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Turning Your Passion Into Your Profession · Whatever It Takes with Carli Lloyd and Jenny Taft

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  Speaker 1: When I got to FS1, so when I first moved
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  Speaker 1: to LA, they came to me and said, like, how
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  Speaker 1: do you feel about motorcycle racing? Do you know anything
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  Speaker 1: about this? And I kind of lied. It wasn't really
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  Speaker 1: a lie because I knew a little bit. I knew
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  Speaker 1: Ricky Carmichael was the GOAT. And I weirdly knew that
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  Speaker 1: because my brother was into moto and had a random poster.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know anything else about moto. But they said,
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  Speaker 1: we need a reporter to cover this. I remember feeling
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  Speaker 1: like some people were like, oh, she's going to cover
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  Speaker 1: motorcycle racing. But in my head, it was the long game.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, I don't care what I'm being asked
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  Speaker 1: to do at Fox. I'm going to go get some
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  Speaker 1: reps and I'm going to cover motorcycle racing and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to learn it and love it and embrace it.
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  Speaker 1: It was the best thing that ever happened to me
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  Speaker 1: by far as a reporter. I was like, if I
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  Speaker 1: can be a good reporter at this, I can be
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  Speaker 1: a good reporter at anything. Welcome to Whatever It Takes
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  Speaker 1: with Carly Lloyd and Jenny Taft. We have so much
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  Speaker 1: to get into today. Let's jump in. So Carly, latest
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  Speaker 1: and greatest. What have you been up to? I know
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  Speaker 1: you were busy on a vacation, but maybe not so
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  Speaker 1: much vacation. Yeah, we went to the Jersey Shore, went
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  Speaker 1: to LBI. So we took a little vacation with Brian's family.
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  Speaker 1: And it was, I mean, she's just, she's crazy. She
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  Speaker 1: does not stop.
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  Speaker 2: She has no fear in the ocean. She runs all
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  Speaker 2: over the place. The amount of stuff we had to pack.
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  Speaker 2: We took Brian's truck. So he's got a F-150, which
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  Speaker 2: is pretty big, pretty spacious. But the amount of stuff
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  Speaker 2: that you have to bring for little ones is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So we got back this morning. So I'm, you know,
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  Speaker 2: happily recording this. I took a little snooze before. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're just, you're not at home. They sleep
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  Speaker 2: a little bit differently. Harper was getting up kind of early.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, it was just, you know, it's not a
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  Speaker 2: relaxing vacation. My relaxing vacations are all over. But you're
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  Speaker 2: probably in a little bit of a more sweeter spot
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  Speaker 2: with Gigi being four.
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  Speaker 1: It gets a little better, I will admit. And it's
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  Speaker 1: all special and fun. And yes, you're still going to
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  Speaker 1: go on the vacation. But, you know, now I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to travel with As much stuff like the pack
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  Speaker 1: and play we don't need where, you know, we don't
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  Speaker 1: need the crazy car seat that.
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  Speaker 3: We needed when she was much younger. We have a
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  Speaker 3: way more mobile one. So it's just. more doable.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't think about the stroller the same way.
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  Speaker 1: Like she really can walk fine on her own unless
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  Speaker 1: we're really on the move. So I feel you. I
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  Speaker 1: loved your pictures of Harper at the beach. She really
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  Speaker 1: just like runs in. Like there is zero fear of
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  Speaker 1: that water.
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  Speaker 2: And LBI, so LBI, the island kind of sits out
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  Speaker 2: more in New Jersey. So if it's not low tide,
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  Speaker 2: it's a pretty big drop off. And then the waves
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  Speaker 2: just kind of crash right at the shore. But we
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  Speaker 2: did go at at some low tide times. But when
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  Speaker 2: we went yesterday for a little bit in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty deep. It was probably two feet deep.
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  Speaker 2: And she would literally start from the hill and run
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  Speaker 2: straight down into the sand and then.
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  Speaker 3: Into the water.
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  Speaker 2: And you know when you're running in water, it's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit different. And then she would fall. She would
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  Speaker 2: go under. But, you know, she's been doing these ISR
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  Speaker 2: swimming lessons, which are for survival. So she knows how
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  Speaker 2: to hold her breath, but we're just like pulling her
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  Speaker 2: out of the water and she's swallowing the salt water.
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  Speaker 2: And then she just wants more and more and more.
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  Speaker 2: And so between Brian and I, we're trying to save
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  Speaker 2: her from really going under. But no, it was fun
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  Speaker 2: and we're in the thick of it, but it's all
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  Speaker 2: worth it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the ISR classes and the swim survival
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  Speaker 1: method is fascinating to me. I do regret not doing
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  Speaker 1: it with Gigi. I think it's incredible to do. I
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  Speaker 1: tried to find it when we moved to Boston. It
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  Speaker 1: was crazy how popular it is, but there's so few
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  Speaker 1: instructors who are available because it is so effective and
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  Speaker 1: so amazing. So hopefully our next kid, we will 100%
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  Speaker 1: do that because I know you feel so strongly about it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. It's been life changing. It's been fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard, though, because you can never put them in
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  Speaker 2: swimmies because they'll regress. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So what have you been up to since we last spoke?
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  Speaker 1: So latest and greatest. So I was thinking about this today.
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  Speaker 1: So I know that you know me as like Jenny,
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  Speaker 1: Reporter Jen. I tend to be like a pretty happy person.
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  Speaker 1: It takes a lot for me to not be kind.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen you in that element.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I mean. So there's this version of me.
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  Speaker 3: It is there.
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  Speaker 1: And it came out yesterday at the dentist appointment for
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  Speaker 1: my daughter. And it really did not leave. I know
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  Speaker 1: it would be boring to share a dentist story in depth,
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  Speaker 1: but the highlights are lowlights, if you will. Gigi needed
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  Speaker 1: a cavity fixed, filled.
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  Speaker 3: She's four. I mean, it just seems insane.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, I obviously want her to have healthy teeth.
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  Speaker 1: They were very inefficient with the time. And I felt
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  Speaker 1: like they did not handle her well and her comfort.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a version of me, Carly. It was
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  Speaker 1: frightening to see like mama bear in a way that
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  Speaker 1: like I'm concerned about how I'm going.
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  Speaker 3: To be with sports. Like what if kids are pushing
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  Speaker 3: her down? Yes. Like they just didn't handle the situation well.
