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Ep. 5: Preseason Week is Here! | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Well, we finally have an answer as to whether Trevor
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Lawrence is going to be participating in that Netflix series Quarterback.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Which player on this team do you think needs.
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: Their own reality show?
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  Speaker 3: You?
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  Speaker 4: I think you need your own reality show?
• 0:15
  Speaker 5: Do it?
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: Welcome into jags Am.
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  Speaker 1: It is August seventh and training camps getting ready to
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: get started. I don't even know what day we're on anymore,
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: so I apologize dye eleven. All right, Cool, we're definitely
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: in our second week, that's for sure, because I've lost
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  Speaker 1: count of the days.
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  Speaker 6: We welcome you, and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Kay Nannie, Stevens, John and Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Are with me.
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  Speaker 4: You just realize you're actually in your own reality show.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this feels like one every single morning. It
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: does feel that way to me.
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  Speaker 6: I think since the questions a layup.
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  Speaker 7: I think Cisco's watch the Dewey reality show twenty four
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  Speaker 7: to seven that skip work.
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  Speaker 6: I would be homeless. I think it's the same episode
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  Speaker 6: day after would you not watch? Would you not watch?
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  Speaker 2: Cisco?
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  Speaker 1: Though he does stand up comedy in his free time,
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  Speaker 1: he's taking a pickle ball for some reason.
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  Speaker 4: I no, No, he's He's definitely an interesting guy.
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  Speaker 6: I like there's the same position, so do he would
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  Speaker 6: probably have him on.
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  Speaker 1: As a guest a lot, so we could do the
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  Speaker 1: whole like that's chunk of the defense.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, I would the safety reality show give
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  Speaker 4: me Cooper Hodges, the rookie from Baker County. I hear
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  Speaker 4: he lives just like you go out his back door
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  Speaker 4: and you walk across the back space there because I
• 1:39
  Speaker 4: don't think it's a lawn and into Georgia. And he's
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  Speaker 4: a fantastic interview and a great kid. And I hear
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  Speaker 4: he's got to rock his fun family, So I think
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  Speaker 4: he would. He would do good with one.
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  Speaker 1: We have to get we have to get him involved somehow.
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  Speaker 2: I love him. Tug Boat. I'm just a huge fan.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously that's his nickname.
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  Speaker 6: What tug boats? Hug Boats.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not great.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's quickly get into our big things for today.
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  Speaker 1: So our first big thing one I mentioned a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: no thanks. Trevor came out and answered the questions people
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  Speaker 1: were speculating whether he was going to be involved in
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  Speaker 1: the second season of the Netflix show. Quarterback Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 1: was on it last season with Kirk Cousins and Marcus Mariota,
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  Speaker 1: and this is what Trevor had to say when asked yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was I was approached. You know, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: decided to not do it this year, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: that was just something where I feel like, just not
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  Speaker 3: the right time for me. Who knows, maybe in the future,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, I think it's a really I watched
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  Speaker 3: the show though the show was great. I think they
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: did a great job. So but yeah, that's pretty much it.
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  Speaker 1: There very polite way of answering that question from Trevor saying,
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe some point, but not right now. And
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is him wanting to
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: focus on the season, which is commendable. You want to
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  Speaker 1: hear that from your quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I think part of it is why would you do it?
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  Speaker 4: I mean people do those crazy big brother you know,
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  Speaker 4: survivor things for money. Well, he's got the money and
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  Speaker 4: he's going to get money, so why do you need
• 3:01
  Speaker 4: to let the cameras in when you've already got the money.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think too, it sounded to me like he
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  Speaker 7: thinks it could be something that would be interesting to
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  Speaker 7: do down the road. And I know Mahomes did it,
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  Speaker 7: but Mahomes has been in the same system and living
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  Speaker 7: his same life, so to speak, since twenty eighteen, so
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  Speaker 7: he's got five years where he doesn't worry about the routine.
