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Roger Bonds on Diddy & Cassie’s relationship, Biggie, R. Kelly’s backstage drama with Jay-Z & freeing his son from prison · The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda

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  Speaker 1: So I see, yeah, yo, yeah, yo, like, yo, Barnes,
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  Speaker 1: what's up? I'm like, yo, what's up? We kicking it.
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  Speaker 1: When we get in the hallway, Puffy's like, yo, man,
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  Speaker 1: I want to snuff that 50. I said, what? Because
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  Speaker 1: him and 50, like, and I tell people this all
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  Speaker 1: the time. I'm here. They beef is here. That's outside
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  Speaker 1: of my pay range.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the is going on.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Like if a ask you like, yo, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's over my pay grade.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Because one minute I see these they speak. Next minute
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  Speaker 1: I see these don't speak. I don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't even ask them. But I know I
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  Speaker 1: told them one thing this time. I said, yo, if
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  Speaker 1: you punch that in the face, do you see how
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  Speaker 1: many we got to fight? But that's your man, though.
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  Speaker 1: That's his man. You understand what I'm saying? The only
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  Speaker 1: two lives in life that almost killed me. But see,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people think I'm talking about just the
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  Speaker 1: ditty life that almost killed me. When you get the book,
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  Speaker 1: it's so much that almost killed me. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's get into that. Tell me.
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  Speaker 3: Are we taping? All right, copy. Yeah, talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, see, when you get the book, I focus
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  Speaker 1: on the Diddy situation because, of course, he's Diddy. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the biggest situation. That's bigger than me. Right. But
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  Speaker 1: it's a message that I've been trying to tell for
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  Speaker 1: the longest.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like life, man.
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  Speaker 2: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: We talking about locked up for a body at 16. Right.
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  Speaker 1: We talking about let go, beat that, then get locked
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  Speaker 1: up for another body at 19. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Had to do time for that one, though. But we
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  Speaker 1: talking about that life that almost killed me also. So
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  Speaker 1: we mixing them both. So when you finish with that life,
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  Speaker 1: you thinking like, yeah, okay, I'm ready to get into
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  Speaker 1: this life because I'm tired of that life. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: The music business.
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  Speaker 1: The music business, period.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my shit started getting shot up when I was
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  Speaker 2: in the music business.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, people, this is Roger Barnes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Puff, former security.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, ex-bodyguard for Puff Daddy. He got the book out.
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  Speaker 4: And like he said, it's not all about Puff. It's
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  Speaker 4: about his life in general. And he's just talking about
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  Speaker 4: his situation. He's a good friend of mine. Make sure
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  Speaker 4: y'all go get the book. Where we can get the
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  Speaker 4: book at?
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  Speaker 1: Get the book everywhere. Amazon.
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  Speaker 5: Walmart, Barnes and Noble, Shopify, Books-A-Million.
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  Speaker 1: This ain't the average, just this hood book where I'm
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  Speaker 1: just letting it go for my bio.
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  Speaker 2: It's all over the place.
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  Speaker 4: We both was locked up together. He was one of
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  Speaker 4: the real ones on Rikers. So I told him I
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  Speaker 4: have to have him come on the show. He's not
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  Speaker 4: a guy that's like a gossip guy. a real street dude.
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  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Yeah, but you want to gossip though.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Markman No, no, we don't want to gossip. Rob
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  Speaker 2: Markman No, we don't.
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  Speaker 4: Rob Markman No, we just want to talk some real.
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  Speaker 4: Rob Markman Because like you said, the book is about
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  Speaker 4: your life. That stuff, I knew you for years. I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know that you had a body of I'm charged
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  Speaker 4: at 16.
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  Speaker 2: And then another one at 19. I just know you from.
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  Speaker 3: You beat the body at 16 though, so we beat
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  Speaker 3: that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, beat the body. Beat one body, but got charged
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  Speaker 2: for another, right?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know any of that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the second one I turned myself in for.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? They ain't even care. Matter
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  Speaker 1: of fact, the night- What made you do that, man?
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  Speaker 1: Because it was my man, and that's what I mean
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  Speaker 1: by loyalty.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: That's why I say my loyalty go to a whole different,
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  Speaker 1: like people talk shit about Puffy, that nigga not a
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  Speaker 1: loyal nigga. I'm loyal to a fault. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying? But- When you getting that type of money
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  Speaker 1: and you that type of person and you a narcissist
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  Speaker 1: and you manipulate, you know how to use that against
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  Speaker 1: a person like me. I know he know you. He
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  Speaker 1: ain't going to say nothing. He ain't going to do nothing.
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  Speaker 1: He ain't going to do this. But back to what
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  Speaker 1: you were saying, murder at 19, I got locked up
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  Speaker 1: for a body at the rooftop roller skating rink. Right.
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  Speaker 1: It happened so fast, man, that my man was arguing.
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  Speaker 1: So when I came out, the dude was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: now I'm 19 now. I'm 59 right now. So imagine
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  Speaker 1: what I looked like at 19. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: So it was like, fuck y'all go get him. But
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  Speaker 1: he ain't know my dialogue. Anybody else knew what they
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  Speaker 1: came and got me for. He ain't know what they
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  Speaker 1: came and got me for. So make a long story short,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? My man got locked up
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  Speaker 1: for the body two weeks later. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: The police locked me up first, right? But when the
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  Speaker 1: police ran me, they say, yo, he only 18. They said, yo,
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  Speaker 1: he ain't got no records. So they start asking me
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  Speaker 1: questions about my man who got me by 10 years.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So they like, yo, where
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  Speaker 1: he at? So I see what they doing. So I say, yo,
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  Speaker 1: last time I seen him, he was at the movie theater.
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  Speaker 1: And they kind of figured that I wasn't going to
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  Speaker 1: realize that two of them disappeared. They actually went to
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  Speaker 1: the movie theater that I told them and they was
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  Speaker 1: looking for him. You know what I'm saying? So when
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  Speaker 1: they came back, they said, you know what, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to let him go. Because they said they locked me
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  Speaker 1: up for not having no license. I know for a fact,
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  Speaker 1: everybody know when you grow up in the hood, four
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  Speaker 1: deep is not locking you up for license. Four deep
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  Speaker 1: is homicide.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we taking them in. We taking them in.
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  Speaker 1: You already know. Four deep, that's homicide. You ducking. So
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  Speaker 1: I seen them. So I just played like I ain't
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  Speaker 1: know nothing. I said, nah, not my license.
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  Speaker 3: They let me go.
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  Speaker 1: So I went and told my man. I said, yo,
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  Speaker 1: they let me go. He said, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 1: get the car because the car was in his name.
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  Speaker 1: I said, nah, I don't want the car, yo. I said, yo,
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  Speaker 1: this is about that body. He said, nah, this ain't
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  Speaker 1: about that body, kid. They let you go. And when
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  Speaker 1: he went down there to get the car, they locked
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  Speaker 1: him up for the body. And the police told me
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  Speaker 1: they sell. They said, yo, we know what happened. They said,
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  Speaker 1: but you got your whole life ahead of you. My
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  Speaker 1: man had already been through the system two or three
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  Speaker 1: times for the same thing, but they could never catch him.
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  Speaker 1: So they said, oh, we got him dead to the
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Got you.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So I went and got
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  Speaker 1: the lawyer. I said, listen, if I turn myself in,
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  Speaker 1: what I'm looking at, he said, this is what you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at. He said, I think I can get you
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  Speaker 1: a 5 to 15, a 3 to 9. He said,
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  Speaker 1: because their case is all fucked up now because you
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  Speaker 1: saying you caught the body and the witness they got
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  Speaker 1: is saying that he caught the body.
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  Speaker 3: Got you.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So he said, I can
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  Speaker 1: get you that. I said, you can get me that?
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  Speaker 1: He said, I can get you that. So first I
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  Speaker 1: was like, all right, let me go all the way
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  Speaker 1: with it. But I'm going to be real with you.
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  Speaker 1: My man was calling me every day, yo, kid, you
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  Speaker 1: really going to do that? I said, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: do that, man. I said, yo, but it's December 23rd
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  Speaker 1: right now. I said, I'm going to turn myself in
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  Speaker 1: January 2nd.
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  Speaker 3: I got to enjoy Christmas and New Year's.
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  Speaker 1: I got to enjoy Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: And New Year's. I respect that. That's solid. That's solid.
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  Speaker 1: I said, January 2nd, I'm going to turn myself in.
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  Speaker 1: Let me get the first out the way.
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  Speaker 2: Because your man that was locked up was trying to
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  Speaker 2: get home for Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: He called me every day.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, hold up. A nigga ain't really supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be doing this shit. And I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: real with you. My pops is in my ear. My
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  Speaker 1: father's in my ear.
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  Speaker 2: Your pops is like, yo, you bugging, you bugging.
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  Speaker 1: My father said, yo, you in the streets, he in
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  Speaker 1: the streets, and we know how the streets work. If
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  Speaker 1: you got away, you got away, son. Don't fuck your
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  Speaker 1: life up.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, nah.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with your dad on that one.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with him now, but I ain't agree with
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  Speaker 1: him back then.
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  Speaker 3: Because of how things turned out between you and home,
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  Speaker 3: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, nah, that's my man.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: To this day, that's still my man.
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  Speaker 2: You know that's his man. He took the bid. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And what made me mad about that murder, to tell
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  Speaker 1: you the truth, is when I came home, he ended
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  Speaker 1: up clapping the nigga anyway and doing seven years. So
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  Speaker 1: I said, damn, nigga, you could've took that first one
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  Speaker 1: if that was the case. Word.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? All right, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I get it. Okay, I got it, too.
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  Speaker 2: See, this is why we never do that time for murder.
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  Speaker 2: I always feel that.
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  Speaker 3: Grimey-ass nigga. Y'all see my grimey-ass.
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  Speaker 2: Co-host, man?
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  Speaker 3: Can't fuck with this nigga, man.
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  Speaker 2: You do the time for murder, come out and clap it, nigga.
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  Speaker 1: You come out and clap it, nigga.
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  Speaker 2: Like, when a nigga do something like that, that's what
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  Speaker 2: God told you. Say what your dad said. The streets,
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  Speaker 2: what he said.
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  Speaker 1: We in the streets.
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  Speaker 3: We know how it go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know how it go. We in the streets.
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  Speaker 1: He in the streets.
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  Speaker 2: He a real loyal one for that one.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, you my son and everything. He said,
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  Speaker 1: don't do it. I said, nah, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 1: do it. And I went down there and I did it.
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  Speaker 3: And what'd you want him again for that?
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  Speaker 1: 5 to 15.
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  Speaker 3: 5 to 15? Look at that. Look at that. It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't bad.
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  Speaker 1: I ended up getting 5 to 15. Remember, Cuomo was
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  Speaker 1: in office then, right?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that wasn't bad.
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  Speaker 1: Not only did I get 5 to 15.
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  Speaker 3: For a body back then? Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: Not only did I get 5 to 15, I did
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  Speaker 1: 3 1⁄2. You know what I'm saying? And then they
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  Speaker 1: gave me work release. They don't give work release to
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  Speaker 1: violent people no more. But when Cuomo was in there,
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  Speaker 1: if you went up north and kept your nose clean,
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  Speaker 1: you coming home on the body.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I did three and a half. Then I came out
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  Speaker 1: on work release. But the only thing is on work release,
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  Speaker 1: she slammed me. You know what I'm saying? I went
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  Speaker 1: to the parole board a year and a half. She said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you got this time. And she
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  Speaker 1: gave me two more years, but two more years of
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  Speaker 1: work release. So I ended up doing three and a
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  Speaker 1: half work release. I looked at work release as a
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  Speaker 1: bank because I was getting money. So all I was
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  Speaker 1: doing was taking the money that I got from work
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  Speaker 1: and you got to turn that into work release. And
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  Speaker 1: they hold that for when you leave. I'm at work
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  Speaker 1: release for three and a half years and you holding
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  Speaker 1: my checks. So I walked out of work release. My
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  Speaker 1: car was parked in front of work release. Police used
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  Speaker 1: to laugh at me. You know I seen you get
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  Speaker 1: out of that car, right? Right. You seen me get
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  Speaker 1: out of what car? You parked right around the corner
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  Speaker 1: because you ain't supposed to drive enough in a work release.
