know, the this
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  Speaker 2: movement started taking place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it took a lot of public outrage for it
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  Speaker 1: to happen, but charges against him were dropped, and of
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  Speaker 1: course they should be dropped.
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  Speaker 2: Like they're dropped, but I think I read somewhere that
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  Speaker 2: they're dropped for now. They could, you know, they can reinvestigate.
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  Speaker 1: Or I think the FBI is investigating the incident, and
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  Speaker 1: they said the FBI could in theory charge him again.
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  Speaker 1: But I really can't picture that happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't be wise, it'd be I mean, it'd
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  Speaker 2: be stupid, and.
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  Speaker 1: The police always do such whyse right now smart things,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not going to stop trusting them now. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they fire twenty times, like that cop who shot through
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  Speaker 1: the closed window, there could have been a kid on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of that window. Like, how do you
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  Speaker 1: just fire indiscriminately without being able to see what you're
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  Speaker 1: shooting at. That's so crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's super reckless, especially the one coming from outside, because
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  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you're shooting through blinds, like you don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the fuck you're shooting at. And then it's
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  Speaker 2: night time so it's probably dark, and yeah, you don't know,
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  Speaker 2: and like it's an apartment building, so you could kill
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  Speaker 2: someone in another apartment.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that there haven't been any charges in this
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  Speaker 1: case at all just blows my mind.
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  Speaker 2: I Mean, my guess is because they were shot at,
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  Speaker 2: the response was to shoot back, but just the way
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  Speaker 2: it was executed was so slow because he kind of
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  Speaker 2: walker was well within his rights to defend himself against
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  Speaker 2: unannounced intruders. They were cops, they were in unmarked cars,
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  Speaker 2: they were.
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  Speaker 1: Plain clothes, didn't have they weren't even wearing police uniforms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think people who work in narcotics generally
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  Speaker 2: don't oh yeah, yeah, but again, it was sloppy. It
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  Speaker 2: was really sloppy. It was and as a result, someone,
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  Speaker 2: you know, an innocent person, was killed in her own home.
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  Speaker 1: And it gets crazier because for a couple of months,
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  Speaker 1: this Brianna Taylor's death happened, and then the George Floyd
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  Speaker 1: protests start and people start calling for justice for Brianna Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: as they should. And then just last week, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: or a couple of weeks ago, Brianna Taylor's family, well,
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  Speaker 1: I should backtrack a little. Her family filed a wrongful
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  Speaker 1: death lawsuit against the City of Louisville, and they just
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  Speaker 1: recently amended their lawsuit to make a pretty crazy claim,
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  Speaker 1: which is that her death and the warrants that were
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  Speaker 1: issued in her death were not about investigating drugs. They
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  Speaker 1: were about furthering a revitalization or gentrification plan, whatever you
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  Speaker 1: want to call it, called Vision Russell, and that's basically
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  Speaker 1: an initiative that's happening in Louisville. Some people call it revitalization,
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  Speaker 1: some people call it gentrification, probably a little bit of both.
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  Speaker 1: In the final months of the Obama administration, Louisville won
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  Speaker 1: a thirty million dollar federal grant to pay for this project.
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  Speaker 1: That's part of the budget. It's a two hundred million
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  Speaker 1: dollar budget overall, and there's a smaller project within it
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  Speaker 1: called Keeping it Real Elliott Street Redevelopment. Fucking what what
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  Speaker 1: is the keeping it real part about? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I don't know if the government if you know,
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  Speaker 2: government wants to use cute s names. Yeah, stuff, it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, I guess they're prerogative, but it is silly.
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  Speaker 1: You know, have people said keeping it real this decade?
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  Speaker 1: I think that like died in two thousand and nine.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I still keep it real, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it stands out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you can one can keep it real without
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  Speaker 1: saying it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, why are you Why are you protesting
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  Speaker 2: so much? Why you tell you why you keep talking
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  Speaker 2: about keeping it real? Are you really keeping it real?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: What are you hiding?