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  Speaker 7: They're still getting sort of everything down here. I could
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  Speaker 7: see him thinking it would be fun to do in
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  Speaker 7: a year or two, once he knows exactly what his
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  Speaker 7: routine is every year.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, Patrick Mahomes already won a Super Bowl. There's
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  Speaker 1: a little less pressure if you want to follow him around.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine so obviously, and I think a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have watched the series.
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota didn't come off great after it, so yes,
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and Pat Mahomes look great, but you could
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  Speaker 1: get the other end of the spectrum too, And there's
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  Speaker 1: always that risk when you're kind of behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: e with it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: No, I just you want to go.
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  Speaker 4: For it, Well, no, I give me the money, right,
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  Speaker 4: I've already got the money, so I don't need to
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  Speaker 4: let you in to pay me more. I would rather
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  Speaker 4: have my privacy and my money than live my life
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  Speaker 4: on a I mean, let's be honest. Every single person
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  Speaker 4: who's watching this right now has something they don't need
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  Speaker 4: people to see.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, that's true. Keep your private life private.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he's gonna do for now, so he won't
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  Speaker 1: be on the second season. We now know that our
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  Speaker 1: second big thing today is playing it safe. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to take a little contrary in view from you guys,
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  Speaker 1: because I know how you kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell obviously suffered a concussion the other day, and
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  Speaker 1: not that that was complete freak injury obviously him just
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  Speaker 1: falling down and kind of colliding with Kirk's knees at
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  Speaker 1: that point. But I at this point, I'm really like,
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  Speaker 1: let's kind of conserve what we have here. I think
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  Speaker 1: when you know what you have, it's a little less
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  Speaker 1: of trying to get them out there and playing. So
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  Speaker 1: when we talk about you know, going full speed and
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  Speaker 1: practice and getting that physicality, we saw it a little
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  Speaker 1: bit yesterday, But then I think, did you mention it?
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  Speaker 1: Doug kind of like pulled them in and it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like trying to well.
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  Speaker 7: That's what Walker Little told Hey's Caroline from ten ten.
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  Speaker 7: He said after period or before period eight.
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  Speaker 6: He kind of brought him in.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think he liked a couple of the hits
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  Speaker 7: that happened early because it wasn't on the script for
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  Speaker 7: the day. So I my sense is that there will
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  Speaker 7: be some hitting today. It's a live day, so my
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  Speaker 7: sense is that'll be the only one of training camp
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  Speaker 7: because nothing else really fits unless they do some hitting
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  Speaker 7: with the Lions, which I'd be surprised by.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 7: Everything in camp is done for a reason. There's a
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  Speaker 7: reason Doug wanted the hitting to be today if that's
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  Speaker 7: the day, So I don't think he loved that.
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  Speaker 6: And keep him safe, I agree, you say Contrarion.
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  Speaker 1: View, Well, I know you guys are old school, so
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  Speaker 1: you're the two a day kind of guys, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like, super, let's keep everybody well.
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  Speaker 4: It's worth noting that the mentality has changed, right. I
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  Speaker 4: Mean I had this conversation with someone in the practice
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  Speaker 4: field yesterday and it was how much do you want
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  Speaker 4: to see the starters play in the day when they
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: practiced twice a day, you wanted to see the starters
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  Speaker 4: play a little bit in the first, more in the second,
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  Speaker 4: the most in the third, and then kind of peter
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  Speaker 4: them out in the fourth and they don't play in
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  Speaker 4: the fourth game. Well, now there's only three games, and
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  Speaker 4: it seems like you're gonna see maybe a smidge of
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  Speaker 4: the starters in game one, a little bit more too,
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  Speaker 4: and then nobody in game three. And if anybody's even
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  Speaker 4: nicked up, you don't practice them in August. Well, that
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  Speaker 4: just goes against what the game used to be keyword
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  Speaker 4: John being used to be. Now that's the way. Your way, right,
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  Speaker 4: is the way that it's done.
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  Speaker 7: The old man in me, which is me, it tells
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  Speaker 7: me that you know, yes, this this is not training
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  Speaker 7: camp anymore. These are pad at OTAs, which is fine.