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  Speaker 3: And they asked at the end of my appointment, how
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  Speaker 3: was everything? And I said, frankly, it was really bad.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm very underwhelmed. And I really would like a
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  Speaker 3: manager to call me immediately. It was a version of
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  Speaker 3: me that not a lot of people see.
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  Speaker 1: And we had to go back today. And I had
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  Speaker 1: to bring my husband because I was afraid what I
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  Speaker 1: was going to do. I'm not going to leave a
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  Speaker 1: negative review, but I'm just not going to, no, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going back. It was just so bad. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: still so angry about it. But It had me thinking
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  Speaker 1: about like me as a sports mom.
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  Speaker 3: It could be bad. I mean, I hope you're not.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're not a mob on the sideline running
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  Speaker 2: up and down there screaming Gigi's name and yelling at referees.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm worried now. Or other players. I
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  Speaker 3: won't do that. I won't do that.
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  Speaker 1: But I will admit if there is unfairness happening, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I do not like to let it go.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a, like jenny as a kid too like
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  Speaker 1: my parents could tell you stories like i was always
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  Speaker 1: like a freedom fighter like i was standing up for
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  Speaker 1: people in class and i didn't like when things weren't
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  Speaker 1: right and that version has definitely kind of simmered down
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  Speaker 1: but yesterday and today i was on full display so
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  Speaker 1: i'm still a little bit heated but um yeah i
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  Speaker 1: won't i won't name names but yeah we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: looking for a new dentist in town so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know just coming in hot you gotta do
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  Speaker 2: you know Gigi, you know, her poor little face.
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  Speaker 3: She's got a little swelling. It's just a lot. So anyways,
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  Speaker 3: all is good. Parenting is great. So fun. Something new
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  Speaker 3: every day. Vacation, something every day. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We, Harper was waking up the whole household very early
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  Speaker 2: in the morning. But yeah, these are, these are memories.
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  Speaker 2: These are, these are good times.
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  Speaker 1: These are memories that we are making as I was
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  Speaker 1: sleeping in Gigi's bed last night to make sure she
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  Speaker 1: was okay. So I think both of us are definitely
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  Speaker 1: functioning at a high level right now. But what I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get into today was a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the transition. Because when I think about you in your
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  Speaker 1: success as, of course, you know, the best of the best,
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  Speaker 1: when soccer was fun to when it kind of shifted
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  Speaker 1: to being like, this is a career, like this is
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  Speaker 1: how I can make it. And I remember there's so
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  Speaker 1: much to your story that needs reframing. you know, a
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  Speaker 1: longer discussion, but like times where you almost quit playing
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  Speaker 1: the game because you weren't having that success or were
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  Speaker 1: not enjoying it. So when did it kind of shift
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  Speaker 1: on soccer being fun and enjoyable to really becoming your
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  Speaker 1: life's work in a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of ways?
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  Speaker 2: I know, I think this is kind of interesting because, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you look at all these young little girls
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  Speaker 2: and boys and they have dreams and you meet them
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, I want to become a professional soccer
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  Speaker 2: player or a professional whatever. And I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's an unbelievable thing to be able to play a
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  Speaker 2: sport for a living and do that. But there's so
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  Speaker 2: much that comes with it off the field. And that's
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  Speaker 2: the hardest part. And when I look at my career, I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, look at different phases, obviously the youth phase
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  Speaker 2: where I was part of, you know, my town team
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  Speaker 2: and then travel team and then my club team where
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  Speaker 2: this club team was formed with some of the best
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  Speaker 2: players from New Jersey. There were a couple of PA players,
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  Speaker 2: Delaware players, And we had this unbelievable team. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we were like family. And to me, the joy was
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  Speaker 2: that club team, because you go away together, you play
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  Speaker 2: on the road, these tournaments. The parents, you know, my
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  Speaker 2: dad took me mostly on the road. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're going out to eat, you're staying up kind of late,
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  Speaker 2: and just fun times. And then... High school is obviously
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  Speaker 2: still a bit fun for me. And then college, there's
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  Speaker 2: a bit more pressure and obviously the academics side of it.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I got on the national team, I
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  Speaker 2: think that you have this perspective of it being a
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  Speaker 2: certain way. And I was on the national team in 2005.
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  Speaker 2: We only had a couple games. And then 2006, more regularly,
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  Speaker 2: obviously we were prepping for the 2000s. Cup it was
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  Speaker 2: cutthroat I mean I know you've probably heard some players
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  Speaker 2: talk about how hard the environment was and that was
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  Speaker 2: an environment that a lot of those 91ers 99ers kind
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  Speaker 2: of carried on um I can't say that it was
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  Speaker 2: pleasant all the time or fun to be there, but
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  Speaker 2: we were competitors and that's what made us ultimately great. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think that the playing bit of it
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  Speaker 2: on the field was kind of the easy bit. It
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  Speaker 2: was everything you had to navigate off the field. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what people don't really understand is every
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  Speaker 2: day that you step out onto the field, you have
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  Speaker 2: to perform. And if you don't perform, You're usually not
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  Speaker 2: getting selected. So the business side of it and worrying
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  Speaker 2: about coaches. I played for five different managers. How hard
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  Speaker 2: is it to play for five different managers who have
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  Speaker 2: all different philosophies and perspectives and some don't like you?
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  Speaker 2: And my motto was always, I'm going to force every
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  Speaker 2: single coach that I play for that they have to
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  Speaker 2: play me.
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  Speaker 3: Based on my performance. So yeah, it was just really hard.
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  Speaker 2: The endorsements, the opportunities off the field, the political game
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  Speaker 2: that you had to play with some people and, um,
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  Speaker 2: the media scrutinizing me, fans jumping on and off board.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think, you know, sports are, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: are a world in which they want to build you
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  Speaker 2: up and then they'll easily just break you down.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's, um.
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  Speaker 2: It's not necessarily the most joyous time, but it was
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  Speaker 2: a pretty unbelievable experience to be able to have.
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  Speaker 1: I think you saying that the easier part was training
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  Speaker 1: is why you were as successful as you were. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: one of many reasons, but the outside stress was you're
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  Speaker 1: going to handle that.
