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- 2:14Speaker 3: Let's get into this week's podcast, which I'm building on
- 2:20Speaker 3: the business plans that I created for America and I'll
- 2:23Speaker 3: be getting I did one called the business Plan, the
- 2:25Speaker 3: Economic business Plan for Black America last week tied to
- 2:29Speaker 3: dream Ford, which was introduced on the fifty seventh anniversary
- 2:33Speaker 3: of doctor Martin King Junior's assassination, his memorial that we
- 2:37Speaker 3: did with doctor King's daughter, Bernici and Bernice A King
- 2:41Speaker 3: who's a board member of Operation Hope and a friend
- 2:43Speaker 3: and a partner in our work, and a bastaror Andrew Young,
- 2:47Speaker 3: who was on that balcony with doctor King who was assassinated,
- 2:49Speaker 3: and the Memphis Mayor Paul Young. We did that and
- 2:52Speaker 3: launched it. And there are other business plans that we
- 2:54Speaker 3: will get to. The business Plan for Latino Hispanic America,
- 2:58Speaker 3: the Business Plan for Women business Plan. These are economic
- 3:01Speaker 3: business plans for Native Americans and Rural America and Asians,
- 3:06Speaker 3: et cetera. I'm going to map all these out. But
- 3:09Speaker 3: as I thought about the last business plan, that's very opportunity.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Rich people are hurting right now. They are in pain,
- 3:17Speaker 3: they're frustrated, they are sometimes lacking confidence, and that needs
- 3:24Speaker 3: to be spoken to that like that has to be
- 3:26Speaker 3: addressed like that's real, right, and there's nothing wrong with you.
- 3:30Speaker 3: If you're feeling a certain kind of way right now,
- 3:33Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with you. In fact, if you're not
- 3:35Speaker 3: feeling a certain kind of way in the current environment,
- 3:39Speaker 3: then then something's wrong with you. If you're not feeling
- 3:42Speaker 3: a certain kind of way, there's reason if a bear
- 3:46Speaker 3: or a tiger is chasing you, or a lion is
- 3:49Speaker 3: chasing you and is within I don't know one hundred feet,
- 3:55Speaker 3: you should be petrified, like there's reason for that.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Fear is in your system. God put fear in your
- 4:02Speaker 3: system for a reason. Fight or flight your critical thinking skills.
- 4:08Speaker 3: But it should not overwhelm you. It should not paralyze you. Right,
- 4:11Speaker 3: It's something that should not define you. I take no
- 4:15Speaker 3: for vitamins.
- 4:16Speaker 1: That's me.
- 4:18Speaker 3: I've been doing so much with so little for so long.
- 4:21Speaker 3: I can almost do anything with nothing, right. I've said
- 4:25Speaker 3: over and over again, success is going from failure to
- 4:27Speaker 3: failure without loss of enthusiasm. My most prize trait that
- 4:36Speaker 3: I have of me, other than my spirituality, is my resiliency.
- 4:42Speaker 1: And that I never give up.
- 4:46Speaker 3: I just you know, I just brush it off, whatever
- 4:49Speaker 3: it is and know that God made me to win,
- 4:51Speaker 3: like God made you perfect and unique, perfectly unique. Right,
- 5:00Speaker 3: five fingers that you have on each hand are have
- 5:03Speaker 3: fingerprints which are not reproduced anywhere in the world. They're
- 5:06Speaker 3: unique to you. Is that amazing eight billion people on
- 5:09Speaker 3: the planet. There's nobody just like you. You just need
- 5:11Speaker 3: to find your specialness, find your gift, find your group.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Here's another one for you. And the title of this
- 5:18Speaker 3: podcast week episode is why smart people fail. Not When
- 5:25Speaker 3: smart people fail, you will fail. If you're if you're
- 5:28Speaker 3: trying to do anything, you're going to slip and fall.
- 5:30Speaker 3: You're going to fail. But failure is not a determination
- 5:33Speaker 3: of who you are. It's an outcome to an experiment,
- 5:36Speaker 3: that's all it is. So if you try anything, you're
- 5:40Speaker 3: gonna slip at fall, You're gonna fail. You're gonna fall
- 5:43Speaker 3: short of the glory of God. Because rainbows only follow storms.
- 5:47Speaker 3: You could not have a rainbow without a storm first.
- 5:51Speaker 3: It is a scientific fact. So I want you to
- 5:54Speaker 3: get used to failure, and I'm about to now show
- 5:58Speaker 3: you some examples and benefits of failure. You can't fall
- 6:03Speaker 3: from the floor, okay, and I'm going to share it
- 6:05Speaker 3: with you my own stories as I often do of
- 6:10Speaker 3: failure and why it has become something that I've ter,
- 6:18Speaker 3: I've interrelated, I've ingrained, I have I have you know,
- 6:23Speaker 3: interlaced into my life. Look, success is easy, going shopping
- 6:29Speaker 3: is easy. You know, Saluting you know your achievements is easy.
- 6:35Speaker 3: But you want to know what somebody's made of. Trip
- 6:38Speaker 3: them up, let them, let them fall, and see how
- 6:41Speaker 3: they get back up. Life is ten percent. This is
- 6:44Speaker 3: from my last book is Financial Literacy for all. Make
- 6:46Speaker 3: sure you get it. I've had six books. The book
- 6:48Speaker 3: Got from Nothing. It's all about my failures. But my book,
- 6:52Speaker 3: my first book was Love Leadership, and I talk about
- 6:57Speaker 3: indirectly failure. I say that, you know, believing in yourself
- 7:03Speaker 3: and not believing you're worthy to be yourself. I talk
- 7:09Speaker 3: about courage as being nothing more than your faith reaching
- 7:13Speaker 3: through your fear, displaying itself as action in your life.
- 7:17Speaker 3: I'm going to repeat that in this book, Love Leadership.
- 7:22Speaker 3: I talk about faith. The courage is nothing more than
- 7:25Speaker 3: your faith reaching through your fear, displaying itself as action
- 7:29Speaker 3: in your life. I go further and say that vulnerability
- 7:33Speaker 3: is not a weakness, it's a strength. But very few
- 7:38Speaker 3: of us are tough enough to be sold like see,
- 7:40Speaker 3: we have it backwards, right, And I want to teach
- 7:45Speaker 3: you courage, Okay, I want to teach you the power
- 7:50Speaker 3: of vulnerability, the power of transparency. It relieves so much
- 7:53Speaker 3: stress and pressure when you just acknowledge that you're human
- 7:58Speaker 3: and then you grow and build from there. Like again,
- 8:00Speaker 3: you can't fall from the floor. You can mess up
- 8:03Speaker 3: and screw up and not be a screw up. So
- 8:07Speaker 3: even the smartest people, here's the fact, number one, even
- 8:10Speaker 3: the smartest people in the world stumble. What separates them
- 8:17Speaker 3: is not the brains or are not the brains, it's
- 8:22Speaker 3: the bounce back. Okay, So we're going to dig into
- 8:31Speaker 3: some powerful truths. Smart people do fail, It's a fact,
- 8:36Speaker 3: and they fail a lot. The question isn't if you're
- 8:38Speaker 3: going to fail, it's what do you do after you
- 8:41Speaker 3: hit the ground. Let's get into that. So there's a myths.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Okay.
- 8:50Speaker 3: We live in a world and worships intelligence and degrees
- 8:53Speaker 3: and titles and IQ points intelligence. Perfect lives displayed on
- 9:02Speaker 3: say Instagram or or you know, TikTok or whatever. Okay,
- 9:08Speaker 3: seemingly perfect lives, but there is no perfect right, that's
- 9:11Speaker 3: a lie.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Okay.
- 9:14Speaker 3: The word person personality comes from the Latin word persona,
- 9:17Speaker 3: which literally translates quotation marks and in other words broadly speaking,
- 9:22Speaker 3: but translates into perform. So your personality is your performance
- 9:26Speaker 3: you're putting off for the world. It doesn't mean it's
- 9:28Speaker 3: a lie. It just means that it's separate from you.
- 9:31Speaker 3: It's it is, it is your character, it's your personality.
- 9:34Speaker 3: Yep again, to perform, Okay. And where when you meet somebody,
- 9:42Speaker 3: you're meeting them, you're meeting the best version of them often,
- 9:46Speaker 3: or you see somebody, you see seeing the very best, best,
- 9:49Speaker 3: best best version of them, right, and because they're going
- 9:53Speaker 3: to present to you the part of themselves that they
- 9:56Speaker 3: want you to be compelled by.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Right.
- 10:00Speaker 3: I like showing you who I am. I think that
- 10:02Speaker 3: you're going to be more impressed with my authenticity than
- 10:06Speaker 3: any game that I might have of showing you a
- 10:09Speaker 3: version of me that's just not true. And everybody knows
- 10:14Speaker 3: perfection doesn't exist. Everybody knows that somebody who says that
- 10:16Speaker 3: everything is going right in their life is lying.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Right.
