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- 1:51Speaker 3: So you're a real estate developer and you've done a
- 1:53Speaker 3: lot of stuff in New York, right, that would lend
- 1:56Speaker 3: me to believe that you may know another real estate
- 1:59Speaker 3: developer that has done a lot of stuff in New York
- 2:00Speaker 3: named Donald Trump. I'm assuming you know him, right?
- 2:05Speaker 1: Yes? Okay? What is he racist? What's your take?
- 2:10Speaker 3: Like, what's your personal what is your personal opinion on
- 2:13Speaker 3: Donald Trump? Because the things that we see are disturbing
- 2:17Speaker 3: a lot of times, right, But I'm always interested to
- 2:20Speaker 3: know what people that actually know somebody, what their thought
- 2:25Speaker 3: process on that person is I don't.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Think that Donald Trump is any more racist than Joe Biden.
- 2:32Speaker 4: And fact, I think his policies have been less oppressive
- 2:36Speaker 4: to our people than Biden's. For example, in nineteen ninety
- 2:40Speaker 4: four Crime Bill, I just can't get over that. I think,
- 2:42Speaker 4: you know, Senator than Senator Biden advocated for that, and
- 2:46Speaker 4: then before that the nineteen eighty six mandatory sentencing that
- 2:49Speaker 4: led to the mass incarceration of primarily black men.
- 2:53Speaker 1: So I don't think.
- 2:55Speaker 4: I mean, I've got a very cordial and friendly relationship
- 2:59Speaker 4: with Lald Trump.
- 3:00Speaker 1: He's done nothing but treat me with respect.
- 3:04Speaker 4: He has never said anything contrary or negative about you know,
- 3:11Speaker 4: black Americans.
- 3:12Speaker 1: To me, the only thing he.
- 3:13Speaker 4: Is ever when the topic of black Americans comes up,
- 3:17Speaker 4: it's a question from him, how can he be more
- 3:21Speaker 4: supportive of black entrepreneurs and what can he do to
- 3:27Speaker 4: get black voters to take a closer look at him
- 3:29Speaker 4: and his candidacy. And I've told him, I think it's
- 3:31Speaker 4: got to be running through economic opportunity. So no, I
- 3:35Speaker 4: don't think that, you know, he's a racist. I do
- 3:40Speaker 4: think that how people approach race in America has evolved
- 3:44Speaker 4: over time. I mean when I was in high school.
- 3:46Speaker 4: Just to give you a perspective, I went to my
- 3:48Speaker 4: last few years of high schools. I was a page
- 3:51Speaker 4: for the House of Representatives. I went to school from
- 3:53Speaker 4: six in the morning of ten thirty and the top
- 3:55Speaker 4: four of the Library of Congress and went across the
- 3:56Speaker 4: street to the US Capital work And I did that
- 3:59Speaker 4: for two Yearshigh school. My last few years, we used
- 4:02Speaker 4: to have visiting senators and congressmen. Every week they'd come
- 4:06Speaker 4: and speak to the school. So one time it was
- 4:09Speaker 4: Robert Burr. He was a majority leader of the United
- 4:12Speaker 4: States Senate, a Democrat, and so we all would do
- 4:15Speaker 4: research on who's coming that week, and so we could
- 4:18Speaker 4: ask him in tell a new questions. Well, Robert Burr,
- 4:21Speaker 4: but was a former ku Kux Klan member. He was
- 4:25Speaker 4: a member of the ku Klux clan in West Virginia,
- 4:28Speaker 4: and he had become the majority leader of the United
- 4:32Speaker 4: States Senate. And his response to that was, back then
- 4:36Speaker 4: that was what people did you know in West Virginia.
- 4:39Speaker 4: They joined the Kukluff plan. I found that to be
- 4:43Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anybody disputes it. That's a
- 4:45Speaker 4: very racist organization. But he became the leader of the
- 4:49Speaker 4: US Senate and did that through the nineteen eighties, so people,
- 4:53Speaker 4: if the party lets him revolve, I just don't understand
- 4:56Speaker 4: what this hang up is with Donald Trump.