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  Speaker 1: I used to park and jump out the tinted window
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  Speaker 1: car and then go in. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Not only that, I see you on 117th Street.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you see me on 117th? So them work release
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  Speaker 1: police be kind of different because They know you in
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  Speaker 1: the streets and they know they see you in the streets.
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  Speaker 1: So it's different. You ever wonder like when you're on
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  Speaker 1: an island sometime or even when you go up north
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  Speaker 1: and you say, where these niggas live at? Because I
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  Speaker 1: don't never see these niggas. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: When you're in work release, you bump into them niggas.
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  Speaker 1: So I used to bump into them all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So long story short, I turned myself in for that.
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  Speaker 1: Ended up doing the 5 to 15. Me and my
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  Speaker 1: man still cool, still tight, but he just stopped getting money.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So when I see these
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  Speaker 1: stories of niggas doing half of what I did, but
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  Speaker 1: they did it for a nigga that's still getting money
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  Speaker 1: and they took care of him, I'd be like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could do this shit all over again.
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  Speaker 1: I'd do this shit for a nigga that's really getting
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  Speaker 1: money for a long time. Not just going to go
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  Speaker 1: out here and kill another. And he killed another nigga
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  Speaker 1: who was robbing everybody. See, one thing about us, we
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  Speaker 1: ain't never getting into no beef with niggas that was innocent.
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  Speaker 1: We got into beef and caught bodies with niggas who
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  Speaker 1: other niggas ain't have enough heart to take care of.
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  Speaker 1: So when you got into it, you ain't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about a whole bunch of niggas telling, because they
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  Speaker 1: was happy the nigga was gone. So you ain't have
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  Speaker 1: to worry about nothing coming behind you. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying? So I did that, came home, chilled for
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  Speaker 1: about five years, and then loyalty caught me again.
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  Speaker 2: And this is all in the book. Make sure you
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  Speaker 2: catch the book.
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  Speaker 1: And loyalty caught me again, but loyalty caught me on
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  Speaker 1: the fair side this time. My man called me from jail.
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  Speaker 1: He said, yo, B, nigga just ran off with eight kids.
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  Speaker 1: So I said, yo, I thought you wasn't hustling no
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  Speaker 1: more because the feds snatched him up. So this is
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  Speaker 1: my man in one aspect. But on another aspect, you
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  Speaker 1: just showed me that you wasn't my man because you
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  Speaker 1: were scared to fuck with me when you was locked up.
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  Speaker 1: So you lied to me and told me you wasn't
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  Speaker 1: hustling no more. Because you were scared to give me
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  Speaker 1: some shit so I could rock. So what he did
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  Speaker 1: was he gave his girl some shit. So his girl,
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  Speaker 1: niggas know that his girl, that he locked up. So
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  Speaker 1: when niggas get the eight keys from his girl, they say, yo,
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  Speaker 1: fuck you. We're not paying you. So now everything that
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: goes around comes around. He comes back and he calls me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I need you to go holler at somebody. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to skip the fact that you were still
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  Speaker 1: doing what you're going to do. But yo, what happened?
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  Speaker 1: Now he trying to tell my girl, she got to
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  Speaker 1: give him some pussy and all that if he don't
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  Speaker 1: get it. I said, all right, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 1: holler at the nigga. So for me going to holler
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  Speaker 1: at the nigga, I never knew that my man was
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  Speaker 1: on the telephone and he caught me from that room
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  Speaker 1: where them people come and get you. Come on. So
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  Speaker 1: he's calling me with them people on the phone already.
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  Speaker 1: So I just talked my way into a case. Because
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  Speaker 1: I told the nigga I was going to go holler
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  Speaker 1: at the nigga. In which I did go holler at
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  Speaker 1: the nigga, right? The niggas, yo, I ain't know, yo, yo,
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  Speaker 1: it's over. But now the feds is looking for this nigga.
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  Speaker 1: So the girl goes and tells him, and my man
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  Speaker 1: tells him the situation, and says, yo, my girl can't
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  Speaker 1: find him. So guess who they come get? They come
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  Speaker 1: get me to find that nigga. So I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what's my charge? Oh, a telephone charge, zero to five years.
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  Speaker 1: I said, all right, so give me the five. And
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  Speaker 1: I got up from the table and I left. And
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  Speaker 1: I ended up doing that whole pound. And the charge
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  Speaker 1: carries from zero to five. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: So they could have let me walk up out of
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: there and go home. But being that I didn't play
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: baseball with them niggas, they said, okay, you're going to
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: get the whole five. So they gave me the whole five.
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: Don't call me on them jail phones, man.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I tell everybody that now.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Don't call on them jail cell phones either.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Because one of my mans was with me when he called.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: And nigga was in the back like this. Tell that
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: nigga I'm here with you. But I ain't get it.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking this my man. He ain't gonna do
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: that to me, yo. And sure enough, he was on
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: the phone with them people.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: He did that. Look at that.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: There you go, man.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: Don't talk on the phone. So that's why I say loyalty.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So now we get to
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: the puff situation.
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fast forward to that. Because, you know, we was
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: on the island together with Shelton, my man, Bonds. Like,
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: we got, this is my homie. And now we, you know,
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: he was on his way to success as well as
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: me at the same time on the island.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: So, you know, I came home. He came home around
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: the same time, I believe. Right, right.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Nah, nah, then you went back.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went back the next day for a little
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: passport shit, right?
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: But you was home and you was with Puff. How
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: did you meet Puff Daddy? I know you from Harlem, but.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: Nah, well, I was with Loon first.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: I was with Loon first. That was my man from
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: a kid. I was with Loon first. And then one
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: of my mans that came home from a body ended
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: up getting with Puff. But I used to take him
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: down there all the time. So Uncle Paulie was like, yo,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: I be seeing that kid with Loon all the time. Yo,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: what's the story? My man said, oh, you don't know Barnes?
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Long story short, he gave me the stamp. So he said, yo,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: come on down. Yo, we want to talk to you.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: So when I went down there to talk to him,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: you know, we started rocking together. And then it was
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: a situation with Jay-Z and R. Kelly in Madison Square Garden.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, you was there for that?
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: They was on tour. Oh, yeah.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Jay-Z and R. Kelly.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I think Ty Ty may star Kelly back in the days.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: So I was there for that.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Allegedly. So what happened?
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened there?
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened? All right.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: So what happened was me and Puff went in. Me
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: and Puff went in. We was in the audience. And
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: then the lights went out. And the whole Madison Square
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Garden for about 10 seconds. And then the lights came
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: back on. And R. Kelly was like, yo, I can't
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: do this. And he just dropped the mic and walked off.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: So Puff looked at me. He said, yo, is that
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: shit for real, boss? I said, I don't know. I'm
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: out here just like you, man. I said, yo. And
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: he took off. So he took off running backstage. Now,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: mind you, we in the regular audience.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Who took off running backstage, Puff?
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Puff.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: So, you know, when security see him, you know how
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: they be downstairs and they keep that line. When they
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: see him, of course, they going to move it. That's
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Puff Daddy. So he runs up on Jay-Z. And he said, yo,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: what's up? And Jay-Z was like, yo, man, what the fuck?
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: You read behind him? You read behind Puff? Yeah, I
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: was with him.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: It was just me and him.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So he said, yo, B, this nigga just left. So
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I give it to Puff. You know what I'm saying?
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: He said, yo, don't worry about it. He said, yo,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: we got this. He took the chain off his neck.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: He had the big, crazy chain on. He gave it
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: to Jay-Z. He said, all of us is here. Mary
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: J was there. Your man Ja Rule was there.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? You know what he mean, nigga.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: So everybody was there and Tata was standing right next
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: to me. So they talked for about 10 minutes. So
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: now R. Kelly and them getting ready to get back
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: on stage. So Tata was like, nah. Jay-Z went out front,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: started performing again, telling everybody what's going on. So Tata
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: took the mace out of his pocket. I grabbed Puff,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I threw Puff behind me, because I ain't gonna lie,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: R Kelly and them people had the hammers and everything out.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they had the hammers out.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: See, R Kelly is really a goon.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had the hammers out. So I pushed Puff
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: behind me. You know what I'm saying? Puff was like this.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: He was like this in the back. I was like, yo, man,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: just get back here, man. Just get back here.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just chill out, man.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got this. You know what I'm saying? But
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: it's the first time he ever been with me, so
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: he really don't know, you know, what's going to happen.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: How you move.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So then Ty Ty grabbed the dude. I
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: punched the first kid to try to get up on stage.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: And then Ty Ty just hit everybody else.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: One of our Kelly mans?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of our Kelly mans.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, got it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: So now, Puff see this. Now he really hyped. Oh shit,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: so he, I get me, now at this time I'm 260,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: if you remember. I'm 260 and the muscle's coming out
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: my shoulder.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: So I done popped.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: This nigga right, put Puff behind me and Puff said,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: yo get Ty, get Ty. So I grabbed Ty and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: me and Ty run right across the stage that Jay-Z
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: is on, performing. We run right across, cause now the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: police is looking for Ty Ty. Cause everybody's like this
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: back there. And yo, even R. Kelly, man, is like, yo,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Ty Ty, why you did that? Why you did that?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, come on, B, let's get the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: fuck out of here. So when we got about in there,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I put Ty Ty on the yellow cab and I
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: went to daddy's house. And then later on that day,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Puff called me. He said, yo, where you at? I said,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I'm at daddy's house. He said, yo, come to 4040, man.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Somebody want to meet you. I said, who? He said, Jay.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Jay keep asking me, who you? Ty was talking about you. So,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? I went and met Jay
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: from there. And that's how the whole situation after that night,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Puff was like, yo, B, I'm comfortable. I'm comfortable with this.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: You seen him knock down one of R. Kelly's bands?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: And that was the album Best of Both Worlds. Remember?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the Best of Both Worlds. So now
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: the funny thing about that is your man Fat Joe.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Okay. Joe was there?
