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- 0:03Speaker 1: You're listening to Talking Traders with Me, Tamra Judge. Hey, guys,
- 0:11Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Talking Traders with Tamra, and
- 0:14Speaker 1: again we have Janelle back to break down episode six.
- 0:17Speaker 1: But we also have a special guest, somebody that Janelle
- 0:21Speaker 1: knows very well, and that is season one a winner
- 0:24Speaker 1: of the Traders.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Suri.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Hi, how are you. I'm good? How are you, ladies?
- 0:30Speaker 2: I am good.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Well.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Suri. I am so excited now. I
- 0:35Speaker 4: met you at Variety's party forty most Powerful Woman in
- 0:39Speaker 4: Reality TV. It was such an honor to meet you.
- 0:42Speaker 4: We got a picture, we didn't get to chat too much.
- 0:45Speaker 4: I believe your son was there as well.
- 0:48Speaker 3: He was. Yeah.
- 0:49Speaker 4: So, you're a four time contestant on the reality TV
- 0:51Speaker 4: show Survivor, known for your strategic gameplay and social skills.
- 0:55Speaker 4: You are a legend in reality competitive World. Twenty two
- 1:00Speaker 4: you co won Snake in the Grass with none other
- 1:03Speaker 4: than Janelle and Rachel.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Who was on season one as well.
- 1:07Speaker 4: Right Yes, and twenty twenty three, competed in Big Brother
- 1:11Speaker 4: and won the first season of Traders. Recognized of the
- 1:15Speaker 4: most iconic player in Survivor history despite ever.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Winning a game.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Isn't that something?
- 1:22Speaker 2: Explain that to us?
- 1:25Speaker 5: I don't know, Tamor I got off the couch and
- 1:28Speaker 5: I was known quote unquote as the woman who got
- 1:30Speaker 5: off the couch because I was a self proclaimed couch potato,
- 1:34Speaker 5: because I watch everything reality like I'm my life, I'm
- 1:37Speaker 5: okay with I was okay with going to work, coming home,
- 1:41Speaker 5: watching a DVR, catching up on my reality programs.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Programs.
- 1:46Speaker 5: Oh no, once you start calling them programs, I mean
- 1:48Speaker 5: you passed a certain age.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Do you also go in your pocketbook to get your
- 1:54Speaker 2: money out?
- 1:56Speaker 6: Now?
- 1:56Speaker 2: How long have you guys known each other?
- 2:00Speaker 5: Not Jeanette, Well, I've watched Janelle because I watched everything.
- 2:03Speaker 5: I watched Janelle forever, and Janelle is an icon herself
- 2:07Speaker 5: in this reality TV competition world. And then I got
- 2:11Speaker 5: to meet Janelle on Snake in the Grass And when
- 2:14Speaker 5: was that?
- 2:14Speaker 6: Like that was we were in kind of the thick
- 2:17Speaker 6: of it with COVID.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Yeah, and Janelle.
- 2:22Speaker 2: I might have read you were a bit of a
- 2:24Speaker 2: sex symbol.
- 2:25Speaker 3: Too, was I.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sexy modeling.
- 2:31Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was affiliated with Playboy back in
- 2:34Speaker 6: the day, Like I was a bikini model.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I love it.
- 2:42Speaker 4: How Sri, How did you get started in competition shows.
- 2:47Speaker 5: Being a fan and saying sitting on my couch saying no,
- 2:50Speaker 5: don't do that, don't say that.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Oh my god, my name, it's gonna serib Oh thank god.
- 2:57Speaker 2: I'm like, what is that somebody's talking. I'm like, yeah, sorry, okay, yes.
- 3:03Speaker 5: So I decided to I don't know, go I thought
- 3:08Speaker 5: I could do it, let me go try it out,
- 3:10Speaker 5: and I was out of my element. I was like,
- 3:13Speaker 5: I went on Survivor dressed like I was going on
- 3:16Speaker 5: the Bahamas cruise, and anyone that knows Survivor knows.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Like I had ankle socks.
- 3:22Speaker 5: I had like a little cute pink hat that wouldn't
- 3:24Speaker 5: keep a drop or water off of you. I thought
- 3:27Speaker 5: I knew what I was getting myself into until I
- 3:30Speaker 5: showed up there, because I was like everybody else, like, yeah,
- 3:33Speaker 5: they just gonna film it somewhere tropical just to.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Make it look good for TV.
- 3:37Speaker 5: But they're not gonna leave you out there, and they're
- 3:38Speaker 5: gonna give you food. I waited for like six days
- 3:41Speaker 5: for somebody to bring me a sandwich, and none ever came.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Now was your outfit as bad as
- 3:46Speaker 4: Janelle's outfit Bird Watching outfit.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Oh my god, episode worse.
- 3:52Speaker 5: Janelle's outfit was fabulous compared to what I had.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I had to prepaint it fucking out.
- 3:57Speaker 2: You guys had on all one color killed me. That
- 4:00Speaker 2: really killed me.
- 4:01Speaker 4: What gave you the confidence on traders to go behind
- 4:04Speaker 4: other contestants back and take the money for yourself?
- 4:09Speaker 3: So it was so at the end for us.
- 4:15Speaker 5: After the last competition, they separated us for the rest
- 4:19Speaker 5: of the day, so I never got to see Andy, Quinton, Ari, Kate.
- 4:23Speaker 5: I never saw Well this is after Kate's gone. I
- 4:26Speaker 5: never saw anyone else, and I had time to sit
- 4:29Speaker 5: by myself. And that's the worst thing you can do,
- 4:31Speaker 5: is give me time to think. And I'm sitting there thinking, Geez,
- 4:36Speaker 5: I already told Ari I would just go to the
- 4:39Speaker 5: end with him, But damn, Ari has only been a
- 4:42Speaker 5: trader for like fifteen seconds, Like, is that fair?
- 4:45Speaker 3: Should I just.
- 4:46Speaker 5: Give Ari half of the money because we recruited him
- 4:50Speaker 5: so late in the game. Now, you know, I would
- 4:53Speaker 5: think somebody like Ari could appreciate you the ability to
- 4:58Speaker 5: have a change of heart and a change of mine,
- 5:00Speaker 5: especially him.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, what broke my heart was Andy oh.
- 5:06Speaker 5: So, here's the thing, Tamra and I can't convey this enough.
- 5:10Speaker 5: And whether people believe me or they don't believe me,
- 5:13Speaker 5: that's on them. I never had. The only lie I
- 5:17Speaker 5: had to tell in the Traders was that I was
- 5:21Speaker 5: a faithful everything else, all I did was make friends.
- 5:26Speaker 5: All I did was make friends with the people I
- 5:29Speaker 5: started the game with when I got on the train.
- 5:31Speaker 5: When I entered the train, the civilians I'll call them,
- 5:35Speaker 5: were already on the train and we had as signed seating.
- 5:39Speaker 5: My seat and Rachel's seat was with Andy and Michael,
- 5:43Speaker 5: and from that we blossomed a friendship. From that moment.
- 5:47Speaker 5: I told them during that train ride, I sat with you.
- 5:50Speaker 5: I started this game with you guys. I want to
- 5:52Speaker 5: ride it out with you guys. And I meant that,
- 5:54Speaker 5: and I did that, and I never I didn't have
- 5:56Speaker 5: to manipulate Andy, I didn't have to trick any body.
- 6:00Speaker 3: I did way less than what y'all have going on
- 6:04Speaker 3: right now.
- 6:05Speaker 5: I never offered up anybody's name, like ooh, I think
- 6:08Speaker 5: so and so is a trade.
- 6:09Speaker 3: I think Cody's a trader. I think Christians are traded.
- 6:11Speaker 5: No, I sat at the round table and I listened
- 6:14Speaker 5: to the discussion, and if something ranged true with me
- 6:17Speaker 5: or something that I saw and agreed with, I may
- 6:19Speaker 5: have agreed with. But I never And that's why I
- 6:22Speaker 5: hate the term backstep. I didn't backstab anybody. I played
- 6:25Speaker 5: my game and I was myself.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Well you you know who did name names? Oh my gosh,
- 6:32Speaker 2: that would be to know.
- 6:32Speaker 5: Oh that was that was aggressive act.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Because she's played with me.
- 6:39Speaker 6: I don't hide anything when I play like I'm like
- 6:42Speaker 6: an open book, which is also not the best game.
- 6:46Speaker 6: But like I was on the poverty right away, Siri,
- 6:50Speaker 6: and you know, like I was.
- 6:53Speaker 3: And Snake in the Grass. I was impressed with that.
- 6:57Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, like Dan and Parverd and me were so.
- 7:00Speaker 6: But I didn't voice it to the other Faithfuls right
- 7:02Speaker 6: away because I thought it would benefit my game to
- 7:05Speaker 6: kind of work with them a little bit moving through
- 7:08Speaker 6: the game, because they wouldn't necessarily murder me. Right, I'm
- 7:11Speaker 6: sure you experienced as well. Rachel and Stephanie worked with you,
- 7:15Speaker 6: so you protected them absolutely.
