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Best of Nancy Grace: Sex-Starved Female Lawyer Murders 3 Sleeping Victims for Jail House Lover · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, A triple homicide. In all
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  Speaker 1: my years of prosecuting, I've only had a handful of
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  Speaker 1: triple homicides to investigate and take to trial. And I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you why they all go to trial, Because
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  Speaker 1: who's going to sign up for either the death penalty
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  Speaker 1: or three consecutive life sentences one after the next. It
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  Speaker 1: might as well roll the dice and hope they get
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  Speaker 1: a weak jury. But think about it, a triple homicide.
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  Speaker 1: A single homicide crime scene is awful enough, devastating, jarring,
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  Speaker 1: it sticks with you forever. But a triple homicide, especially
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  Speaker 1: under these circumstances. IMC. Grace, this is Crime Stories, Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Fox Nation in
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  Speaker 1: series XM one eleven. A triple homicide. But what if anything,
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  Speaker 1: does sex have to deal with it? First of all,
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  Speaker 1: take a listen to this tonight. We begin with breaking
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  Speaker 1: news out of Oldmolgi County. The Sheriff's office is investigating
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  Speaker 1: a triple homicide north of Begs two works for Youse.
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  Speaker 1: Tatiana Taylor is on the scene with the latest information. Tatiana,
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  Speaker 1: it's still an active scene right now. I'm here about
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  Speaker 1: a mile away from the home where three people were
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  Speaker 1: found dead. Police are still behind me blocking the road
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  Speaker 1: and right now. Information is still scarce at this time,
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  Speaker 1: but sheriff deputies tell us it happened around three this
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  Speaker 1: afternoon in a rural neighborhood north of Begs on Lake
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  Speaker 1: Ridge Drive. At this time, we don't know the cause
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  Speaker 1: of deaths or the three victims names. The triple homicide
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  Speaker 1: is still being investigate it, but we will continue to
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  Speaker 1: keep you updated online as we received more information about
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  Speaker 1: what happened today. Hearing just that bit of information is
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  Speaker 1: setting off all sorts of alarms in my head, red
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  Speaker 1: flags waving at me like I'm a bull at a stadium.
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  Speaker 1: The matador would be the killer with me. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: start panel making sense of what we know right now.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, high profile lawyer joining us from Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: Dale Carson. He's not just a lawyer, he's a former
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  Speaker 1: FED with the FBI and he's an author of Arrest
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  Speaker 1: Proof Yourself. You can find him at Dale Carson Law
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Jerry Krossen, Psychologists Faculty, Saint Leo University,
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  Speaker 1: consultant with the Blue Wall Institute and author of Operation
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  Speaker 1: s O S. Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University,
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  Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and start
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  Speaker 1: of a new hit series, Bodybags. That just Scott Morgan
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  Speaker 1: on iHeart Dale Carson, Am I wrong? Or were all
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  Speaker 1: three of the victims, who are all adults, they were
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  Speaker 1: all asleep? Correct? That's right. They were asleep until the
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  Speaker 1: rounds started going off and then they pushed. Two of
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  Speaker 1: them tried to hide in clausets in order to protect themselves,
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  Speaker 1: and one probably couldn't do anything. Guys, take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to our France akfo R News four. Investigators say two
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  Speaker 1: mass suspects were seen on security cameras outside the rural home.
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  Speaker 1: Minutes later, the electricity is cut. Reports say while the
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  Speaker 1: family slept, suspects kicked in the door and shot them
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  Speaker 1: to death one by one. Documents say Evelyn Chandler suffered
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  Speaker 1: mentally and physically before the sixty nine year old was
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  Speaker 1: shot to death as the suspects quote began firing gunshots,
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  Speaker 1: striking and killing her husband, Jack Randall Chandler, as she
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  Speaker 1: attempted to hide from the intruders, seeking refuge in her closet.
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  Speaker 1: I Corps was also tortured and abused before she was killed.
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  Speaker 1: Because the forty three year old quote herd intruders entered
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  Speaker 1: the home she shared with her parents and began firing gunshots,
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  Speaker 1: striking and killing her parents. The dichotomy of such a
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  Speaker 1: brutal triple homicide and such a rural area seemingly with
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  Speaker 1: low crime is very disturbing To leave my page Where
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  Speaker 1: exactly exactly is Beg's, Oklahoma? So Beg's, Oklahoma is a
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  Speaker 1: small town in Oklamolte County, Oklahoma, and that is about
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  Speaker 1: an hour and a half east of Oklahoma City, So
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  Speaker 1: the nearest big city is an hour and a half away.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a very small town, very quiet, not
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  Speaker 1: something where you would see these horrific triple homicides occur regularly.