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Nah, Fat Joe wasn't there. But now Fat Joe calls Puff.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I said, yo, you know who you got with you, right?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: He said, ooh, you got bonds with you? Yo, Puff,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: he the truth. So after that, Puff was like, yo, what?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Because Puff ain't know me. So Joe spoke up on me,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? And Joe had a B
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: for game in them back in the days from the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: 50 Cent situation. So Puff, man, what's his name from
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: out of L.A.? The game talk about him on the app, DMACC.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: So DMACC is, Game is doing a show, but Joe
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and them is down there at the spot. So Puff
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: calls me, said, yo, I need you to do me
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a favor. What? I need you to go with DMACC
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: because Joe already told me how you and him is.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: So I need you to roll with DMACC down there
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: just to make sure ain't no situation jump off. And
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: ever since then, I started rocking with homie each and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: every day. So he knew the loyalty was there because
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: it came from so many different people in the business. Like, yo, homie,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you don't know? So that's when I say the loyalty
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: almost killed me because now it's a such thing as
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: loyalty to a fault. Nigga like me is loyalty to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the fault. Like, you got to really bring it to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: me and show me that this motherfucker ain't my man.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like that too. I feel like that too.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: And in reality, that's bad.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: When you already be seeing signs. But you keep like
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: ignoring it a little bit like.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Nah, it's my, but you see signs. You try to
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: ignore this shit.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I think when you over loyal, it makes your circle
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: smaller and it's more isolation.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: You more by yourself.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I think it's just because when you have people around
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: your whole life being loyal to, and you nowhere.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: And then you'll see people.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Come around and you'll be down with Puff and you'll
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: be sitting there and he won't throw you a bone,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: but see that's one thing I respected about 50 is
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: because from the beginning, when I came home, I lived
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: in Battery Park.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I lived by the Statue of Liberty.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I came to the apartment.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: I used to see the Statue of Liberty at my
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: apartment because he knew it was a gamble. If you
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: go back to the hood, ain't no telling what's going
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: to happen. Especially beefing with the people we beefing with.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, I was fortunate enough to
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: be in a good situation. Some people might say, you're glazing.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: You're glazing 50, whatever.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Are you a fan? No, it's not that. It's the loyalty.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So My loyalty to a foe is to certain people. Murda,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I knew him. He came around. I'm loyal to him.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: That's my brother. We got the show together. We got
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the dispensary, unit dispensary. Shout out to them.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: So I know what you're saying. Loyalty to a foe.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You've been through a lot. You know what I'm saying?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: But I feel like if you stay loyal and stay
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: on that lane, look at you now. You on our show.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Because you're loyal. You know what I mean?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: No question.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: No question.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: It's like loyalty.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Loyalty is... It's deep, my nigga. Like loyalty, like when
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: you really sit down and think about what is loyalty,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you got a lot of people that say that they loyal,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: but can't show you proof of their loyalty. Yeah, you
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: loyal to the dollar. But what if I'm not getting
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: no money? Is you loyal to me?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Facts. You know what I'm saying?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Facts.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So it's a difference between loyal to the dollar and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: then being loyal. My man couldn't do nothing for me.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: where he was at. But I'm still loyal. I can't
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: forget about the nights that we hung out together, the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: money that we got together, the times we had together,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the times we said, yo, I love you, my nigga.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Like, I love you, my nigga. Like, for real, stop
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: for a second.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Times when it was fucked up together, nigga, when we
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: both ain't have nothing together. When we ain't have nothing.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: So when you started speaking your truth, right, about situations
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: with Puff and people, certain people from his camp looking
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: at you like you're.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Not loyal or you... Or not whatever. Why you feel
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: like they feel like that?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I think because first of all- Or what made you even.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Get to that point?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: What made me get to that point was Cassie.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Right. Right?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I used to talk to Cassie first of all. Why
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you going through this, this, that, and that? But Cassie
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: was the type of person that when she got high,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: she going to tell this nigga everything that y'all talked about.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Copy.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Got you.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You know, Barnes was asking me why I'm still with you.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And then the next thing I got this one, yo,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: why you all in my business playboy?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Damn, that's crazy.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Oh shit. You know what
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Like it's times where, you know, we all move around.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know how y'all was moving around, but I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: would grab all puff jewelry, all puff money, everything else.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's how we was moving.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And it was a time where one of my homies
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: left a diamond ring on the cabinet inside one of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the houses. So when I got out to LA, he said, yo, Barnes,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: can you do me a favor? Get that diamond ring
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and hold it for me. And being that I didn't
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: leave it, I went and got it, but I didn't
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: have the responsibility the way that I would if I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: was the type of person that left it. I was like, yo,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: this nigga left it. I got it. I threw it
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: in my pocket. I put it in the tissue. Later
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: on that day, I threw the tissue away.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But I didn't realize I threw the tissue away until
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: later on that night.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: So does this nigga think you stole it?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Nah, he didn't think I stole it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: But I lost it, right? But I'm the type of nigga,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I handle everything for my own. He got the shit
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: from Lorraine Schwartz. I know Lorraine Schwartz now personally from
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: being with Puff.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So I go up there myself. I say, you know
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that ring? One ring was hear no evil, see no evil.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And the other one, hear no evil, see no evil,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: speak no evil. Right. So this was a speak no
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: evil diamond ring. $ 13, 000. Just one little pinky ring, right? Mm-hmm.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I went up there and told her, I said, listen,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I ain't got 13 for you right now. I got
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: two for you right now, but I'm going to bring
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you one every week. I said, we don't need to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: talk about this. So she said, this is what I'm
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: going to do for you, Barnes. She gave me a
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: see no evil, even though he had no evil.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: She gave me the ring. So I put the shit
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: back in the safe like it never was gone. Guess
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: what happens?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: What?
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: One of these nights that Cassie gets high with this nigga,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: she runs to tell him, you know Barnes lost my ring.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: So next thing I hear, somebody over the speaker, Barnes, Barnes,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: pick up the, pick up, pick up. So I'm in
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: my room, yo, what's up bro?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: But why'd you even go tell Cassie?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Why, huh?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Why'd you even tell her?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Because it was her ring.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So I had to tell her that it wasn't a
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: hair no evil.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: All right, got you.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a sin no evil, it was a hair
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: no evil.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: All right, got you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: So I had to like on the, but you really.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: On the low tone, like yo, listen. Yeah, yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: She knew it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Was an issue once he wrapped it in, that makes sense.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Once he wrapped it in tissue, threw it in the garbage.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I knew it was an issue.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But I know at the end of the day, when
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you hear so many speeches about niggas always stealing, niggas
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: always doing this, niggas don't take care of their own self.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: You stepping up as a man now, going above and beyond.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I went to Lorraine Schwartz herself.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Because you don't want to look like you booked her
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: for it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to pick those. At the end of the day,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I told him, I said, yo, he said, but this
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: ain't the same, because he got to say something now. Yo,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: my nigga, this ain't the same ring though. My nigga,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it's the same ring. It's just got this. All right,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I said, yo, Puff,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I said, didn't you tell me you tired of niggas
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: depending on you?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So what the nigga had, but you had a loudspeaker button, like,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: come to the office.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Nah, nah, nah, that's how the whole house is wired.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: What you mean?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like intercom, just like in
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the office.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Intercom type shit. Intercom.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: So you could press one joint and it go all
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: over the house?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: All over the house. Like your bones gonna pull up
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: on the nigga.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So like, this is like, your bones, somebody at that
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: front gate.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that nigga hit you
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: like the president. Like, Bones, get to my office.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or if the nigga say Bones, like, yeah, once
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I pick up the phone, can't nobody else hear. Cassie
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: D'Antonio again.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Cassie D'Antonio again.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: My nigga, it's 2 o'clock in the morning. I already
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: know what it is.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: It's 2 o'clock in the morning. We in the Miami house.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So the studio's in the guest house. Right. I live
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: in the studio. He in the main house. Right. So
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: when he called me and said, where you at? I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: got some shorties outside. I'm right in front drinking champagne
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: because he in the house. So I'm cool. Yo, yo, yo,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: come upstairs. Come upstairs mean come to my room. You
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in your room with your girl, I already know what
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: she told. You know what I'm saying? So I walk
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: in there like, yo, yo, yo, no. He said, man,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: go in the safe and get that ring for me.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: So I went in the safe, got the ring, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I knew. I said, yeah. So, but it was, nigga,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, It's the same ring.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: What you going to say? So he really couldn't say nothing.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But that's just to say that everything I did lawyer-wise,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: she always bit me in the ass. So now even
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: when this case came out, there wasn't no other security.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: There wasn't no other assistant. There wasn't no other nobody
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: in there. And I ain't been with Puff in 10
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: years as far as being with him every day. I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: still was with Serap up until 2023. But being with
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Puff every day, I wasn't with him. So, and I
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: tell people, I say, yo, why you think she put
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: my name in that lawsuit? She said, yo, the only
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: person that helped me when Puff was beating me up
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was Roger Barnes. She said, that's the only person. Now,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: she dropped her lawsuit in 2024, right?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, she had a lawsuit against you?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I'm against him. She put his lawsuit
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in in 2024. I left his side 2012. So you
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: going to tell me in another 12 years, well another,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: because they broke up in 2018.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: You think if he would have paid that nut, because
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I heard he told her like beat sand or something.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Nah, he told her 10 million. She said no, 30 million.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: He thought it was a fucking game. He was sitting
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: on that lawsuit for six months.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: And 30 million ain't nothing for him.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And he ain't tell nobody.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: If he would have just paid her, none of that
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: shit would have happened.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: None of that shit would have happened. It would have
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: got swept underneath the rug.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Because she opened the whole case.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you what happened. I spoke
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: to him the day before, right? I spoke to him
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the day before.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: But he still paid her though, right? Huh? He still
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: caught the case. He still caught the case.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he still had to pay her 30 million.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: But you was about to say that he spoke to her.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: She got 30 million from him and then she got
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: another 20 million from the Intercontinental Hotel.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Damn. Because they the ones that hid the tape.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: All that time.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, when he was beating her in the tail and
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: all that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So she got 20 million. So she got $ 50 million altogether.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: So you spoke to him the day before though?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I spoke to him the day before the lawsuit dropped, right?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: It ain't no secret. Everybody know my son is locked
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: up in Africa.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you was talking about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Your son locked up in Africa?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my son been locked up for murder in Africa
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: since 2010. You know what I'm saying? Since he was,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: matter of fact, he was 20 years old. He went
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: over there for something else. He got into the middle
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of some shit that he don't know what he going
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: all the way across seas to get into. And he
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: walked into another person murdering the person that he was
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: supposed to sit down and talk to. But being that
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: he was from America, they said, oh, they the ones
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that murdered him.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So we've been fighting that case since back then. But
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I called Puff the day before because I needed $ 20, 000
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: because the lawyer was telling me, I need $ 20, 000. Right?
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: So I said, yo, I need $ 20, 000. So he said, damn, Playboy,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I ain't got it right now.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Right? That is what he told me. Now I'm watching
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you do everything just like everybody else watching. You know
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? So he said, damn, Playboy, I ain't
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: got it. So he said, but I may need you though.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: So when he said, I may need you, I said, okay,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I've been running this Ciroc shit in Atlanta for some
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: years now. He got this DeLeon shit now. I said, okay,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: he must want to get DeLeon because he was suing Diageo.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: So I said, he must want to get back in
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the game. Okay, come on. I got Atlanta sewn up.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. I got the kid Alex, AG, all
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: of them with me. So let's do it. We gonna
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: sell this shit out. But what he called me, what
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: he said he was gonna need me for is because
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: he knew Cassie had put my name in the lawsuit.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Cause I told you he was sitting on the lawsuit
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: for six months. But I ain't know nothing about it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit. So then he calls me back. He says, yo,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I may need you. What you may need me for?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: He still don't tell me. The next morning, his manager,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: James Cruz, called me and said, yo, Barnes, man, you
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: know your name is in this. I said, my name
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: is in what? He said, Cassie just sued Diddy. I said, yo,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: this is Rat motherfucker. He said, what? I said, man,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: this nigga just told me yesterday he ain't got 20,000,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: but he may need a favor from me. Because see,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: at first he was planning to take her all the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: way to the door. And then he called me, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: this is a narcissist again, if anybody been around a narcissist.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: He going to tell me what he want me to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: tell these people. Because now the post is calling me
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and everybody is calling me, who's Barnes? Who's Roger Barnes?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Who's this?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: So now he's getting back to me. So somehow they
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: get my number and all that shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: So he says, I may need you because she put
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: your name in the lawsuit. So I may need you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to take the stand for me. And say, yo, you
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: ain't seen nothing. You seen regular shit. Yeah, we fought.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: This is him talking to me. Yeah, we fought and everything.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And we went back and forth. But you seen regular
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: couple shit. Wasn't nothing crazy or nothing. So I'm sitting there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: All right. I'm like, yo, if you want to get
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: in touch with me, playboy, hit KK. Hit such and such. Yo,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: if you can't get through me, yo, it ain't nothing
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: personal because the nigga been decking my phone calls now
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: for 10 months. So now you decking my phone call
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: for 10 months, but yet you're going to call me
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and tell me that you need something. And now one
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: day yesterday, she called me and said, yo, I got
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: puffed for you on the phone. So now all this
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: is leading because nothing this nigga do is not calculated.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Everything he do is for a reason. I'm going to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: need bonds in a second. You know what I'm saying?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Just in case I go all the way. So he said,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I offered her 10 million, but she want 30 million.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not paying that. But then the next day was
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the deadline for her to drop the case. So she
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: had to put in the case. And then the shit
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: just went crazy from there. But he was expecting exactly
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: what I just said. My loyalty to be to the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: point where Barnes ain't never getting on no podcast. Barnes
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: ain't never talking about this, this, that, and the other.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: But I tell everybody to work for him. First of all,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: y'all not going to do nothing. You know what I'm saying?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: So cut the bullshit out. I already know that. You
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Second of all, everybody who was
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: in the middle of some shit is me. You know
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? I can go back to a time
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: where I seen Yayo and 50 of them. I think
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we was at the BET Awards.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right? And they was about 20 deep. And it
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: was nobody but me and Puff. First of all, I'm
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: mad because the nigga made me get suited and booted
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: for this shit.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I ain't want to get suited and booted.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Because when shit pop off, man, you got me in
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: some slippin' slides.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You got the slippin' slides on.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: But, you know, you Puff, you the, you know, okay,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: we got to keep it corporate. I understand. So I see, yeah, yo, yeah, yo, like, yo, Barnes,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: what's up, nigga? I'm like, yo, what's up? We kicking it, boy, boy.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I remember that, yep.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: When we get in the hallway, Puff is like, yo, man,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I want to snuff that nigga 50. I said, why?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Because him and 50, and I tell people this all
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the time, I'm here. They beef is here. That shit
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: is outside of my pay range. I don't know what
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the fuck is going on. You know what I'm saying?