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  Speaker 7: Couldn't agree more. It's you know, campus two days where
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  Speaker 7: you were just dragging by the end of the.
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  Speaker 6: Day all that. It shouldn't be that way anymore.
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  Speaker 7: The salary cap and the important of each key core
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  Speaker 7: player has made this different. In the nineties, it was
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  Speaker 7: a little bit this way, but it wasn't like now.
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  Speaker 7: Teams have six or seven guys. If you lose two
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  Speaker 7: of those six or seven core guys, your season is
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  Speaker 7: over and as a coach, you're probably getting fired at
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  Speaker 7: the end of the year because the owners going, why
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  Speaker 7: did I pay all this to lose these guys in
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  Speaker 7: training camp? You should manage this better. So I get
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  Speaker 7: why they don't do it. And I think dougall hit today.
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  Speaker 7: I think he believes I've got to take a little
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  Speaker 7: and hits to the ground today. Right, he did that
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  Speaker 7: last year once, right, that's today. I think he believes
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  Speaker 7: there is a calculated risk needed to get ready, and
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  Speaker 7: then you you mediate that risk by having it being
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  Speaker 7: very short in a very controlled situation. But it just
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  Speaker 7: can't hit constantly in training.
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  Speaker 6: Can No, you can't.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not suggesting you go back to two a
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  Speaker 4: days where you do hit like that. That doesn't make
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  Speaker 4: any sense, especially when you're adding games to the schedule.
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  Speaker 4: You know, these guys you got to manage your body
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  Speaker 4: now over eighteen weeks, so you've got to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that you're in shape to do that. But when well,
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  Speaker 4: it's like the question that I asked Doug last week.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you saw Joe Burrow go down with the
• 8:01
  Speaker 4: calf strain. Okay, and you saw who was it in Miami?
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  Speaker 4: No Jaalen Ramsey. You know, not really even in a
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  Speaker 4: contact drill, just negos, right, they're not even the pads.
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  Speaker 6: It happens.
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  Speaker 4: And so Doug said, you can't pull back entirely. You
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  Speaker 4: can't just react to every injury that happens, and that's
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  Speaker 4: the part of it where you kind of have to
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  Speaker 4: stay true to that. I got to get some contact.
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  Speaker 4: I got to get some hitting in because otherwise it's
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  Speaker 4: October before my guys are used to the contact.
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  Speaker 7: You have to have your plan and you have to
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  Speaker 7: stick to it, except that sometimes there's gonna be risks,
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be injuries, but you have to trust that
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  Speaker 7: you're playing will work over the long term.
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  Speaker 4: Nante Fowler Junior, first day of rookie minute camp wearing
• 8:40
  Speaker 4: not even a helmet. Tear's his acl Those things happen.
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  Speaker 1: Can't prevent those things going into our final big thing
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  Speaker 1: game day. We have a game this week, They're playing
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Saturday, and we did talking about that.
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  Speaker 1: How much are we going to see the starters? Trevor
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  Speaker 1: was asked how much time he feels he needs to play,
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: If he needs to play in the preseason, I'd be
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  Speaker 1: surprised if you see.
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: To get some reps, and especially you got a few
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  Speaker 3: new pieces, get some get some live game reps where
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  Speaker 3: it is full speed, it's full contact. You know there's
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  Speaker 3: something on the line. You know I think that's definitely valuable.
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  Speaker 3: You know who knows how much that will be. Whatever
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  Speaker 3: it'll whatever it is, I'll be ready. And uh, you
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  Speaker 3: just want to be clean. You want to execute, you
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: want your offense to look sharp, you want to you
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  Speaker 3: want to make the plays, you want to be smart,
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  Speaker 3: do all that stuff, and just be clean. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's the main objective.
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  Speaker 2: John, to let you get to it. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: we see Trevor this week at all.
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  Speaker 6: Well, after I said that, maybe a series.
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  Speaker 4: We talked about this in the practice field yesterday. The
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  Speaker 4: first preseason game was the Raiders. Last year, he didn't
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: play at all, but the second yeah right, yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: this week, right, which was game two for them but
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: Game one for everyone else, he had twelve pass attempts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I could see that.