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  Speaker 1: Someone coming in in the middle of the night at
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  Speaker 1: three am, when they know everybody is asleep, kicking in
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  Speaker 1: the door and opening fire. To Levipage Crime online dot
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  Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, I have not learned anything about a theft,
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  Speaker 1: a burglary, a robbery, or a sex crime. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 1: You're correct, Nancy. The only evidence was that the door
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  Speaker 1: of the home was kicked in. We know that there
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  Speaker 1: was a ballcap left at the scene, but there was
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  Speaker 1: nothing stolen. Shell casings indicated that it was by two
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  Speaker 1: different weapons, and that's all that investigators had when they
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  Speaker 1: discovered this horrific murder scene. You're giving me a flashback
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  Speaker 1: LEVI page. You said a single ball cap was found
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  Speaker 1: at the same What kind of ball cap? We don't
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  Speaker 1: know what kind it was. We just know that a
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  Speaker 1: cap looked like a mail cap was left at the
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  Speaker 1: scene in the driveway. Cap left at sane in driveway.
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  Speaker 1: You know Del Carson, high profile lawyer joining us out
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  Speaker 1: of Jacksonville. It reminds me very much of a case
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  Speaker 1: that I had to retry. The original case occurred when
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  Speaker 1: I was in law school. The murderer and the attempted
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  Speaker 1: murder and rape, and by the time I had graduated
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  Speaker 1: law school, been a fed for three years, got finally
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  Speaker 1: with the DA's office and had prosecuted for a year
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  Speaker 1: or so. I was asked to retry the case. It
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  Speaker 1: was reversed on appeal and sent back down for a
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  Speaker 1: retrial by the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. All we
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  Speaker 1: had was and when I tried to find in the
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  Speaker 1: evidence room the property that was left behind from the case,
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  Speaker 1: we had one X ray and one baseball cap that
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  Speaker 1: said kiss My Bass. That cap later became very, very
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  Speaker 1: important because a guy had been spotted with a stolen
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  Speaker 1: ATM card nearby on the video wearing the kiss My
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  Speaker 1: Bass hat, and then the hat was found at the
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  Speaker 1: scene just like this. So Del Carson, a baseball cap
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  Speaker 1: may seem unimportant or innocuous, but in cases like these,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta triple homicide. You don't have a rape, You're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna get DNA. Nothing was stolen, so it's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be hopped, and you'll trace them through a pawn shop.
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  Speaker 1: That hat could be very important. I mean, how do
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  Speaker 1: I know it's not going to be on a McDonald's
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  Speaker 1: drive through video thirty minutes before one of the twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hour ones if there's one in the area. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who knows what you can learn from that hat? Well?
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  Speaker 1: And more than that, today we get DNA from the
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  Speaker 1: sweat band of the hat. And here is another critical point.
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  Speaker 1: Someone tried to remove the rounds that were fired to
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  Speaker 1: kill these people, put them in a hat and the
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  Speaker 1: like many criminals left it at the scene when they're
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  Speaker 1: in a rushed apart. So that's all part of this.
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  Speaker 1: Why would they try to hide the kind of rounds
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  Speaker 1: that were used by taking the cations with them. Why
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  Speaker 1: did that happen? And you know, Joe Scott Morgan enter
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  Speaker 1: the scene, Joe Scott, because that is what you and
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  Speaker 1: I love to dissect, is staging. Why would someone gather
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  Speaker 1: up the shell case? Yeah, and that is because they
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  Speaker 1: are specific identifiers. And let me tell you what calibers were, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: We've got what is called a five point five six
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  Speaker 1: millimeter round which is fired generally from what's referred to
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  Speaker 1: as an M four platform, which is kind of a
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  Speaker 1: military weapon that our troops use, high velocity round. And
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  Speaker 1: then you've got nine millimeter rounds, which are most commonly
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  Speaker 1: fired from a handgun, generally semi automatic. So you've got
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  Speaker 1: these rounds that are being ejected all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the perpetrators would have, first off, they
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  Speaker 1: came prepared. Are a perpetrator, you know, when you've got
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  Speaker 1: two weapons, you want to make sure that you're getting
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  Speaker 1: the job done. Rolled off your tongue. Well that's the
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  Speaker 1: way we you know, unfortunately, as investigators, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: have to inhabit the brains of these people. Many times, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I try not to. And when you know, to Dale's point,
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  Speaker 1: not just DNA, but you know, these shell casings their
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  Speaker 1: brass nancy and so that means that means that they
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  Speaker 1: are a non porous surface. And what can happen is
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  Speaker 1: as these individuals, assuming they're not wearing gloves or picking
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  Speaker 1: up these rounds and spent casings and placing them in
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  Speaker 1: a ballcap for instance, they are actually leaving latent prints
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  Speaker 1: behind on the sides of these casings. So if you
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  Speaker 1: can recover DNA and you can recover recover a latent print,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes that can that can be a winning shot a
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  Speaker 1: grand sleep, either one. Either one of those would work
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  Speaker 1: for me. Now, explained Joe Scott, how you are stating
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  Speaker 1: that fingerprints. I hate to put too much information out
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  Speaker 1: there because now perps you're going to be wiping off
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  Speaker 1: the shelf as they load them or do it with gloves.