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: If a nigga asks you, I don't know, nigga, that's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: over my pay grade.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Because one minute, I see these niggas, they speak. Next minute,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I see the niggas don't speak. I don't know what's
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: going on, so I don't even ask them. But I
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: know I told him one thing this time. I said, yo,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: if you punch that nigga in the face, do you
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: see how many niggas we.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Got to fight?
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: But that's your man, though. Nigga, that's his man. You
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying? And this is exactly what I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: told him. I said, my nigga, I said, this is
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: his man. And he said, yo, you right, you right,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you right. And later on that day, We ended up
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: talking to Puff. And Puff even told him. Puff was like, yo,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: my nigga, you got that nigga with you. And Puff
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, but
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: 10 minutes ahead of time, you wanted to.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: You mean 50 told him that you got that nigga
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: with you?
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Nah, nah, Yayo had told Puff.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: See, Puff was in my ear the whole time to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: get in touch with Yayo. Yo, that's your man, that's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: your man. Talk to him so he can get it
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: in 50 years. You know what I'm saying? I lied
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to him and tell him, yeah, yeah, yeah, I spoke
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to him, but I really didn't. But this night when
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that happened, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: He see you and your yo in the rack like, yo,
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: my nigga was good and all that.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: So okay.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, yo, but nigga, that's not my man
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to the point. that he going to not look the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: other way for his man. That's like a nigga walking
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: up on you at that particular time. You know what
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? I can't say nothing to niggas. Yale going
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to get up and do what he got to do.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So Puff thought about it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: He said, yeah, right. But then we go, right after that,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: we go to Vegas. And I've been seeing this shit
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: circulate a lot with 50 Jumped on the Stage with
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Jay-Z and T.I.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I was right there.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was crazy. Kanye shit.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: 50 just bombarded the stage.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yo, and this is my word. That shit was not,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I'm here to tell everybody on here, that shit was
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: not planned. 50 ain't give a fuck. You know what
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? That nigga jumped on that stage and niggas
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: was like, You know what I'm saying? And I forgot
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the big ball-headed dude that used to be with him
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: all the time. Big ball-headed dude.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Back in the, we talking 2005, 2006.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I remember that 50 Jump Doors thing. Was that Fred, Bobby?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Nah, nah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Big, big dude. About 6'4, 6'5. Ball-headed.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Was it Chris Lighty? Rest in peace.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's who it was.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Something that used to be with Chris Lighty.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: That's what I think. Fuck him for giving his name.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Rest in peace to him, too.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, he died?
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he passed away.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I don't see him no more.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big, big dude.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I forgot his name.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I knew him.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: He was there. You know what I'm saying? And that's
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: why the respect thing comes in with me because whether
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it's one of y'all, two of y'all.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Was it Rich?
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Rich? It was.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: It was. It was. It was.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: It was. It was.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: It was. It was.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: It was. It was. It was. It was. It was.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: It was. It was. It was.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: It was. Talk a lot of killer shit, a lot
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: of gangster shit and all that. I said, my nigga,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: at this particular point in time, homie wasn't running with
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: a million people. You know what I'm saying? So if
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: y'all really built the way y'all say, that's where I
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: come from. I come from that school.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I remember going backstage and him and Jay, Jay was
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: laughing about it. And I think Will Smith was back there.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of big names back there. It
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: was like a crazy moment.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: And that's why I say the game is so phony.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: The industry game is so, the industry, you know, it's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: so the same people that's laughing in my face now,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the same people that talk to me now, the same
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: people that talk to me about the book, I read comments.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I see them saying people underneath Puff, yeah, you keep
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: doing this. Yo, yo, don't worry about that. Don't worry.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: But then when y'all see me, it's a different story.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: To me, that's a coward. You know what I'm saying?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Because if you feel that way about, we ain't got
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: no beef. We ain't got to be cool. You siding
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: with homie about the situation, that's cool with me. But
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: y'all want to laugh and joke with him and then
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: come laugh and joke with me, then come laugh and joke. Nah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: it's not like that. We going to build that business.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Because a lot of dudes in the industry are for sale.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: No, it is for them.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: They for sale.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: That's how you never know if somebody going to line
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: you up because.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: The dude could be like, yo, take this 10, take
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: this 20.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: I still get some money with him, man, so let
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: me play it cool.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I can still get some money with him when he
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: come home. I'm going to figure out a way to
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: try to get him.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of dudes that do that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I tell people all the time, man, and
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I said it the other day, man, Puff going to
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: have a lot of fights when he come home. He
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: going to have a lot of fights, man, because there's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: no way, form, or fashion you could tell a nigga, yo, be...
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: You could come at a nigga like you really want
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to fight or you really want some beef. And I
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: know you've been playing with nuts on your chest. Like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I can't, like, how we go? No, pause.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Go fast.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: They might not say it in front of your face,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: but as soon as you walk away, that's the conversation
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: that they going to be having. Be who that nigga
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: think he is. Be that nigga. It's the same way
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: if you win it. I don't know how he living
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: in jail. You know what I'm saying? But it's the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: same way. If it was the average person that went
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: in jail for what he went to, You know what
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? You would have a lot of problems because nigga,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you like big, black, whatever, whatever. You know what I'm saying?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: So you would have that type of problem that he
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: probably not going through because he puffed. But it's going
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to always be niggas whispering behind your back. Or niggas
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: that like, niggas that, and I ain't going to lie,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: a puff is the type of nigga that will fight.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: He ain't playing with them guns, but he going to
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: fight you all day long. You know what I'm saying?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I used to have a child telling me, yo B,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: why you want that? Niggas ain't fighting. Nigga ain't going
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to want to fight you, my nigga. Them niggas got niggas, niggas.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? But that's a true story.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And I tell people that
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: story all the time. I say, yo, homie, and I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: don't mean to talk about this on your platform, man,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: but when I heard that shit about Blackcox and all
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that shit, I remember one time, man, and this is
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: in the book too.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Make sure y'all get that book, man.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Make sure y'all get that. Life did almost kill me.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: We was in Caesar's Palace in Vegas one night, right?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It's just me and Puff. So I got my room,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: he got his suite. He calls me, yo, yo, what
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: you doing, nigga? Because sometimes I just go venturing. You
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? I said, no, I'm in my
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: room waiting on something. He said, come over here, yo.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: That niggas gave me a two-floor room and all that shit.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: It ain't nobody over here but me. Take a room upstairs.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: So I said, cool, fuck it. So he said, but yo,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I need you to do me a favor. I said, yo,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: what you need me to do? I need you to
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: go to the sex store for me, yo. So, you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I go to the sex store here and there, so
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I don't mind.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, nigga.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: You know, we used to go to the joint and
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: hustle on Sunset. You know what I'm saying?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: But he's like, yo, now I need you to go
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: to the joint. But I need you to go get
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: me something. I'm like, what you need me to go
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: get you, nigga?
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: He said, I need you.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: To go get me one of them extra big black joints, right?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: So I said, yo, pause, right?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: So he said, Shorty is coming over. So he told me, Shorty.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: So I been knew who Shorty is. I'm like, damn,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: she coming? He said, yeah, B, that bitch like big
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: black joint.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: So pause again. I ain't want to say, you know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: you call all these bodies and shit.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: I relate to certain niggas that put all the work
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: in and shit, but certain shit just need some pauses.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pause, pause, pause. I know, yeah, I'm here, yeah. Yeah, right, yo.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Take the big black joint, pause.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: That's a couple. So I'm like, I'm going to joint.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And I get the joints.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I know you felt wild buying that shit though. I'm
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: going to be real with you. Going there and buying
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: that shit, nigga?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be real with you.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: That shit ain't even bothering me. Nah, nah, nah. Buying
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: that joint ain't bothering me.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Because you know you wasn't entertaining.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Just me going to the store buying that shit.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you might feel like that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I can see you sending me to buy like some
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: like some pills or something, but that shit?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Like, yo, get the biggest dildo you can find, pause.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Like, come on, that's crazy, man. So I went and
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: got it, right? So he said, I came, I brought
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it back to him, right? So he said, yo, so
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: he said, I can't wait for Shorty to get here, right?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, he said, yo, B, I might
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: even let you get some, yo. I said, Shorty? I said,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Shorty bad, right? Yo, this is my word, I'm upstairs
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: in my room, And I hear him in there knocking shorty, right? Yeah.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: So now when this shit comes out about everything, you know,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: your mind going to go all the way back. So
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: my mind went all the way back. When I'm watching
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: this Cassie shit and Cassie told me, oh, this nigga
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: like big black this, big black that. And I'm like,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: hold up. Was that joint that night for this nigga?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Or was it for the girl? Pause. Damn, pause. Because
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, this shit had me going crazy now.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: And this was back in 2010 when this shit happened.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So now, 2025, I'm like,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: was this shit for him? This dirty motherfucker. Because he
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: never let me see Shorty. Like he promised. So I'm
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: saying to myself, damn, the nigga never let me see
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Shorty that night. I went and got the joint. Shorty
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: talking about this, that, that. So I said, damn, that
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: was for that nigga. You know what I'm saying? So
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I started thinking all the way back to all the
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: situations and all the predicaments where things happen. And my
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: loyalty was always in the middle of it. You know
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, even when niggas were saying stuff,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: because they niggas ain't just start talking about Puff.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Niggas been talking about Puff for 20 years. Right. You
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? And me, myself, I was on
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the front line, my nigga. You're not going to be
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: talking about homie like that if I'm, yo, homie get
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that nigga. I see the nigga with a girl every
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: fucking night. You know what I'm saying? Woo, woo, woo. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: But when this shit happened, man, I had to go
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: back and I just had to start thinking about things.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Because see, one thing you might not know, my man
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: right there might know, when you doing security and you
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: holding a nigga down, you can't wait for a day off.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: So when you get a day off, you don't pay
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: attention to really what that nigga doing, cause you just
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: so happy you got your day off. So it'd be
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: days that Puff be like, yo, this weekend I'm gonna
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: stay in Beverly Hills Hotel. Oh, you gonna stay there
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: this weekend? Yeah, y'all niggas can have the house. That's
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about. I got this fucking house. I
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: got these shorties from my lane. But we having a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: party this weekend, right? I'm not thinking about the nigga
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: that I just seen get on the elevator. and pressed
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the same floor that Puff getting on, got off on.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about that. People say, yo, you had
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: to see this. You had, nah, you not thinking about that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: You thinking about your next move. You know what I'm saying?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You got whatever vehicles down there, whatever vehicles at the house.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I got the weekend, but then when everything start playing
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: back on me, and I start thinking about, damn, this
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: nigga did call me and told me, and I seen pictures,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: this nigga told me to make sure this nigga got
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: in the club.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Damn, that's that same nigga there. I had to go
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: get from the club that night. Or this the same
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: nigga that I got on the elevator. You know what
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? So the loyalty shit right there, I think
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: that was the last. Not that it's going to change
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: my loyalty because it's just certain people that gone to
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: your loyalty. It's certain people that no matter what, you
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: can't tell me nothing about. But I learned that if
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: it's really not like that person that showed me their loyalty,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I really can't stand up for them no more. In
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: any type of way, whether it's the state bid, the
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: fed bid, this street shit, whatever it is. If you
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: ain't showed me and I ain't got proof of it,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: that's how I'm moving and that's how I'm living now.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: So out of everything that came out of this whole
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: situation and this whole case, it came out of me
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to make me look deeper into people. Make me look
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: deep into this music industry. Make me look deep into
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the people that say, yo, I'm with you. Because a
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: nigga quick to say, I love you. Especially in the industry.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Everybody says, I love you.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Everybody really, I love you.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Love you, bro. My bro. Love you, bro.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Until something bad happens.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Until something bad happens. And let me tell you, who
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: take the word love more deeper than anybody? A street nigga.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: A street nigga take that word love deeper than any
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: industry or anybody else. Because when I say I love you,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: my nigga, I love you, my nigga. And nine out
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: of ten, when we first tell each other that is
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: when we don't have nothing. So when I'm telling you this,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: all we got is this. And all we got is us.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And what a lot of
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: industry cats don't understand, they don't understand that. You know,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: because it's just the way they feel.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: They're just using the word, man.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just saying y'all love it. It sound cool.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: It sound cool.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: It sound like that. But I'm going to tell you
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: what hurt me more is in one aspect I say
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: they phony, but then in another aspect I say they
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: real because I've sat there and watched Puff do a
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: whole lot for a lot of motherfuckers that didn't give
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: a fuck about him. but just had a situation or
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: position that he might have needed or wanted to be
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: involved with. You know what I'm saying? We're here to
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: do everything for him. I done heard they get, yo,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Lil Wayne need a lawyer. Yo, let me get a
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: lawyer for him. Yo, D-Mac need this. Let me get
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: a lawyer for him. But then when I come and
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: tell you my son, it's something different. You know what
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? And that's where the respect, the loss of
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: respect for. Because I don't understand. And that's what I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: like about these young niggas nowadays. I'm going to tell
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: you the truth. They can say what they want to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: say about these young niggas, man, but A lot of
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: these young niggas that's in the business right now, first
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: thing they get in their crew is a house. Yo, 250,000.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: They make sure they got a house. No matter whether
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: he with me, whether he not with me, his family
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: got a place in this.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: They do be loyal to each other.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: They do be.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Loyal to each other.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: They do.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: To a fault. You know what I'm saying?
