Latest / The Eye of Jupiter Podcast / 74 Unveiling the Mystical Power of the Pineal Gland and Ancient Magic
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, It's me Tom from the I Jubiter podcast.
- 0:02Speaker 1: This week, I had on fire lotus to witch a
- 0:06Speaker 1: very interesting person. We were we we got into uh,
- 0:11Speaker 1: what they do, you know, all the things that have
- 0:14Speaker 1: led them up to the point into which they are
- 0:16Speaker 1: in life, a lot of you know, hit and miss,
- 0:19Speaker 1: and a lot of self you know, looking into the
- 0:23Speaker 1: self and figuring out what it is that this person
- 0:25Speaker 1: can offer to the rest of humanity. And the interesting
- 0:29Speaker 1: thing about this episode is the more we got into uh,
- 0:32Speaker 1: the talking or into the talk the discussion, better said,
- 0:35Speaker 1: the more there was a lot of things that I
- 0:38Speaker 1: was seeing when it came to witchcraft, which is a
- 0:41Speaker 1: you know, like a word that's been kind of bastardized
- 0:45Speaker 1: or or you know, it's put into a negative light
- 0:48Speaker 1: or scene as a bad thing. I you know, my
- 0:53Speaker 1: personal opinion upon it is, you know, I don't know
- 0:55Speaker 1: if it's neither good or bad. I'm too afraid to
- 0:57Speaker 1: even delve into it personally. But nonetheless, you know, I
- 1:03Speaker 1: give everyone the opportunity to speak, you know, on the platform,
- 1:08Speaker 1: and what I was noticing is that a lot of
- 1:09Speaker 1: things that this person was saying lined up with some
- 1:11Speaker 1: of my beliefs, but from more Eastern mysticism and spirituality
- 1:16Speaker 1: and the the you know, the path I'm on my
- 1:18Speaker 1: path to where you know, I discovered you know, God
- 1:21Speaker 1: for myself and it was just a really cool conversation
- 1:25Speaker 1: and I hope you guys enjoy it very much. Yeah,
- 1:29Speaker 1: I want to thank each and every one of you
- 1:30Speaker 1: for downloading these episodes wherever you're getting it's been very helpful.
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- 1:37Speaker 1: help me mentally as well, because you know, there's a
- 1:40Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people out there podcasting, you know,
- 1:42Speaker 1: a lot of good ones, you know, and I hope
- 1:45Speaker 1: this becomes one of your you know, one of the
- 1:47Speaker 1: ones that you enjoy listening to. I'll do my very
- 1:48Speaker 1: best to find the best, the best you know, you know,
- 1:54Speaker 1: conversations I can get myself into. It's kind of a
- 1:56Speaker 1: self discovery thing as well. You know, you can also
- 1:59Speaker 1: go over YouTube and just you know, just subscribe to
- 2:02Speaker 1: the channel, you know, and maybe you're just listening to
- 2:04Speaker 1: the MP three search section of it, which is great
- 2:07Speaker 1: and find and wonderful. I was being here in Mexico
- 2:10Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't use Spotify to you know, earn
- 2:14Speaker 1: any income, let's be honest, you know, And so I
- 2:18Speaker 1: had to switch over to a spreaker, and then my
- 2:21Speaker 1: Spotify was not up to date. So I'm really sorry
- 2:24Speaker 1: about that that people were waiting for at least five months.
- 2:27Speaker 1: I'd just been so busy with you know, things down
- 2:29Speaker 1: here in Mexico, trying to survive to you know, check
- 2:32Speaker 1: it out, and I realized it has an updated since
- 2:34Speaker 1: I switched over. But that's all fixed now, and there's
- 2:37Speaker 1: a whole bunch of lives coming up. I have, I think,
- 2:40Speaker 1: around fifty lives more than i've you know, I have
- 2:43Speaker 1: to like translate over or excuse me, edit over into
- 2:47Speaker 1: audio format. But I'm doing my very best. And I
- 2:49Speaker 1: hope you guys keep up with the show. You know,
- 2:52Speaker 1: share with your friends, you know, go check out, you know,
- 2:55Speaker 1: become a member, you know, everything that's involved in podcasts,
- 2:59Speaker 1: and I hope you enjoy this one. It was a
- 3:02Speaker 1: lot of fun. It was different than when I normally
- 3:04Speaker 1: do you know, I do a lot of you know,
- 3:06Speaker 1: ghosts and cryptids and UFO stuff, and it's just you know,
- 3:11Speaker 1: as it comes to me is how I presented, and
- 3:13Speaker 1: sometimes I search out people like next week. Excuse me,
- 3:17Speaker 1: you probably already heard my next week. You probably heard
- 3:19Speaker 1: the writer Lee one. So I hope to beginning more
- 3:23Speaker 1: into the conspiracy side of things. And I appreciate each
- 3:26Speaker 1: one of each and one of you's support in the show.
- 3:30Speaker 1: And remember, man, we are the I we are aware
- 3:32Speaker 1: and enjoy the episode.
- 3:35Speaker 2: And I made a promise to myself that I wanted
- 3:37Speaker 2: to be the mentor or teacher that I could not
- 3:41Speaker 2: find when I started, you know, started out in this
- 3:44Speaker 2: path that I couldn't find. And that's kind of what
- 3:47Speaker 2: I do. Now.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Welcome back to Dade Podcast. I'm your host, Tom Franklin.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Today we have on the wonderful fire loadus to which
- 4:59Speaker 1: the come on and talk with us about all things
- 5:02Speaker 1: you know, witchcraft and a like and who. We'll see
- 5:04Speaker 1: where the conversation goes. I'm looking forward to it. I
- 5:07Speaker 1: hope you guys are looking forward to it as well.
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- 5:29Speaker 1: So today this is a Tuesday at three thirty p
- 5:36Speaker 1: Central time, and every every Friday I have a live
- 5:40Speaker 1: at six I have the and that's East coast time.
- 5:44Speaker 1: I always should be doing only East coast time. Maybe
- 5:46Speaker 1: one day I'll figure that out. Yeah, so I got
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- 5:50Speaker 1: ahead and support me anyway you'd like. You know, all
- 5:52Speaker 1: those things help and all that's out of the way.
- 5:55Speaker 1: So with everything to decide and me all my stumbling
- 5:57Speaker 1: and bubbling like I always do. The beginning of these
- 5:59Speaker 1: episodes's welcome to the Igibrat podcast. Fire Lotus the Witch.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for having me.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Thank you for accepting my invitation. I have a bit
- 6:11Speaker 1: of an admission on my behalf. Uh so behind the
- 6:14Speaker 1: behind the fourth wall, mister Lotus, how that would work.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Was kind of forgot about the show. But my admission
- 6:26Speaker 1: to you, my friend, is that I also forgot about
- 6:28Speaker 1: the show. I look on my phone and I was like,
- 6:32Speaker 1: oh my god. Not only that, my friend, I also
- 6:35Speaker 1: forgot to send you a link, and that never happens
- 6:38Speaker 1: to me, so just.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Make I looked at my phone and I saw the
- 6:43Speaker 2: email and it's like you know what you sent me?
- 6:46Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, maybe it's an era. And
- 6:47Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, everything hit and I was like, oh.
- 6:50Speaker 1: No, that's exactly where I was. I was like, oh
- 6:54Speaker 1: wait a minute, is that today? I thought it was tomorrow.
- 6:56Speaker 1: No one, I don't schedule anything for today, but I do.
- 6:59Speaker 1: I move thing is over. Oh crap. So yeah, it
- 7:01Speaker 1: was supposed to be today and I forgot as well,
- 7:03Speaker 1: So there's no pressure on your end. You messed up,
- 7:06Speaker 1: I messed up. We mess up together, but there's some
- 7:08Speaker 1: particular reason that it all worked out. So yes, please
- 7:12Speaker 1: do me a favor to me, as well as everybody
- 7:15Speaker 1: who watches the show, introduce yourself and tell us a
- 7:18Speaker 1: little bit about yourself and where we can find you.
- 7:20Speaker 2: So I'm fire Lotus to the Witch. You can find
- 7:23Speaker 2: me on Spotify, Apple Casts, or you can find me
- 7:26Speaker 2: on TikTok Facebook YouTube by Fireladus the Witch. I am
- 7:30Speaker 2: a professional witch who does different styles of magic and
- 7:34Speaker 2: I'm also a channeling medium and I love everything paranormal
- 7:39Speaker 2: and everything that kind of goes in with that.
- 7:42Speaker 1: So that's cool, dude. All right, So okay, how old
- 7:46Speaker 1: are you. Let's go let's go here.
- 7:49Speaker 2: I am thirty two, so.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Still a very young person. I am forty five. Okay,
- 7:56Speaker 1: so thirty two. So when did this begin for you
- 7:58Speaker 1: where you will always felt a little out of place?
- 8:01Speaker 1: Or was there just something that happened that sparked everything.
- 8:04Speaker 2: So the mediumship aspect, technically, I've been a medium my
- 8:09Speaker 2: entire life. I saw spirits growing up. I talked to them.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Around the age of eleven and twelve, I was introduced
- 8:16Speaker 2: very vaguely to Wicca, and then through WICCA I kind
- 8:20Speaker 2: of discovered, oh wait, no, witchcraft is real. I'm no
- 8:23Speaker 2: longer wicked now. At the age of thirteen, I started
- 8:27Speaker 2: or I came what they call is came out of
- 8:29Speaker 2: the broom clalls, and I came out to my family
- 8:30Speaker 2: that I was practicing witchcraft. The medium ship.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I didn't I've ever heard that one.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Okay, the medium ship aspect, I kind of teeter tottered
- 8:43Speaker 2: between it. But it wasn't until I was about twenty
- 8:45Speaker 2: eight into my thirties did I actually finally be like
- 8:49Speaker 2: you know what, I am a medium, this is who
- 8:52Speaker 2: I am. I'm walking that path. And then in the
- 8:55Speaker 2: process of that, I discovered that I'm also a channeling medium,
- 8:59Speaker 2: so the way that I connect spirits is slightly different.
- 9:02Speaker 2: There's different styles of mediums. And then I think I've
- 9:07Speaker 2: been on I think I've been doing online wise for
- 9:11Speaker 2: about I want to say, say eight years. Uh. It
- 9:14Speaker 2: started with a Facebook or started with Instagram, went to
- 9:17Speaker 2: a Facebook page. I started doing live, which is chats,
- 9:21Speaker 2: which I got to get back to. That led over
- 9:23Speaker 2: into YouTube, and then that went to a podcast, and
- 9:27Speaker 2: then eventually I downloaded TikTok and that's I kind of
- 9:30Speaker 2: center around that, just because that's the like, you know,
- 9:33Speaker 2: you can get more reach to people depending on what
- 9:35Speaker 2: you're doing. And yeah, I teach, I mentor and just
- 9:41Speaker 2: kind of talk about all the weird stuff that goes
- 9:45Speaker 2: on in the world around us.
