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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 04-13-26 Hour 1 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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  Speaker 1: Warning, The Root, the Root, the Roots on fire. You're
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  Speaker 1: It's time war war.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent raw truth, one hundred percent American made
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  Speaker 4: All right way on the route.
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  Speaker 1: The weekend's over. Oh my god, we're back to work.
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday. Back to the slave trade. Wayne A.
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  Speaker 5: Larude is your official Conservative Maga slave major breaking news.
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  Speaker 5: Eric Swolwell resigns from Congress. Boy, you talk about ah
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  Speaker 5: a falling knife, this guy is a falling Knife's gonna
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  Speaker 5: stay up anyone who gets in the way. He was
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  Speaker 5: getting ready to be the governor of California when all
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  Speaker 5: these women came forward and said, you know, this guy
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  Speaker 5: has been attacking us, assaulting us, I guess sexually assaulting
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  Speaker 5: us and certainly having tons of affairs and certainly sexually
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  Speaker 5: harassing us. And all these women came forward, and he's
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  Speaker 5: out of the California governor's race this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: That just happened.
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  Speaker 5: And then today, moments ago, he resigns from Congress facing
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  Speaker 5: a congressional investigation. I've never seen a guy fall this fast.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: He announced it will resign from Congress amid sexual assault allegations.
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  Speaker 5: Apologized to his family and constituents. I'm deeply sorry to
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  Speaker 5: my family, staff, constituents for mistakes in judgment I've made
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  Speaker 5: in the past.
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  Speaker 1: And he's out. He's gone, just like that.
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  Speaker 5: Amazing, and lawmakers put expulsion threats a top the House
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  Speaker 5: agenda as they return with a high stakes week. Swollwell, Gonzales, Cheerfullest, McCormick,
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  Speaker 5: and Mills all faced potential removal from the United States House.
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  Speaker 5: Other big news, the US initiates the blockade of Our Moves.
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  Speaker 5: Trump warns any Iranian ships coming near will be eliminated.
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  Speaker 5: And after just a few hours, it appears. I always
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  Speaker 5: say appears, because you just don't know. Things change very
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  Speaker 5: very quickly. But Iran appears to be panicking and capitulating
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  Speaker 5: and wanting to come back to negoti shating table.
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  Speaker 1: Trump squares they're bagging him.
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  Speaker 5: Just within hours of blocking the strait, they're begging him
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  Speaker 5: because he'll strangle.
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  Speaker 1: Their whole economy.
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  Speaker 5: He may have finally found their Achilles heel and then
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  Speaker 5: separate from that empty gigantic shipping tankers are headed to
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  Speaker 5: the US for oil and gas.
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  Speaker 1: It appears that everybody in the.
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  Speaker 5: World now has to buy their oil and gas from
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  Speaker 5: the United States of America.
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  Speaker 1: Big, big news.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe that's what Trump attended from day one, but it's
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  Speaker 5: really good news. Trump slams the Pope, says he's week
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  Speaker 5: on crime and terrible for foreign policy. I'll get to
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  Speaker 5: that in a little while. Utah Valley College Utah Valley University.
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  Speaker 1: Does that name sound familiar.
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  Speaker 5: That's the college where Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and it
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  Speaker 5: faces a major backlash because they picked a lady named
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  Speaker 5: Sharon McMahon or McMahon, I'm not sure who pronounce it,
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  Speaker 5: looks like McMahon. And she wrote on She wrote on
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  Speaker 5: X right after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, murdered. She said,
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  Speaker 5: killing does not magically erase what was said or done.
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  Speaker 5: In other words, he's a horrible person and just because
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  Speaker 5: you killed him doesn't mean.
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  Speaker 1: I have to say nice things about him. She's the
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  Speaker 1: commencement speaker that they chose. She hates Charlie Kirk and
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  Speaker 1: she thinks he's a racist, and.