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  Speaker 1: I don't trust people who say they keep it real
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  Speaker 1: too much. People aren't keeping it real.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah. So that's where the death of Breonna Taylor
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  Speaker 2: intersects with Vision Russell.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the family they amended their lawsuit basically their claim
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  Speaker 1: is that the warrant that led to Breonna Taylor's death
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  Speaker 1: was issued not because of drugs, but because JaMarcus Glover
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  Speaker 1: was an obstacle to the Elliott Street redevelopment portion of
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  Speaker 1: Vision Russell. He rented a home in the twenty four
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  Speaker 1: hundred block of Elliott Avenue in the Russell neighborhood, so
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  Speaker 1: that would put him right in the middle of where
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  Speaker 1: all this redevelopment was happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a reminder that JaMarcus is the ex
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  Speaker 2: boyfriend of Brianna Taylor and they remained casual friends or
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  Speaker 2: passive friends, right.
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  Speaker 1: And JaMarcus Glover has had previous drug charges before, he's
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  Speaker 1: been arrested for drugs. He was arrested as a result
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  Speaker 1: of these warrants. They did find guns and drugs in
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  Speaker 1: the home that he rented. But the argument the police
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  Speaker 1: have always made is that JaMarcus Glover is not just
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  Speaker 1: a drug dealer, He's one of the biggest drug dealers
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  Speaker 1: in Louisville. And it's turning out that that's probably not
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  Speaker 1: the case. He was just kind of an average street
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  Speaker 1: level drug dealer, and what he also was was a
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  Speaker 1: person who lived in the middle of this development that
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  Speaker 1: they were trying. They were basically trying to tear down
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  Speaker 1: homes in this stretch of Elliott Avenue, and JaMarcus Glover
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  Speaker 1: lived there and wasn't moving, like he was just there
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  Speaker 1: and wasn't going to leave a lot of residents had
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  Speaker 1: already left and he was not leaving. So they start
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  Speaker 1: investigating JaMarcus Glover under the guise of drugs and they
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  Speaker 1: issue this warrant for Brianna Taylor, and the warrant says
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  Speaker 1: that a US Postal inspector confirmed he'd been receiving packages
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  Speaker 1: at Breonna Taylor's residence. That makes it sound like the
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  Speaker 1: US Postal inspector was receiving them. No, I mean JaMarcus
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  Speaker 1: Glover was receiving packages at Brionna Taylor's residence.
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  Speaker 2: But what they failed to leave out of the warrant
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  Speaker 2: is that the it failed to mention the same Postal
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  Speaker 2: inspectors said there were no packages of interest being received there.
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  Speaker 1: Right, which should have gotten that warrant shut down. If
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  Speaker 1: that's the basis for the warrant, that he's receiving packages there,
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  Speaker 1: and then the postal inspector says, yeah, it's like fucking
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  Speaker 1: sweatshirts from Amazon. Who it's not like drugs, Like the
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  Speaker 1: warrant at that point should have been shut down and
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  Speaker 1: never approved, but instead it was approved based on this
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  Speaker 1: information that Breonna Taylor was getting packages for JaMarcus Glover
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  Speaker 1: sent to her apartment, but they weren't suspicious packages and
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  Speaker 1: that part was never mentioned. So the warrant goes through
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  Speaker 1: the detective who wrote the affidavit seeking the warrant. His
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  Speaker 1: name's Detective Joshua Jaans. He's been placed on administrative reassignment
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  Speaker 1: until questions about how and why the search warrant was
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  Speaker 1: approved or answered, that'll show him go do a different
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  Speaker 1: job for a while. You're being punished, Like that's such
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  Speaker 1: egregious miss conduct. So yeah, willingly leave out arguably the
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  Speaker 1: most important detail, which is that nothing suspicious was happening.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing is that that doesn't seem like that
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  Speaker 2: seems like something that probably happens often. Oh yeah, like
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  Speaker 2: he wanted that warrant. I mean, like no one went
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  Speaker 2: into that house knowing exactly what was going to go down,
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  Speaker 2: you know. But again it was it was this not
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  Speaker 2: following protocol and being reckless that led to this just
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  Speaker 2: tragic totally unnecessary debt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the part that I think really needs
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  Speaker 1: to be investigated. I think this detail is the part
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  Speaker 1: that really needs to be investigated, Like how did that
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  Speaker 1: warrant get approved in the first place. Breonna Taylor's family
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  Speaker 1: they amended their lawsuit and basically what they allege is
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  Speaker 1: that the narcotics officers who executed the warrant were misled
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  Speaker 1: into believing that they were doing it in an effort
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  Speaker 1: to take down some of Louisville's biggest drug dealer, and
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  Speaker 1: that the people who misled them were another newly formed
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  Speaker 1: police squad called Place Based Investigations, and that's who Detective
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Jane's worked for. He was not the cop who signed
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: this warrant, was not a narcotics officer. He was with
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: this Place Based Investigations, which has also been working on
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: cleaning up areas tied to this Vision Russell project.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: And that's why I kind of wanted, like, it's the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: call to action, specifically for Brionna Taylor's to arrest the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: cops who shot Brionna Taylor. But in a way, if
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: this is true, were they were pawns? And yes, they
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you know, acted recklessly in a way that ended up
