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Gorgeous teen girl ambushed, killed by "masked men"? WHY? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: x M thank you for being our partner. You have children,
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  Speaker 1: right or a grandchild, or a niece or a nephew
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  Speaker 1: mine or twelve right now, imagine Honey Malone's mother, her
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  Speaker 1: teen girl, Vanessa Honey Malone, just eighteen years old, great grades,
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  Speaker 1: never in trouble, even has a job. She comes home,
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  Speaker 1: she steps out in the condo complex. The next thing
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  Speaker 1: you know at the door and Mom discovers Honey has
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  Speaker 1: been shot dead. Why right now a major break in
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  Speaker 1: the case. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Crime
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  Speaker 1: Story with Nancy Grace. How does a beautiful and I
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  Speaker 1: mean beautiful eighteen year old girl end up dead? A
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  Speaker 1: girl scrubbed in sunshine? You know my children now, my
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  Speaker 1: twins John, David and Lucy are twelve, they'll soon be thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: God help me this young girl just five years older
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  Speaker 1: than them. I'm talking about a beautiful girl, Vanessa Malone,
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  Speaker 1: so sweet. Her nickname's Honey. I Nancy Grace, this is
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. The night
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  Speaker 1: of October twenty three began to play out like every
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  Speaker 1: other night, except somehow Vanessa Honey Malone ends up dead.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us here at
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories on Fox Nation and Sex one eleven with
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  Speaker 1: Me and all Star Powell. But first, take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to our friends at CBS forty six CSI, Atlanta's podcast
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  Speaker 1: host Karen Greer. Police in decap County, Georgia, respond to
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  Speaker 1: a call at an apartment complex. Two victims meet police outside.
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  Speaker 1: They claim a group of masked men barged into their apartment,
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  Speaker 1: tied them up and locked them in the bathroom. Police
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  Speaker 1: walk into the Dingy Rundown apartment, they see a trail
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  Speaker 1: of blood leading from the front door to a bedroom
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  Speaker 1: in the back. There in the closet is the body
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  Speaker 1: of eighteen year old Vanessa Malone. Three or Honey's friends
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  Speaker 1: were at the apartment that night before Honey got there.
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  Speaker 1: They claim three to six men dressed in all black
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  Speaker 1: stormed into the apartment. One of Honey's friends was able
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  Speaker 1: to get away, while the horde of masked bandits tied
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  Speaker 1: the other two victims together with an extension chord and
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  Speaker 1: lock them in the bathroom. The burglars were ransacking the
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  Speaker 1: apartment when the victims heard Honey come in the front door,
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  Speaker 1: and then there were gunshots. You were hearing our friend
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  Speaker 1: Karen Greer at CBS forty six, the news anchor and
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  Speaker 1: host of CSI Atlanta with me as I mentioned an
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  Speaker 1: all star panel including Karen Greer from CBS forty six Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: my longtime colleague Cheryl mccollin, director of the Cold Case
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  Speaker 1: Research Institute and forensic expert who took this case national
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  Speaker 1: with me, Wendy Patrick former prosecutor and author of Red Flags.
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  Speaker 1: On Amazon, you can find her at Wendy Patrick PhD
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Renowned psychoanalyst to the stars, doctor Bethany Marshall
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  Speaker 1: joining us from Beverly Hills you can find her at
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  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. And two very special guests
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  Speaker 1: joining me, and I feel like I know them. Flora Malone,
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  Speaker 1: this is Vanessa Honey Malone's mother, and Cassandra Kennedy, her sister. Ladies,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. First of all, to
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  Speaker 1: Miss Malone, this is Honey's mother, Miss Malone. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like over time since I first covered Honey's death, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I've gotten to know you. But nobody understands
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  Speaker 1: the grief a mother endures when her child is dead,
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  Speaker 1: When her child, much less is dead from violence. It's
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  Speaker 1: not like she got ill and was in the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like she had a car crash, nothing like that.
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  Speaker 1: To have her taken away from you so young, such
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful girl, with her life in front of her,
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  Speaker 1: it's something I don't think you ever get over this day,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Malone. Do you still feel what you felt the
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  Speaker 1: night that Honey was killed? Absolutely? Because we miss them
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  Speaker 1: every day. We're still in shocked. It means you took
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  Speaker 1: a big part of our lives away from them. You know, sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCallum, you know my twins very well. I look
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  Speaker 1: at them and I imagine, you know, when they get
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  Speaker 1: eighteen and they, I hope, go away to college. I
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  Speaker 1: think about how empty our home will be without them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what I did before them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do after they go away.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember, Cheryl McCollum, when Honey, when it first
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  Speaker 1: hit the news, Honey Malone had been killed. Yes, And
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  Speaker 1: I remember the first time that I met her mom.