- 7:19Speaker 3: I never want their names.
- 7:21Speaker 5: Even if they came up and the tour was shut
- 7:23Speaker 5: down immediately, like it was, there was a no go
- 7:26Speaker 5: for Stephanie or Rachel because you want to keep people
- 7:29Speaker 5: who are supporting you.
- 7:30Speaker 3: There was a no go for Andy.
- 7:32Speaker 5: We wouldn't even consider Andy's name never even came up, right,
- 7:35Speaker 5: So anybody that was a supporter of mine, I definitely
- 7:38Speaker 5: didn't want to murder them.
- 7:40Speaker 6: I wanted to keep that Adra would kill Tamer then
- 7:42Speaker 6: I just don't get it.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Well, I think she secretly doesn't like me. I'm going
- 7:46Speaker 2: to take it up at the reunion.
- 7:48Speaker 4: I'm so bummed that you guys are all going to
- 7:51Speaker 4: New York next week.
- 7:54Speaker 2: I am not going because I'm in full production of
- 7:56Speaker 2: the Housewives and it would just be too much time
- 7:59Speaker 2: away where in the heat of it right now? So
- 8:01Speaker 2: what a Yeah? I know, I know I'm bombed. I'm bombed,
- 8:05Speaker 2: But what can I do now?
- 8:07Speaker 4: I have a question for both of you. Which game
- 8:09Speaker 4: is the hardest Traders have I ever? Big Brother or
- 8:11Speaker 4: Snake in the Grass?
- 8:13Speaker 6: For me, big Brother is the hardest person okay, because
- 8:17Speaker 6: it's so long and so mental, where Traders is just
- 8:23Speaker 6: so purely social. So big Brother to me is I
- 8:27Speaker 6: mean that takes me a good two months to calm
- 8:31Speaker 6: down with my mind. Yeah, I would say Traders took
- 8:35Speaker 6: me like a couple of weeks.
- 8:36Speaker 3: I was.
- 8:36Speaker 6: I was speed texting camera after my banishment.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Because I was just so mad.
- 8:42Speaker 4: You guys, I think people don't understand, and I didn't
- 8:46Speaker 4: really expect this, but after I got home, it really
- 8:49Speaker 4: did take two weeks for me to get my head
- 8:51Speaker 4: out of the game because you were you were almost
- 8:54Speaker 4: like brainwashed because you had no outside conversations with anybody
- 8:57Speaker 4: who had no phone. I mean, I wouldn't call that
- 8:59Speaker 4: tea that we had, and the I mean, come on,
- 9:03Speaker 4: and then it's just you're like.
- 9:04Speaker 2: In a video game, yep, and it takes you a
- 9:07Speaker 2: while to get out of it.
- 9:08Speaker 5: Well, that's why Big Brother is the hardest, because it
- 9:11Speaker 5: was one hundred days of exactly what you just said, Tamra,
- 9:15Speaker 5: minus any sort of television or outside stimulation.
- 9:19Speaker 3: Period, and it's constant.
- 9:21Speaker 5: It's like your mind is in a vice grip. My
- 9:24Speaker 5: body would react like I would. I would go to
- 9:27Speaker 5: bed early because that's the only way for me to
- 9:29Speaker 5: shut it off. So I would go to bed at
- 9:30Speaker 5: ten o'clock. I didn't care what was going on. Ten o'clock,
- 9:32Speaker 5: I'm going to bed right and then I would wake
- 9:35Speaker 5: up before the Good Morning House Gus, it's time to
- 9:38Speaker 5: get up for the day, and that's how you're awake,
- 9:40Speaker 5: awoken and Big Brother. But before that would come on,
- 9:44Speaker 5: my body would start getting test like I was tense.
- 9:47Speaker 3: I would get nervous.
- 9:48Speaker 5: I would get kind of anxious because I knew it
- 9:50Speaker 5: was coming, and I knew the light was going to
- 9:52Speaker 5: be blaring, and I knew the music was going to
- 9:54Speaker 5: be on, and I knew.
- 9:55Speaker 3: It was game on all over again.
- 9:57Speaker 5: It was like Groundhall's day for ninety three read days.
- 10:01Speaker 5: So to me, yeah, to me, big Brother.
- 10:06Speaker 3: For me, Big Brother was the hardest.
- 10:08Speaker 5: I could sleep on the beach without food and getting
- 10:11Speaker 5: bitten by bugs anytime.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds wonderful, said no one.
- 10:17Speaker 4: Ever, Now their fans are asking, do you still talk
- 10:28Speaker 4: to Felicia?
- 10:29Speaker 3: I have.
- 10:30Speaker 5: Felicia and I only spoken one time, and that's when
- 10:33Speaker 5: we presented for a reality TV awards show we presented together. However,
- 10:40Speaker 5: I did just get Felicia's number from my son yesterday
- 10:44Speaker 5: right hand, and I said, you know why, and.
- 10:46Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you.
- 10:47Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it here because in the house and
- 10:50Speaker 5: Felicia can attest to this. I always played Devil's advocate
- 10:55Speaker 5: against myself because I always overanalyze anything and listen name
- 11:00Speaker 5: to the current chatter from Ari and the other folks
- 11:05Speaker 5: from the Traders. It made me look at my game
- 11:08Speaker 5: with Felicia, and I questioned myself, like, am I being hypocritical?
- 11:11Speaker 5: Because I think what Ari and them are, what Ari
- 11:15Speaker 5: specifically is doing, is bs right, especially Ari in particular,
- 11:21Speaker 5: because he should understand changing your mind.
- 11:23Speaker 3: I mean, you were the one that changed your mind
- 11:25Speaker 3: on your show.
- 11:26Speaker 5: So if that was a dirty play, if my mind
- 11:28Speaker 5: changed was a dirty play, then I.
- 11:30Speaker 3: Guess you played dirty too.
- 11:31Speaker 5: So I asked myself, am I being hypocritical by being
- 11:36Speaker 5: semi butt hurt by Felicia in a game?
- 11:40Speaker 3: It was a game, though, right, So if Ari's.
- 11:42Speaker 5: Butt hurt and I'm looking at him be but hert
- 11:45Speaker 5: and I'm saying that he's but her, am I.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Being hypocritical by doing the same thing?
- 11:49Speaker 5: And I had this conversation with my son and with
- 11:51Speaker 5: my friend Izzy, and I was like, you know what,
- 11:53Speaker 5: I don't want to be that right. I want to
- 11:55Speaker 5: I'm going to reach out to Felicia. I'm a let
- 11:57Speaker 5: her know how I feel and why I feel this way.
- 12:00Speaker 5: But it was a game and I got to move on. Like,
- 12:02Speaker 5: we spent a lot of time together. So I don't
- 12:04Speaker 5: hold any grudges against Felicia, and I'm gonna let her
- 12:07Speaker 5: know that.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Yeah. I know.
- 12:09Speaker 2: For me, I really thought that Dan was the one
- 12:11Speaker 2: that murdered me. I was convinced, and so he would
- 12:17Speaker 2: reach out to me and I would give him, you know,
- 12:19Speaker 2: half ass answered or not respond. He'll like call me,
- 12:22Speaker 2: call me, I want to talk, and I'm like, I
- 12:24Speaker 2: talking to you. You murdered me. But I totally get it.
- 12:28Speaker 3: Do you think it's.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Easier to win?
- 12:30Speaker 4: I know, is it easier to Wint to show this
- 12:32Speaker 4: show as a trader or faithful in your opinion?
- 12:36Speaker 5: Oh, it depends on your ability, your trader traitor's ability.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Like right now, isn't not looking too good.
- 12:45Speaker 5: I was talking with my friends and my izzy and
- 12:48Speaker 5: my son. We have a podcast too. I was saying, Oh,
- 12:51Speaker 5: I don't know. Right at this point, it looks like
- 12:54Speaker 5: the faithfuls may be able to pull it out in
- 12:56Speaker 5: my opinion, so it depends on your ability to be
- 13:01Speaker 5: a trader. And I think Fadra's doing a fabulous job.
- 13:05Speaker 5: I think the only problem though.
- 13:07Speaker 6: Is the Lord.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Praise the Lord.
- 13:11Speaker 3: I think the.
- 13:11Speaker 5: Only thing is what trist Schell said last night, and
- 13:15Speaker 5: the fact that Trashelle picked up on it was genius,
- 13:19Speaker 5: like she saw through Dan's ploy and she figured out
- 13:23Speaker 5: Dan knows. And I said this on my podcast. The
- 13:26Speaker 5: villagers are getting hungry and if you don't serve them
- 13:28Speaker 5: up a trader soon they're gonna start looking to the
- 13:31Speaker 5: left and the right of them.
