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Credlin | 27 August · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on Skynings Australia. Good evening, Welcome to
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Speaker 1: the show, Steve Price, with you sitting in for Peter.
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Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight on Kredlin. Latest on the
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Speaker 1: murderous execution of two Victorian police officers and the search
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Speaker 1: for the alleged killer, Desi Freeman. It continues late on
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Speaker 1: the second day in appalling conditions. Will take you live
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Speaker 1: to the scene and be joined by veteran police detective
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Speaker 1: Charlie Zina on the hazards of the police job right
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Speaker 1: round Australia. Another twist in the Brittney Higgins saga, with
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Speaker 1: her former boss and former Senator Linda Reynolds winning a
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Speaker 1: defamation case against Higgins and her husband David Shiraz in
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Speaker 1: a Perth court. Today. Greg Sheridan joins us on the
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Speaker 1: fallout from stunning revelations from AZO that Iran was behind
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Speaker 1: at least two dangerous attacks on a Melbourne synagogue and
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Speaker 1: Sidney Jewish food business, using the Islamic Islamic Revolutionary Guard
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Speaker 1: Corps to third party on contract to do their dirty work.
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Speaker 1: Plus where does the phrase think as two bricks come
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Speaker 1: from kel Richards? Will let us know in his regular
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Speaker 1: Wednesday spot. First though the unhinged execution yesterday morning of
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Speaker 1: two Victoria police officers simply acting on orders to execute
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Speaker 1: a search warrant on the remote, poor Punker property of
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Speaker 1: alleged killer and so called sovereign citizen Desi Bird Freeman.
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Speaker 1: We will cross to our reporter Harry Clark on the
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Speaker 1: scene shortly, but as we go to air, a massive
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Speaker 1: air and Bush search for Freeman has not turned him up,
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Speaker 1: with his wife and children turning themselves into a local
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Speaker 1: police station today. According to Police Commissioner Mike Bush.
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Speaker 2: We have met with and spoken with the suspects partner
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Speaker 2: and children to ensure that they are safe.
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Speaker 1: More detail about the mental state of Freeman is revealed
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Speaker 1: by locals who describe him as unhinged, a conspiracy theorist
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Speaker 1: to refer to in the past police as Nazis, Gestapo
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Speaker 1: and corrupt filth. This appears all to be part of
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Speaker 1: this so called sovereign citizen movement that gained some traction
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Speaker 1: here during and after the COVID lockdowns. Sovereign citizens believe
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Speaker 1: the laws we all abide by don't apply to them,
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Speaker 1: and parliaments are a collection of corrupt corporations. It's all crazy, mad,
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Speaker 1: unhinged stuff, but now it's deadly nonsense. Freeman has not
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Speaker 1: only abused police previously, but court officials and in recent
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Speaker 1: times spooped locals with his erratic behavior. Sadly, I have
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Speaker 1: had to report over the years on far too many
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Speaker 1: police killings and it's something the force and the public
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Speaker 1: struggle to accept that anyone could point a weapon at
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Speaker 1: a uniformed or plane clothed police officer and pull the trigger.
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Speaker 1: Freeman is alleged to have used a shotgun in what
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Speaker 1: other witnesses described as an execution style shooting that seriously
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Speaker 1: wounded a third officer, probably lucky to be alive. I
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Speaker 1: well remember, at the height of Melbourne's infamous gangland Wars
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Speaker 1: that dragged police into the middle of a deadly time,
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Speaker 1: two double police murders, one after the other on suburban streets.
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Speaker 1: The first the Wall Street murders in wealthy South Yarra.
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Speaker 1: It was nineteen ninety eight. It was an ambush on
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Speaker 1: that street, a revenge killing that took the lives of
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Speaker 1: Steve Tynan, aged twenty two, and Damien Air twenty after
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Speaker 1: they inspected a stolen vehicle lights on left in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the street as a honey trap for police.
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Speaker 1: They're killers. They struck after hiding in a roadside garden,
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Speaker 1: sparking months of investigations, four arrests, a jury acquittal, and
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Speaker 1: two other suspects shot and killed by police. Then there
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Speaker 1: was the Gary Silk and Rodney Miller murders ten years
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Speaker 1: later on a stakeout investigas investigating a series of armedhold ups.
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Speaker 1: Both those men were executed with handguns after pulling over
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Speaker 1: a suspect vehicle for Victoria police. These two incidents and
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Speaker 1: others remain seared in police folklore, and I'll catch up
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Speaker 1: with retired Detective Charlie Bazina in a sec yesterday's killings
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Speaker 1: would have brought all of those dark memories flooding back,
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Speaker 1: as I understand that the state government has agreed to
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Speaker 1: light a series of public buildings in police blue tonight
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Speaker 1: as a mark of respect. That's a good thing. This
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Speaker 1: was the Premier just Sinda Allen earlier today.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday was such a tragic day for our state and
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Speaker 3: for the Victoria police family, and it is my intention
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Speaker 3: over the course of the day to speak with the
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Speaker 3: families of those fallen officers. The focus since that just
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Speaker 3: tragic event of yesterday has been to ensure that the
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Speaker 3: work has gone into supporting the families.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure the Premier was absolutely genuine in her heartfelt remarks.
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Speaker 1: She made some more late this afternoon and I am
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Speaker 1: sure she will make contact with the grieving families. I
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Speaker 1: would also though, like to remind U Sinto Allen of
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Speaker 1: a couple of other things. Morale, the Victoria police force
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Speaker 1: is at an all time low. Police last year were
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Speaker 1: told to cut their budget by two billion dollars. It
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Speaker 1: gets worse, Premier, You then loosened and then tightened again.
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Speaker 1: Bail laws contributing to a teenage crime spree like Melbourne
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Speaker 1: has never ever seen you look away or your government
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Speaker 1: did you took away? Move on laws told police not
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Speaker 1: to address drunks instead wait for a drunk squad bust
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Speaker 1: to pick them up. You've failed to invest in police equipment.
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Speaker 1: You've failed to crack down on weekly pro Palestinian protests,
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Speaker 1: draining police resources and adding to a massive overtime bill.
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Speaker 1: And have overseen the greatest sick leave list of police
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Speaker 1: in history, with reports that seven hundred more will quit
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Speaker 1: before Christmas. And you have also refused repeated requests for
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Speaker 1: a decent pay rise. I could go on about psychiatric
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Speaker 1: services that have also been cut, but let's concentrate on
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Speaker 1: finding that alleged killer first, are we Let's head to
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Speaker 1: Cameron now for tonight's political update with Sky News Political
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Speaker 1: Report A treaty Macintosh.
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Speaker 5: It's been a day of fallout after the historic decision
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Speaker 5: to expel Iran's ambassador over a series of anti Semitic attacks.
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Speaker 1: Isn't something you do.
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Speaker 6: Lightly.
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Speaker 5: The ambassador spotted leaving the embassy in Canberra. He has
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Speaker 5: just hours to leave the country. Azo on earth Iran's
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Speaker 5: role in directing attacks on a Melbourne synagogue and a
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Speaker 5: Jewish cafe in Sydney, and it believes likely more.
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Speaker 7: They were able to trace essentially the chain of command,
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Speaker 7: if you like, right back to Iran.
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Speaker 5: Iran's Revolutionary Guard will be deemed a terror organization. The
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Speaker 5: coalition argues that should have happened years.
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Speaker 8: Ago, Prime Minister, Why didn't you act sooner when the
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Speaker 8: warnings were so clear and the risks so grave.
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Speaker 7: There are times when the nations should just come together.