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  Speaker 3: But training was the passion you had for it. I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of people... Well, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: your teammates would say that was also the most fun
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  Speaker 1: or the easiest part. But I think that says something
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  Speaker 1: about your mindset too. Like you were there to do
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  Speaker 1: a job, but you still ultimately loved what you were doing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I loved every bit of it. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you have to love it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think nobody gets as far as I got
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  Speaker 2: or all these other successful athletes and people. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just like what you do with your world. you love
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  Speaker 2: what you do ultimately. And that's why you're the best
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  Speaker 2: of the best because you have that passion. I think
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  Speaker 2: when people start off and, you know, they don't really
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  Speaker 2: love it. I mean, I played with players that didn't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that they really truly love the game.
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  Speaker 3: They love to compete.
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  Speaker 2: They love to maybe play in world cups and Olympics,
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  Speaker 2: but I found the love with the ball at my foot,
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  Speaker 2: you know, working on things that I could get better
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  Speaker 2: at and, Yeah, that drove me to want to be
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  Speaker 2: at my best.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like the other bits.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like the political games that you had to
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  Speaker 2: sometimes play and, you know, smiling when maybe you don't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily agree with what's going on or taking criticism from
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  Speaker 2: a coach that, you know, quite frankly, maybe just really
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  Speaker 2: doesn't like you and it's a personal thing rather than
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  Speaker 2: how you are performing as a player. There's just so much,
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  Speaker 2: but there's nothing better than the game and playing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's ultimately the best.
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  Speaker 1: It's so interesting because I, of course, played sports growing up.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, I love competition, but I think I was
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  Speaker 1: very early aware. I was a good athlete, but I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a great athlete. I wasn't playing on the national
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  Speaker 1: team for any sport. But I was good. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: I played lacrosse in college, but I wasn't the starter.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't the best. And I did start to shift
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  Speaker 1: my mindset, probably in college, to a point where I
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  Speaker 1: did really want to focus on broadcasting because I kind
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  Speaker 1: of knew. It kind of ends after this, this four years.
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  Speaker 1: I loved the experience, but I still will never forget.
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  Speaker 1: I had to leave practice early on Wednesdays to go
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  Speaker 1: to broadcasting class, or we filmed a BU Terrier Nation broadcast.
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  Speaker 3: Sports show. And I pulled up the clips lately or recently.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I was killing it. Oh, they're so bad.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I was so good. So good. I think
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  Speaker 3: I have one to send you. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Even some of my early interviews, I'm like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: It's terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I was so confident. And I remember telling my coach,
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  Speaker 1: I have to leave early. And I got some negative
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  Speaker 1: pushback from her and from My teammates. And I don't even, like,
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  Speaker 1: I get that. I get both sides of it. But ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is literally the one class and
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  Speaker 1: the one experience I need. And I think I left
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  Speaker 1: 15 minutes early on Wednesday. And I guarantee if Carly
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  Speaker 1: was my teammate, she probably wouldn't have loved that. Like,
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  Speaker 1: leaving early for broadcasting class.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely would have been judging. Exactly. She doesn't care enough.
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  Speaker 3: You would not have been a fan. You would not
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  Speaker 3: have been a fan. Oh, that's so funny.
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  Speaker 1: But I was, like, adamant that I was, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of had to convince my coach and I'm sure there
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  Speaker 1: was judgment, but at the end of the day, like
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  Speaker 1: I do love the competition of what we do.
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  Speaker 3: You don't see that side.
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  Speaker 1: I think I internalize a lot of the competition, but
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  Speaker 1: I am very competitive and I always truly believed that
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  Speaker 1: I would want to be doing this and would do
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  Speaker 1: whatever it takes.
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  Speaker 3: I love when we just say it.
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  Speaker 2: Love it.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever it takes.
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  Speaker 1: I truly believed it, right? Like I'll do whatever it
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  Speaker 1: takes to be in front of the camera all day.
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  Speaker 1: take the crazy job.
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  Speaker 3: I'll volunteer. You know, I don't care what money I'll make.
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  Speaker 3: I'll do it for free. I did a lot of
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  Speaker 3: that at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, that's nowadays, it's hard to tell kids
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  Speaker 1: to go do that, but you kind of have to
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  Speaker 1: pay your dues in this world.
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  Speaker 3: So I did.
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  Speaker 1: just love sport and knew I wanted to be around
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  Speaker 1: it and then have this energy to me where I
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  Speaker 1: loved theater and I loved being on stage and it
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  Speaker 1: never made me nervous to be in front of people
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  Speaker 1: in that way. And there was like a performance aspect
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  Speaker 1: to broadcasting that I really enjoyed and the red light
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  Speaker 1: goes on and, you know, it's a rush.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like is it, do you get the joy and
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  Speaker 2: the thrill of it when that light comes on?
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  Speaker 3: A hundred percent. Like, it's so much fun to you.
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  Speaker 3: It's so fun. It's not fun.
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  Speaker 1: I still very much get, like, nervous butterflies, but they're
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  Speaker 1: not nerves in a, you can't do the job. Just
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  Speaker 1: nerves in a, like, high-stake environment. Like, I know you
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  Speaker 1: and I would see each other before the matches at
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  Speaker 1: the World Cup. And do you remember when I would
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  Speaker 1: walk to the middle of the pitch and I would
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  Speaker 1: do a report with the players behind me? That was new,
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  Speaker 1: this World Cup, right?
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  Speaker 3: And that was... The craziest rush? I can't even describe
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  Speaker 3: it because FIFA is very strict.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, my best friends as my broadcasting partners are
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  Speaker 1: the World Cup.