- 13:32Speaker 3: And Dan, knowing that, tried to offer up a trader.
- 13:35Speaker 5: So if they follow in that vein, it might get
- 13:38Speaker 5: a little sketchy for a Fadra. And I think it
- 13:41Speaker 5: was particularly humorous that we attended another one of Dan's funerals.
- 13:49Speaker 5: This is Dan's second funeral, and who else to be
- 13:52Speaker 5: the funeral officiant then Fadra?
- 13:55Speaker 3: Isn't that her line of work?
- 13:57Speaker 6: It was such a great episode. I was dying, but yeah,
- 14:01Speaker 6: I like Dan had been And I don't know, you know, Tamra,
- 14:04Speaker 6: because even in episode two, if you remember, you were
- 14:08Speaker 6: still there, We're all you were on to Dan. Larsa
- 14:10Speaker 6: was on to Dan. You had MJ breathing down his
- 14:14Speaker 6: neck and he kept saying, I'm gonna give you a name,
- 14:17Speaker 6: and would I give you a name? I'm not gonna
- 14:19Speaker 6: miss Do you remember that?
- 14:21Speaker 3: Yes?
- 14:21Speaker 2: Do you think the Dan played the game.
- 14:23Speaker 6: Well, I know, given up that name earlier, like give
- 14:28Speaker 6: us if you're gonna turn on a trader, like, do
- 14:31Speaker 6: it a little bit sooner, because I feel like him
- 14:34Speaker 6: turning it up on Vader was just like too little
- 14:37Speaker 6: too late.
- 14:38Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well he was in desperate mode.
- 14:40Speaker 6: He knew going too little too late, like it needed
- 14:43Speaker 6: to be like an episode or two previous, like serve
- 14:46Speaker 6: it up now so we start trusting you because we
- 14:48Speaker 6: don't trust.
- 14:48Speaker 5: You, right, But even if you're serving it up and
- 14:52Speaker 5: you know I love poverty, black widdle for life, yes,
- 14:55Speaker 5: why not serve it up on the trader that people
- 14:57Speaker 5: are already suspicious?
- 14:58Speaker 3: So why do you ran pull.
- 15:00Speaker 5: Phadrin's name out the hat? So everybody goes, huh, that's
- 15:03Speaker 5: what I Wait a minute.
- 15:05Speaker 3: What.
- 15:07Speaker 5: Dan you could have? They were on too poverty, people
- 15:10Speaker 5: to poverty. So if you're gonna offer him up a
- 15:13Speaker 5: trader to the villagers, offer up.
- 15:15Speaker 3: The one man already on?
- 15:16Speaker 5: Why did you Because he went to work with poverty
- 15:18Speaker 5: and that was his downfall.
- 15:20Speaker 6: That's his number one though. And I know Dan when
- 15:22Speaker 6: he is working with you, and he usually just works
- 15:24Speaker 6: with one person. If he works with that one person.
- 15:27Speaker 6: He is extremely loyal to that one person.
- 15:29Speaker 4: Yeah, if you Okay, so Kate came back the season,
- 15:32Speaker 4: let's say next year or next season they call one
- 15:36Speaker 4: of you guys to come back.
- 15:37Speaker 2: I'm almost positive you would go back, right, I.
- 15:43Speaker 5: Would go back, But I feel like I would have
- 15:45Speaker 5: such a huge bullseye on my best It would be
- 15:48Speaker 5: like a neon lighted target saying I would walk in
- 15:52Speaker 5: the room and my name, instead of being three would
- 15:55Speaker 5: be target.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Hi target to say, hellot of target.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. What about you, Jane?
- 16:03Speaker 6: I would love to go back, absolutely, like of course,
- 16:06Speaker 6: I would say yes and a heartbeat.
- 16:08Speaker 5: And if you should go back, in the capacity to
- 16:10Speaker 5: give like Allan a day off like Alan had to
- 16:13Speaker 5: go to the tailors.
- 16:14Speaker 3: So I'm here, guys.
- 16:15Speaker 4: And we'll put you in one of those fabulous outfits anywhere.
- 16:20Speaker 4: And if you were to go back, would you want
- 16:23Speaker 4: to be a faithful? Would be better for you to
- 16:25Speaker 4: be a faithful or a trader?
- 16:27Speaker 2: Coming in mid season?
- 16:29Speaker 5: I don't think it would matter because they're going to
- 16:31Speaker 5: think I'm a trader and they're gonna target me either way.
- 16:34Speaker 5: But I think I could not be a trader again.
- 16:37Speaker 5: It would be too obvious.
- 16:40Speaker 6: I would want to be a well, I'd love to
- 16:43Speaker 6: play the faithful role again, but I would love to
- 16:45Speaker 6: be a trader. I was begging to be a trader
- 16:47Speaker 6: for this season, like many gamers that were put into
- 16:49Speaker 6: this game, just like you camera. So I would love
- 16:52Speaker 6: to play like a different game would be so fun.
- 16:55Speaker 4: Okay, well, let's go ahead and get into the episode.
- 17:07Speaker 3: Now.
- 17:07Speaker 2: This is episode six. It starts out with Dan says.
- 17:10Speaker 4: This murder was a huge gamble and risk, but if
- 17:12Speaker 4: it works, it'll be a huge reward. The fifth murder
- 17:15Speaker 4: has been attempted, but Bergie has a shield, so we'll
- 17:19Speaker 4: be arriving at breakfast. Did you guys see Dan's face
- 17:23Speaker 4: when Bergie walked in the breakfast room.
- 17:26Speaker 6: Yes, he looked I know Dan, and he was immediately scared,
- 17:29Speaker 6: like he was shook.
- 17:31Speaker 3: As he should have been.
- 17:32Speaker 5: It was a fatal mistake and I don't know why.
- 17:36Speaker 5: I mean, they harvedy. I don't think wanted to go
- 17:39Speaker 5: with Bergie at the previous night's tourist She said.
- 17:44Speaker 3: No, it was kind of skeptical.
- 17:45Speaker 5: They should have fought more, like, you know, this is
- 17:48Speaker 5: a trap, you being fed this information? Like why I
- 17:51Speaker 5: walk into the spider's web, but you know it late
- 17:55Speaker 5: by then they did it right.
- 17:56Speaker 4: I loved when Peter said, checkmate, Yes, yes, Peter, Peter
- 18:03Speaker 4: poverty eater.
- 18:04Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love that. So I have to
- 18:08Speaker 5: give it to Peter. I have to give it to Peter.
- 18:11Speaker 5: He is a trader slayer this season, Oh.
- 18:15Speaker 2: My god, is he? But I'm worried for him.
- 18:17Speaker 4: I'm worried next week something's gonna happen to him. But
- 18:21Speaker 4: we saw the cliffhanger.
- 18:23Speaker 5: So here's the thing I'm pinion about this. I think
- 18:27Speaker 5: he should accept. I think if I'm Peter, I'm accepting
- 18:31Speaker 5: because it can only go one of two ways. Right,
- 18:35Speaker 5: Either Poverty and Faeder are going to overtly target Peter
- 18:40Speaker 5: once he's a trader, which I don't think makes sense,
- 18:43Speaker 5: or they just handed Peter a two hundred and fifty
- 18:46Speaker 5: thousand dollars check because nobody is ever going to suspect
- 18:50Speaker 5: Peter of being a trader.
- 18:51Speaker 3: And that's why, if I'm Peter, I'm taking it.
- 18:54Speaker 5: And then and then I'm going to I'm gonna have
- 18:57Speaker 5: to stay in the vein that I'm on and I
- 18:59Speaker 5: have to continue saying poverty because if I was to
- 19:01Speaker 5: switch up, then I'm going to look suspect, and I
- 19:04Speaker 5: could explain that to Poverty, like I'm not gonna overtly
- 19:06Speaker 5: come after you, but when the discussion is held, I'm
- 19:09Speaker 5: going to maintain my stance that I think you're a trader.
- 19:12Speaker 3: I have to hance potentially getting rid of Poverty.
- 19:15Speaker 5: And that's why I think if Peter accepts, he could
- 19:18Speaker 5: potentially have his name written on the chest.
- 19:20Speaker 2: So you think you agree it's a smart move for Poverty.
- 19:23Speaker 6: To I think it's a terrible move.
- 19:25Speaker 5: I think I don't think it was a smart move.
- 19:28Speaker 5: I think I think I agree with Janelle. I think
- 19:30Speaker 5: it was a terrible move because of the reason I
- 19:32Speaker 5: just said.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Okay, so you think it's a terrible.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Move for them to recruit him, but not.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Okay, I get it.
- 19:38Speaker 6: I get a terrible move because as you know, like
- 19:41Speaker 6: you and I know Peter, Peter's personality is like super
- 19:44Speaker 6: loyal and he's like so in this I don't even
- 19:47Speaker 6: think he's he's just trying to get the faithfuls to win.