- 9:47Speaker 1: I think it's suit like awesome and you know, super
- 9:50Speaker 1: gratifying to me as a person to meet another person
- 9:53Speaker 1: that we don't know each other from, you know, bear
- 9:55Speaker 1: taking a crap in the woods. But I enjoy the
- 9:57Speaker 1: fact that people follow their path, whatever that may be,
- 10:01Speaker 1: and if they put a smile on a face like
- 10:02Speaker 1: I see on yours since I've known you for six
- 10:05Speaker 1: minutes and seventeen seconds. That's that makes it, That makes
- 10:10Speaker 1: it this channel all worth the while because I'm doing
- 10:12Speaker 1: what I want to do and being I guess an interviewer.
- 10:15Speaker 1: It just you know, mix my musical pass with my
- 10:17Speaker 1: stand up and then you throw that together with you know,
- 10:20Speaker 1: podcasting and this is what comes you know, and so
- 10:25Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, how do you how do you
- 10:28Speaker 1: help people or do you help them like get through
- 10:29Speaker 1: things by doing.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Maybe a different route to uh kind of? So I
- 10:34Speaker 2: have services where the mediumship aspect kind of I really
- 10:38Speaker 2: tap into it reading oracle cards. So I offer readings
- 10:41Speaker 2: and then I offer spell work. But outside of that,
- 10:45Speaker 2: I do spiritual advisories and then the type of content
- 10:47Speaker 2: that I make when I when this kind of fell
- 10:50Speaker 2: into my lap as I had multiple people that I
- 10:53Speaker 2: respected in my life like hey, you need to start
- 10:55Speaker 2: teaching this, and I'm like, no, not ready for that,
- 10:58Speaker 2: and it kind of and I made a promise to
- 11:02Speaker 2: myself that I wanted to be the mentor or teacher
- 11:06Speaker 2: that I could not find when I started, you know,
- 11:09Speaker 2: started out this path that I couldn't find, and that's
- 11:13Speaker 2: kind of what I do now. So I go over
- 11:14Speaker 2: a bunch of topics on like YouTube or TikTok about
- 11:17Speaker 2: how to begin your witchy journey, how to tap into
- 11:22Speaker 2: a newer one is how to tap into the medium ship,
- 11:24Speaker 2: because I personally believe that everybody has the equipment is
- 11:29Speaker 2: what I call it inside of us, I call it
- 11:30Speaker 2: a translator. So whether that is called your intuition, that
- 11:36Speaker 2: chill that goes over you, spirits and ancestors, your ancestors,
- 11:40Speaker 2: everybody's ancestors. They they're always around us, but everybody perceives
- 11:46Speaker 2: spirit differently. So I kind of helped because I have ADHD,
- 11:50Speaker 2: so I'm neurospiciness, and a lot of the teachings out
- 11:54Speaker 2: there on witchcraft or typing into your medium ship, it's
- 11:59Speaker 2: always about calming the mind, and like meditating, somebody with ADHD,
- 12:04Speaker 2: it would be almost torture to quiet the mind to
- 12:07Speaker 2: kind of focus on one thing. So I basically just
- 12:11Speaker 2: kind of talk about what I do and things that
- 12:13Speaker 2: have worked for me. I go over books in my
- 12:17Speaker 2: real life outside of online. I've done we'll say, cleansings
- 12:22Speaker 2: on multiple properties before I've helped blessed places I've lived
- 12:28Speaker 2: with or I've lived at multiple paranormal active locations, and
- 12:33Speaker 2: I've kind of been steeped in paranormal in one way,
- 12:36Speaker 2: shape or form my entire life.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Wow, it's that that is a it's very interesting. Uh,
- 12:43Speaker 1: the party were discussing about how people all have the equipment.
- 12:47Speaker 1: You know, you probably hear this a lot. Like you know,
- 12:49Speaker 1: like when somebody passes, they seem to always seem to
- 12:52Speaker 1: come in through the dreams. Maybe you can expound expound
- 12:54Speaker 1: upon that a little bit.
- 12:56Speaker 2: So, for one, when a spirit passes over, depending on
- 12:59Speaker 2: how they past and a lot of other details, it
- 13:02Speaker 2: takes time for that spirit to transition over. But with dreams,
- 13:07Speaker 2: the best ways to describe it is dreams are in
- 13:09Speaker 2: between so on like a scientific level. When we go
- 13:12Speaker 2: to sleep, the reason, the whole main reason that we
- 13:15Speaker 2: dream is for our subconscious and our consciousness to be
- 13:19Speaker 2: able to communicate to one another. They do that by imagery.
- 13:23Speaker 2: But it's also an in between as in it's kind
- 13:27Speaker 2: of how do I word this, It's kind of a
- 13:31Speaker 2: perfect meeting point because with meditation, with dream works, with
- 13:35Speaker 2: you going to sleep. There's a lot of cultures and
- 13:38Speaker 2: a lot of other beliefs that you kind of travel
- 13:40Speaker 2: outside of your body and spirits, because spirits are in
- 13:44Speaker 2: a way omnipresent, as in they're all around us constantly,
- 13:48Speaker 2: but even as a medium, I don't constantly see them.
- 13:51Speaker 2: So they kind of like imagine a very thin layer
- 13:55Speaker 2: or a thin filter that here where we're at the
- 13:57Speaker 2: living and then where they're dead is when we it's
- 14:01Speaker 2: kind of a shortcut in a way to where they
- 14:04Speaker 2: can easily get those messages across. We have a translator
- 14:08Speaker 2: as in some people some cultures call it the penal gland.
- 14:12Speaker 2: It's part of that. But so when it comes to
- 14:14Speaker 2: the psychic senses, right, you're clairvoyance, clare, audience, all of
- 14:18Speaker 2: those are just your natural senses, but without any filters
- 14:22Speaker 2: that the society puts on us. You know those moments
- 14:25Speaker 2: in times where you start getting older and they're like, hey,
- 14:28Speaker 2: you need to grow up, you need to get out
- 14:29Speaker 2: of your head. In reality, it's kind of placing a
- 14:34Speaker 2: bridge between the two. So when we go to sleep,
- 14:37Speaker 2: there's nothing there and they can easily transition over and
- 14:41Speaker 2: it's an easier way for them to contact us.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, I love the panial gland stuff. Because that's
- 14:47Speaker 1: kind of more of the area I come from, is
- 14:49Speaker 1: the see to the soul. You give released diamethotrip tomine
- 14:52Speaker 1: into your system when like forty four days in the
- 14:54Speaker 1: womb and every night when you're in sleep. It's indodgenous.
- 14:57Speaker 1: It's the connection to the soul, the spirited in the
- 14:59Speaker 1: other all in the same time. That's that's my shit.
- 15:04Speaker 1: That's what I love it. That's why you know the eye.
- 15:06Speaker 1: It all has its own little you know. I kind
- 15:09Speaker 1: of the marketing on it is not wasn't intentional. It
- 15:13Speaker 1: was kind of like just what I felt and it
- 15:15Speaker 1: kind of came through out there, you know, sitting on
- 15:16Speaker 1: it for a minute, and uh, I really dig that. Man.
- 15:20Speaker 2: I find too with the marketing thing. I find that
- 15:24Speaker 2: people who kind of answer to the calling, like with
- 15:26Speaker 2: you creating a platform for all these people to share
- 15:29Speaker 2: their experiences with me. After I came up with the
- 15:33Speaker 2: name Fireload as the witch, I learned that there are
- 15:37Speaker 2: other things directly connected to that. So I love the
- 15:40Speaker 2: Flotto delease symbol, and all throughout my life I was
- 15:43Speaker 2: always drawn to it. Well. In certain cultures, the flodo
- 15:46Speaker 2: de lease is also a symbol of the lotus.
- 15:50Speaker 1: So there were a lot of you're well read, you're
- 15:52Speaker 1: well read into stuff. You're really you're really into it. Man,
- 15:55Speaker 1: that's awesome. I love that. Oh okay, my girlfriends over
- 16:00Speaker 1: are eating and I didn't. It looks like she's eaven Ridge.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Is that rigs? No, it's not ribs. I don't know
- 16:05Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, I'm down here in Mexico. Dude,
- 16:09Speaker 1: where are you? Where are you hailing from at the.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Moment, I'm currently in Florida.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Okay, so you're gonna be okay. I have another big
- 16:16Speaker 1: friend of mine, don Or who what, who's used to
- 16:20Speaker 1: be very part of a very powerful witch coven himself
- 16:23Speaker 1: didn't know how bad it was. Uh you know, you know.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Also on the LGBTQ, you know Spectrum, there a great
- 16:29Speaker 1: fucking person and his name is Mark Elliott Foltz. And
- 16:31Speaker 1: that guy, that dude, that person that her is a
- 16:35Speaker 1: motherfucker and uh, do you do you like help? Maybe
- 16:39Speaker 1: like what he does is like, for example, he got
- 16:41Speaker 1: tested about Austin Lawrence, who does like documentaries about you know,
- 16:44Speaker 1: past lives and stuff. And you know, ghost adventure a
- 16:47Speaker 1: hunting kind of thing. Adventures probably has a dirty connotation.
- 16:50Speaker 1: To it. But anyhow some what I meant, and he
- 16:52Speaker 1: was like, okay, he got in contact for a friend,
- 16:55Speaker 1: so h yeah, I know a medium. He also he
- 16:57Speaker 1: he can actually he's uh he but he he's he
- 17:03Speaker 1: showed he sent me an audio of the Belwich entering
- 17:06Speaker 1: him and him channeling the Bellwich and uh yeah, he's
- 17:10Speaker 1: he goes he can go dark dog, but he's such
- 17:14Speaker 1: a he's such a being of light. And he was like,
- 17:16Speaker 1: if you want to, I could as a twang to him.
- 17:18Speaker 1: I could do that as well for you, and you
- 17:21Speaker 1: could ask the bell which questions. And I'm like, no,
- 17:25Speaker 1: that's I'm that. I'm good you. I would just put
- 17:29Speaker 1: your candles out, I'll get your salt. I thought you would, no, no,
- 17:31Speaker 1: thank you. Anyway, this guy, he contacts these people. You know,
- 17:34Speaker 1: he goes, I'm not telling you where I'm going before
- 17:36Speaker 1: you get there. You tell me about the location, what's there,
- 17:39Speaker 1: what I am to find? And he no, Joe, dude,
- 17:44Speaker 1: I would say he nails ninety percent of it. So
- 17:46Speaker 1: I guess my question is like, do you do that
- 17:48Speaker 1: as well? Do you help paranormal investigators, like if there's
- 17:51Speaker 1: a family member or something like this.
- 17:53Speaker 2: I have not tried. I've not been able to do
- 17:56Speaker 2: it yet, but I'm looking into it. And the reason
- 17:57Speaker 2: I got really excited when you said that and how
- 18:00Speaker 2: he works is because with my readings and stuff like that,
- 18:02Speaker 2: I do what are called blind readings. So if person
- 18:05Speaker 2: reaches out to me for a reading, I don't want
- 18:08Speaker 2: to know any information besides their name, and the only
- 18:11Speaker 2: reason I need their name is to call upon their
- 18:13Speaker 2: spirit team or their spirits to come forward. Anything else
- 18:16Speaker 2: I don't want to know until after the reading because
- 18:19Speaker 2: then it becomes biased. I already know information about it,
- 18:22Speaker 2: and I'm a human. I'm imperfectly perfect like we all are.