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  Speaker 1: She came to the college and tracked me down and
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  Speaker 1: just wanted help. I mean she was digging, begging for help, begging.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she just wanted help from anybody. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: she touched me so much that the way she talked
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  Speaker 1: about Honey, I just felt kind of a connection, and
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  Speaker 1: I thought, we're gonna do everything we can to try
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  Speaker 1: to help her. You know, I'm curious, Cheryl McCollum, why
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  Speaker 1: do you think Honey's mother had to seek you out?
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  Speaker 1: Of course you're an expert. I mean that goes without saying.
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  Speaker 1: But why wasn't she getting answers to what happened to
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  Speaker 1: her daughter? I think law ENFORCEMNT wanted to play it
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  Speaker 1: close to the vant as sometimes they do, and she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't getting a lot of response. That she was craving.
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  Speaker 1: She had said it herself that she just felt like
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  Speaker 1: she was this crazy person that her mind could not
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  Speaker 1: rest because she had so many questions and they were
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  Speaker 1: not providing these just for her, that she was desperate for.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Back to Honey's mother, Miss Malone, Miss Flora that day,
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  Speaker 1: and now I know Honey was living with you and
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  Speaker 1: you picked her up from work. Where was she working?
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  Speaker 1: She worked at a little company called C W. Price.
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  Speaker 1: What was that? A little um kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: mini wrong? And you picked her up from work that day? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I drove her to work. I took her early so
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  Speaker 1: she could get her nails done and eat before work,
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  Speaker 1: and then I picked her up around nine thirty five
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  Speaker 1: ninety was a typical predis then what happened? What happened? Then?
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  Speaker 1: When we came home, she was telling me she had
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  Speaker 1: a long day, she was tired. Um, I said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And then she was talking to somebody, and then she said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna be right back,
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  Speaker 1: all right. And I said, well, you tired, so just
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  Speaker 1: stay home. She's like, no, I'll be right back. And
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  Speaker 1: then she left out and came right back then walked
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  Speaker 1: around the whole condo all the way back to my room,
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, I love you, Mom, Like I love
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  Speaker 1: you too. And it didn't seem strange until after I
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  Speaker 1: found out what happened. That maybe she knew I have
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  Speaker 1: one of these minds that has I'd like to feel
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  Speaker 1: her the blanks of everything. So when she said she
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  Speaker 1: was going out, you just assumed that she was walking
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  Speaker 1: around the neighborhood. Yes, I figured she would stop by
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  Speaker 1: just a person that's really closed because she doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a car and nobody was there to pick her up. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: she said she would be right back, so I think
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  Speaker 1: that she would go some places. You know, I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at her picture right now, missing alone, and I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: she's got her hair pulled up and then down and
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  Speaker 1: curls on the side. That's the way my sister wore
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  Speaker 1: her hair in high school. How long would it take
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  Speaker 1: honey to do those curls? Natural? Curly here really because
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  Speaker 1: she looks like a model. Guys, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: see this gorgeous girl, go to crime online dot com.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just looking at her, the whole world in
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  Speaker 1: front of her. How did it all go wrong? You know?
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  Speaker 1: To doctor Bethany Marshall, Psycho Allen's joining me out of
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  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, Doctor Bethany, I still speak about my dad
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  Speaker 1: Mac usually as if he's still alive, because to me,
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  Speaker 1: he's so real to me all the time. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've got a shirt right here that I
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  Speaker 1: wear all the time. I'm do. Have you noticed when
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  Speaker 1: Miss Malone is speaking it sounds as if Honey is
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  Speaker 1: still alive? What does that mean? What is that? And
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  Speaker 1: don't tell me there's something wrong with us, doctor Bethany. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know Nancy because she is alive and her heart
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  Speaker 1: and in her mind, in her memories. And Miss Malone
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  Speaker 1: loved Honey. And I saw that picture too of Honey.