- 10:19Speaker 3: We want to believe the hype, I guess, which is
- 10:21Speaker 3: why we keep falling for Charlatan's and fake and fake
- 10:27Speaker 3: this and fake that, But the reality is we're all
- 10:32Speaker 3: just trying the best we can. And I think the
- 10:35Speaker 3: real hero is the one that just keeps getting back up,
- 10:39Speaker 3: cannot get an amen. You hit me, you kick me,
- 10:41Speaker 3: you knock me down, and I just keep back. That's
- 10:44Speaker 3: why we always roote for that underdog in the fight,
- 10:48Speaker 3: in the prize fight, right, who just keeps getting back up.
- 10:51Speaker 3: So again, we live in this world the worst. Intelligence
- 10:54Speaker 3: and degrees and titles in IQ all important things, but
- 10:57Speaker 3: intelligence alone does not equal success. And Bassiar Andrew Young
- 11:01Speaker 3: want my personal hero. My mentor would say that he's met,
- 11:06Speaker 3: over the course of his life a whole series of
- 11:09Speaker 3: educated fools. They have all these degrees and can't do
- 11:12Speaker 3: anything and haven't done anything. They think that that being
- 11:16Speaker 3: smart enough and being smart is important, but they think
- 11:19Speaker 3: that that is enough, and it is not.
- 11:22Speaker 1: So.
- 11:23Speaker 3: There are Harvard graduates who are broke, and brilliant people
- 11:29Speaker 3: who are stuck in self doubt. The cemetery is full
- 11:33Speaker 3: of people with unfulfilled potential. I've met brilliant people who
- 11:38Speaker 3: are homeless, and I've met idiots and fools who are
- 11:41Speaker 3: massively successful. So intelligence alone is not enough. It's one
- 11:47Speaker 3: of the pieces. So here's one cheat sheet for you.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Success equals intelligence plus resilience plus agility plus grit.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Did you get that?
- 12:05Speaker 3: So if you have that combination, you are amazing. Right,
- 12:10Speaker 3: It's hard to hit a moving target or one that
- 12:14Speaker 3: just never gives up. My brother and friend, the hyper
- 12:18Speaker 3: hugely successful businessman Tony Wrestler, who happens to own the
- 12:22Speaker 3: Atlanta Hawks, is how some of you might know him,
- 12:26Speaker 3: but I know him for his business successes and his humanity.
- 12:29Speaker 3: He would say, And I can't give this quote exactly
- 12:31Speaker 3: because it's got some French terms in it. You figure
- 12:35Speaker 3: that out on your own. But Tony would say, I'm
- 12:37Speaker 3: gonna clean this up. He would say, if you don't quit,
- 12:42Speaker 3: you can't fail. If you don't quit, you can't fail.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Just keep at it, just keep getting up. Let's now
- 13:03Speaker 3: get into some actual stories of success and failure.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Including my own.
- 13:09Speaker 3: So let's talk about Steve Jobs, who I will add
- 13:14Speaker 3: and I didn't know Steve Jobs, but I've done enough
- 13:16Speaker 3: research to say one he was a genius, an absolute genius,
- 13:21Speaker 3: change the world for all of us. Two probably not
- 13:24Speaker 3: the greatest person on the planet, in other words, not
- 13:26Speaker 3: a really nice human being. It appears from all reports
- 13:31Speaker 3: not very philanthropic, did not believe in philanthropy, did not
- 13:34Speaker 3: have a personal foundation. His wife, his ex wife, is
- 13:37Speaker 3: now incredibly philanthropic, So God bless her for using his
- 13:42Speaker 3: large gest to heal the world. So, in other words,
- 13:47Speaker 3: I'm not advocating for Steve Jobs as a human being. Here,
- 13:50Speaker 3: I'm giving you an example of a faulty, maybe unhappy,
- 13:55Speaker 3: highly imperfect person who succeeded anyway and change the world.
- 14:01Speaker 3: But that's not the part of Steve Jobs that I
- 14:03Speaker 3: want you to focus on either. That's just I'm just
- 14:05Speaker 3: trying to break it down. So you get him off
- 14:07Speaker 3: of his idol perch, right, and you get him. I
- 14:11Speaker 3: want Steve Jobs to be approachable for you. I want
- 14:13Speaker 3: him to be somebody that you can reach out and
- 14:16Speaker 3: relate to. So the first thing I'll tell you about
- 14:18Speaker 3: Steve Jobs is he was fired from the company he started.
- 14:25Speaker 3: And I want you to think about that he created Apple.
- 14:28Speaker 3: Think about I mean I found an operation Hope, And
- 14:31Speaker 3: think about one day my board of directors, after thirty
- 14:34Speaker 3: years or whatever, a building this thing into a behemoth,
- 14:38Speaker 3: they just fire me. They have the right if with
- 14:40Speaker 3: the they have majority votes I'm the founder, chairman, and
- 14:44Speaker 3: chief ejective officer. They could fire me, and the board
- 14:47Speaker 3: of directors of Apple did fire Steve Jobs. But it
- 14:54Speaker 3: was the best thing that ever happened him. And this
- 14:55Speaker 3: is only one or two parts of the Steve Jobs story.
- 14:58Speaker 3: This is the one that you don't hear, but you could,
- 15:01Speaker 3: you might know about. But I'm gonna tell you this
- 15:04Speaker 3: when first, I'm gonna tell you the story of that.
- 15:06Speaker 3: I'm absolutely convinced you've never heard of heard about. The
- 15:10Speaker 3: second story, in my important, in my view, is more
- 15:13Speaker 3: stunning than the first. The first is pretty amazing. So
- 15:15Speaker 3: he builds Apple, grows it from nothing with woesny Ak
- 15:19Speaker 3: his co founder, He had a co founder, and at
- 15:24Speaker 3: some point loses confidence from the board of directors and
- 15:31Speaker 3: they fire him. He's often the wilderness of self doubt.
- 15:35Speaker 3: And he picks up a new idea, a company called Next,
- 15:41Speaker 3: And for about a decade, Next underperforms like Next was Next.
- 15:48Speaker 3: The world begins to question the brilliants of Steve Jobs
- 15:52Speaker 3: and and and and he begins to question himself importantly, again,
- 15:57Speaker 3: he never gave up. He then found some massive success
- 16:06Speaker 3: that I believe even more important than his Apple success,
- 16:09Speaker 3: at least to his net worth, because he sold a
- 16:11Speaker 3: lot of the Apple stock when he was fired from Apple,
- 16:16Speaker 3: because he you know, he was personal and he I'm
- 16:19Speaker 3: sure felt some kind of a way about that, right,
- 16:21Speaker 3: not positive. So he starts Pixar, and Pixar becomes just
- 16:29Speaker 3: this absolutely massive, massive success story, and that in many
- 16:36Speaker 3: ways is the saving grace of Steve Jobs. Financially, it
- 16:48Speaker 3: reimagines him. In fact, let me give some credit, Steve
- 16:53Speaker 3: Jobs was not the only founder of Pixar. It appears
- 16:55Speaker 3: there were a couple of them, including Ed Mole Catmull,
- 17:01Speaker 3: who doesn't give the credit that he deserves. But it
- 17:04Speaker 3: appears that Steve Jobs takes this idea and grows it
- 17:11Speaker 3: beyond anybody's wildest dreams and including his own, and then
- 17:18Speaker 3: he comes back to Apple and kills it right. But
- 17:23Speaker 3: that's not the story of Steve Jobs. I want you
- 17:25Speaker 3: to obsess on. Here's a story I want you to
- 17:32Speaker 3: sit down for, because it's going to blow your mind.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Steve Jobs was the child of a Jordanian immigrant from
- 17:41Speaker 3: what we call the Middle East region North Africa quotation
- 17:47Speaker 3: marks that area.
- 17:49Speaker 1: And a white mother.
- 17:52Speaker 3: The parents of the white mother of Steve Jobs did
- 17:55Speaker 3: not approve of Steve Job's father mother, sorry, the father's
- 18:00Speaker 3: toe Jobs, the immigrant being in being part of his
- 18:03Speaker 3: daughter's life. The parents of the Caucasian woman who had
- 18:12Speaker 3: a child with this Jordanian immigrant, Okay, those the parents
- 18:17Speaker 3: did not approve of the Jordanian immigrant, and put I
- 18:21Speaker 3: wanted to put the child up for adoption. That that
- 18:27Speaker 3: child Steve, I'm a paraphrases. The parents decide they want
- 18:34Speaker 3: that Steve to go to a wealthy, well healed family.