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  Speaker 5: They chose her for the commencement speech. Other big news,
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  Speaker 5: Trump welcomes Doordasher to the Oval office to highlight no
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  Speaker 5: tax on tips. She's a DoorDash driver and her husband
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  Speaker 5: just found out he has cancer and she's made an
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  Speaker 5: extra I think it was like eleven or fourteen thousand
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  Speaker 5: dollars this year tax free, and it's a huge savings
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  Speaker 5: that's very important to her.
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  Speaker 1: And I mentioned it.
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  Speaker 5: Only because Trump's coming to Las Vegas on Thursday, and
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  Speaker 5: he is going to be highlighting no tax on tips
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  Speaker 5: when he comes to Vegas. He's having a business roundtable,
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  Speaker 5: I guess, with a bunch of service employees who have
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  Speaker 5: made money and paid.
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  Speaker 1: No taxes on their tips. And I will be there,
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  Speaker 1: be there at his event. And now it's time for
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  Speaker 1: my commentary that I wrote this morning, So we'll open
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  Speaker 1: the show of my commentary.
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  Speaker 5: It's titled if you thought the People's Communist Republic of
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  Speaker 5: California is radical, weird, un American, try these crazy, shocking
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  Speaker 5: stories from Colorado, Minnesota, and New York.
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  Speaker 1: Folks.
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  Speaker 5: As I keep saying, we need a great American national divorce.
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  Speaker 1: Admit it, you know I'm right. It's just not working anymore.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, America, we can't live with people this radical, reckless, dangerous,
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  Speaker 5: and just playing crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm referring to Democrats. Of course. They hate America. They
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  Speaker 1: hate Republicans.
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  Speaker 5: They hate normal people like fathers, mothers, families, churchgoers. They
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  Speaker 5: hate anyone who has a chief success in wealth or
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  Speaker 5: who owns a business.
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  Speaker 1: They hate police and military. They hate white people.
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  Speaker 5: And they reserve the most hate of all for American citizens,
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  Speaker 5: anyone born in the USA. To Democrats, if you're an American,
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  Speaker 5: a law abiding citizen.
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  Speaker 1: And normal, you are the enemy.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, but there's no way to compromise with people this crazy.
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  Speaker 5: We need a separation followed by an official divorce. Now
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking about a divorce between the good Daddy, the
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  Speaker 5: Red States of America, and the crazy liberal mommy wearing
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  Speaker 5: the pink pussy hat.
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  Speaker 1: The Blue States of America as bad as.
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  Speaker 5: The People's Communist Republic of California is, and it's bad
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  Speaker 5: New York, Colorado, and Minnesota prove this week they are
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  Speaker 5: in fierce competition for the title of the worst, most radical,
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  Speaker 5: most weird, most communist Unamerican state in America.
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  Speaker 1: And the sad part is I haven't even mentioned Illinois.
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  Speaker 5: Can you imagine if things you're doing are so bad
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  Speaker 5: and weird and evil that Illinois doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Even merit to enter the conversation? Man? Are you spiraling
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  Speaker 1: to the bottom? Here?
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  Speaker 5: It just a few stories from this past week that
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  Speaker 5: showcase the evil and insanity of the left.
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  Speaker 1: We start with New York City.
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  Speaker 5: Communist and radical Muslim mayor Zorn Mandami is proposing new
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  Speaker 5: taxes on white neighborhoods to make sure white people, upon
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  Speaker 5: death won't be able to pass their life savings and assets.
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  Speaker 1: On to their children.
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  Speaker 5: I kid you not if you're white and you've worked
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  Speaker 5: your ass off your entire life.
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  Speaker 1: And achieved even a small measure of success.
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  Speaker 5: He's saying houses that cost seven or fifty thousand or
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  Speaker 5: more in New York City, that's middle class, that may
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  Speaker 5: be lower middle class. Mandami and his communist comrades want
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  Speaker 5: what's yours. They believe your life's work and wealth belongs
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  Speaker 5: to government, not your children, especially if they're white children.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, this new tax violates the US Constitution.