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  Speaker 1: But explain how prints can be found on ammo? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: on Ammo particularly, it's it's done. And let me tell you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you see you see these images on the
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  Speaker 1: news and TV shows and whatnot where they're dusting for
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  Speaker 1: prints on surfaces. That's not how this works, not with
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  Speaker 1: rounds like this. What's going to happen is that these
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  Speaker 1: rounds will be carefully packaged and taken back. Whoa wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, m carefully packaged explained? Don't leave anything out?
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  Speaker 1: They mean carefully packaged. How do they do it? When
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to pick up a gunsh a casing or shell,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to mess up the fingerprint that could
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  Speaker 1: be on a partial. No, you don't, and you have
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  Speaker 1: to be very very careful. The upside, the upside with
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  Speaker 1: a if you're trying to recover a spent casing, is
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  Speaker 1: that it actually has a hole where the projectile has
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  Speaker 1: actually come out of. You can pick it up interiorly,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can take like a pencil, or you
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  Speaker 1: can take, for instance, imagine a toilet paper roll. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good point. Yeah, you reach into the spin
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  Speaker 1: cartridge like that and pick it up and you never
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  Speaker 1: have to touch the exterior of the spint casing at all.
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  Speaker 1: So you package it and then once it's sealed up,
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  Speaker 1: maintaining that chain of evidence, as you know, you take
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  Speaker 1: it to the lab and then you process it at
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  Speaker 1: that moment time. Now you can go down two different
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  Speaker 1: roads with this. You can either dust it or uh
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  Speaker 1: you know, famously, we can uh use superglue fuming where
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  Speaker 1: we put it into a case, heat up superglue, and
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  Speaker 1: as that superglue that has essentially clouded up in this
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  Speaker 1: environment begins to settle back down because of gravity, it
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  Speaker 1: will actually fall on to the surface of this brass area.
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  Speaker 1: And remember, fingerprints are generated from what's called fatty lipid
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  Speaker 1: acids on the surface of this brass. And that that
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  Speaker 1: that systomized uh fingerprint, that hisstomized superglue will actually fuse
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  Speaker 1: fuse to the exterior of that brass and it will
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  Speaker 1: stay there forever and ever. Amen, you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of it. And you can actually appreciate the
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  Speaker 1: ridge detail you're saying. And this is the math that
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to ammunition, which is so small, and
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  Speaker 1: you've got a chance of getting a partial print, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: partial which would still work. Yeah, I mean, hey, it's
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  Speaker 1: better than nothing. You can get a partial print off
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  Speaker 1: that tiny piece of evidence. Absolutely advise the superglue method,
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  Speaker 1: which means you put the bullets into a closed container
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  Speaker 1: with a superglue opened and the chemicals of a superglue
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  Speaker 1: attached to to my understanding, the human oils from the
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  Speaker 1: fingers still on the m O. It sticks to it.
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  Speaker 1: It will never come off. Superglue will never come off.
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  Speaker 1: And then you take it out with a pair of
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  Speaker 1: tweezers and you can get that partial print. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that incredible? Yes, it is and it will stay
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  Speaker 1: there forever and ever. Amen. And you know how many
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  Speaker 1: times have you and I been to evidence rooms that
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  Speaker 1: are just so funky and nasty and dirty, and you
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  Speaker 1: lose evidence in those environments with the supergluing, it binds.
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  Speaker 1: It's a binder that time stories with Nancy Grace, Well,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about casings found in this cap other things
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  Speaker 1: found at the scene of a triple homicide. The victims
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  Speaker 1: Tiffany Icr. Jack Chandler, and Evelyn Chandler, Tiffany's parents, they're
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  Speaker 1: all dead. Take a listen to our phras at Kate
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  Speaker 1: j R. H Deputies were called to a home on
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  Speaker 1: Lake U Circle Road in Banks after a relative found
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  Speaker 1: the bodies of Jack Chandler, his wife Kay, and their
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  Speaker 1: daughter Tiffany I Corps. All three victims had been shot
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  Speaker 1: multiple times with at least two different caliber of weapons.