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: To a fault. That's a fact.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: And that's what I love about him. I see young
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: niggas that don't work security. I done worked security 12
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: years with Puff. I know niggas that work longer than
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that with other people and still finna for they own.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Not that you gotta give a nobody nothing. But damn,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: this nigga been with me 15 years. This nigga been
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: running 20 hours with me. This nigga everywhere with... Yo,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: let me surprise a nigga with a house.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because 20 grand is one bergam for Cassie.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: One bergam.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: That ain't nothing.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Puff gave me a Rolex. He gave me a Rolex.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: He bought 10 of us Rolexes, right? When 10 years hit,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: he bought 10 of us Rolexes. I told him, yo,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: what you give me a Rolex for if I ain't
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: got no money? You know what I'm saying? I don't
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: want to walk around with no $ 25 watch and I'm
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: living from check to check. First thing I did was
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: end up down here on the 19th floor somewhere with
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the green box, the paperwork, everything else that's in here.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: He asked me, he said, where you watch at? I
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: popped it. I got rid of it. What you mean
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you got rid of it? Because what you gave me
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: was for the newspapers, for the magazines, because it came
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: out the next day. Puff gives 10 of his homeboys,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, for being with him for
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: 10 years, watches. And all of us had the watches there.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: And we know he got a deal on that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Come on, you're going to get a deal.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It was good press, though. It was good press.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: It was a great price.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: And he flew the girl out to Paris to go
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: pick all 10 of them up. You know what I'm saying?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Because Shorty told me. She said, yeah, I flew out
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: there and got those for y'all. You know what I'm saying?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: She told me exactly what she paid for them and everything.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And I said, okay. But I love the fact that
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: he gave me a watch because I was able to
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: go ahead and pawn that shit for 20 stacks. You
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? But that just shows you how
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: in tune you are with your people. I'm not giving
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that nigga a watch. I'm going to give that nigga
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: a house. So that's one thing I know he ain't
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: got to worry about for the rest of his life.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: And that's where these young niggas is at. See, people
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: bypass all that when they be talking about him. You
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? But I be talking to him.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And when I be talking
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: to him, oh, nah, nah, nah. The first thing baby
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: did for me was buy me a house. You know
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Because you got to think. about it. $ 250, 000,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: even if you say I'm going to buy your house
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: and you pay me back for it every month, guess
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: what you're not doing? You're not buying two houses for
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the price of one because there ain't no interest on
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: what I'm paying you back. So even if you said
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: my house is $ 250, 000, I'm going to get it and
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: buy that for you and you got to give me
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: a stack every month. You got to give me two
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: stacks every month. I'm paying 250. If you got a
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: 30 year mortgage, nigga, you paying six something for that
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: same house to.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Cost you something.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So if you got it
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: like that, go ahead and put that shit underneath the
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: company until he pay it off. You know what I'm saying?
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: But let's not put no interest on it because I
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: paid for it out of pocket. We getting 100,000 a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: night all-star weekend. 100,000 a night NFL weekend. NFL Super Bowl.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: $ 100, 000 a night, NBA Super Bowl. $ 100, 000 a night, Memorial weekend.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: $ 100, 000 a night, Labor Day weekend. So that's $ 300, 000 in
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: one weekend. We talking Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Don't let it
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: be a Monday. You know what I'm saying? Because a
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: lot of times they do Monday too. So Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you got $ 100, 000. At this time, you was getting $ 100, 000
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: every night. That's $ 400, 000. Let me just take this one
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: weekend and tell them, yo, and God bless the day.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: That's what Biggie would do. You know what I'm saying?
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Biggie would do that same. Biggie would say, yo, I
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: got all of these parties right here. My crew was small.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I only got six people. I got D-Rock.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, you was around Biggie too?
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: No, I wasn't around Biggie. Oh, okay. But now I'm
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: listening to everything that we talking about because we got
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of late nights. You know what I'm saying?
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: So through these late nights, all of us is getting,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: we becoming that clique. I was locked up when Biggie
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: actually was, what's more, I was in the feds then.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: So now one party, Y'all got one party a year
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: where each of y'all, it's five of y'all. It's D-Rock,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: it's Lil C's, it's Kim, it's L's. It's like five
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of them. So each of y'all pick a night. Y'all
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: can't pick the weekends that I just told y'all. But
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Biggie getting 50,000 a party. You got one party where
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I just show up for an hour and I give
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you the money. This is the shit that's going on.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Damn, Biggie was doing that?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was doing that.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: That was real shit right there.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's real shit. But if
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: you so hot like that, I just named y'all 15
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: nights where a person get 100,000. That's 1.5 million. Not
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: including all the other parties and all the other monies
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and everything because I'm not counting your money. I'm just
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: counting that night right there. So it's nothing for you
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: to say, damn, we just got out of the jam
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: last night. This nigga just got me. In Paris, this
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: nigga just threw me in the car. And this nigga
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: stayed there. There's times I threw this nigga. Everybody know.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Niggas in Paris, for people that don't know, they ain't
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: nothing to play with. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Shit'll go down in Paris. Shit'll go down in London.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Of course. You know what I'm saying?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Easy.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Y'all know it. You know what I'm saying? And
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: there's been times where I threw this nigga in the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: car because he got girls with him. And he more
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: interested in the girls getting back to the hotel than you.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: So go ahead, my nigga. They don't want me.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: They don't want me.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: They want you. So go ahead. Go ahead in the car, man.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I'll see you at the hotel. But meanwhile, I'm sitting
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: there explaining to a goon what just happened. You know
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? And you got to explain it to
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: him with authority. You can't explain it to him humbly.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Puff just took your bitch, man.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Ain't nothing you can do. But I'm saying, my nigga,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: you want a problem with me? Nah, I ain't got
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: no problem with you. I like that. We ain't got
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: no problem. Matter of fact, being that he said he
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: already going to the hotel, that's me and you go
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: back in here for a drink. You know what I'm saying?
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: It's mind manipulation games that you got to play with
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: niggas when you out these people country. Yo, he already
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: in there. Matter of fact, man, come on. Let's go
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: ahead and have a drink.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: You don't want to get locked up in foreign country,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you. First of all, The language barrier is
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: the first mistake. So if that person know the language
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: and you don't, you lost already.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as soon as you walk in the police station,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: you the odd boy. I don't care who you are,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: what you are.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: You American.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: You think you all that. You think you better than us.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: And we not doing nothing for you.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: So not to cut you off, but you being on
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: a lawsuit, right?
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: And Cassie said that you seen, you know, you stopped puffing,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: beating up.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Did she give me something? No, no, no.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: What's the situation?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Because that's the first thing people ask me. They be like, yo,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I know she pissed you off. Nah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Nah, not even that. I wasn't even going to ask that.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: I was going to ask, like, what's going through your
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: mind when that's going on?
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: And where did it happen at?
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: What's going on in my mind, to be real with you,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: what was going through my mind was them people getting
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: ready to knock on my door. That's what was on
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: my mind. There's so much shit going on. that I'm
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: not even really thinking about you, old boy. I'm thinking
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: about if them people come knock on my door. You
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Even though I ain't been with you,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: they taking the time all the way back to 1999.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I got with you 2003.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: So now I'm falling in. This girl got my name
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: in a lawsuit. Then I'm watching people on trial. And
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: they say, oh, Barnes used to bring me the money. Oh,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm watching his money manager say, yo, after the party,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Barnes will bring it to me. Oh, I'm watching some
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: of his assistants get on there. Oh, I told Barnes.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, there ain't no way these niggas not going
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: to come knock on my door. Everybody to get up
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: here talking about Barnes, Barnes, Barnes, Barnes, Barnes. Now, what
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: crossed my mind then was, Am I loyal to a
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: fort now? You know what I'm saying? Or when these
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: people come hollering at me, he shitting on me, do
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I holler back at him? And my inner self beat
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: came back with, yo nigga, you ain't got nothing to
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: talk to them people about. Not being there because it
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: was puff, because I would've had that same answer and
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: that same feeling for somebody who ain't have nothing. I've
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: been there and done that.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: So what was going through your head?
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: What happened when you was there with the Cassie situation
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: and Puff?
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: What exactly happened? Where was that?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Well, it's been a couple of incidents, but the instance
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: she brought up was on Sunset when he was talking
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: to Johnny Wright. Johnny Wright was a manager for a
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: lot of big pop rock people, but he was also
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: a manager for Danny D. King. So him and Puff
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: had a somewhat relationship, but Because one is a label,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: one is a manager. Of course, they don't get along.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: So when Puff seen Cassie talking to him, he just
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: went into a rage. Because Puff was not only a man,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: he was a manager and everything else. All accounts were
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: shut down. Any money that she got went straight to
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: his account. You know what I'm saying? So he's wondering,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: what's she talking to him about? But he took off,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: and all I seen him was do a flying kick,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: you know? And he kicked her in the back. She
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: went on the floor. Damn. And he was on the
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: floor with her. And I was like, yo. And I'm
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: running up the block. You know what I'm saying?
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Because- Now, this is on Sunset Boulevard.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Now, this is right on Sunset.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Raw Daylight.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Nah, it's nighttime.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Nighttime.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: But everybody got a driver out there. Because it's a
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: war show.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: So people see when he- People see.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: People see everything. So that's what made me run over there.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: And I grabbed him. I said, yo, what the fuck
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you doing, yo? And his driver opened up the door
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: and I threw him in there. And then she had
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: went underneath the car. So I went over there and
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: grabbed her.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Now- She went under the car?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: She went underneath the truck.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Damn, damn.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: So she was so scared that she went underneath. You
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? So I said, Cassie, yo, come out,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: come out, come out. So I put Cassie in the back.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: He got in the front. So now while we driving
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: back to the hotel, something came from the back seat
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: and it was Cassie. And she hit that nigga so
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: hard in his motherfucking face. Like she had a ring,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: a diamond ring that was so big. And all I
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: seen was her. So I'm driving, right? Now I'm driving
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: because the shit happened so fast. I told the driver
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: to stay back there with her. But now when he
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: get back there with her, he scared to touch her.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Because he ain't us. So
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: he like, ah, ah, ah, ah. And she swings on
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: him from the front. So now I got the window open.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to contain at the same time. People pulling up, oh,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: that's Diddy, that's Cassie. Boom, boom. So I'm trying to
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: close the window at the same time. So we get
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: back to the crib. When we get back to the crib,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: they go in the room. And I tell people all
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the time, like when you go through social media, social
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: media going to make you the villain. So I tell
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: people all the time, you can't be responsible for something
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that you don't see. So what he going to do
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: then is he going to go in the room. So
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: when a person come out of the room, however they look,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: ain't nothing you can do about it. Because the magic
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: is that they still there. And nobody had a gun
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: to your head. Nobody made you stay there. Not only that,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you get up out of here and you
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: running back and telling somebody.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I came to see him.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: So was you frustrated because you started feeling like, damn,
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: this nigga can't give me a light 20 grand and
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: this nigga got me as the therapist and the bodyguard.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Nah, because the therapist shit was ahead of time. The money,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: that money, and I'm not going to lie. Puff gave
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: me $ 30, 000, right?