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  Speaker 5: No law or tax or government edict can ever be
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  Speaker 5: based on race, but even that pales in comparison to
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  Speaker 5: how New York is now treating its police officers. A
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  Speaker 5: veteran police sergeant was sentenced last week. It's up to
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  Speaker 5: nine years in prison because he killed a drug dealer
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  Speaker 5: racing away from his crime. This brilliant, brave, and creative
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  Speaker 5: police sergeant made a split second decision to protect innocent bystanders.
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  Speaker 1: The drug dealer crashed his motorcycle and died.
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  Speaker 5: The cop, a married father of three, is now going
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  Speaker 5: to prison for up to nine years for manslaughter.
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  Speaker 1: You know what happens to a cop in prison? This
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  Speaker 1: hero is being sent to hell.
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  Speaker 5: All NYPD officers need to retire or resign immediately. No
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  Speaker 5: cop can do his job in New York anymore. If
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  Speaker 5: I were a mayor, I'd have given this cop a medal,
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  Speaker 5: a promotion, the key to the city, and a ticker tape.
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  Speaker 1: Parade down Broadway. Then there's Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: The land of a thousand Lakes is now the land
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  Speaker 5: of gay Somali immigrants having public sex.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that a nice moniker? Nice brand? Gay bazar is laughing.
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  Speaker 5: Gay bathhouses were banned thirty eight years ago because they
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  Speaker 5: spread AIDS. Now thirty eight years later, Crazy Minnesota is
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  Speaker 5: bringing back gay bath houses where gay men can legally
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  Speaker 5: have sex in public.
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  Speaker 1: But the really crazy part is they're.
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  Speaker 5: Doing it just to appease gay Somali immigrants. Think of
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  Speaker 5: what kind of mass disease pandemic this could lead to,
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  Speaker 5: perhaps a perfect superbug of AIDS, monkey pocks, and syphilis
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  Speaker 5: mixed with COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Yuck. Finally, we come to perhaps the worst story of all.
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  Speaker 5: We all know Colorado's bad, but I never imagined worse
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  Speaker 5: than California bad. I believe the evil, vile, criminal communists
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  Speaker 5: who run Colorado are rigging and stealing their elections. It's
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  Speaker 5: just my opinion, but it's clear to me they figured
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  Speaker 5: out how to steal elections with a combination of rigged
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  Speaker 5: voting machines and illegal alien voting. Colorado election official Tina
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  Speaker 5: Peters witnessed the rigged machines firsthand, so she saved the
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  Speaker 5: proof for this. She was arrested, convicted, and sent to prison.
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  Speaker 1: For nine years. It seems to be going around.
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  Speaker 5: We send cops to prison for nine years for stopping
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  Speaker 5: a drug dealer, and we send Tina Peters to prison
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  Speaker 5: for proving a stolen election for a gold star mom
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  Speaker 5: in her seventies while she has cancer, nine years in prison.
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  Speaker 5: But that's not the worst story coming out of Colorado.
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  Speaker 5: As of March thirtieth, meaning about two weeks ago, it's
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  Speaker 5: now the law. Every attorney in Colorado must sign a
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  Speaker 5: radical anti Ice pledge under penalty of perjury, which means
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  Speaker 5: you go to prison if you break your signature that
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  Speaker 5: they will never use or share any information from court
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  Speaker 5: records to assist Ice. And this is an aim to
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  Speaker 5: elite immigration attorneys. It applies to all lawyers in Colorado,
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  Speaker 5: corporate lawyers, divorce lawyers, personal injury lawyers, estate planning lawyers,
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  Speaker 5: all of them. If you want to practice law on Colorado,
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  Speaker 5: you've got to agree, under penalty of perjury, that you
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  Speaker 5: will break that you will break the law. Lawyers must
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  Speaker 5: agree they will break the law, protect illegal Alian criminals,
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  Speaker 5: aid to bet felons, and violate the US Constitution.
