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Alexander Brothers Trial Could Soon See Defense Case · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the Last Days.
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Speaker 2: A bombshell move in the case of the so called
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Speaker 2: real estate Bros.
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Speaker 1: Three brothers rolling in money.
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Speaker 2: Charged with sex trafficking and rape. I'm Nancy Grace. This
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Speaker 2: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. In
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Speaker 2: the last days. A federal judge throws out real estate
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Speaker 2: moguls tale or in an Ellen Alexander rape to a
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Speaker 2: woman was thrown out joining us. Lauren Conlin, investigative reporter,
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Speaker 2: our host of Pop Crime TV.
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Speaker 1: Lauren, thank you for being with us? What's that all about?
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Speaker 3: While highlighting inconsistencies in witness testimony. In a significant development,
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Speaker 3: prosecutors have indicated that they plan to drop count six
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Speaker 3: and seven of the indictment. These are two standalone sex
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Speaker 3: trafficking charges that each carry a mandatory minimum sentence of
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Speaker 3: fifteen years if convicted. However, it remains unclear why prosecutors
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Speaker 3: are seeking to dismiss those counts. Defense attorneys have suggested
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Speaker 3: the move reflects weaknesses in the government's case and alibis
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Speaker 3: that the brothers have, while prosecutors have characterized this as
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Speaker 3: a strategic legal decision, noting that allegedly an investigator for
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Speaker 3: the defense had intimidated witness number four by going to
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Speaker 3: her neighbour's home and asking about her minor children. The
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Speaker 3: dismissal is not yet final and must be formally approved
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Speaker 3: by US District Judge Valerie Caproni. The trial itself has
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Speaker 3: also faced disruptions. One juror was dismissed after admitting he
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Speaker 3: had already formed an opinion about the defendant's innocence before deliberations,
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Speaker 3: leaving only one alternate juror remaining. To secure these convictions.
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Speaker 3: On the remaining charges, prosecutors must prove the brothers used force, fraud,
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Speaker 3: or coercion to compel women into sex. Sex and the
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Speaker 3: prosecution has really focused on drugs as a coercion element.
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Speaker 3: This is the legal standard at the heart of federal
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Speaker 3: sex trafficking laws. With prosecutors again signaling their case could
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Speaker 3: conclude imminently, the focus will soon shift to the defense
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Speaker 3: and ultimately the jury, who must decide whether the once
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Speaker 3: celebrated real estate moguls are guilty of orchestrating what the
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Speaker 3: prosecution describes as a year's long scheme of sexual exploitation.
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Speaker 2: What is at the heart of the allegations. I guess
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Speaker 2: the so called real Estate Bros.
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Speaker 1: A trio of brothers, luxury real estate agents to the
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Speaker 1: super rich, indicted on federal sex trafficking and battery charges.
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Speaker 4: Claims go back more than.
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Speaker 2: A decade, claims going back more than a decade. Try
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Speaker 2: two decades now, forty women that we know, ah the
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Speaker 2: claiming these filth, the rich real estate moguls took part
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Speaker 2: in rape after rape after systematic rape, and that the
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Speaker 2: allegations go back to when they were in high school.
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Speaker 2: All that money, all that privilege and education has bought
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Speaker 2: them a one way ticket to Hell with a pitstop
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Speaker 2: and the federal penitentiary. That's my prediction. But I want
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Speaker 2: you to hear what Damian Williams, the US attorney, has
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Speaker 2: to say.
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Speaker 5: The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips with,
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Speaker 5: paid for the flights or accommodations for the women on
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Speaker 5: these trips, and at times the defendants hand picked the
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Speaker 5: women to invite. At other times they used paid party
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Speaker 5: promoters to source women for them.
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Speaker 1: The indictment also.
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Speaker 5: Alleges that in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers
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Speaker 5: and others procured drugs that they agreed to provide to
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Speaker 5: the women. Including cocaine, mushrooms, and GHB as. We allege
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Speaker 5: that these drugs caused some of the women to be
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Speaker 5: physically unable to fight back or to escape.
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Speaker 2: Now you know why they're calling it the new ditty
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Speaker 2: or should I say the new ditties?
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Speaker 1: Now, that's what the US.
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Speaker 2: Attorney is saying for the US attorney for the Southern District.
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Speaker 2: But I want you to look at Oran Alexander on
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Speaker 2: the founder.
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Speaker 1: Having the ability to work with my brothers.
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Speaker 6: Have a partner with your brother, you know, just think
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Speaker 6: about that for a second.
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Speaker 7: It's the biggest issue you have a partnership is the
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Speaker 7: trust and knowing that you don't have to worry.
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Speaker 1: Honey, you got something to worry about.
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Speaker 2: Now, what if your brother flips on you and testifies
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Speaker 2: against you. Let's just analyze what we just heard, and
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Speaker 2: that's where our friends. That from the founder on YouTube,
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Speaker 2: that's or an Alexander one of the and I mean
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Speaker 2: filed the rich rolling in money, that's or an Alexander quote.
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Speaker 2: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have
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Speaker 2: a partner who's your brother.
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Speaker 1: You know, just think about that for second. Don't worry.
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it.
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Speaker 2: The biggest issue you have in partnership is trust and
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Speaker 2: knowing you don't have to worry.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what happened with me?
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Speaker 2: An All Star panel, Let's get to it straight out
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Speaker 2: to Christina Yo joining US national news anchor Salem News Channel.
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Speaker 1: Christina, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: I'm really curious about how much money these two have,
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Speaker 2: and this goes all the way back. Their family is wealthy,
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Speaker 2: their grandfather wealthy, blah blah blah blah, kind of like
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Speaker 2: Luigi MANNGIONI just all that money too, silver spoons in
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Speaker 2: the mouth.
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Speaker 1: And yet this what happened, Christina.
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Speaker 7: You know, actually I think it started way back when
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Speaker 7: they were in high school. As people are now starting
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Speaker 7: to come out and say that they actually had a
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Speaker 7: sex fan that was parked in front of their parents
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Speaker 7: forty million dollar beach front of state where the boys,
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Speaker 7: the brothers in high school, would take women to have
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Speaker 7: sex in that bus in front of their house. So
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Speaker 7: this has been behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps by
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Speaker 7: their parents, all the way through. Then you add the
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Speaker 7: hundreds of millions of dollars in properties that these brothers
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Speaker 7: have sold in the security business, and they're pretty much
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Speaker 7: running around town doing anything that they want, including, according
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Speaker 7: to prosecutors, drugging women raping women. Each brother has separately
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Speaker 7: been accused of at least ten rapes, ten forcible rapes
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Speaker 7: by women, and prosecutors are saying.