- 18:40Speaker 3: As I understand it, that family selected Steve. And then
- 18:44Speaker 3: something happened, and uh, the adoption fell apart. And uh,
- 18:52Speaker 3: when the adoption fell apart, they the family had to
- 18:55Speaker 3: scramble to find a new suitor, a new adopt adoption
- 19:05Speaker 3: host for young Steve. That was not their best choice
- 19:10Speaker 3: or their first choice. It was a last choice. Well
- 19:14Speaker 3: that was his middle class family called the Jobs family.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Can't make this up in Silicon Valley. They adopt this
- 19:23Speaker 3: young man, bring him into their household and name him
- 19:28Speaker 3: Steve Jobs. And he wrote, you know hangs out in
- 19:33Speaker 3: the neighborhood and around the corner is this brilliant dude
- 19:35Speaker 3: named Wolseley. At the rest of the story, you may know,
- 19:39Speaker 3: they go in the garage and create this amazing idea
- 19:46Speaker 3: from nothing called.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Apple.
- 19:51Speaker 3: Now you can put the rest of this piece together.
- 19:54Speaker 3: Apple today is is one of the most valuable companies
- 19:57Speaker 3: in the world. Last time I checked over three trilliion
- 20:00Speaker 3: dollars of market cap and tons of cash on demand.
- 20:03Speaker 3: It's like they got a GDP of most that they've
- 20:06Speaker 3: got a wealth equation that's bigger than most countries. But
- 20:10Speaker 3: what would have happened if Steve Jobs and we don't
- 20:14Speaker 3: discount his genius, now, what would have happened if Steve
- 20:16Speaker 3: Jobs was instead adopted by a single parent mother on
- 20:24Speaker 3: the South Side of Chicago in that same period. Keep
- 20:30Speaker 3: in mind, Steve Jobs is brilliant. Now I'll tell you
- 20:34Speaker 3: what would have happened. He would have been He would
- 20:36Speaker 3: have become the biggest, most successful drug dealer the South
- 20:40Speaker 3: Side of Chicago had ever seen, because God's not going
- 20:46Speaker 3: to deny you your genius. And he would have found
- 20:48Speaker 3: a way to use that that brilliants and that genius
- 20:51Speaker 3: in a broken neighborhood to create enterprise for himself. I mean,
- 20:56Speaker 3: what do you think a drug dealer is if not
- 20:59Speaker 3: a unethical, illegal, inappropriate business plan, structured entrepreneur. They understand import, export, finance, marketing, wholesale, retail,
- 21:12Speaker 3: customer service, security, territory logistics. Right, And what do you
- 21:17Speaker 3: think of gang leader is in those neighborhoods? Other than
- 21:20Speaker 3: a frustrated union organizer. These are genius, brilliant, amazing people
- 21:25Speaker 3: with the wrong business plan, the wrong relationship capital, the
- 21:28Speaker 3: wrong environment, the wrong you want to call it luck
- 21:32Speaker 3: of the gene pool, but they're not lacking intelligence, right,
- 21:37Speaker 3: and you hang it. That's why I say you hang
- 21:38Speaker 3: around nine bro people, You'll be the tenth. A lot
- 21:41Speaker 3: of life is relationship capital. It's either luck of your
- 21:44Speaker 3: zip code or reimagining your environment. And I keep trying
- 21:47Speaker 3: to get you to reimagine your environment. And what am
- 21:50Speaker 3: I trying to do today? Reprogram your mindset? If you
- 21:53Speaker 3: can't change where you are, change how you see where
- 21:55Speaker 3: you are, and change what you do about where you are,
- 21:59Speaker 3: and what you going to do to move away from
- 22:03Speaker 3: the environment that may be keeping you from being the
- 22:06Speaker 3: best of who you are?
- 22:08Speaker 1: Hello? Can I get a name? Man? This is the
- 22:11Speaker 1: church of what's happening? Now? What have you done for
- 22:12Speaker 1: me lately? So?
- 22:15Speaker 3: Steve jobs, Uh that we all champion as a hero
- 22:19Speaker 3: who literally changed the world. Every device you're looking at
- 22:22Speaker 3: right now, whether it's an Apple device or a Samsung
- 22:25Speaker 3: or whatever it is you're using, or even an Android
- 22:27Speaker 3: that that's that uh glass like surface that is touchscreen,
- 22:35Speaker 3: right that you use. That was Steve Jobs. Everybody uses
- 22:39Speaker 3: that technology and that approach. Basically remember the some of
- 22:42Speaker 3: you remember the uhh the handheld device or device is
- 22:49Speaker 3: that were literally uh you had your you punched the keyboard.
- 22:55Speaker 3: You know, it was a little bit of a keyboard
- 22:57Speaker 3: on it. You little screen and you have these keep
- 22:59Speaker 3: these keys and you punch the keys on whatever the
- 23:02Speaker 3: device you were using. It was you know, tactile in
- 23:05Speaker 3: other words, you you literally you hit these little buttons,
- 23:09Speaker 3: right or the rotary dow the push button phone or
- 23:14Speaker 3: the rotary dill phone. Going too deep for some of
- 23:17Speaker 3: the people, what's a rotary dow phone. The point is
- 23:20Speaker 3: that this technology of of of of touchscreen technology is
- 23:26Speaker 3: is fairly new, and it's and it's and and he
- 23:30Speaker 3: he revolutionized that. He revolutionized, uh, music, books, all these
- 23:36Speaker 3: industries that uh, this guy transformed. And he was a
- 23:41Speaker 3: failure by he'd been written off by the world, and
- 23:45Speaker 3: he was a Jordanian minority immigrant Oprah Winfrey, who I
- 23:54Speaker 3: absolutely adore. I counter as I can't say she's a friend.
- 23:58Speaker 3: We're not like we hang out, but we her friendly.
- 24:01Speaker 3: She allows me to communicate with her, stay in touch.
- 24:03Speaker 3: Whether she gave me the Usual Life Award which helped
- 24:06Speaker 3: to set me on the world stage. You can still
- 24:08Speaker 3: go and watch that online from her show, The oper
- 24:11Speaker 3: Winfrey Show. I really thank her and appreciate her, and
- 24:15Speaker 3: she's amazing. Well, she was told she was unfit for TV.
- 24:25Speaker 3: In fact, she was fired, humiliated. She could have just
- 24:28Speaker 3: walked away. Instead, she leaned in. She was a local
- 24:34Speaker 3: broadcaster in Chicago, that's where I met her, which she
- 24:38Speaker 3: had the Oprah Winfrey Show there, still based in Chicago,
- 24:40Speaker 3: but she was started as a broadcaster. She started, she
- 24:42Speaker 3: got sort of made her first public acclaim as a
- 24:46Speaker 3: as a news broadcaster, a talk talk show host in Chicago.
- 24:52Speaker 3: And then she tried this new concept. Once she has
- 24:55Speaker 3: some success of this way. I describe it going spiritual
- 24:59Speaker 3: or becoming, you know, getting deeper about everything. And the
- 25:03Speaker 3: audience initially didn't know what to do with her, how
- 25:05Speaker 3: to deal with her, and so the audience, the ratings
- 25:08Speaker 3: did not support her ascension. In fact, the audience walked
- 25:11Speaker 3: away from her, and I'm sure she had questions about
- 25:14Speaker 3: I'm sure she questioned herself like can I do this?
- 25:18Speaker 1: You know?
- 25:18Speaker 3: Is this what I'm supposed to be doing? And she
- 25:21Speaker 3: just stayed at it. She never gave up. And of
- 25:23Speaker 3: course the rest of the story is well known, and
- 25:25Speaker 3: she took off like a rocket once the audience clicked
- 25:27Speaker 3: into that. If she didn't if she didn't give up,
- 25:29Speaker 3: the audience didn't give up, see what I'm saying, And
- 25:32Speaker 3: it was once again resiliency. And today she's iconic and
- 25:37Speaker 3: singular in the world. President Barack Obama lost his first
- 25:43Speaker 3: race totally wasn't ready four years later US senator. That's
- 25:49Speaker 3: where I met him. I met him at the White
- 25:50Speaker 3: House when he was a US senator, four years after that.
- 25:53Speaker 3: And by the way, when I met him at the
- 25:55Speaker 3: White House, no one was paying him any attention. Hit
- 25:56Speaker 3: his assistant with him, and who assistant introduced to him
- 26:00Speaker 3: to me? And assistant said, this guy is really passionate
- 26:03Speaker 3: about financial literacy. And we talked very briefly. He didn't
- 26:05Speaker 3: seem very interested in me. By the way, mister Obama
- 26:08Speaker 3: at the time I ended up serving him as an advisor.