• 9:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I I could see that. I could
• 9:49
  Speaker 7: see into the second quarter next week and then nothing
• 9:53
  Speaker 7: in the last right.
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  Speaker 4: Which gives you a couple of extra weeks because remember
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  Speaker 4: now with the three games, you have that week between
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  Speaker 4: the and the regular season, so you've got two weeks
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: at that point to get ready. So he'd have a
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: chance to be sitting for three weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: Someone would argue that three weeks. If not playing is
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: you're practicing, you're getting some time in. I'll offer this
• 10:13
  Speaker 4: counter two next week when we go to Detroit, they
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: have those two days of practicing against the Lions, and
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: I can remember in twenty nineteen when we went to Baltimore,
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: Doug Maron talking about how valuable that time was and
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: almost is valuable, if not more than the actual game reps,
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  Speaker 4: was his response. So expect next week, despite what we
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: see this week in Dallas, expect to see a lot
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: of matchups where they get players on players, specific players
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: on specific players to try to get the most out
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: of those practice sessions as they can.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Joint practice can be super helpful for both teams, I think,
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: to finally get some action against you know, you're not
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: playing yourselves right, so that always helps and gets the
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: competition level up a little bit. All right, Coming up,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go to coach's corner hear what they
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: have to say about what they've been seeing so far
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: in training camp and who been standing out. Stay with
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  Speaker 6: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: We're here in Hyundai Podcast Studios, training camps, getting going,
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: players out there stretching. Another day out in the sun
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  Speaker 1: and a live hit day. As we mentioned, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be very physical today, so we'll have a lot
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: to talk about later.
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  Speaker 6: On in the week.
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  Speaker 1: The good thing about training camp is we get to
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  Speaker 1: see everything every single day. The coaches are talking every
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: single day, so we get to kind of go through
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: everything and hear their perspective of how the players are
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: doing at training camp. So obviously Doug Peterson talks every
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: couple of days and John you actually asked him specifically
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: about Tank Bigsby's progression, and here's what he's.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: Had to say.
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  Speaker 8: This kid is outside of like the size of speed,
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  Speaker 8: I less of all that, but this kid is he's
• 12:04
  Speaker 8: a sponge, you know, and he's really a smart, smart
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  Speaker 8: young running back.
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  Speaker 9: Understands defense, understands you know. One of the things, really too,
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  Speaker 9: that that's been impressive is how well he's taken the coaching,
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  Speaker 9: whether it be from Bernie or myself or even Phil
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  Speaker 9: you know, ralsher being able to take that and apply
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  Speaker 9: it to what he's doing.
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  Speaker 6: And he's he's just improven every day.
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  Speaker 1: Before answer, Johnny, do you want to mention when you
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  Speaker 1: ask this question, you preface it with asking about Bigsby,
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  Speaker 1: and Doug looked at you with a blank face for
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: about ten seconds before he realized you meant tank because
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: they literally just think of him as a tank.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I think that says a lot. Yeah. I had
• 12:45
  Speaker 6: a moment where I was like, did I ask the
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: wrong man? I think we all did.
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  Speaker 7: Really, I've asked many bad questions. I didn't think that
• 12:51
  Speaker 7: was one of them. He's impressive and I have a
• 12:55
  Speaker 7: hot take coming up later about him, so I won't
• 12:59
  Speaker 7: burn all that off. What I will say is it's
• 13:02
  Speaker 7: significant what he talked about just there with how he's
• 13:06
  Speaker 7: taken coaching, because they have talked about Traves DTN and
• 13:11
  Speaker 7: needing to work with him on setting up blocks, setting
• 13:15
  Speaker 7: up runs, and becoming a better runner. That was something
• 13:19
  Speaker 7: Travis needed to work on this offseason. It sounds like
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  Speaker 7: Bigsby's got that, So I think the kid might have
• 13:26
  Speaker 7: a chance to be a star.
