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John Oehser, Ashlyn Sullivan and Brian Sexton take you inside the Jaguars as Training Camp 2018 enters it's second week! · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Jaguars Jaguars Digital, Jaguars Drivetime Bryan Sexton, John Oshan,
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Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan, Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack's Drive Time. Sun starting to rise in
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Speaker 1: the east. That is east, isn't it is east? Uh?
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Speaker 1: We're also thrown off today that Jaguars have adjusted the
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Speaker 1: practice schedule. They will go this afternoon to two thirty
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Speaker 1: instead of this morning at ten thirties. So in case
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Speaker 1: you were making plans to come down and join us
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Speaker 1: here at t i A a bank field today, know
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Speaker 1: that you have to change your plans as well. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drive Time, the last single show for a
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Speaker 1: long time, because next week this program becomes a five
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Speaker 1: day a week endeavor. You said we were throwing off.
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Speaker 1: I'm not throwing off. I'm agile hostel ready, the hostile
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Speaker 1: thing ready. There is no doubt, is right there? High Ash,
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Speaker 1: how are yourning? I'm good. I'm a little thrown off
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Speaker 1: as I'm gonna miss my afternoon yoga class now, but
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Speaker 1: it's okay. So this afternoon too, John, the day that
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Speaker 1: you go to a yoga class, we're gonna grab Max
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Speaker 1: and pull him out of his room back there with
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Speaker 1: a camera and that will be must see. Okay, you've
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Speaker 1: completely thrown me off. We have a great Twitter poll today, right,
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Speaker 1: Uh so our Jags Drive time poll today is who
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Speaker 1: is the most underappreciated player on the Jaguars defense when
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Speaker 1: we start talking about it? And the genesis of this
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Speaker 1: is you start talking about Calais Campbell unique and go aay,
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack, Kelvin Smith, Jalen Ramsey, a j boy A,
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Speaker 1: and you go, wow, what a load of defense, and
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Speaker 1: you forget about some people. And these are three players.
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Speaker 1: Dante obviously has been in the news. Uh he's not
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Speaker 1: practicing right now, but had ten sacks last year account
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Speaker 1: the two that he had in the playoffs. Marcel had
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Speaker 1: a terrific day yesterday and to Shaun Gibson proclaimed himself
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Speaker 1: the best safety in the a f C. So, which
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Speaker 1: of those three players is the one that is in
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Speaker 1: need of more appreciation? So hit it and we'll give
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Speaker 1: you the updates as we go through the day. Another
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Speaker 1: player who spoke yesterday and spoke volumes was Austin Seferian Jenkins. Now,
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Speaker 1: since he showed up, he's done two things. He's made
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Speaker 1: plays and he said interesting things. He is a guy
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Speaker 1: who I think will become a go to guy in
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Speaker 1: the locker room. Sure he hit a third thing. He
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Speaker 1: sure endeared himself with a quarterback yesterday. Smart guy. Yeah, Well,
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Speaker 1: take a listen. Here's what he had to say about
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Speaker 1: quarterback Blake Bortles. Went asked if perception and reality we're
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Speaker 1: finding some common ground around the National Football League with
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Speaker 1: the relation at number five. People gotta realize the progression
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Speaker 1: of Blake Bortles from yere one to two, a year
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Speaker 1: three too, year four, and now year five with a
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Speaker 1: different offensive system, and see the jump he met. You
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Speaker 1: know a lot of people want to talk bad about
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Speaker 1: this and that last year, that was his best year.
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Speaker 1: If you look at his statsu did a lot better
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Speaker 1: than a lot of other third two quarterbacks in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: I mean, so they can say whatever they want about it.
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Speaker 1: They can say negative things, but Blake's gonna keep going
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Speaker 1: back there. He's gonna keep making throws and when he
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Speaker 1: needs a run, he's gonna run. He's gonna do what
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Speaker 1: it takes to win. That's what you want on the quarterback. Interesting,
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Speaker 1: he points out the Bills game and he wasn't even
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Speaker 1: on the roster. At that point, he was still a
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Speaker 1: New York Jet And the other thing was that he
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Speaker 1: was walking down the whole way. After the press conference,
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Speaker 1: he kept going with the theme of is there another
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Speaker 1: quarterback from their draft class? Because they were both drafted
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Speaker 1: in the same draft class. Who would want a playoff game?