- 26:12Speaker 3: One of his advisors want to became president. But I
- 26:14Speaker 3: remember we met him. I met him at the Bush
- 26:16Speaker 3: White House, President Bush the Sun for Black History Month,
- 26:19Speaker 3: And I mean I wasn't blown away vying when I
- 26:23Speaker 3: met him. It didn't seem like it actually seemed like
- 26:26Speaker 3: we became president, he became taller. He just seemed much
- 26:29Speaker 3: more bold and audacious. Later on, again, I guess his
- 26:33Speaker 3: confidence increased, right, his light increased, his confidence increase. It's natural,
- 26:39Speaker 3: and success begets more success. And so I met him
- 26:44Speaker 3: as a US senator, a very nice guy, very articulate,
- 26:48Speaker 3: very smart. Four years after that, first black president of
- 26:51Speaker 3: the United States of America, and I will add one
- 26:55Speaker 3: of a few presidents with no scandals.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Can you believe that?
- 26:59Speaker 3: Pretty amazing President Abraham Lincoln, who is touted as one
- 27:02Speaker 3: of the most amazing success stories, failed at everything, I
- 27:06Speaker 3: mean at everything. The only thing he actually succeeded that
- 27:09Speaker 3: was being elected president of the United States of America.
- 27:11Speaker 3: And then once he did that, after state said you're
- 27:14Speaker 3: not my president, walked to very room, and that started
- 27:16Speaker 3: the Civil War.
- 27:27Speaker 1: JK.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Rowling broke depressed, rejected twelve times Harry Potter was her
- 27:37Speaker 3: last shot. Can you imagine this thing that is touted
- 27:43Speaker 3: around the world today? That was her last shot, right, Depressed,
- 27:47Speaker 3: broke and feeling like she had absolutely failed. Let me
- 27:57Speaker 3: now go to some other examples of success and failure
- 28:05Speaker 3: so that you can see that this is not a fluke,
- 28:10Speaker 3: that this is not Okay. John Brian has mentioned some
- 28:17Speaker 3: popular stories, but that can't be everything. Okay, let's go
- 28:22Speaker 3: deeper walk Disney fired for lack of imagination. I can't
- 28:27Speaker 3: make this up. Fired for lack of imagination, Fired from
- 28:33Speaker 3: a newspaper job for not being creative enough. His turnaround
- 28:39Speaker 3: went bankrupt several times before launching Disney Studios. Today, Disney
- 28:47Speaker 3: is a global empire. Thomas Edison failed one thousand attempts
- 28:55Speaker 3: at his experiments one thousand times. Can you imagine trying
- 28:59Speaker 3: something a thousand times? This is not like casual I
- 29:02Speaker 3: mean documented failures of a thousand times. Took one thousand
- 29:07Speaker 3: tries to invent one thing. The light bulb that you
- 29:10Speaker 3: take for granted every day, tried one thousand times to
- 29:13Speaker 3: invent it, failed every time. His turnaround story, he said,
- 29:18Speaker 3: I've not failed, I've just found ten thousand ways this
- 29:21Speaker 3: won't work. His invention transformed, of course, modern life. Now
- 29:28Speaker 3: here's an untold story about Thomas Edison. Thomas Edison added
- 29:32Speaker 3: a little intern that he paid no attention to and
- 29:36Speaker 3: he rejected, named Tesla. No, not the car. Tesla's named
- 29:43Speaker 3: after an inventor. Right, So that's another story for another time.
- 29:47Speaker 3: But Tesla was a mentee of Thomas Edison, and Thomas
- 29:51Speaker 3: Edison just dismissed him, and they both created amazing inventions,
- 29:57Speaker 3: pioneered them, I think, going off memory, but I'm pretty
- 30:00Speaker 3: sure Thomas Edison. Of course the light bulb and so
- 30:04Speaker 3: you had one to created AC power, in one that
- 30:08Speaker 3: created DC power. But they were became competitors later on
- 30:12Speaker 3: in their life. Carl Sanders, Uh, this is the chicken dude, okay,
- 30:19Speaker 3: rejected one thousand and nine times. He kept a number,
- 30:23Speaker 3: He kept a log of this. His chicken recipe was rejected.
- 30:28Speaker 3: This is you know Kentucky for a chicken, right? His
- 30:32Speaker 3: chicken recipe was rejected over a thousand times before KFC
- 30:35Speaker 3: took off. Hold on now at age sixty two, Hello,
- 30:41Speaker 3: did you hear that? But tell you another one, because,
- 30:44Speaker 3: by the way, most millionaires become millionaires in their mid
- 30:46Speaker 3: to late fifties. Right, that was my experience, by the way,
- 30:51Speaker 3: And I'm gonna get in my success story failure story
- 30:54Speaker 3: in a minute. It really my success story is my
- 30:57Speaker 3: failure story. I tell you one that is not obvious.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Nelson Mandela Right, went to prison at forty seven years
- 31:05Speaker 3: of age, stayed in prison. Went to prison an angry
- 31:10Speaker 3: black man at forty seven years old, stayed there twenty
- 31:13Speaker 3: seven years in prison, turned it into Mandela University, unofficial
- 31:18Speaker 3: name for the prison. Because he was teaching everybody he
- 31:21Speaker 3: was an inspiration. He wasn't allowing them his captivation to
- 31:25Speaker 3: captivate and control his mind, his soul, the spirit. We're
- 31:28Speaker 3: not human beings having a spiritual experience, where spiritual beings
- 31:32Speaker 3: having a human experience and energy matters. He decided to
- 31:37Speaker 3: turn his jailer's into his pupils, and his jail into
- 31:46Speaker 3: a monastery of a place of education, inspiration, and an expression.
- 31:57Speaker 3: He stayed there twenty seven years, and really, what the
- 32:01Speaker 3: thing that we know to be his success Right He
- 32:04Speaker 3: went in at almost fifty years of age, right, I
- 32:07Speaker 3: mean he didn't do that too close to eighty years
- 32:10Speaker 3: of age before. Really, between mid seventies and mid eighties
- 32:15Speaker 3: years of age is when he did all the stuff
- 32:17Speaker 3: president of the country. You know, an inspiration for the world.
- 32:21Speaker 3: That basically decade period he changed the world. I mean,
- 32:25Speaker 3: Moses didn't know what he was even doing until it
- 32:27Speaker 3: was eighty That's biblical. If some of you don't know
- 32:30Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. Vera Owayne bringing this back to
- 32:34Speaker 3: Earth again. Vera Awayne, the designer, failed her Olympic dream,
- 32:42Speaker 3: didn't make the US Olympic figure skating team. She pivoted
- 32:48Speaker 3: it into fashion. Now she's one of the most recognized
- 32:52Speaker 3: bridal designers in the world. What you know, I often say,
- 32:57Speaker 3: if I got what I wanted in life, I would
- 32:59Speaker 3: not have wanted what I got. Be careful what you
- 33:02Speaker 3: asked for, you just might get it. Jeff Bezos one
- 33:07Speaker 3: hundred and seventy million dollar flop Amazon. Amazon's firephone was
- 33:15Speaker 3: a major failure. Did you know there was a firephone?
- 33:19Speaker 3: He used the lessons though, to help build what we
- 33:22Speaker 3: now call Alexa and Amazon Web Services, which is now
- 33:28Speaker 3: hold on a multi billion dollar success story. Fred Smith,
- 33:35Speaker 3: FedEx founder the company, almost died. He's Fred still running
- 33:40Speaker 3: the company to this day in Memphis. Outside of Memphis,
- 33:44Speaker 3: the failure, Well, the business was failing, it was not succeeding.
- 33:48Speaker 3: Smith used the company's last five thousand dollars to gamble
- 33:51Speaker 3: in Vegas to keep it alive. What's his turnaround story.
- 33:56Speaker 3: FedEx is now a global logistics giant valued in the
- 33:59Speaker 3: tens of billion. And no, do not take this advice
- 34:02Speaker 3: that you think I'm giving you and take your last
- 34:04Speaker 3: five grand of Vegas. I'm not saying doing that. I'm
- 34:06Speaker 3: just telling you what he did and is a symbol
- 34:09Speaker 3: of just never giving up. Henry Ford and Henry Ford's
- 34:13Speaker 3: great great grandson, a great great great grandson is a
- 34:16Speaker 3: friend of mine. Henry for the third, great guy who's
- 34:19Speaker 3: on the board of my Motorsports Academy and on Operation
- 34:21Speaker 3: to Hope, and we were great friends. I really love
- 34:25Speaker 3: him and loved the story. Henry Ford had two failed
- 34:31Speaker 3: companies before the Ford Motor Company.
- 34:34Speaker 1: His failure.
- 34:35Speaker 3: His first two car companies failed investors pulled.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Out what was his turnaround?
- 34:41Speaker 3: Built Ford Motor Company and revolutionized modern manufacturing. One step further,
- 34:46Speaker 3: there were about one hundred and ten give or take
- 34:51Speaker 3: car companies between the year nineteen hundred and nineteen ten.