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Speaker 2: That, hey, hey Christina, Christina Ohio. Hold on, wait a minute,
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Speaker 2: we were just looking at them. Karen Stark, why is
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Speaker 2: it so hard for people to believe that super wealthy,
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Speaker 2: college educated, great job guys can commit heinous crimes. That's
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Speaker 2: what he posted on his own Facebook. Go ahead, well, I.
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Speaker 8: Really believe Nancy, and people see this outward of parents.
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Speaker 8: They're dressed so well, they look so terrific that they
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Speaker 8: buy that that they believe that that's what they really like,
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Speaker 8: and they have no idea what's going on behind the scene.
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Speaker 8: And actually the fact that he says he trusts his brother,
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Speaker 8: I was thinking, yeah, they trust. All of them trust
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Speaker 8: each other in supporting the crimes that they committed, which
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Speaker 8: made it even worse because they were encouraged.
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Speaker 2: Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of
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Speaker 2: the California jurisdiction and for my purposes, former federal prosecutor,
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Speaker 2: president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers and author of
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Speaker 2: Harvard to hashtag.
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Speaker 1: Nima, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Many people not familiar with our world of crime would say, hey,
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Speaker 2: why do they have to rape women with good looks?
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Speaker 2: Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they
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Speaker 2: look like Satan himself. But with good looks and all
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Speaker 2: that money, they could get anyone where they want, so
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Speaker 2: why rape a woman.
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Speaker 1: That kind of argument has actually worked.
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Speaker 4: On Jurrys before it has But Nancy, this isn't just
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Speaker 4: having sex with women. We're talking about drug induced orgies
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Speaker 4: right where multiple men, including the two brothers, are allegedly
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Speaker 4: having sex with the same woman. So yeah, women might
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Speaker 4: want to have sex with a handsome, wealthy man, but
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Speaker 4: not get in a situation where they're having an orgy
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Speaker 4: and they are being violated by multiple men.
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Speaker 2: Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that. That's
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Speaker 2: my point, Nima, I'm like two steps beyond that. Of course,
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Speaker 2: what you just said is right. What I'm saying is
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Speaker 2: it would be argued to a jury.
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Speaker 1: Just look at them.
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Speaker 2: Why would they have to source women with a pr
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Speaker 2: person in other words, basically pimp pimp for the brothers
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Speaker 2: because they could get any woman they want. Therefore, ergo
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Speaker 2: they're innocent.
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Speaker 4: It's not just any woman, Nancy. They need new women
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Speaker 4: every single night, and they want to do things to
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Speaker 4: these women that a lot of women wouldn't sent to. Now,
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Speaker 4: obviously this is a family show, so I'm not going
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Speaker 4: to get into all that, but that's why they're using
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Speaker 4: drugs like GHB to drug these women so they can't
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Speaker 4: say no.
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Speaker 9: That's what this is all about. And ze tailor as old.
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Speaker 4: As time doesn't matter if it's the Alexander Brothers, Diddy,
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Speaker 4: I can see that.
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Speaker 2: I'm clearly I think you and I have a communication
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Speaker 2: problem because you're just basically saying everything that I say.
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Speaker 2: I'm Linn Shaw helped me out here, founder executive director
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Speaker 2: Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex attacks on children and women.
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Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw. I'm trying to make the point that the
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Speaker 2: argument will be made by the defense. I already know
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Speaker 2: the facts is presented by the state. Everything that Ramani
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Speaker 2: just said, I get it. I've read the indictment. Okay,
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Speaker 2: the defense is going to argue at trial they don't
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Speaker 2: need to rate women. They can get any woman they want. Therefore,
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Speaker 2: this is consensual. That's b It's argued in so many
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Speaker 2: rape cases.
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Speaker 10: I call them the Alexander brothers crime family, and I
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Speaker 10: call these Dirty Ditty complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are
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Speaker 10: so big they're out of control. Again, this is the
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Speaker 10: same story we heard with Ditty and others facing charges
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Speaker 10: like this that so many vulnerable girls and women.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to throw in the girls again.
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Speaker 10: I wish we could get down to were there any
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Speaker 10: miners involved, but that will unfold at some point. They
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Speaker 10: want to see and live this lifestyle. Many of these
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Speaker 10: women were approached online complete strangers and they said, we'll
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Speaker 10: fly you out, we'll give you hotels, we'll give you parties,
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Speaker 10: we'll give you clothes, and vulnerable people girls especially, really
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Speaker 10: want to experience this. I'm here to say if this
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Speaker 10: case can help us educate the general public, because we're
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Speaker 10: hearing about all these you know, Dirty Ditty, We're hearing
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Speaker 10: about Tape Brothers, we're hearing hearing about Jeffrey Epstein, we're
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Speaker 10: hearing about now these criminal Alexander brothers could if it
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Speaker 10: could water down eventually.
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Speaker 1: My hope is to every day cases.
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Speaker 10: That are happening, that nobody will ever hear those victims,
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Speaker 10: see those victims, so we can educate everybody when they
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Speaker 10: offer you something like this, this lifestyle for free, They're
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Speaker 10: going to fly you somewhere run.
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Speaker 1: In the other direction.
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Speaker 10: This is again their powers, their money, their egos, their homes,
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Speaker 10: overtaking people's common sense. We have to do better educating
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Speaker 10: the public, girls and women about all of this.
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Speaker 2: Their family wealth has been estimated, correct me if I'm wrong,
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Speaker 2: Christina a whyo joining me from Salemw's channel, over one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen million dollars.
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Speaker 7: Correct, And I'm I'm sure that's even more than that,
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Speaker 7: as the parents have offered to put up to one
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Speaker 7: billion dollars to get their three boys out of prison
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Speaker 7: out on bail. They've even offered to put them up
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Speaker 7: in a second story apartment complex where they're jail time,
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Speaker 7: pre trial, that has no beachfront, that has no luxury
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Speaker 7: that's you know, guarded twenty four seven by guard.
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Speaker 2: WHA wait wait, wait wait, Christina, wait, did you say
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Speaker 2: the parents want to get them out of jail on
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Speaker 2: a billion as in brother b brother billion dollar bail
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Speaker 2: and the.
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Speaker 11: Jail is because they don't have a beach, they won't
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Speaker 11: have a lottery view, they won't have any orgies, and
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Speaker 11: it won't be luxuries so that's what they're considering to
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Speaker 11: be jail.