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  Speaker 1: It was those shell casings and DNA found in a
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  Speaker 1: cap at the scene that helped investigators build their case.
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  Speaker 1: In further processing of a crime scene, it was discovered
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  Speaker 1: that the residence was equipped with a digital video surveillance system.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators say the video showed two people arrived parking the road,
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  Speaker 1: then walked to the house doctor Jory Crass and psychologists
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  Speaker 1: faculty Saint Leo University, author consultant, doctor Jory multiple shots
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  Speaker 1: on each victim, two assailants. No, this was not about rate,
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  Speaker 1: This was not about robbery. What do you make of
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  Speaker 1: multiple gunshots on each victim. They don't want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure they were just dead. They wanted to make sure
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  Speaker 1: they were dead three or four times over. Yeah, looking
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  Speaker 1: at the behavior, you know, this is definitely a planned attack,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, and it's a family, so one of
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  Speaker 1: them or all of them had some connection to this behavior.
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  Speaker 1: The interesting thing with those two shots is that the
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  Speaker 1: main connection to the triple homicide perps. I wouldn't really
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  Speaker 1: call that behavior, but go ahead, well that's the way psychologically.
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  Speaker 1: I look at everything as behavior because okay, the manifestation
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  Speaker 1: of their psychological mindset. Okay, going along with that, we're
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  Speaker 1: both individuals. The two shooters. They both contributed in each body. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so they're both responsible for deaths or attacks. So there
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  Speaker 1: was a commitment some kind of bond between these two assailants. Two. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: so a bond between the two assailants the killers add
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  Speaker 1: a connection to at least one of the three dead people,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, just common sense, they're not going to
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  Speaker 1: go in and shoot one person and then be identified
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  Speaker 1: by the other two. And we heard it the other
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  Speaker 1: two could be just collateral damage that have to be eliminated, right,
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  Speaker 1: And we also heard that one of the victims heard
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  Speaker 1: the gunshots and tried to go hide in the closet.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, doctor Jerry Cross. And it's everybody's nightmare that
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  Speaker 1: you're your family's under attack and you're somebody's hiding in
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  Speaker 1: the closet and then they open the closet door. It's
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  Speaker 1: straight out of a horror film. Yes, I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: the mail would be the first subject to be taken
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  Speaker 1: out because this was planned. You know, they probably did
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  Speaker 1: some homework on this, knowing who the assailants or who
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  Speaker 1: their victims were, so he would be eliminated first and
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  Speaker 1: then the other two just have to be like you said,
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  Speaker 1: they're witnesses. They've got to be eliminated. Also, Jill Carson,
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  Speaker 1: I heard you jumping in. What is it? I care?
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  Speaker 1: First off, the electricity's off, So these individuals, does your
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  Speaker 1: mind of me of that electricity cut? Go ahead? You know,
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  Speaker 1: then there's delight. So you have to have a players
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  Speaker 1: light if you're going to find those rounds. And if
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  Speaker 1: we know, when you fire a semi automatic weapon, you
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  Speaker 1: don't ever know where those expended cartridge cases were gonna go.
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  Speaker 1: So that means you got a lot of time they
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  Speaker 1: figured this out. They have, and so they can call
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  Speaker 1: around looking for those rounds. As they put in that cap,
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  Speaker 1: it was later discovered because they left it at the scene.
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  Speaker 1: That's really interesting the way you said that, Del Carson.
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  Speaker 1: It's making me think about and analyze what really happened.
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  Speaker 1: Step by step. I imagine they're crawling around looking for
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  Speaker 1: the spent cartis shell and hey, Joe Scott, let me
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  Speaker 1: bring you in because the first time I realized the
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  Speaker 1: significance of the spent shell location, it was the DA
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  Speaker 1: my boss, mister Slayton, longest serving district attorney in the
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  Speaker 1: country at that time. I think it was thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: years loved him deeply, like a grandfather to me. I
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  Speaker 1: heard him call me over the loudspeaker, come to my office.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, so I ran, and I've told you I
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  Speaker 1: specifically turned down a really nice office for one right
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  Speaker 1: by the stairwell, so I didn't want to waste time
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  Speaker 1: going away on an elevation. I ran down the stairwell
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  Speaker 1: to get to his office and he handed me a
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  Speaker 1: file and said, I want you to look into this.