- 19:50Speaker 6: At this point, he was so kindlians and I was
- 19:56Speaker 6: in it with him, like he's not turning on Trishell.
- 19:59Speaker 6: He's not turning on John, is not turning on Burgie.
- 20:02Speaker 6: He won't turn his back on Kevin. Like, well, if
- 20:04Speaker 6: he does accept, I'm gonna be like, oh my god,
- 20:07Speaker 6: like what a great game move. But like, knowing him,
- 20:09Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Know, that's what I'm saying.
- 20:12Speaker 4: He's so loyal that I'm I'm like, oh God, he's
- 20:15Speaker 4: not gonna accept, and then it's over.
- 20:18Speaker 3: His loyalty.
- 20:19Speaker 5: Though he doesn't have to target Bergie and Trichelle and
- 20:23Speaker 5: John once he's a trader, he could actually protect them
- 20:26Speaker 5: a little more and still be playing a great game
- 20:29Speaker 5: for himself. So if he's afraid of being murdered, which
- 20:33Speaker 5: I think would be foolish on Poverties and Favor's part
- 20:37Speaker 5: to even attempt to murder him, I think to the
- 20:40Speaker 5: attempt to recruit him was foolish. But I think the
- 20:43Speaker 5: advantage lies with Peter. I think the opportunity lies with Peter.
- 20:48Speaker 6: I would say the better move for me personally, looking
- 20:52Speaker 6: at that alliance and knowing how many numbers they have
- 20:54Speaker 6: and they're known faithfuls, like the alliance is called the Faithfuls,
- 20:58Speaker 6: why not recruit Trischelle.
- 21:01Speaker 4: That's what I was going to ask you guys two questions.
- 21:03Speaker 4: Who would you recruit if that was if you were
- 21:06Speaker 4: Poverty in Phedra, you know, but it.
- 21:11Speaker 5: Could be my fangirl crush on him, though, I would
- 21:13Speaker 5: recruit CT because nobody's looking at the Teddy Bear either,
- 21:17Speaker 5: And I think CT has enough gaming experience that he
- 21:20Speaker 5: would be able to maintain his composure and keep it
- 21:23Speaker 5: hidden that he's a trader. They would never find out
- 21:25Speaker 5: that CT was a trader. So if it was me
- 21:28Speaker 5: and I was there, I would definitely I would want
- 21:30Speaker 5: CT in that turret with me helping me make game decisions.
- 21:33Speaker 4: Let's say the rules were different and Alan didn't tell
- 21:37Speaker 4: them they had to recruit somebody, but to go ahead
- 21:39Speaker 4: and with the murder. If they murdered Peter, wouldn't it
- 21:45Speaker 4: make it obvious that Poverty was a trader?
- 21:48Speaker 3: Right?
- 21:49Speaker 5: Even if it didn't, even if you were saying, oh,
- 21:52Speaker 5: that's too obvious, you would have to banish her just
- 21:54Speaker 5: for GP, just for GP, because it was so blatantly
- 21:57Speaker 5: obvious that, you know what, even if we were we're
- 22:00Speaker 5: gonna take this shot. Because Peter knew he was going
- 22:02Speaker 5: to get murdered because he was exposing traders. So if
- 22:05Speaker 5: you're a trade, if you're not a trader, sorry, but
- 22:07Speaker 5: we banishing you tonight.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:09Speaker 2: When when they show Dan sitting back, you know, I'm
- 22:13Speaker 2: just gonna enjoy your coffee, Dan, just enjoy your coffee.
- 22:15Speaker 4: I ate that little smug look on his face, like
- 22:17Speaker 4: you thought he won. And all I can think is,
- 22:20Speaker 4: just choke on your fake smile. While Bergie walks in,
- 22:24Speaker 4: just choke on.
- 22:25Speaker 2: It's his movement. He's just and then all of a sudden,
- 22:28Speaker 2: he's like, oh.
- 22:30Speaker 3: Bergie walked in. He still said he was going to
- 22:33Speaker 3: enjoy murdering Peter. So Dan still didn't think he was
- 22:36Speaker 3: going anywhere.
- 22:37Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, well, well let's see what's gonna happen
- 22:41Speaker 5: at this round table.
- 22:43Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Peter, he was very outspoken this episode, and
- 22:45Speaker 4: Peter says that the rent at the one the breakfast table.
- 22:48Speaker 4: Peter says, Dan in Parverty's face, said it all. He
- 22:52Speaker 4: is so onto them. Parverty wants to convince Peter she
- 22:55Speaker 4: isn't a trader.
- 22:56Speaker 2: She says she's suspicious of him planning seats. Peter says he's.
- 23:00Speaker 4: Trying to work with her and she's not giving him
- 23:03Speaker 4: anything now. I mean, you know, Parvety, she's ballsy, so
- 23:08Speaker 4: this is a really ballsy move.
- 23:10Speaker 2: But to turn it around on him. But to me
- 23:13Speaker 2: as a viewer, she just looks she's making herself look guilty.
- 23:17Speaker 2: She's making herself more and more look like a trader.
- 23:19Speaker 5: To me, I completely agree, I completely and I'm no party.
- 23:23Speaker 3: And that's what I'm like, Oh know you doing girls?
- 23:25Speaker 5: Especially to walk into them in the what were they
- 23:28Speaker 5: in a library and like oh what is this?
- 23:30Speaker 3: And to try to imply like one of them might
- 23:33Speaker 3: be a trader.
- 23:34Speaker 5: It was like it was so lack luster and so transparent,
- 23:37Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, almost cringey, Like stop doing that
- 23:40Speaker 5: hard making yourself look more guilty.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Though it was just me.
- 23:45Speaker 4: I'm so proud of Peter for not being swayed by
- 23:48Speaker 4: poverty or dan like, he's just no way he.
- 23:51Speaker 6: He cat onto them for a while now, and I
- 23:53Speaker 6: think that there's he's there's no way for them to
- 23:56Speaker 6: get him, get Peter off the scent. There's just no
- 23:59Speaker 6: they would have murder him or recruit him at this point.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Yeah, in the kitchen when he talked aboth them, I'm like,
- 24:04Speaker 2: oh my god, Peter, I love you so much right now.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Bye Danny Boy, Bye, Danny Boy. We'll see you later.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Are you at the reunion?
- 24:13Speaker 3: Okay?
- 24:14Speaker 5: Quite impressive, I have to say, Peter identifying them right
- 24:18Speaker 5: off the bed and stick into it and being like
- 24:20Speaker 5: a bulldog with it is quite impressive if he was
- 24:23Speaker 5: not being swayed whatsoever.
- 24:25Speaker 3: So salute to Peter, I know.
- 24:28Speaker 4: In today's mission, the players have a chance to add
- 24:31Speaker 4: twenty thousand dollars to the price fund. Players will be
- 24:33Speaker 4: firing canniballs out of catapult and they must find the
- 24:37Speaker 4: catapult pieces along the way and carry them. They will
- 24:40Speaker 4: also have to compete to earn a shield. The players
- 24:43Speaker 4: start their treacherous journey. Michelle sees the shield box and
- 24:47Speaker 4: she and Kevin start to race for it. Peter, Charret,
- 24:50Speaker 4: Sandra and Poverty find the next shield. Everyone is struggling
- 24:53Speaker 4: to carry all the catapult material.
- 24:55Speaker 2: All I was thinking was when you guys, when they
- 24:58Speaker 2: went through the water, I'm all, thank you Jesus. I
- 25:03Speaker 2: wasn't there. That looked miserable because it was so cold.
- 25:08Speaker 6: So that current is strong. You can tell by how
- 25:11Speaker 6: fast the water's running.
- 25:12Speaker 4: And most of the girls were falling on their face
- 25:15Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, I can't stand to be cold.
- 25:17Speaker 2: I'm like, oh god, I would never have.
- 25:20Speaker 5: To be cold, and I hate it. Going through that river,
- 25:22Speaker 5: it was like, oh my god. And like Janelle said,
- 25:25Speaker 5: the current was kind of like we literally had to
- 25:28Speaker 5: hold on like crabs in a barrel to keep from
- 25:30Speaker 5: falling down.
- 25:31Speaker 3: And thank god, because if Ida fell down and.
- 25:33Speaker 5: Was soaking wet like Sandra fell down, I'd have been like, Okay,
- 25:36Speaker 5: that's it.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you have to run for another forty
- 25:39Speaker 2: five minutes.
- 25:40Speaker 5: And we had to put barrels, heavy ass barrels all
- 25:44Speaker 5: the way, and the barrels were the money, unlike the
- 25:47Speaker 5: catapult that you guys had.
- 25:49Speaker 4: I was very happy that they chose Johnny Wood to
- 25:52Speaker 4: go ahead and launch launched it, and he was so
- 25:56Speaker 4: excited about it.