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  Speaker 1: She had the blue nails, she had the jeans on,
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  Speaker 1: she's kind of posed like a model. She is such
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  Speaker 1: a gorgeous girl. And the day that she left her
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  Speaker 1: mother's house, she had worked a long ship. She'd gotten
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  Speaker 1: her nails done. This was a young woman with her
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  Speaker 1: whole life ahead of her, who was leading such a
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  Speaker 1: good life. Do you know how many eighteen year olds
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  Speaker 1: don't want to work and this girl went out and
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  Speaker 1: was working and was supporting herself and taking care of herself.
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  Speaker 1: I would say that her mother speaks of her in
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  Speaker 1: the present tense because she is alive. Her mother's has
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  Speaker 1: kept her alive in memory. You have kept her alive.
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  Speaker 1: We have kept her alive, Cheryl McCallum. She is active
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  Speaker 1: in all of our minds. We are all attached to
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  Speaker 1: her and engaged with her beyond the grave because she
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  Speaker 1: is meaningful to us, and her mother has done what
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  Speaker 1: every victim of crime should do. She has made meaning
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  Speaker 1: out of this situation, and hopefully this helps other victims
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  Speaker 1: to keep the memories of their loved ones a life too.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Farrel. Are you just joining us?
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  Speaker 1: We are bringing you breaking news and the sudden and
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  Speaker 1: shocking death a beautiful eighteen year old girl, Honey Malone.
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  Speaker 1: What happened? How does a gorgeous eighteen year old girl
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  Speaker 1: world in front of her living at home with mom,
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  Speaker 1: having a job, continuing with school, How does she end
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  Speaker 1: up dead in a closet. Dead in a closet. Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at CBS forty six CSI Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: This is special guest host Karen Grier. She was found
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  Speaker 1: in a bedroom closet, shot once in the back and
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  Speaker 1: again her chest. We're talking about broad people that had
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  Speaker 1: weapons in the apartment, and she was the lease of
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  Speaker 1: the threat, and she was the one murder. I just
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  Speaker 1: I can't wrap my head around that her two friends,
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  Speaker 1: a man and a woman, had been tied up in
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom by an unknown number of masked men with
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  Speaker 1: guns who had kicked down their door. But why was
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  Speaker 1: Honey the only one harmed? No one? No one was
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  Speaker 1: pissed a whip, nobody was stabbed, nobody. Her family believes
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  Speaker 1: Honey's friends truly know what happened and possibly played a
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  Speaker 1: part in her death. I just want to sleep. Police
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  Speaker 1: remained tight lipped about the investigation. We need answer. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to wake up and hear the phone. Range
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  Speaker 1: detective called me in and say him, got him. This
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  Speaker 1: is what happened. Guys, you're hearing our friend Karen Greer
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  Speaker 1: CSI Atlanta podcast and joining me right now. Is Karen Greer,
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  Speaker 1: along with my longtime colleague, director of the Cold Case
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  Speaker 1: Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum. Karen Greer, you and Cheryl have
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  Speaker 1: been on this case since the beginning, and it has
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  Speaker 1: taken a really long time to crack. I want to
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  Speaker 1: go back to that night because so many things are
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  Speaker 1: wrong for me with what I'm hearing about the crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: It's not fitting together. And when it's not fitting together,
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  Speaker 1: that means I'm missing a piece of the puzzle, or
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  Speaker 1: somebody's lying. For a girl like Honey Malone to end
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  Speaker 1: up dad in a closet in an apartment where some
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  Speaker 1: of her friends have been masked men. That sounds like
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  Speaker 1: it's out of a movie and made up drama. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me what you recall, Karen, regarding the night, what you
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  Speaker 1: have learned about the all right, that Honey Malone, eighteen
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  Speaker 1: year old innocent girl ends up dead gunshot wounds in
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  Speaker 1: a closet. Carol, you know we've talked about saf Sheryl
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  Speaker 1: and I walked to that crime scene. We went from
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  Speaker 1: you know, where Honey's house was, to the apartment where
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  Speaker 1: she lost her life. None of this made them. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've got children too. You talk about the twins, you know,
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  Speaker 1: minor now twenty one and twenty four, and I can't
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  Speaker 1: imagine them showing up at a friend's apartment and then
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  Speaker 1: being tied up the friends supposedly and she's killed. No
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  Speaker 1: one else in the apartment was hurt. They were just
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  Speaker 1: supposedly tied up. Who whoa whoa right there, caring career,
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  Speaker 1: you're sounding like, oh, they were in the kitchen have
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  Speaker 1: a pizza, but you're saying, oh, they were tied up
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  Speaker 1: in another room. No, that's not normal. And for Flora Malone,
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  Speaker 1: her daughter says, I'm gonna go outside. That's like John
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  Speaker 1: David Saint, Mom, can I get ride my bi or Ken?