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  Speaker 1: If not, kiss your legal career goodbye.
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  Speaker 5: So Colorado is demanding all lawyers become criminals. Folks, All
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  Speaker 5: these stories in the past we prove that democrats hate
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  Speaker 5: cops and laws and the US Constitution and normal people
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  Speaker 5: so much they're willing to send cops to prison, lawyers
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  Speaker 5: to prison, gold star moms to prison, anything necessary to
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  Speaker 5: protect illegal Alians, gaylegal Aalians, drug dealers, and rigged stolen elections.
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  Speaker 5: New York, Minnesota, and Colorado are tried desperately to pass
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  Speaker 5: California for the title of the worst, most radical, most weird,
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  Speaker 5: most communists un American state in America. And that, my friends,
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  Speaker 5: is why we need a great American national divorce. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know about you, but I can't live with these
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back at a lot of great A lot of
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  Speaker 5: great feedback about the opening commentary Wow. A lot of people,
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  Speaker 5: especially people that note me enough that they've got my
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  Speaker 5: cell phones, they text me a lot of comments, really
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  Speaker 5: really good, really really impressive, and I thank all of you.
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  Speaker 1: Here's one of them, unfreaking.
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  Speaker 5: Believable commentary as usual, exclamation point, keep rolling like the
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  Speaker 5: Patriots steamroller. You are you should be president? Well, I
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  Speaker 5: am president. I'm president of Wayne Root Incorporated. You're wondering
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  Speaker 5: why there's so much opposition to President Trump, And I
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  Speaker 5: say this about Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens and Marjorie
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  Speaker 5: Taylor Green and Megan Kelly and others too. Not just Democrats,
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  Speaker 5: not just liberals, not just communists, not just the Eric
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  Speaker 5: Swalwells of the world and the AOC's of the world,
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  Speaker 5: and all the horrible people on the Democrats. But a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people on our side now are critical of
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  Speaker 5: the president. And I just think so many of them
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  Speaker 5: have the same problem. Award winning former Washington Post journalist
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  Speaker 5: pleads guilty to child pornography. There's a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: out there that suddenly don't like President Trump, that are
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  Speaker 5: doing some really sick, disgusting, vile things, and they don't
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  Speaker 5: want to stop doing those disgusting vile things.
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  Speaker 1: Did that ever occur to you? And maybe even the
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  Speaker 1: people on our side that are criticizing Trump. Maybe I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying all of them.
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  Speaker 5: Some of them may have a legitimate beef on certain issues.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they legitimately don't like Israel.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they legitimately hate Jews. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they legitimately have turned on Trump like a rabid dog.
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  Speaker 1: Something's wrong with these people. I'm just telling you something's wrong.
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  Speaker 5: You've done a lot of good and if there's one
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  Speaker 5: or two things you disagree with, what did my hero
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  Speaker 5: Ronald Reagan say? If I agree with you seventy percent
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  Speaker 5: of time, you're my friend, not my enemy. But yet
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  Speaker 5: people out there, including Alex Jones, they're turning into enemies
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  Speaker 5: of the President of the United States. I don't understand that,
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  Speaker 5: really don't. And another reason why they're against Trump. Congressman
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  Speaker 5: timber Chet, Republican of Tennessee, did not mince words when
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  Speaker 5: he pulled back the curtain of where some of American
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  Speaker 5: tax dollars are going. He reveals the government is giving
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  Speaker 5: forty million dollars a week to the Taliban, and Democrats
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  Speaker 5: oppose ending it. We still give forty million a week.
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  Speaker 5: Why don't we give forty million a week to homeless
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  Speaker 5: vets who fought for our country and now they're on
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  Speaker 5: the street, you know, mainlining drugs with no home in
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  Speaker 5: the freezing cold and in Las Vegas in the burning
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  Speaker 5: heat of summer. Maybe we should spend forty million a
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  Speaker 5: week on them. Maybe we spend forty million a week
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  Speaker 5: on senior citizens who are starving enough to eat cat.