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: murdering someone. But if they were misled, I mean, I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: think more beyond them, something bigger needs to be held culpable,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the system, the department, you know that, It's it's beyond
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: just those individuals.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I think that is what has
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: aroused her family's suspicion, Like, not just the fact that
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: they lied to obtain this warrant, but if you're lying
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to obtain a warrant against someone who, as it turns out,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: is not the huge drug dealer you've portrayed them to be,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: then what was the motivation? And I think that's that's
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: kind of what they're getting at by amending this lawsuit,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: is was this the motivation? Was it just so you
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: could get this one resident out of Elliott Avenue? And
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: as a result, they filed all of these warrants and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: started trying to take him down as a drug dealer
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and fucking killed Breonna Taylor in the process. So yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it's it's bigger than the cops who shot her. They're
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: definitely not innocent. Obviously they have some culpability in it,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: but yeah, the reason they were there might not be
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: completely their fault. It seems like what's being implied is
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that those cops were lied to.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, they were misled. They didn't have all the information.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: They were kind of like foot soldiers, whereas like you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: who's who's giving the orders? Where how deep does this go?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Like you know, if it is related to this development,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and you know, this theory points to that direction, since
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: like they're really going out of their way to to
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: target JaMarcus this, you know, someone who's not a huge
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: drug dealer, but they're saying they're going after him for drugs.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: But like, you know, there's such a specific issue that
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the city has with him, Like why are they going
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Like why are they going so all out with this
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: one dude? Like above and beyond and it's it's you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: it looks like it's because they want his property. They
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: want him to move, they want that lot. Then they
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: like they earlier that year, they took over about eight
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: lots on that same block.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, about a month before Breonna Taylor died, the city
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: demolished eight different houses on this one block, all within
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: one week. And in the sixteen years prior, nine houses
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: total had been demolished in that area. And not only that,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: but immediately after JaMarcus Glover was finally arrested. They bought
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the house he was renting for one dollar, and the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: fair market value of the home granted was only seventeen
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty dollars, but still one dollar is
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: all they paid for it, and with that they were
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: able to proceed with cleaning up Elliott Avenue. And one
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of the other things they point out in their lawsuit
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is that the first five no knock warrants of twenty
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: twenty were all issued in this case, which is again
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: really suspect if it turns out JaMarcus Glover was not
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the drug dealer they were making amount to be because
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: it's such an intense effort to take down one person.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes you question the motive.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Louisville. We just did an episode of the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: main unpopular opinion podcast, Yeah about a TV show called
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: sixty Days in Narco Land. You ever seen it?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I haven't.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's the most problematic show on television. It's basically like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: if the TV show Cops and the TV show Survivor
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: had a baby, and that baby should have been killed
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: on the delivery room table, but instead it grew up
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and thrived and turned into the worst show on television.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It's basically a show. It's like Cops, but there are
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: like reality show contestants who they embed in like poor
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: communities and jails, who are just there to like spy
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: on people and get information that the police who are
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: behind this show will then use to further their investigations.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And it takes place in Louisville or very close to Louisville.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And even on that show, the cops like they focus
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: on this one drug dealer, alleged drug dealer named Lil Skinny,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: which fucking Justice for Little Skinny watched the show. They
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: really fuck with this guy relentlessly and at one point
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: they show up at his house and they find a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: personal use bag of weed, one gun, and fifteen thousand
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: dollars and that's what they end up arresting him for
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: is a gun and personal use weed, and like half
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the show is about how this guy is the biggest
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: drug dealer in Louisville. And it's just a show about
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: this fucking police department, I forget the name. It's close
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to Louisville and it's just them fucking terrorizing people for entertainment.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And it's like it premiered a year after that same
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: police department had this huge scandal where two other cops
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: were working with drug cartels to distribute meth in the area,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and then a year later they get their own TV
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: show to try and fix their image. It's like, fucking
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: abolish Louisville, Like fucking everyone moves somewhere else, and we'll
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: just shut that city down.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: But like you know, when like a building is infested,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: they put like a big tent over it. Yeah, just