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: For your son?
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: He gave me $ 30, 000 for my son, right?
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: In 2011.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: My son's down there. Like, okay, all of us had cases.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: All of us got New York cases. So we know
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: what it costs in New York. So imagine what it costs.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: As a motherfucker in Africa.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? From 2011, the case is
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: going on. They still going to court every year, every month,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: every two months, every three months. So I'm giving a nigga,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I'm giving a nigga, I'm giving a nigga. You gave
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: me 30 at the end. I tell you, yo, it's
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: trial time now. 2024 was trial time. Yo, I need
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: that 20,000. This is the end of it.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: And he knows exactly what the case is for and everything.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: And he knew what the case was about.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. He knew what the case was because he posted.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: it one time. After I hit him so many times,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I called him and I said, yo, my nigga. He said,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: what's up? I said, yo, that's some fucked up shit.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: He said, what you mean? I said, yo, man, my
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: son locked up, man. I been hitting you. I can't
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: get in touch with you, this, that. I asked you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: just to post something to bring awareness. Yo, you right, Barnes.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: You right. You right.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: You'll call such and such and such and such and
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: tell him I said the post is. So I called
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: him and the post did some magic because there was
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of people in Africa that was watching and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: it put them on to the case. But now when
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: he hit me, he said, yo, I got these three
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: people for you right here. Hit them. Anything you need
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: with your son, deal with them. So now that's when
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: he gave me the 20,000 for my son, right? Now,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: when I hit them about Because they're not giving it
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: to me. They're sending it directly to the lawyer. I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: don't want nothing to do with the money. So I'm
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: sending y'all the wire number, the international number, and it's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: coming straight from the office to y'all so that y'all
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: don't think no funny business going on. So now I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: tell him, I say, yo, we're going to trial. It's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: time to get this thing together. So he gives me
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: all these people and say, yo, we're going to do this.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I call the people. They say, oh, we sent $ 20, 000.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: We don't have the okay to send nothing else. I said,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Puff just told me that he told y'all to send
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: what's ever needed. So, cause the case, dah, dah, dah, dah.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Not gonna work, my son blows trial. You know what
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? He gets 29 years. Right?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: Now he gets- So it was more money needed for
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: the trial?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Because you see what Puff got right now? And I'm
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: not on his level with that, but you see what
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: he got? He got a person to deal with every
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: facet of the case. He got a person that's good
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: with the rape shit. A person that's good with this.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: So down there, you need a person, an advocate. That's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: what they call them. It's only one lawyer, but you
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: need the advocates that specialize in different stuff. Okay. He
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: got international law from being from the United States. This
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: person specializes in that. Okay, he got a murder conviction.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: This person specializes in that. Okay, he got weapons and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: all that shit, international weapons stuff. They still ain't told
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: me how my son got a gun. They don't have
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: no gun. They don't have no weapon. They don't have
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: no witnesses. They don't have no nothing. This was an
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: open and shut case if I had a team.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm putting puff up on the president, man. Me
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: and him is talking and all this, but all this
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: is through him. You know what I'm saying? They listening
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: to you. They not listening to me. Even though I'm
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: the father and I'm talking to you, they know you
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: got the money. So that's who they listening to. When
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: you call, they going to answer and all that.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: So when the money stopped coming in, they stopped responding
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: What part of Africa was it?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Namibia. Okay.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: What's that in there?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: All the way down to South Africa. All the way
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: at the bottom. See, and when I do my homework,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: because we all got people from Nigeria, from Lagos and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: all that, but not from Namibia. Namibia is a country
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: that sold out to the Germans back in the 18 something.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: So they respect Asian and European people more than they
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: respect Americans. Even when you go down there, like, you know,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: they done brought out all the stores and did this
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: and brought all that. So that's the people that's in
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: with them is the people that's in. Puff is universal.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, his people was telling me
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: that this is what his people was telling me. PR
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: team and everything. They said, ah, Barnes, Puff can't really
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: get involved in this. I said, what you mean? Ah,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: your son is locked up down there for murder. He's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: trying to open up some businesses in Africa. So we
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: advised him not to speak on it. So now my
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: beef is bigger now because where's the loyalty? How you
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: going to let these people tell you About your man, nigga, like,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: this my son. She comes out and tells me straight up.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: She said, yo, Puff may not want to tell you,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to tell you. She said, yo, we've
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: advised him not to speak on the situation. Because when
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: he put the post up, he had so much backlash. Oh,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: I heard you was trying to open up some businesses
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: down here. Mighty funny that you're trying to open up something,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: but these Americans came down here and killed one of
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: our people. Now, They wouldn't have a problem with it
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: if it was a black dude. But my son is
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: convicted for killing a white guy, right? So it was
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a guy from Columbia University, which is here. You know
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? He was from Namibia, a white South African.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: So his family is into diamonds. So he tells my son, co-defendant,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: when I go back home, I'm going to give y'all
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: some diamonds, but y'all got to bring them back. So
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: my son is on Rikers Island at this particular time.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: So he meets the dude, right? My son, knock on wood,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I ain't talking about this, but he blood. You know
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? So he on Rikers Island. The dude
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: gets locked up from LA. So he can't use the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: phone enough when he get to the island because he
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: don't know nobody. So my son say, yo, I got you.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: So from my son taking care of him and everything,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: he put my son up on this. He said, yo,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: when I get out of here, I'm heading down to XYZ.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I go see my son. I talk to him. I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: tell his mother, yo, he not ready to come out yet.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I said, what you mean? I said, yo, I was
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: in Ibiza. I got a phone call from the police
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: saying he got locked up with a gun. I said,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I was in Paris. I got a phone call from
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: the police saying he got locked up with a second gun.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I said, he not ready to come home. So that's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: what he was on the island. I said, evidently he
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: beefing with somebody. I'm not in New York because I'm
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: running around with Puff. I said, until I get a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: couple of days off where I can come back to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Harlem and find out who he beefing with and let
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: niggas know that's my son. He got to chill. Let
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: him stay on the island. But his mother don't listen
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: to him. You know, that's her baby. You know what
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? I'm getting my baby out of there. So
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: she goes and get him out of jail. So now
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: I comes back for Christmas. I see him. Take him
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: some money. Take him some Sean John boxes and all
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: that shit. He said, Dad, I'm going to Africa next week.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: First of all, you ain't even got your passport. So
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not really paying him no attention. He wanted them
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: little niggas like, okay, you just talking, you talking. You
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? You just talking.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: I ain't think you going to Africa.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I said, what you going to Africa for? So at
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: this time, MC Lyte had that joint. I need a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: rough neck. I gotta have a rough neck. So he
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: had all them little niggas from Harlem with tattoos. trying
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: to be a model. You know what I'm saying? This
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: was when, what's the homie's name? What's all them little niggas?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: What's the ball-headed dude, Tyson?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: This was all of them.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Tyson, Doc, and all of them. They was all doing
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: their thing. So these little niggas think, oh yeah, I'm
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: going to be a roughneck, blah, blah, blah. So he said,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Africa. He said, I'm going
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: to take some pictures and stuff. He said, because I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: wanted a different concept from what everybody else bringing them.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: My son's 6'4. You know what I'm saying? Curly-haired dude.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Okay, cool. You know, went
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: to Mary Bertram and all that other stuff. You know
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: who his man was? His man is Ja. You know Ja?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: From Brooklyn? They used to hold Akon down.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I think I know who you're talking about.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Ja used to be with Nails all the time.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Ball-headed.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: He knocked Shill down.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, I know who Ja is.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: So that's my... I don't know how my son and
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Ja get tight like that. Right. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Ja way older than him.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? But... He talking and telling me, okay,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. Yo, when I tell you
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: this shit goes through one ear and out the other,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not thinking. So when his baby mother called me
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: and said, yo, Kev locked up. First thing I said
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: to him was, yo, he in Africa. What you mean
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: he locked up? She said, that's where he's locked up for.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I said, for what? She said, murder. So I immediately go,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: I'm in Paris. So I'm halfway there. So Puff is like, yo,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you don't have to go back. He said, yo, man,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: call Uncle Paulie and tell him to meet me at
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: the airport tomorrow. Because we leaving the next morning anyway.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: He said, you go ahead to Paris. So yeah, to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: answer your question, he definitely knew what it was. So
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I shot to Paris. Got a lawyer and everything. I
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: go down there with a little 15,000. They take that
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: from me as soon as I get there. Because I'm green.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Everything that's going on now. All I know is my
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: boy is locked up. We need a lawyer. This is
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: who he told me to get. Boom, boom. He ended
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: up robbing me. You know what I'm saying? He ain't
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: doing nothing for my son for this money. You know
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? But as time goes on, my son
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: know everybody in the jail. He got the whole jail
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: blooding when I go down there. I'm like, yo.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: In Africa?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in Africa. When I tell you, yo, niggas was
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: telling me, I'm watching videos. I'm like, damn, this Africa
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: jail look rough. I'm like, what the fuck? So I'm
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: worried about him. But when I get down there, he's like, nah, pop,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I'm all right. He's taller than me, 6'4. So I'm
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: getting ready to leave. He said, yo, lift your head up, Pop.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I'm all right, yo. This is what, he said, I'm
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: all right, Pop. So when I go back there, now
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to get hits. I'm starting to get DMs
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: and everything from people that's out there. And one lady
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: is like, yo, your son is such a sweetheart. I'm like,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: what you mean? She said, yo, the police tried to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: tell me I couldn't bring my phone in because I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: didn't give him no phone number. Yo, your son jumped
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: up off the bench. I said, yo, he beaving with
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: the police? She said, yeah, police let me in after
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: he said this, that, and other. So now when I'm
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: going down there, I'm like, okay. This nigga know how
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: to handle himself.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: He got judges because they got him in a special part.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: So he got judges and lawyers and everything that got
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: locked up for... for shit that they done did down there.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, they still lawyers, they
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: still judges. They still got the knowledge. So now they
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: working on the case with him. So my son said, damn,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: that everything I'm arguing in court is the stuff I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: did myself. This lawyer ain't doing nothing for me. So
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: now when we blow his trial, he ends up getting
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: 29 years, right? But this is the kicker. The judge
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: tells him, I'm not giving you them 14 years that
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: you got in already. Damn. So now he got to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: start the 29 over from 2025. That's crazy. So how
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: you going to do that? So now that's what I'm
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: in court fighting for now because at the end of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: the day, I told my son, all right, you got 29.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I said, oh, for 29, you got to do 25.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: So the embassy tells me, they say, yo, we can
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: transfer him once he get through all his appeals and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: he's set with whatever time he going to get, we
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: could do a swap. So in the feds, they'll do
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: a swap where they take somebody from that country that's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: locked up in the United States and they swap them out.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: And then let my son go to the feds over here.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, this is what
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: we came to. I say, 29 for 29, you get
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: 59 days a year. I said, all right, that's going
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: to break down to 25. I said, you got 14
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: in right now. All right, at the end of the day,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: you got 10 left. That's where we at with it.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: But then the judge says, yo, we're not counting them
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: over 14 years. So right now, the first thing I'm
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: fighting is the fact that you can't say that he
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't in your jail cell for 14 years. and count
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: no time. Then we could fight the other stuff, but
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: let's get you amount of time first. You know what
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? And that's what I needed from Diddy. That's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: what I needed the money for. I needed the money
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: to make sure this nigga got the right amount of
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: time that he was supposed to get. Even though he
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: wasn't even... Yo, the embassy was sat right next to me.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: They had his plane ticket. They had everything. They said, yo,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: they don't have no evidence on this case. They said,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: this is what we need you to do. We need
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: you to get your son right after this verdict, take
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: him to your hotel. Give us four hours and we're
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: going to expedite the passport and we'll be ready to go.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: So even when they came back with guilty and gave
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: him all that time, even the embassy was looking at me.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: But the embassy is quote unquote, which we know is bullshit.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: They told me we don't have nothing to do with
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: the criminality of the case. We just got to make
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: sure that he's treated and given everything that he's supposed
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: to be given as a United States citizen in jail
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: down there. But we all know with certain people get
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: locked up in certain phone calls that could be made.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: And shit going to happen. We done seen Trump do
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: it and all that type of shit.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman I got locked up in the airport in Turkey.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Made that call. 50.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Drinking tea in the back of the precinct. So I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: know how you feeling. That call from Puff, that's all