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  Speaker 4: So, which is long because John throws that term around
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: like manhole covers for most people, so I'll say this
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: about it. And I talked to him yesterday and we
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: shook hands because it was the first time I had
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: met him, and I came in, I said to you,
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: have you ever shook his hand. It's the strongest grip
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  Speaker 4: I've ever felt. I mean it felt like he was
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: squeezing for me to go to my knees. I think
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: I have a pretty good grip. His is one hundred
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  Speaker 4: times stronger. I mean, I was like, I was impressed.
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  Speaker 2: He's not gonna be letting go of the football.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and look, he's completely built different, John, And I
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: know you've got a hot take, so I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to He is just a different body style than ETN.
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  Speaker 4: And you can see this is a guy who at
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: Auburn ran between the tackles. I can remember when they
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: drafted him, you know, talking to people, this is a
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  Speaker 4: very patient runner. He understands how to follow the blocks.
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  Speaker 4: I think they used him differently at Auburn, and I
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  Speaker 4: think it's more suited for him to come in and
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  Speaker 4: have an impact as a rookie. Perhaps, but I won't
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  Speaker 4: say that power.
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  Speaker 6: Is his game because he's got it elsewhere on the offense.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Press Taylor spoke this week and he talked a little
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: bit about getting Chad Hall in as the wide receivers coach.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: He was in Buffalo before and just kind of the
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: distinct style he's brought here and how he goes about
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: coaching the wide receivers.
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  Speaker 10: Chad was our first call and we kind of extended
• 14:40
  Speaker 10: an offer, wanted to see where that went. Gave him
• 14:41
  Speaker 10: a lot of time with it because everything we knew
• 14:44
  Speaker 10: from him, from Doug's experience with him, mutual contacts with him,
• 14:48
  Speaker 10: Heath's relationship with him, we just felt like he'd be
• 14:50
  Speaker 10: a fit with us, with our room, with our staff.
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  Speaker 10: So he was really the only one when after and
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  Speaker 10: certainly excited with what he's done so far. There are
• 14:58
  Speaker 10: certain coaches that everybody the league is used to seeing
• 15:01
  Speaker 10: on sideline TV copies running up and down the sidelines.
• 15:04
  Speaker 10: Chad's one of those. So now he's on our sideline,
• 15:06
  Speaker 10: so hopefully that that brings some uh some value, some
• 15:09
  Speaker 10: in game energy to our group.
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  Speaker 2: It was definitely popular in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 4: We know St.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Fon Diggs was not happy when Chad Hall left town.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: He do see him doing some quirky stuff, if only
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: because of the way that the wide receivers are reacting
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: to some of the drills because it looks like they're
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: doing it maybe for the first time. So he does
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: have kind of his own way.
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  Speaker 6: And he's sort of the boxing drills where he's punching.
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  Speaker 2: Hands like that.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: You can tell they haven't done it before, so they're like, oh,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: they pick it up quickly, of course, but just it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: They work out right, you know, they're they're right there
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: right in front of us in the morning, and he
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: puts them through really meticulous, detailed drills where he'll have them,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: you know, torque to a certain angle with one foot
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: forward and one foot back and stop and then start
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: running and then stop before they hit the later and go.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's really he's got a reason for everything
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: that he does. And it's interesting to watch the way
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: that those veteran receivers are adjusting to him. I think
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: they like him a lot.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I think they all love him. You'll take to what
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: he's saying very quickly.
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  Speaker 6: Like but he's called different methods him, yes.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: And that's got to be helpful, especially even Calvin Ridley's
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: excited to do a lot of that stuff. So it's
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: they're interesting to watch John, have you ever seen kind
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: of those kind of drills before in that way?
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  Speaker 6: Not really.
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  Speaker 7: My think with the position coach is this, if if
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: the players like it and buy in, then he can
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: be an effective coach that works and you know, you
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: can have all the knowledge you want.
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: If players, especially in this league where.