- 4:58Speaker 1: We should be looking at.
- 5:00Speaker 4: Donald Trump as a president who's pro business. What will
- 5:04Speaker 4: he do to provide economic opportunities for African Americans. His
- 5:10Speaker 4: view of America and his view of US is dated.
- 5:14Speaker 4: He's almost eighty years old, so his perspective is a
- 5:18Speaker 4: little different and or a lot different, say than others.
- 5:21Speaker 4: But I don't think that he's an outright racist. I
- 5:25Speaker 4: think that he is, you know, somebody that if he wins,
- 5:29Speaker 4: his president that we're going to need to do business with.
- 5:31Speaker 4: And we ought to be getting him to talk about
- 5:34Speaker 4: his policies before a vote, so you can have him
- 5:37Speaker 4: on We can have him on record as a candidate
- 5:40Speaker 4: saying what he will do had he should he win.
- 5:43Speaker 4: And I think he has a good chance of winning
- 5:46Speaker 4: and being president again. And I think that, you know,
- 5:50Speaker 4: it's important for us that we get to be able
- 5:53Speaker 4: to have our agenda moved forward and not put it
- 5:56Speaker 4: on hold just because as a Republican president, I mean
- 6:00Speaker 4: before nineteen sixty, before John Kennedy, Black voters were Republican.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Martin Luther King Sr. Was a Republican and the first
- 6:07Speaker 4: Democrat he ever endorsed with John Kennedy.
- 6:11Speaker 1: I mean, I do have to.
- 6:13Speaker 5: Have a little bit of pushback. So he does not
- 6:16Speaker 5: want to say sorry for what happened with the Central
- 6:18Speaker 5: Park five. His father historically was discriminatory and who he
- 6:23Speaker 5: will let rent police community for black and brown lives
- 6:29Speaker 5: that are taken by police. Now I agree him and
- 6:33Speaker 5: Joe are probably on par but is it fair to
- 6:37Speaker 5: say that he's not a racist at all when he's
- 6:39Speaker 5: clearly I mean, he started the whole He took the
- 6:43Speaker 5: tea party to the next level with MAGA, which I
- 6:46Speaker 5: think is inflammatory, say the least. So are you said that,
- 6:52Speaker 5: Do you think that equally racist or Trump isn't racist
- 6:55Speaker 5: at all?
- 6:55Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, I mean, look, the
- 6:58Speaker 4: last thing I want to do is be, you know,
- 7:00Speaker 4: Donald Trump's advocate. But let me I want to say
- 7:03Speaker 4: a couple of things. One the Central Park five, Donald
- 7:06Speaker 4: Trump had no impact on the outcome of that case.
- 7:09Speaker 4: Those young men were try arrested for a Heina's crime,
- 7:13Speaker 4: tried and convicted in an unfair criminal justice system. But
- 7:18Speaker 4: up until that point, the perception was that that was
- 7:21Speaker 4: a fair system and they were convicted, and then Trump
- 7:24Speaker 4: advocated for the death penalty for a Heina's crime that
- 7:28Speaker 4: people were convicted of.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Well, I don't believe in the I don't believe.
- 7:31Speaker 4: In the death penalty because for the very fact that
- 7:34Speaker 4: had those young men been executed, that they could not
- 7:37Speaker 4: have been released and a mistake made and it cost
- 7:40Speaker 4: him their lives. So I think he was wrong to
- 7:44Speaker 4: advocate for the death penalty. But Joe Biden, with a
- 7:46Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four crime build in the nineteen eighty six
- 7:48Speaker 4: manatory sentence in Guideline, is responsible for five hundred thousand
- 7:52Speaker 4: plus young black men incarcerated and their lives ruined. So
- 7:58Speaker 4: I think that that and he actually was a champion
- 8:01Speaker 4: of the laws that created that mass incarcegration. So I
- 8:05Speaker 4: think that is a very different thing rhetoric versus actual
- 8:09Speaker 4: action with regards to you know, what people's fathers do.