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Speaker 1: Let alone to let alone one on the road in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: Exactly right, And the argument can go round and round
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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, and it's going to go around and around,
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Speaker 1: you know, I guess add nausey because it hasn't stopped yet,
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Speaker 1: even after winning two playoff games. What Austin nunciated yesterday
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Speaker 1: was the book on why this team believes in Blake Portles.
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Speaker 1: They believe he's a winner, they believe he's tough. Tom
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Speaker 1: Coffin was on a radio show, I think last week
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Speaker 1: saying the same thing. Resilient, willing to come back, short memory, uh,
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Speaker 1: doesn't let bad things. Whether those are all the things
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Speaker 1: this team loves about him. I don't think anybody would
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Speaker 1: tell you, even in the orgization, that he doesn't have flaws.
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Speaker 1: But they believe, and I think you're seeing it at practice,
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Speaker 1: so that there is a way in a very easily
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Speaker 1: accessible way to win with this guy. You know, I
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Speaker 1: know you've noticed it on the field, but off the field,
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Speaker 1: they walk on and off the field together. They're chatting,
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Speaker 1: they're eating together, walking through the lunch room. These two
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Speaker 1: guys have formed a bond. Absolutely, I think it says
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Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, I'm sure Mark Kisley would say
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Speaker 1: the same thing, who's been with Blake for a number
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Speaker 1: of years. But for a new guy who hasn't even
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Speaker 1: played a game with Blake Portles yet to say that,
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Speaker 1: that speaks a lot of this team. Sure, all right,
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Speaker 1: don't forget this week. The Jaguars again practice today to
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Speaker 1: thirty two thirty tomorrow. I presume they're back at the
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Speaker 1: ten thirty Thursday ten thirty. Then Family Night Friday night,
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Speaker 1: gates open at five, Practice starts at six, Autographs, fireworks.
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Speaker 1: If you've been out there the last couple of years,
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Speaker 1: it's a great festive summer evening here in Duval County
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Speaker 1: with the football team. So coming out to Family Night
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Speaker 1: Friday night again, gates open at five o'clock. Time to
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Speaker 1: move on to big things here on drive time and
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Speaker 1: big thing one is where we started. Yes, that makes sense,
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Speaker 1: doesn't it? It does big thing. One the big guys
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Speaker 1: we talked off season about we couldn't find out much
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Speaker 1: about the offensive and defensive line until the pads are on. Well,
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Speaker 1: now the pads are on, and we have found out
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Speaker 1: a lot. Those pass russing joels where the O line
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Speaker 1: goes against the D line have been some of the
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Speaker 1: most exciting moments of practice. You've seen unique and Goatway's quickness.
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Speaker 1: You've seen extra reps from will Richard Sin and Taven Brian,
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Speaker 1: and you've seen A. J. Cann hold his own first.
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Speaker 1: And you know it's great that you went right there
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Speaker 1: because that Everyone can talk about Calais Campbell how he looks,
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Speaker 1: but when you watched A. J. Cann on Saturday Night,
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Speaker 1: whether he lined up against Malik Jackson or Marcel Darius
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Speaker 1: and performed well or against a young guy who he
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Speaker 1: put on his back, A J. Cann looks serious and
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Speaker 1: like he had he had taken seriously the challenge to
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Speaker 1: his right guard spot, which he's held since a rookie. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I have feeling all throughout the offseason that maybe more
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Speaker 1: was getting made of this right guard competition then was
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Speaker 1: going to be reality When you look at it, this
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Speaker 1: is the guy who has started every year of his career.
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Speaker 1: He's a third year guy or a fourth year guy,
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Speaker 1: three years of starting under his belt, a third round pick.
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Speaker 1: As you've mentioned many times, Brian, there have been times
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Speaker 1: where he has played at a high level for short burst.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that realistic that somebody's gonna
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Speaker 1: come along and take the job. All that said, he
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Speaker 1: looks stronger, um more focused. However you define that, then
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Speaker 1: he has in the first three years, contract year sense
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Speaker 1: of urgency, whatever has motivated him. He looks the part.
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Speaker 1: I think the right guard competition is over before it starts, agreed.