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Speaker 7: And yes, up to one billion with a beat is
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Speaker 7: what they're willing to put up to get their three
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Speaker 7: sons out of prison.
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Speaker 12: Bill Day, it's the ditties, it's the new ditties because
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Speaker 12: all the money procuring the women, making other people be
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Speaker 12: your hitch person to bring women to you, to drug
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Speaker 12: them and rate them.
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Speaker 2: Those are the allegations that're presumed innocent.
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Speaker 1: But also is Luigi Mangioni all over again.
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Speaker 2: Here is a rich brat kid whining about how US
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Speaker 2: common people have to live with the healthcare industry while
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Speaker 2: he's in a beach front Hawaii luxury high rise condo.
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Speaker 1: His great grandparents and grandparents and.
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Speaker 2: Broke their backs coming to this country and becoming millionaires,
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Speaker 2: working up from nothing nothing, passing it down. So Luigi
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Speaker 2: Mangioni could whine in his luxury condo these two same thing, Bill, Yeah.
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Speaker 13: And in this case, they've actually built their business, so
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Speaker 13: they built their brand.
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Speaker 9: They now feel omnipotent.
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Speaker 14: I mean they have money, they're traveling with celebrities, they're
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Speaker 14: flying on private jets.
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Speaker 9: You know, they're selling these huge, multi multimillion dollar properties.
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Speaker 14: They are getting headlines in all kinds of media, including
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Speaker 14: their own real estate empire.
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Speaker 9: So you know these are the paper people have a
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Speaker 9: profile around.
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Speaker 15: I'm not an FBI profile, but I know enough of
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Speaker 15: them to speak about how these people become it can
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Speaker 15: become emboldened, emblazoned. It's it's both feeding the ego as
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Speaker 15: well as also just their ability to control things. So
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Speaker 15: they like to be able to control everything, whether it's
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Speaker 15: the deal or people.
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Speaker 2: Guess what, I got a superseding indictment. I bet that's
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Speaker 2: making Nima Ramani just clench because when you see the
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Speaker 2: FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is for conspiracy to
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Speaker 2: commit sex trafficking on these rich brats. That means, hey,
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Speaker 2: we have one go at you, but we're not through.
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Speaker 2: We're issuing a revised, a new and improved indictment with
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Speaker 2: more charges. It supersedes the previous indictment. Yeah, they may
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Speaker 2: be rolling in money, but apparently the FEDS don't care
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Speaker 2: so exactly.
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Speaker 1: Who are the so.
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Speaker 6: Called real estate Bros. There are three Alexander brothers. Two
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Speaker 6: of the brothers are twins Or and a Lan, their
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Speaker 6: older brother Tall. Tall and Or and Alexander are known
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Speaker 6: in the world of high priced real estate, having broken
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Speaker 6: to a forty nine million dollar deal for their dad
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Speaker 6: in twenty twelve and a two hundred and forty million
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Speaker 6: dollar deal for a Manhattan condos sale in twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 6: while Orn's twin brother Alan attended law school before joining
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Speaker 6: the family's private security company again Security.
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Speaker 2: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, the so called realty Brothers
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Speaker 2: the Alexander Brothers. Prosecutors say the brothers use their status,
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Speaker 2: their prestige, their money.
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Speaker 1: Their wealth, to lure to drug.
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Speaker 2: And sex assault, going back two decades all the way
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Speaker 2: to high school. Wow, Lauren Conlin, investigate reporter, our host
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Speaker 2: of Pop Crime TV, Lauren, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: What do you believe was the ground?
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Speaker 3: Federal prosecutors say they could wrap their case as soon
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Speaker 3: as Monday, and the explosive sex trafficking trial of disgraced
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Speaker 3: luxury real estate brothers tal Orrin and Alone Alexander as
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Speaker 3: jurors continue hearing disturbing allegations of alleged drugging, coercion, and
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Speaker 3: sexual assault spanning more than a decade. The brothers, once
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Speaker 3: high profile figures in New York and Miami's elite real
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Speaker 3: estate circles are accused of using their wealth, influence, and
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Speaker 3: social access to lure women into situations where prosecutors say
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Speaker 3: they were drugged or sexually assaulted in locations including New
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Speaker 3: York City, the Hamptons, and Aspen, Colorado.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what do we know?
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Speaker 16: In a fifteen million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the
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Speaker 16: Alexander Twins, Oran and Alon celebrate their twenty eighth birthday.
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Speaker 16: Celebrants are greeted by an a nearly naked woman on
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Speaker 16: display is a toy for the rich and famous to
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Speaker 16: play with as they take turns dripping hot wax on
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Speaker 16: the woman, setting the tone for the decade, a night
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Speaker 16: that awaits those who are rich enough and or famous
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Speaker 16: enough to be invited to The Alexander Twins birthday Pash.
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Speaker 1: What am I hearing? Wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: A fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the real
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Speaker 2: estate Bros celebrate their twenty eighth birthday. Celebrates greeted by
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Speaker 2: a nearly naked woman on display as a toy for
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Speaker 2: the rich and famous to play with as they take turns.
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Speaker 1: Dripping hot wax on her. Deja vous? Huh does this
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Speaker 1: remind you of anything?
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Speaker 3: Hi?
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Speaker 2: Diddy, there you are nothing like eating soushy off a
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Speaker 2: naked lady on display for the rich and famous. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's like an echo chamber in here. Well, guess what
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Speaker 2: the Feds apparently in this case anyway, don't care how
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Speaker 2: rich you are, whether you're eating sushi off a naked
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Speaker 2: lady at a luxury party or you have her on
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Speaker 2: display so rich people can drip wax on her. Listen
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Speaker 2: to the US Attorney for the Southern District OMNI.
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Speaker 5: Or the Alexander Brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with each other,
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Speaker 5: and sometimes with other men, forcibly raped and assaulted the women,
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Speaker 5: as the indictment alleges that Alexander Brothers sex trafficking agreement
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Speaker 5: went beyond the planned trips and events. On numerous occasions,
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Speaker 5: one or more of the defendants drugged and raped or
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Speaker 5: sexually assaulted women they encountered by chance at bars, at nightclubs,
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Speaker 5: social events, and dating apps.
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Speaker 1: These assaults allegedly.
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Speaker 5: Had many of the same hallmarks as the rapes that
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Speaker 5: occurred at group events, isolated locations, drug victims, force and
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Speaker 5: physical restraints.