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  Speaker 1: So he said, turned out a friend of his that
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  Speaker 1: he had started law practice with many years before daughter
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  Speaker 1: had committed suicide grown daughter. So I went to the
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  Speaker 1: scene and the medical examiners had taken very they have
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  Speaker 1: their own investigators had taken very careful measurements from the
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  Speaker 1: bed to the shell of cartridge and from the wall.
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  Speaker 1: They were taking very minute measurements. Why to make sure
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  Speaker 1: it was a suicide. Well, it was not a suicide
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  Speaker 1: because at the crime lab, when we put the sheets
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  Speaker 1: up against the light, you could see blood spatter under
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  Speaker 1: her pillow where she was laying when she reported it.
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  Speaker 1: And there's that would be impossible because she's laying on
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  Speaker 1: the pillow. The point is cartridge showcasings can bounce around yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they can't. Yeah, but they can. They can also give
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit of an idea where the shooter
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  Speaker 1: was at the time of the shooting. Yeah, to a
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  Speaker 1: certain degree, you know, to Dale's point, it's real dynamic
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  Speaker 1: in this environment. It depends on what kind of surface
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  Speaker 1: they strike too when they because they can bounce like
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  Speaker 1: like nuts all over the place. And there's one big
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  Speaker 1: linkage here. I think that's real important that Dale brought
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  Speaker 1: up Nancy, and this is striking to me. The electricity
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  Speaker 1: was cut. Yeah, the fact and the fact that the
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  Speaker 1: electricity was cut gives me as an investigator and indication
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  Speaker 1: that whoever felt well, first off, you got to feel
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with taking out the electricity. But secondly, and most importantly,
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  Speaker 1: this idea that the electricity is off means that the
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  Speaker 1: individuals that were involved in this case had a real
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  Speaker 1: level of comfort in this environment that they would be
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  Speaker 1: able to walk in to a darkened environment, unless of
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  Speaker 1: course they've got you know, night vision equipment, which I
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  Speaker 1: doubt they did, and move around in the darkness. That
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  Speaker 1: means that you have to know specifically where you're going,
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  Speaker 1: and in your mind you might even be counting steps. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know where this person's bedroom is. I know where
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  Speaker 1: this person's bedroom is, and you're creeping down the hallway. Now,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of course there maybe they've got flashlights. But again it
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: goes to comfort in this environment, because if you feel
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: real and safe about an environment, what's the first thing
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you do when you walk into a dark area? Yea, guys.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend Abbey Broils kfo R four.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: The murder mystery in Oakmulgee County could be coming down
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to a footprint. On this day, we now know investigators
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: went back inside Harris's home to get a pair of boots.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Officers believed they could match a footprint from the murder scene.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: It's been over a month since Jack and Evelyn Chandler,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: along with their daughter Tiffany Ikorps, were found murdered in
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: their home near Beggs. Talk about forensics a possible boot print,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: but now either blue a bizarre twist. Take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to our cut to kfo R attorney David Bedford, the
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  Speaker 1: former law partner of Kegan Harrows. He told me he
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: had concerns about Harrows and one of her clients and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: took us concerns to the bar Association and District Attorney's
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  Speaker 1: office months ago. David Bedford says investigators from the Ocmulgee
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office came to talk to him on Friday
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: about the triple homicide near Beggs and this woman, attorney
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  Speaker 1: Kegan Harrows. Bedford and Harrows previously had a relationship and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: practice law together. Bedford had concerns about Harrows and her
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend and client, a man with a violent record, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: reported his concerns to the bar and a DA. Her
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  Speaker 1: client is charged in a domestic abuse case in Oklahoma County.
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  Speaker 1: The victim, Tiffany Ikorps Ikorps, and her parents, Jack and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Evelyn Chandler, were found dead inside the Chandler's home September seventh.
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  Speaker 1: Bedford says investigators showed him a video of two people
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  Speaker 1: believed to be involved in the murders. Bedford said he
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: couldn't tell who was in the video. Then, he says,
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  Speaker 1: investigators asked him if they knew where they could find
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Kegan Harrows. Okay, let me understand this, leave page out
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  Speaker 1: of the blue, out of nowhere. After the triple homicides,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: an attorney, David Bedford contacts authorities, and he is concerned
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: about a former law partner, female, Keegan Harrows. He says
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: he was concerned that Harrows was in a relationship, a
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: sex relationship with a bad guy. Barry tied Us the second.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Barry tied Us the second had a domestic case with
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: previous domestic case for he was going to be prosecuted
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  Speaker 1: for beating up to Tiffany Ichorps now dead. Did I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: get that right? Yes, Nancy, you're correct. Tiffany Iicorps one
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of the victims. She was shot, her body riddled with bullets.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Investigators discovered that she met very Titus on the dating
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  Speaker 1: Aptember ender, and she started a relationship with him, and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: she said a month into the relationship things went haywire.