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Speaker 3: I would have thought that yesterday was one of those times,
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Speaker 3: and it was a Tipitia hasn't lasted till today, and.
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Speaker 5: Deputy Prime Minister Richard Miles has held a series of
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Speaker 5: high level talks with Trump officials in Washington. It included
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Speaker 5: a meeting with Vice President jd Vance, Defense Secretary Pete
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Speaker 5: Hegseth and the Secretary of State Marco Rubio. They discussed
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Speaker 5: the Orcust Nuclear Powered Submarine Pact ahead of the looming
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Speaker 5: Pentagon Review.
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Speaker 9: This is part of our usual diplomacy of engaging with
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Speaker 9: the United States.
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Speaker 5: At this stage, I think the alban Eazy government has
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Speaker 5: been very flat footed and back home, Australia's inflation has
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Speaker 5: jumped to its highest level in a year. The end
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Speaker 5: of government powerbill rebates have translated to a thirteen percent
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Speaker 5: rise in electricity costs in July. Trudy McIntosh, Sky News, Canberra.
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Speaker 1: Good on your truity.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for that.
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Speaker 1: Now to the ongoing men hunt for cop killer Desi Freeman.
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Speaker 1: We are a day and a half into this difficult
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Speaker 1: and emotional search. Skott News reporter Harry Clark is that
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Speaker 1: the wine business that I think has been used as
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Speaker 1: a stage post for police. Harry, it's now dark, second night,
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Speaker 1: cold wet. Are the police any closer do we know
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Speaker 1: to finding Freeman.
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Speaker 8: Get Steve, Yeah, Sun's will and truly setting now over
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Speaker 8: this alp Prime region, the search is still very much underway.
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Speaker 8: We don't know exactly what's going on over in that
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Speaker 8: densely wooded hills around Mount Buffalo where this search is centered,
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Speaker 8: but certainly for the whole period that I've been here,
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Speaker 8: there's been choppers in the sky and cops going to
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Speaker 8: and from the poor Punker area around Brighton into this,
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Speaker 8: as you say, a winery that's been used as a
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Speaker 8: makeshift forward command post as police respond to this major
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Speaker 8: police operation. There was a bit of a hive of
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Speaker 8: activity this afternoon. There was a convoy of police that
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Speaker 8: left this staging post and multiple choppers put into the air,
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Speaker 8: and then reports of gunshots or two loud bangs in
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Speaker 8: the search vicinity. But from official lines from police, we
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Speaker 8: still don't know exactly what's come of that will of
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Speaker 8: course bring you the latest as it comes to hand,
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Speaker 8: but the latest we do have from police is the
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Speaker 8: identities of the two slain officers, the fifty nine year
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Speaker 8: old detective Leading Sieni Constable Neil Thompson and thirty five
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Speaker 8: year old Sidney Constable Vadim Deva. They're the two police
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Speaker 8: officers killed in the line of duty, gunned down in
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Speaker 8: an execution style killing, just going about their work, carrying
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Speaker 8: out a search warrant on a secluded property which was
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Speaker 8: lived in by this alleged a cop killer.
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Speaker 1: Desi Freeman. Yeah, Harry, I'm going to talk to former
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Speaker 1: detective Charlie Bzener in a moment, but I just wanted
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Speaker 1: to ask you. I Mike Bush, the new commissioner this morning, said, look,
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Speaker 1: our blokes are motivated. We don't care whether it's wet
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Speaker 1: and cold and dark. We're going to find this bloke
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Speaker 1: and we're going to arrest him and bring him to justice.
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Speaker 1: I presume that motivation. You get a sense there that
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Speaker 1: that's still alive. They're still desperate to find this bloke
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Speaker 1: and they're not going to let up till they get him.
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Speaker 8: Very much so please do remarkable work. Obviously, at the
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Speaker 8: best of times and especially at the worst of times,
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Speaker 8: they've lost two of their own, and you'd think that
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Speaker 8: that is really stealing their resolve to bring this man
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Speaker 8: to justice. It's surprising you would think that there has
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Speaker 8: been no result. Yes, yet, as you say, we're going
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Speaker 8: on thirty six hours since this mad then unfolded, and
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Speaker 8: we still don't have this man located. Police are still searching.
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Speaker 8: You can probably hear the Tropic going overhead as we speak.
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Speaker 8: But whether this finishes with a gunfight and police taking
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Speaker 8: this man out, of whether they're able to go in
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Speaker 8: and extract him and arrest him, we just don't know,
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Speaker 8: but you would think it's just a matter of time
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Speaker 8: before this comes to an end.
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Speaker 4: Steve.
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Speaker 1: Are we expecting to hear from police again tonight.
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Speaker 8: We've heard from the Victorian premiere and we're expecting to
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Speaker 8: hear from police, but they The latest from police is
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Speaker 8: that they've identified the two slain officers, Neil Thompson and
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Speaker 8: Vadim Daval.
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Speaker 1: All Right, how if anything comes while we're on air
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Speaker 1: and obviously later during Andrew Bolk, just jump back online
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Speaker 1: for a thank you, Harry Clark. They're doing great job
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Speaker 1: on the ground. From a homicide detective, Charlie Bezina joins us,
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Speaker 1: terrible twenty four hours for police and the families these
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Speaker 1: two victims. I mean, you've been a surviving, a serving
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Speaker 1: senior police officer. How does the wider force handle something
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Speaker 1: like this well?
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Speaker 4: As a matter of the getting together talking about it.
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Speaker 10: They know the risks that are involved every day of
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Speaker 10: the week they're going out there funding these people.
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Speaker 4: It would have put an edge on them.
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Speaker 10: It would next job they go to, they would be
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Speaker 10: more cautious in relations to going out. How they're responding
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Speaker 10: to it, and they're training with them kicking, but it's
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Speaker 10: getting that solidarity together.
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Speaker 1: You go out to with a search warrant with a
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Speaker 1: view of finding weapons, which is what this was. Mike
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Speaker 1: Bush made the point that there was ten police there
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Speaker 1: and some people were a bit confused about the number,
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Speaker 1: and well that was because the property is large and
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Speaker 1: they needed a large number of people to search for it.
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Speaker 1: When you open that I don't want to be too
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Speaker 1: grim here. You open the door of that bus, you're
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Speaker 1: clearly not expecting to be confronted by someone with a shotgun.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I'm hearing a bitter media reports again, it's
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Speaker 10: what's most accurate. I'm hearing that the older detective that
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Speaker 10: was gunned down had a repport allegedly with the person
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Speaker 10: and he went and knocked on a door. So I
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Speaker 10: would imagine three of them are gone there. So you're
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Speaker 10: not going to go and people are asking me in
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Speaker 10: saying way on ten of them. They must have known
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Speaker 10: they're going to expect trouble. They know they're going to
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Speaker 10: get some resistance. They know the history of this particular individual.
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Speaker 10: They hates police, hates the system, hates the government, doesn't.
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Speaker 1: Reports of him calling police gum, refusing to be handcuffed,
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Speaker 1: and all of that.