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Speaker 1: It's really a.
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Speaker 2: Lot to take in, you know, very often, as a
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Speaker 2: former prosecutor prosecuting nothing but violent felonies. I would catch
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Speaker 2: myself wondering why, for instance, why not just date a
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Speaker 2: woman and have a relationship and have sex with her
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Speaker 2: and not drug anybody and rape and sodomize them in
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Speaker 2: a party, in a party setting with a lot of
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Speaker 2: guys standing around. But then I realized, about five years
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Speaker 2: into that kind of thinking, why ask why? It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: I had one job to seek the truth. Who did, what, where, when?
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Speaker 1: And why?
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Speaker 2: Why not so much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen,
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Speaker 2: it's not about sex.
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Speaker 1: That's a simple answer for me.
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Speaker 2: Why don't the real estate bros with all their money
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Speaker 2: and all all their high rises just go date somebody
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Speaker 2: and have a sex life. It's not about the sex.
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Speaker 2: What is it.
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Speaker 8: It's a perversion, Nancy. They're getting off on raping, sateomizing.
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Speaker 8: A normal relationship the kind that you're referring to does
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Speaker 8: not excite them. They have gotten used to this kind
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Speaker 8: of rape and violence since they were in high school,
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Speaker 8: and this is what gets them excited. Nothing else.
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Speaker 2: Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing. These wild, extravagant
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Speaker 2: parties that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Speaker 1: Were not parties at all.
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Speaker 2: They were just a russ to find sex assault victims
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Speaker 2: for the new deities.
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Speaker 6: Listen, the fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been
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Speaker 6: a cover for something sinister preplanned by the Alexander brothers.
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Speaker 6: Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible
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Speaker 6: rape by at least ten women. All three indicted on
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Speaker 6: federal charges of sex trafficking, while the twins aren't in
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Speaker 6: Alan are charged with sexual battery in Florida. The Alexanders
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Speaker 6: have denied the allegations in the civil cases, and their
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Speaker 6: reps have previously gone so far as to suggest the
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Speaker 6: accusers were trying to shake down the brothers.
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Speaker 2: Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to
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Speaker 2: say deja vu all over again? Why the real estate
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Speaker 2: bros Are called the new Ditties? Same thing now? They
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Speaker 2: called it fabulous parties. Ditty calls it freakoffs.
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Speaker 5: Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
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Speaker 5: called freakoffs, and he often electronically recorded them. The freak
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Speaker 5: offs sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial
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Speaker 5: sex workers, and often involved a variety of narcotics such
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Speaker 5: as ketamine, ecstasy, and GHB, which comes distributed to the
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Speaker 5: victims to keep them obedient and compliant, as alleged, When
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Speaker 5: Combs didn't get his way, he was violent and he
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Speaker 5: subjected victims of physical, emotional, and verbal abuse so that
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Speaker 5: they would participate in the free goofs.
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Speaker 2: To Christina Alaio, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,
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Speaker 2: the comparison between the real estate Bros And Ditty are inescapable.
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Speaker 7: They are They both are basically using their power and
22:25
Speaker 7: influence to allegedly drug and rape women. However, the brothers
22:31
Speaker 7: have been doing this I think longer than Diddy, all
22:34
Speaker 7: the way tracing back to high school. I think they
22:35
Speaker 7: were encouraged to do it with their lifestyle, and they
22:37
Speaker 7: have been described as being very aggressive, very bullish, very
22:42
Speaker 7: attacki when it comes to working in business. And also
22:45
Speaker 7: you have people from their high school years who are
22:47
Speaker 7: coming forward saying that they did it in high school
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Speaker 7: and people were scared.
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Speaker 1: Everybody in the community was scared to speak out.
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Speaker 7: Because they had so much power, they had so much prominence,
22:56
Speaker 7: because they had so much influence. And the same goes
22:58
Speaker 7: for Diddy. He has so much power and so much money,
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Speaker 7: people don't want to talk out against the people are
23:03
Speaker 7: scared that their careers are going to be ruined, that
23:05
Speaker 7: they're never going to be let back into the music industry,
23:08
Speaker 7: that they'll be blacklisted from certain events. And I think
23:10
Speaker 7: the same is true for the.
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Speaker 2: Brothers crime stories with Nancy Grace, the so called realty Bros.
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Speaker 2: The three men have pled not guilty to initial charges
23:28
Speaker 2: and back in the Manhattan courtrooms. It all started when
23:31
Speaker 2: they were arrested in Florida, and it shook up eye
23:35
Speaker 2: in real estate industry and led to the downfall of
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Speaker 2: or In Alexander now thirty seven, tw Alexander thirty eight.
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Speaker 2: Those two were the so called real estate royalty in
23:49
Speaker 2: fact or in Intel. Alexander helped broker the sale of
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Speaker 2: a two hundred and forty million dollar Manhattan penthouse.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Then they co founded their own real estate brokerage company
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Speaker 2: called Official Now a Lawn Alexander thirty seven, the other brother,
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Speaker 2: the other twin, did not work in real estate, but
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Speaker 2: he socialized with the two brothers. I guess just enough
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Speaker 2: to get to catch a little sex trafficking charge.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what do we know?
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Speaker 17: First witness in the sex trafficking trial involving three brothers,
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Speaker 17: two of whom our prominent real estate brokers recounted her
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Speaker 17: harrowing experience on Tuesday, The excitement of attending a party
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Speaker 17: at actor Zach Ephron's apartment swiftly turned into a nightmare.