- 18:25Speaker 2: So if I know certain things that are going on,
- 18:27Speaker 2: my brain could be like, oh, well you know this
- 18:29Speaker 2: that you know the best advice you've lived through this,
- 18:31Speaker 2: you can give them this, versus where I just go
- 18:34Speaker 2: into it with a name and I'm like, all right, spirit,
- 18:36Speaker 2: oh yeah, step forward.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Like that crossing over show that that whatever that was. Yeah,
- 18:40Speaker 1: you're not You're doing the opposite of it. Maybe, I mean,
- 18:42Speaker 1: it's up to you. Of course, it's up to you.
- 18:44Speaker 1: Of course, Maybe like maybe during the course of the show,
- 18:46Speaker 1: you could do a blind reading on me. I won't
- 18:47Speaker 1: tell you anything and just to show people what you do,
- 18:50Speaker 1: or maybe you could tell you could you don't have to,
- 18:52Speaker 1: you know, it's up to you. Yeah, or you can
- 18:54Speaker 1: maybe tell about, like you know, an instance that you know.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Of course, you would exclude names, you know, where are
- 19:00Speaker 1: we're a professional in locations and all that, but like
- 19:03Speaker 1: where something was very dramatic that came to you and
- 19:06Speaker 1: you were able to help a family.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Okay. I also may be interested in reading you because
- 19:12Speaker 2: when you were talking, I have a notebook here. One
- 19:14Speaker 2: of the things that I do in these is like
- 19:16Speaker 2: kind of dottle and right off that I had like
- 19:21Speaker 2: kind of scribble doodle, uh, right off that I wrote
- 19:28Speaker 2: down grandfather. So I don't know if your grandfather has
- 19:30Speaker 2: passed over or not. I don't.
- 19:33Speaker 1: It's up to you.
- 19:34Speaker 2: But for some reason he stepped forward, Okay, I don't.
- 19:37Speaker 2: I don't normally do these like this, and he hasn't
- 19:42Speaker 2: said anything to me or anything like that. It's just
- 19:43Speaker 2: I wrote down grandfather. So that does mean that you
- 19:46Speaker 2: do have you have what I call a spirit team
- 19:49Speaker 2: around you.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I don't want to give you any more
- 19:54Speaker 1: information about them, So we're gonna We're gonna put you
- 19:58Speaker 1: through the test a little bit. If you if you'd
- 20:00Speaker 1: like not not to like, you know, discredit or anything,
- 20:02Speaker 1: I'll play. I'll work with you, you know what I mean.
- 20:04Speaker 1: But that was cool. Yeah, okay, I don't know however,
- 20:08Speaker 1: you want to continue, you know, it's kind of if we.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Can, let's kind of continue with like the normal questions
- 20:15Speaker 2: something like that, and if anything pops through, I'll just
- 20:18Speaker 2: randomly say, hey, I have something some Again, I don't
- 20:22Speaker 2: normally do this, even when I do my readings. I'm
- 20:24Speaker 2: not like face to face with somebody. I just have
- 20:27Speaker 2: their name and I recorded on a YouTube video. Okay,
- 20:30Speaker 2: this is even me different.
- 20:32Speaker 1: But like I said, like I said, no pressure whatsoever.
- 20:35Speaker 1: And if they if they want, if you want to
- 20:37Speaker 1: reading from fire Lows, you connect to them and help
- 20:40Speaker 1: them out. Help them out again because uh, you seem
- 20:43Speaker 1: to be I do like the I do like the
- 20:45Speaker 1: you know, like the cold call kind of you know, uh,
- 20:48Speaker 1: entrance into the whole situation. You kind of it's here, Uh,
- 20:52Speaker 1: this is what's going on and bumba boom and see
- 20:54Speaker 1: what what is? What is for you? What is not?
- 20:56Speaker 1: Because Mark has done the same to me, he told
- 20:58Speaker 1: me they've reached out to me, and you want me
- 20:59Speaker 1: to tell you that you're going through some shit right now,
- 21:03Speaker 1: everything's going to be fine. Just keep doing what you're doing.
- 21:05Speaker 1: It is the right thing. And I go, could you
- 21:07Speaker 1: miss more details? He goes Nope, and goes by it
- 21:10Speaker 1: because that's him. That's how.
- 21:13Speaker 2: It's interesting because the way that I have my property
- 21:15Speaker 2: that I'm on setup is I call it a spiritual
- 21:17Speaker 2: bathhouse because I'm already a medium, and when whether it's
- 21:21Speaker 2: a person getting into witchcraft or a person just getting
- 21:25Speaker 2: on that spiritual path, we become like little beacons. We're
- 21:29Speaker 2: like kind of like a cigarette lighter. Basically, when we
- 21:32Speaker 2: tap into certain things it we become a flame, and
- 21:35Speaker 2: other people are attracted are spirits are attracted to us.
- 21:39Speaker 2: So I have the property set up to where, since
- 21:41Speaker 2: I read people in multiple other things, spirits are kind
- 21:45Speaker 2: of just here chilling out. Basically, there are different layers
- 21:49Speaker 2: to it because I have come across I don't like
- 21:53Speaker 2: using the term demonic or negative, but I have come
- 21:56Speaker 2: across spirits like that, and they're not they're not allowed
- 22:00Speaker 2: inside the actual property. But what you said reminded me
- 22:05Speaker 2: of that.
- 22:06Speaker 1: Okay, have you do you is you're probably set to
- 22:10Speaker 1: the cardinal points and you've done like rituals to protect
- 22:12Speaker 1: it or what have you done to do that.
- 22:14Speaker 2: I primarily it's all like energetic and this is what
- 22:19Speaker 2: even in my teachings, I'm trying to kind of formulate
- 22:23Speaker 2: my brain to articulate how I see everything. So I've
- 22:29Speaker 2: blessed the property. Obviously, I've done multiple we'll say, rituals
- 22:33Speaker 2: on it. I've done multiple different types of spells and
- 22:36Speaker 2: stuff like that. But primarily the first thing is I
- 22:39Speaker 2: connected and introduced myself to the land spirits and saying, hey,
- 22:43Speaker 2: I am fire lotus. This is why I'm here. You know,
- 22:45Speaker 2: I'm not going to do anything major, but I wanted
- 22:47Speaker 2: to introduce myself and through that, in the course of
- 22:51Speaker 2: about six to seven years, I've built somewhat of a
- 22:53Speaker 2: relationship with them. When it comes to land spirits, they're
- 22:56Speaker 2: not like are what I call familiar. They're not like
- 22:58Speaker 2: family members that have over They may they may not
- 23:02Speaker 2: want anything to do with you whatsoever. They may ignore
- 23:05Speaker 2: your existence, or if you build a relationship with them,
- 23:08Speaker 2: they can notify you of multiple things, like say there
- 23:12Speaker 2: was one incident we had plumbing issues, didn't realize it,
- 23:15Speaker 2: and due to the mediumship properties, I was called into
- 23:19Speaker 2: one of the rooms and discovered, oh shit, wait, we
- 23:22Speaker 2: have to fix that. So there's a lot of things
- 23:24Speaker 2: that they can do, while also with the witchy aspect,
- 23:29Speaker 2: they can also teach you things that you're not going
- 23:31Speaker 2: to be able to find in a book. And what
- 23:33Speaker 2: I mean by that is specifically is when it comes
- 23:36Speaker 2: to the claars or the mediumship ability. One of the
- 23:39Speaker 2: main ones that I have is Claire cognates, which is
- 23:41Speaker 2: just clear knowing and it's very weird to describe because
- 23:44Speaker 2: I could be having a conversation with somebody and all
- 23:47Speaker 2: of a sudden knowledge just pops into my head. The
- 23:51Speaker 2: prime example of that and the first time my father
- 23:53Speaker 2: in law. He's a devout Christian, but since I've been
- 23:57Speaker 2: in the family, he has completely changed the way that
- 23:59Speaker 2: he looks at it. And we were at a family
- 24:02Speaker 2: gathering and an older property that I used to live
- 24:04Speaker 2: on when I first moved down here. It was extremely haunted,
- 24:07Speaker 2: the most paranormal active property that I've probably ever lived on.
- 24:11Speaker 2: There was a little bit of everything. His mother, the
- 24:14Speaker 2: person that I'm with my partner, their mother passed away
- 24:17Speaker 2: when they were younger. At age thirteen, we were at
- 24:20Speaker 2: this family gathering and we were having a conversation and
- 24:25Speaker 2: I mentioned that, why didn't you ever do the thing
- 24:28Speaker 2: that your latest wife, the one who passed away, wanted
- 24:32Speaker 2: to do? And he's like, what are you talking about?
- 24:34Speaker 2: And when I stepped on the property that I'm talking about,
- 24:37Speaker 2: the older property I used to see in the driveway,
- 24:41Speaker 2: there was this huge like it almost reminds me of
- 24:43Speaker 2: like a Texas landscape where there's like stones and this
- 24:46Speaker 2: huge boulder, and then there were multiple animal skeletons, like
- 24:50Speaker 2: a skeleton an alligator schull, and then there were rose
- 24:54Speaker 2: bushes in between it that was busting with life. And
- 24:58Speaker 2: I told my partner that before this cookout and he goes,
- 25:01Speaker 2: how did you know that? And I was like, I
- 25:03Speaker 2: don't know, that's a very good question. I'm assuming your
- 25:05Speaker 2: mother is here. So at that cookout, I told him
- 25:08Speaker 2: and he turned pale, white, looked over, and he goes,
- 25:11Speaker 2: you told him that, right was talking to my partner.
- 25:13Speaker 2: You told him that, and he goes, no, No, I
- 25:15Speaker 2: actually didn't. In fact, he told me, and after that
- 25:18Speaker 2: he kind of it was that weird random moment where
- 25:30Speaker 2: sorry about that. I had a video and I touched
- 25:32Speaker 2: my headphone and something else started playing. But that was
- 25:38Speaker 2: the moment that he kind of started to like question, Okay, wait,
- 25:43Speaker 2: how did you know that? And then there have been
- 25:46Speaker 2: moments where I've read prior people, there was one specific
- 25:49Speaker 2: one and it was the moment that kind of shocked me.
- 25:53Speaker 2: This person came to me and during the reading, their
- 25:57Speaker 2: family members showed me this farm like farm like landscape
- 26:02Speaker 2: and I described that to them and they're like, I
- 26:06Speaker 2: don't know how you knew that, but if you want
- 26:08Speaker 2: to see a picture, I would love to show you.
- 26:10Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, definitely. They sent me a
- 26:12Speaker 2: picture and it was almost down to the exact detail
- 26:15Speaker 2: of what I saw in my head while I was
- 26:17Speaker 2: reading that.