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  Speaker 1: She went through hell that he would abuse her, kick her,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: strangle her, and that he would strangle her as a
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: way to what he said, test her. Oh, he strangled
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: her to quote test her, Yes, to see how tough
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: she was. Okay, So I want to get back to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: this lawyer. So she is now in a relationship with
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the strangler. She represented him on those charges. She represented
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: very very Titus on those charges. Okay. So concerning that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: her former law partner calls the cops about their sex
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: relationship when he hears about the triple homicide. Okay, so
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: now that her former boyfriend and law partner calls the cops,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: owner the cops make a visit. Take a listen to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: our friends at KFORE four. The murder mystery in Oakmulgee
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: County could be coming down to a footprint. On this day,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: we now know investigators went back inside Harris's home to
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: get a pair of boots. Officers believed they could match
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: a footprint from the murder scene. It's been over a
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: month since Jack and Evelyn Chandler, along with their daughter
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Tiffany Ichorps, were found murdered in their home near Begs.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Cops then continue their search. They're now focused on the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: relationship this female lawyer has with Korn's previous abuser. Take
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at KFO R. As we reported,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Harry his boyfriend Barry Titus, used to be in a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: relationship with Tiffany Ikorps, and Ikorps had a domestic abuse
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: case against Titus in Oklahoma County. His attorney in that case,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Keegan Harris. A new search warrant shows the two claimed
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to be married. They've been living here in northwest Oklahoma City,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: where investigators took the GPS data from her SUV last week.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: They also seized another cell phone that was not at
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: her home the last time they rated it. So let
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: me understand, leave I pay. She represented him and the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: previous domestic assault that the victim brought against him. That's
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: how they met. You're correct, Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the first time a lawyer or some
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: other person a civilian goes into the penitentiary and falls
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: in love with an inmate. Take a listen to our
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: cut ten our friends at ABC Today, Joyce Tilling Mitchell
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: in stripes, shackles and tears, pleading guilty to helping the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: two murderers escape. She was swept off her feet a
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: bit for a period, and then when she realized who
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: she was dealing with, everything changed. In newly released statements,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Mitchell describes a deepening friendship withinmate Richard Matt. Quote. He
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: treated me with respect and was nice to me. She
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: says he made me feel special. That relationship turning sexual
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: inmate Matt grabbed me and kissed me. Mitchell also admits
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: sending naked pictures to the other prisoner, David Sweat, telling
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: police Matt told her we were all going to be together.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: She got in over her head into something that she
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: never should have started, but she did, and she's paying
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  Speaker 1: the price. Mitchell admits smuggling hacksall blades, chisels, a punch tool,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and a screwdriver to the prisoners, hiding them inside frozen
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: hamburger meat, Matt giving her two pills to drug her
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  Speaker 1: husband Lyle on the day of the escape. They referred
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to Lyle as the glitch. They talked about her husband
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: as the glitch. Now, wait a minute, Jackie, did I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: just hear this? She said he's cheating me with respect?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Didn't they have sex in the closet? Okay, you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I think I need a shrink. Doctor Jerry Cross and
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: helped me out. This is a seamstress with a happy marriage,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and then she she's a seamstress in the jail. She
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: falls for these guys, convicted felons. They're having sex in
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the closet. She's sending nuty picks. Apparently that's what happened,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and it seems like, you know, there's vulnerability there. Wait,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: swept off her feet. How do you get swept off
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: your feet? He certainly didn't wine and dine her. Maybe
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he gave her a cup of Pruno that he made
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: under his buck. How can he get swept off your
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: feet by convict? Yeah, the most convicts are very smooth talkers.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: They're very manipulative, you know, that's part of their personality,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: their criminal profile personality, that's their tradecraft is to be
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: able to talk and manipulate people, and especially you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: they recognize victims in the type of victims, and this
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: woman seemed to have vulnerabilities that were just capitalized, you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: by them. Well, she's not the only one that Samestress
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Joyce Mitchell take a listen now out twelve of our
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: friends at CBS six Richmond. Now roughly five years later,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Tapper faces charges for allegedly giving an inmate at the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Riverside Regional Jail a cell phone and drugs. The Commonwealth
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Attorney in Prince George says it happened in December and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that the case remains under investigation. While nearly all documents
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: related to the case are c and the prosecutor declined
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  Speaker 1: to name the inmate, Crime in Cider sources tell CBS six.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Tapper did visit one inmate hundreds of times in jail,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: smuggled him drugs, and even had sex with him behind bars.