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: you really needed. I know he couldn't do it. Maybe
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: he gave you the bread and he just felt like, yo,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: I gave him enough. People in his head, because you
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: know how it is in the industry. People get in
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: his head, yo, Barnes, he's just your security, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: Why are you doing this? Why are you posting this
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: for his son?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Blah, blah, blah.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: And honestly, he could have made one phone call and
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: that could have changed the whole situation.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: You see, when people say stuff like that, I listen
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: to it because people hit me all the time. Yo, B,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: you had a nine to five. You was just a
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: security guard. Nah, nah, nah.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Not the shit that you know you've been through with it. Right.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: You can't sit there.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: I was like, nigga, man, we've been through some real shit, man.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Fuck all that shit.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: This ain't no regular nine to five.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: This ain't no nine to five. First of all, we
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: lived in the same house, so this was 24-7. Because
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: if you get up at three in the morning and
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: you want to go somewhere, you're going to hit that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: PA system, your boss. You'll get the car ready. You
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Get the car ready.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Yo, where we going?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to go. Whether it's just to see
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: your girl, whether it's just to see anybody, anything.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Nigga, I told you, get up.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Let's go. So it ain't a nine to five. You
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Second of all, we talking about when, okay,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say for instance, them fans that used
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: to work with us, the police that used to work
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: with us, they was there for a certain amount of time.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: And then they knew they was going home. I ain't
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: get to go home. I wasn't there for a certain
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: amount of time.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman And them niggas probably getting paid more than you.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Yeah, because they was legally armed and they
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: getting paid, I think at that time it was 150
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: an hour. You know what I'm saying? But we out
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: 15 hours. So guess what? After 10 hours, pups start
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: counting that money. Yo, tell them niggas they could go home.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Not that the danger lessened, because it's getting late at night.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: It's just getting too expensive.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: It's just getting too expensive. Yo, tell them niggas they
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: could go home. You going to be here, right? All right, nigga,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: tell them niggas to go home. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: So now, I'm also moving with people that I can't
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: let know what I'm really doing. Because I don't give
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: a fuck if you're working with me or not. If
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: you the fed or you the police, you're not going
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: to never know if I'm strapped or not. You know
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? I'm never going to tell you. You
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Unless something really, really happened. Because
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I know at the end of the day, this is
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: just your, what they call a moonlight. This is your
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: side hustle. You're not giving, and I used to have
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: them talks with them all the time. Yo, my nigga,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: you know them niggas ain't going to pull no hammer.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: It was like a situation. So that's why, like, no
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: matter what situation Puff got in, yeah, them fans is good.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: They great. But they don't know who you got a
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: situation with. I know everybody that you got a situation with.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: And that's what makes us different. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: So when people say, yo, you was just saying, nah,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I ain't security when I'm spending Christmas with your family.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: I'm spending Thanksgiving with your family. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: I'm doing shit. We doing shit. I'm making sure you
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: get in the car. Nah, it ain't a nine to five.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: And then you're not there for the conversations. See, that's
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: the thing that get to me. It's not about the job.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: It's about the conversations. When you look in my eye
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: and I look in your eye and you tell me, yo,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: if you ever need me, my nigga, I'm here, B.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: But that's when we get into a situation and we
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: make it home safe. Then that conversation that night is
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: different than that other conversation. Because that conversation that night is... Damn,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: my nigga, that shit was crazy, right? Yeah, nigga. Yeah,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: we made it back, though.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: You damn near saved my life, my nigga.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: My nigga, come on. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: You ever need me, my nigga.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: Whatever you ever need from me, my nigga's there, my nigga.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: And then you hold that shit in your heart. And
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: then when the time come around, you really need something,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: and the nigga say, I ain't even got that right now, playboy.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Not when you talk about, yo, you giving $ 1, 000 haircuts
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: and you get Young Miami and then talk about.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: She got $ 500, 000. Nigga have you with five jobs. Like,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: nigga's the driver. the therapist, the bodyguard, the gunman, the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: hold the bag man, the assistant, to take the cars,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: get the cars oiled.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: Look, look.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you on top of that,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: and it's in the book. Not only am I got,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: and this is one thing that I heard from my
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: man Big Vic and all of them that worked with
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: 50 on the tour and all that, right? I bought
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: my house and everything. I ain't got no complaints. You
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Nigga said, yo, nigga, I might
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: not be where I want me no more, but I
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: ain't got no complaints. Nigga, I bought my house and
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: everything off a tour. Look at that. Right? Now, Puff
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: is the type of person, because I don't talk about
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: nothing that ain't happened. I get a call to the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: office one day, yo, what the fuck is going on?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: All right, we signed to, not Universal, we signed to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Atlantic Records, right? Bad Boy is underneath Atlantic. So all
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: the bills got to go to Lyon. All the bills
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: from Bad Boy go to Leo. So they look at it.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: What the fuck is this security nigga putting in 130
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: hours for on the invoice? Yo, the driver got 130
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: hours on here. Nigga, we worked 130 hours, right? So
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: guess what? Leo up there, oh, this nigga got his bills, this, this, that,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: and the other. So now they call Puff. All I
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: hear in the car is, yo, I know them motherfuckers
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: ain't do no shit like that, right? So I'm looking back.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: It's your boss, too? Nigga, why wouldn't I put in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: an invoice? If we leave your call time at 7
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: in the morning, we don't get back in the house
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: at 3 in the morning. Nigga, that's every hour that
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: I work. So I'm going to put that down. This
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: nigga get mad at you. Yo, I don't know what
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: you're going to do, playboy. But then they'll come behind
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: you and say, yo, bitch. Yo, if you need something, man,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: just let me know if you need something. I got you.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? But I can't pay. You know,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: them niggas in Atlanta.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: You said you put in 130 hours.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: My nigga, 130 hours. Don't let an album be coming
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: out where niggas sleep in that motherfucking studio and all
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: that shit. This nigga Puff came out the studio one
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: time in LA, nigga. We in the studio. I'm outside
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: in the truck, sitting in the truck. I went to sleep.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: It's just me and him. It's 7 o'clock in the
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: morning right now. Nigga, I'm not on the same shit
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: you on. You know what I'm saying? So I done
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: fell asleep. This nigga done reached through the window, took
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: the key out the ignition, right? Goes back in the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: studio and then run out the studio. Yo, it's time.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: So I jump up. What's your reaction? Your first reaction
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: is to turn the key. Ain't no motherfucking key in
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: the junk. This nigga rolling. He on the floor laughing. Yo, nigga,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: you got me in the middle of Bloods. Got me
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: in the middle of Crips. You sleep in the truck.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: He said, but I know you tired, my nigga. Don't worry, buddy.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: He said, come on, let's go home. But this is
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: the type of shit that I say a nigga do. Nigga,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: you ain't the only nigga in a situation. If they come, nigga,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: they gonna hit me up first to get inside the door.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So yeah, I'm gonna reach
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: under the seat, but nigga, that's too late. How many
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: niggas we know that then got clapped and when they
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: found him, the nigga had his joint on his waist?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's real talk.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: That's why I try to tell.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: People, this ain't no security where you come in at
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: 9 and you leave at 5 and you come in
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: at 10. Every morning, man, I pray to God every
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: morning when I used to leave the house, I say, yo,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: bring him home safe before I get home safe. You
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Because in my mind, that was
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: my principle. That was my responsibility. So nigga, if I
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: don't make it home, I'm cool. You made it home.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: But guess what the deal was? The deal was that
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: if you don't make it, nigga, I got your family.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: This is the conversation. So now that I didn't die,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: my son is my family and I need you. And
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: if you ain't doing this while I'm alive. What you
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: going to do if I die, nigga? And that's the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: thought that started coming through my mind. You know what
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Damn. So when people say, yo, why don't
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: you do this? Why don't you do that? And my
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: niggas is telling me, saying, yo, my nigga, you know
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: every crib that nigga got. Why you just don't roll
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: up there? You know what I'm saying? And I'm telling you,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: this ain't 1980. This is 2002. Nigga, you can't be
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: rolling up on nigga. Nigga will call the police on you. Right.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: And the first thing they're going to say is, yo,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a civilian. Nigga, I'm Puff Daddy. Nigga, that nigga
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: came up here with all type of joints trying to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: threaten me. But ain't nobody going to look at him
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: funny for saying something about me. But if I say
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: something about him, everybody.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Will give me excuse. Because he got more bread.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: People are just loyal to the money, man. Motherfucker can
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: do whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like I said,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: you had 10 jobs. You're the therapist. You're breaking up
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: fights with Cassie. You're the driver. You're driving four or five.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: In the morning. You're the gunman. You're security. You're the assistant.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: You're carrying bags. You the guy making calls for them. Yo, Barnes, Barnes,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: PA system. Four or five in the morning. 3 a.m.,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: 7 in the morning. Nigga giving you the same pay.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: And then when you say, yo, I worked 139 hours,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: they looking at you like you crazy.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying? But go buy a bitch a
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Berkham or buy a bitch a Rollia. That's what I
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: be doing. But you can't take it.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: And it's not pocket watching. It's not pocket watching.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: It's what's yours.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: It's just like, yo, bro, I've been loyal to you.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: I put my life on the line and everything.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? You had 10 jobs. You
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: was a man therapist, his friend, his bodyguard, his family.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: He made stupid decisions. You stopped him from casting. I
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: didn't hear you say not one thing fashionably. You said
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: all good things. You tried to help.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Christmas. I've seen this. I've seen this. People be loyal
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: and get the bad end of the stick. That's what
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: it sound like.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Pause.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: Right? That's a pause. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: So for me, it's the real report. I'm glad you
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: came on the show to tell your truth. Because the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: book is about your life. excuse me, it's not all
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: about just Diddy. It's just the situations you went through. Yeah,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: he looked out for you here and there, but he
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: could have did more.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And that's what the book
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: is about. The book is not for... The book is
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: a lesson. If you read the book and you go
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: through the book, and I call it... I call it
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: the bonds, right? The word of the bonds contract, right?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: The word is bond contract. So after each chapter... I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: show my loyalty. I show a situation, right? And when
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I be talking, like I got a joint I'm talking
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: in next week with the chief of police in Columbia,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: South Carolina with the kids with gun violence, right? Because
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: when I was talking to him, he thought the way
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: that I talked and everything I was going through with Puff,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: he didn't know I ever went to jail. So even
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: when I told him what I went to jail for,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: he said, what you went to jail for? I went
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: to jail for manslaughter. Oh, we need you, we need you.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: So now it opened them up to say, okay, Not.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: Only do we have this, he been through it. He
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: know what the other side is and now he talking
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: positive on this side. So this is perfect for what
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: we trying to do.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: And that's why when people say, why you do a book?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Why you do a book? I did a book because
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: some shit get thrown at you and you can bob
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: and weave it. You know what I'm saying? Like I
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: got five daughters. So shit done been, I done, you
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? I done went through it with
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: my daughters.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: With guys and everything else like that. Cassie had hit
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: me in the spot. You know what I'm saying? So
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: when she ain't listen, I said, okay, I'm a duck that,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a duck that, I'm a duck that. But then
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: when she put me in the lawsuit and it came
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: back to me, I said, Sometimes God bring you something
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: over and over and over again until you speak on it.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: So I even went to school. I took the domestic
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: violence certification. I became an advocate in that shit. We
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: all took the alternative to violence shit. I just took
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: another one from jail and then I took it and
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: moved it up and all that. And I say, oh, God,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: keep coming to me about this. Not only that, when
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I caught the body, It was the only one person
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: I could talk to. And I tell people that all
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: the time. And that was God.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? God is good.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: God is good. God is good. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: How many bodies you got, my nigga?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: You had me up here like the nigga Haas. I
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: done killed more niggas than you.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: Get out of here.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: I can talk about it because I did my time.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I tell niggas all the time. I say, yo, that
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: shit is just... Back then... it was just as many
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: bodies going on back then as it is now.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: You know what's crazy?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: It was way more. It was way more. The murder
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: rate was up back then. You talking about at least
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: a year, nigga, it was 1,300, 1,200 people getting killed
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: for real on these streets. Now it'd be probably about,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: not saying like it's a bad thing, it's a good thing,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: but now.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: It's only about 300, 400, 500.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: It's not as crazy as it used to be, but
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: it get highlighted more because of social media. So you