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  Speaker 1: Can't we come over? We go ride our bikes and
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine. You don't expect to hear shots ring out
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  Speaker 1: and then the friends end up in a closet. She's
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  Speaker 1: in a closet and they're in another room tied up, Karen,
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  Speaker 1: and you never hear anything from police. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: story just from the beginning just had too many holes.
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  Speaker 1: She's sitting there waiting for a beautiful daughter to come
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  Speaker 1: back home, worried because she did hear loud noises. Never
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  Speaker 1: do police knock on her door to tell her something happened.
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  Speaker 1: Someone else told her, supposed friend told her. I really, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's an important fact, Cheryl McCollum. When a friend knows
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  Speaker 1: your daughter has been killed before the cops know, there's
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  Speaker 1: something way wrong with that scenario, with that timeline, way in,
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum. There is something all with that townline. The
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  Speaker 1: friend did not even live in so mountains of town,
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  Speaker 1: but he was in the vicinity, which is questionable, and
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  Speaker 1: he knew that Honey had been shot. He told her specifically,
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  Speaker 1: and at this point the police had not even a
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  Speaker 1: difficult Well to me, that makes him a witness or
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  Speaker 1: a suspect. Right there, somebody comes to your door before
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  Speaker 1: police even know what happened. The word hasn't gotten around
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  Speaker 1: the neighborhood. And there, Oh yeah, ma'am, Honey has been shot.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to you, Floram alone. Do you recall when
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  Speaker 1: that happened, when the friend came to the door and
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  Speaker 1: told you Honey had been shot. He came to the door,
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  Speaker 1: but the police is already at the apartment. But the
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  Speaker 1: police never told me who it was. But I'm guessing
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  Speaker 1: that the people that was in the apartment told him
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  Speaker 1: it was Honey because he came to the door and
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  Speaker 1: he said, Honey's gone. I'm still very suspicious. Why would
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  Speaker 1: he Why would the friends tell him and they don't
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  Speaker 1: tell the police. Cassandra Kennedy is with me. This is
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  Speaker 1: Honey Malone's sister, Cassandra. What do you remember of that night?
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  Speaker 1: I ended up going to work that full day open
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  Speaker 1: a close at them all, and when I got back,
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  Speaker 1: jumped in a shower as usual. Mom called me. It
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  Speaker 1: may have been ten thirty, ten forty five, and she's
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  Speaker 1: crying hysterically, and I'm like, oh my god, Mom, was wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Was wrong? Was wrong? She's like, I think my worst
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  Speaker 1: nightmare has happened. And I'm like, what, Just say what
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  Speaker 1: it is. She was like, I think Vanessa was shot
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  Speaker 1: or something. I don't even remember the exact words, but
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  Speaker 1: I hung up so fast. I hung up so fast.
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  Speaker 1: I sped to her house. It's like a thirty minute drive.
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  Speaker 1: It probably took twenty. And I sat with my mom
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  Speaker 1: until I got there, maybe at eleven thirty. We didn't
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  Speaker 1: find out. They didn't confirm to us that it was
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  Speaker 1: two fifty at two fifteen, that it was Vanessa. So
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  Speaker 1: it was a torturous timeline from that shot to us
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  Speaker 1: find an out. It was Vanessa, it was it was unbelievable,
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  Speaker 1: you know. To Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red
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  Speaker 1: Flags on Amazon, Wendy, it's interesting to me, and I've
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  Speaker 1: heard this from so many victims, and I guess looking back,
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  Speaker 1: I experienced it myself and still do. When regular people
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  Speaker 1: find out someone in your family has been murdered, they
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  Speaker 1: think somehow that that reflects on you, that it would
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  Speaker 1: never happen to them, that you're somehow of a lower
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  Speaker 1: class because your crime victim. You just have a certain stigma.
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  Speaker 1: I can't really put my finger on it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know the right word to say it, but I remember
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  Speaker 1: speaking with Chucky Mak's mom after her Chucky had been murdered,
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  Speaker 1: and she said people would say things like, well, a
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  Speaker 1: good mom wouldn't have let him go ride his bike.