- 25:57Speaker 2: He's like, this is the most exciting thing that's ever
- 25:59Speaker 2: happened to me before.
- 26:02Speaker 6: John is just cute and a character like just I
- 26:05Speaker 6: think adorable.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Don't you agree? Though he was so confusing when he
- 26:10Speaker 2: first came in. He talked so much.
- 26:13Speaker 6: Were like we were just like, what is he doing?
- 26:17Speaker 6: I know, like even last night's banishment, they had to
- 26:20Speaker 6: cut that speech by about eight minutes. I'm sure it
- 26:24Speaker 6: was like a twenty minutes, like twenty minute speech.
- 26:27Speaker 2: It brought me back to being at the roundtable.
- 26:29Speaker 6: And he likes to go on and on and on,
- 26:31Speaker 6: and he liked like he loves to talk, and he's
- 26:33Speaker 6: the words he uses, the words he uses. He's a
- 26:36Speaker 6: great debater, he's a great speaker. He's a politician.
- 26:38Speaker 3: You will listen.
- 26:40Speaker 5: Yeah, what politicians that you know doesn't like to speak
- 26:43Speaker 5: and go on and on blob blobt.
- 26:46Speaker 4: That's what I told him, Like, John, you just went
- 26:48Speaker 4: around your elbow to get your ass.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Just get to the point. Why can't you just tell
- 26:52Speaker 2: us what you're thinking?
- 26:53Speaker 3: Oh?
- 26:54Speaker 2: I like that use that Poverty went for the shield.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Did that make her look less suspicious?
- 26:59Speaker 3: No, no, not at all, I think in her mind
- 27:03Speaker 3: and just basic thinking. Yeah, you would think, oh she's
- 27:07Speaker 3: gone for the shield. She must think she's gonna be murdered.
- 27:10Speaker 5: But I think at that point the suspicion is too
- 27:13Speaker 5: thick on poverty, especially from Peter in that the faithful
- 27:18Speaker 5: click whatever. So I don't think there was anything that
- 27:21Speaker 5: Poverty could do to get them off her trail or
- 27:24Speaker 5: to prove to them that she's not a trader once
- 27:27Speaker 5: you get that scent, once you get a taste of
- 27:30Speaker 5: it or a whiff of it, kind of like us
- 27:32Speaker 5: on Snake in the Grass to now, once we knew
- 27:34Speaker 5: that it was Stephanie, there was nothing that Stephanie.
- 27:37Speaker 3: We were going to go all the way.
- 27:39Speaker 5: Yeah, well not she could do to say I'm not
- 27:41Speaker 5: the snake. We're like, yeah, sure you're not.
- 27:46Speaker 3: No.
- 27:46Speaker 4: Poverty keeps going, and she's like Peter is on a
- 27:49Speaker 4: holy crusade playing the leader of the faith Balls. She
- 27:53Speaker 4: wants to break the group apart and get rid of Peter.
- 27:55Speaker 4: Parverty mentions it's very suspicious that Peter, Bergie, John Kevin,
- 27:59Speaker 4: and Trachelle are locked in together. Peter agrees, saying he
- 28:02Speaker 4: could be a trader. He's he's just the twist and
- 28:05Speaker 4: turns with this guy, or just too good. Dan tells
- 28:08Speaker 4: Peter he's been working on one person as a trader
- 28:11Speaker 4: and he will reveal them tonight. This to me just
- 28:14Speaker 4: looked really fake and desperate. Dan asked Peter to consider
- 28:18Speaker 4: what he's saying, and Peter agrees. Dan's willing to do
- 28:21Speaker 4: whatever it takes. It's time for him to go after
- 28:24Speaker 4: his fellow trader.
- 28:25Speaker 5: I think that Dan would have kept that same energy
- 28:29Speaker 5: but targeted poverty instead. It might just a slim chance
- 28:34Speaker 5: that it might have played out differently for him. The
- 28:37Speaker 5: fact that he picked Faedra was his fatal flaw. Nobody's
- 28:42Speaker 5: looking at Fadra, nobody's suspicions of Faedra. Why out of
- 28:46Speaker 5: the blue? You've been watching Phaedra since they want And
- 28:51Speaker 5: that was his flaw. And that's why I didn't got banished.
- 28:54Speaker 5: Outside of the fact that you could look at his
- 28:56Speaker 5: face and his body moving, he just seemed weird, even
- 29:00Speaker 5: pushed through it from a viewer, he seemed uncomfortable maybe
- 29:04Speaker 5: is the word. And you could kind of see like
- 29:07Speaker 5: something's wrong, what's the matter, like chill it relaxed?
- 29:09Speaker 3: Why can't you relax because you're a trader.
- 29:11Speaker 6: That's why he wasn't acting like himself. He was so
- 29:16Speaker 6: scared and just not He's usually like a very he's
- 29:21Speaker 6: got he smiles more, he laughs, he smiles. He just
- 29:24Speaker 6: never smiled ever, right.
- 29:27Speaker 5: Right, And that's what I'm saying about to you guys
- 29:29Speaker 5: about my season.
- 29:31Speaker 3: The reason I was such a good trader is because
- 29:33Speaker 3: I just was myself.
- 29:35Speaker 5: I didn't do anything extra. I didn't try to make
- 29:38Speaker 5: no big dramatic scenes. I just did what like what
- 29:42Speaker 5: we're doing right now. This is what I did as
- 29:44Speaker 5: a trader. I didn't do anything. I didn't hide, I
- 29:46Speaker 5: didn't act suspicious. I just had a good time and
- 29:49Speaker 5: made friends and got to know people.
- 29:51Speaker 3: And Dan's right game is I.
- 29:53Speaker 6: Would say your social game is one of the best
- 29:55Speaker 6: in the business though, like players like Dan is just
- 29:58Speaker 6: so good, Like he's a good backstabber, he's a good strategy.
- 30:02Speaker 6: I think your social game is like perfect because everyone
- 30:04Speaker 6: just gravitates towards you.
- 30:06Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
- 30:07Speaker 4: The acting part of it really gives it away, especially
- 30:10Speaker 4: if you know that person and you're like why because
- 30:13Speaker 4: I know Chara and to me, I got suspicious of
- 30:16Speaker 4: her at times because she was so quiet and I
- 30:18Speaker 4: don't know her as being quiet.
- 30:20Speaker 2: And then I had to.
- 30:21Speaker 4: Think about it and I'm like, after the fact, I'm like, well,
- 30:23Speaker 4: you know what, every time we do something that's out
- 30:26Speaker 4: to dinner, it's just four people, so there's a lot
- 30:28Speaker 4: of conversation. But she is just, I guess normally just
- 30:30Speaker 4: really quiet. So it kind of threw me off a
- 30:33Speaker 4: little bit. But I knew poverty was I had suspicion
- 30:36Speaker 4: of poverty. During the funeral possession, I can't even talk. Yeah, yeah,
- 30:42Speaker 4: yeah that so she you know, it was down to.
- 30:46Speaker 2: The three of them and they're walking and she looked
- 30:48Speaker 2: over at you know, where I was standing. She's like, oh,
- 30:51Speaker 2: my god, is it me?
- 30:54Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, that is the worst, the worst
- 30:58Speaker 4: acting I've ever seen in my life.
- 31:01Speaker 3: You know what I find.
- 31:03Speaker 5: I find that when the traders go out of their
- 31:06Speaker 5: way to perform is usually when they get caught. Christian
- 31:11Speaker 5: on my c event saying that he was recruited unnecessary,
- 31:16Speaker 5: he got banished. Cody saying, well, Ryan told me such
- 31:20Speaker 5: something that he wouldn't tell Kyle, who was his best friend.
- 31:23Speaker 3: It was unnecessary. Anytime they do Dan.
- 31:26Speaker 5: With this, I've been watching this person since day one.
- 31:29Speaker 5: All the unnecessary inks and antics is what gets the
- 31:34Speaker 5: traders banished. Stop with all extra chill out. Just be
- 31:38Speaker 5: yourself or.
- 31:38Speaker 6: Just act like a faithful just act normal, like you're
- 31:41Speaker 6: like they never us. They didn't trader hunt you, did
- 31:44Speaker 6: you trader hunts free? Did you participate in trader hunting?
- 31:47Speaker 3: So when you say participate, what would happen is somebody
- 31:52Speaker 3: would come and say, what do you think about so
- 31:54Speaker 3: and so. Did you see when they did this, this
- 31:57Speaker 3: and so? And if I saw it, I.
- 32:00Speaker 5: Would say, oh, you know what, I did see them
- 32:02Speaker 5: do that, But I wasn't thinking on that level. But
- 32:04Speaker 5: now that you mentioned it, yeah, that is kind of suspicious.
- 32:08Speaker 5: But what I never did was, Hey, did you see
- 32:11Speaker 5: Janelle how she came in to breakfast?