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  Speaker 3: Because you cannot break a rule.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at one point I had wedge heels on
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  Speaker 1: and wedges were supposed to be allowed. I was not
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: trying to break any rules because the moment you break
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a rule, they'll take that field position away from you
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and there's no going back.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: So they were like, you have to change your shoes.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm changing my shoes right away. And then you
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: basically have three minutes to do that live report. And
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it's our camera. So it's like a Fox camera. And
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: my camera guy, Joe, who's amazing, I cannot give him
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: enough credit because it is like we always say, it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: such a team. So we're escorted to the center circle
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and the players are warming up behind me.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Like, who knows what's happening? I'm trying to do a story.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Let's say I was talking about Ballot.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: So I do a story and I'm trying to hopefully
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: turn and like hopefully get Balow in the shot, but
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I can't control their movements. And you really get one
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: shot to do this.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could potentially get hit with a ball too, right? 100%.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I have gotten pretty close. I should give my producer
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Ryan Dougherty a little credit.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like he shielded me in the past because
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it's definitely like you're risking it all for the shot.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And it looks cool on TV, but then you have
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: no idea the crazy stress of just getting out there
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: You know, of course, delivering your report and hoping that
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the camera works and the audio works and you're not
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: getting hit by a ball and.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: You just go for it. So there's a lot to the.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Energy of a red light going on that I really enjoy,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that I definitely thrive off of. But it has that
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: competitive edge to it, which I still feel very much
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: connected to sport in that way.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: And that makes sense. Are you getting these three minute hits?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I don't want to embarrass you, but are you getting
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: them in one hit?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. One take. Of course. Maybe two.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: But most of the time, the first one was good.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Let's just do it again. And if Balo's a little
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: bit better in the shot, we'll just try again. Because
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I can't function as if it's not live. It's really
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: hard for me because the more I found, and I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: tell reporters this too, you don't want to memorize things
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: word for word anyway because that's when you start to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: screw up. If you memorize stories with bullet points... For me,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: it's more conversational. So I have a report, right, that
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I write all my reports myself. I definitely use my
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: producer's feedback on like, do you like starting with this
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: or do you like ending with this? But I also
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: write everything because I also feel like if you don't
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: write your own content, it's never going to come out
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: very well. It sounds like you're reading someone else's work
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and then you might even stumble more. It's rare that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I'm doing multiple takes.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Just like it's never as good.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: The moment you start to overthink it and you're reshooting,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and first of all, you can't do more than two
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and three minutes anyway, but the moment you start to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: go into more and more and more, it's just going
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: to sound worse.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You just got to pretend you're live.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm kind of the same. I mean, what
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: you do and Tom Rinaldi and all these other sideline reporters,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to me, I feel like that's the hardest thing to do.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: One of the hardest things to do. Studio, you're up
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: at the desk. I got my little bullet points. You
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: can just kind of talk freely. But yeah, props to you.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: That's pretty incredible.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: All right. Well, that's really, I appreciate it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It's going to be fun to get back into football
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: season soon and have a different.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Rush of crazy noise and the thrill of that. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I love it. Chasing coaches on the field. Just, that's
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: my job. It's my next gig. Speaking of Tom Rinaldi,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: we're going to have to get Tom Rinaldi on the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: pot too. I know. That would be great. He is
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: so good. Storytelling. And you know what he's so cool about?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: He would always, throughout the World Cup, I'll give him
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: a little love because I know we have to go
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to break, but he would always text me and just
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was so encouraging.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Like, what a report. Great question.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: You know, keep doing you. Like, let your personality shine. Like,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: could not have been a more supportive teammate. And when
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Tom Rinaldi tells you good job, like it means something.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm just so, I love that. He's been great
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to learn from.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Agreed. Yeah, he's been super gracious to me too. And
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: then you look at all the awards he's won. All right. Well,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: we're going to get Tom Rinaldi on the pod. We're
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: going to do a quick break and we have so
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: much more to get into after this.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Whatever It Takes with Carly Lloyd and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Jenny Taft. Carly, I have a funny story to tell you.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure why I was Googling you, which
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: does seem a little weird to say that out loud.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But something came, like, I don't know what I was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: looking at. I might have been looking up just all
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the accomplishments, something. And a clip of you popped up from,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of course, the time when I was covering you, where
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you kind of gave a little edge, a little sass
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: back to a reporter who, you know, was a hometown
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: reporter and you called him out for saying, oh, I'm
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: not making the team. And I just, it was so
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: interesting because I've now, I know you so well as
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: this Carly who I'm working with and you have this,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: like we.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Always said throughout the World Cup, like I'm just going
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: with the flow.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But there was a version of you that had that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: edge that I love about you, but also just as
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the weight of the expectations grew for you. I would
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: just love your take on like that part of your
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: personality and how you channeled that, but also, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: thrived under the high pressure of the expectation to have success.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Do you know the video I'm talking about?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I do. I know the reporter. I'm not going to
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: mention any names, but.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Give them a lot of credit. You know, we kind
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: of worked things out and everything is all good. But,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I think for me, there was not a
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: lot of expectation, to be quite honest, when I first
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: got on the national team. I was not this young,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: emerging star. You know, I was 23-ish, getting on the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: national team, a late bloomer. I think people knew that
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I had this talent and I had this unique ability
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to do things that other players couldn't, but I wasn't fit.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't have the right training habits or the right mindset.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I wasn't a professional. There's Brian in the back, the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: background there.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I think he knows that he's... Side note, we were
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: joking before we recorded that Brian and Matt have said
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: they will not be joining the pod. So there's our Brian. Yeah,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: he kind of did something to his knee on the beach.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh my gosh, we.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Were dragging Harper in this veer wagon that we have,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: which is unbelievable.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I've seen those. Yeah, I guess Harper's up now.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, hey, we're... We're live on the pod and
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: this is just an ebb and flow of everything. But
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: back to my thought, which I kind of remember, I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: think for me, my whole life, and even my parents
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: have said it, you know, I was always somebody that
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: wanted to prove people wrong. And I don't really know
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: where that came from. I don't know if it was
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: in the Jersey water, being close to Philadelphia, kind of
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that blue collar mentality. And as a kid, if I
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: couldn't figure out how to do something, like throw a
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: spiral of a football, I would do it until I
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: could figure it out. And that was just in my nature.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: And then that just continued to translate on throughout my
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: career and my journey. But I felt like when I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: got on the national team, I had to prove my worth.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: And I wasn't going to kiss up to anybody necessarily.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I wasn't going.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: To, you know, follow the crowd and do things that
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: weren't authentic to me. I wanted my play to do
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the talking. And so, yeah, I just, I didn't feel
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: fully appreciated. I just always felt like I had to
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: prove my worth. Even after scoring the game-winning goal early
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: on in my career in the 2008 Olympics, which we
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: won 1-0 to Brazil. You know, and I still didn't
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: feel appreciated by U.S. soccer or the media or the
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: fan base. And it wasn't as big back then. But,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: you know, and I think that just drove me. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: think it was sort of the Michael Jordan way of being, right?