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Speaker 17: One hours later, one of the brothers assaulted her in
24:39
Speaker 17: their residence, taunting her throughout the ordeal. The woman who
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Speaker 17: spoke under a fictitious name is among several alleged victims
24:47
Speaker 17: slated to testify against tal Orrin and a Lawn Alexander,
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Speaker 17: who faced accusations of drugging and raping women and girls
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Speaker 17: over several years. Defense attorneys for the brothers assert that
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Speaker 17: the encounters were conc sensual. Prosecutors alleged that the Alexander
25:03
Speaker 17: brothers exploited their connections to wealthy and influential people to
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Speaker 17: entice multiple victims. The witness explained that she was just
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Speaker 17: twenty years old and studying anthropology when she met two
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Speaker 17: of the brothers at a party at Ephron's New York
25:18
Speaker 17: City apartment. She had accompanied a friend who had recently
25:21
Speaker 17: befriended tal Alexander, who invited them to watch the final
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Speaker 17: game of the twenty twelve NBA Finals. She noted that
25:29
Speaker 17: their interaction with Ephron was minimal as he is not
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Speaker 17: implicated in any wrongdoing. After the game, she attended an
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Speaker 17: after party at a Manhattan night club, where she accepted
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Speaker 17: a drink and lost consciousness. She later woke up in
25:42
Speaker 17: a different apartment naked with a lawn Alexander standing over her,
25:46
Speaker 17: also unclothed. Despite her attempts to rise, he repeatedly pushed
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Speaker 17: her back down, leading her to declare, I don't want
25:53
Speaker 17: to have sex with you, she said. He laughed and responded,
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Speaker 17: you already did. She recounted how he then forced himself
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Speaker 17: on her during the assault. Tal Alexander briefly entered the
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Speaker 17: room but did not intervene, leaving her feeling that he
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Speaker 17: was quote super nonchalant about the whole thing. Assistant US
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Speaker 17: Attorney Madison Smyers, in her opening remarks to the jury,
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Speaker 17: described the Alexander brothers as perpetrators masquerading as party boys.
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Speaker 17: She stated that they employed various tactics, including luxury, accommodations, flights, drugs, alcohol,
26:28
Speaker 17: and sometimes physical force to manipulate women into compromising situations.
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Speaker 17: Defense attorney Teeny Garaghos, representing or A Alexander, urged the
26:38
Speaker 17: jury to dismiss the prosecution's monstrous story, Garaghos portrayed the brothers,
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Speaker 17: who graduated from college in two thousand and eight, as
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Speaker 17: ambitious and occasionally arrogant young men navigating the nightlife scene
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Speaker 17: in search of romantic encounters, arguing that while their behavior
26:54
Speaker 17: may seem immoral, it is not criminal. She suggested that
26:58
Speaker 17: some accusers were pursued doing lawsuits for financial gain and
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Speaker 17: only labeled themselves as victims after regretting their choices, such
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Speaker 17: as using illegal drugs or engaging in sexual activities outside
27:11
Speaker 17: their current relationships. Attorney Deana Paul, representing Tal Alexander, cautioned
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Speaker 17: the jury that the trial's subject matter could be distressing,
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Speaker 17: like to an R rated movie, and emphasizing the prosecution's
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Speaker 17: portrayal of the brothers as quote monsters. In a courtroom sketch,
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Speaker 17: the three brothers, A lawn Or and Tal Alexander were
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Speaker 17: seen in Manhattan Federal Court on the opening day of
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Speaker 17: trial January twenty seven. Tal and Or and Alexander specialized
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Speaker 17: in high end real estate in cities like Miami, New York,
27:42
Speaker 17: and LA while their brother Alan earned a law degree
27:46
Speaker 17: and managed the family's private security business. Tall is thirty
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Speaker 17: nine the twins alan In orran Are thirty eight. The
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Speaker 17: indictment claims the men conspired to lure women to vacation
27:57
Speaker 17: spots like the Hamptons by offering flights and luxurious accommodations.
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Speaker 17: Since their arrest in Miami in December of twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 17: the brothers have been held without bail. During her testimony
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Speaker 17: on Tuesday, the first witness described how she escaped the
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Speaker 17: room where Alan Alexander had attacked her after he fell asleep.
28:16
Speaker 17: Despite the emotional weight of her testimony, she maintained her
28:20
Speaker 17: composure for the most part, though she became visibly upset
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Speaker 17: at times, particularly when she reflected on reaching out to
28:27
Speaker 17: a friend years later after the incident to remind herself
28:31
Speaker 17: that she was still love.
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Speaker 3: This week, an FBI special agent presented jurors with detailed
28:37
Speaker 3: charts showing years of emails and text messages. Prosecutors argue
28:41
Speaker 3: reveal patterns of coordination and planning among the brothers dating
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Speaker 3: back to two thousand and nine. One accuser, identified in
28:49
Speaker 3: court as Victim twenty, testified that she met Orin Alexander
28:54
Speaker 3: during a ski trip in Aspen and soon became heavily intoxicated.
28:58
Speaker 3: After drinking champagne with hid Him and his brother Tall.
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Speaker 3: She told jurors that she regained partial awareness to find
29:05
Speaker 3: Orin on top of her, and then she felt confused, sore,
29:09
Speaker 3: and humiliated. The next day, she also testified she later
29:13
Speaker 3: learned that she had contracted chlamydia from Orin. Defense attorneys, however,
29:19
Speaker 3: have aggressively challenged the credibility of accusers, pointing to flirtatious messages,
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Speaker 3: gaps in memory, and continued contact with the brothers after
29:29
Speaker 3: the alleged assaults. The defense has argued these interactions were consensual,
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Speaker 3: while highlighting inconsistencies in witness testimony.
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Speaker 2: The Alexander brothers are so called real estate bros rolling
29:43
Speaker 2: in money, also called the new Ditties. All of their
29:48
Speaker 2: trouble started, well, it really started all the way back
29:51
Speaker 2: in high school when they're accused of sex saulting women
29:54
Speaker 2: all the way that back then, but the current day
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Speaker 2: problems i e. Their rape charged, which is all started
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Speaker 2: when one woman spoke out. According to prosecutors, the rapes
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Speaker 2: and sex assaults have been going on for years and
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Speaker 2: years and years until this woman spoke out.
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Speaker 6: Listen, the Alexander brothers fall from grace begins when the
30:19
Speaker 6: Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims
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Speaker 6: Kay Wyman and Rebecca Mandel. Wyman alleges the brothers abducted
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Speaker 6: her in twenty twelve and brought her to a Hampton's
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Speaker 6: party palace in Watermill, Long Island, where the brothers allegedly
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Speaker 6: dragged her into a large bedroom where she was sexually assaulted, abused, raped, pinned, groped, harassed,
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Speaker 6: battered and fondled by a lawn and or in Alexander,
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Speaker 6: isn't it amazing?
30:45
Speaker 2: Linn saw joining us in Lynn's Warriors, how it only
30:48
Speaker 2: takes one person, one person to stand up and be counted,
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Speaker 2: one person to speak out, even though they may be
30:56
Speaker 2: afraid for the whole house of cards to fall down.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will
31:03
Speaker 10: give you safety, we will give you guardrails, we will
31:06
Speaker 10: stand next to you. That is what I'm hoping all
31:08
Speaker 10: of these dirty ditties and this Alexander Brothers crime family
31:11
Speaker 10: will bring more public awareness again watering down to you know,
31:16
Speaker 10: maybe that team that lives in the Bronx or something
31:19
Speaker 10: like that, that they can come forward. We will take
31:22
Speaker 10: care of them. But I want to point something out.