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  Speaker 1: They somehow treat you different, as if it could never
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  Speaker 1: happen to them, and somehow, because you're you, it happened
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  Speaker 1: to you. Have you ever, I can't describe it, Wendy,
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  Speaker 1: what is that? Yeah? You know, Nancy, I've experienced it
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  Speaker 1: as well, and It's one of those things that unless
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  Speaker 1: you're actually in the scenario, it's really hard to put
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  Speaker 1: into words. I know our psychology guests probably can probably
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  Speaker 1: do it very well also, but when it actually happens
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  Speaker 1: to you, it's not fair. It's like people don't know
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  Speaker 1: what to say, and so it's almost like they assume
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  Speaker 1: the worst and they wonder some kind of guilt by association.
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  Speaker 1: And we're talking about crime victims, and I mean, I've
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  Speaker 1: been listening and watching. I know more about Honey than
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  Speaker 1: I think many of our listeners because I've spent so
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  Speaker 1: much time actually learning about her as a person and
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  Speaker 1: the loving family she comes from, and it is unimaginable
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  Speaker 1: that they've had to be retraumatized, as you mentioned Nancy
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  Speaker 1: simply by virtue of having a beloved daughter be the
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  Speaker 1: victim of this type of crime. And I joined many
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  Speaker 1: of our listeners and viewers across the world and being
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  Speaker 1: just so thankful that there's finally been an arrest made.
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  Speaker 1: We can't bring back Honey, but maybe we can bring
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  Speaker 1: finally the adjuster, Yeah, to justice. I want to cut
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  Speaker 1: up to what you were saying about her family, Miss Malone.
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  Speaker 1: How many children do you have I have the two girls,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: and both of them, which is really perfect from a parents'
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: point of view, got through school, went out and got jobs.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: They're physically beautiful. You live in a nice apartment area.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: It's not like it's a high crime area. Nothing like that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Guys, we are talking about
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the sudden death of Honey Malone, murdered an eighteen year
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: old girl who just went outside in her condo complex.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: That apartment's a condo complex, and the next thing you know, Mom,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: here's a knock knock at the door and finds out
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: her teen girl who has never been in trouble at all, beautiful, responsible, educated,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: everything is dead. To doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining us
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: out of Beverly Heels, what is that stigma that crime victims'
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: families bear, like somehow you're in a rotten class of
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: people because you're hanging around thugs and criminals. That's not
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: what happens, Nancy, It's not what happened at all. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: was thinking, actually beyond the stigma when you were talking
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: about this, to the fact that when you are a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: parent and you know, because you've had the twins and
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: they're almost thirteen years old. Your primary job is to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: keep your children safe, right, that is your job. Of course,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you're going to educate them, nurture them, feed them, you know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: provide everything for them so they have a great life.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: But do you remember when those twins were little, if
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: they so much as scraped a knee, you would feel guilty,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: like you caused it to happen. Or if they fell over,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you would think, oh, I'm a bad mom. We call
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it omnipotent guilt, the belief that you're all powerful and
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: therefore any bad thing that happens to your child is
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: all your fault. Jathane, can I tell you a little
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: known story. I was in CNN Center. The twins were
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: with me. We're about to go to air. I had
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: left something in my office. I handed the twin to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a producer, a female producer. Both of them. One was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: sitting on the floor plight, the other I was holding.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I gave it was John David to her. I ran
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to my office. I said, be careful with the water bottle,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: don't let them get near the cat in to my office.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I came back and guess what. John David had swallowed
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the water cat and all stuff right there. You know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my God reached my hand down in his mouth
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and fished it out immediately he couldn't breathe. Long story short,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I still think about that today. It's traumatic this day,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: even though he is twelve. When I give him a drink,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I hould a cat. Yes, I still blame myself. And
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: can you imagine what Honey's mom has been thrown? So, Nancy,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I don't want to betray your confidentiality, so I won't
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: tell you the specifics. But right after the twins were born,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I remember you pulled me aside on set and you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: told me you had all these fears of bad things
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: happening to them. And I'll never forget the stories you
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: told me. As if again, the smallest little thing would
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: be your fault. So imagine you give your child permission
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to go visit a friend's house, or go for a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: walk or something to nine and then they're murder? How
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: did that disrupt the very fabric of her psyche of parenthood?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And speaking of trauma, you know, trauma is when there's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: a sudden, unparticipated, horrible event for which there's no prior learning,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: meaning nothing in your life has prepared you for this. Nothing, nothing,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: nothing has thought you had a cope, Well, brace yourself.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I hope everybody's sitting down for this. Take a listen