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: put a big tent over Louisville and.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. Set off some police foggers, Yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to drive the police out, then you can just send
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: people back in. So that's kind of where the Breonna
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Taylor case is now is. The family is now arguing
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that this was something way more than just indiscriminate police violence.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: There was actually a plot behind this that involved something
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: that they're saying it's not, which I mean, I'm not
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: going to start siding with the police now, Like I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: fucking I buy this, Like there there has to be
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a reason they focused on this one guy as hard
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: as they did, and it seems like it doesn't make
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: sense that reason.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense that they'd have such an obsession
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: with someone who's really like not a big player. You know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: it is red flag for sure.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Right and especially with him being one of the last
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: people to leave this area that they are desperately trying
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to revitalize or gentrify, Well, it's like they.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Didn't even try to make it worth his while. I
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: assume they wanted him to break his lease and just
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you know, moving's not like that's a big deal. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: remember they were doing some sort of project in my
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: hometown when I was younger, where they basically they wanted
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to make a bridge, so they had to get rid
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: of a few neighborhoods. And I'm sure there was some
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: financial incentive for it, but like I mean here, if
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: they're buying the property for a dollar, it just sounds
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: like they want to.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really a It's a story as old
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: as time. Like like in La the reason we have
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: this robust highway system is because we fucking put highways
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: in the middle of people's neighborhoods and drove them out
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: of their homes. Do you are you are you familiar
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: with the Dodger Stadium story how we got Dodger Stadium?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I am not, but I'd love to hear it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: It was. Dodger Stadium is in an area of LA
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: called Chavez Ravine, and Chavez Ravine used to be this
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: enclave of Mexican people who basically, if you go back
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and look at pictures, like you can see all of
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: LA and it looks like La does now mostly there's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: lots of buildings, and then it just looks like there's
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: another country in the middle of LA. Like they had
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: their own schools, they had their own stores, they were
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a thriving community. The area was kind of run down
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: because they weren't rich, but they were fine.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: It wasn't incorporated, right, I believe it was okay. It
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: was like its own city.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. And what happened. What happened is
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: at one point, this guy who did have good intentions,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he was like, here's what we're going to do. We're
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: going to go in and fix that area up and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: like rebuild your houses, and you have to move while
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: we do that, but then you're all going to move
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: back in. And that was the plan, was to revitalize
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: this area, move people out while they did it, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: then move them back in. And then after they got
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: everyone moved out. The city was like, hey, what you're doing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: That sounds like communism, and we're really cracking down on
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: communism in this country right now, because this was during
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the Red Scare, it was when everyone in Hollywood was
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: getting out at his communists. So after everyone moved out,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: they sent the guy to fucking prison for a year
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and accused him of being a communist. And meanwhile, all
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of these people had been displaced from Chavez Ravine.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: They're like talking about the developer jailed.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy who wanted to come in and fix
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the area back up. They called him a communist, sent
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: him to jail for a year.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I think because developers are generally not known to care
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: about the people they displace. You're you know, you just
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: look at the property.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: He worked for the city. He wasn't like just a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: real estate developer.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's why it sounds like he's being punished
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: for having ethics.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Oh he was, he was. He was punished for trying
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to help poor people. Like anything that helped poor people
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: was considered communism in the fifties, which.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Is bad communist. You know, it's just such it's it's
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: been hammered into us for decades. Like you hear communism,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you think bad. I mean, that's in America. That's been
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: drilled into us, and it's like, I don't think a
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: lot of people even really understand.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Oh no, definitely not so. So what happened after they
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: got everyone out and sent that guy to jail, They
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: were like, all right, well, whatever we put there has
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to be for public use, public use. And they were like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: how about a new baseball stadium?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And I wonder if they had that planned. You know,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: they knew they wanted the baseball stadium, so they're like, well,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: how can we how can we get this guy out
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: of the way.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like that was the plan. And then
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and they.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Used whatever power they have, whatever authority they have to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: like you know, play fast and loose and and see