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Just always trying to strive for more. I believed in
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: doing the right things the right way and good things
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: would come. And, you know, I would just get tired
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: of the media just scrutinizing me all the time. Like
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: it just, sometimes it just didn't feel fair. And I
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: know that now that I'm in the media world, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: alongside of you and others, like you have to tread
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that fine line. Um, you know, and I get that,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: but I, you know, sometimes I just was like, man,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you guys really don't know. You don't see me at
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: training every day and you just think that I'm old
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and that I shouldn't be, you know, on the team and,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and all these different things. Um, But you know what,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that drove me and that drove the trajectory of my career.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be the player in person that I
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: was without that. You know, nothing was handed to me.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: And in the end, walking off the field for the U.S.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: national team was one of my greatest rewards because Harper is, yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: apologies for our listeners here. She is ready for her.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what was going on up there. But yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the ending was the reward, the journey. And you know me,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I don't need to be like pumped up or, you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: patted on the back. But I just wanted to be
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: appreciated for what I did and how I went about
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: my career.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And that happened in the end. So you do feel
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: like that it did ultimately happen.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: The respect. 100%. And the reporters, yeah. Yeah. I thought
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: you'd say that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: That was the long game approach for me. It took
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: a while for me to... 2015 World Cup was my big,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: big moment on the biggest stage, which then everybody knew
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: about me. And I'm like, yeah, I've been on the
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: team for 10 years. Prior to this, I've scored some
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: winning goals in 2008 Olympics, 2012. And 2015, again, we
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: talk about the expectation. Then... you know, score a hat
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: trick in the World Cup final, and then everybody expects that.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And then there's more scrutiny that comes with that. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: if you're not playing at that level that you need
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: to be playing at, people are dragging you down.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, that reporter, that was sort of at
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: the end of my career. And I was just.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: So tired of the rhetoric, you know. So, yeah, I mean,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: that was it in a nutshell. But, you know, like
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I said, The end was everything for me. It was
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: my greatest reward.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: That's, well, not to bring up an old story, but
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I just, I think it was because it was this
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: side of you that, like, I was around you as
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a player, but it's been a while, right? Like, since
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I've seen that, like, edge and that competitiveness that, because
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you are just, the way you've approached this stage of
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: life as a broadcaster and mom, and like your priorities
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: are just different. And I love seeing both sides of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you that I so respect. Is there a level to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the burnout and the sign of like, when did you
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: know it was time to be done? That's actually, I
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever asked you that. Like, when
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: did it feel like, all right, like I'm good here.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: You know, it's.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Kind of, It's that, that's an interesting thing. And I mean, you're,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: you're still in it. Like you still do this all
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the time, but you do change sport.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: True.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Which I think is, is probably helpful. I think it is. Yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I had always envisioned going through four cycles, like everything
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: in the USA. national team is through cycles. So, every
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: four years, World Cup. Every four years, Olympics. And once
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I got to the fourth and final cycle, obviously, Tokyo
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: was pushed.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: From 2020 to 2021. And just the way that the
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: teams where we were, it just, it was time.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And it was just time to, you know, kind of
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: live my life and do all the things that I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: wanted to do. And I don't know if you're the
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: same way, because I want to hear what you think about,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: you know, this, the weight of expectations and burnout and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: all that. But I feel like we're both very similar
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: where we just, we will go, go, go, go, go.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: And I had to learn you know, a couple of times,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: like the hard way, like I can't, I can't keep
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: doing this for such a long period of time and
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: not give myself breaks and not allow myself to just
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: take a beat. It was really hard for me in
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: off seasons. I had to force myself for like a
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks to not run, to not do anything
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: because the thought of getting out of shape and then
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: having to get back into shape, I'm like, I dread this.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: But as my career went on, I learned that It's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: very important.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: And that's when I just started to take some days off.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: And, you know, I think it was crucial in kind
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: of having given me the longevity throughout my career. But TV,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you know, for you, like TV is different. Do you
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: think you put more of the expectation of your ability
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: on yourself or Is that coming from Fox?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: You know, I think the expectation, it's kind of, there's
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a lot to it. I mean, I always truly believed
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and had a confidence I'd be doing this, right? I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: think that there's like the athlete mindset of like, if
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you work hard at this and believe it, you can
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: do it, right?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I believed it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I always wanted to do this. But you also have
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to have a confidence that you're not going to be
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: everyone's cup of tea. I have this crazy story that
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I remember from when I first got hired at Fox.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: And it was such a cool time.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And that whole audition, and I think we talked a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: little bit about it on a different pod, but FS1
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: was launching, so they're hiring all these people, and it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: brand new, and a lot of different opinions on who
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: should be where and who should cover what. And there
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: was one boss at Fox who's no longer there, so
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: it's fine.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I'm still there. It's a good sign. See, that's the
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: version of me that's like, Well, I'm there still. Exactly.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Who had me in their office. I'm not kidding. This
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: is what he said. He was like, do you watch
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: The Voice? I was like, oh, no. I mean, kind of.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: It was new at the time, so it's been a while.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, I've heard of this show. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: he's like, well, here's the thing. You don't make me
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: turn my chair.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, wow.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: That was the first time where it also kind of
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: hit me that this is like, this is the real deal.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Like you work at a network and you, you can't
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: make mistakes and you have to be at the top
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: of your game and hey, good, good thing I'm still there.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: But it was also a kind of a weird, in
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a good way, reminder that you just, you can't stop
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: working hard. And, you know, you're only as good as
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: your last time on TV.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: You're only as good as the last time you've been,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: you're on the field in a lot of ways, right?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Like I truly feel that, right? If I go on
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: what do I have week one? North Texas and Indiana.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: If I screw up September 5th, like.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Who knows, right?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Like you just, you have to have the confidence that
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you are able to do the job and confidence that
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you are there for a reason. You're not going to
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: be everyone's first choice.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: That's okay.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I can be someone's and I can also have a
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: style that's different than others.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: So I just, I remember that so vividly that it's
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: a competitive world, but that's kind of where the sport background,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I think, in my life helped me.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Like, I can work hard and I can be good
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: at this. So the expectation... But I would imagine.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: It's easier to maybe not have a great performance as
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: an athlete on a team sport or make a mistake...