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to our friends. Julia Reynolds at Fox five News. I'll
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: do whatever it takes because she is my baby. Floram
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Malone says she's offering a reward for information about her
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: daughter's murder. She's only eighteen years old. Head dreams she
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: had a family who loved her, friends who loved her.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Eighteen year old Vanessa Malone, called Honey by family and friends,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: was shot several times. After police day she interrupted an
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: armed robbery at this apartment complex. It happened seventeen days ago.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: This homicide is our top priority in the office right now.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: We're working in at every different angle possible. We really
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: need help from the community. Detective Lynn Schuller says, Honey
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Malone walked in on four to six men who tied
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: up three people inside and were armed with semi automatic weapons.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And the three victims that we had tied up in
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the bathroom all heard her come in and then they
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: heard the shots. So it appears that she was just
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: at the wrong place at the wrong time, wrong place,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: wrong time. How many times have we heard that, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: then everything went silent. Any neighbors or actors or players
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: or witnesses afraid they would be killed two if they
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: came forward. Take a listen to Fox five. Well, police
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: are following leads. They're not sure they will pan out
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and say this case may hinge on people in the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: community calling in anonymously. People over there know what happened.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: We just need somebody to come forward and let us know.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Pep down. They have to have a heart someplace. They
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: have to not think that it is right for these
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: people to be out on the street thinking that they
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: can just have fun and play their video games and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: go hang out at the mall. Honey Malone's friends are
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: also seeking justice and are continuing their social media campaign
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: for information. Their Facebook page, called rip Honey, has generated
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: more than one hundred and twenty five thousand followers. But
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the months pass and still no resolution. Honey's mother, Flora,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: seeks out help from the Cold Case Research Institute Cheryl McCollough.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend Anna Garcia, a Crime
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Watch Daily. Cops believe Honey stumbled upon an armed robbery.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I believe it was a home invasion robbery with the
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: main purpose to steal the drugs and the money out
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of that apartment. Invasion maybe an understatement. Honey's friends who
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: were in the apartment told cops between three and six
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: men with guns kicked down the door. They claimed they
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: were beaten and tied up with a belt in the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: cord of an electric razor and herded into the shower,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and then gunshots pierced the night. Honey was shot once
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: at the back, a second shot to the chest, the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: bullet plunging straight through her heart while the robbers were
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: ransacked in the apartment. I believe Honey walked in and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: when she turned to leave, that's when she was shot.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: When she turned to leave. Yes, so you think she
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: was trying to get out of there when she was shot,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Yes to Cheryl mccollin, director Cold Case Research Institute for
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: insuc's expert tell me about the scene. Tell me, because
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I find it really hard to believe that three people
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: tied up in the bathtub know nothing, armed intruders nobody
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: can identify. Then Honey, who's just leaving her mom's condo
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to go gousit her friend walks in the door as
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: she's gunned down what does the scene tell you? Cheryl McCall,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I'm a honey is shot in the living room of
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a one bedroom apartment in the back, Nancy. She is
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: then drug through the apartment, leaving a trail of blood
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: where she is thrown in the closet of the master's
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: bedroom where she's shot. Wait wait, wait where based on
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the trail of blood, where was she shot? Right by
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the front door, trying to leave in the back? Okay,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: so that's where the theory is coming from. That she
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: came in, she tried to leave, hence the shot in
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the back, and that's where the blood trail starts. Got it,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: go ahead. When she's in the closet, she has shot
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: a second time in the chest. Now to me, that
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: means they're making sure where she is not going to survive.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Then they steal her cell phone and leave the apartment,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: leaving the two alleged victims caught up in the bathroom unharmed.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: They weren't slapped, they weren't kicks, they weren't pumped, they
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: weren't even threatened. They were just put in the back room. Yeah,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I don't like it. Karen Career with Me, investigative reporter,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: News anchor at CBS forty six Atlanta and host of
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: CSI Atlanta, which we're linking to at crime online dot com,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: so you can find out about that as well. Karen Greer,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. If they're masked, why did they
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: have to shoot Vanessa Honey Malone when the others were
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: just tied up and left in the bathroom. They saw
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the same thing Honey did. So why did they live
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and Honey had to be shot dead? Is there a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: chance the one supposedly tied up in the bathroom or not?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I just heard that, Karen. Karen Greer says, supposedly tied up,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it just does not make sense. They're three