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: their agenda, you know, manifest.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so the city was able to buy back
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: all of the Chevez Ravine land for like cents on
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the dollar and put up fucking Dodger Stadium. There is
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a school buried under Dodger Stadium. Like in a thousand years,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: archaeologists are going to see that and be like, these
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: motherfuckers have their priorities wrong.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Put the stadium.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a school in Chevez Ravine, and they
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: decided it was easier instead of tearing it down, they
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: just took the roof and the floors out and then
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: just filled it with sand. So there was a school
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: buried under Dodger Stadium.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: That's like, you know, that's like, is Dodgers Stadium haunted?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like poltergeist. It is the poltergeist of baseball stadiums.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't move the bodies. You should have moved
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the bodies. You sick, Bucks, you sick.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And Yeah. So like gentrification, it isn't just oh shit,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: there's a Starbucks in the neighborhood. Now, there's usually some
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: political maneuvering behind it, and people get fucking hurt, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: it's you.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Don't have power or agency.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, money.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: And essentially if you don't have a shit ton of money,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: then it's like you're sort of at the mercy of
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: those who do.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I wonder had it not been for the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: George Floyd murder leading to all of these protests, I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: wonder if we would even be at this point in
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the Breonna Taylor investigation, Like would this part have even
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: come out if they didn't get all of that renewed
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: attention around the case, Like if these protests never happened,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: because it didn't seem like they were going to happen
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: because of Breonna Taylor's murder, Like, if they never happened,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I wonder if we would even know about this gentrification
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: angle to her death at all.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: It's impossible we wouldn't. It's possible this would have just
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been many incidents like this that have
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: gotten swept under the table. It's just that I think
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: the timing of this, it just was the wrong crime
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: at the right time.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, there's still not justice in this case.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It's gotten a whole lot weirder, and by the time
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: this goes up, things might have gotten very interesting in
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Louisville over the weekend because there is a black armed
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: militia headed to Louisville this weekend. And like for so
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: many years people have been saying, like, oh, here's what
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's going to take for American outlaw guns. Black people
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: need to start open carrying guns. And it's like we're
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: about to find out if that's true, because.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: There is people to just like do you have to
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: have a license to open carry?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: You have to have a license. But if it's an
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: open carrey state, that's why always read tex it is Kentucky.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: So probably anyone can walk around with a gun if
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: they're licensed to, right.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's an open carry state and you have
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a license, you can walk around with your gun. That's
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: how all these redneck chodes end up showing up at
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter protests and waving guns around. And this group,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: they're called the Not Fucking Around Coalition, they do appear
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to not be fucking around. There are videos online of
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: them marching in different areas of the country. There are
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of motherfuckers with a lot of guns. They
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: are heading to Louisville this weekend. A link to the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: video statement from their leader, a guy who calls himself
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Grandmaster Jay, And uh, he's like, we're not there for violence,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: We're not there to hunt people. Uh, we just want
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: some people arrested.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: And that's like, Oh, I was just gonna say again,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: you know, I think people, I think people need to
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: dig deeper because arresting the individuals is not that's not
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: where it ends. Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you know, people go and arrest Nazis or whatever. But
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: like if you didn't arrest you know, Hitler still needs
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to be arrested.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. On the solo episode I did last week, it's
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: about a movie that is about the murder of Notorious
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Big And that's a good example of what you're talking
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: about where, Yeah, it would be cool if we arrested
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the people who pulled the trigger, but they're tied to
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: something so much bigger, to the point that just arresting
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: them would kind of still be an injustice, Like you
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: need to get the people that led them to do this.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they would probably are the lower people, like
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the lower level people in this theory, and they could
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: be disposable and whoever is you know, truly culpable for
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: pulling the strings could go on doing what they do
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: in the shadows.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So hopefully they do get to the bottom of
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: all of this, and not just I mean, there needs
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to be some sort of justice for the cops who
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: did it, but I hope they are able to pursue
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: this and tie it to something bigger, because it seems