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: That's true. than on live TV, right? Which is kind
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: of odd because I loved... I mostly played team sports
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: for that reason.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Like, I was a decent tennis player, but there was
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a level of me that just didn't love the individual
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: mindset of tennis, yet as a sideline reporter, I'm the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: only person I'm relying on is myself.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: That's not entirely true.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Of course, I'm relying on the whole broadcast team, but
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: those 30-second reports where I'm adding into a game are
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: just really me. You're not really relying on anyone but yourself.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: So that is kind of individual in a lot of ways.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: So the expectation is always going to be to be
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the best at you know, whatever I can do. Like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I think this comes across, like, I try to help
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: other college kids who want to get into this. Like,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: there's also room for a lot of us. It doesn't mean, like,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I can be the only sideline reporter who's out there. Like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: there can be many of us. We can work together. Like,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: we mentioned Tom Rinaldi. Tom Rinaldi and I are very different. Like,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: we can coexist and be great teammates and offer something
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: totally different to a broadcast as sideline reporters. That's why
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: it's fun to have him around. I think it's fun
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to split sidelines because then I can only focus on
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And I actually like having that freedom to just really
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: be focusing on one team and not two.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: So anyways, there's a lot to the expectation.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: So in the evolution of TV, like for me as
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: a player, you know, I always tried to evolve my play.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't stay the same player, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: for the earlier years. And as I got older, I
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: definitely had to change that. But for TV... I mean,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I'm still a rookie on TV and just do my
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: bits here and there. What is that evolution of Jenny
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Taft continuing to get better and pushing on and, you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: making yourself better?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: What does that look like? That's a great question. It
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: really is interesting.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Like I mentioned the clips from college, thinking I was
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: just ready to go and how much I've improved even
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: from like the early FS1 days or my voice has
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: almost evolved in a way. I had a higher pitched
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: tone to my voice, which I think just naturally changed
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: as I got more confident. I used to smile a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: lot too. Another Fox colleague at the time, who I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: really appreciated feedback from, she was.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Like, you smile too much.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And I know you're a happy person, but I would
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: do it as like a crutch. So I'd be like,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: right before a report, I would just be like, Just
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: smiling so, so big, like, because that was my nervous energy.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm excited, ready to go. And I still smile.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: That's my delivery, but there's a level of, like, you
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: just grin.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: So it's so interesting, like, little things like that that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I've gotten better at. But I am so grateful that
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I'm on the best college crew at Fox. And, like,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I don't take that for granted. I know that that's
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a job a lot of people would want. I love
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: working on Big Noon Saturdays. I would love one day
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to be a part of the NFL in some way, right?
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Like even if I could add some games to my resume,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, like the.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: NFL is still king, right?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: At Fox, like it'd be really cool to be a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: part of that in some way, somehow. I've covered a
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: couple NFL games and it's the same, right? Same game, different,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: but it's just a different energy to cover the NFL.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: And just getting better at hosting. I mean, that's something
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I'm always working on, new sports. There's nothing I won't cover.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've kind of, I've hit it all.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I've hit a lot of sports. It keeps you fresh.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: And the burnout, I mean, you travel, you're away from home.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: You know me.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I love it, though, and I do love what I'm doing. Like,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I've got my suitcase right here, ready to go, ready
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: for college football season. Like, I've already started packing. When
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: do you leave for college football? Do you leave Thursday, Friday?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Thursdays, I normally try to, if I can drop JG
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: at school on Thursday, I like to see her in
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the morning before I leave. I think that just, I
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: can tell her when I'm going to be back. It's just,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I like to, I don't like to leave before she's awake.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I found that as she's gotten older, I wonder if
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that'll be something for you and Harper as she gets older.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: But when I just leave, I'm gone in the morning,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: that's hard for her, unless we've really talked about it.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: So I try to take her to school, get on
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a flight Thursday. Sometimes I can't do that if I'm
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: going to practice. So teams are 50-50 on if we're
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: allowed to attend practice, and if we even want to.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: We don't always have to attend practice, but like Indiana
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: week one, I'm going to go to practice. I love
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: to see Coach Cignetti, and of course, week one, that's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: important to do. So go in Thursday, practice sometimes. During
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the week, I've talked to players and coaches. All week
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: at various times. That's the harder part. Just talking to them,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: of course, at their convenience. So at times you're chatting
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: late night. You never know when players are free. So
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: maybe five to 10 players total each week. 10, definitely
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: the max. And then all day Friday, it's just meet
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: with the home team coaches, production meeting. Maybe we're doing
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a tape segment for the big noon show.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Just it's busy.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Fridays are nonstop. And then we have another production meeting
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: at night where we go over everything. We sit As
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a group of our 25 crew, like core crew, producer, director,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: sideline producer, everyone, we do those meetings, similar. And we
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: just go over everything, all the graphics, every element that
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: may be used in the broadcast. And then we're up
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: at like 5.30. on Saturday, normally, because it's a noon game.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: We leave early.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Football's long. Games are long. They're long. And then we
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: are rushing to that first flight. It is a game.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Joel Klatt and I play every Saturday. It's a dangerous game.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: You can get on the earliest flight. Normally, it's like 5.00.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Which at 5.30, it's tight. Like we are, we literally
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: rush out of the stadium. And if there's a police escort,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: it's a great day. Some schools are better than others.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: So then I get home by midnight normally, but I'm
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: home on a Saturday. So it's all worth it. So yeah,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a little burnout, but like, I love it. I even
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: said to my husband, I was like, we're talking about
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: burnout a little bit today. He's like, yeah, but you
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: love what you do. And I think that's the thing
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: where I'll keep going because I love this.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: So much. It's not really a job when you like
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: it so much. Well, we don't want to burn out,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: so we're going to take a little break, as we need.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Do you need a breath break? I think you.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Need to make sure she's okay. They went silent. I
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: don't know if he drug her outside or what, but...
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Quick check-in. All right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back. All right. We'll be right back. Yep. Carly,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: welcome back, everyone. Thank you for listening to us.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: When I say to you, what does playing the long
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: game mean? How has that impacted your career, your mindset?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: What comes to mind?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: It's a great question because I think so many people,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: we as humans really just want that quick instant success, right?
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, what is.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: The easiest diet to do where you can lose a
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: bunch of pounds in a short amount of time, you know, and,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: and that really, that really doesn't work. Um, the way
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: that I approached my career was, it was the long
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: game approach. And I knew that if I did the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: right things and that meant being consistent in everything that
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I did, uh, there was no, there was no room
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: to half do these things.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Um, I had to sleep well. I had to eat well.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I had to be diligent about my recovery, find those
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: recovery strategies that worked for me.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: And I had to train consistently.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: So all of those things, time and time again, just
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: allowed me to constantly keep pushing and get better. And
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the more fit I became, the more I would push on.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: But I think it's just so important because, and it
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: was really hard for me. Honestly, it was really hard because,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: like I said, I was on the national team in 2005.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: The world, I mean, the big stage of 2015 World
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Cup for me was 10 years later after I had started.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And I finally felt like everything had been paying off.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Like it took that long. 10 years, yeah. I mean,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't have a lot of endorsements.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I was with Nike, maybe got a thing here or two,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: had maybe a couple speaking engagements.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't much. So my life changed in that moment. And....