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to six, four to six. The numbers don't even add up.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Nothing about what was told the police is the same.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: And to have these people tied up with I think
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it was twist ties in one paw are a belt?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Um some kind of cable? My cat could get out
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of a belt. Okay, tied up with a belt? I
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: am not abide why they lived, Karen Grier and Honey
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: had to be shot dead. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: we were talking about a sudden break in the case
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: in the murder of a beautiful young girl in Atlanta
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: native Honey Malone. Take a listen to our friend's crime watch.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Deli correspondent Anna Garcia Flora and honey sister Cassandra believe
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Honey was lured to the apartment to silence her. Why
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: don't you believe that she walked into a robbery? I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: believe that they thought she knew something or saw something
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and was worried that she was gonna tell. She wouldn't
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: just walk into a kicked indoor to see what happened.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: That's not her. So you think his whole home invasion
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: robbery theory is what I set up to make it
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: look like it was a robbery so they can get off.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: One troubling question, why was Honey's cell phone found far
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: away from the murder scene. We tracked her cell phone
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: after the murder to a location about a half mile away,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: where it stayed there until it died. So how did
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Honey's cell phone end up half a mile away stolen
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: during the incident? Why would they take her cell phone?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: They've already killed her. What do they need her cell
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: phone for? Thinking that maybe she could call for help? No,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: they're just easy to resell on the street. But Honey's
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: family doesn't buy that explanation. I don't buy it either.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Karen Career, CBS forty six Atlanta and news anchor host
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of c S I Atlanta. Karen, that was an excellent point.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: This girl would never go into an apartment with the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: door already kicked in, wouldn't happen. I think the people
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: in the bathtub are all lying about what happened, which
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: makes me wonder why why would they lie about it,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: unless somehow they were part of something much more nefarious.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Karen Greer helped me understand the scenario. I know when
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: talking to Flora, I remember her saying Honey was tired,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: she was going to lay down, she was resting in
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: her room. Then she got a phone call, then she said, Mom,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back. So I believe that story that
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: she was lord there and once she got there, everyone
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: appeared to be against her. She was the one that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: was glutally murdered, and then all of her supposed friends,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: alleged friends, kind of turned I knew nothing and just
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: left her there to die. It's the worst story you
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: can ever amass. What could she possibly have seen? This
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: girl has never even been stopped as a juvenile for jaywalking.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: For Pete's sake, she's every parent's dream as opposed to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a nightmare. You know, Cheryl McCollum, I tell my twins
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: all the time, listen, even if somebody at school, because
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: they're a students. I want that a Cheryl. I feel
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: like I deserve those a's as much tutoring as I do.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: But I say, don't even let anybody look at your paper,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: because if somebody cheats off you, you're going to be
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the one they get kicked out. Both of you. You'll
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: boil in the same pot. In other words, your friends
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: that you make. This young girl, Vanessa Honey Malone, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: think went to go see friends and it turned They
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: all turned on her because they were part of something nefarious. Absolutely,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind she was Luis there.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: The only thing stolen from that apartment that night was
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Honey's cell phone and her life. I want to go
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: back to Honey's mother, Flora Malone, and her sister, Cassandra Kennedy,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Miss Malone, and her whole life. Your daughter had never
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: once been in any trouble. She was a great student.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: She had a job. I don't want to hear their names.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: But who were these friends? Were they school friends, neighborhood friends?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Who were they? Well, I've never met any of them,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: but I'm I'm hearing that she liked to go over
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: there and play cards and listen to music and hang
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: out because she considered them friends. You know what's interesting
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: to Wendy Patrick, how many times did I prosecute a
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: case whether there be four teens and a stolen car,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and that I'll say it's not my car, and then
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the driver it would be their car, and the other
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: teams are caught in the same mess and they all
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: get charged. Who you hang out with, it's not your fault.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: You don't always know who you're hanging out with, Wendy.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: It's so true. It's why we tell our kids, show
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: me your friends, and I'll show you your future. We
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: really are guilty by association in the eyes sometimes of
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: law enforcement of the community. And that is why when
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: we're warming up a cold case like this, talking about
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: who is socializing with who, it is imperative. And I'm
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: so pleased that you that honey had such a loving
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: mother and sister that are able to show us who
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: she really was, so we can actually know that. You know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor and author. Even when John David
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: is playing his games online, I get right up in