- 8:13Speaker 4: That I mean, so we could eliminate most white Americans
- 8:17Speaker 4: in this country if we help them accountable for what
- 8:19Speaker 4: their parents have done. By the way, Joe Biden is
- 8:23Speaker 4: yet to apologize for the nineteen ninety four crime build
- 8:25Speaker 4: he got percent that he should have and and he didn't.
- 8:30Speaker 4: And uh, and so I think that you know so,
- 8:34Speaker 4: and look, I think that yeah. I mean, I think
- 8:35Speaker 4: some of his police policies are are wrong and they
- 8:38Speaker 4: are oppressive to our young people. But a part of
- 8:42Speaker 4: why our young people are even involved in the criminal
- 8:46Speaker 4: justice system is this lack of opportunity. This country has
- 8:50Speaker 4: deserted us when it comes to economic opportunity, and we've
- 8:54Speaker 4: got to do whatever is necessary to bring economic opportunity
- 9:00Speaker 4: and educational opportunity to our young people. What you all
- 9:04Speaker 4: are doing in terms of financial literacy to our people
- 9:08Speaker 4: is one of the greatest services that you can do
- 9:11Speaker 4: for Black Americans, educating our people about economic policy. This
- 9:15Speaker 4: is a democracy, but it's a capitalistic democracy, and our
- 9:19Speaker 4: democracy rest on the pillars of capitalism. So if we're
- 9:23Speaker 4: outside of capitalism, we really aren't even participants in our democracy.
- 9:27Speaker 1: So I think that's got to be our issue.
- 9:30Speaker 4: And so I mean, do we want to alienate and
- 9:34Speaker 4: not want to do business with Trump if he wins,
- 9:37Speaker 4: If he loses, you move on, and we do business
- 9:39Speaker 4: with Harris. And we've got to hold her accountable. But
- 9:41Speaker 4: if she thinks she's got us all to herself. She's
- 9:44Speaker 4: focusing on the other persuadables, if you will. We need
- 9:48Speaker 4: her to focus on an economic agenda for our people.
- 9:52Speaker 4: And she has some issues with regards to incarcerating black men,
- 9:56Speaker 4: a smaller number, by the way, it's been way overstated,
- 10:00Speaker 4: but in terms of like putting young black men in
- 10:02Speaker 4: jail for you know, you know, marijuana possession, non violent
- 10:06Speaker 4: you know issues here people that the Republicans have been
- 10:10Speaker 4: saying it's tens of thousands. It's less than two thousand,
- 10:12Speaker 4: but I mean, and then of those who went to jail,
- 10:15Speaker 4: it's about twenty percent.
- 10:17Speaker 1: So all wrong, but not in the magnitude.
- 10:20Speaker 4: But I think we need everybody to compete for our vote,
- 10:24Speaker 4: just like everybody else does.
- 10:26Speaker 1: I agree. You can't.
- 10:27Speaker 3: You can't be emotional. I agree with you. You can't
- 10:30Speaker 3: be emotional in business and in politics. And like you said,
- 10:33Speaker 3: I mean, if racism was a was a disqualifying factor,
- 10:37Speaker 3: and we wouldn't even we would never even have a
- 10:39Speaker 3: president other than Barack Obama for the most part. Right,
- 10:41Speaker 3: So right, yeah, you got to take emotion out of it,
- 10:45Speaker 3: and you have to deal with people and have to
- 10:47Speaker 3: hold every single person accountable and You can't get caught
- 10:50Speaker 3: up in emotions just because you like one person or
- 10:53Speaker 3: you dislike another person. That's vitally important.
- 10:56Speaker 1: I think an.
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