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Speaker 10: So they would have had a rigorous, robust planning process
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Speaker 10: to say, Okay, what if this and this and this happened,
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Speaker 10: so that I would read into it. And so they've
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Speaker 10: gone in softly. I know the guy, I've got to
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Speaker 10: report with him. I'll go knock on the door. As
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Speaker 10: he's knocking. Allegedly his shots come through the door with
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Speaker 10: a shotgun and killed him. How he's killed the other
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Speaker 10: person and wounded the other one, we don't know who
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Speaker 10: might have had SGS. Given the country he's in, you
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Speaker 10: would expect that he may well certainly have high powered rifles,
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Speaker 10: which is a big concern. And again what's been brought
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Speaker 10: up is the fact that if he's already planned a
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Speaker 10: situations such as this, he's already got his caves, his
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Speaker 10: heidi holes. He's bush smart, and he's got his provisions
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Speaker 10: and the likes. But the police are there now for
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Speaker 10: the long haul, no two ways about it. They are
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Speaker 10: there for long haul. They've got support from New South
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Speaker 10: Wales and really the ones will be that the pointy
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Speaker 10: end of the seat will be the Special Operations Group.
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Speaker 4: They've got the skills to do it.
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Speaker 1: We saw those two heavy armored vehicles which are part
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Speaker 1: of the police fleet clearly, and when it turned the
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Speaker 1: corner to go out to this house or down the road,
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Speaker 1: you saw those Special Operations Group police in the back.
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Speaker 1: How well trained today and you know how determined would
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Speaker 1: they be to get this fellow.
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Speaker 10: They're trained to SAS level. They do train with the
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Speaker 10: SAS aver in Perth and they are the first assault
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Speaker 10: on any terrorst situation. They are the first ones to
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Speaker 10: contain it until if it's bigger, then bigger than it becomes,
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Speaker 10: then they bring in the specialist SAS from the army.
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Speaker 4: So they highly try and they train.
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Speaker 10: It's all they do, train, train and train for urban
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Speaker 10: and bush warfare.
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Speaker 4: Basically, and that's what it is.
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Speaker 10: And they're not going to go in their trapsing throup
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Speaker 10: because they know their quarry.
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Speaker 4: They know this is his territory.
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Speaker 10: We don't know that the terrain, we don't know that
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Speaker 10: they've got the search and rescue there, they'll have their dogs,
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Speaker 10: even the helicopters and the drains.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's like what happened with.
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Speaker 10: Hoddle Street that they could be shot at if he's
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Speaker 10: got a high power rifles. So it is a really
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Speaker 10: concern for them, and they'll be doing it methodically and
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Speaker 10: they might just try and hold the pro and wait
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Speaker 10: it out.
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't get worse to rain, would you not at all?
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Speaker 10: And the temperature based of that mountain where the snow is,
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Speaker 10: so you just don't know whether he's up against and
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Speaker 10: he's sitting back and saying, well, am I going to
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Speaker 10: go out and a blaze of groy would be suicide
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Speaker 10: by cop And they're not going to take a backward step.
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Speaker 10: They want to get this guy, but their main focus
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Speaker 10: is do it as safely as possible for the police,
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Speaker 10: the community and the crook. But if that doesn't happen,
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Speaker 10: he's going to call the shots.
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Speaker 1: Charlie, I mentioned Wall Street and the Silk Miller murders,
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Speaker 1: has been many more. Obviously, it's a very dangerous job.
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Speaker 1: Explained to you as how police stations would feel tonight.
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Speaker 10: Well, again it'll be quite a quiet place. They'll be
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Speaker 10: sitting there, not much talk happening, trying to consider. They're
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Speaker 10: looking at for leadership from our chief Commissioner, the police
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Speaker 10: union and that solidarity going forward. Considering the wounded officer,
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Speaker 10: we don't forget about him at the Alfred and it'll
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Speaker 10: be a very quiet because people will be reflecting. It
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Speaker 10: does have an effect on the recruits, say at the academy,
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Speaker 10: they'll be having second thoughts do we need to go
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Speaker 10: through this? And that really drives at home the danger
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Speaker 10: of it. They've joined the police force with all these
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Speaker 10: great jumping out of helicopters, riding horses, riding motorbikes, and
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Speaker 10: now this is the pointing end of the stick. This
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Speaker 10: is what policing is all about. Look at the armory
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Speaker 10: that the police officer has in the metropolitan area. In
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Speaker 10: my day in the seventies, we had a little thirty
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Speaker 10: two in your pocket. But that's how policing has changed.
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Speaker 1: Remember Well Street twenty one year old and a twenty
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Speaker 1: two year.
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Speaker 4: Old that was ambush to ambush.
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Speaker 1: Yeah remember that one.
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Speaker 10: H PC And again that the verberations are very similar
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Speaker 10: to this. What's happening, Samers Silk Miller and you know
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Speaker 10: that really his home. But this is not America. We're
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Speaker 10: not a gun toting society. But we are getting these radicals,
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Speaker 10: we are getting these terrorists, we are getting these drug effected,
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Speaker 10: mentally impaired that the police are dealing with every day
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Speaker 10: of the week.
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Speaker 4: And then they've got this h vigilance.
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Speaker 10: Police have got hypervigilance that everyone one's going to be
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Speaker 10: a problem to them because they're dealing with bad people
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Speaker 10: ten hours of their shift. They're not dealing with good
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Speaker 10: people most of the time, so they'll be standing back.
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Speaker 10: You approach a police officer, even to say thank you
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Speaker 10: for your service, you'll see them step back.
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Speaker 4: That's hypervigilance.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the sovereign citizens Andrew Rule. He spent
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Speaker 1: years reporting on crimes are made of ours.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: In the Herald Sun, he said, sovereign citizenship is now
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Speaker 1: the call that officers dread. Would you agree with that?
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Speaker 10: Well, I don't think many know about it. I don't
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Speaker 10: hear it much in the media as such, and do our.
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Speaker 1: People thing out of the United States. It seems I've
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Speaker 1: got a bit of a foothold here. Charlie during COVID.
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Speaker 1: When the lockdown Rodin, people were anti vaccination and people
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Speaker 1: didn't want to be locked up in their houses.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, but I don't know what training is involved in
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Speaker 10: now the ranks coming up about being aware of that.
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Speaker 4: It really relies upon it.
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Speaker 10: And Christine Nixon said it, Well, that's one credit I'll
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Speaker 10: giver is policing is as an intelligence led You need intelligence,
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Speaker 10: not smartness, but the intelligence on people. So you've got
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Speaker 10: these groups, there's radical groups around the place. You need
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Speaker 10: to build a dosher on them and then preprepare the
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Speaker 10: people in their patch. We go, we know who lives
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Speaker 10: in our village. You know that the troublemakers they treated approprily,
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Speaker 10: but we've got to go softly. Complaints are then made.
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Speaker 10: This guy had a camera on him all the time,
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Speaker 10: running around making complaints against police, so hey then tackle
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Speaker 10: with it. So it becomes so complicated.
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Speaker 1: I was hypercritical about the Premier. I mean, I take
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Speaker 1: her on a word that she feels for the family
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Speaker 1: and has the Premier she's going to get in touch
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Speaker 1: with them, and the police minister and the police commissioner
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Speaker 1: are talking, but she's let the force down, I mean
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Speaker 1: the force and you and I've spoken about this before.
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Speaker 1: Morale has never been lower. She's trying to cut budgets.
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Speaker 1: Equipment's not up to scratch. Young recruits are hard to
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Speaker 1: find because they don't want to go into a lowly
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Speaker 1: paid job. You told me that even psych referrals have been.
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Speaker 4: They have one hundred percent.
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Speaker 10: There's areas that have been cut just recently by the
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Speaker 10: government and they're not given the support. And I'm a
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Speaker 10: bit disappointed by the union also. And when she's cut that,
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Speaker 10: the union should be jumping up and down and banging
19:12
Speaker 10: and being drugged because they represent the frontline police. They
19:15
Speaker 10: are the ones we've got to support. They are the
19:17
Speaker 10: ones getting smashed. And look, there's a solution there. Get
19:21
Speaker 10: these buddy paper warriors out of command that have sworn
19:24
Speaker 10: police officers, get them out of that role and get
19:26
Speaker 10: them supporting the frontline police.