- 34:56Speaker 3: I believe that started in this revolution of the automobile,
- 35:00Speaker 3: all the revolution of horses, very much like we're in
- 35:02Speaker 3: the AI revolution today. And all these companies jumping into
- 35:05Speaker 3: the fray and throwing billions of dollars tends to billion
- 35:07Speaker 3: of dollars, trying to be the first to market and
- 35:09Speaker 3: trying to distinguish themselves during this automobile situation this decade.
- 35:13Speaker 3: Most of these companies failed, and you're seeing the remnants
- 35:17Speaker 3: of some of those companies which are now brands in
- 35:20Speaker 3: other companies. Christ it was its own company, Dodge was
- 35:22Speaker 3: his own company. A lot of these, you know, Cadillac,
- 35:27Speaker 3: a lot of these things that you take for granted,
- 35:30Speaker 3: were standalone companies, and some of them just failed and
- 35:34Speaker 3: you don't even hear about them anymore. Well, one of
- 35:38Speaker 3: the problems was cost containment and efficiency, and Henry Ford
- 35:44Speaker 3: got an idea around manufacturing, which was his revolution, was
- 35:49Speaker 3: the assembly line. But he couldn't get workers to do this.
- 35:53Speaker 3: What was became not in this work on the assembly line,
- 35:56Speaker 3: so we had to pay them more to do this
- 35:58Speaker 3: monotonous work. Well, he ended up paying them enough to
- 36:02Speaker 3: buy the autobiles that they were actually making, which they
- 36:05Speaker 3: did aspirationally, and he ended up by accident, birthing the
- 36:10Speaker 3: middle class in America. It came from that experiment. He
- 36:14Speaker 3: also then birthed a huge success with this growth of
- 36:19Speaker 3: the Ford Motor Company. By the way, the founder of
- 36:23Speaker 3: Motown Music Company, Barry Gordy, got the idea of his
- 36:32Speaker 3: Motown Music Company and how he was going to become
- 36:34Speaker 3: a production facility in house. Everything produced in house, writing, producing,
- 36:40Speaker 3: direct not directing, writing, producing, manufacturing, talent development, all the
- 36:45Speaker 3: stuff the assembly line of talent came from him working
- 36:52Speaker 3: at the Ford Motor Company. That's a little known story.
- 36:56Speaker 3: And so out of failure came to successes. Henry Ford
- 37:00Speaker 3: and Barry Gordy. Is deep, isn't it. Arianna Huffington, who
- 37:05Speaker 3: I know rejected thirty six times her failure. Her second
- 37:10Speaker 3: book was rejected by a publisher thirty six times. Thirty
- 37:14Speaker 3: six publishers said no, this is stupid, get it away
- 37:18Speaker 3: from me.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Her turnaround.
- 37:19Speaker 3: She later founded the Huffington Post, one of the most
- 37:22Speaker 3: influential digital media brands in the world. And she's hugely
- 37:26Speaker 3: successful in a nice person. Sarah Brak Blakeley, who I
- 37:30Speaker 3: also know, failed her law career. Did you know she
- 37:34Speaker 3: had a law career? Her failure, scored low on the LSAT,
- 37:39Speaker 3: and got rejected from law school. Her turnaround invented spanks
- 37:45Speaker 3: with five thousand dollars investment and no outside investment investors,
- 37:50Speaker 3: became the youngest self made female billionaire. And she's a
- 37:55Speaker 3: pretty cool person and her husband is also an entrepreneur.
- 38:00Speaker 1: You wouldn't know that from the story.
- 38:03Speaker 3: You just assumed looking at her today, she's always been beautiful,
- 38:05Speaker 3: successful and her life is perfect. No, not true. She's
- 38:09Speaker 3: had to reinvent and reimagine every step of the way.
- 38:13Speaker 3: Stephen King, Yes, Stephen King. He threw the movie Carrie
- 38:21Speaker 3: in the trash. His first manuscript, Carrie, was rejected thirty times.
- 38:26Speaker 3: He threw it away. What's his turnaround story? Listen now?
- 38:31Speaker 3: His wife rescued it. Today. It sold over three hundred
- 38:35Speaker 3: and fifty million books worldwide. It was a book then,
- 38:38Speaker 3: of course adapted. And let me tell you now about
- 38:45Speaker 3: my story. I grew up in Competence, south central LA.
- 38:50Speaker 3: And if you were listening to this podcast, you'd probably
- 38:52Speaker 3: know most of this. So I won't bore you with this.
- 38:54Speaker 3: I want to get you to get back around to
- 38:55Speaker 3: some lessons I want you to take from this podcast
- 38:58Speaker 3: episode that are practical and useful for you as regard
- 39:01Speaker 3: to your mindset. But you may or may not know.
- 39:03Speaker 3: I'm do this with it clicked crib notes for me.
- 39:06Speaker 3: I grew up in south central LA in Compton. I.
- 39:10Speaker 3: I was born at Good Samaritan Hospital. My mom and
- 39:13Speaker 3: dad created a little, you know, conglomerate for a black
- 39:16Speaker 3: family with a high school education. My dad was from Alabama.
- 39:21Speaker 3: Mother was effectively well from Alabama also, but she grew
- 39:24Speaker 3: up at Eas Saint Louis. They got together, moved to
- 39:27Speaker 3: South central LA, where they had me at Good Samaritan Hospital.
- 39:30Speaker 3: They owned a gas station at Vernon in Normandy on
- 39:34Speaker 3: the southeast corner.
- 39:36Speaker 1: It's still there to this day.
- 39:38Speaker 3: We owned a house on Santa Barbara Boulevard now called
- 39:41Speaker 3: Martina King Boulevard. We owned the eight unit apartment building
- 39:44Speaker 3: which we bought for eighteen thousand dollars. You could make
- 39:47Speaker 3: the mortgage payment of two hundred semi dollars on the
- 39:50Speaker 3: income of two of the units that were rented out
- 39:52Speaker 3: of the eight units, which and they lived in the
- 39:54Speaker 3: third one, which means the rest of it was profit.
- 39:56Speaker 3: They just did that. That won property today is worth
- 39:59Speaker 3: eight million dollars. Last time I checked. We owned our
- 40:03Speaker 3: own home, We owned a CMN contracting business, we owned
- 40:06Speaker 3: a nursery business. They were hustlers. My mother was a
- 40:09Speaker 3: seamstress part time. They lost everything, And that's another podcast.
- 40:15Speaker 3: You can go back and listen to the podcast I
- 40:17Speaker 3: did on my mother. I didn't want to, I think
- 40:19Speaker 3: on my father. I didn't want on my own failure story.
- 40:22Speaker 3: But they lost everything. And my mother could have taken
- 40:24Speaker 3: my dad to the cleaners because California's community property state
- 40:27Speaker 3: fifty to fifty, and she could have taken literally everything
- 40:30Speaker 3: he had because she had the children. She had me
- 40:33Speaker 3: and my brother Donnie, and my sister Monty Maria hot
- 40:36Speaker 3: Maa we call her, and originally Marra Hoskins.
- 40:42Speaker 1: And she didn't.
- 40:44Speaker 3: My mother chose to leave with the kids and her
- 40:47Speaker 3: own self determination and with the eight fifty four credit
- 40:50Speaker 3: score and hustled in her heart working an hourly job,
- 40:52Speaker 3: became a millionaire later in her life, working in an
- 40:57Speaker 3: hourly job, buying and selling self and home, putting down
- 41:00Speaker 3: payments on my on, a home for my sister, down
- 41:02Speaker 3: payments home for my brother, getting me out of trouble
- 41:05Speaker 3: when I had a dead eye, oled of seventy thousand dollars.
- 41:08Speaker 1: She loaned me the money. I paid her back.
- 41:11Speaker 3: But she did all that just as a working class
- 41:13Speaker 3: woman with a high school education in a fifteen to
- 41:16Speaker 3: eighteen dollars an hour job for thirty two years, and
- 41:18Speaker 3: she made handicrafts part time, and so that to her work,
- 41:21Speaker 3: to her employees. She had a life insurance policy, a will,
- 41:25Speaker 3: and she had real estate that she just kept. She
- 41:27Speaker 3: died with the men now net worth up from nothing right,
- 41:31Speaker 3: and my dad unfortunately passed away. Even though he was
- 41:33Speaker 3: a businessman and very savvy as a businessman, he wasn't
- 41:36Speaker 3: savvy on money and financially literate and refused to learn
- 41:40Speaker 3: lessons and pride kills. I ended up having to take
- 41:43Speaker 3: care of my dad for the rest of his life. Anyway,
- 41:46Speaker 3: they're both been promoted on the glory. I learned these
- 41:49Speaker 3: lessons hard about money early on. My family network destroyed.
- 41:54Speaker 3: We lost that department building, by the way, destroyed by
- 41:58Speaker 3: financial literacy. That's why I'm so passionate about a date
- 42:00Speaker 3: Rainbows after storms.
- 42:03Speaker 1: You know.