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Speaker 1: I think I mean competition brings out the best and people,
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Speaker 1: and you see that with a J. Cann that's for sure,
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Speaker 1: and other guys who stood out. Yesterday, you came off
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Speaker 1: the field talking about Marcel Darius and the way that
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Speaker 1: he had performed. Well, it's hard on this defensive line
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Speaker 1: to look and be surprised with guys because they've all
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Speaker 1: been so good in the past. You've got four guys
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Speaker 1: who've been in the Pro Bowl, or two other guys
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Speaker 1: who are first round picks. This is an unbelievably talented group.
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Speaker 1: Every time you watch Marcel Darius. What blows you away
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Speaker 1: is that he might be the most talented guy on
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Speaker 1: the defensive line. And you wouldn't think that with Clais
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Speaker 1: Campbell there with unique way. But I'm talking in terms
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Speaker 1: of be able to use his hands, his strength and
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Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft, and that's saying it's it's
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Speaker 1: easy to forget. Sometimes you look at guys and you
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Speaker 1: realize this guy's put together differently. There's a reason some
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Speaker 1: guys go in the top five. Uh, Marcel Darius is
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Speaker 1: you know, he and I guess Fowler and Bordles are
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Speaker 1: the three highest drafted guys on this team. There are moments,
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Speaker 1: flash moments where you look at Darius and realize why
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Speaker 1: that's hard to do on the interior of the line.
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Speaker 1: You know, on the edge of the line, it's easy.
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Speaker 1: You flash around, you get a sack. Airbady is happy
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Speaker 1: and jumping around like Ashland. But on the inside usually
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's about strange. But this guy does things
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Speaker 1: athletically that are different. Remember Telvin Smith's touchdown in the
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Speaker 1: playoff game in Pittsburgh. Darius made that happen. He took
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Speaker 1: two guys and rocked him backwards, which freed up in
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Speaker 1: gowk way to get around the edge and make the sack.
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Speaker 1: And that's not that unusual to play for him. And
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Speaker 1: the other thing he did was he held onto those
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Speaker 1: guys so that they couldn't recover the bowl, which took
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Speaker 1: a bounce again because of where he was took a
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Speaker 1: bounce to tell then and he went back. It's things
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Speaker 1: like that that don't show up in stats columns that
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Speaker 1: show you how dominant he can be. It's fascinating to
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Speaker 1: watch his hands, how quick they are, and then after
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Speaker 1: he uses the hands to get the offensive moment off bound,
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Speaker 1: his strength and quickness to use it again. You might
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Speaker 1: be looking at a guy who's had a good career
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Speaker 1: so far, with a chance to have a career. Here
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Speaker 1: his shoulders and his hips. Right when you look at
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Speaker 1: the guy, his shoulders are wide, so are his hips,
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Speaker 1: which means he gets that base. But it's this power
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Speaker 1: from here to here that you just can't account for
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Speaker 1: and you can't move him. So he's been on All
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Speaker 1: Pro and he's a third overall pick. It's it's not
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Speaker 1: like we're breaking news this guy's talent. Have you voted
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Speaker 1: on Twitter? Point uh sounds like that be your vote?
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Speaker 1: What Twitter? Now that's actually he's not my vote. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: well we're talking about that later. You know, by the
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Speaker 1: way we mentioned all those guys I forgot Mollie Jackson.
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Speaker 1: I talk about a guy who I think has had
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Speaker 1: a good come. You forgot Hi. Maybe he's the most
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Speaker 1: he could be. I didn't put him in the poll
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Speaker 1: because Silver, Look, you didn't put him the poll, you know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he was the highest paid defensive lineman in
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Speaker 1: football two years ago. And he'll he will know. And
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Speaker 1: that's what I love about because he'll tell you he's
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Speaker 1: still got a lot of money that he wants to earn.
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Speaker 1: But so far for the big guys. The other one
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Speaker 1: worth talking about Andrew Norwell, who the first night looked
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Speaker 1: pretty good. I did not get a chance to spend
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Speaker 1: much time watching him yesterday, but Saturday night I thought,
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Speaker 1: oh boy, yeah, he's worth that contract. I thought he
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Speaker 1: looked apart. Again, I didn't. I'll confess I didn't watch
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Speaker 1: him as much as I was watching Tavin Bryant, as
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Speaker 1: much as there's another drawn to a unique and got way.
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Speaker 1: Uh but what you well, you want to see from
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Speaker 1: Norwell is you want to see him hold his ground.