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Speaker 4: That burns me up every.
19:29
Speaker 1: Time governments need to support police.
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Speaker 10: Oh, and they come out with their rhetoric of it's
19:37
Speaker 10: all about the safety of the community, safety community, but
19:40
Speaker 10: you're cutting the very thing that creates the safety of
19:43
Speaker 10: the community is a police force. They're not getting the support.
19:45
Speaker 10: You've now want to cut the budget. You're not doing
19:48
Speaker 10: this and I'm sick of hearing, oh, we've given the
19:51
Speaker 10: police resources, Well what resources? What have you given the police?
19:54
Speaker 10: And they don't need another law. They need the judges
19:58
Speaker 10: to start locking these people up to make the community safe.
20:01
Speaker 10: If already there, you've just got to then dictate to
20:03
Speaker 10: your judges and magistrates. You've got to start giving the
20:06
Speaker 10: penalties that's legislated.
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Speaker 1: Well said Charlie. Thanks for coming in as usual, Charlie,
20:10
Speaker 1: Zina there will update you if there's any developments up
20:13
Speaker 1: at Paul Punker as we go through the night. Now
20:15
Speaker 1: coming up a big win and hopefully closure for former
20:18
Speaker 1: Coalition senator Linda Reynolds that was in her defamation case
20:21
Speaker 1: against Britney Higgins. Plus Foreign Editor at Australian, Greg Sheridan
20:25
Speaker 1: will be here on the desk. He'll give us his
20:26
Speaker 1: take on the government's historic line in the sand on Iran.
20:35
Speaker 1: Welcome back Greg Sheridan and join us shortly. I just
20:37
Speaker 1: want to go to that hartfought legal victory today for
20:40
Speaker 1: the former Liberal senator Linda Reynolds, with the West Australian
20:44
Speaker 1: Supreme Court today finding Britney Higgins and her husband David
20:47
Speaker 1: Shiraz had defamed Reynolds over a series of social media posts.
20:53
Speaker 1: Chara Hayin filed this report.
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Speaker 11: Steve. It was a long awaited judgment in Wa Court,
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Speaker 11: almost a year after the trial ended. Just as Paul
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Speaker 11: Tottle has found, Linda Reynolds's reputation was damaged by two
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Speaker 11: social media posts made by Britney Higgins.
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Speaker 1: Both imputations were defamatory.
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Speaker 9: The defendant has not established her defense of truth or
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Speaker 9: any of her other defenses.
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Speaker 11: In the posts made in twenty twenty two to twenty three,
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Speaker 11: Miss Higgins suggests her former boss mishandled her reports of
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Speaker 11: rape in Parliament House and accused her of trying to
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Speaker 11: silence sexual assault victims.
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Speaker 12: Today, Justice Tottle has definitively established the truth. There was
21:37
Speaker 12: no conspiracy and there was no political cover up of
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Speaker 12: a rape.
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Speaker 1: It is a great relief.
21:43
Speaker 12: That my reputation has been finally and fully vindicated. However,
21:48
Speaker 12: it is disappointing that it took four and a half years,
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Speaker 12: multiple court actions, and millions of dollars.
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Speaker 11: Two dozen witnesses took the stand in the five week trial,
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Speaker 11: including Linda Reynolds and former Prime Minister Scott Morrison. Britney
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Speaker 11: Higgins did not testify and was not present in court
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Speaker 11: for the decision, instead issuing a statement saying I was
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Speaker 11: twenty four years old when I was sexually assaulted in
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Speaker 11: Parliament House. Six years have passed, years marked by challenge,
22:12
Speaker 11: scrutiny and change. I accept that Linda Reynolds's feelings were
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Speaker 11: hurt by these events and I'm sorry for that. I
22:18
Speaker 11: wish her well for the future. Thank you to the
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Speaker 11: Australian public for their compassion and understanding throughout this journey.
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Speaker 11: My family and I now look forward to healing and
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Speaker 11: rebuilding our lives. For Linda Reynolds, she says this outcome
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Speaker 11: marks the beginning of the rest of her life. She's
22:32
Speaker 11: called on the Labour government to closely review its findings
22:36
Speaker 11: and has criticized it for its role in what she
22:38
Speaker 11: calls a fabricated hit job.
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Speaker 1: Kira, thanks for that. Now let's return to the fallout
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Speaker 1: from that extraordinary revelation that the rogue state of Iran
22:48
Speaker 1: was involved in at least two anti Semitic attacks in
22:52
Speaker 1: Australia since October seven, in Sydney and in Melbourne. Maybe
22:56
Speaker 1: more attacks The Australians peienedor to Greg Sheridan Peters were,
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Speaker 1: they're not regular as with us. In the Australian Today,
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Speaker 1: Greg you argued that the Albanzi government's decision to expel
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Speaker 1: the Iranian ambassador and prescribe the IRGC as terrorist organization
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Speaker 1: long overdue.
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Speaker 13: Yes, Steve, so, I do want to praise the Albanesi government.
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Speaker 13: This was a serious action, well taken for the right motives.
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Speaker 13: But two years ago a parliamentary committee recommended that the
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Speaker 13: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps should be proscribed as a terrorist organization.
23:29
Speaker 13: The Alberanza government says the legislation didn't allow it, so
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Speaker 13: now it's going to introduce new Legislators could have done
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Speaker 13: that easily two years ago, or any time over the
23:36
Speaker 13: last ten years, when it's been abundantly obvious. The Iranian
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Speaker 13: ambassador himself had a shocking record of posting progenocidal, anti
23:47
Speaker 13: Semitic tweets on social media. He got thrashed with a
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Speaker 13: feather by our Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade because
23:53
Speaker 13: allegedly we valued the so called dialogue we could have
23:56
Speaker 13: with them through having an embassy in Tehran. Well, those
24:00
Speaker 13: explanations now look utterly ridiculous.
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Speaker 4: So you know, for the sake of that worthless dialogue.
24:05
Speaker 4: We put up with.
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Speaker 13: That extremism and hatred in our own society. But having
24:09
Speaker 13: said all that, still the Albanese government deserves credit for
24:13
Speaker 13: taking tough action for the right reasons.
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Speaker 1: They couldn't have just decided to designate the Revolutionary Call
24:22
Speaker 1: Group as a terrorist organization and left the ambassady here,
24:26
Speaker 1: could they? Well A copp the hell of a lot
24:28
Speaker 1: of criticism that they tried doing.
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Speaker 4: That, that's right.
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Speaker 13: But I having been a veteran of many of these things,
24:33
Speaker 13: and having read the subsequent books about many of these episodes,
24:37
Speaker 13: I bet you there was a strong voice in government saying, well,
24:40
Speaker 13: Prime minister, you know, we have a trade with Iran,
24:44
Speaker 13: and it's better that we have a dialogue. We're the
24:46
Speaker 13: only five eyes nation with an embassy. If you take
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Speaker 13: this action, there's a danger that they will take, you know,
24:53
Speaker 13: even more severe action against.
24:55
Speaker 4: Our blah blah blah blah blah.
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Speaker 13: So you know, whatever the internal deliberations, they got there
25:01
Speaker 13: in the end, And god knows, I'm critical enough of
25:03
Speaker 13: them about most things. I want to give them a
25:06
Speaker 13: gold star TODAYGC.