- 26:19Speaker 1: Well, that's that. I think Magical is starting to do
- 26:22Speaker 1: that too. Magical jourinning my Boddy Daniel Cahun, who's who's
- 26:25Speaker 1: a Greenwich Pagan Christian Greenwich's he's you know another iteration
- 26:29Speaker 1: or whatever, this is the whatever it means to be
- 26:31Speaker 1: human and yeah, dude, and he uh, he's like he's
- 26:37Speaker 1: he's just describing like the scene of where someone was taken.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Like he was like, oh, yeah, this is here, that's there,
- 26:43Speaker 1: there's these you know, these pillars, this porch and everything,
- 26:46Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, that's and he did that. I
- 26:48Speaker 1: think he might correct me, Daniel. If I'm wrong, you
- 26:51Speaker 1: can tell me. But he did that on the spot
- 26:53Speaker 1: all live on his podcast and they were blown away, dude,
- 26:56Speaker 1: So I you know, and Mark's the same way. He's like,
- 26:59Speaker 1: there's you know, there's a big headstone. There's tree here
- 27:02Speaker 1: that are unmarked. They went up there with ground painting
- 27:04Speaker 1: training radar, dude, and they were like over to beppeep. Yeah,
- 27:07Speaker 1: and he goes and there's a name. I can't remember
- 27:08Speaker 1: the name of the person. She's un marked too, but
- 27:10Speaker 1: she's like and then and then the dude turned around
- 27:12Speaker 1: and seen remember something there close by that area as well,
- 27:17Speaker 1: like some kind of presence. So like I believe it
- 27:20Speaker 1: do because like I'm talking to like, you know, two
- 27:22Speaker 1: legitimate friends of mine and you know, hopefully we become
- 27:24Speaker 1: friends as well. And uh, it's keep it keeps, it
- 27:28Speaker 1: keeps coming up time and time again that people are
- 27:30Speaker 1: actually like somehow, you know, it's beyond my well, maybe
- 27:34Speaker 1: I just haven't exercised them abilities that I know at
- 27:36Speaker 1: the moment to do things like that.
- 27:38Speaker 2: I think it's amazing and it's funny you mentioned that
- 27:42Speaker 2: because kind of I'm going to connect this but with
- 27:44Speaker 2: the dream conversation that we have a when I was younger,
- 27:48Speaker 2: I kind of hyper fixated on the whole dreaming aspect
- 27:51Speaker 2: and why we dream and everything. But that also comes
- 27:54Speaker 2: my theory of what you just described he did or
- 27:58Speaker 2: they did, and the kind of knowing thing and seeing
- 28:01Speaker 2: in your head. So from the moment that we are born,
- 28:04Speaker 2: our brains record every single face, every single thing that
- 28:08Speaker 2: we see. It's like a huge digital like a little
- 28:11Speaker 2: SD card. So when we go to sleep and we
- 28:14Speaker 2: hit that specific dream cycle, our brain will reorganize those
- 28:18Speaker 2: images or those little clips for the subconscious and consciousness
- 28:23Speaker 2: to communicate. Typically it's either you're trying to work through
- 28:26Speaker 2: the emotions of the day before or that specific day
- 28:29Speaker 2: where the or the pinal gland comes in at is.
- 28:33Speaker 2: I believe it's almost works like a natural AI. And
- 28:36Speaker 2: what I mean by that is you're dreaming and then
- 28:38Speaker 2: for some reason it's triggered, So then the pineal gland
- 28:42Speaker 2: is activated and it takes images that we already have
- 28:46Speaker 2: and recalibrates them kind of like AI to give us
- 28:49Speaker 2: a specific scene from the future and or the past
- 28:53Speaker 2: or future events, and for some reason our brains latch
- 28:57Speaker 2: onto that and it stems into what I call all
- 29:00Speaker 2: there's three different types of dejah voos, but the main
- 29:03Speaker 2: one that I'm talking about is where you're dreaming and
- 29:06Speaker 2: you dream of a specific scenario. Typically it's like one
- 29:09Speaker 2: to maybe five seconds long, and for some reason, your
- 29:12Speaker 2: brain will remember that and then you actually experience that
- 29:17Speaker 2: living memory and it triggers your brain and you're like, wait,
- 29:19Speaker 2: I've dreamed this. It's deja vu. And oh. When it
- 29:25Speaker 2: comes to the spiritual aspect or people ghost touring, ghost
- 29:31Speaker 2: whatever the proper term is saying.
- 29:33Speaker 1: With the.
- 29:37Speaker 2: But I believe the more that you steep yourself into it,
- 29:40Speaker 2: it almost naturally aligns the body. And then, most importantly,
- 29:44Speaker 2: and this is the secret to any medium, any psychic
- 29:47Speaker 2: out there. Through these experiences, through I dropped my headphone,
- 29:52Speaker 2: through these experiences, you wind up gaining confidence in the
- 29:56Speaker 2: ability to freely say what you're actually seeing in your head.
- 30:00Speaker 2: And the more that you're the more that you introduce
- 30:03Speaker 2: yourself to that type of energy, the more in tune
- 30:06Speaker 2: your physical body gets. Thus more things start to happen frequently. Yeah,
- 30:12Speaker 2: it's my theory.
- 30:13Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's not a bad theory. The piney
- 30:15Speaker 1: o glen is a is a mysterious you know organ
- 30:18Speaker 1: you know, and I think the name reptiles that has
- 30:19Speaker 1: a lens and a cornea. I mean, you can even
- 30:22Speaker 1: find a large pine cone in uh, in Vatican City, Like, okay,
- 30:28Speaker 1: you know what is that supposed to mean? I will
- 30:29Speaker 1: take put an image right here, So check that out. Dude,
- 30:34Speaker 1: did you see it? I mean, like, you know, you
- 30:36Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. You've seen this? Yeah? Yeah.
- 30:40Speaker 1: And I'm an artist, you know what I mean. I'm
- 30:43Speaker 1: a musician, I'm a comedian, and I'm an oil painter.
- 30:45Speaker 1: These are the things that I do artistically. And yeah, dude,
- 30:50Speaker 1: I've been around. I've done some stuff metal music, singer
- 30:54Speaker 1: and just growling and writing a bunch of you know,
- 30:57Speaker 1: you know, anti government stuff when I was young and uh,
- 31:00Speaker 1: and then I just started stand up because I always
- 31:03Speaker 1: thought it was funny, which I'm still not. But it's
- 31:08Speaker 1: very difficult. It's the hardest of the three, you know,
- 31:10Speaker 1: the three things. And then painting, which I find to
- 31:13Speaker 1: be one of the easiest. It's like right after music.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Music is the easiest for me. What I'm basically saying
- 31:18Speaker 1: is people like they call it the muse or they
- 31:22Speaker 1: call it their imagination, but everything that exists, everything that
- 31:26Speaker 1: you know, is computer in front of me, the micro
- 31:28Speaker 1: front in front of me. This was at one point
- 31:30Speaker 1: in time non existent in the thoughts of somebody. And
- 31:34Speaker 1: where did that come from? You know? I love that
- 31:36Speaker 1: concept and.
- 31:38Speaker 2: It I love that concept because I have a similar one,
- 31:41Speaker 2: which is some of the greatest minds throughout history at
- 31:45Speaker 2: their point in time of existence were labeled insane or
- 31:49Speaker 2: a little awe for crazy, but in reality now their
- 31:52Speaker 2: entire statues, entire buildings dedicated to them, and I believe
- 31:57Speaker 2: they tapped into that. They just didn't care. They experience
- 32:00Speaker 2: what they experienced. And then we also have with that
- 32:03Speaker 2: the pine coln, the pine ogland. We also have sacred
- 32:07Speaker 2: geometry that repeat oh yeah, over and over again. There
- 32:10Speaker 2: are so many things that repeat on a cellular level
- 32:13Speaker 2: to a bigger level as in the universe. And I
- 32:16Speaker 2: always tell people that it's almost like when you start
- 32:20Speaker 2: to dive into it, it almost feels like it's like
- 32:23Speaker 2: you have the key to open the door. But we
- 32:26Speaker 2: have not yet learned how to actually use the key
- 32:29Speaker 2: to fully open that door, or.
- 32:31Speaker 1: Even unlearned, dude, I mean you to even unlearned to
- 32:34Speaker 1: d to decouple yourself from cultural norms, like you know,
- 32:37Speaker 1: like you were talking about at the beginning. It's like,
- 32:40Speaker 1: you know, we say the word tree, but a tree
- 32:43Speaker 1: is a living organism, a living being as it is.
- 32:46Speaker 1: It don't have it doesn't call itself that it is.
- 32:49Speaker 1: It's its own thing. It's just doing its own thing.
- 32:51Speaker 1: It's just out there hanging out, you know what I mean.
- 32:54Speaker 1: Literally and us you know, getting like these words because
- 32:58Speaker 1: it's kind of that even in itself can got it
- 33:01Speaker 1: like I'm not religious, so we can even run that
- 33:03Speaker 1: into the Bible where it's like, you know that actually
- 33:05Speaker 1: the apple was knowledge words the you know what I mean,
- 33:08Speaker 1: that's what set us away from heaven. We were already
- 33:11Speaker 1: there like that.
- 33:12Speaker 2: And with the religion, there are also other stories in
- 33:17Speaker 2: religion that basically repeat the same thing. For I believe
- 33:20Speaker 2: the Greeks, instead of an apple, it's the fire, it's
- 33:23Speaker 2: the flame. And I believe the way that society is going,
- 33:28Speaker 2: we're getting more and more away for our roots versus
- 33:32Speaker 2: other people the other they they were still living with Earth,
- 33:36Speaker 2: they were connected to the more natural things. And now
- 33:39Speaker 2: we have things like cell phones, we have computers, we
- 33:42Speaker 2: have all these things that take us away from what
- 33:45Speaker 2: we're meant here to do. I mean, if you really
- 33:47Speaker 2: look at it, it's like we were born into a
- 33:50Speaker 2: world where we have to eventually find a job, pay
- 33:53Speaker 2: for everything around us. All that. It doesn't make sense.
- 33:56Speaker 2: So like it goes very deep.
- 33:58Speaker 1: But yees, which yeah, which upsets me about reincarnation is like, oh,
- 34:01Speaker 1: you're back now, go work at McDonald's until you're sixty five. Now, dude,
- 34:05Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that. I wanted to go
- 34:08Speaker 1: right around Mars with the silver Surfer. Dude, le me alone.
- 34:11Speaker 2: I also believe that with reincarnation, we're not always born
- 34:15Speaker 2: into the now as much as some of us. I
- 34:18Speaker 2: believe they can be born in what depending on how
- 34:22Speaker 2: you look at the concept of the time, instead of
- 34:24Speaker 2: being born now in like twenty twenty five, you could be.
- 34:27Speaker 1: Born literally yeah. Yeah.