- 32:13Speaker 3: No, because I didn't have to.
- 32:14Speaker 5: It wasn't There was so many other detectives doing the
- 32:17Speaker 5: work for me. When you start doing the extra is
- 32:19Speaker 5: when you start to expose yourself. So I just would
- 32:22Speaker 5: participate in if I didn't agree. Like I told Michael,
- 32:26Speaker 5: I would never vote for him. On the train, I
- 32:28Speaker 5: told him that and Andy on the train. This is
- 32:31Speaker 5: day one just met. On the train, we locked in,
- 32:34Speaker 5: I'm not going to vote for you. So when everybody
- 32:36Speaker 5: in the villagers was like Michael Michael, I kept my
- 32:39Speaker 5: word or I didn't vote for Michael. So that's the
- 32:41Speaker 5: only time that I'm going to stand out. When it's
- 32:44Speaker 5: something that I told you I want to vote for you,
- 32:46Speaker 5: I'm not going to vote for you.
- 32:47Speaker 3: I don't think you're a trader. Other than that, I
- 32:49Speaker 3: went with the group. Well, I fright the system I
- 32:52Speaker 3: went with the group.
- 32:53Speaker 5: If y'all come up with some good reasons and it
- 32:55Speaker 5: makes sense and it has the quote unquote ring of truth,
- 32:59Speaker 5: Yeah sounds.
- 32:59Speaker 3: Good, I think, Yeah, well I have to go with
- 33:02Speaker 3: the group.
- 33:03Speaker 2: Yeah right. So well, now we're at the roundtable.
- 33:06Speaker 4: Dan announces since day one he's been watching one person
- 33:09Speaker 4: and it's finally time for it to come out. Dan
- 33:12Speaker 4: has one question for everyone. He asked them to raise
- 33:15Speaker 4: their hand if their name has been written down at
- 33:17Speaker 4: least once on the chalkboard. Dan says the least suspicious
- 33:21Speaker 4: people are Burgie, Charret, Phaedra, Sandral and Parverty. He talks
- 33:27Speaker 4: about voting patterns, asking who voted weirdly. Dan calls out
- 33:30Speaker 4: Parverty and Faedra. Are you guys like understanding dramatics?
- 33:35Speaker 3: It was so dramatic. I'm like, wait a minute, what
- 33:37Speaker 3: is this algorithm? What?
- 33:39Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's the name the algorithm.
- 33:43Speaker 2: What what the fuck was he doing?
- 33:45Speaker 6: He's calling people out here spot because that's Dan's style.
- 33:50Speaker 6: When he's ready to go after the kill, He'll put
- 33:53Speaker 6: you in the group and a lot of times you
- 33:56Speaker 6: don't have enough time to think about it, and you
- 33:58Speaker 6: can't defend yourself.
- 33:59Speaker 4: I just didn't understand his logic of questions.
- 34:04Speaker 6: He's question making his case.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really weird people answered.
- 34:08Speaker 3: I'd even like what I would have.
- 34:10Speaker 2: Said, kiss my ass.
- 34:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:12Speaker 6: Tamer would have been like, where the hell are you
- 34:14Speaker 6: going with this?
- 34:15Speaker 4: I'd be like, kiss my ass, dude, I'm not answering
- 34:17Speaker 4: your god damn questions. Dance's parverty only votes outside the norm?
- 34:22Speaker 4: Was Kevin that least Phaedra. Dan emphasizes how Faedra voted
- 34:26Speaker 4: out a ca nsue and then she was murdered that night.
- 34:29Speaker 4: Next thing, he noticed breakfast reactions when Marcus, Tamra, and
- 34:33Speaker 4: Bergie were murdered. She always have a big reaction. Now,
- 34:37Speaker 4: I think Kate said it best. It's like, have you
- 34:39Speaker 4: seen her? Everything about her is a big reaction. So
- 34:43Speaker 4: Aedra's face the entire time is like, are you shitting
- 34:47Speaker 4: me right now?
- 34:47Speaker 2: Is this happening?
- 34:49Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how my f was.
- 34:50Speaker 5: I was asked a jaw on the floor because I've
- 34:53Speaker 5: been waiting since last week. When he said I'm going
- 34:56Speaker 5: to let you know who I've been watching since day went,
- 34:59Speaker 5: I'm like, who.
- 34:59Speaker 3: Could he possibly attempted?
- 35:02Speaker 5: Never in my wildest dreams did I think it was
- 35:05Speaker 5: going to be Phaedra, so my face was just like Fadri's.
- 35:08Speaker 3: But Dan went.
- 35:09Speaker 5: Barking up the wrong tree and in the famous words
- 35:12Speaker 5: of another housewife, don't come for me unless I sent
- 35:14Speaker 5: for you, and he came for the wrong person, which
- 35:17Speaker 5: he did.
- 35:18Speaker 4: I think we all agree that throwing Phaedra under the
- 35:20Speaker 4: bus was not the right move, and also.
- 35:24Speaker 6: The reasons he backed it up with, like the ekinzuvo
- 35:27Speaker 6: no one Everyone's like, what what you got poisoned?
- 35:31Speaker 3: End?
- 35:32Speaker 6: Like no one cares.
- 35:33Speaker 4: Now, I personally think Dan and I might be wrong.
- 35:37Speaker 4: Should have gone after Poverty because there was so much
- 35:40Speaker 4: suspicion about her name already, So why throw in Phaedra.
- 35:44Speaker 4: I mean, I know we've talked about this earlier, but
- 35:47Speaker 4: it just was weird.
- 35:48Speaker 5: Smarter, not harder.
- 35:50Speaker 3: The work was done for him already. Oh he had
- 35:52Speaker 3: to and say.
- 35:54Speaker 5: You know, I hate to say this because I was
- 35:55Speaker 5: trusting this person, but trusting them allowed me to watch
- 35:58Speaker 5: them closely. Since and I do agree with you guys
- 36:02Speaker 5: that it may be that Parvety' is a trader. That
- 36:04Speaker 5: would have gotten him a way better shot at stay
- 36:07Speaker 5: in than going after Phaedra.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Yeah, so now it's time to vote.
- 36:11Speaker 4: It's the first time ever that all three people that
- 36:14Speaker 4: were written down on chalkboard were a trader.
- 36:17Speaker 2: It's the very first time.
- 36:19Speaker 4: Yeah, So eleven votes for Dan, one vote for Poverty,
- 36:22Speaker 4: and one vote for Fedra. Both party and both Pedra
- 36:26Speaker 4: and Poverty voted for Dan.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Peter voted for Poverty.
- 36:29Speaker 6: Now, that was a twist, your vote, But because he
- 36:32Speaker 6: knew that he could pin it on her, like, oh, hey,
- 36:35Speaker 6: hopefully if you don't murder me, if I if I
- 36:37Speaker 6: write your name on it, I'm the only one, it's
- 36:39Speaker 6: even gonna look more suspicious.
- 36:42Speaker 3: It was a good game move.
- 36:43Speaker 2: It was a good game move.
- 36:45Speaker 4: I think he knew that Dan needed to go, and
- 36:47Speaker 4: there was gonna be enough votes for Dan to get
- 36:49Speaker 4: him out, but to throw the suspicion out there, like
- 36:52Speaker 4: I've called Dan out and he's gonna go, and you're
- 36:55Speaker 4: gonna find out he's a trader. And then I'm gonna
- 36:57Speaker 4: say Parvaty's name because trust me.
- 37:00Speaker 3: Murder me exactly exactly. MVP so far, Oh he is
- 37:05Speaker 3: he is?
- 37:05Speaker 4: Now, Alan tells the players not to get too comfortable.
- 37:08Speaker 4: The traders are wounded and the predator is most dangerous.
- 37:12Speaker 2: When wounded.
- 37:13Speaker 4: Trachelle thinks Phaedra is actually a trader because Dan was
- 37:17Speaker 4: trying to sacrifice the trader to save himself. Smart, She's smart,
- 37:22Speaker 4: she knew.
- 37:22Speaker 3: Good on Trochelle. I was.
- 37:24Speaker 5: I was highly impressed with that, like exactly Trousselle spot
- 37:29Speaker 5: on and if I just don't know, and in my discussions,
- 37:32Speaker 5: I don't know this. Can can Trichelle move the crowd?
- 37:36Speaker 5: Can she get her group of faithfuls to listen to
- 37:39Speaker 5: her logic and target Phaedra? I don't know that yet
- 37:44Speaker 5: remains to be seen.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Not sure.
- 37:46Speaker 4: Okay, now, see because I don't want to send off
- 37:50Speaker 4: my Amazon thing over there. If people would have brought
- 37:53Speaker 4: your name up at the round table last season, would
- 37:55Speaker 4: you have thrown another trader name out there?
- 37:58Speaker 2: Would that be your strategy?
- 38:00Speaker 3: Know what?