31:24
Speaker 10: There is so much video evidence here, and I want
31:27
Speaker 10: to go back to what happened with all those videos
31:30
Speaker 10: where they upload it to porn sites? Was there millions
31:34
Speaker 10: of dollars? Because we do a lot of work with this.
31:36
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly right
31:40
Speaker 2: straight out to Christina at Yo joining US news anchor
31:42
Speaker 2: and investigative reporter. What are these so called trophies of
31:47
Speaker 2: the real estate bros That has just have just been revealed.
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Speaker 7: Yes, well, it's one thing to have a witness testimony, right,
31:53
Speaker 7: but it's an entirely different situation when you have video evidence.
31:56
Speaker 7: As we just saw with the Cassie and Ditty situation.
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Speaker 7: Prosecutors and investigators rated tell Alexander's Manhattan apartment and they
32:05
Speaker 7: found a hard drive filled with pictures and videos. They're
32:09
Speaker 7: saying in these videos, of course, there's the quote unquote
32:12
Speaker 7: orgys or the sessions where alleged rape is happening. They
32:15
Speaker 7: are saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on
32:19
Speaker 7: alcohol or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in
32:23
Speaker 7: these videos where the brothers are physically manipulating these women's
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Speaker 7: bodies to have sex with them, and most of the
32:30
Speaker 7: time they're saying these women do not know they're being recorded.
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Speaker 7: There's this one incident that they explain that a woman
32:36
Speaker 7: and a man are having sex in a stall and
32:38
Speaker 7: another person is recording over the stall with a camera,
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Speaker 7: and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.
32:44
Speaker 7: So it's going to be pretty difficult. For whatever reason
32:47
Speaker 7: they kept these videos or they have these videos, it's
32:49
Speaker 7: going to be difficult to defend this in court.
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Speaker 2: Christina, you stated that one of the videos was taken
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Speaker 2: over a stall.
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Speaker 7: What yep, so a man and a woman we're having sex.
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Speaker 7: It did in detail if that was forced rape. It
33:01
Speaker 7: didn't detail what that was exactly. But there is a
33:03
Speaker 7: third person who is holding a video camera up over
33:07
Speaker 7: the bathroom stall where the woman and man are inside
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Speaker 7: of that stall having sex, and the woman sees the camera.
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Speaker 7: She tells them to stop, and they don't stop. And
33:14
Speaker 7: that's what prosecutors are saying. They're not listening to these women.
33:17
Speaker 7: They're manipulating their bodies, and they won't stop when the
33:20
Speaker 7: women are asking them to stop.
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Speaker 2: Trophies trophies to Nima Romani, joining US former federal prosecutor
33:28
Speaker 2: President of West Coast Trial Warriors, author of Harvard to
33:31
Speaker 2: Hashtag's Nima trophies have been the undoing of so Manie
33:37
Speaker 2: criminals explain.
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Speaker 4: Oh, it's great evidence if you're a prosecutor because people
33:42
Speaker 4: can lie. Criminal and fendants lie all the time, even
33:44
Speaker 4: witnesses and victims can sometimes lie.
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Speaker 1: But video doesn't lie.
33:48
Speaker 4: And when you have video of these sex acts, that
33:51
Speaker 4: is the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really
33:54
Speaker 4: there's only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either
33:57
Speaker 4: the sexual activity didn't happen or it was consensual. That's it.
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Speaker 4: And once you have that video, it certainly takes away
34:05
Speaker 4: the first offense, and then when women are being drug
34:08
Speaker 4: takes away the second as well. And there's really two
34:11
Speaker 4: reasons why people record these sex sects. The first is
34:15
Speaker 4: their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably
34:18
Speaker 4: why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the
34:21
Speaker 4: second reason, and that is to have control over the victims,
34:25
Speaker 4: potentially blackmail them and say, hey, if you come after me,
34:29
Speaker 4: I'm going to leak these videos.
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Speaker 2: Christina Jyo, isn't it true that these videos were pulled
34:35
Speaker 2: off of a hard drive that was found hidden in
34:38
Speaker 2: a closet during a federal search.
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Speaker 7: Yes, in tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, so they were really searching.
34:44
Speaker 7: They had the warrant to go through everything, and he
34:46
Speaker 7: kept them. He kept them on a hard drive. And
34:48
Speaker 7: it's not just videos, it's pictures as well. And it
34:51
Speaker 7: goes to show that just like he said, men, women
34:54
Speaker 7: light witnesses lie perhaps, but the video is not going
34:57
Speaker 7: to lie. And this is pretty tough evidence. However, this
35:00
Speaker 7: is already saying that this doesn't prove anything. This doesn't
35:02
Speaker 7: prove a commercial act. This doesn't prove that they were drugged.
35:06
Speaker 7: It may prove that they're intoxicated, but he's saying, oh,
35:08
Speaker 7: these are just big orgies. Everybody was willing and there
35:11
Speaker 7: is nothing going on here, So next story, please, you know.
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Speaker 1: It reminds me.
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Speaker 2: In the last few days, Shawn Comes aka Diddi's defense
35:21
Speaker 2: team has stated they want the free coll videos to
35:23
Speaker 2: be made public because it quote proves his innocence. Okay, sure,
35:29
Speaker 2: you know another thing. If it's so innocent, why was
35:32
Speaker 2: it hidden in a closet? But thinking about the videos,
35:36
Speaker 2: the trophies pulled from a hard drive in the real
35:39
Speaker 2: estate Bro's closet. It reminds me of a certain raid
35:43
Speaker 2: that went down on Shawn Combs's mansion. In that case,
35:48
Speaker 2: as well, Bill Daily, former FBI trophies quote trophies were
35:54
Speaker 2: obtained during that raid. Bill Daily video equipment was reportedly discovered,
36:02
Speaker 2: along with over a thousand bottles of lubricant baby oil.
36:06
Speaker 2: Trophies have been the bane of many criminals existence.
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Speaker 1: Why trophies well, you know.
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Speaker 14: And as if you go to other kind of repeat offenders,
36:15
Speaker 14: repeat criminals such as Dennis Raider, the bund torture.