- 34:30Speaker 2: And it just makes more sense because even with the
- 34:33Speaker 2: past life thing that explains why so many people have
- 34:37Speaker 2: memories of them being this ruler.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Or some o.
- 34:39Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, it gets deep.
- 34:43Speaker 1: There's a lot of children like when they start start
- 34:45Speaker 1: speaking and stuff, they were like, oh, I was born
- 34:47Speaker 1: here and I died at this house and da they're
- 34:49Speaker 1: like whatever. They go and it's like three times over.
- 34:51Speaker 1: They drive over there and they go, this is mister Johnson,
- 34:54Speaker 1: this is this is the fire that the dog, you know,
- 34:56Speaker 1: and it's like, yes, like what is that? And we
- 34:59Speaker 1: don't know what that is? You know, it's hard to
- 35:01Speaker 1: quantify that.
- 35:03Speaker 2: And see this is going to sound a little weird
- 35:05Speaker 2: for some people because.
- 35:06Speaker 1: What do you think we were doing the whole time?
- 35:09Speaker 2: No, this this really goes out there. Uh So, I
- 35:12Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever played Assassin's Creed.
- 35:15Speaker 1: No, with.
- 35:19Speaker 2: Assassine Creed. The whole the whole franchise thing basically is
- 35:23Speaker 2: the humans of now or whenever they've realized that you
- 35:26Speaker 2: can tap into the blood. So if you find somebody
- 35:29Speaker 2: that still shares the same blood lines to tap into them, Yes,
- 35:34Speaker 2: I believe to a degree that is true with us now,
- 35:38Speaker 2: which means because psychologically and more deeper than that, there
- 35:41Speaker 2: are certain studies that kind of say that certain things
- 35:46Speaker 2: are literally passed down genetically with us, including survival skills
- 35:49Speaker 2: like if you had someone who went through a very
- 35:52Speaker 2: traumatic time in history. They're great great grandchildren that are
- 35:56Speaker 2: born still share similar things. And what I've leave it
- 36:00Speaker 2: is outside of the distractions is we are all born
- 36:04Speaker 2: with that ability to remember, just like with kids. With kids,
- 36:06Speaker 2: we were more open than ever because again, at certain ages,
- 36:10Speaker 2: we don't have society saying hey, you know, get your
- 36:14Speaker 2: head out of the clouds, stop doing all this stuff.
- 36:16Speaker 2: But as we get older we start to lose that.
- 36:19Speaker 2: It's just like our imagination. Your imagination and your the
- 36:22Speaker 2: psychic abilities and what everything you can experience go hand
- 36:25Speaker 2: in hand. When TikTok first became a thing, there were
- 36:28Speaker 2: a lot of people that had experiences when we're all kids,
- 36:33Speaker 2: and at that point in time, up until somebody made
- 36:36Speaker 2: a video about this, we all thought that we just
- 36:39Speaker 2: experienced levitation other weird things, like when you were a kid,
- 36:46Speaker 2: you were on a school bus and there was always
- 36:49Speaker 2: like this either giant dog or this long legged man
- 36:52Speaker 2: that would chase behind the bus at certain times during
- 36:56Speaker 2: the day. Everybody thought that, you know, we're all making
- 36:59Speaker 2: it up, and people made videos and everybody was like, no, wait,
- 37:03Speaker 2: I experienced that too. With me, it was more like
- 37:05Speaker 2: a dog and the sun had to go The sun
- 37:08Speaker 2: started to go down. It wasn't like twelve o'clock you
- 37:11Speaker 2: could see it, but it was more of a shadow.
- 37:13Speaker 2: It was like a shadow dog and it was like
- 37:15Speaker 2: he was constantly chasing the bus.
- 37:17Speaker 1: Okay, that kind of goes into like even like the
- 37:20Speaker 1: Mandela effect, where we all have like this collective, like
- 37:23Speaker 1: conscious like concept of something, you know, like Ed McMahon
- 37:28Speaker 1: not being a public that's big. I'm the older guy,
- 37:30Speaker 1: so I'm forty five. I remember this. I remember seeing
- 37:32Speaker 1: going up to people's houses with the check being on
- 37:34Speaker 1: Johnny Carson all this stuff. Yeah, I don't remember being
- 37:36Speaker 1: whatever they call it. Uh. And then the other one
- 37:38Speaker 1: for me is a Volkswagen symbol. For me, it's always
- 37:41Speaker 1: been together and now it's always been divided.
- 37:43Speaker 2: And it's like and with the silly the guy with
- 37:48Speaker 2: the check uh, the something house saying where like if
- 37:52Speaker 2: you would randomly win, you'd get this giant check.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, the publisher's clearing house, Yeah.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Yes, publisher's clearing house. And then there was Fruit of
- 38:00Speaker 2: the loom. It had a yes and then all of
- 38:05Speaker 2: a sudden it's like no, and I'm like no, it
- 38:07Speaker 2: did it had it happened.
- 38:09Speaker 1: Freaking eighteen van was all black with a red stripe. No,
- 38:13Speaker 1: now it has a silver top, red stripe bottom.
- 38:17Speaker 2: Since exactly. And the way that I look at things
- 38:21Speaker 2: like this with like conspiracy theories or whatever, it's like
- 38:24Speaker 2: somebody saying, oh, no, there there are no aliens, they
- 38:27Speaker 2: don't exist. Why but we are not the most intelligent
- 38:30Speaker 2: species that are out in a universe that just goes
- 38:33Speaker 2: on and on and on. There's no way we could
- 38:35Speaker 2: be so it it it makes sense. It's just like
- 38:39Speaker 2: some people believe that this that humans are civilization itself,
- 38:44Speaker 2: the history that we know of it is a lie.
- 38:47Speaker 2: And I fully believe that we're finding evidence every day
- 38:50Speaker 2: that completely disproves as in we were way older and
- 38:53Speaker 2: more advanced did that modern time tells us? And when
- 38:58Speaker 2: I was younger, I wanted to into archaeology because I
- 39:02Speaker 2: was like, yes, you know, I want to be in
- 39:03Speaker 2: Indiana Jones. And then I realized that in certain sectors
- 39:06Speaker 2: of it, there's like one like book if you would
- 39:09Speaker 2: of this is how the human the human timeline is,
- 39:12Speaker 2: and you can't go outside of that. And I'm like, well,
- 39:15Speaker 2: that takes the fun away from like discovering something new.
- 39:19Speaker 1: They did that with the Clovis first stuff. They did
- 39:21Speaker 1: like it's Clovis first, and then they dug down another
- 39:23Speaker 1: couple of meters and found another one where they were
- 39:25Speaker 1: cracking like mammoth bones. You're like, wow, you know, you
- 39:27Speaker 1: the same thing that just happened with the Pyramids. But
- 39:29Speaker 1: they just found the Great Pyramids.
- 39:32Speaker 2: And I've been keeping up with that very close.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on rug and it's just like you sound
- 39:40Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's not That was when
- 39:42Speaker 1: I knew that, like I have a problem with science.
- 39:43Speaker 1: And then COVID came and that's a whole other thing.
- 39:45Speaker 1: But like I knew that like Egyptologists would they say
- 39:49Speaker 1: you can't come and do any type of like scientific
- 39:51Speaker 1: studies on this stuff, and You're just.
- 39:52Speaker 2: Like, well, what are you hiding?
- 39:55Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's something to be hidden if you're
- 39:58Speaker 1: telling me, you know. And so we're like, okay, we'll
- 40:00Speaker 1: just do it for space.
- 40:03Speaker 2: And then here in I think close to Michigan, that area, uh,
- 40:08Speaker 2: they recently found human footprints that theoretically predate what we
- 40:13Speaker 2: believe the first person to walk or the first person
- 40:17Speaker 2: to walk in that area was, and I'm just like,
- 40:20Speaker 2: how can we start finding all this evidence and continuously
- 40:23Speaker 2: find it? But all the scientists, all the important people
- 40:26Speaker 2: are like, no, that's not that's fake, that's pseudo.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Well they opened Pandora's box, dude, they opened Pandora's box.
- 40:32Speaker 1: And that's why they're trying to shut down free speech
- 40:34Speaker 1: and even platforms like YouTube, Like this is going to
- 40:36Speaker 1: go on in others. You can't say certain words, and
- 40:38Speaker 1: it's like, okay, there's certain things you don't talk about.
- 40:39Speaker 1: Of course, you don't talk about the big R word,
- 40:42Speaker 1: the big R word. You don't you know, you don't
- 40:44Speaker 1: hate nobody. Oh, that's fine, but you should be able
- 40:46Speaker 1: to say, you know, like that that someone got off
- 40:48Speaker 1: by using the word it starts with a K. But no,
- 40:51Speaker 1: you can't say that either now, and it's kind of
- 40:52Speaker 1: like not even on the list. And you're like, so
- 40:55Speaker 1: now every time someone says that, I'm gonna go okay,
- 40:57Speaker 1: you know Mark minute, you know, twelve fifty two said that,
- 41:00Speaker 1: and it's it's it's ridiculous. So they've opened the box.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Uh.
- 41:04Speaker 1: I do think the dead Internet is a thing, you know,
- 41:07Speaker 1: if you just keeps repeating after you go past, like
- 41:09Speaker 1: the first three pages. They're trying to quell it any
- 41:12Speaker 1: way they can, and you know, like hopefully you know,
- 41:15Speaker 1: this underground movement of people like yourself, I am, many others.
- 41:19Speaker 1: This this stuff kind of comes lighter, but it makes
- 41:21Speaker 1: people think a little bit more than what they've been
- 41:23Speaker 1: taught in school, which is, you know, just Rockefeller stuff
- 41:26Speaker 1: that they're just you know, trying to get you ready
- 41:27Speaker 1: for the you know, the workday.
- 41:30Speaker 2: And it's interesting you say that because of two recent
- 41:33Speaker 2: things that have happened, so uh, not to get off
- 41:35Speaker 2: on the subject, but.
- 41:36Speaker 3: Where we're going mat the the new Google AI that
- 41:41Speaker 3: they've created, So a few years ago, right before that,
- 41:46Speaker 3: way before this, when they first came out with Google
- 41:49Speaker 3: Earth to where you could go in it it turns
- 41:51Speaker 3: your entire screen and you could like view multiple places,
- 41:54Speaker 3: you can view space and stuff like that.
- 41:56Speaker 2: There were a few people that that was their recognization. Okay,
- 42:00Speaker 2: we're fully in a simulation. Right now, we're repeating that
- 42:04Speaker 2: all over again because now with the AI that they
- 42:06Speaker 2: have that Google has, it's making people believe that we
- 42:10Speaker 2: are fully in like fully in a simulation. And the
- 42:15Speaker 2: reason I bring it up is because multiple people have
- 42:19Speaker 2: always stated that the history always repeats itself over and
- 42:22Speaker 2: over and over again. If that's true, COVID would basically
- 42:27Speaker 2: be the equivalent and human history of the plague. At
- 42:30Speaker 2: least the first two years would be the bubonic plag
- 42:33Speaker 2: because what did everybody do for the first time and
- 42:35Speaker 2: sometimes their entire lifetime. They had no other choice but
- 42:39Speaker 2: to stay at home and explore things that you would
- 42:43Speaker 2: never be able.