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  Speaker 1: Food because so security doesn't cover.
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  Speaker 5: The bill, instead of forty million a week to the Taliban.
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  Speaker 5: And Democrats oppose ending it. Why because they must be
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  Speaker 5: getting a piece of it, don't you get it.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's getting a piece of the stolen money.
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  Speaker 5: And for those of you who are criticizing Trump over inflation,
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  Speaker 5: oh my god, gas prices are so high. Listen, I
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  Speaker 5: commiserate with you. I'm paying the same gas price as you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm paying the same grocery price as you.
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  Speaker 5: But California makes more per gallon of gas in taxes
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  Speaker 5: than oil companies do in profit on the same gallon,
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  Speaker 5: More of your money is going to the taxes of
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  Speaker 5: California than to the profit of Exxon Mobile. I mean, so,
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  Speaker 5: what are you talking about when it comes to inflation.
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  Speaker 5: You know what makes up the biggest part of inflation.
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  Speaker 1: Taxes.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, if grocery price were exactly where they were, and
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  Speaker 5: gas price exactly where they were, and everything else is
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  Speaker 5: and it's all high.
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  Speaker 1: Arguably, it is all high. I get it.
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  Speaker 5: It was high underd Biden because of Biden, and now
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  Speaker 5: it stayed high under Trump. You can't get it down.
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  Speaker 5: Now the war started and you have tariff, so it
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  Speaker 5: hasn't gone down, but hasn't really gone up either.
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  Speaker 1: It's just very high.
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  Speaker 5: Life costs a lot because of Joe Biden, not because
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  Speaker 5: of Donald Trump. But if everything was the same amount
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  Speaker 1: Eight What Really Happened? Todd Sheets, Welcome the show. How
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  Speaker 1: are you Wayne.
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  Speaker 8: It's great to be back with you again.
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  Speaker 1: Always great to have you.
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  Speaker 5: So, your latest commentary in Substack is titled Trump on
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  Speaker 5: the Brink question mark or Art of the Deal question mark?
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  Speaker 5: Your thoughts on President Trump's ultimatum to Rand and the
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  Speaker 5: negotiations that occurred this past weekend, and of course now
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: the blockade on the straight uf our moves by Trump
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  Speaker 5: against the Iranian block gade.
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  Speaker 1: Your thoughts.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, The fascinating thing to me about this past week
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  Speaker 9: or so was when, you know, President Trump came out
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  Speaker 9: with some very strong statements. He made a post on
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  Speaker 9: Easter Sunday which had some explotives in it, and then
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  Speaker 9: he had a follow up post on the next.
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  Speaker 8: Tuesday, which is this past Tuesday.
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  Speaker 9: You know that basically talked about the potential destruction of
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  Speaker 9: a whole civilization, and we had this whole group of people,
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  Speaker 9: mostly from the far left, but even some from the
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: isolation is right.
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  Speaker 5: Bucker Tucker, Candice meggane Kelly Marjorie Taylor Green, just to
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  Speaker 5: name a few exactly.
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  Speaker 8: And they took this based on their interpretation of what
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  Speaker 8: he was saying as oh my god, this.
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  Speaker 9: Guy's threatening to kill ninety million civilians.
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  Speaker 8: Of course, everybody went crazy.
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  Speaker 9: There was talk about invoking the twenty fifth Amendment, pulling
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  Speaker 9: him out of power, and.
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  Speaker 8: That kind of thing.
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  Speaker 9: And yet, you know, the other side of this is, so,
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: is that what's going on? Or is this just typical
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: Trump negotiating to an even higher level than normal because
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: the stakes of the situation are so incredibly high. And
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: as I wrote about in this piece, you know, the
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: good news is we don't have to now at this
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: point debate which one was actually happening, because we saw
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: what happened. You know, the elevated rhetoric actually did bring
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: a ram to the table, at least for a period
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: of time for negotiations.