- 42:03Speaker 3: Operation Hope, which you all know about it by now,
- 42:07Speaker 3: is the biggest financial literacy organization in America and by
- 42:09Speaker 3: Extension probably the world the largest black mail founded community
- 42:14Speaker 3: based nonprofit ever founded in America. Seventy five million dollars budget,
- 42:18Speaker 3: four point five billion dollars invested in communities, millions of clients,
- 42:21Speaker 3: fifteen hundred offices. You hear all this stuff, What you
- 42:24Speaker 3: may not know is that it almost went broke several times.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Right.
- 42:30Speaker 3: In fact, what was really embarrassing was you had this
- 42:33Speaker 3: guy promoting financial literacy, but the organization was not financially
- 42:38Speaker 3: solvent for many, many, many years. And I was talking
- 42:42Speaker 3: about I mean people, I raised some early money as
- 42:45Speaker 3: media attention, but the world really wasn't ready for me
- 42:48Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety two and the nineties, and people laughed
- 42:51Speaker 3: at me. They dismissed me, and the organization struggled for
- 42:57Speaker 3: sustainable funding and buying from major major corporation and the
- 43:00Speaker 3: corporation companies you see now, they weren't there back then.
- 43:03Speaker 3: Nobody believed in me. People just sort of waved me away.
- 43:06Speaker 3: We were trying to sell financial literacy before anyone knew
- 43:09Speaker 3: what that even meant. People didn't. They just didn't get it.
- 43:13Speaker 3: Banks didn't fund it, governments didn't support it, and I
- 43:18Speaker 3: didn't know.
- 43:19Speaker 1: How to scale it.
- 43:20Speaker 3: Yet there were moments, a real low point where I
- 43:25Speaker 3: really almost went broke with Operation Hope. My personal credit
- 43:30Speaker 3: was shot. After I founded Operation Hope, I was trying
- 43:34Speaker 3: to save a nonprofit while losing grip on my own finances.
- 43:37Speaker 3: I let my own business drift away when I was
- 43:40Speaker 3: in my twenties, trying to do something for community. It
- 43:43Speaker 3: may not have been the best thing in the world,
- 43:45Speaker 3: but I was committed and I had a vision. Imagine
- 43:50Speaker 3: trying to teach America about money when you're struggling to
- 43:53Speaker 3: make rent. I had to decide whether the mission was
- 43:56Speaker 3: worth my last dollar. I bet on Hope, had to
- 44:00Speaker 3: start over several times, and I just never ever ever
- 44:04Speaker 3: gave up. I founded the Promise Homes Company, and you know,
- 44:09Speaker 3: that wasn't easy, and I had to learn the lesson
- 44:12Speaker 3: in the language of Wall Street, the structure of institutional capital,
- 44:16Speaker 3: the discipline of enterprising, building an enterprise and making it scalable. Yeah,
- 44:22Speaker 3: I had a major success and I built the company
- 44:24Speaker 3: and sold it. But that was not easy. I mean
- 44:26Speaker 3: I had I had miss deals, missteps, missed moments. I
- 44:31Speaker 3: mean I had times with my and my partners were
- 44:34Speaker 3: looking at me crazy when I you know I was
- 44:36Speaker 3: growing the company, but you know, believed and turned it around.
- 44:42Speaker 3: And again I've done a Hope episode on that and
- 44:47Speaker 3: sold the company for north of one hundred million dollars
- 44:51Speaker 3: and had you know, a couple of hundred million dollars
- 44:53Speaker 3: credit facility tied to it, and I sold it into
- 44:56Speaker 3: a joint venture for which I own as a limited
- 45:00Speaker 3: partner at stake in and I'll probably be transitioning out
- 45:03Speaker 3: of that soon. I was resign as chairman last year
- 45:06Speaker 3: because I'm just not involved in the business and if
- 45:09Speaker 3: I can't control the narrative and know where it's going
- 45:12Speaker 3: and have some influence over it, I you know, I
- 45:15Speaker 3: don't have an ego about it. I'm like if if if,
- 45:17Speaker 3: if I know, been there, done that, have the T shirt?
- 45:19Speaker 3: I prove I could build a company and sell it
- 45:22Speaker 3: on Wall Street they call it clip a coupon on
- 45:24Speaker 3: Wall Street. I prove that I could build a company
- 45:26Speaker 3: from the streets and sell it to Wall Street institutional investors.
- 45:31Speaker 3: And so nothing that's enough to prove there. And so
- 45:34Speaker 3: I'm still a limited partner, but again I'm going to
- 45:37Speaker 3: probably transition out of that completely here soon. Let them
- 45:40Speaker 3: go do what they want. To do, and I'm going
- 45:44Speaker 3: to do something else and I'm good with that. Right,
- 45:47Speaker 3: So you don't fall. You just you just if you're
- 45:49Speaker 3: going to fall, fall forward, but you're not. It's not
- 45:52Speaker 3: a failure when something doesn't work out the way you
- 45:54Speaker 3: wanted to. It's the end of an experiment. That's all
- 45:57Speaker 3: it is.
- 45:57Speaker 1: Right.
- 45:58Speaker 3: No one teaches you how to run a two hund
- 46:00Speaker 3: a million dollar business in Compton, California. But I learned
- 46:05Speaker 3: by failing, by asking, and by doing. See all these
- 46:10Speaker 3: books around me, I'm constantly learning. Quincy Jones, dear friend
- 46:14Speaker 3: of mine, how'd you get so smart? Quincy? Answer, I'm
- 46:17Speaker 3: just nosy as hell. I want to know everything about everything.
- 46:21Speaker 3: God gave you two years and one mouth, so you
- 46:23Speaker 3: listen twice as much as you talk. So from failures,
- 46:28Speaker 3: you know, the failures became a blueprint in many ways.
- 46:31Speaker 3: Operation Hope today is a seventy five million dollar give
- 46:33Speaker 3: it take budget, one of the largest black male founded
- 46:37Speaker 3: and run nonprofits even to this day. Again sold, you know,
- 46:43Speaker 3: built and sold a major real estate business. A co
- 46:45Speaker 3: chair national initiatives including the AI Ethics Council with Sam
- 46:49Speaker 3: Autman and Financial Literacy for All with Doug mc millan
- 46:53Speaker 3: of Walmart CEO was a great guy. But none of
- 46:56Speaker 3: this would have happened without my failures. I've been broke,
- 46:59Speaker 3: I've been underestimated, I've been embarrassed, but I've never been done.
- 47:04Speaker 3: Failure didn't stop me, It shaped me. Who I asked failure,
- 47:22Speaker 3: What lessons you have to teach me? And I was
- 47:25Speaker 3: there to be the writer of my last chapter?
- 47:30Speaker 1: What about you?
- 47:31Speaker 3: So going back now to your lessons? Okay, here's some
- 47:36Speaker 3: stuff I want you to spend some time on and understand.
- 47:40Speaker 3: Number one, well, here's some useless emotions. Guilt, shame, blame, judgment.
- 47:49Speaker 3: As Bible suggests, don't throw rocks in the grass glass house,
- 47:52Speaker 3: you might hit yourself. Right, So guilt, shame, blame, judgment.
- 47:58Speaker 3: Who is the right to judge you? That's between you
- 48:00Speaker 3: and God. There is no perfect I started out by
- 48:02Speaker 3: saying that, So, like people want to judge you, like,
- 48:06Speaker 3: consider the source who's talking to you? If somebody's going
- 48:08Speaker 3: to give you some critique or criticism, consider the source.
- 48:12Speaker 3: Are they successful?
- 48:13Speaker 1: Right?
- 48:14Speaker 3: We often spend our time trying to model and press somebody.
- 48:16Speaker 3: We don't even want to be. Like, who's telling you
- 48:19Speaker 3: that you can't do it? Did they do it? Who's
- 48:22Speaker 3: telling you can't succeed? Did they succeed at a high level?
- 48:26Speaker 3: Who's telling you can't be a homeowner? Do they own
- 48:28Speaker 3: a home? Who's telling you can to be a business owner?
- 48:31Speaker 3: Have they had a successful business? Who's telling you can't
- 48:34Speaker 3: buy a business? Make a business and sell it on
- 48:37Speaker 3: Wall Street? Have they made a business and sold it
- 48:38Speaker 3: on Wall Street, or on Main Street, or on any street?
- 48:42Speaker 3: Consider the source. I tell people all the time, I
- 48:45Speaker 3: like what I'm doing much better than what you're not doing.
- 48:49Speaker 3: That's right. I like what I'm doing much better than
- 48:51Speaker 3: what you're not doing.
- 48:53Speaker 1: Right.
- 48:53Speaker 3: Criticism is a cheap sport. People standing on the sidelines
- 48:56Speaker 3: throwing rocks cannot get in the game and play themselves.
- 49:00Speaker 3: But they are professional critics. I don't need a chief
- 49:02Speaker 3: criticism officer. I need a partner. I need a contributor.