- 42:43Speaker 1: To explore it. Go for a buddy, go for it.
- 42:48Speaker 2: It's like the full on It's like the modern day Renaissance.
- 42:52Speaker 2: You had people that discovered for the very first time.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Oh wait, I'm really good at this. Oh wait, I
- 42:57Speaker 2: can do this. And it's all because the society standard
- 43:01Speaker 2: and we always have to work, we always have to
- 43:03Speaker 2: go to this. It all shut down.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it was a little bit more personal, dude.
- 43:08Speaker 1: It was like I had a really really bad I
- 43:10Speaker 1: had it. I was in German. I lived in Germany
- 43:12Speaker 1: at the time, and it hit me like I got
- 43:14Speaker 1: the first wave. So it knocked me down for like
- 43:16Speaker 1: four or five weeks, and there was a point where
- 43:18Speaker 1: I was really bad off, well not really bad off
- 43:20Speaker 1: like a lot of people, but I felt like, well,
- 43:22Speaker 1: this could go real bad and the acceptance of my demise,
- 43:26Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that acceptance, like you know,
- 43:28Speaker 1: I'm this is this is this, maybe it you know
- 43:30Speaker 1: what I mean. And then coming out of the other
- 43:31Speaker 1: side of that, like was also like a renaissance for
- 43:35Speaker 1: me in my life. And that's one of the reasons
- 43:37Speaker 1: I mean that I moved to Mexico. You know. They
- 43:39Speaker 1: were like, you got to take this, and I'm like, no,
- 43:41Speaker 1: I don't. And uh, me and my ex wife moved
- 43:44Speaker 1: down here and bought some land out in the woods,
- 43:46Speaker 1: and uh, you know, if it happens again, I'm okay.
- 43:50Speaker 1: And you know I'm scratching, but you know what I mean,
- 43:53Speaker 1: at least I'm free, you know what I mean, I'm free, dude.
- 43:56Speaker 2: And what's weird about COVID is like my partner he
- 44:00Speaker 2: used to work in a landscape, so like he was
- 44:03Speaker 2: all around people all the time. He got COVID twice.
- 44:07Speaker 2: I never got it. I don't know why, but I
- 44:10Speaker 2: never got it. And that fascinates me because I'm like,
- 44:13Speaker 2: I took care of him. I want like, there's so
- 44:16Speaker 2: much about COVID and everything that fascinates me so much
- 44:19Speaker 2: because I'm just yeah, there's there's so much here, but
- 44:23Speaker 2: yet nobody. A lot of people don't want to talk
- 44:25Speaker 2: about it. And then especially well it's like go ahead,
- 44:31Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Well yeah, just you know, there was it was part
- 44:34Speaker 1: of the whole thing to begin with. They've talked you know,
- 44:36Speaker 1: of course, you know, you know butt head with the
- 44:38Speaker 1: orange skin. There was talking about all the chinas IRUs,
- 44:41Speaker 1: which is a way of discrediting why saying it that way. Remember,
- 44:46Speaker 1: you couldn't say it came out of China because that
- 44:49Speaker 1: was considered you know, racist. They would say, go down
- 44:51Speaker 1: to Chinatown. And and then the propaganda came out of
- 44:54Speaker 1: China with all the you know, the people fallowing like
- 44:56Speaker 1: flies on the streets, and then only went to eighty
- 44:58Speaker 1: six thousand, and they think now it's probably more like
- 45:01Speaker 1: two hundred and three hundred thousand. There's so many lies
- 45:04Speaker 1: in the seats around that. But I think the most
- 45:07Speaker 1: affecting has had is on the children, and you know,
- 45:09Speaker 1: like children that are like my daughter was three and
- 45:12Speaker 1: we always we me and my ex wife were very
- 45:15Speaker 1: adamant about not wearing masks. We would fight every tooth
- 45:19Speaker 1: and nail everywhere we could to not do that. So
- 45:22Speaker 1: because in the way the children are effect is because
- 45:24Speaker 1: of the social aspects of not meeting other children, being
- 45:27Speaker 1: able to play, and probably the worst part is not
- 45:30Speaker 1: being able to recognize facial expressions. They try to take
- 45:33Speaker 1: They try to take our like the auras, because the
- 45:37Speaker 1: part of your face is connected to the soul through
- 45:39Speaker 1: the eyes and it's like all there, and it's like
- 45:41Speaker 1: they took that fromage and in your distance and all that.
- 45:44Speaker 1: It was a it was a it was a psychological
- 45:46Speaker 1: effort as well as it was some other type of
- 45:48Speaker 1: controlling method that they were trying to do.
- 45:50Speaker 2: And with that with taking away computer computers to the
- 45:58Speaker 2: exact same thing. Because again I was born in the nineties,
- 46:03Speaker 2: so like we all remember where what life was like
- 46:07Speaker 2: before the internet, before we could and it reminds me
- 46:11Speaker 2: of an interview that I've done with somebody. But they
- 46:13Speaker 2: call it the great blessing and the great curse, which
- 46:16Speaker 2: is technology because to a degree, we have the modern
- 46:19Speaker 2: day interpretation of having the Acasia records at our fingertips.
- 46:23Speaker 2: Any knowledge you need, you can find it on the Internet.
- 46:26Speaker 2: But as a species that's never really had it that
- 46:29Speaker 2: we were aware of, we don't know how to properly
- 46:31Speaker 2: use it and now cell phones, it's basically an extension
- 46:35Speaker 2: of us. We get to personalize it to the point
- 46:38Speaker 2: where like if you leave your phone and you leave
- 46:40Speaker 2: the house and you leave it at home, you'll randomly
- 46:42Speaker 2: get that like sensation that a buzzed or something like
- 46:44Speaker 2: that in your pocket. It literally is a like an
- 46:48Speaker 2: extension of us, and I think that's one of the
- 46:51Speaker 2: main reasons that stuff has gotten weird. And then society
- 46:55Speaker 2: is like, hey, we need to go full on into AI. No, no,
- 46:58Speaker 2: we don't. We need to go back to the real
- 47:00Speaker 2: We need to that's off the land and all of that.
- 47:04Speaker 1: You ever heard this song, a song by a band
- 47:06Speaker 1: called a Perfect Circle called Disillusioned. That's one of the
- 47:09Speaker 1: most beautiful songs I've ever heard.
- 47:11Speaker 2: You have, no, I haven't, but I write it down
- 47:15Speaker 2: and look it up.
- 47:15Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, one of my favorite. You know, Tool,
- 47:18Speaker 1: the band Tool, I'm sure, yeah, yeah, Okay. So the
- 47:21Speaker 1: singer of that, he has two other things. One is
- 47:23Speaker 1: Pussifer once called a Perfect Circle and Pusifer listened to
- 47:27Speaker 1: a Grand Canyon. That's another one. Grand Canyon, great song.
- 47:30Speaker 1: But that song is essentially guys, it's about like the
- 47:33Speaker 1: separation of like you know, we are. It's a dopamine
- 47:37Speaker 1: hit being connected to this thing at all times. And
- 47:40Speaker 1: there's a part where it's the chorus but it slows
- 47:42Speaker 1: down to this piano role. It's gorgeous. I don't know
- 47:44Speaker 1: how they compose it so beautifully and one of my
- 47:46Speaker 1: favorite songs ever. And it's just like time to put
- 47:48Speaker 1: the silicon a session down, take a look around, find
- 47:52Speaker 1: our way into silence, Lie Souphine, and away with our
- 47:55Speaker 1: back to the grounds this and reconnect to the resonance.
- 47:58Speaker 1: Now you were never an island. It's fucking wow. It's like,
- 48:03Speaker 1: let's go.
- 48:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:05Speaker 1: This is like it came out during that time, during
- 48:07Speaker 1: the whole COVID thing to kind of make that connection,
- 48:09Speaker 1: and it's exactly the message I needed to hear. And
- 48:12Speaker 1: you know, I started, like you know, taking my shoes
- 48:15Speaker 1: off and grounding myself. And I was always in the forest.
- 48:18Speaker 1: I used to live right next to the forest in Germany.
- 48:19Speaker 1: It's a big I love the forest and I'm always
- 48:21Speaker 1: in the forest when possible, And it was just what
- 48:24Speaker 1: I needed at the time, And like you know, maybe
- 48:26Speaker 1: you guys need at this time. You feel this what
- 48:29Speaker 1: Lotus is trying to say, is this disconnection from the biology,
- 48:33Speaker 1: and like now we're like infusing it in this Like
- 48:36Speaker 1: what's what's the word I'm looking for? Like a cyborg
- 48:38Speaker 1: type thing where we're half electronics. I mean, that's even
- 48:41Speaker 1: what glasses are to an extent. It's like to make
- 48:44Speaker 1: you see better that we put in. It's like robotic almost,
- 48:49Speaker 1: and it's important to get back to that. What would
- 48:51Speaker 1: you suggest to people to get back there, to find
- 48:53Speaker 1: that piece, to find that center, to get grounded, back
- 48:55Speaker 1: to mother.
- 48:56Speaker 2: Nature and all that I would suggest. So for one
- 49:00Speaker 2: I started, I came out with this concept, so like
- 49:03Speaker 2: you can take this concept and work into what you do.
- 49:06Speaker 2: I'm an amateur photographer and my partner went through a
- 49:10Speaker 2: specific type of journey and during that journey I needed
- 49:16Speaker 2: something to kind of pull me away and kind of
- 49:18Speaker 2: ground myself. And through that, I decided that I was
- 49:22Speaker 2: gonna basically take at least five pictures a day, so
- 49:28Speaker 2: create something to where it gets you outside, whether that
- 49:32Speaker 2: is just sitting out on your front porch, because I
- 49:33Speaker 2: have a goorri phobia, so me leaving my house it's
- 49:35Speaker 2: a huge deal. But with my yard, you know, I'm
- 49:37Speaker 2: cool with. But to try to get yourself out and
- 49:40Speaker 2: to unplug and to turn it off. Whether that's reading
- 49:43Speaker 2: a book, whether that's just going outside and just sitting
- 49:45Speaker 2: down and just connecting with the world around us. The
- 49:49Speaker 2: one thing that hasn't really changed as much as society has.
- 49:53Speaker 2: It's the bugs, It's the crickets, it's the leaves, is
- 49:55Speaker 2: the air. And if anybody doesn't believe this and you
- 49:59Speaker 2: need to go, rea start you totally. Can you sleeping?
- 50:02Speaker 2: You going camping for three nights and sleeping on the ground.
- 50:05Speaker 2: It will completely reorganize, not reorganized, but kind of rebalance
- 50:09Speaker 2: out the eternal clocks that we all have in us.
- 50:13Speaker 2: When people work in the soil as farmers, you messing
- 50:17Speaker 2: around on a chemical level, it releases endorphins inside of us.