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Speaker 1: You want to with interior offensive linement especially, you want
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Speaker 1: to you want to not notice them, and I think
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Speaker 1: you won't notice Norwell in a positive way. I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to watch him a whole lot until I'm worried,
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Speaker 1: and I don't in his fate being worried about Norwell.
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Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning here with big thing Number two. Competition.
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Speaker 1: Competition is what makes this time so exciting and so
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Speaker 1: eager to watch practice. Guys fighting only for starting spots,
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Speaker 1: but just to make this roster. And guys, when you
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Speaker 1: think about competition, the only thing you can really think
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Speaker 1: of as of now is wide receivers. So many guys,
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Speaker 1: there are so many reps and different guys making as
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Speaker 1: every day. I think that's a valid point is you
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Speaker 1: know you talk about competition at positions. You know you
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Speaker 1: can go through every position group and pretty much name
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Speaker 1: the starter in the backup wide receiver might be the
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Speaker 1: loan group where you're saying, Okay, well you know what
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Speaker 1: marquis and you expect mont Dante Moncrief and Keelan Cole,
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Speaker 1: but you know how to four and five playout? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I wonder where they're going to find a place for
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Speaker 1: Tavin Bryant. Uh. I think Leon Jacobs is the leader
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Speaker 1: in the clubhouse for a strong sidebacker over Blair Browns.
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Speaker 1: I think Blair brown had someone confirmed that to me,
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Speaker 1: and I think they like Blair Brown at offside and
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Speaker 1: we side in middle a lot. But a point being
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Speaker 1: those are the two spots that you wonder, I've been
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Speaker 1: saying all along the wide receiver, how it shakes out
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Speaker 1: is the most fascinating part of camp. I would be
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Speaker 1: surprised if it's not the five or six we've been
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Speaker 1: talking to out the five being Lee, Moncrieff, Cole, Westbrook
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Speaker 1: and Shark. Is Rashad Green a factor in there? I think?
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Speaker 1: So where does Chart come along and fit in? How quickly.
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Speaker 1: Can he become one of the main three Westbrook all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're hearing good things about at the
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Speaker 1: same time, has Westbrook caught coal to be part of
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Speaker 1: that top three? Cole I think is a guy who
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Speaker 1: might wind up in a starting role before the end
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Speaker 1: of the season if he continues to develop. So, as
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Speaker 1: you said, it's the one group where you've got guys
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Speaker 1: from the bottom pushing hard, and I think Moncrieff and
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Speaker 1: Lee start and her solid and started, but more than
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Speaker 1: any other position on the team, maybe they've got to
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Speaker 1: work to keep those spots well. And it spills over
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Speaker 1: the competition at receiver does to punt returner because there
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Speaker 1: you have D. D. Westbrook and Rashad Green and Jaydon
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Speaker 1: Mickens all competing for that spot and that person it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be active on game day. So you would think
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Speaker 1: would have a role as the fifth wide receivers because
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Speaker 1: I see Chart being four, and because his natural physical gifts.
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Speaker 1: So the fifth receiver is also your punt returner. And
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Speaker 1: in that you've got Westbrook, who was a lights out
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Speaker 1: punt return In fact, the jack was drafted him with
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Speaker 1: the idea that he would be their punt returner. And
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Speaker 1: you've got Rashad Green, who has won a game. He
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Speaker 1: won of the Titans game here a few years ago
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Speaker 1: with a long return and scored a touchdown as a
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Speaker 1: returner and was a lights out returnment at Florida State.