- 38:01Speaker 5: My when my name was brought up, I kind of
- 38:04Speaker 5: defended myself in like, you give me examples of why
- 38:08Speaker 5: you think I'm a trader, and I'm going to rebut them.
- 38:10Speaker 5: I don't kind of do what Fader did. I want
- 38:12Speaker 5: to rebut what you said. I'm not going to attempt
- 38:15Speaker 5: to throw another trader under the bus. No, I didn't
- 38:18Speaker 5: target anybody, and I'm not, because that just makes you
- 38:20Speaker 5: look guilty.
- 38:21Speaker 3: It's deflection. I'm going to address what you're saying to me.
- 38:24Speaker 5: I'm going to address the accusations that you're making about
- 38:27Speaker 5: me and make you understand why they're foolish and they
- 38:30Speaker 5: don't make any sense. Yeah, I think that carries more weight,
- 38:33Speaker 5: and that's more impressive to people than you throwing someone
- 38:36Speaker 5: else under the bus for sure.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Do you think, Janelle, do you think Dan could have
- 38:41Speaker 2: said anything anything to convince the group or to save
- 38:45Speaker 2: his us.
- 38:47Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think he screwed up for
- 38:50Speaker 6: weeks saying he was going to give a name, and
- 38:51Speaker 6: he gave my name, and then everyone was like, Okay,
- 38:53Speaker 6: well if she goes out as a faithful like you,
- 38:57Speaker 6: that's your name.
- 38:57Speaker 3: Really, m looks so bad on him.
- 39:00Speaker 6: I don't think he could have done anything. He he
- 39:03Speaker 6: only had one move left to make after my banishment,
- 39:06Speaker 6: and that's to go after a trader. But he needed
- 39:09Speaker 6: to start planting seeds immediately, right, not at the end. Right.
- 39:14Speaker 3: You know, you only have thirty forty.
- 39:15Speaker 6: Minutes to get through this round table, so you need
- 39:19Speaker 6: to plant those seeds in the morning, like watch, Like
- 39:22Speaker 6: he should have immediately pointed at Fader, said, you were smiling.
- 39:25Speaker 3: You were smiling.
- 39:26Speaker 5: Why are you looking like that, Phaedia, Why are you
- 39:28Speaker 5: smiling like that if you're going to go after Phaedra
- 39:31Speaker 5: this grand stand, grandiose thing. At the end, it just
- 39:34Speaker 5: was like it's fizzled out.
- 39:36Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, Faji and Poverty meet to discuss their next murder.
- 39:43Speaker 2: There's a knock at the door. It's Alan.
- 39:45Speaker 4: He tells them they have the opportunity to recruit a
- 39:48Speaker 4: trader or murder a faithful tonight. The person they recruit
- 39:52Speaker 4: can either accept or refuse the offer. If they refuse,
- 39:56Speaker 4: they'll stay a faithful.
- 39:57Speaker 2: If Faeder and Poverty chose to seduce, there will be
- 40:00Speaker 2: no murder. Marveitie thinks they need to recruit to shake up.
- 40:04Speaker 2: She's suggests seducing Peter to start turning the tables, but
- 40:08Speaker 2: it's risky. Phaedra was pretty like, whatever you want to do.
- 40:11Speaker 2: I was shocked.
- 40:13Speaker 4: Peter is a leader in this clique and he has
- 40:15Speaker 4: been gunning for the traders hard. Would you accept and
- 40:18Speaker 4: join the other side if you were him, or stay
- 40:21Speaker 4: with your faithfuls.
- 40:22Speaker 3: If I'm Peter, I'm taking it.
- 40:24Speaker 5: I'm accepting it because I've already established that I'm a
- 40:28Speaker 5: trader hunter, and nobody in this group is going to
- 40:31Speaker 5: or just out of the blue now decide that, oh,
- 40:34Speaker 5: Peter must be must be a trader, especially once Peter
- 40:38Speaker 5: was leading the charge against Dan and Poverty and Dan
- 40:41Speaker 5: turned out to be a trader.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I'm going to accept it and laugh all the way
- 40:46Speaker 3: to the bank.
- 40:46Speaker 5: If I'm Peter, Yeah, I think it was the best
- 40:49Speaker 5: move to accept it and ride all the way to
- 40:52Speaker 5: the end and maintain his stance on who he thought
- 40:55Speaker 5: was a trader, because if he changes up right now,
- 40:58Speaker 5: it's going to make him look suspicious. So he has
- 41:00Speaker 5: that argument for his fellow traders, like, look, Poverty, I've
- 41:04Speaker 5: been saying your names for the last three tape round tables.
- 41:08Speaker 5: So for me to just out of the blue change
- 41:11Speaker 5: right now, everybody's going to look at me. So I
- 41:13Speaker 5: have to maintain my stance that you're a trader, hence
- 41:16Speaker 5: potentially getting rid of Poverty and still keeping his anonymity
- 41:20Speaker 5: as a trader.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:21Speaker 6: I mean, if I'm Peter, I'm definitely taking it. If
- 41:24Speaker 6: I'm trying to think about the long term game, and
- 41:26Speaker 6: I know Peter, so he's you know, I don't see
- 41:29Speaker 6: him turning on his alliance. He's just so loyal. But
- 41:32Speaker 6: game wise, if you're playing a game to walk to
- 41:36Speaker 6: the finish line and win, that is a great path
- 41:39Speaker 6: to take, would be to accept the seduction.
- 41:42Speaker 3: I agree, I am.
- 41:44Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what happens. I cannot wait.
- 41:49Speaker 3: I'm dying. I can't wait till next week.
- 41:51Speaker 6: This show is getting better every single episode.
- 41:53Speaker 3: Three episodes. I agree, I agree.
- 41:56Speaker 4: I wish after you get murdered you can just stay
- 41:58Speaker 4: and watch from a window to see what happens.
- 42:03Speaker 3: I'm not, but it is. It's juicy. I mean, I'm
- 42:07Speaker 3: enjoying it. Yeah.
- 42:09Speaker 6: So many twists and turns, and at this point it's like, okay,
- 42:12Speaker 6: I feel like the Faithfuls are doing really good because
- 42:14Speaker 6: now the Traders have missed. They've missed a murder, they
- 42:17Speaker 6: lost the trader if they missed the seduction to recruit,
- 42:22Speaker 6: and then a trader's going out with the next everyone's
- 42:25Speaker 6: voting for perfecty. It sounds like yeah, yeah, yeah, a
- 42:29Speaker 6: trader's game.
- 42:31Speaker 5: Yeah right, And Trichelle's already on to potentially Pajia.
- 42:35Speaker 3: If they continue to listen, like it's almost lined up.
- 42:38Speaker 3: It's lined up perfectly, but you don't know.
- 42:40Speaker 5: In this game with twists and turns, there may be
- 42:42Speaker 5: some twists that can unravel everything and put the traders
- 42:46Speaker 5: back in the first position.
- 42:48Speaker 6: Right.
- 42:49Speaker 2: Trischelle probably surprised me the most because I didn't know
- 42:52Speaker 2: her and I don't know her you.
- 42:54Speaker 4: Know, ability to play games, and I didn't like, she's
- 42:58Speaker 4: like a uh poker player.
- 43:00Speaker 2: Too, right, hooker player, Like this girl is good. She
- 43:04Speaker 2: just was so sweet and so kind and so pretty
- 43:07Speaker 2: and just like so like I didn't think, you know,
- 43:12Speaker 2: she had a dinner.
- 43:13Speaker 6: I mean I knew that like right away because I
- 43:16Speaker 6: was like, Okay, you've been on the Challenge, you know
- 43:17Speaker 6: about alliances, you're good flee and your pope, and I
- 43:22Speaker 6: had met her like a long time ago, so I
- 43:24Speaker 6: was like, it was like a natural alliance for me personally.
- 43:29Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never met her, but I've watched her forever
- 43:32Speaker 5: as well as She's a og like CT and Bananas
- 43:36Speaker 5: is from the from the Challenge. So when I saw Chrochelle,
- 43:39Speaker 5: I knew she'd be a force to be reckoned with.
- 43:41Speaker 5: But I was so surprised how quickly she picked up
- 43:44Speaker 5: on Dan trying to uh sabotage a trader to get
- 43:48Speaker 5: the sin off of him.
- 43:49Speaker 3: So I thought that was genius.
- 43:50Speaker 4: I was like, Shell, Yeah, there's a couple headlines I've
- 44:04Speaker 4: been following, you know, as the show goes on, and
- 44:08Speaker 4: right now parade article came out and said Peter is
- 44:11Speaker 4: the number one pick in this article to win the
- 44:13Speaker 4: entire game, explaining they don't think his faithful crew will
- 44:17Speaker 4: turn on him and it could be dangerous for the
- 44:19Speaker 4: traders to murder him after he'sfully coming after them, not
- 44:23Speaker 4: to mention that of the remaining cast, he seems likely
- 44:28Speaker 4: to earn a few more shields and the challenges coming up,
- 44:30Speaker 4: he's also smart enough to navigate the end game.