- 50:21Speaker 2: So if you're feeling like your ADHD or your mind's
- 50:25Speaker 2: constantly racing and it's just all too much, just like
- 50:28Speaker 2: in COVID where we just cut everything off because breaking news,
- 50:31Speaker 2: breaking news, breaking news, go outside, whether that's sitting, whether
- 50:35Speaker 2: that's having a small area where you can grow a
- 50:38Speaker 2: single plant, talk to that plant and just reconnect with nature.
- 50:42Speaker 2: And I'm telling you it will completely change your entire world.
- 50:45Speaker 1: Absolutely. Man I couldn't have said it better. It is,
- 50:48Speaker 1: you know, you find find a hobby that you enjoy,
- 50:50Speaker 1: like something that's really hard, like learning a new language.
- 50:52Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still I speak German, but I'm in
- 50:54Speaker 1: a process of learning Spanish. So it's very hard. Find
- 50:58Speaker 1: something that's difficult to do in anything that's really worth
- 51:01Speaker 1: doing is difficult to do. That helps, uh, be physical,
- 51:04Speaker 1: be physical outside, you know, kick your butt, you know,
- 51:08Speaker 1: get because you know, you can't separate the you know,
- 51:11Speaker 1: the body and the mind are or are like a
- 51:13Speaker 1: bipartisan thing where they both have to work in synchronicity.
- 51:16Speaker 1: And when this isn't moving and you're eating cheetos and
- 51:19Speaker 1: looking at you know, Netflix or whatever you're you're kind
- 51:22Speaker 1: of shutting off the body. And what happens you get
- 51:24Speaker 1: into this cycle, into this rhythm because I've I've you know,
- 51:26Speaker 1: I've been the therapy. I've dealt with stuff. I still
- 51:28Speaker 1: deal with stuff. Helped me out, you as army, I'll
- 51:30Speaker 1: put my paper again. It's been a year and a
- 51:31Speaker 1: half anyhow, but it does help, you know, you know,
- 51:37Speaker 1: I work a lot of physical labor here. Like if
- 51:39Speaker 1: I'm upset and you know, you know, my guy, you know,
- 51:41Speaker 1: guy gives me some works some time. It calls me,
- 51:43Speaker 1: hey man, you know when you want to dig some holes,
- 51:44Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go. And uh, it's just it feels
- 51:47Speaker 1: good even you know, being a hundred and was one
- 51:49Speaker 1: hundred and seven a day.
- 51:52Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean we haven't here, we haven't got
- 51:55Speaker 2: that high. But oh yeah, across the.
- 51:58Speaker 1: Path from you, I read across. I'm on the Yucatan Peninsula, dude. Yeah, dude,
- 52:04Speaker 1: on the whole. I'm down here. I'm down here in
- 52:06Speaker 1: the dark Witch country dad. You know, like the real
- 52:09Speaker 1: the old Mayan blood and meso America. Yeah, you know,
- 52:13Speaker 1: you know, the ritual sacrifice and running over you know,
- 52:16Speaker 1: every two seconds in the woods you find you know,
- 52:18Speaker 1: Mayan ruins, which is for real, dude, you know, I mean.
- 52:22Speaker 2: I wouldn't even know. Like places like that fascinate me.
- 52:26Speaker 2: Everybody focuses on America, but like the UK all these
- 52:29Speaker 2: other places where you can still stumble upon these ancient ruins.
- 52:33Speaker 2: I'm just like, I would never be in my house.
- 52:36Speaker 2: I would constantly be outside.
- 52:38Speaker 1: Yeah it's hot, dude, but it's it's the people who
- 52:41Speaker 1: are awesome. Uh. They're different, man, They're different. They're not
- 52:44Speaker 1: they're they're they're more family oriented. It's really cool. It's
- 52:47Speaker 1: a really cool place to be.
- 52:49Speaker 2: Uh.
- 52:49Speaker 1: It's also a little bit like unnerving, especial when I
- 52:51Speaker 1: first got here. Man, I know, I try to drive
- 52:52Speaker 1: from the airport at a hotel and that drive, Man,
- 52:57Speaker 1: They're got to just go. And I'm like, where's the traffic?
- 53:02Speaker 1: Why is the motorcycles passing me on all sides? And
- 53:04Speaker 1: I look like, you know, And now I'm like, you know,
- 53:06Speaker 1: I just spin the wheel and I move out through traffic.
- 53:09Speaker 1: You know. But uh, it's been quite a journey for me, man,
- 53:13Speaker 1: and and and the journey is not only outside guys.
- 53:15Speaker 1: I mean, like it can help you sometimes, you know,
- 53:19Speaker 1: throw your uh you know, what do you think about this?
- 53:20Speaker 1: Loads like you know, you have a daily routine that
- 53:22Speaker 1: you do. You know you do this or scratch a button,
- 53:24Speaker 1: drink your coffee, you go take a shower, throw that
- 53:26Speaker 1: in reverse, splash water in your face, look in the
- 53:29Speaker 1: mirror and say you are you are the you know,
- 53:32Speaker 1: you are the the main character in the story that
- 53:35Speaker 1: is yours and love everyone. Do that say that to
- 53:38Speaker 1: yourself about ten times self affirmation.
- 53:40Speaker 2: With with structured and routine sometimes we we repeat it
- 53:45Speaker 2: so much that we become a groundhog where we're just
- 53:48Speaker 2: repeating the same thing over and over again. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 53:51Speaker 2: throws into a far You got to break out of that, completely,
- 53:55Speaker 2: break out of that and just do something different. And
- 53:58Speaker 2: I promise you the event, Sure they're out there.
- 54:01Speaker 1: Oh what do you think is waiting for you? The father?
- 54:03Speaker 1: You go into this? Are you gonna? Are you gonna, like,
- 54:05Speaker 1: you know, break this stigmatism of like, you know, because
- 54:07Speaker 1: people always think of like, you know, witches and things
- 54:10Speaker 1: like that. They always think of this like Warlock, which
- 54:13Speaker 1: I watched a really awesome, actually great witch movie. It
- 54:16Speaker 1: was really dark and sick and twisted, but I enjoyed it.
- 54:20Speaker 1: But it's not only that, it's something else. It's like,
- 54:22Speaker 1: you know, Wicked is more of a religion based thing
- 54:24Speaker 1: with manna and all this. Yeah, I know a little bit.
- 54:26Speaker 1: I know a little bit about it. Uh, never got
- 54:28Speaker 1: too much into it because it's just didn't interest me
- 54:30Speaker 1: as much. But you know, how do we break the
- 54:33Speaker 1: stigmatism of that? You know? People?
- 54:36Speaker 2: One question?
- 54:38Speaker 1: So sure?
- 54:39Speaker 2: For one with Hollywood, Hollywood has ruined so much stuff
- 54:43Speaker 2: because if you watch all these movies and shows to
- 54:45Speaker 2: a degree and you think you're going to experience that.
- 54:48Speaker 2: Trust me, I grew up watching Charmed and I thought
- 54:51Speaker 2: at the age of fourteen, I was gonna have demons
- 54:53Speaker 2: pop in. I'm gonna have to go glass at them
- 54:55Speaker 2: and potions. None of that stuff happens.
- 54:57Speaker 1: But the craft, dude, the craft. That was my shot though.
- 55:04Speaker 2: But with online, especially in the witchy community, you're going
- 55:08Speaker 2: to come across what I call the witchy expert. Nobody's
- 55:12Speaker 2: an expert in witchcraft. Secondly, they focus on witch so much,
- 55:16Speaker 2: but when it comes to actually practicing and getting into it,
- 55:19Speaker 2: it's the craft because every witch is going to be different.
- 55:22Speaker 2: There is no there is no one book that says, Okay,
- 55:25Speaker 2: you have to do all of this to be a witch.
- 55:28Speaker 2: Anybody can be a witch as long as you put
- 55:30Speaker 2: the time, energy, and effort into it. It does take
- 55:32Speaker 2: repetitiveness because again, we can read as much as we
- 55:36Speaker 2: as much as we can, but then you have to
- 55:38Speaker 2: take that application or that knowledge and then apply that
- 55:41Speaker 2: into your waking life. And with me, I practice different
- 55:46Speaker 2: different styles of magic. It's what I call it. I
- 55:48Speaker 2: practice conjure, applation, folk magic, a little bit of death magic,
- 55:52Speaker 2: and then my own spin of it. Because I've been
- 55:54Speaker 2: in witchcraft I think twenty one twenty three years total,
- 55:58Speaker 2: so there's a lot of the times that I've kind
- 56:01Speaker 2: of went completely back to the drag board. I've went
- 56:04Speaker 2: back to the beginner book and be like, all right,
- 56:05Speaker 2: I need to restart. But most importantly, if you're coming
- 56:08Speaker 2: from this in a religious aspect, you need to kind
- 56:11Speaker 2: of in some degree work on the religious trauma that
- 56:15Speaker 2: you experienced and to word the kind of unlearning all
- 56:19Speaker 2: of the things that you learned in that and then
- 56:21Speaker 2: go about it and.
- 56:23Speaker 1: Different way, maybe even look.
- 56:24Speaker 2: At it a different way because.
- 56:26Speaker 1: We're talking about the pine Cone and and and the
- 56:28Speaker 1: Vatican and things like that. Just just realized, like, you know,
- 56:31Speaker 1: even like the original concept of the word Jesus is
- 56:34Speaker 1: uh the you know, the matric mushroom with God's seems
- 56:37Speaker 1: on top of you might uh mark a legro. I
- 56:40Speaker 1: can't think it was middle name, but the mushroom in
- 56:42Speaker 1: the Holy Cross, like there's there's there is a lot
- 56:45Speaker 1: to the history of Christianity that kind of leans sadly
- 56:49Speaker 1: enough for people who are really devout. I don't mean
- 56:51Speaker 1: to harm anybody in that direction.
- 56:54Speaker 2: And the way that I look at that one thing.
- 56:57Speaker 2: The way that I look at that religion in general
- 56:59Speaker 2: is Jesus. He was a teacher. I believe all religions
- 57:03Speaker 2: have truths in them, but there is no one set
- 57:06Speaker 2: religion that has all of those truths. It's up for
- 57:09Speaker 2: us to discover those truths.
- 57:11Speaker 1: How could you even write that down? Though I'm saying,
- 57:16Speaker 1: I really cut you off, Like, say, you have this, Okay,
- 57:19Speaker 1: if you were to take a psychedelic experience, which I have,
- 57:22Speaker 1: they are very powerful and they're not for everyone, and
- 57:25Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that you do it, but if you
- 57:27Speaker 1: were to look into it very heavily and get a
- 57:29Speaker 1: very very close friend to people with you and help
- 57:31Speaker 1: you along the way, someone who's experienced preferably. But if
- 57:35Speaker 1: you have that experience, how do you write that down?