25:09
Speaker 1: What sort of a nasty bunch of they.
25:11
Speaker 13: The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps are the ideological, military and
25:15
Speaker 13: financial heart of this regime, more so even than the
25:20
Speaker 13: sort of Islamic Aya tollers. They are a corrupt, brutal,
25:25
Speaker 13: ideological Islamist outfit. They're a quasi military outfit, but they
25:29
Speaker 13: have their own prison system, their own businesses. Are the
25:34
Speaker 13: chief exporters of terrorism around the world.
25:37
Speaker 1: So they're the money men for Hamas and Hezbolla and lahooties.
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, they funnel money to all the Iranian proxies. They
25:46
Speaker 13: are a paramilitary force themselves. They keep the Iya tollers
25:49
Speaker 13: in power. I mean, if we're ever going to get
25:51
Speaker 13: any progress in Iran. One interesting division is between the
25:55
Speaker 13: regular army, which resembles ordinary Iranian society, as opposed to
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Speaker 13: the IRGC, which is a corrupt, self serving elite but
26:03
Speaker 13: nonetheless extremely ideological.
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that the IIGCED do
26:08
Speaker 1: they crack down on their own people who show any
26:11
Speaker 1: sign of wanting to overthrow the Mullers. Oh?
26:13
Speaker 13: Yes, brutally. You don't even have to overthrow the Mullers.
26:16
Speaker 13: You want to overthrow the Mullers. If you demonstrate for
26:19
Speaker 13: human rights, you're likely to have your legs broken and
26:22
Speaker 13: end up throwing into a prison. As we've seen, if
26:25
Speaker 13: you're a woman who wears the scarf the wrong way,
26:29
Speaker 13: you may be sexually molested by these thugs and indeed
26:32
Speaker 13: end up dead in jail. Iran, like China, like the
26:37
Speaker 13: People's Republic of China, is very very enthusiastic about executing
26:42
Speaker 13: its own citizens who oppose the government. The Iranian people
26:45
Speaker 13: are a great people of Persian civilization, one of the
26:48
Speaker 13: great human civilizations. They are imprisoned by these people who
26:54
Speaker 13: are kleptomaniacs. They're thieves, but they are also genuine extremists
26:59
Speaker 13: and anti Semitism. The hatred of Jews, like the hatred
27:03
Speaker 13: of the United States, is a central part of their worldview.
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Speaker 1: Can you ever see an overthrow?
27:08
Speaker 13: Look, it's possible. I think it's more likely to be
27:12
Speaker 13: because of a division amongst the elites than because of
27:16
Speaker 13: a popular uprising from below, because popular uprisings work when
27:21
Speaker 13: a regime can't command its troops anymore to shoot its citizens.
27:25
Speaker 13: But the IRGC is very happy to shoot its citizens,
27:28
Speaker 13: I know.
27:28
Speaker 1: The Uranian Foreign Minister took to Twitter saying quote netnya,
27:33
Speaker 1: who was right about one thing. Australia as Prime Minister
27:35
Speaker 1: indeed a weak politician, and he went on to say
27:38
Speaker 1: Canberra should know better. Tehran has vowed reciprocal action. Anthony
27:43
Speaker 1: Alberaneze wouldn't have liked that too much.
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Speaker 13: No, but again, I think the Prime Minister has handled
27:48
Speaker 13: all this well. I've been very critical of the government
27:51
Speaker 13: in its Middle East policies, but I think Prime Minister Netanya,
27:54
Speaker 13: who was ill advised to make a personal attack on Alberanzi.
27:57
Speaker 4: I think that didn't help anyone, and I.
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Speaker 13: Think Albanese responded to it properly with a dead bat,
28:04
Speaker 13: low key. And it's right he's getting good advice. He's
28:08
Speaker 13: taken good advice to respond to this personal abuse from
28:12
Speaker 13: the Iranians.
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Speaker 4: With a dead bat.
28:15
Speaker 13: It's disturbing when they say they will take reciprocal action.
28:19
Speaker 13: They again, like well, like Beijing and like Moscow, they
28:23
Speaker 13: practice hostage diplomacy, and they don't only take diplomats as hostages.
28:30
Speaker 13: They might take any Australian. Now, I mean, I don't
28:32
Speaker 13: want to tempt fate or anything, but the government is
28:34
Speaker 13: very sensible to advise that has been doing for some years,
28:38
Speaker 13: to advise Australians not to go there, and to advise
28:40
Speaker 13: Australians who are there to leave. This regime has a
28:44
Speaker 13: big history of sponsoring international terrorism, international assassination. Well done
28:50
Speaker 13: to Azo and the Australian.
28:52
Speaker 1: American hostages as we know, and.
28:54
Speaker 13: Indeed Australians Kylie Moore, Gilbert and so on, and these
28:58
Speaker 13: people were not officials or anything like that. It's a
29:02
Speaker 13: chilling testimony that she has that one of the elements
29:06
Speaker 13: of the interrogation of her was do you know these
29:09
Speaker 13: Jewish sites in Australia. What do you know about Jews
29:11
Speaker 13: in Australia. I mean, these are really a monstrous regime.
29:15
Speaker 13: And the old sort of silly diplomacy view of these
29:19
Speaker 13: regimes is the more you sort of integrate them internationally,
29:23
Speaker 13: the softer they'll be. And so but regimes like Moscow, Beijing,
29:27
Speaker 13: pyeong Yang, Tehran, their ideology is not mollified by a
29:32
Speaker 13: cup of tea or a glass of red wine with
29:34
Speaker 13: an Australian diplomat. It's heart baked into them.
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Speaker 1: Great contribution, Greg, Thank you. We'll reach a piece in
29:39
Speaker 1: Australia tomorrow. Thanks to Greg Sheridan. Make sure you catch
29:42
Speaker 1: you stuff in the Australia. And he is the best
29:44
Speaker 1: analysis of all of that now to the economy who
29:47
Speaker 1: we have to do it With the monthly inflation indicator,
29:50
Speaker 1: it searves to a two point eight percent. That's the
29:52
Speaker 1: highest level in twelve months. Not surprisingly, one of the
29:56
Speaker 1: key drivers of that surge is the cost of energy,
29:58
Speaker 1: which rose by thirteen on average. Joining me now a
30:01
Speaker 1: former Assistant Treasury Secretary, David Pearl, David, welcome. I want
30:06
Speaker 1: to start explain to me this idea that these figures
30:09
Speaker 1: don't really reflect the true state of the economy that
30:12
Speaker 1: I hear defenders of the economy continuing talking about.
30:17
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me on, Steve. In fact, the figures
30:20
Speaker 9: do reflect the true state of the economy. They're in
30:23
Speaker 9: insight into the true state because, as your viewers would know,
30:28
Speaker 9: the government has been subsidizing electricity bills for some time,
30:32
Speaker 9: and the jump up in headline inflation that we saw
30:34
Speaker 9: for July was a result of that bill relief being
30:39
Speaker 9: delayed for people in New South Wales and the Act.
30:42
Speaker 9: So it's an insight into the fact that the government
30:44
Speaker 9: has been suppressing electricity bills with subsidies for some time,
30:49
Speaker 9: and at the end of the year when those subsidies
30:51
Speaker 9: are due to come off, our headline inflation rate is
30:53
Speaker 9: going to jump up to three percent.
30:57
Speaker 1: So I think we even had the true measure of
31:00
Speaker 1: Jim Charmers today. I think we've got to grab of
31:02
Speaker 1: him here talking about what you've just told us about
31:06
Speaker 1: the subsidies on energy that the government's been paying out.