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the picture and see who he's on with. If there's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: not a pitch, I'm like, who is that? Who is that?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Let me hear their voice. I know it drives him crazy,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: but I want to know this girl had never once
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: been in trouble. To Cheryl McCollum, I'm not buying anything
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: they're saying about the crime scene. I don't think the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: people were tied up and put in the bathtub. I think,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: like you and Karen Greer do, that she was lured
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: there because somehow she had seen or knew something had
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: gone on, as she had to be gotten rid of
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: taking listen guys. In the last hours, a major break
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: in the case and arrest has been made in the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: murder of Honey Malone. This good news comes with mixed
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: emotions for Honey's family. They spoke exclusively to me about
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: how they're dealing with all of this. I want to
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: wake up and hear the phone ringing. Detective called me
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: in and say we got him, We got him. Flora
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Malone got that call just three months after this interview,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to Cap County Police making an arrest in the twenty
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: twelve murder of her eighteen year old daughter, Vanessa Honey
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Malone to a shot to death inside her friend's Stone
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Mountain apartment. They drug a trail of blood of my
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: sister on the carpet and put her in the closet.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: After years of frustration and grief, justice finally feels insight
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: for Flora and her daughter. Cassandra. Just grateful that I'm
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: alive to see this coming, because I'm worried about that sometimes.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: The Cap County Police arresting thirty five year old Donald
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Lash Friday at his mother's home in Stone Mountain. We
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: do believe that multiple people are responsible for this crime,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and the investigation is ongoing. We hope more arrests will follow.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: You are hearing the police speaking out on the arrest
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: that has just happened a thirty five year old Donald
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Ash to Karen Greer, CBS forty six, Atlanta anchor and
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: host of CSI Atlanta podcast, Karen Greer, who is this guy,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: thirty five year old Donald Ash? What did he have
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: to do with this young girl? Interesting that he seemed
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to know everybody involved in all of this. Interesting note,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Flora and Cassandra were no strangers to this gentleman, so
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: this could be very interesting to see if in fact
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: he's gonna turn into the other people who might have
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: been in that apartment or who were in that apartment
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: when he was there when Honey was killed. Flora Malone,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: do you know Donald ashe he's never agreed to meet
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: with us. Me and Cassandra had tried several times over
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the years. Cassandra, did you know this guy before Honey
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: was killed? No, okay, so you did not know him.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, who is this guy? And can't we make
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: him roll over on the everybody else in that apartment? Well,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: they knew him by a nickname, so he went by Mercy,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: so they knew of him, and he was the apartment
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: earlier in the day, but he left before law enforce
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: has showed up. The person he was meeting at the apartment.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: They also are aware of and know of this person
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and he goes by Yaps. So yes, absolutely law enforcement
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: has got to go back and reinterview these people. And
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I've made it very very clear. The first one that
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: talks gets the deal. So somebody needs a role on somebody. Oh,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: they will, they will. To Flora Malone and Cassanga Kennedy,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I'm so relieved that at least one arrest has been made.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Flora Malone, Honey's mother, what is your message to everybody
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: else that was in that apartment and had anything to
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: do with your daughter's death. My advice to anybody who
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: even knows what happened is go ahead and say no.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Because I don't know who else is going to be
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: charged or what the church will be, but I know
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: they would feel better if they could get this off
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: their chest. They have to to Cheryl McCollum direct to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Cold Case Research Institute. For any people that have information
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: that are willing to come forward, where can they call?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: They need to call the Cab County Police, or if
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: they don't want to call the police, they can certainly
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: call you know, channel forty six CBS. They can call
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Crime Stoppers. There's a plethora of people they can
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: call with information and it's imperative they do so. They
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: can even leave a message on honey Facebook page. Karen Greer,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: tell me the number that you guys have that anyone
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: with information can dial four zero four three two seven
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: three thousand four zero four three two seven three thousand,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and you can even send us an email at CBS
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Atlanta forty six dot com. We do get a lot
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of anonymous tips, and I will say Sherlin and I
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: have been looking through some tips that people have been
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  Speaker 1: sending us for weeks, so we try to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that law enforcement gets a hold of those and that
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  Speaker 1: any leads that we may get are followed. For right now,
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  Speaker 1: a major break in the murder of this eighteen year
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  Speaker 1: old girl scrubbed in Sunshine Vanessa Honey Malone. But it's
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  Speaker 1: ain't over yet. Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off Goodbye friend,