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Speaker 1: And then j D mckins who did what he did
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Speaker 1: last year with a long return for the touchdown against
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Speaker 1: the Bengals and the long return that set up a
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Speaker 1: touchdown against the Seahawks. A rare thing in the NFL
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Speaker 1: because a lot of times we're sitting here and talk
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Speaker 1: about depth competition, and the reality is once it's time
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Speaker 1: to cut guys, it's not as hard in the room
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Speaker 1: as maybe we're all talking about. With this one, I
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Speaker 1: think you've got a real difficult decision that as you
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Speaker 1: say Brian plays into the receiver room, I hear the
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Speaker 1: same thing. They want Westbrook to win this. They would
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Speaker 1: love for it because it would help them on game
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Speaker 1: day have probably the five best receivers up with Westbrook
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Speaker 1: being the punt returner. And I get that. At the
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Speaker 1: same time, if if you're going to have Westbrook as
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Speaker 1: your punt returner, you have to release Jadon Mickins. I
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Speaker 1: think that would be an easy thing to do. Releasing
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Speaker 1: Jadon Mickens means that at some point Tom Coughin and
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Speaker 1: Dave Caldball I have to sit in room and let
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Speaker 1: a guy go who they have seen has the ability
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Speaker 1: to do this job at the NFL level. Westbrook hasn't
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Speaker 1: done that yet. Jaden's got a very quick ability to
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Speaker 1: turn the ball up field, hit the whole quickly, all
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Speaker 1: those things that are for some reason hard. At punt returner,
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Speaker 1: he is shown he can do. He's had results. He
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Speaker 1: is a hard cut. I don't think he's the receiver
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Speaker 1: the other guys are, but he's a hard guy to
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Speaker 1: release from your team, Well, unless you decide you're gonna
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Speaker 1: keep six receivers, which they have in the pastor round.
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Speaker 1: But Rashaan's to cut, That's what I was going to say.
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Speaker 1: He's equally hard to come. He's a guy who's done
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Speaker 1: at this level, and he's a guy who's flashed as
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Speaker 1: a receiver, especially in the slot. He might be the
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Speaker 1: true slot receiver, the only true slot receiver this team
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Speaker 1: has on the raw. If you let Green go, which
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Speaker 1: is a possibility, you're letting go a guy who if
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Speaker 1: you have injuries and he's on another team. You might
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Speaker 1: be sitting here in October saying there's a guy on
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Speaker 1: another team who could be producing in a big way
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Speaker 1: for this team. That's a scary thing on September one,
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Speaker 1: whenever you're making your releases. There was a time in
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Speaker 1: the not too distant passed around here where the problem
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Speaker 1: wasn't cutting as we're talking about, it was stopping right there.
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Speaker 1: Just weren't enough players that you felt like deserved to
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Speaker 1: be on the roster where you wanted to be cutting
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Speaker 1: it like yours. But now, but now now you really
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Speaker 1: have some issues as you go forward here. So this
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Speaker 1: will be interesting. But the greatest competition at camp, the
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Speaker 1: most visible is that receiver punt return absolutely And another
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Speaker 1: competition go ahead is linebacker, like we talked about, and
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Speaker 1: I spoke to Leon Jacobs yesterday about the strong side
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Speaker 1: linebacker position and he thinks that job is his and
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Speaker 1: he's working really hard for it. Hopefully on a seventh
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Speaker 1: round pick at a Wisconsin a lot of people are surprised,
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a ton of first round reps
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Speaker 1: the number one days. Why do you say those people
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Speaker 1: letters for I'm obviously right now if you're getting for
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Speaker 1: the sun job. A lot of linebackers in the room,
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Speaker 1: so you know what it's going out there and balling
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Speaker 1: every day. Telvin, you know, after every practice of job
18:27
Speaker 1: as a group going to getting either bag or round
18:30
Speaker 1: jugs and speaking of Telvin taking over a leadership role
18:34
Speaker 1: that wasn't fair last year with help a lastie, what
18:36
Speaker 1: is that linebacker room? Like, I know there's a lot
18:38
Speaker 1: of strong personalities with Telvin and Miles, and I mean
18:41
Speaker 1: it's obviously you got Talvan the Miles. You know, I
18:43
Speaker 1: was smiling, but at like one of let me do football.
18:46
Speaker 1: It's always serious at the end of day. Both bottle
18:51
Speaker 1: so we stop spoke about those strong fun personalities of
18:53
Speaker 1: Telvin Smith and Myles Jack. But he said when they're
18:56
Speaker 1: on the field, it's strictly football. And you saw yesterday
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Speaker 1: at practice that linebacker group as a whole state after
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Speaker 1: practice for about another ten minutes and worked just within themselves.
19:04
Speaker 1: A little known fact, Brian, he didn't cut his sleeves off.