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think it's, and then from that moment
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: on until the end of my career, it was still
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the same things. You know, nothing had changed. I just,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: because of that success, I wanted even more. And so
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I was just obsessed with improving. I was diligent and
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: consistent with all of those different things. But it is
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: hard to stay like patient and, you know, wait. And
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: maybe see other people, like I'm sure you know, in
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the field where they're, you know, getting the spotlight and
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: you're like, man, you know, like, when's that going to
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: happen for me? And you just have to stay patient.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: You have to just kind of stay true to what
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: you believe. And we've talked about it before, you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: treating people right and doing all the right things, being respectful.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: All of that plays a role in what you get.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Within your career and your life. And I'm a big
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: believer in that.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if the same applies to
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: you or, you know, how you went about your career.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've talked about, you know, your interviews early
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: on and how they've evolved. But have you played the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: long game approach?
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: You know, it's weird because this didn't come to mind
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: when I was picturing this conversation.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: But....
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: When I got to FS1, so when I first moved
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to LA, they hired me as a reporter, desk reporter.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: There was this thing called three things you need to know.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: So it was so long ago in the network. This
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: obviously ended a long time ago, maybe 10 years ago.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And we would come on air for 30 seconds and say,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm Jenny Taft. You're watching FS1 and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: here are three things you need to know. So that's
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: really what they hired me to do. That was like,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I do these 30 second live hits twice an hour.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: We'd have... like six-hour shifts. It was really crazy, but
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who are still working, you know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: in our world, it was me, it was Julie Swierbinks,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: it was Molly McGrath, it was Ryan Field, Mike Hill,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: all of these reporters are still working, right? And so
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: we're all hired to do this. But, you know, they
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: had other opportunities when they got to FS1 too, and
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't really. I was kind of hired a month
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: after everyone because they realized they needed more people. And
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: so early on in my FS1 days, they came to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: me and said, like, how do you feel about motorcycle racing?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Do you know anything about this? And I kind of lied.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: It wasn't really a lie because I knew a little bit.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I knew Ricky Carmichael was the GOAT. And I weirdly
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: knew that because my brother was into moto and had
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: a random poster. I did not know anything else about moto.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: But they said, we need a reporter to cover this.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I remember feeling like some people were like, oh, she's
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: going to cover motorcycle racing. But in my head, it
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: was the long game. It was like, I don't care
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: what I'm being asked to do at Fox. I'm going
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: to go get some reps and I'm going to cover
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: motorcycle racing and I'm going to learn it and love
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: it and embrace it. It was the best thing that
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: ever happened to me by far as a reporter because
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: we would do these races.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: And one, I did learn it. And I love it.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I still watch it. I'm still on social media.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I have like so much fun with Supercross fans because
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: they're like, we miss you.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I loved it too.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I think it was in Boston two years ago and
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I actually went with Matt and we saw some of
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the riders and like some of the crew and the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: mechanics and like this amazing chiropractor that I got really
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: close with. And just like Ricky Carmichael, who I mentioned,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: who's a broadcaster for the racing.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Anyways, I learned it. I embraced it.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, if I can be a good reporter
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: at this, I can be a good reporter at anything.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: And so that was my long game. Like, just go
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: get the reps, three-hour races. They would come to me
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: all the time for reports. So in a football game,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you might hear from me once a quarter, and that's
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: a good day.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: These were like, now the reps is huge.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Reps, just reps, just racing, go up to riders, you know,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: get their thoughts, just you're literally in the dirt all day.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It was the craziest, best thing because I just learned
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: so much. And I remember right before my first broadcast,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: which we kind of mentioned at the beginning of this,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: like being so, so nervous and thinking if I can
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: do this, like I can do, I can do this
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: because I don't know this sport that well. And I,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: it took me a couple of weeks to win them over. Like, Oh, she's,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: she can like tell stories. And that's, you know, I
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: think I told you this, like it was someone at
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Fox who was setting up the women's world cup.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: They'd see me in supercross. It was like, The long game.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Just get your reps. I don't care where you get them.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I always tell people like go be an in arena host.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I did that too. Like just go practice. And now
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: just set up a camera and practice all on your own.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: So I just so appreciate like those moments when I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: remember thinking like some people are judging me for this
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and it was by far the best thing that ever
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: happened to my career.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: And, you know, you just never know.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very interesting because the reps, as you talk about,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: are massive. And I mean, I hated public speaking. I
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: was not good at it. And early on in my career,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I did these small little speaking engagements and I had
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: to get up in front of people.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: And I mean, I dread it. I absolutely dread it.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: But then doing interviews, you know, talking to you, talking
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: to others, doing press conferences, like all of those reps
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: because of all of that. And what I would do
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: with every interview that I had throughout my career and
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: obviously every speaking engagement that I had and the opportunity
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: is I would prep and I would go and I
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: would do it.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: But I would prep for my interviews. Like I prepped,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I always asked for questions.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't to, you know, just make sure, I mean,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit of it, you want to make sure
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: that the questions are, you know, they're asking the right
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: things and you don't want hot topics and all those things.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: But I would demand the questions so that I could
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: start formulating my thoughts in my head. And I would
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: sort of take a day or two to kind of
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: rehearse those And then when I would go and do
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: the interview, you know, I just got more and more comfortable.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: And now, post-career, I mean, I've made a career of
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: speaking engagements. I go out and I get paid to speak.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: And now I'm in this TV space. And it's only
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: because of what I did during my career. I mean,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't really have any media training, of course. people
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: at Fox have helped and chimed in and given me.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: The little tidbits of what I could do.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I've learned from everybody I've worked with as well. So
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: it's just kind of interesting how, yeah, that just kind
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: of all comes to play.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: It seems natural though to you.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Like it just seems, I think watching you on TV,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: it looks like you've been doing it always. And I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: guess I got to know you in 2015, but you
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: were always such a great interviewer.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: You were thoughtful. you were not long winded. You were
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: like a great interview. Well, I appreciate that.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I, I, I think it also helps
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: to just be authentic. It's, you know, I'm, I'm not,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be somebody different. You know, I'm,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of approaching things the way that, um,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: we're just speaking here, you know, I, but I'm speaking
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: on air and, and I'm, I'm saying what I want
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I've always just, wanted to be somebody that if I'm
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: going to speak it, you know, it, it's going to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: mean something.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: It's not just fluff or just speaking to speak. yeah.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Did you ever think about coaching? No, not really. I
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: know that a lot of people in the, the soccer
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: world are, are wanting more and more women, women to
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: get into coaching.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I just don't, it's so nice to be out of
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: the pressure and, being in it for so long was,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: it's a lot. And I know that I'm, you know,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: the TV world, yes, that is pressure. It's different pressure.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, coaching, the pressure, you got to get the licenses,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: you're busy.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: You're busy, more busier than a player. So for sure.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: For me, the TV keeps me in and around the game,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: being able to work. these month-long tournaments, you know, has
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: been something that's been good. But, yeah, I don't really
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: have a passion for coaching. Now, people, like, ask me,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: you know, be Harper's coach?