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Speaker 13: Kill fiend, you know, they either keep pieces of clothing,
36:24
Speaker 13: they keep some something to remind them something. Who's going
36:28
Speaker 13: to get them excited, Something's going to you know, make
36:30
Speaker 13: them remember how how wonderful it was that they controlled
36:33
Speaker 13: this person, that they did what they did. And so
36:36
Speaker 13: for all these things, it's some time.
36:37
Speaker 1: Are you putting perfume on the pig daily? That's not
36:41
Speaker 1: like you.
36:42
Speaker 2: The souvenirs, the trophies quote get them excited.
36:45
Speaker 1: You may give them an direction.
36:47
Speaker 9: Well, you know that as well as sharing among other
36:49
Speaker 9: people being able to.
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Speaker 13: In some cases they like to share it because they've
36:54
Speaker 13: they've had this experience of other people.
36:55
Speaker 9: They keep it.
36:56
Speaker 13: They look at themselves, you know, maybe other people. They
36:59
Speaker 13: let them see that. That all kind of gives them
37:01
Speaker 13: a sense of control. It goes back to that essence
37:04
Speaker 13: of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing what they want
37:08
Speaker 13: to do, using that leverage over people.
37:10
Speaker 9: You know.
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Speaker 13: In this case, Nancy, in a very interesting point it
37:13
Speaker 13: came up, which is simply what we've seen in other cases,
37:15
Speaker 13: is that as the FBI was investigating this, reports are
37:18
Speaker 13: coming out that multiple victims.
37:20
Speaker 9: Have the same stories.
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Speaker 13: Again, people who've been not connected, not there at the
37:23
Speaker 13: same place, same time, but have the same.
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Speaker 9: Story to tell.
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Speaker 14: All of that is extreming and as part of what
37:29
Speaker 14: I believe the FBI is and the US the Attorney's
37:32
Speaker 14: Office is making their case out of is.
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Speaker 9: That they have statements, and I would.
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Speaker 2: Encourage people, you know, I'm very curious, Bill Daily.
37:39
Speaker 1: I think this goes beyond your or my kin.
37:43
Speaker 2: Colloquial for understanding joining me psychologist Karen Stark.
37:48
Speaker 1: Everything Bill Daily said is correct, But what.
37:51
Speaker 2: Is the reason, the mental or the psychological reason that
37:56
Speaker 2: people like Dennis Raider or in this case, the real
38:00
Speaker 2: estate bros also called the rape bros.
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Speaker 1: But those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos
38:06
Speaker 1: they're damning.
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Speaker 8: It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.
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Speaker 8: Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,
38:15
Speaker 8: whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms,
38:20
Speaker 8: They can do that all over again repeatedly because they
38:24
Speaker 8: have these trophies. It's great if it's a video, but
38:27
Speaker 8: it can be an airing. It could be a necklace,
38:30
Speaker 8: it could be a piece of clothing. It doesn't matter.
38:33
Speaker 8: They wind up reliving the excitement that they felt at
38:37
Speaker 8: the time and how much they controlled the situation.
38:44
Speaker 1: For years.
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Speaker 5: The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged domestic and
38:50
Speaker 5: international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme. To
38:55
Speaker 5: recruit and induce women to come on the trips, they
38:57
Speaker 5: provided material benefits, things like travel to vacation destinations, luxury accommodations,
39:03
Speaker 5: and access to other high end experiences.
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Speaker 1: Are the claims true? Should I believe the real estate Bros?
39:10
Speaker 2: Or should I believe all of the women now coming forward,
39:15
Speaker 2: some of them named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits.
39:20
Speaker 2: What's very hard for many people to understand, including myself,
39:24
Speaker 2: is how the real estate bros. Acted how they faked
39:31
Speaker 2: a happy home life.
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Speaker 6: Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now. Alahan married
39:36
Speaker 6: Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in May
39:39
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty. Or In married model Camilla Hanson in
39:42
Speaker 6: April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel Cogt in
39:46
Speaker 6: October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with the
39:49
Speaker 6: judge to let him out as his wife was pregnant
39:52
Speaker 6: and do any day. His request was denied.
39:55
Speaker 2: That's something the baby can say as it grows up.
39:58
Speaker 2: Dad was in jail on ape charges when I was born.
40:02
Speaker 2: This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy Rediu.
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Speaker 1: Listen, be happy.
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Speaker 9: Two of you get on the phone.
40:22
Speaker 2: To veteran try a lawyer, former felanty prosecutor Nima Ramani.
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Speaker 1: Nima. It would not be.
40:28
Speaker 2: The first time a so called family man was ultimately
40:33
Speaker 2: convicted of repeat offenses.
40:36
Speaker 1: I mean, there's Dennis Raider that Bill Dealey brought up earlier.
40:40
Speaker 2: Who would sex assault and kill so many women and
40:45
Speaker 2: including young girls on his dog catching route the whole
40:49
Speaker 2: time he had a family at home.
40:51
Speaker 1: When he was a deacon in the church.
40:53
Speaker 2: Uh. Then you've gotten Gaysey John Wayne Gacy, who would
40:58
Speaker 2: go to children's birthday parties to entertain the children dressed
41:01
Speaker 2: as a clown. I don't know how many boys bodies
41:05
Speaker 2: were pulled out of his crawl space. Then you got
41:07
Speaker 2: Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful law school student.
41:13
Speaker 1: He's a serial killer. He goes on and on, and.
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Speaker 2: Do I have to say, Rex Huerman, the eight hundred
41:20
Speaker 2: pound gorilla in the room, the architect by day, serial
41:24
Speaker 2: killer by night, with a wife and two children.
41:27
Speaker 4: Nancy and human's wife actually saw some of these sex acts,
41:30
Speaker 4: at least allegedly, so this question of what she knew.
41:32
Speaker 1: But this is criminal defense.
41:34
Speaker 4: Lawyering one on one. They want to show the jurors
41:37
Speaker 4: that the defendant has family support. That's why you see
41:40
Speaker 4: Diddy's family at every single appearance. That's why I fully
41:44
Speaker 4: expect the Alexander brothers to have their parents, the wives
41:48
Speaker 4: who haven't filed divorce to be at those court proceedings,
41:51
Speaker 4: because that's what jurors expect. They want to see the
41:54
Speaker 4: family members supporting the folks who are accused and are on.
41:58
Speaker 1: Trap and Mike Didty the New.