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  Speaker 8: It was a way to avoid escalating.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Even more quickly and more dangerously than we had before,
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: instead of what everybody on the other side was claiming.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: So then we get through with this.
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: Just as soon as that's done, and as soon as
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: we see that, okay, he's really going to negotiate. He's
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: not going to blow up the world tomorrow like they're
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: trying to say.
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: Then all of a sudden, we start hearing Taco, Taco,
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  Speaker 8: it's taco. Trump always chickens out. Now, how ridiculous is that?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, after we've been through, you know, him pulling
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: us out of the disastrous Obama Deal, putting the sanctions
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: on in the first place, then having the courage to
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: go out and you know, execute Operation and Midnight Hammer
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  Speaker 9: last summer to take out Duro here, recently the Ayatola,
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  Speaker 9: and now with Operation empic Fury.
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  Speaker 8: I'm to be c yes, soon to be Cuban. This
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  Speaker 8: is not somebody who's afraid to act. This is not
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  Speaker 8: somebody that's chicken. You know.
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  Speaker 9: That would more appropriately describe the presidents we've had for
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: the last twenty or twenty five years. So the endpoint
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: is what's going on, And the point of what's going
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: on is Trump does use the negotiating style he wrote
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: about in the Art of the Deal forty some years ago.
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  Speaker 9: He's used it throughout his career. He uses it here,
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  Speaker 9: but and he's not afraid to take action. But at
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: the end of all of this, he's a very careful
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: ware of the risks and the benefits, and he's trying
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: to get the optimal outcome that he can with the war.
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  Speaker 9: But he's very concerned about, you know, the cost becoming
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: too big and so, you know, one of these things
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  Speaker 9: of going in, like a lot of the people, even
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: from the writer, pushing you know, hey, finish the job,
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  Speaker 9: finish the job. And what they're saying is, you know,
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  Speaker 9: we need to go in and get control of the
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  Speaker 9: Straight of Hormuz directly, not necessarily through the blockade. This
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  Speaker 9: was a few days ago. We need to go in
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: and attack carg Island and take over, get control of
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  Speaker 9: the oil resources. Well, those things are easy to say,
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  Speaker 9: but that involves putting boots on the ground, and he's
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  Speaker 9: obviously very reluctant to do that. So I think what
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: we've seen is, you know, the hyperbole is coming from
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: all of the critics and Trump is actually sitting back
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: there and using these things to try and get what
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  Speaker 9: he wants, while he's very deliberately weighing, you know, both
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: the potential benefits of this operation which are enormous, but
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: also being very concerned and cautious about getting us involved
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: in a way where the costs could outstrip the benefits
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  Speaker 9: of what we have to to gain.
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  Speaker 5: You know, its exact opposite style obviously of a too
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: my heroes writer Trump and on O Reagan and their
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: exact opposites, even though they're kind of exactly alike.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But the way they both achieve great things, but the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: way they achieve it is exact opposite.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: So you'd never imagined Reagan Reagan would be funny. He'd
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: make a comment that would be funny, that would loosen,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: never would up Trump. This is Trump, and they keep
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: falling for the same trap. It's like road Runner against
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Wylie E.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Coyote. They always think they have Trump and they never
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  Speaker 1: have him.
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  Speaker 5: This is the way he talks, this is the way
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  Speaker 5: he negotiates.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, Todd look at me, I look
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  Speaker 5: like a completely high class guy.
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  Speaker 1: Nice suit, nice shirt. Guess what.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: When I was in high school, I was the only
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  Speaker 5: white kid, white Jewish kid in an all black high
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  Speaker 5: school Malvernon, New York, four thousand students and the one
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  Speaker 5: Jewish white kid me, And if you ever heard the
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  Speaker 5: words that came out of my mouth when black kids
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  Speaker 5: out of him that I was gonna beat them worse
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  Speaker 5: and they were gonna beat me. That's the way you fight,
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  Speaker 5: you know, That's the way you negotiate and fight when
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: your life's on the line. That's what Trump learned on
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  Speaker 5: the streets in New York. That's what I learned on
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  Speaker 5: the streets in there.