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: like it is tied to something bigger. I also hope
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: lots of people don't die in Louisville this weekend. I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: guess by the time this goes up. Well, know the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: thing about that group, I mean, I don't know, their
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: leader has lots of law enforcement energy about him.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of the item they see.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I Master Grandmaster J. And I'll link to some
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: of their videos, judge for yourself. Group just materialized out
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of nowhere in the past couple of weeks.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: So when you say he has law enforcement energy, like
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: former law enforcement energy, or like, do you think the
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: organization the coalition is being directed by the government.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: It feels like a plot of some sort. It doesn't
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: strike me as an organic thing, which I don't know
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: if it would be tied to our government or a government.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: But he's just got that. Like we talked about, it.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Doesn't seem as simple as they're there to just protest
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: this one specific thing.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Right, And I'm always suspicious when really big groups just
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: pop up out of nowhere, or we did. We did
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: an episode about the Frazzle Drip conspiracy a couple of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, and one of the really weird things about
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that is I came across this Twitter account, this guy
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: calls himself the Legendary Punisher and just came out of nowhere.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: There's a video of him giving this long fucking rant
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to a right wing reporter at a fucking Trump rally,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and that video was recorded in June of twenty twenty.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: His Twitter account went online in June of twenty twenty,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and he's already got thirty two thousand followers. His account
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't taken down as part of the They just took
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: down a bunch of qan on accounts. His account is
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: still up, and if you watch his videos, he seems
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: like a wrestler. He seems like a professional wrestler doing
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: one of those in between match interviews that wrestlers do,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Like he seems like a guy who's doing a bit,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: And the fact that he just appeared out of nowhere
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden is like this leading voice
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: when it comes to Pizzagate, it's like, who the fuck
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: are you? Yeah, Like, before you want me to believe
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that you are somehow fighting a good fight against evil
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: in the world, show me your fucking driver's license, Tell
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: me your real goddamn name so I can background check you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: But no one's doing that because everyone just sees it
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: like I don't know. He's probably got sixty thousand followers
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: by now, and weirdly was not taken down as part
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: of all those qan on accounts.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: What's this guy's name.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: He calls himself the Legendary Punisher, but his Twitter handle
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: is Legendary punas two Punis and then the number two.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's his name.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: That's kind of a basic handle.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's got number two thirty four thousand followers.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Account was launched in June of twenty twenty, and it's
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: all pizzagate and QAnon shit. Yeah. I think there are
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: forces out there, whether it's the American government, the Russian government,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: fucking Boogloo Chodes, who goddamn knows, but there are people
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: trying to take advantage of what's happening in the country
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: right now for political reasons.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Oh of course. No, I mean there's that political saying
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: that never waste a good disaster.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know it's exciting seeing a huge group
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of black people carrying guns through Louisville in support of
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Breonna Taylor. But I would keep your suspicions with you
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: until we have more information on that group, because they
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: could just be there to make protesters look extremely violent.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it could be like an image moved to
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: like just those sort of similar to like the cops
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: setting their own cars on fire and throwing bricks through
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: windows during our protest, So they're trying to create a
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: different narrative. It's like playing chess, you know.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I don't have any proof that that's happening,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: but man, I'm not. I am suspicious of this group's motives,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: even if they're seemingly on the right side. That's fine.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, when there's like a lot of like you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: deadly assault weapons, I think it's good to just try
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: to get the information first. Yeah, you know, like, what
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: are they about. It's a whole lot of people carrying
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of guns.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, before you enthusiastically endorse them taking over your streets,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you know, just ask yourself if maybe that's not a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: great solution either. Whole research, Yeah, look them up. Look
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: up the Not Fucking Around Coalition, watch some of the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: leader's videos, and just judge for yourself. To me, he
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: strikes me as someone who would pull someone over for
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a traffic violation.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: It's just like this day and age, you have to
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: be your own filter because there's not one source of
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: information that's just gonna you know, give you all the answers.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Except us, except us.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we FactCheck.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: We do, Yeah, and this will be Like I was
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: planning to keep tabs on the Breonna Taylor story anyway,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: but holy shit, now I'm definitely gonna keep tap on