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: see things and it looks so crazy, you like, oh man,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: they well enough, they're acting crazy.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: No, but it used to really be crazy.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of cameras now,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: things too.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: It's cameras now, and the difference is, the biggest difference
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: is there was a lot of bodies back then, but
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: they was of age. They was dudes who was in
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: the street doing what they had to do. Now you
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of kids killing each other.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: Doing certain things. Dudes was young back then too though.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: Dudes was young, dudes was young. But we was getting money.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: The fact is they not even thinking about no money.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: They not even thinking about no money. They just want
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: to bang who repping this gang, repping this gang, doing
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: it for social media purposes, weird, mixed up with it.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: It do be kind of weird nowadays. I know what
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: you mean.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: With that shit, man.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: It's not about no money. It's not about no money, man.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: So that be the weird part. That's the weird part
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: right there.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Because I got a bunch of friends that got killed.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I got a friend that got killed for gazelles. We
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: got friends that got killed for Jordans. You know what
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: Jackets, all type of crazy shit back then, boy.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: The V-Bomber.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: Real talk.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: People with jackets, starters.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: You've seen it all, man.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Back then, man.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: But it's like you said. It wasn't no media and
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: all that. And it was niggas that was getting money.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Because 9 out of 10, if you had that type
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: of shit, you was out there. You was hustling.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: You was hustling. You was getting some money. You was
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: getting some money.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Niggas was dying on the stoop and all that shit.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: But nowadays, it's just more crazy. And when I be
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: talking to the kids and I show them the book,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: Because they say, yo, man, I thought this was just
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: all about Diddy. Nah, this is about whole life. This
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: is about Rikers Island. This is about the feds. This
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: is about how you're going to feel.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: It's how to move in life a little bit, period.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: With your loyalty.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: Definitely. With your loyalty.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Because a lot of us think, well, a lot of
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: them kids, when you really listen to them, they'll do
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: anything for a nigga who got money. You know what
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? And that's not loyalty. That's stupidity. Definitely. You
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? It's the difference between loyalty and stupidity.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Loyalty is with somebody that you got a history with
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: and somebody you got love for. Stupidity is just somebody
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: who got some money that you might have just knew
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: for six months.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: But you're trying to prove yourself. He can make you
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: do anything. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: And And that's where me and Puff was going. Like
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: to answer your question, that's where we was going. We
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: was starting to argue all the time. Like who the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: fuck argues with the boss? But I'm actually arguing with
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: you because I'm at the point where a lot of
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: this shit you're doing is stupid. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: You're doing stupid shit. We did this shit when we
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: was in the 30s, all the way to the 40s.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Now that your kids done became an age, you want
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: to relive it and go back. I don't want to
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: get up three in the morning right now, four in
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: the morning no more. I thought that shit was over.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, them niggas were young niggas.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But now you're 45
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: and you're doing it all over again because Justin didn't
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: reach age. Because Kristen didn't reach age. You know what
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? And that goes back. When I was there,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: niggas used to tell me, yo, my nigga, ever since
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: you left, this shit is crazy. I just be like,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: what you mean? He said, we in the house right now.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: What you doing in the house? We in there with
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: a bunch of bitches. This, that, and the other. And
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: they're Christian friends. They're Justin friends. So, of course, ain't
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: nobody on that door saying, yo, let me see. Man,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: when we used to have them parties in Miami, I'll
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: be right on that gate. If something on there, yo,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: let me see your ID. Ain't nobody out there, nobody
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: going in. Puff is high out his mind, my nigga.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: So he's not responsible for who going in his house.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: That's your job to be responsible about who going in
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: his house. But it came to a point where now
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: everybody is partying. Because you so high, you not thinking about, damn,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: that's my security in here talking to Shorty. Who the
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: fuck is on the gate outside? You know what I'm saying?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: I ain't give a fuck about that. I was one
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: of them niggas that, yo, at the beginning of the party,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to grab my thing and I'm going to
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: stash her up in the room. Ain't no reason for
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: you to be out here with all these niggas.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: For sure, for sure.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Smart guy.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Whatever you want to drink, I'm going to give you.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: I got a pot full of smoke up there. You
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: can just go up there and chill and wait until
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: the party is over. One, I ain't want none of
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: these niggas to take the shorty I picked. You know
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: You gotta get.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: That right from the beginning. The doors is open for
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: you before all of.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: These- Get away from the star power.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: Get away from the star power. So you gotta.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Catch somebody who just happy to be in the house.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: And put her up in your room and start, go
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: check on her every couple of hours. You know what
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: I mean? This is the food they got downstairs. You
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? No, but I thought, yo, we're
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: going to go to the pool and all that, but
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: we just waiting on all these niggas to leave. Then
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: we're going to get in the pool by ourselves. You
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? They're like, okay, okay. I ain't
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: got to go home. No, you ain't got to go home.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: But when I left, it ain't nobody there because everybody
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: want to party. So that's how you get into... The
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: young girls, the this, the that, and the other. I
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: think the young girl thing, that would have been my
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: limit right there. The only thing that I can honestly
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: say is I've never seen a nigga with a young girl.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: And I always stand up when they say that. I
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: don't care how mad I am and all that. I'm
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: not going to put something on you. that I've never seen.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: I've never seen you with a girl underage.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: No, but I understand bro. You got five daughters.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I have one daughter. Love you, Minaya. I have one daughter.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: I got one too. Love you, Minaya.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: You have five.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: So if you see Cassie putting his hands on any man,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: you see, you my homie. You see me put my
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: hands on a woman, you going to stop me too.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Come on, man.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: I knew you for years. You understand what I'm saying?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: So it's like when I read the book, And I'm
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: definitely going to read the book.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't read it yet.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: But me having the book, Loyalty and Lies, the best
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: thing about it, it's not a book just to bash
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: somebody in the industry. It's lessons of your life, of
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: you going through bids and being on Rikers and going
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: to jail, in prison, going up top.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: I met you on Rikers. I know you was praying
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: that night, too.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't forget that. When you met you on the alley,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: was you locked up for a body?
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: All right, let's make it short. Let's make it short.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: But we don't want to talk about nothing. He done
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: talked about seven bodies on here, nigga.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Him, his son, his.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: Man that he took the charge for caught the body.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: His son caught the body, allegedly.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Nigga, that's what he been talking about.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: His man who put him on with Puff caught the body. Nigga,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: that's what he been talking about.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Nigga, that's my man. You got it. You got that one.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: But the whole thing is.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: No, but the whole thing... No, no, no.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: It's on the road today. What I'm saying is, look...
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: The whole thing is like, he's not glorifying none of it.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: He's just telling you like, his man was locked up
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: for a body and he took a charge.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? He took the charge because
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: his man was locked up already and his man is
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: calling him.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: Because he really caught the.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: Body, nigga.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: I know he did. But look, he's not glorifying it.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: He's just telling you a loyalty. Because if you catch
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: a body and you locked up and you calling me, yo,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: when you going to take the charge?
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: When you going to take the charge? And my pops
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: is in my ear and he's like, You know, you
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: don't have to do this in the streets. I would
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: have been like, dad, you know, you're right. It's the streets, nigga.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: And my pops said, I'm going to get you up
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: It's the streets.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't just say, don't do it. He said, nigga,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to.
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  Speaker 3: Get you up out of here. Get you up out
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  Speaker 3: of here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going to move you.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to get you up out of here. I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to say, yeah, south of the family. So was
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  Speaker 5: your pops on some of them street shit, too?
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  Speaker 1: Nah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, copy, copy. He just understood it.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, he understood it. And he did than that. But
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  Speaker 1: he was a straight 95.
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  Speaker 3: All right, got you. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But he knew the street. We still lived in Harlem.
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  Speaker 1: So he had to navigate a certain way.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know if it really ran in the family.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Your cops caught the body, you caught the body, all
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: right cop, you suck that up.
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  Speaker 4: Rob Markman So loyalty and lies, y'all make sure y'all
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: get the book, make some noise for my man Roger Bonds.
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  Speaker 3: Rob Markman Definitely, man.
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  Speaker 4: Rob Markman And yo, what's some advice you would give
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: the youth street-wise and industry-wise being around one of the
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: biggest names, Puff Daddy, and you being in and out
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: of prison and you survived, you know what I mean?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, I get that question
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  Speaker 1: a lot, and I tell them young boys all the time,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, you got to keep your vision. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? One of the guys that really
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: stand out to me is A Boogie.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to A Boogie. That's our guy. We had
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: him on here. Shout out to A Boogie, man.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: He stand out to me, even though he's younger than me.
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  Speaker 1: I know some of the people that he's with, some
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: of the people that's bringing him up.
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  Speaker 3: And they're real loyal to.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Each other, man.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: And they're real loyal to each other. Yeah, Highbridge getting
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of money.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: They cool as Lorde. They cool as Lorde. You right
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: And they've been like that from day one. Yes, that's
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: a fact. So when people ask me, I go back
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: to that. And I say that's one example of money
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: not changing a relationship. You know what I'm saying? So
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: I tell these young brothers, I say, yo, just because
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: he got money don't mean that he's the smartest one.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? People feel like, oh, because
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: he's successful, he got money, I should listen to him. Nah.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: If that nigga running to the fucking wall, you going
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: to run into the wall just because he ran the wall,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: he got a million dollars in the bank? No. So
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: you got to make your decisions. Yeah, I'm going to
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: follow you on some things. But then on some things,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be my own person. If that don't
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: feel right, it ain't right. Point being, not only that,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: when you look at, and I'm going to use another example,
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  Speaker 1: when you look at Jay, when you look at Puff,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: You can't name one person around Puff that was with
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: him when he started. Not one. If I told you, yo,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: name me one, you can't name one. All of the
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: names that people would say, nah, they don't work for Puff.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: They don't work for Puff. They might be his friends
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: if they do their own thing. But when you look
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: at Jay, you say, okay, I see Warren. I see Ty.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: I see Emery. I see Jay. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: I see Kodak, like you see people who, and see
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Puff thing, what really damaged Puff was when he has
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: his homies like me around and stuff like that, he
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: still gives that executive power or that executive call to
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: the people that he don't know.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Just because they went to college or just because they
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: graduated from Yale. And it's that, okay, one thing you
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: got to learn how to separate things. Okay, when it
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: comes to business, I ain't gonna let Barnes pick up
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: the phone and make no million dollar call. But when
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: it comes to my life, I'm like, y'all pick up
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: the phone and call Barnes.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: Y'all pick up the phone. That's my guy.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: That's my guy. So you probably can't call such and such.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: You can't call a nigga from West, bubble fuck that nigga,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: say yo now. And then you say something about 50,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: hold up. I gotta listen to what Yale say because
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: he know more about the person Because I always tell people,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: the person that you see is not that person. That's
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: the mask that they put on before they come out
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: to society. But a nigga who been with him for 10,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: 20 years, he knows the person. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: So I tell these kids all the time, yo, don't
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: let that stuff get you to the point where you'll
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: do anything for that person. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: And I tell them, I say, yo, Family is the
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: most important. I don't give a fuck. Family is the
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: most important thing that a person got.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Especially when you're a dude. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: We've been on the visit rooms, man. Ain't nobody down there.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I ain't saying everybody, but ain't nobody down there but 60-year-old,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: 70-year-old mother. I'm coming to see your son.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: And that's why we want everybody to get this book
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: from a guy that's real.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: It's the real report. Tell them where we can find
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: the book at, man, Barnes.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: Everywhere. Everywhere.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: Amazon.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: Let them everywhere.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: You can Google Roger Barnes. It'll come up.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: Everywhere. The book is everywhere. Shopify, everywhere.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Make sure y'all pick it up, man. Thanks for having
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: you on the show, Roger Barnes.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: And this money is helping with my son, so please.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: Go get that book. Oh, definitely, man. You know what
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? Definitely. Support the Booker. Let's help get Roger Barnes'
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: son home, man. He in Africa. Crazy charges. Let's get
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: him home, man. Let's go.