- 49:05Speaker 3: All right, Hustle over everything, see my T shirt? Hustle
- 49:09Speaker 3: over everything. That's what I'm talking about. Perfectionism. Right, you're
- 49:16Speaker 3: waiting to be perfect, You'll wait forever. There is no perfectionism,
- 49:19Speaker 3: there is no perfect This is the best you can do.
- 49:21Speaker 3: So become perfect, and you're in perfection and leave the
- 49:24Speaker 3: rest of that stuff alone. Just relax. I used to
- 49:27Speaker 3: walk around my rear end tight all the time I
- 49:28Speaker 3: wanted to be. Trying to be perfect might give myself
- 49:30Speaker 3: high pertension and anxiety, Like, just chill, right, if you're
- 49:35Speaker 3: going to pray, why worry? You're gonna worry? Why pray?
- 49:39Speaker 3: Number two, you have fear of judgment. You care too
- 49:44Speaker 3: much about about what people think. That fear will trap you.
- 49:51Speaker 3: We have in church, yet come on now, talk to me,
- 49:53Speaker 3: Talk to me now. There are some people who have
- 49:57Speaker 3: an imposters syndrome, right. They fear that they really are
- 50:04Speaker 3: not who they purport to be. Well, without God, without
- 50:11Speaker 3: a higher power pouring into us, without us having a
- 50:13Speaker 3: humility of understanding that we are enlightened because we have
- 50:16Speaker 3: been set in the light. We've been given a gift
- 50:18Speaker 3: and we got to do something with it without help
- 50:21Speaker 3: from the universe. Yeah, you might be an impostor. But
- 50:26Speaker 3: if you know that you're God's child and you're special,
- 50:28Speaker 3: and you're here to make a difference and you've got
- 50:30Speaker 3: gifts to share, you're just catching up with your potential.
- 50:33Speaker 3: That's all you're doing. But imposter syndrome is real. Mentally,
- 50:37Speaker 3: particularly if you have depression and low self esteem, and
- 50:40Speaker 3: a lot of people will leave. I was sawing a
- 50:42Speaker 3: lady today when I came into the airport. She was
- 50:45Speaker 3: my greet and she was saying, she's in a relationship
- 50:48Speaker 3: and she just feels like her partner everything's going well.
- 50:51Speaker 3: Her partner's trying to almost like destroy the relationship. She
- 50:54Speaker 3: can't figure out why things are going so well. I
- 50:56Speaker 3: told her some imposter syndrome. That brother probably comes from
- 50:59Speaker 3: an unstable family, unstable situation, doesn't know what stable looks like,
- 51:03Speaker 3: and it scares him. And before you can leave him,
- 51:06Speaker 3: he's going to leave you. Before you can leave him,
- 51:09Speaker 3: he's gonna create an environment where that is unsustainable in
- 51:12Speaker 3: a relationship, so he can't be disappointed, so he can't
- 51:14Speaker 3: be hurt, so his heart, his heart is not broken.
- 51:16Speaker 3: And that sound crazy, but people do this all the time.
- 51:19Speaker 3: Hurt people, hurt people, hurt people hurt people. As an
- 51:25Speaker 3: old Southern saying, no matter how much I love you,
- 51:26Speaker 3: my son and my daughter, if I don't have wisdom,
- 51:28Speaker 3: all I can give you is my own ignorance. And
- 51:31Speaker 3: so out of love we pass down habits from bad
- 51:33Speaker 3: habits from generation to generation if I don't like me,
- 51:36Speaker 3: if I don't like me, I'm not gonna like you.
- 51:38Speaker 3: But I don't feel good about me. I'm not gonna
- 51:40Speaker 3: feel good about you. But I don't respect me. Don't
- 51:42Speaker 3: respect me to respect you. I don't love me. I
- 51:44Speaker 3: don't have a clue how to love you. And if
- 51:46Speaker 3: I don't have a purpose in my life, I'll make
- 51:48Speaker 3: your life a living hell. Whatever goes around comes around.
- 51:53Speaker 3: So this dude who he loves her, but he doesn't
- 51:56Speaker 3: love himself.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Right.
- 51:58Speaker 3: I asked a friend of mine years ago, why does
- 52:01Speaker 3: a genius like John Belushi or Marilyn Monroe? These were
- 52:06Speaker 3: for those who are not like movie buffs are entertainment
- 52:10Speaker 3: celebrity buffs. These are heroes. And she rose of you know,
- 52:14Speaker 3: the eighties and nineties or Maryland's before that sixties? Why
- 52:20Speaker 3: did Marilyn Monroe, John Belushi go out like that take
- 52:23Speaker 3: their own life? And she said she was a rose.
- 52:28Speaker 3: Catherine Pinkney was her name?
- 52:29Speaker 1: Is her name?
- 52:30Speaker 3: Friend of mine? She's at an executive at a studio.
- 52:32Speaker 3: She said, the same thing that gives them creative genius
- 52:36Speaker 3: tears them up on a sunny day. They just can't
- 52:39Speaker 3: handle normal they need drama. It's deep. But when you're
- 52:42Speaker 3: emotionally unstable, you don't want things to be normal. You
- 52:46Speaker 3: need the drama of it all, which is going to
- 52:49Speaker 3: ultimately destroy you. So it gives you brilliance. But that candle,
- 52:53Speaker 3: that burning is going to burn you up too. So
- 52:55Speaker 3: I need you to get into your dharma head to
- 52:58Speaker 3: peel your pain. Number three over confidence. Smart folks believe
- 53:06Speaker 3: they can't lose, but they forget to prepare. They also
- 53:10Speaker 3: fail the Andrew Young tests of men and women fail
- 53:13Speaker 3: for three reasons. He said, arrogance, pride, and greed. I'm
- 53:17Speaker 3: dealing with some folks right now full of pride and
- 53:20Speaker 3: arrogance and probably agreed to and they can't help themselves.
- 53:23Speaker 3: They can't get out of their own way, and in
- 53:26Speaker 3: my opinion, they can't help but fail, even though they're
- 53:30Speaker 3: really smart. So you got to step over mess and
- 53:33Speaker 3: not in it right and always treat people as you
- 53:35Speaker 3: want to be treated, and be gracious and kind and
- 53:38Speaker 3: loving even if it costs you something. Right, you want
- 53:43Speaker 3: to be able to look yourself in the mirror. And
- 53:48Speaker 3: I go to life, I go to bed, I go
- 53:49Speaker 3: to life. I go to life too. I go to
- 53:50Speaker 3: bed every night, completely comfortable, well, reasonably comfortable with my
- 53:54Speaker 3: own skin. But I sleep very well, and you should
- 53:57Speaker 3: want to do that too. So you only have confidence,
- 53:59Speaker 3: But you don't want to be overconfident. You want to
- 54:01Speaker 3: be arrogant or cocky, or you want to be light right,
- 54:08Speaker 3: to carry your gifts lightly right, and again treat others
- 54:13Speaker 3: as you have them as you want to be treated yourself.
- 54:15Speaker 3: That's actually biblical number four, not asking for help. Pride
- 54:20Speaker 3: will bankrupt your progress. Number five ego and identity. Being
- 54:25Speaker 3: smart becomes your identity, So failing feels like you are
- 54:30Speaker 3: you are the failure, right because that is your identity.
- 54:32Speaker 3: And goes back to what I said before about low
- 54:34Speaker 3: self esteem. You can actually have high confidence and low
- 54:36Speaker 3: self esteem happens all the time. Or you have these
- 54:39Speaker 3: tech geniuses from the Silicon Valley where theirs some of
- 54:42Speaker 3: them some of them with a blind spy called people.
- 54:45Speaker 3: Or you have also financial geniuses, and they think because
- 54:47Speaker 3: they're tech geniuses are financial geniuses. They're literally geniuses. That
- 54:51Speaker 3: means they're successful or genius. That that means that they
- 54:53Speaker 3: can translate that success in every other part of their life.
- 54:56Speaker 3: That because they're smart, there that means they know everything
- 54:59Speaker 3: else not true, and they will they will fail massively.
- 55:03Speaker 3: You can have high IQ and not have a high EQ. Right,
- 55:07Speaker 3: Am I getting too deep here? So you have to
- 55:09Speaker 3: have you really have humility and knowing what you don't,
- 55:14Speaker 3: acknowledging that that you don't know some stuff actually brings
- 55:18Speaker 3: you credibility. My friend of mine is Sam Autman, who
- 55:21Speaker 3: I think is a modern day Steve Jobs. And when
- 55:24Speaker 3: we talk about artificial intelligence, you know, I asked him
- 55:28Speaker 3: about the upside and the downside, and so what the
- 55:30Speaker 3: upside is we make your cancer in ten years. The
- 55:33Speaker 3: downside is it's something really bad might happen and I
- 55:36Speaker 3: don't know what it is. He said, So that I
- 55:38Speaker 3: mean that was humility. That took humidity for him to
- 55:41Speaker 3: say that. That made me trust him more, not less.