31:10
Speaker 1: He tried to use that as some excuses to why
31:13
Speaker 1: the inflation rate went up.
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Speaker 14: He listen, the biggest influence, the biggest influence on the
31:19
Speaker 14: number that the Shadow treasure has mentioned is the timing
31:24
Speaker 14: of the energy bill rebates that we are providing on
31:27
Speaker 14: this side of the house, which those opposite they want
31:30
Speaker 14: us to be provided. And that does go to a
31:32
Speaker 14: very important difference, mister Speaker, this side of the House
31:36
Speaker 14: providing help with electricity bills, that side of the house
31:39
Speaker 14: trying to prevent it.
31:42
Speaker 1: You're an economist, David makes sense of that for me
31:44
Speaker 1: if you can.
31:48
Speaker 9: Well, it's a bit rich for Jim Charmers and the
31:50
Speaker 9: government to be crowing about reducing electricity bills because their
31:55
Speaker 9: net zero energy policy is forcing up those bills. Every
31:59
Speaker 9: country around the world that is further along us on
32:03
Speaker 9: the net zero track with renewables has higher electricity prices
32:07
Speaker 9: and we're following suit. So the government's jacking up electricity
32:12
Speaker 9: prices and then spending taxpayer money to bring them down.
32:16
Speaker 9: And Jim charmers omits to mention that the government's electricity
32:20
Speaker 9: bill relief comes off at the end of the year
32:23
Speaker 9: and that's going to cause inflation to jump. This is
32:25
Speaker 9: a self imposed Ponzi scheme, Steve. We subsidize wind and solar,
32:31
Speaker 9: which makes coal uneconomic, and therefore we have to subsidize that.
32:35
Speaker 9: We have to subsidize heavy industry to prevent the industrialization,
32:39
Speaker 9: and we have to subsidize consumers for high electricity bills.
32:42
Speaker 9: This is not an economic policy of a serious country.
32:46
Speaker 9: It's a self imposed Ponzi scheme, as I've said.
32:50
Speaker 1: And the reality is average people watching us tonight, You
32:53
Speaker 1: and I David would say, well, yes, of course, inflations
32:57
Speaker 1: still high and it's going up because every time I
32:59
Speaker 1: go to the Superman market, every time I go to
33:01
Speaker 1: the Petrum station, every time I get a bill in
33:03
Speaker 1: my letterbox, it costs me more every time I pay
33:05
Speaker 1: my insurance.
33:08
Speaker 9: Well, let's not forget that the price level in Australia
33:13
Speaker 9: is fifteen to twenty percent higher than it was in
33:17
Speaker 9: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty. So even though headline inflation
33:21
Speaker 9: has come down in part because the government is suppressing
33:24
Speaker 9: energy bills, as I've said, prices that people have to
33:27
Speaker 9: manage when they're dealing with their budgets are fifteen to
33:31
Speaker 9: twenty percent higher, so they're poorer to that degree. So
33:35
Speaker 9: if people are unhappy and they feel that they're not
33:37
Speaker 9: getting ahead in life, they've got good reason to feel
33:40
Speaker 9: that way.
33:42
Speaker 1: What do you think the Reserve Bank Board will make
33:46
Speaker 1: of this? Obviously people were having had the fingers crossed
33:49
Speaker 1: that they might get another interest rate cut next month.
33:52
Speaker 1: With your experience, David, is that now likely off the table?
33:58
Speaker 9: Well, perhaps it's slightly less likely, although I should say
34:01
Speaker 9: that this quarterly inflation result today is not the one
34:05
Speaker 9: that the RBA Board tracks. They look at the full
34:08
Speaker 9: quarterly inflation report, which surveys a wider range of goods
34:13
Speaker 9: and services. So that'll come out I think sometime in September,
34:17
Speaker 9: So rather than cutting in September, I think the Bank's
34:19
Speaker 9: more likely to wait until November. But they should also
34:22
Speaker 9: bear in mind what's going on in the US, where
34:25
Speaker 9: Donald Trump is involved in a full conflict with the reserve,
34:29
Speaker 9: Federal Reserve there and strong wages growth in Australia in
34:33
Speaker 9: a strong labor market. So the outlook for inflation is
34:36
Speaker 9: not entirely smooth sailing. But if the RBA board moves,
34:40
Speaker 9: it's more likely to be in November than September.
34:44
Speaker 1: Spre I, let you go, what did you make of
34:46
Speaker 1: that housing announcement where they're going to open up first
34:49
Speaker 1: home buyers getting on You're having to have a five
34:51
Speaker 1: percent deposit and anybody on any salary can do it.
34:57
Speaker 4: Well.
34:57
Speaker 1: Again, it's unmeans tested, isn't it.
34:58
Speaker 9: I think the Coalitions version of that policy was intended
35:02
Speaker 9: to limit it limit that relief to low income people.
35:05
Speaker 9: The Government's opened it up to everybody, and so for
35:09
Speaker 9: every lucky person that secures a home with that assistance,
35:13
Speaker 9: you're going to get everybody else facing higher house prices.
35:17
Speaker 9: It's self defeating. It's no solution to the housing crisis.
35:21
Speaker 9: Supply is really the only solution. But again it's consistent
35:25
Speaker 9: with what I've been talking about before, with you Steve,
35:28
Speaker 9: the government forcing up energy prices and then with the
35:32
Speaker 9: other hand, offering taxpayer subsidies which are unsustainable to try
35:36
Speaker 9: and keep them in check.
35:41
Speaker 1: David Perlol was good to catch up. Thanks for your
35:43
Speaker 1: time and insights tonight. Now coming up after the break,
35:46
Speaker 1: more on the police shootings in Victoria. Are we doing
35:49
Speaker 1: enough to protect those who protect us? The police? Plus
35:53
Speaker 1: that dog and inflation data we've just been talking about.
35:56
Speaker 1: It's certainly not what the Albanezy government needed today. That's
35:59
Speaker 1: next with the panel, Welcome back and remind Andrew Bock
36:07
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the Aaron kel Richard's
36:08
Speaker 1: Our Wordsmith on Wednesday nights. He'll be with a short
36:11
Speaker 1: let's jump into our Wednesday night panel though SKYT News
36:14
Speaker 1: contributed to Jamie Rodgers and One Nation Chief of Staff
36:17
Speaker 1: James Ashby. Great to have you both with us. I
36:19
Speaker 1: just want to start with you, Jamie. We're talking at
36:22
Speaker 1: the start of the program with seasoned next detective Charlie
36:25
Speaker 1: Bezina about the impact on police officers when they're involved
36:28
Speaker 1: in an incident like the execution of two officers yesterday
36:33
Speaker 1: in Victoria. It really does show us, doesn't it. The
36:37
Speaker 1: people who put on a uniform, doesn't matter what state
36:40
Speaker 1: they're in and they're working for the police, they really
36:43
Speaker 1: go to work every day with the chances that they
36:46
Speaker 1: might not come home. It's a tough job.