- 44:34Speaker 2: And they're just rooting for Peter.
- 44:37Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean, right now, Peter's got numbers, and
- 44:40Speaker 6: he's got people that trust him, and he's got a
- 44:42Speaker 6: lot of people that trust him. So I don't think
- 44:44Speaker 6: anyone has numbers like that right now. And he's also
- 44:47Speaker 6: correctly identified. I mean, I don't know if he's in
- 44:49Speaker 6: on the show, but Fader's name was definitely out there
- 44:51Speaker 6: with him. He knows who that Fader is a trader,
- 44:55Speaker 6: Like he knows he's like he was the first one
- 44:57Speaker 6: in my life, say Fadra, and I just couldn't believe it.
- 45:01Speaker 3: Yeow Yeah.
- 45:02Speaker 4: Yahoo came out with an article saying that The Traders
- 45:05Speaker 4: prove that in reality TV casting is king. By bringing
- 45:09Speaker 4: old school players from the glory days and reality TV
- 45:12Speaker 4: along with housewives whose livelihood is based on their ability
- 45:15Speaker 4: to create drama, the Traders brings genuine conflict back to
- 45:19Speaker 4: competitions where it belongs without it ever getting too uncomfortably real.
- 45:24Speaker 4: This cast that's willing to openly feud votes for others
- 45:27Speaker 4: just because they don't like them and carry bitter grudges
- 45:30Speaker 4: out the door. So, I mean, it's getting so much press.
- 45:34Speaker 4: It is just amazing.
- 45:36Speaker 6: It's such a good show. And I think it does
- 45:38Speaker 6: really come down to the cast because you put all
- 45:41Speaker 6: these different personalities. But you got to have people that
- 45:44Speaker 6: are gamers. You've got to have like the housewives with
- 45:47Speaker 6: like their wittyness so fun and they make game fun
- 45:52Speaker 6: and funny.
- 45:53Speaker 3: Yeah right, and.
- 45:54Speaker 6: It's also are just clueless too, so you've got to
- 45:56Speaker 6: have all those elements.
- 45:58Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:58Speaker 4: So, Straight Dreaming numbers came out for ratings and it
- 46:03Speaker 4: is the number one unscripted show in the United States.
- 46:08Speaker 2: Now do you think.
- 46:12Speaker 4: Playing with just reality people is it would be easier
- 46:18Speaker 4: or like, sure, when you were on it, you had
- 46:22Speaker 4: jam thought, yeah you had you know, you had just
- 46:25Speaker 4: regular people, and we're all regular people.
- 46:26Speaker 2: I don't know how to say.
- 46:27Speaker 4: It, non civilians, non TV people on there.
- 46:34Speaker 3: I think.
- 46:37Speaker 5: I think it would be more difficult. I think it's
- 46:42Speaker 5: hard either way, because look at for you guys to
- 46:46Speaker 5: season you had all Reality TV stars, and look how
- 46:50Speaker 5: difficult it was for Deontay right. And when I say
- 46:54Speaker 5: that is because it doesn't matter if it's civilians or
- 46:57Speaker 5: if it's Reality TV people. Your emotions get involved, your
- 47:01Speaker 5: anxiety levels are increased. Like you said, it took you
- 47:05Speaker 5: some weeks to kind of decompress. That all remains the
- 47:09Speaker 5: same regardless of if it's civilian people or Reality TV people,
- 47:13Speaker 5: because this becomes your reality. You get so engrossed in
- 47:17Speaker 5: whatever position you're playing that I don't think it really
- 47:21Speaker 5: matters if it's I think the only thing that may
- 47:24Speaker 5: matter is the level of participation, maybe higher from the
- 47:29Speaker 5: gamers people with history of playing games.
- 47:32Speaker 3: Other than that, I think it's just.
- 47:34Speaker 5: As difficult, irregardless if you're a civilian or reality start.
- 47:38Speaker 2: Do you find that like you had civilians on your
- 47:41Speaker 2: show that were like, you know, fanning out on people
- 47:45Speaker 2: and wanted to get close to them because they're you know,
- 47:47Speaker 2: oh you're my favorite on you know, Big Brother or whatever.
- 47:51Speaker 5: Yeah, that kind of happened for me, Like Michael when
- 47:53Speaker 5: I met them, Michael on the train, he was like,
- 47:56Speaker 5: oh my god, I saw you on Rachel's name and
- 47:58Speaker 5: I couldn't believe it. So I think it might have
- 48:01Speaker 5: helped in my favor a little bit because they know
- 48:03Speaker 5: my history and as Dan. As Janelle speaks of Dan
- 48:08Speaker 5: and says how loyal he is, I'm known also for
- 48:10Speaker 5: being quite loyal to you if you're loyal to me.
- 48:14Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, that may help you in my.
- 48:17Speaker 5: In a reality TV person's favor, if they have a
- 48:20Speaker 5: good background, if they have a background of loyalty or
- 48:25Speaker 5: trustworthiness or something other than backstabbing and scheming, Yeah, it
- 48:29Speaker 5: may help in your favor if you're playing with civilians.
- 48:32Speaker 5: But outside of that, not really.
- 48:35Speaker 2: Now back it up. You were actually on that train.
- 48:39Speaker 2: We didn't get a train.
- 48:40Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we went on a Harry Potter train.
- 48:44Speaker 5: We were at the station and then the train pulled
- 48:48Speaker 5: up and we had assigned seats and we got on
- 48:51Speaker 5: the train and we rode for a little while and
- 48:53Speaker 5: we got to know who we were sitting with. I
- 48:55Speaker 5: was sitting with Rachel, Michael and Andy, and that's how
- 49:00Speaker 5: our friendship started to blossom.
- 49:01Speaker 3: So yeah, the train we got on, the lovely Harry
- 49:03Speaker 3: Potter train.
- 49:05Speaker 6: I feel like that's just like Tamra are like the
- 49:07Speaker 6: land Rovers that we were in, and I think that
- 49:10Speaker 6: is so important to the four people. The three other
- 49:12Speaker 6: people that I was with was Bergie Fadra and that's
- 49:15Speaker 6: why I always trusted Fadris so blindly and CT.
- 49:18Speaker 2: So those I was in guess who was in my car?
- 49:23Speaker 3: I think you were with Dan, weren't you Dan?
- 49:26Speaker 2: Poverty and h etc. And Sue okay wow.
- 49:31Speaker 4: And then Kevin last minute jumped innoyed the ship.
- 49:34Speaker 6: Out of my initial you know, the first fod the
- 49:37Speaker 6: whatever land Rover because I remember Sandra was always so
- 49:41Speaker 6: close to uh Charat and I remember her being in
- 49:45Speaker 6: that same and Peppermint and she was always so close
- 49:48Speaker 6: with Peppermint and like those Well, because.
- 49:50Speaker 4: It's your first initial bonding experience or with these people
- 49:53Speaker 4: that you ride with, you know, you're in that car
- 49:55Speaker 4: for a couple hours, and you you know what I mean.
- 49:58Speaker 4: So you're like, oh, and we even like a like
- 50:01Speaker 4: a trust bond as we're driving to the castle, like
- 50:03Speaker 4: it's us, the four of us, the Core four.
- 50:07Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, and we did the exact same thing. We
- 50:10Speaker 6: were like, I've got your back in this game. Like
- 50:13Speaker 6: I was like, Phaedra, I got you. She's like, girl,
- 50:16Speaker 6: She's like, I trust.
- 50:17Speaker 3: You no matter what.
- 50:18Speaker 6: I'm not writing your name down and I never did,
- 50:21Speaker 6: never believed it.
- 50:22Speaker 2: Well, guys, I could sit and talk to you guys forever,
- 50:25Speaker 2: but this housewife's got to get her face on and
- 50:28Speaker 2: go slice some bitches. So I'm just joking. I'm on
- 50:33Speaker 2: my best behavior. So thank you so much. This was
- 50:38Speaker 2: so much fun. Pleasure to see you again. I don't
- 50:42Speaker 2: want to say your name because you know that thing's
- 50:44Speaker 2: going to go off again.
- 50:45Speaker 3: See. Well, thank you for having me. This was so
- 50:49Speaker 3: much fun and it's a great season.
- 50:51Speaker 5: Janelle, I miss you, lady. We're gonna have to catch
- 50:53Speaker 5: up outside of this.
- 50:55Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna send you a text. We got to
- 50:57Speaker 6: catch up. It's been too long.
- 50:58Speaker 2: Yeah, and Janelle, thank you You're amazing as always. I
- 51:02Speaker 2: love you too. You guys have a great weekend, you
- 51:05Speaker 2: do okay, good
- 51:07Speaker 3: Bye, good bye,