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it because that's a huge scandal. Like, if it does
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: come to pass that those warrants were about a fucking
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: revitalization project and not about drugs, that's a fucking scandal.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: That's a deep scandal.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and people deserve to lose their jobs at the
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: very least. So we'll see how it develops.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested to see where this rabbid hole goes.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure the city would not be thrilled, you know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the powers that be would not be thrilled about this
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: getting out. I can see how they really try to
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: suppress this shit.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: And they have come out and said this is all
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: ridiculous and there's no truth to it. But also, the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: entire City Council of Louisville has sent a letter to
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the Louisville PD and demanded any documents relating to Vision
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Russell and Breonna Taylor.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Has the department made any statement about sort of dragging
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: their feet because there's been such a call for the arrest, Like,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: have they made any statement as to like why they're
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: not moved?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Not really, Like it's it seems like, I don't know,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: like it seems like a police cover up. It seems
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like this and this might be the part that they're
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: now trying to cover up is that this wasn't just
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: about drugs. It was about fucking gentrification.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the drugs was just was the cover.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And at that point you.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Can't do not no knock warrants because because you want
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to gentrify something, like they're not issuing warrants for that
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: on paper.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: No, And I don't know, Like I I am glad
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that the country is finally coming to terms with the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: idea that sometimes the police do conspire to get away
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: with shit like yeah, remember.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: People I think were in denial or just sort of
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: turning the other way and just sort of accepting it
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: is what it is. Of course, police officers play fast
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: and loose and use the you know, law, the technicalities
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to their advantage to resolve their cases.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a good example of people being reluctant
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: to accept the idea that police are bad is Steven Avery,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: who is the subject of the Making a Murderer documentary series,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Like that guy had already been framed by the police
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: once and now he was about to win a lawsuit
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: that would have bankrupted that police department. So right there,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you have motive and past evidence that they've engaged in
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: activities like this before, so now they have all the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: motive in the world to frame him for something. And
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: back when that documentary came out, there were so many
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: people who were like, well, I can't I just can't
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: imagine that the police would do that, And it's like
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: why not. Why not, like what you think in the
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: face of them being put out of business, they wouldn't
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: just frame some redneck yokel from Wisconsin and send him
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: back to prison.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Of course, sometimes blind trust is easier for some people
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: just to sort of get on with their lives and
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: go about business as usual in their society. But yeah,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, like it's off the idea that the people
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: who are supposed to like, quote unquote serve and protect
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: us are actually you know, doing criminal shit. That's that's
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: really disconcerting, and I can see how people would not
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: want to accept that that's their reality.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the kind of thing you don't want to believe,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: but at some point you have to just take the
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: evidence for what it is.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: It is what it is. We need to like fucking
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: toughen up and be able to deal with the reality
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: of the situation. I mean, granted, like all of so
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: many of our leaders are have very low eques. So
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: it's just like you know, the blind leading the blind
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and or you know, even yeah, it's it's it's a
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: weird timeline we're in.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: It really is. Uh, we are living through history, that's
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: for sure, Like we are living in a documentary right now.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just look, I'm just here on the roller coaster.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I'm on it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Let's see where it goes, you know. We that's one
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: way to put it.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Picture of everyone at the end is just everyone sobbing.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So I think that's our episode. This was good. Do
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: we have anything to plug before we get out of here.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: We're launching a zoom an unpop Zoom show. I think
• 45:24
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• 45:28
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• 45:31
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• 45:48
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• 45:52
  Speaker 1: And uh, that's it, fizzle, What do you got to plug?
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I have a few things. So since we are in quarantine,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I've been able to put a lot of energy into
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: online content. So follow me on YouTube, Instagram, and or
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• 46:10
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• 46:12
  Speaker 2: up there. And also I have a weekly podcast as well,
• 46:15
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• 46:19
  Speaker 2: new episodes every Tuesday.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Very nice. All right, let's get the fuck out of here.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Bus us say goodbye.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Bye all thanks for having me.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Goodbye everybody. We love you.