19:06
Speaker 1: They came off when he put his arms in. And
19:10
Speaker 1: he might be the most physically impressive player on this
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Speaker 1: team in terms of his strength. It's a big reason
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Speaker 1: why he got drafted uh and physically at the combine,
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Speaker 1: very impressive. What you wondered and the reason he slipped
19:25
Speaker 1: so far could have translate to the field. But you
19:28
Speaker 1: can certainly see he has the physical ability to hold
19:31
Speaker 1: the edge of the strong sidebacker, which is a huge
19:33
Speaker 1: part of that position. And everyone was looking. They were
19:35
Speaker 1: looking at the bulging biceps, right, the massive arms that
19:38
Speaker 1: he's got, but they're also long. It's got the length
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Speaker 1: that they want because from that position, they want a
19:43
Speaker 1: multi pronged guy. They want a guy who can go
19:45
Speaker 1: get the quarterback, and that's what he did when he
19:47
Speaker 1: was at Wisconsin. They also need a guy who can
19:49
Speaker 1: drop back and play in coverage, and he didn't do
19:52
Speaker 1: as much of that in college. So I've watched him
19:54
Speaker 1: intently the last few days, working against Austin, Sephari and Jenkins.
19:58
Speaker 1: He's been pretty good. He was he was in his
20:00
Speaker 1: hip coming out of O. T A. S. Was when
20:03
Speaker 1: this shift sort of guy may well there's no physical
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Speaker 1: contact in O t A. He was playing well in
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Speaker 1: the passing game. They liked him enough that you started
20:12
Speaker 1: hearing at the end of O. T A S that
20:13
Speaker 1: he had a chance to be the guy. And he's
20:15
Speaker 1: shown that so far in camp A Big Thing three
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Speaker 1: young ladies, Big Thing three one to watch. With five
20:21
Speaker 1: practices this week by Saturday, we have a lot of
20:23
Speaker 1: time to look at key individuals. So let's go around
20:25
Speaker 1: the table and pick our ones to watch this weeks.
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Speaker 1: Me first, I think it's gotta be awesome Severian Jenkins,
20:31
Speaker 1: especially after that press conference. I want to see him
20:34
Speaker 1: take the next step. I know at the beginning of
20:36
Speaker 1: training camp we talked about these new guys on the team,
20:38
Speaker 1: weren't really sure what to expect with this kind of
20:41
Speaker 1: training camp, and he was a little of shape the
20:43
Speaker 1: first two days, but you already see the difference by
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Speaker 1: day five of the shape he's in and I'd like
20:47
Speaker 1: to see him take that next step on the field. Um,
20:50
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Leonard Fournette. I considered leon j
20:53
Speaker 1: because we've talked about him. Leonard Fournett. It sounds strange
20:57
Speaker 1: to say that you wonder where his ceiling is, that
21:01
Speaker 1: that he's a guy who can still fulfill potential. He's
21:04
Speaker 1: number four overall pick. He was a top hundred player
21:06
Speaker 1: in the NFL Countdown thing and he ran for a
21:09
Speaker 1: thousand yards. But watching him last year, you got the
21:12
Speaker 1: feeling at the end of the year that he hadn't
21:14
Speaker 1: scratched the surface of what he might be. I thought
21:17
Speaker 1: there were times where he didn't show the miss ability
21:20
Speaker 1: that you want in a top elite running back. What
21:24
Speaker 1: I wonder is fifteen pounds lighter. He sure looks like
21:28
Speaker 1: a different, more athletic player right now. Will that lost
21:35
Speaker 1: weight because he doesn't look weaker by any means, he
21:38
Speaker 1: just looks in better shape. Will that give him the
21:41
Speaker 1: miss ability? Will that translate to being in pads? That's
21:44
Speaker 1: what I'm watching for the next three or four days.
21:46
Speaker 1: This week, I'm gonna focus on two guys at one spot,
21:49
Speaker 1: and it's the strong end spot behind Calias where you've
21:53
Speaker 1: got Tavin Bryan and DJ Smoot and Smooth showing me
21:57
Speaker 1: something so far. I mean, he he was a strong
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Speaker 1: with some explosiveness last year, but he didn't know what
22:03
Speaker 1: he was doing. I mean, he was just out there
22:05
Speaker 1: using that. This year, it's clear that he understands the
22:08
Speaker 1: position and the defense, and I've been impressed with him.