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  Speaker 1: Del Carson no offense to all the men on the
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  Speaker 1: panel today. But my grandmother used to say, men are
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: like buses. There'll be a new one in fifteen minutes.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Don't get crazy. So why do you have to go
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: behind bars to have sex with a convict? Well, you know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: part of this is that when you're a defense attorney,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you've got to adopt that defendant's position in order to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: effectively argue it in court. And that makes a connection
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: between people that wouldn't ordinarily exist. And many lawyers have
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: no experience with the real criminal element, and as a result,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: they're not aware of their proclivity for manipulation. Who hey,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I just want you to hear something before you say
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: one more word, Deil Carson. I want you to hear
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: about the guy behind bars. This she fell for. This
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: is who he really is. Take a listen to ARCA
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: at nine. Andrew Roberts is a convicted killer found guilty
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of the deaths of his wife, Louise Lum and eight
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: month old daughter Tia at their home Roberts was just
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: twenty two at the time he strangled both while high
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: on a cocktail of drink and drugs. Roberts sprayed the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: victim's bodies with perfume and aftershave to mask the smell,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: and then left the residence to carry on partying. Authorities
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: captured him five days later. He was sentenced to two
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: life terms. Thank you Tyl all Right Crime Online for
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that information. So this guy Andrew Roberts who killed his
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: wife and eight month old daughter, Tia, then sprayed them
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: with aftershave perfume to mask the smell so he could
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: go ahead and party, and that's who she fell in
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: love with. Well, no offense to women, but sometimes people
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: like a bad boy, and that clearly is a bad boy.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Oh really, So you're blaming the women of course, Yeah,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm blaming them too. But what about all those SAPs
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that are sending Jodi Arius money and love notes and
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: want to marry her behind bars? Hey, it's not just women,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: So wake up and smell the coffee tale, Carson. Let
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: me just give you one more tiny example, gos, there's
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: so many to pick from. Let's go with our cut fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: Our friends at WPT z Listen. In fall of twenty fifteen,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Denise Prel was hired by the Department of Corrections and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Community Supervision or DOCKS. She was a supervisor in the
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: tailor shop. Hired around the same time former present seamstress
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Joyce Mitchell was sentenced for her role in the twenty
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: fifteen escape. Fast forward to spring twenty sixteen, Prel was
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: transferred to Taylor Shop five, where she met an inmate.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: That's where the two tell police their love story started,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: a similar situation to the one that sparked the infamous
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: love triangle leading to the twenty fifteen prison break. The
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: inmate is quoted in court documents saying the two fell
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: in love. They say they started writing letters to each
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: other under the alias Gwen Freeman. Gwendolenis Prel's middle name.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Freeman was in reference to the inmate eventually becoming a Freeman.
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  Speaker 1: Then it turned to phone calls. The documents say prels
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: sending the inmate at least three hundred and fifty dollars.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: The inmates tells police that the two were planning on
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: living with each other once he's released from prison. So
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: it looks like lightning dust strike twice at the same location,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: another affair with a different inmate, and another woman brought
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: into the tailor shot. So you know, I could go
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: on and on and on. I've got so many cases
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: of women going behind bars for whatever legitimate reason, falling
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: in love, having sex with the inmate behind bars, and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: then suddenly they're helping them bust out of jail. Now,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: in this case, however, the case of Tiffany Ichorps and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: both her parents, Jack and Evelyn, it was much more
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: than a jailbreak. We now have three dead bodies on
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: our hands. I'm giving you a little peek at the
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: charming guys these women are meeting behind bars. Let's take
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: a look at who this lawyer, Keegan Harris in her thirties,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: her whole life ahead of her, a well known lawyer.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: This is who she falls for behind bars. Take a
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: listen to our forensic crime online. Tiffany Ikorp meets Barry
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Titus on the dating app Tender. Just a month into
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the relationship, Chorps reports to police. They tit Us kicks her,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: hits her, and strangles her as a way to test her.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: She says tit Us also introduced ichor to meth and heroin.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Two months later, Titus beats Ichors so severely she's in
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the hospital for days. Her injuries include cracked ribs, a
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: lacerated river, lacerated kidney, and bruises on her arms, legs, stomach,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and neck. Iicorps tells police that when she passes out
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: during the beatings, Titus wakes her by pouring water on her,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: then strangles her again until she passes out. Police try
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: to charge Titus, but Ichorps refuses to cooperate. Three months later,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it happens again. A witness calls police, saying that Titus
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: is beating Korps, but Ichorps refuses to cooperate. Just got Morgan,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Professor forensics. How do you get a lacerated liver? Oh,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it rises specifically from blunt force trauma, Nancy, And that