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  Speaker 1: Ark. It doesn't mean I'm not a nice guy generally
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  Speaker 1: and today.
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  Speaker 5: But back then, I had to be a vicious person
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  Speaker 5: to survive some really rough kids who wanted to hurt me,
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  Speaker 5: some gang bangers. And Trump is dealing with the most
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  Speaker 5: vicious people in the world in Iran, so he could
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  Speaker 5: use any language he wants.
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  Speaker 1: All I care about is do you come out of winner?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 5: I think he'll come out of winner. I think you
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  Speaker 5: already asked him out of winner. Matter of fact, that's
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  Speaker 5: the next topic we wanted to talk about.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: What is the US accomplished in Iran? Is it already
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  Speaker 1: a victory? What do you think?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, so, my thing is we've made enormous accomplishments there.
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  Speaker 9: If we could have gone back to the beginning of
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: this and said, hey, you know, we will take out
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: the Ayatola and a significant portion of the old regime
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: that exains his sun, yeah, you know, the country is
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: now being run by somebody who may or may not
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: even be alive. Held we've not seen in person, you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: anytime he makes us statement, it's read by somebody on TV.
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: It's not even a video of him making the statement
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: of that kind of thing. And if we were that
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: plus all of the major military accomplishments, we would have said,
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: you know, that's a huge win.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: At the same time, you know, my feeling is it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: a little too early to completely call this a major victory.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't say mission accomplished.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say mission accomplished yet like Bush did, which
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: was too early too to.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Say that and it came back to bite him.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: But I think we've done a great job, and I
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: think it's an historic military what's the right word.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: We're just we dominated so big time that in the
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: history of warfare no one's ever done. We've done in
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: five weeks. So it's kind of amazing. And it's all
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: the way you look at it. And the media's painted it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: They've pissed on Trump and painted it like it's terrible.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: It's not terrible.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's great, which is not done yet, right.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, exactly, And I think, you know, we've also got
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  Speaker 9: to go back.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: You're right.
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  Speaker 9: You know, a year nobody could imagine that we would
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  Speaker 9: be talking about the American military in this kind of
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  Speaker 9: context and in this kind of way where all of
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  Speaker 9: a sudden, we've got enough confidence as a nation and
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  Speaker 9: our leader does to employ them in these situations that
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  Speaker 9: can make a huge difference, you know, for peace and
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  Speaker 9: security of the world, because what had happened was, you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: especially after Iraq and Afghanistan, but even going back to
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  Speaker 9: the beginning point with Vietnam, you know, this series of
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  Speaker 9: misadventures had really caused America's leadership in the country itself
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: to lose confidence in our military. You know, we wondered,
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  Speaker 9: you know, are we going to be Jimmy Carter sending
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  Speaker 9: the helicopters in to crash in the desert, or are
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  Speaker 9: we going to go in and have you know the
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  Speaker 9: kind of outcomes. I think these outcomes are way beyond
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  Speaker 9: what anybody could have imagined.
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  Speaker 8: But do we have the confidence to employ the military.
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  Speaker 9: And I think we have had a series of leaders
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  Speaker 9: that frankly just didn't have the confidence of the military.
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  Speaker 8: And this has as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't forget Trump's planes got stuck in the mud,
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  Speaker 1: And somehow, instead of being like Jimmy Carter, we got.
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  Speaker 5: New ones in, saved the day, destroyed the old ones,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: and got the hell out of there.
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  Speaker 1: And we didn't lose one guy. We didn't have one injury.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of amazing. Good luck with Trump, bad luck with
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  Speaker 5: author of the book two thousand and eight, What really happened?