22:12
Speaker 1: The other guy is Davin Brian, first round pick, who
22:16
Speaker 1: has shown now he's going to line up at the
22:17
Speaker 1: strong side end. They've worked him inside some two. He's
22:20
Speaker 1: shown incredible power. And by the way, there was a
22:22
Speaker 1: drill on a special team's drill where the they were
22:26
Speaker 1: going through a bag and then catching a ball up
22:28
Speaker 1: the field. He had to get up the field. He
22:31
Speaker 1: moves Now, I mean, boy, can that guy run. Unbelievable athleticism.
22:35
Speaker 1: But when he lines up in these pass rush drills,
22:38
Speaker 1: the live drills in particular, the only thing I've seen
22:41
Speaker 1: from him is power, right, So he's using his natural
22:44
Speaker 1: ability because he's still learning the defense. But what you see, boy,
22:49
Speaker 1: where the Jaguars in a fortunate position to have a
22:52
Speaker 1: player like that available to them at number twenty nine.
22:55
Speaker 1: So I'm going to focus on those two guys. That's
22:56
Speaker 1: an area of great depth behind Calais Campbell with young
23:00
Speaker 1: talented players. I agree with you philosophically because Smoot and
23:03
Speaker 1: Brian in the last two years. So Tom Coughlin's philosophy,
23:09
Speaker 1: the way this team wants to play defensive line. They
23:12
Speaker 1: believe in huge numbers on that front, being able to rotate.
23:16
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some guys released. Obviously, Smoot and Brian
23:20
Speaker 1: are the guys who need to develop. Both of them
23:22
Speaker 1: need to develop in order for this team to maintain
23:25
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23:27
Speaker 1: it is the defensive lot. Big things complete, more to
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Speaker 1: It's happy to have you back with us on Jaguar's
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Speaker 1: Drive Time. It's time for some ozone snapshot. Our first
25:13
Speaker 1: one is Rhino from g Ville, South Carolina, who was
25:17
Speaker 1: the biggest threat to overtake a j Can at Right Guard.
25:20
Speaker 1: I know they've only had two days in paths, but
25:22
Speaker 1: how is this offensive line looking as a whole so far? Well, Brian,
25:27
Speaker 1: I don't think there is. I don't think there is either.
25:29
Speaker 1: We talked about this and uh and the offensive lines
25:31
Speaker 1: looked good. I mean, it's it's still hard because you've
25:35
Speaker 1: had some nine on seven, you've had some live Um,
25:37
Speaker 1: it's so hard for the offensive line to establish a
25:42
Speaker 1: dominance early in training camp because so much of the
25:45
Speaker 1: line is about cohesion, it's about getting some games together.
25:49
Speaker 1: Sometimes the line won't establish domins in a game until
25:51
Speaker 1: the fourth quarters, so you never get that in preseason.
25:54
Speaker 1: All of the individuals you're watching, to me, look fine.
25:59
Speaker 1: I don't see any problems on the offensive line. I
26:02
Speaker 1: don't know there's anything to worry about, but it's just
26:04
Speaker 1: hard to judge so far. Here's something to be excited about.
26:06
Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell has had a couple of good days of camp,
26:09
Speaker 1: especially in past protection against smaller, quicker guys, and I
26:12
Speaker 1: haven't seen him in a brace. Well that's it, which
26:14
Speaker 1: is interesting. Yeah, you know last year he was braced up.
26:16
Speaker 1: He looked like a you know, the bionic man. He
26:18
Speaker 1: embraces from elbows and any of his knees. And he
26:22
Speaker 1: looks good for a guy who struggled a bit last
26:26
Speaker 1: year to stay healthy. That he is not relying on
26:28
Speaker 1: him right now, and he's playing so well in camp.
26:30
Speaker 1: It's a good summer. He's got him a couple of
26:32
Speaker 1: times in pass rush, but in gooi he's gonna get
26:34
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in past Another guy William Pell's
26:36
Speaker 1: the guy. They brought him last year practice squad. Mostly
26:40
Speaker 1: a right tackle, has worked at right guard and smit
26:42
Speaker 1: left tackle. At this looks like he slimmed down a
26:44
Speaker 1: little bit. He's cut his locks slightly. They fit under
26:47
Speaker 1: the helmet. There's better than me and he his strength
26:51
Speaker 1: if it can be harnessed, so to speak, well, he's huge.