- 55:45Speaker 3: He's the founder of open A, the CEO open AI.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Six.
- 55:52Speaker 3: Overthinking analysis is paralysis. Right, action is the cure. Stop
- 55:58Speaker 3: overthinking stuff, Stop stop up nabl gazing, stop admiring the problem.
- 56:02Speaker 1: Right.
- 56:04Speaker 3: So, smart people fail because they think their brain is
- 56:08Speaker 3: the tool. Right, But it's the bounce back that builds wealth,
- 56:14Speaker 3: power and purpose. So I tell people all the time,
- 56:19Speaker 3: don't let the perfect become the death of the good.
- 56:23Speaker 3: Just get up and do something. Why do you think
- 56:24Speaker 3: your phone has My phone is an iPhone and my
- 56:28Speaker 3: phone is in the sixteen pro, but the software upgrade
- 56:32Speaker 3: that I'll last check was eighteen points something, which means
- 56:35Speaker 3: every time you get that phone, within weeks of you
- 56:37Speaker 3: getting it, there's a patch, a software upgrade they're doing.
- 56:40Speaker 3: Because it's not perfect, right, it's just good. It's a
- 56:44Speaker 3: good phone. It's good enough that got in the market.
- 56:46Speaker 3: They wait for it to be perfect. They never would
- 56:48Speaker 3: issue a phone. They issue the phone it's really a computer,
- 56:52Speaker 3: and then they send you a software upgrade, a patch
- 56:55Speaker 3: every few weeks, and you deal without thinking about it.
- 56:58Speaker 3: So why aren't you treating yourself the same way? Understand,
- 57:01Speaker 3: you're in this world. God puts you in this world, right,
- 57:04Speaker 3: He put you in the game. Don't wait for the perfect,
- 57:05Speaker 3: it's not coming right, Just getting the game to the
- 57:08Speaker 3: very best you can and keep getting software upgrades, keep
- 57:11Speaker 3: reading books, being nosy, keep learning. Listening to the podcast
- 57:14Speaker 3: like this, you know, realizing God gave you two ears
- 57:18Speaker 3: in one mouth, so you listen twice as much as
- 57:20Speaker 3: you talk. Be humble, be nosy, be curious, be fascinated,
- 57:25Speaker 3: Be a contributor, be a net giver in life, in
- 57:28Speaker 3: life with opportunity. Okay, I'm almost wrapped up here. I
- 57:36Speaker 3: hope you're enjoying this. Here are some practical tools and
- 57:42Speaker 3: habits for you to build resiliency, and I hope you're
- 57:46Speaker 3: enjoying this. Normalize failure, expect it, don't fear it, learn
- 57:53Speaker 3: from it. Two reframe the story instead of I failed,
- 57:59Speaker 3: say that was a lesson? What next again? I take
- 58:03Speaker 3: no for vitamins. Number three, Keep a learning journal. A
- 58:08Speaker 3: learning journal, track mistakes, extract value. Four Take micro risks,
- 58:18Speaker 3: small bets, daily discomfort. It builds confidence. Five share the journey, vulnerability,
- 58:26Speaker 3: Invite support. People want to help those who are real.
- 58:30Speaker 3: I ask for people all the time to help me.
- 58:33Speaker 3: I don't understand this, and I don't understand that. Can
- 58:34Speaker 3: you help me figure this thing out? I'm nosy, I'm curious.
- 58:37Speaker 3: I'm always trying to learn, and I go to experts
- 58:40Speaker 3: who may know something more than me, and that asking
- 58:43Speaker 3: if somebody told me to earlier day, friend of mine,
- 58:45Speaker 3: are I really respect? If you Phil Griffin's name, If
- 58:48Speaker 3: you ask for money from somebody successful, they'll give you advice.
- 58:53Speaker 3: But if you ask for advice, they may give you money.
- 58:56Speaker 3: And that is really true. Right, that's another the podcast
- 59:00Speaker 3: for another day. But that actually is a crib note.
- 59:03Speaker 3: That's like a cheat sheet. That's really true. People you
- 59:07Speaker 3: want to turn me off, come to me and ask
- 59:09Speaker 3: me for money, like just complete turn off. I mean
- 59:11Speaker 3: it's simplistic. Also, and also it anyway, and yeah, just
- 59:16Speaker 3: don't do it. Have genuine relationships and genuine interests. Number six.
- 59:22Speaker 3: Build a circle that checks, that checks you, iron sharpens iron.
- 59:27Speaker 3: Your brain needs a crew. Hello again. If you hang
- 59:30Speaker 3: around nine broke people, you'll be the tenth. The opposite
- 59:32Speaker 3: is also true. Number seven. Detach your identity from your results.
- 59:39Speaker 3: You are not your resume. You are your resilience. Number eight.
- 59:44Speaker 3: Play the long game. I can't say, I can't stress
- 59:47Speaker 3: this enough. You make money during the day, you build
- 59:49Speaker 3: well in your sleep. It's another Tony rest quote. Play
- 59:52Speaker 3: the long game. Zoom out of your life. Zoom out.
- 59:56Speaker 3: Stop obsessing on this thing in front of you. I
- 59:59Speaker 3: walk through life constantly oblivious to most things because most
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: things just don't matter.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: Zoom out.
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: This failure you're obsessing on won't even register on your
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: life's map in five years if you keep going again
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: making this bringing this back Home by friend Tony say,
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: if you don't quit, you can't fail. So you're listening
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: to this right now and you've failed recently, good, That
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: means you're in the game. The smartest thing you can
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: do is to stay in the ring, keep swinging and
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: keep learning. Remember, the smartest people don't win because they're smart.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: They win because they're stubborn. They're stubborn about the vision
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: and flexible in their approach. I want you to tell
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: people about this podcast, encourage them to subscribe. Get my book,
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: which is now I'm now out in paperback, Financial Literacy
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: for All. It's still a number one best seller a
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: year after it's issuing. So thank you everybody for that.
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: Financial Literacy for All. I have six books in total.
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- 1:01:25Speaker 3: to get you in this game, in this opportunity economy.
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: And I really run out of time here, and I
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: really should shut up because I've talked way way too much.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: But I also want to leave you with some practical hope.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: So let's say you've been laid off from a job,
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: or you've been one of the people you know that's
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: been fired from the federal government or whatever, and you're
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: trying to figure out how you're going to replace that
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: income and how you reset your life at thirty or
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: forty or fifty years of age. I'm gonna give you
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: some a couple of real practical examples you may not
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: be thinking of. Did you know, And I'm gonna do
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: a social media post just on this, did you know
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: that there's a massive need in the age of artificial intelligence?
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: There's a massive need for by twenty thirty off almost
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: a million plumbers and electricians. And you're like, John, did
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: you say of all that your breath to tell me
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: that hold on, watch check this out. There's a six
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: percent projected annual growth rate for plumbers. There's a need
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: of about forty thousand plumbers a year because people are aging,
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: they're leaving the job. You know, there's enough, you know,
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: there's not enough immigrants and young people coming up to
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: take the positions, which is while we need diversity and immigration,
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: that's a whole other conversation. Electricians not a very similar story.
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: Eleven percent annual growth rate, eighty thousand job openings every year,
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: same sort of situation, and you're like, I'm not interested
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: being a plumber or an electrician. Really check this out,
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: because you can't AI, you're plumbing, can't AI electrically your
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: electrical grid. These are things that we're going to need
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: for ever, and these needs are going to expand, and
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: so check this out. Entry level plumber about fifty two
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year. Hello, you can get you can
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: get a trade certificate for this. You'll need to go
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: to a four year university or college and make fIF
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: twenty five dollars an hour. A journeyman plumber sixty four thousand,
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: sixty five thousand a year, a master plumber meeting income
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: hold on one hundred and ten thousand dollars a year.
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: Overall meeting income for a plumber, you know, sixty one
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: thousand dollars. I mean that's that's solid middle class electrician
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: entry level fifty eight thousand dollars a year, about twenty
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: eight bucks an hour. Intermediate plumber electrician two to four
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: years of experience, sixty eight thousand dollars sixty nine almost
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: sixty nine thousand dollars a year, a senior electrician forty
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: six years of experience. It's like going to college, right,
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: but this is a practical experience. You're making money while
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: you're learning. Seventy four thousand dollars a year. This is
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: like ball and class. Oh and you're your own person.
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: You set your own schedule. In many case, you have
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: your own own business. The overall median for electrician sixty
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: one thousand dollars a year. Now, it could be more
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: than that, less than that. But the point is there
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: are options everywhere. Just again, as my brother Tony said,
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: never ever ever give up. If you don't quit, you
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: can't fail. John O'Brien is Money and Wealth. I'm out
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