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: means that you put a fist in there, you kick,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: you can drive your shoulder into somebody. We see lacerated
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: livers many times actually in car accidents. So that gives
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: you an idea as to the amount of force that's applied.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: You know, many times, Nancy, when you're talking about abuse symptoms,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: they can have a laceration to either the spleen, or deliver,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: which are kind of parallel to one another in the cavity,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: but there won't be any kind of external insult. You
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: won't see many times you won't see an overlying contusion.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you will. But you're saying a bruise. You don't
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: see a bruise. Well, you know, it's just kind of
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: my vernacular, but yeah, a bruise. Yes, Before you go
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to too deep into that, I want to talk. Bring
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: us back to the victim, Tiffany Ichorps. She's taking these horrible,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: horrible beatings at the hands of the new boyfriend, Barry Titus.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: The second she's too afraid to press charges, but finally
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: she does take a listen hour cut seventy. Tiffany Ichorps
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: GID file charges against Titus a few months later, after
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: cutting off contact with him and getting counseling. After Titus
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: is arrested and charged with a salt reports say someone
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: left a package of white powder on I coorse porch.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Testing shows its powdered sugar, but police think someone is
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: trying to intimidate or scare her. A protective order is
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: filed against Titus a month later. Records show his attorney
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: for that case. The assault case and unrelated charges in
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Cleveland County is Keegan Heroes. So enter Keegan hair Oz.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: That's who's assigned to be his defense attorney after this
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  Speaker 1: monstrous domestic beating where he nearly beats Tiffany Ichor dead,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: then tries to intimidate her by leaving. I don't know
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: what he was trying to pretend it was, but he
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: left sugar and a container I guess to make her
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: think it was some dangerous powder on her doorstep. But
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: everything progresses rapidly. Take a listen to our friends at
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: kfo R. You might remember the name Kegan Harros. She's
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: an attorney caught up in a twisted love triangle. She
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: was representing her boyfriend Barry Titus after his ex girlfriend,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Tiffany Ikorps, accused him of making threats to kill her
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and her family. Ikorps and her parents were later murdered
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: by two masked killers at their home and Begs. However,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to this day, no charges have ever been filed, law
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: enforcement officials only saying Harros and Titus are connected to
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the case. But Harris took a plea deal for a
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: federal weapons charge and served twenty four months in prison.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: At that time, no arrests the police investigators, indicating that
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: somehow the female attorney is connected to Barry Titus. Second
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: the case progresses, take a listen to our friends at
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: kfo R News for court documents show state prosecutors believe
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: very Titus and his Oklahoma City attorney turned lover, Kegan
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Harris quote should be punished by death for the murders
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of Titus's ex girlfriend, Tivity Korps and her parents, Jack
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and Evelyn Chandler. Before the love triangle formed, Ikorps accused
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: forty year old Titus of threatening her family. She also
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: had a pending domestic abuse case against him. Representing Titus
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: was thirty eight year old Harris. Reports say while the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: family slept, Titus and Harris kicked in the door and
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: shot them to death one by one. The state alleges
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Ikorps was killed so Titus could quote avoid prosecution for
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the domestic assault case, adding Titus and Harris killed the
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Chandlers so they could get away with killing their daughter.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: A year and a half later, both Titus and Harris
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: charged with three counts of first degree murder and one
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: burglary charge. Oh what a tangled web we weave first,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: we've practice too to see let me understand, leave I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: fade crime online. So the two figures seen on surveillance
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: going into Tiffany Ichorps and her parents' home are not only,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: according to Coss Barry Titus a second, but she a
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: female lawyer under his spell, goes with him and together
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: they gunned down three people in their sleep so he
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: won't have to answer up on domrell domestic relations attack.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Your correct, Nancy. In the surveillance video, two masked figures
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: approached the home. One was tall believed to be and
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: then and another was much shorter. We now know it
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: was a female and the hat that was found at
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the scene contained the DNA of Titus in it. The
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: shell casings they were traced back to an original owner
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: who owned a shooting range and he said that Barry
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Titus and his girlfriend his attorney Arose, purchased the gun
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: there and he said they also hired the gun there
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and police got shell casings and it matched casings found
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: at the triple homicide scene. Is it true the prosecutors
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: are planning to seek the death penalty, LEVI, That is correct, Nancy.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: They say that the victims suffered mental anguish, mental torture,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and extreme fear because of these attacks. Hiding in the closet,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: waiting to die, We wait as justice unfals Nancy Gray's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: crime stories, signing off good