36:49
Speaker 15: It's just devastating, isn't it, Steve, As you said, it's
36:52
Speaker 15: a really tough job. Every single time that a police
36:55
Speaker 15: officer puts their uniform on and walks out their front door,
36:58
Speaker 15: they don't know if they'll be coming home. And fortunately
37:00
Speaker 15: that was the sad reality for two police officers yesterday
37:04
Speaker 15: who went off to do their job and they didn't
37:06
Speaker 15: come home. My heart goes out to the families and
37:09
Speaker 15: the police community as well, because they have far too
37:12
Speaker 15: often these stories where they risk their lives and unfortunately
37:15
Speaker 15: we need to see the government be able to give
37:17
Speaker 15: them more support and sure that their equipment is up
37:20
Speaker 15: to scratch so that they are as armed as possible
37:23
Speaker 15: every single time that they go out there to defend
37:26
Speaker 15: all of us. Steve and I think it's just incredibly
37:29
Speaker 15: heartbreaking what we've seen and let's hope that they can
37:31
Speaker 15: catch the man on the run asap.
37:35
Speaker 1: James, you're a Queenslander. It's almost a mirror version of
37:38
Speaker 1: what happened last year. I think it was in Queensland.
37:42
Speaker 1: Same sort of ambush, same sort of nutter in a
37:45
Speaker 1: couple of nutters in the house. It's just almost a
37:48
Speaker 1: copycat killing, isn't it?
37:51
Speaker 4: It is concerning.
37:52
Speaker 6: This should have just been a routine check of weapons
37:55
Speaker 6: inspection like so many of US licensed firearms owners have
37:58
Speaker 6: on a daily basis. Like some of these coppers where
38:02
Speaker 6: I live, they do this on a routine basis.
38:05
Speaker 4: To think that they are walking.
38:07
Speaker 6: Into what I can only see as a trap to
38:11
Speaker 6: lose their lives off the back of this is just terrific.
38:13
Speaker 6: And I must say, you know, I noticed Harry Clark,
38:16
Speaker 6: your journalist. This is his second mash or shooting in
38:20
Speaker 6: this same respect. He covered the one at Wallon Biller
38:23
Speaker 6: and now he's at this next one.
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Speaker 4: It's gruesome.
38:26
Speaker 6: It's gruesome for the families of anyone who has a
38:29
Speaker 6: family member who's a police officer. But it's also gruesome
38:32
Speaker 6: for those that have to go and attend these scenes
38:34
Speaker 6: as well.
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Speaker 4: It's horrible.
38:36
Speaker 1: You're in Canberra the federal government parlance back. Of course,
38:40
Speaker 1: you're going to go to the ball tonight. I presume
38:42
Speaker 1: with Pauline that'll be something we want to have a
38:45
Speaker 1: look at. See what you're going to wear tonight up on.
38:46
Speaker 4: These years ago.
38:47
Speaker 1: See, I'd rather stick pins in my eyes, to be honest,
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Speaker 1: I'm decision to boot out the Iranian ambassador and call
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Speaker 1: for experts to come home from Iran. Greg Sheridan was
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Speaker 1: just telling us there. The Iranian Foreign Minister has actually
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Speaker 1: said we could have a reciprocal action in this space,
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Speaker 1: which could mean that the attempted kidnapping of Australians in Iran.
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Speaker 1: Critics say this should have happened sooner. It should have
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Speaker 1: two years ago. I think the coalition we're pushing the
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Speaker 1: Albanese government to actually declare this outfit as a terrorist organization.
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Speaker 6: Why wouldn't they do it, Well, we've got a weak
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Speaker 6: government and it was one nation that has been declared this,
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Speaker 6: not only the Coalition, but one nation. Two years ago
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Speaker 6: he said we should have pulled out our ambassador from
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Speaker 6: Tyrane and we should have booted the ambassador for Iran
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Speaker 6: out of Australia at the same time. This has been
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Speaker 6: something we call for two long years ago. Now the
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Speaker 6: reality of this is Look what it's proven to me is, yes,
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Speaker 6: Anthony Albanese he has acted finally on this. But it
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Speaker 6: proves to me that Anthony Alberanese, he does have the
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Speaker 6: power to get rid of people out of this country.
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Speaker 6: And yet We've still we've got one hundred thousand illegal
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Speaker 6: migrants in this country that he's done nothing about. I've
40:04
Speaker 6: got seventy five thousand people that have overstayed their visas
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Speaker 6: he continues to.
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Speaker 4: Do nothing about.
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Speaker 6: So in title, one hundred and seventy five thousand people
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Speaker 6: in this country illegally, and this is a government that
40:15
Speaker 6: refused to act. Look, it's well overdo that this government
40:20
Speaker 6: gets harsher not just on countries that conduct themselves in
40:25
Speaker 6: the manner they have in fire bombings across Australia, but
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Speaker 6: also those people who conduct themselves illegally who are here
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Speaker 6: as guests in our country.
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Speaker 4: Get them all gone, Steve.
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Speaker 1: Jamie. It's also, of course what's happened here. The Iranians
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Speaker 1: with their third parties have the tinder box of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 1: No one now can expect that that gets put back
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Speaker 1: in a box. I mean, I don't see how we're
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Speaker 1: going to walk away from that anti semitism. It's going
40:53
Speaker 1: to continue to happen. I mean, the people the Uranians
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Speaker 1: paid set this benchmark, and other Australians presumably taking it
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Speaker 1: up and taking it to heart, and they're going to
41:04
Speaker 1: continue to do it.
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Speaker 15: You're exactly right, there're, Steve. The scenes that we've seen
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Speaker 15: in this country over the past two years and the
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Speaker 15: rise in anti Semitism and the rise in hate is
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Speaker 15: absolutely disgraceful and to your point, I don't know how
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Speaker 15: we start to control that. It does help that Anthony
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Speaker 15: Albernizi today did stand up and has been strong in
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Speaker 15: deporting Iran's ambassador. But Israel have been right all along, Steve.
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Speaker 15: They were the ones that have been saying that Iran
41:30
Speaker 15: are the sponsors of terrorist organizations is now that we
41:34
Speaker 15: have seen regarding the link to Hermas. And they also
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Speaker 15: when they went and got rid of Iran's nuclear power,
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Speaker 15: of which it took Albo to wait until Donald Trump
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Speaker 15: in the US to say that he supported that. And
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Speaker 15: one thing that I find really concerning, though, Steve, is
41:49
Speaker 15: we have played into Iran's hands with Anthony Alberonzi going
41:53
Speaker 15: and declaring that Australia does support a Palestinian statehood, with
41:57
Speaker 15: the fact that Hermas are still in control all there,
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Speaker 15: and this is what Iran wanted. They wanted the rise
42:03
Speaker 15: and anti semitism in Australia that has happened. They wanted
42:07
Speaker 15: Australia to be able to recognize a Palestinian statehood with Hamas,
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Speaker 15: which is their proxy still in power, and that has
42:13
Speaker 15: happened as well. So I think that it's great that
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Speaker 15: Albo has done it. It's just very unfortunate it's taken
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Speaker 15: him more than two years since that he was first
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Speaker 15: told that this should be the direction that they go in.
42:23
Speaker 15: I'm glad he's done it. It's just unfortunate it's a
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Speaker 15: bit too late.
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Speaker 1: James. We had that roundtable last week. Nothing seems to
42:30
Speaker 1: come out of that, no solid ideas, and now we
42:32
Speaker 1: find out today inflation has gone back to two point
42:35
Speaker 1: eight percent, which is just below the three percent of
42:38
Speaker 1: area that the Reserve Bank wants to know about. We're
42:41
Speaker 1: not telling it ordinary Australians watching us tonight that things
42:44
Speaker 1: are expensive. Every time you go and buy something, it
42:47
Speaker 1: seems to have gone up. I mean, inflation is rampant
42:49
Speaker 1: in the country. And Jim Chalmers says, oh, it's because
42:52
Speaker 1: we know we put some energy bill relief into the system.