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Speaker 2: Ditties have a fantastical scheme of how they're going to
42:05
Speaker 2: stay out of MDC Metropolitan Detention Center.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 6: In a crazy bid to keep their boys out of incarceration,
42:12
Speaker 6: the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered to provide
42:15
Speaker 6: private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities, Shlomo and
42:19
Speaker 6: Orle Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a two bedroom
42:23
Speaker 6: apartment on the eighth floor of a Miami building, emphasizing
42:26
Speaker 6: the apartment is non waterfront and non luxury. They promised
42:30
Speaker 6: security guards would be stationed around the clock and an
42:32
Speaker 6: alarm system would make sure the brothers remain on site.
42:35
Speaker 6: The parents also offered to put up to one billion
42:38
Speaker 6: dollars bail for their sons to get out of jail.
42:40
Speaker 1: In case you.
42:41
Speaker 2: Didn't get that, it's one billion as in brother b
42:45
Speaker 2: as in brother, not million billion. The parents offering to
42:49
Speaker 2: put up one billion dollars cash to get their sons
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Speaker 2: out of jail. Maybe they were going to put it
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Speaker 2: some equity into that, but one billion dollars bill to
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Speaker 2: get their sons out and having them imprisoned.
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Speaker 1: In a Miami high rise.
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Speaker 2: And the suffering part was that they wouldn't get a
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Speaker 2: beach front view ouch. That has to hurt. How dare you,
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Speaker 2: mommy and daddy Christina Yo. It's reminiscent of the last bid, well,
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Speaker 2: the last three bids by Sean Combs to get out
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Speaker 2: on bid where he offered the judge a multimillion dollar
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Speaker 2: bill package. I think it was twenty mil and he
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Speaker 2: would stay in a Manhattan town home with his own
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Speaker 2: private security guards to keep him from raping people.
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Speaker 1: Eerie echo, right, And that's the draw, right exactly.
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Speaker 7: I promised not to rape anybody during this time. I
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Speaker 7: promised that I'm not going to have any orgies. In fact,
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Speaker 7: I won't even have any women over, So that in
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Speaker 7: and of itself is a huge punishment. This is the
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Speaker 7: same thing that we're seeing with these brothers, and quite frankly,
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Speaker 7: I don't know how much the parents can be trusted
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Speaker 7: in this whole situation, because we talk about pretending to
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Speaker 7: have a perfect family. But I go back to the
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Speaker 7: sex bus that was sitting outside of their forty million
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Speaker 7: dollar home as the brothers were in high school, and
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Speaker 7: people have said witness testimony, they are saying that back
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Speaker 7: in those days that women in the scene, in the
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Speaker 7: Miami scene because for some reason high school brothers were
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Speaker 7: in the Miami scene. They were warned not to drink
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Speaker 7: any drinks that came from the brothers and to stay
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Speaker 7: away from the brothers.
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Speaker 16: The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth and
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Speaker 16: positions to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually
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Speaker 16: assault women. So far, more than forty women have come
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Speaker 16: forward accusing the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconduct, and
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Speaker 16: investigators are asking other women who believe they have been
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Speaker 16: assaulted to call. Attorneys for the brothers say they planned
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Speaker 16: to plead not guilty to the charges, which, if convicted,
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Speaker 16: could lend all three brothers in prison for life.
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Speaker 2: As we are discussing these alleged acts, sex assault, rape, sodomies,
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Speaker 2: that's what we're saying, reportedly date all the way back
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Speaker 2: to when the Real Estate Bros Were in high school.
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Speaker 18: Listen as news of the arrests start to spread, stories
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Speaker 18: from the Alexander brothers high school years come to light.
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Speaker 18: Their history of sexual violence dates back decades to their
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Speaker 18: high school days in Miami, where they bragged about several
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Speaker 18: gang rapes. Prosecutors say each of the victims that the
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Speaker 18: government has interviewed from this period, reported hearing that individuals involved,
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Speaker 18: including Tal Alexander, talked about the assaults at school, boasting
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Speaker 18: about running train on their victims and saying they wanted
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Speaker 18: to do it again.
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Speaker 2: You know, Lynn Shaw, as many rape and sodomy cases
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Speaker 2: that I've investigated, I have tried, have pled out to
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Speaker 2: jail time have covered.
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Speaker 1: It's still it's disgusting.
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Speaker 2: It's it just makes something and you want to die
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Speaker 2: to hear about them bragging about quote running train on
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Speaker 2: the victims, which means multiple rapists on one victim, saying
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Speaker 2: they quote wanted to do it again. It never ceases
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Speaker 2: to be heartbreaking that a victim would go through this.
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Speaker 10: Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for
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Speaker 10: those that don't have a voice. And I want us
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Speaker 10: to focus on two things here. I want us to
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Speaker 10: focus on where was mama Alexander. We're talking about a
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Speaker 10: sex bus when these trio of triplets, dirty ditty triplets
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Speaker 10: were right part right in front of their multimillion dollar mansion.
46:40
Speaker 10: I'm telling you, as a mother, I knew when my
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Speaker 10: kids moved a throw pillow on my couch. Where were
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Speaker 10: the parents at this time? And throughout all of this.
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Speaker 10: The second thing I want to and we have to
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Speaker 10: talk about that because people have to start standing up.
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Speaker 10: Where were these parents? They were the talk of the town.
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Speaker 10: We're hearing, you know, in the Miami, Florida area, So
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Speaker 10: we should focus on that. I also want to focus
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Speaker 10: on you're not going to see their wives in court
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Speaker 10: with them. Those women are taking their kids and running
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Speaker 10: for the hills. One has already filed for divorce. Okay,
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Speaker 10: they're going to turn evidence on them. They're beautiful young women,
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Speaker 10: they have some young children, a newborn baby.
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Speaker 1: They're not sticking around for this.
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Speaker 10: And the third thing I want to get back to
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Speaker 10: we're not talking enough about is that oldest brother with
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Speaker 10: his security firm. There is video evidence. Where are all
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Speaker 10: those videos going? I guarantee, I hope we have a
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Speaker 10: forensic accountant coming along. That they have been uploaded not
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Speaker 10: only to control their victims and to scare them, they
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Speaker 10: have been uploaded to porn sites where these monsters make
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Speaker 10: millions and millions.
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Speaker 1: Of dollars across the globe.
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Speaker 10: And these are things we should be looking at.
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Speaker 2: Of course, the parents aren't charged with anything now two
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Speaker 2: of them, or in ant Alon Alexander, also face State
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Speaker 2: six trafficking charges in Florida. Everybody has pled not guilty.
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Speaker 2: We wait as justice on false. Goodbye, friend the peace
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Speaker 2: attic to the position