Latest / Best of Business / Nick Tuffley: ASB Chief Economist says New Zealand's economy could benefit from Fonterra sale
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Having dealt with the alliance, doing met Boak this week
- 0:18Speaker 2: next cab off. The old agricultural rankers, of course are
- 0:21Speaker 2: the brand sale for Fonterra. I got a new report
- 0:23Speaker 2: from ASB estimates the deal could unlock four and a
- 0:26Speaker 2: half billion in additional spending. The flow and effects everywhere
- 0:28Speaker 2: from manufacturing to retail to real estate everage farmer return
- 0:32Speaker 2: could hit three hundred and ninety two thousand. Nick Toughley,
- 0:34Speaker 2: asb's chief economist is back. Well this Nick morning to you.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Come on, is this an economy mover?
- 0:41Speaker 3: Look, it's certainly going to help when you ed up
- 0:43Speaker 3: and look at the how that spending could flow through
- 0:45Speaker 3: and stimulate spending and inncome another sectors and so on.
- 0:49Speaker 3: You're talking about one percent of GDP over a period
- 0:52Speaker 3: of time. I think the caveat is that the impact
- 0:55Speaker 3: gets a lot more focus and sectors that are a
- 0:58Speaker 3: bit more adjacent to where farmers normally spend their money.
- 1:02Speaker 3: So we still think the Reserve Bank will need to
- 1:05Speaker 3: tap rates a little bit freely just to help with
- 1:06Speaker 3: that sort of broader economical capurey it. Hey, this certainly
- 1:10Speaker 3: is going to help.
- 1:10Speaker 2: What's your vibe around the debt v spend? In other words,
- 1:13Speaker 2: how many paying down debt versus will go out there
- 1:15Speaker 2: and have a party.
- 1:17Speaker 3: We're roughly estimating it will be somewhere around like fifty
- 1:22Speaker 3: to fifty in the sense that you will see a
- 1:25Speaker 3: reasonable amount of debt retirement and savings built up. But
- 1:28Speaker 3: you then also see on farm investments. You'll see that
- 1:31Speaker 3: a personal spinning by farmers, and you may see some
- 1:33Speaker 3: farmers that are you know, particularly ones that have been
- 1:35Speaker 3: looking at retirement, moving off off farm and taking those
- 1:39Speaker 3: windfalls elsewhere as well. So roffle effects through.
- 1:43Speaker 2: I can't I mean, I don't know whether you can
- 1:45Speaker 2: draw comparisons. I mean I always saw the Alliance deal
- 1:47Speaker 2: going ahead because they were in a corner and they
- 1:49Speaker 2: were stuck. It's not the same with Fonterra. But I
- 1:51Speaker 2: equally see the deal going ahead. You don't turn down
- 1:53Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dollars do well.
- 1:55Speaker 3: We'll certainly be up to the farmers to decide what
- 1:58Speaker 3: they're going to support, support it or not. We've got
- 2:01Speaker 3: the votes coming through next week, and of course it
- 2:03Speaker 3: does need regulatory permission to go ahead as well.
- 2:06Speaker 2: That wouldn't be a problem, would it or what?
- 2:11Speaker 3: I don't really see any particular reasons not to, but
- 2:13Speaker 3: I'm just not the marior that I'm really that much
- 2:15Speaker 3: of an expert in. But when you're looking, when you've
- 2:18Speaker 3: seen independent reports of the offer price you know that
- 2:22Speaker 3: have been done for the sort of farmers shareholders, that
- 2:25Speaker 3: sort of suggests it's a pretty generous offer.
- 2:27Speaker 2: In reading the spread, so three ninety two is the average,
- 2:32Speaker 2: but there's sixty percent? Is it two or three hundred
- 2:34Speaker 2: thousand dollars? I think I've written that done wrong, But anyway,
- 2:37Speaker 2: the point is, is the spread of the payout of
- 2:39Speaker 2: itself broad enough to make a genuine economic impact or
- 2:43Speaker 2: a handful of people getting a shed loaded?
- 2:45Speaker 4: Though, we did some calculations that suggest that you've probably
- 2:49Speaker 4: got sort of upwards of sixty percent of farmers will
- 2:52Speaker 4: get sort of at least two hundred thousand dollars catch
- 2:54Speaker 4: wind full.
- 2:55Speaker 3: So that's that's a fair chunk, and that's pretty significantly.
- 2:58Speaker 3: You're starting to talk about a decent lot of win
- 3:00Speaker 3: amount coming through there. So in terms of you know,
- 3:06Speaker 3: fairly big decisions Okay, this is a good time to
- 3:08Speaker 3: put some money onto the farm and invest in productivity
- 3:12Speaker 3: or placing the milkshead. It's potential to have that sort
- 3:15Speaker 3: of profound decision making impad.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Just going back to the export numbers that we got
- 3:20Speaker 2: a week, all this week, whenever it was, I can't
- 3:22Speaker 2: remember how much actual lifting of the economy is dairy doing.
- 3:28Speaker 3: Look, it's basically the number one still, so it's our
- 3:33Speaker 3: very important export industry. We're still seeing the value of
- 3:36Speaker 3: our dairy exports go up. And also we're still relatively
- 3:41Speaker 3: resilient with our exports to the US as well, which
- 3:43Speaker 3: is one reasonable market for us too. So look, this
- 3:46Speaker 3: is where a fair chunk of money, not just dairy,
- 3:49Speaker 3: but meat as well, and our fruit. We get a
- 3:53Speaker 3: lot of revenue that filtered through into the economy.
- 3:56Speaker 2: You have a good long weekend. Appreciate your expertise as always,
- 3:58Speaker 2: Nick Tuffley, out of the ASP this morning.
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