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Speaker 6: I mean seriously, well, now that that energy relief has
43:02
Speaker 6: come off the boil, we've seen energy prices thirteen point
43:06
Speaker 6: one percent and that in itself is a partial reason
43:09
Speaker 6: why inflation has gone up. You know, Michelle Bullock was
43:12
Speaker 6: right to say two years ago that the only way
43:14
Speaker 6: to bring down the interest rates in this country is
43:18
Speaker 6: to see either inflation come down or job losses increase.
43:25
Speaker 6: And the reality of it is she's right. This is
43:28
Speaker 6: a government that can't bring inflation down. So the sad
43:31
Speaker 6: part is people of this country under Anthony Albaneasy and
43:35
Speaker 6: the labor governments, what you're going to have to lose
43:37
Speaker 6: their job for us to see interest rates come down,
43:40
Speaker 6: and she predicted that's got a rise to around four
43:44
Speaker 6: and a half percent. That's disgraceful to think that's the
43:47
Speaker 6: only way we're going to see future interest rates come down.
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Speaker 6: At the moment, Steve, I can't see any foreseeable cuts
43:54
Speaker 6: to people's home loan rates, which means that everyone with
43:58
Speaker 6: the home loan is going to suffer, and anyone who's
44:01
Speaker 6: in a rental property where the owner is trying to
44:04
Speaker 6: pay that off is also going to see their rent
44:06
Speaker 6: rises too. It's just disastrous whichever way you try and
44:09
Speaker 6: carve this as a government, Jamie.
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Speaker 1: Just finally, when you talk to small businesses around your area,
44:16
Speaker 1: how tough are they doing it?
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Speaker 15: Really tough Steve, this is something that's been ongoing for
44:21
Speaker 15: such a long time now and energy prices. We always
44:24
Speaker 15: talk about, Steve, how energy is the economy and when
44:27
Speaker 15: we see things like energy prices have gone up by
44:30
Speaker 15: thirteen percent in the past year to July, how are
44:33
Speaker 15: businesses and households as well supposed to be able to
44:35
Speaker 15: keep paying for this. We're heading in towards a direction, Steve,
44:38
Speaker 15: where we're going to be a country that's going to
44:40
Speaker 15: be facing energy poverty, where people have to make the
44:42
Speaker 15: decision of paying their electricity bills or going and paying
44:46
Speaker 15: it for food. Because with sky high prices like thirteen
44:49
Speaker 15: percent increased, Steve over twelve months is outrageous for energy.
44:52
Speaker 15: And I know a lot of economists have been saying
44:55
Speaker 15: that this rise in inflation is being linked back to
44:58
Speaker 15: these high energy prices.
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Speaker 1: Well, Jim Chalmers tells us everything's just hunky dory, Jamie
45:05
Speaker 1: and James Sanksu, it's good pleasure to catch up with you.
45:07
Speaker 1: Peter will be back with you next week, coming up
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Speaker 1: after the breaks, talking of Peter's favorites. Wordsmith kel Richards
45:14
Speaker 1: is here to take it through some fresh words. Welcome
45:21
Speaker 1: back to Steve Price with you just on the hunt
45:24
Speaker 1: for Deisy Freeman. There's been no police updates while we've
45:27
Speaker 1: gone out. We'll keep an eye on that through the
45:29
Speaker 1: rest of the night. Wednesday, regular wordsmith and broadcaster Kel
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Speaker 1: Richards joins us. Great to see you, Kel, and I'm
45:34
Speaker 1: sure Peter will be looking forward to seeing you this
45:37
Speaker 1: time next week. We've had Aileen asking us about the
45:40
Speaker 1: expression breaker leg Where does that originate from? Obviously you
45:44
Speaker 1: say that to someone who's going to be in a
45:46
Speaker 1: stage show, intended to wish them luck. Where's it come from?
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Speaker 7: Not recorded before nineteen twenty five. There are some stories
45:54
Speaker 7: about it going back to the eighteenth century. They're all
45:56
Speaker 7: rubbish nineteen twenty five, so it's a twentieth century expression.
45:59
Speaker 7: And the Oxford who know everything about this say they
46:02
Speaker 7: assume it comes from theatrical superstition. Well, yes, it does
46:07
Speaker 7: come from theatrical superstition. There was a superstition that it
46:10
Speaker 7: was bad luck to say good luck to a performer
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Speaker 7: about to go on stage.
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Speaker 1: So you said the opposite, you say break a league,
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Speaker 1: and I hope that you don't ever say it to
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Speaker 1: anyone who's about to appear in a stage show. And
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Speaker 1: it actually happens for them. Oh, that would be the
46:28
Speaker 1: that would be the ultimate cruel act. Now battle acts,
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Speaker 1: Carol asks, how did the name of a weapon, namely
46:34
Speaker 1: a battle axe come to be applied to Well, I
46:38
Speaker 1: think this is a little unfair a description of elderly women.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is unfair.
46:43
Speaker 1: It's terrible.
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Speaker 7: The weapon has been called a battle act since the
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Speaker 7: thirteen hundreds and was obviously a really fearsome weapon. The
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Speaker 7: metaphorical expression that we're talking about came up in America.
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Speaker 7: Eighteen fifty six.
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Speaker 1: Is the earliest it's recorded.
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Speaker 7: It appears to be the case, as far as we
46:59
Speaker 7: can workout, that there were some people, I think mainly
47:03
Speaker 7: sons in law, who found some women really frightening, as
47:07
Speaker 7: frightening as a battle weapon, so they called them battle axes.
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Speaker 7: It's unkind listen it, Steve.
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Speaker 1: I bet the mother in law never found out who
47:16
Speaker 1: was the son in law who was describing her as
47:19
Speaker 1: a battle axe. He wouldn't have lasted very long.
47:21
Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I've never been to India. It's on my wishless. Calcutter,
47:25
Speaker 1: though the black Hole of Calcutta might rites. Can you
47:28
Speaker 1: please explain why Kolcutter Calcutter is called the black Hole
47:33
Speaker 1: of Calcutter.
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Speaker 7: Oh well, actually it's the expression black hole of Calcutta
47:37
Speaker 7: is now used metaphorically, so any small dark space could
47:41
Speaker 7: be called. Oh, it's like the black hole of Calcutta.
47:43
Speaker 7: But it was a real thing. In the nineteenth of
47:47
Speaker 7: June seventeen fifty six there was an uprising and as
47:51
Speaker 7: a result of that, Fort William in Calcutter fell and
47:54
Speaker 7: I think sixty four British soldiers, Anglo Indian soldiers and
47:58
Speaker 7: civilians were and into a punishment cell, a tiny little
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Speaker 7: cell overnight. In the morning, only twenty one was still alive.
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Speaker 7: So ever since then, that's where the idea of the
48:10
Speaker 7: black hole of Calcutta comes from, and since then it's
48:13
Speaker 7: been used metaphorically. When you know what really happened, it's
48:15
Speaker 7: a fairly horrible story.
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Speaker 1: It is a pretty horrible story. We've run out of
48:21
Speaker 1: time for thinke As bricks ol save that 'or put
48:23
Speaker 1: it on Peter Creblin's list for next week. Kel Thank
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Speaker 1: you for the last five weeks. It's been a great
48:27
Speaker 1: pleasure catching up with you on a Wednesday night. Andrew
48:30
Speaker 1: Bolt's coming up next. As I said, no updates on
48:32
Speaker 1: the hunt for Desi Freeman, who is thought to be
48:35
Speaker 1: the killer of two police. Andrew's up next