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  Speaker 5: Let me ask you an economist question, tok, because I
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  Speaker 5: don't know the answer this. I got like ten different
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  Speaker 1: This must be what he wanted all along. There are
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  Speaker 5: Gigantic supertankers headed for the United States, all of them empty.
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  Speaker 5: Gas because they don't have ability to get through the
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  Speaker 5: straight at our moves, and they can't get it from
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  Speaker 5: Iran anymore. We put Venezuela kind of out of business
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  Speaker 5: except for us, so they're all coming to us.
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  Speaker 1: Now. The whole world is getting their oily gas from us?
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  Speaker 1: Is that really true? Age? You know that?
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  Speaker 5: And b just because someone said it to me doesn't mean,
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  Speaker 5: kind of negative said, no, we're at one hundred almost
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  Speaker 5: at one hundred percent capacity in the United States the
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's true what's not at this point.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I've heard the same thing about the tankers. I
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  Speaker 9: those same things. It makes sense that people are going
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  Speaker 8: You know, I think we are pretty.
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  Speaker 9: Close to capacity at the prices that we were at
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  Speaker 8: Be around for a while, then we will see production kickup.
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  Speaker 9: I think right now, you know, the oil industry is
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  Speaker 9: holding back somewhat because they don't know, you.
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  Speaker 8: Know, is this thing going to be a temporary thing
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  Speaker 8: and in a month or two we're back to sixty
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  Speaker 8: five bucks.
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  Speaker 9: And if they've invested for one hundred, then they're not
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  Speaker 8: Out of it.
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  Speaker 5: So I know the November futures are only in the sixties,
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  Speaker 5: So the oil future price in November is in the sixties.
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  Speaker 1: They expect it to go right back to where it was,
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  Speaker 1: or even lower than where it was. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: so they can increase capacity. And you know what number
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  Speaker 5: Venezuela, I believe, is the number two or three oil
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  Speaker 1: We could be using Venezuela as.
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  Speaker 5: Oil as our partner, maybe go partners fifty to fifty,
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  Speaker 5: or maybe grab their price and stick something on top
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  Speaker 5: of it and make an amount on every barrel we
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  Speaker 5: sell to the other people. So I think Venezuela comes
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  Speaker 5: in the United States, but we've now got Venezuela as
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  Speaker 1: They have no choice.
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  Speaker 5: Trump as a gun to their head, so that could
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  Speaker 5: be good too. So look, as an economist, what's the
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  Speaker 1: Booming by summer.
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  Speaker 1: What do you say, Yeah, A couple of things.
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  Speaker 9: First of all, it's important for people remember we are
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  Speaker 8: So it takes time to get that tanker back in.
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  Speaker 1: Turned around, turned around.
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  Speaker 8: So guess what was happening last year then?
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  Speaker 9: And we saw a very big GDP growth number in
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  Speaker 9: the third core of last year. But since then, what's happened,
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  Speaker 9: which I think was probably the first step towards what
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  Speaker 9: shut down. Then we had the Supreme Court decision on tariffs,
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  Speaker 9: which was unfortunate and created more uncertainty about the tariffs,
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  Speaker 9: which makes it hard for businesses, especially small to medium
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  Speaker 9: sized businesses to predict and know what.
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  Speaker 8: Their costs are going to be, which is critical to
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  Speaker 9: And now we've had the war on top of that,
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  Speaker 9: so I think we've had what you're talking about has
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  Speaker 9: been coming for several months, but it's been delayed.
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  Speaker 8: By these story things.
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  Speaker 9: And I think there's a pretty good chance we get
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  Speaker 9: and then that happens.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: The third quarter I think was four point four percent GDP,
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  Speaker 5: six next year, right, which is this year now, and
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  Speaker 5: then all of that happened.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Todd.
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  Speaker 5: I think by late summer, early fall, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be wooing like the Reagan years.
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  Speaker 5: Todd Sheets, author of the sub Stack on Wealth and
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  Speaker 8: Thank you Todd, Thank you Wayne. Great to be with
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, God bless.
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