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I mean, I don't know. That's a
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: great point. That would be really hard. I don't think
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: anyone's going to let me coach anyone around Gigi at
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: this point. No, not after the dentist visit.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Gigi's still too young to feel, I mean, we're going
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: to soccer, but it's mostly, like, organized freeze tag at
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: this point, so.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I think it would be, yeah, it's going to be
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: probably difficult. I think what's going to be the most
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: challenging thing is letting Harper and this new baby that's
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: coming along just be, but if they're not working hard
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: and kind of being respectful and doing those things, like,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Those are kind of non-negotiables. I know. I think that's
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: going to be the challenging bit. It's not really about
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: how they'll be as athletes or performing, but yeah, the
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: work ethic thing is going to be hard.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Well, and it's like my parents, the one thing they
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: were so adamant with me about, it was if you
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: sign up for something, like you're finishing it out. There
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: was no, you're not quitting early. You're not finished. Like,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember the sport. I pretty much played
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: everything growing up, but like, you don't, stop playing anything
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: like and if you're signed up you go to practice
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: like you're never quitting and that was so ingrained in
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: me and I see that in such a different way
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: now with with kids and sports and being forced into
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: things and it had to be my my terms like
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I was the one who wanted to do it and
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: it was self-driven in a lot of ways so is
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: there anything else passion-wise that you are still thinking about
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I mean I know this podcast is kind of a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: new passion and fun project for both of us but
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: anything else that you're like you know what one day
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I know you're pretty busy and It's a good question.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Because it's so crazy. Honestly, like TV was not on
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: my radar. Even podcasting. I'm like, who wants to podcast?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: But here we are. I'm doing like two things. I
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: was so happy when you were like, maybe.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about it so long ago, casually
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: at a, maybe at the seminar, one of the World
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Cup seminars.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Like, would you maybe want to do this with me?
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Because I.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I just wasn't going to do it with anyone that
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a great relationship with.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad we're able to do it together. But
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: I was always worried. I'm like, does she really want
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: to do this? No, yeah, no, definitely.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: And I think what I love about what we're doing
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: is it's not just soccer. It's not just sports.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: We can talk about life stuff.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: And that's how I like to kind of talk with people,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: just a whole variety of different things and just learn
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: about different things. aspects of life and people and how
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: they approach things. So, but yeah, passions. I'm not, I'm
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: not really sure. I mean, who knows what's going to
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: come down the pipeline. I mean, I want to continue
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: to do TV. I think that that's, you know, something
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: that I still like to do. So hopefully those opportunities
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: keep coming, but yeah, I don't know. How about you?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Do you have any little side hustles going on? I mean,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you bring up a good point about fashion too with, yeah, well, Actually, yes.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: What I was going to say about the TV thing
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: that I think some people don't realize, you know, we
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: always say, you know, you're only good as your last performance,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: but we also have contracts, right? Like there's no stability
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: in really what we do, which is a hard thing
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: about television, which, you know, again, like I love, love,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: love what I'm doing when I don't want to do
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: anything else.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I don't care working on weekends.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Miss weddings. Don't worry about it.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not coming if it's in the fall and that's okay.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: But you know, there's no stability, right? Like we all
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: have contracts and you sign contracts. And I know a
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: lot of people that we work with, like a lot
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: of their contracts were up until or through the World Cup.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: So people are making choices and, you know, trying to resign.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of fear in that part of
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: this job, which is, I think, the hardest part about
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: television in a lot of ways. You just got to
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: have that confidence. But passion-wise, I'm excited to share with you.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I've been working on a sock company.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? A sock brand. Yep. Unity Road. It's going
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: to come out soon. Socks. You will be first to
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: get those socks, Carly.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Are you just been uber passionate about socks or what
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: make these socks so special?
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: It's very random, but both my friend and I, Kim,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: so she really started the idea and I kind of
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: came on with enjoying fashion and having like a little
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: bit of space in the sports space.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: They're socks. They're athletic socks, but they're going to give back.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: They're fun.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: They're just stylish in a way that are different. I mean,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like socks sound so unsexy, but we're going.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: To make them fun. So I'm going to get you
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: some socks immediately in the mail. It's so in the works.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I am really excited.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe some are going to have grippies.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Well, so that's an idea. That's going to be maybe
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: a next option. down the line launch because that's a
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: space but we don't want to like only do grip
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: socks that just takes out a whole audience right now
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: they're unisex there's a lot to socks so.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Okay well we're in my office closet like going there
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: yeah we're honestly launching pretty soon we're gonna we're working
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: on social media I mean as if any of us
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: have more time to do anything but The biggest thing
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: is it's just fun and different to kind of have
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: a creative eye in a space that obviously is unique.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: But hey, everyone needs socks, right? It's like fun. Well,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: that's awesome.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Well, if you get some grippy socks and it's for
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: my delivery date, maybe I can wear them, you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: wear them in when I'm delivering the baby.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Either way, I'm going to make some for you. Just
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: make sure we have them for then.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, I got a timeline. Okay, there you go. We're
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: gonna work on the socks.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: So Carly and I are still figuring out what we
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: want this podcast to be. Yes, it's going to discuss soccer,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: but so, so much more family life and mom life and,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: you know, advice. And we'll have fun guests, hopefully. So
• 57:50
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• 57:54
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• 57:55
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• 57:59
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• 57:59
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• 58:02
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• 58:05
  Speaker 1: who you are and your passions. What do you love?
• 58:09
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• 58:12
  Speaker 1: So thanks for listening to Whatever It Takes.
• 58:14
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