- 57:38Speaker 1: You would write it down and folklore and f through
- 57:43Speaker 1: like the yeah, and you know this was there was
- 57:48Speaker 1: you know, I think it was a philosopher. I think
- 57:49Speaker 1: he was just a cool dude, love thy neighbor, bro,
- 57:52Speaker 1: you know, treat your love your enemies, keith, you know
- 57:55Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you know, and then and it's
- 57:58Speaker 1: just kind of we considered like a hippi, which is
- 58:01Speaker 1: some people might seem as being you know, like a
- 58:02Speaker 1: mean but I'm not trying to be mean. What I'm
- 58:04Speaker 1: saying is like, try to look at it in a
- 58:08Speaker 1: different way, maybe maybe not unlearned, just kind of relearn it.
- 58:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and more than also with that a a different perspective.
- 58:17Speaker 2: Like imagine if you had a set of glasses you
- 58:19Speaker 2: could put on during your research that would completely change
- 58:22Speaker 2: things just a little bit to see the different pictures.
- 58:25Speaker 2: It's like art, abstract art. Everybody is going to see
- 58:28Speaker 2: something differently, but the person who painted it is going
- 58:31Speaker 2: to see that one story or multiple stories. It all
- 58:34Speaker 2: is in the eye the beholder. And when it comes
- 58:36Speaker 2: to witchcraft, yes, there's this word that a lot of
- 58:40Speaker 2: witches used or some witch is used, which is called gatekeeping,
- 58:43Speaker 2: which is, hey, you don't need to know this right now.
- 58:46Speaker 2: There's a lot of that. But at the same time,
- 58:48Speaker 2: before you deep dive into witchcraft, depending on what you're doing,
- 58:51Speaker 2: if you're doing basic spells to get more money to
- 58:53Speaker 2: get a job, you're fine. But if you're going out
- 58:56Speaker 2: and you're trying to consort with spirits or you're trying
- 58:58Speaker 2: to summon something that is old, you need to be
- 59:00Speaker 2: able to read and or sense the energy that you're
- 59:05Speaker 2: calling in, because if not, that's the story of a
- 59:09Speaker 2: person left religion or some other thing and they got
- 59:12Speaker 2: into witchcraft and they didn't do the proper research. They
- 59:16Speaker 2: summoned something, but they couldn't sense that they actually summoned it.
- 59:19Speaker 2: Their lives got a little chaotic, and they blame witchcraft.
- 59:22Speaker 2: It's not witchcraft, right. Everybody has the ability to do it.
- 59:25Speaker 2: Our entire body, everybody on earth has the same compounds
- 59:29Speaker 2: that the entire universe is made out of. We're made
- 59:32Speaker 2: of stars. There you don't know that we can. And
- 59:36Speaker 2: I look at witchcraft as it is the ability to
- 59:39Speaker 2: learn how to manipulate the ions and particles that make
- 59:43Speaker 2: up our world. We're not fully manipulating them, we're just
- 59:46Speaker 2: nudging them to get a more desired outcome. But you
- 59:49Speaker 2: have to be able to sense those outcomes. And since
- 59:53Speaker 2: that energy that you're tapping into, anybody has it, and
- 59:57Speaker 2: we've all had those moments you're the gut inste your
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: intuition where you're like, you know what, I'm not going
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: to go in today. I have a weird feeling. And
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: then there was a disaster that was basically.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: Yeah, the two things like the witch, which is I
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: hope I remember the second moment that because I just
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: had it, but that anyhow, But the word which has
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: a connotation to it. It's kind of like the word
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: pretty funny that the word connotation is in there as well,
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: but it has a connotation to it, like like the
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: word detention has this feeling to it. So it's like
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: in your mind as a word, it could be it
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: could be seen another way, just like the word God
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: has a thing to it that people, you know, some
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: people who've seen the worst parts of humanity when they
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: use the worst parts of religion to do awful things,
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: and then you see the beauty in it as well.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: But I guess the question I would like to post
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: to you, know, being who you are and the experiences
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: that you've had in your life and the things that
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: you study and practice and help other people with, what
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: would what would be your definition of God?
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: So my definition, that's actually a really good question, huh.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: My definition of would be a sharder echo of every
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: person in the world altogether, So in other words, almost
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: a disco ball, so except for their shards. So it's
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: like imagine one structure, or we'll say a tree, and
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: that tree has shattered. Each shatter is a single piece
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: of what makes up a soul. So I believe to
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: a degree, certain souls and you may hear the term,
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: oh you're an old soul, it means that a fragment
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: of your soul has already done this rodeo multiple times.
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: And I believe it's almost like human species in itself
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: are the humans. It's like we have oh what is
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: it called. I can't think of the name, but it's
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: like we completely spaced our entire everything that we know amnesia.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: It's like we all have amnesia and the individual points
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: of our lives because we're all separate, but at the
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: same time we're very intermingled. I believe it's almost like
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: so outside of humans. Imagine if our entire system was
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: inside of a bigger body. I know it's going to
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: sound weird. A bigger body and that body is trying
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: to understand what it is. Oh yeah, okay, is what
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: is that is? That's very all trying to figure it out.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool, man. I would say different like
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: we are we're we are. We are a subjective conscious
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: like reflecting upon itself objectively, trying to understand itself. And
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: that's like that, like when you're looking out into the
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: universe and when you're looking at into the souls and
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: the eyes of everything in everyone, animal, plants, everything and
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: the like, you are looking at yourself as a reflection
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: of you, you but like just different and and if
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: we all did that, the world would be just a
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: wonderful place. But we have these thumbs. We like, we
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: have these thumbs and we like to make mechanical parts
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: and we like.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: To do also, I don't understand this. We're the only
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: species that, yes, we we have this knowledge, so we
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: like to create things that could completely wipe us off
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: the face of the earth. I don't understand that. I'm
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: just like just because it doesn't mean we should.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: But there's one more thing that I definitely want to
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: make make sure that people understand. For years, like I
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: was caught up in that, like you know, you're a
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: bad human. Uh, you know, you're like a feeder, you know, Uh,
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: you shouldn't have children. It's like it's in this background
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: that you have no value, you know what I mean,
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: we're just suspected us floating through space. And but but
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: the beauty is to me that there is that spec
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: at us. Dude, you know what I mean, and that
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: life doesn't happen to you, it happens for you exactly.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: And the ways that I look at that and one
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: thing that completely changed the way that I see the world,
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: which is, yes, we're the living, we're experiencing this chapter.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: But at the same time, there are people before you
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: that in some way, shape or form, you're an extension of.
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: So like, true enough, we may not understand the lives
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: that we live, like, I've been through a lot of shit,
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: but it also made me who I am today. And
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: if I didn't experience all of that, I would not
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: be I would not be the person that I am.
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: But I also wouldn't be able to help as many
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: people as I can. So do I understand the whole thing? No,
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: it's chaos, it's perfection, it's chaos, it's everything that once.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: Yep, that's the beauty. Like if you were to think
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: of a reality or something, if you were just to
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: try to think of it, it couldn't be crazier than
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: the one that you are currently am personally. Yep, it's
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: impossible that Okay, sure, please please go ahead, go ahead, Yeah, dude,
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: please add on. I was going to change it over
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: to the next thing.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, with witchcraft a stigmatism behind it,
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: Oh we're bad. There is no bad, there is no evil.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: It's nature loving exactly. It is intention. I wanted to
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: highlight that because some people believe that witchcraft is just intention.
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: It's not. It's a little bit more. But with this aspect,
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: it is just the intention of the person. Nobody is evil. Yes,
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: there are evil people out there, but they choose to
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: become evil. To three, well, yeah, we all have that
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: within us.
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: We all have that within us. You know, you have that.
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: It's like the you know the old cartoons with the
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: two little devil's ones white, Well, the devil's red and
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: he's in your left ear, very important guys, and then
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: the white ones on the right shoulder, and they're like,
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: don't do that, you're bad. It's kind of like that,
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: and everyone has that in their head. And for the
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: most part, we choose to do the good thing. But
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: there's people who just don't have that ability sometimes. But yeah,
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: so before I get you up out of here, my friend,
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: this has been an incredible conversation. Something that you sparked
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: in my mind. That made me want to ask you
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: what your thoughts were on that just came to me.
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: Is that the ideal witchcraft and what they're doing and
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: manipulating the environment through ions, through the through the in
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: the material world or the you know, anti material or whatever,
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: the ether, you know, all these kind of things to
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: give it a little more sciencey middle there. But if
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: you go that's like more Western style. An Eastern style
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: is a little bit more like you know, your your
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: monks and your Buddhists and your and your people who
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: can like disappear when they meditate and go into these
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: deep you know, meditation practices where they connected themselves and others.
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: It's basically just an echo or an iteration of the
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: same thing. It just came to MEO, do you think
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: about that?
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: I believe it's auto present true and that kind of
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: steps down to to a degree, to a degree. And
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: what I mean by that is so you have that aspect,
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: the Eastern aspect, and you have the Western aspects. But
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: at the end of the day, nobody is questioning it.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: It's like that saying that went around online. Whether it's
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: your intuition, whether it is a prayer, whether it's a miracle.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: No matter what it is, we're not questioning that it exists,
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: we are questioning what we call it. So monks and
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: Buddhists and all of them, they fully reached that level
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: through I don't want to say isolation, but more quieting
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: the mind. But there are also some people that you
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: kind of thrive in that chaos, You thrive in that adrenaline.
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: There are certain people that have jobs, military people and
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: stuff like that. Maybe not military people, but they thrive
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: with that adrenaline, with that speed, with that intensity. So
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: I think it's all about finding what kind of stems
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: the person, and then to break that down more when
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: it comes to the witch aspect, what fuels them for
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: some because in like Wickup they use to teach that
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: they still do to a degree. You're not supposed to
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: cast a spell or do anything if you're in a
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: very high intention of emotion. But at the same time,
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: it's like a doctor, a doctor or a surgeon, they
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: are confuled. They are literally they thrive on that chaos,
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: They thrive on that energy. So it all depends on
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: what you thrive in and what fuels that, right, if
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: that makes any sense, of.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: Course, ye, what you're trying to say, is we're all snowflakes. Dude.
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: It's cool, man, this is what I do. Man. I
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: really enjoyed talking to you, my friend, and uh, i'd
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: like to have you on maybe on the sometime in
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: the future. And just I just love to pick your mind.
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it's like.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Magisterias overlapping in the strangest way. But at the same time, Uh,
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: you know there's you know, just plet me disagreements, but
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: you know, why wouldn't you have that? It's isn't it
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: the fun part? Guys, we're trying to connect. Oh you're red,
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: I'm blue. A few Come on, guys, let's get it together.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: Let's get it together. I really appreciate it. Dude. Please
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: tell me one more time, or tell us one more
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: time where we can find you and how we can
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: get in contact with you.
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: Yes, on all platforms, fire loadus the Witch. You can
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: look me up and then email wise fireloadus the Witch
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: at gmail dot com.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: All right, man, thank you so very much for coming
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: on today, and I hope to have a fruit for
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: a relationship with you. Okay, well, one more second, Remember guys,
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: we are the I we are aware love you all
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: have a wonderful evening.
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