26:54
Speaker 1: It's impressive. It's impressive now. So I think the aufenship
26:57
Speaker 1: lying so far is a net positive. And have a
27:00
Speaker 1: really even had a chance to see them next week
27:02
Speaker 1: after after the Saints game, we'll have more that we
27:05
Speaker 1: can talk about. But it looks like there's some guys
27:07
Speaker 1: competing for you know, spot seven eight nine. All right,
27:10
Speaker 1: you ready for the next one? All right, let's do
27:13
Speaker 1: Rick from Virginia, Oh watching clips of the one v
27:16
Speaker 1: one offensive defensive line drills from Saturday night, I see
27:20
Speaker 1: clear violations of the leading with the helmet rule as written.
27:23
Speaker 1: Do you see the same thing? And I don't know,
27:26
Speaker 1: you know, wow, because I don't even know the rule yet. Yeah,
27:29
Speaker 1: and a lot of people you can't intentionally lead with
27:33
Speaker 1: the help. I know how the rules written, right, But
27:36
Speaker 1: I've said all through the off season subjective. I'll continue
27:38
Speaker 1: to say, we won't really know the impact of this rule.
27:41
Speaker 1: And I included this question because it's a logical question,
27:44
Speaker 1: although one it's hard to answer. We won't really know
27:48
Speaker 1: what this rule, how it's going to take place until
27:52
Speaker 1: you start seeing the officials called. The officials will be
27:54
Speaker 1: in here the meet. I'll have a chance to talk
27:56
Speaker 1: with him on Friday. We'll ask the question, and I
28:00
Speaker 1: still don't know that we'll have the answer until you
28:02
Speaker 1: start seeing how the league once this rule officiated. Talking
28:07
Speaker 1: to Tom Coughlin about it before the draft, he said, basically,
28:12
Speaker 1: the league wants to get rid of that obvious intentional
28:16
Speaker 1: play too intently injured. I guess the best way to
28:20
Speaker 1: put I think that's the way it'll wind up being called.
28:24
Speaker 1: But if you call it by the letter of the law,
28:27
Speaker 1: it's very difficult. So we'll see. I was reading an
28:30
Speaker 1: article yesterday in the Chicago Tribune and the comment was
28:33
Speaker 1: made by an official that they will not penalize the
28:36
Speaker 1: player who drops his helmet to defend himself. Well, so
28:40
Speaker 1: that brings into subjectivity, which the league always try to
28:43
Speaker 1: get subjectivity out. With this one, it has to come
28:46
Speaker 1: in if it's going to be called correctly. That's difficult,
28:48
Speaker 1: which means that you'll know it when you see it
28:51
Speaker 1: has to be established on the field. This year, we've
28:54
Speaker 1: got everyone, the fans watching at home, those of us
28:57
Speaker 1: in the stadium have got to go through a year
28:59
Speaker 1: so that we can see what they the officials see then.
29:03
Speaker 1: And that's a mammoth break in philosophy from what the
29:06
Speaker 1: Competition Committee has always wanted. You see why they did
29:09
Speaker 1: it because they have to send it back concussions. But
29:11
Speaker 1: when they eliminated the forced out rule ten years ago,
29:16
Speaker 1: it was because they wanted to have it not be
29:20
Speaker 1: left to decision, you know. So for years they've tried
29:23
Speaker 1: to get it to where the official didn't have to
29:25
Speaker 1: make decisions like that on the field about intent, And
29:28
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you're bringing it back. It's
29:31
Speaker 1: it's going to be controversial, it's going to be a topic,
29:34
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see how it goes all right,
29:37
Speaker 1: every ring else, this one's just to start. I don't
29:39
Speaker 1: even know if I should include it. Gary from St.
29:43
Speaker 1: Augustine Zone. Dante Fowler Jr. Last week Described himself as
29:47
Speaker 1: a straight dog. Are you too a straight dog? Oh? No,
29:51
Speaker 1: here we go well, I'm not sure why the season
29:54
Speaker 1: needs to be apash. I mean, I think it's obvious
29:56
Speaker 1: that straight dog. I have never once in my life
30:01
Speaker 1: thought to college John Osier a straight dog. I don't
30:05
Speaker 1: get that. But from now on I will here's to you.
30:11
Speaker 1: I think that's all we have, thankfully, Thankfully, I don't
30:14
Speaker 1: want to see any more of that going on, yo dog,
30:17
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, we'll leave it on that. Don't
30:20
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30:23
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