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: They tend to get jaded very quickly on a style
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: and can shut you out, if they're responding to it,
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: it's going to help them.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: So he's got that ability, which is impressive.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: All right, quickly, we'll go to special teams. Heath Farewell
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: spoke to us special teams coordinator and he told us
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: that in the off season, Andre Cisco came to him
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: and said he wanted to be part of special teams.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: So the off season he came to me as a coach,
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: I'd love to be a returner, you know, get back
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: there with those guys. No problem, did it. He's been great.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: He's he started out just learning the position, and if
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: you guys have watched some of the training camp practices,
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: he's been great. He catches him clean, he's smooth, he's reliable,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: he's smart, he's tough. He's a guy that they can
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: compete for. That you know that emergency guy.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Now, love the initiative.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: He does look great out there, but I think the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: keyword is emergency because hopefully Andrew's.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Not doing that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have asked him to leave my office.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: He's entertaining it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: No, I want you to be a free set. But
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: all kidding aside, you don't want him in that, just
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: like in the same press conference he was talking about
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: Christian Kirk and hey, it's great, Christian did a nice job.
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: We don't want him out there during that time. So, yeah,
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: it's an emergency thing, and I think it speaks to
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: Cisco's buy in and his approach player.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: You like guys that want to do yeah, no doubt,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: no doubt, multi dimensional players who are willing, but one thing.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: They have to do that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, fingers Cross doesn't come to that point. All right,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: coming up, we're going to do our hot Takes segment,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: So stay with us. Training camp just getting going. We're
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: here in the Hundai Studios.
• 18:06
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  Speaker 1: car Shield and things are underway out there today. Going
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to be live, hard hitting, full padded practice. We'll see
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: a lot about what this team is made of. I
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: have no doubt we're gonna do some quick hot takes
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: though before we get into that, and I'm excited to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: see what you guys have for hot takes. Tempered mine
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Come on, I don't think I'm crazy crazy,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: but fair enough.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: All right, you go first, I will and I did. Look,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: this is going to sound crazy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I think that Dewey is in for a fight now
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: that I know they gave him guaranteed money, and it
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: would have been great to have your reality show this summer.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: But there are two young safeties who are very talented
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: in Antonio Johnson from Texas A and M and Latavious Brittany,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: the young undrafted rookie from Arkansas tall, both six three
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: effortless athletes, and they make plays every day on the
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: practice field.
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  Speaker 6: I get it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: It was always the Jags. He's an institution here. He
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: made big plays into important games last year against Baltimore Dallas,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: which is why the Jaguars gave him that guaranteed money.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: So I think he makes the team. But man, he's
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: got a fight on his hands because these are two
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: young guys. He's really gonna have to push away and beat.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: He's gonna have to.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Play in the preseason because these two guys are gonna
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: play and make plays.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: If he doesn't make it, maybe he can go work
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: at Fox with Urban.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: That.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: No, yeah, I don't agree.
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: I mean I think he will be pushed, pushed in
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: a sense. I don't think there's a scenario where a
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: healthy dey Ingrid doesn't make the fifty three.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Selfishly, for my own entertainment sake, I hope you are wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying watch this battle because a couple of
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: years ago, before the legend of Dewey was born. Last
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: year we were talking about this was a guy that
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: was a special teamer and you're always trying to replace
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: those guys. Well, these two guys are going to push
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: him because you look at six foot three with the
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: long armspan, that's not his game. So they've got to
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: go prove it. He's proven it. I think he makes
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the team. They gave him the guaranteed money. But he's
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: in for a fight.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: All right, John, you told us your a little preview
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that your hot take might be about Tank.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So what do you got?
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  Speaker 7: Well, you know, and it's a little tricky because you
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: don't have a hot take. And I'm saying that Tank
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: Bigsby's going to push Traves Etn junior. And when I
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: say that, this is going to be a backfield much
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: more rotational than it was last year. So I don't
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: think there's any danger of Travis Ytn not being a
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: really important piece. I think it's going to look a
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: lot different than I did last year when after James
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: Robinson was traded, it was a clear where you looked
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: up and you were surprised when Travis Etn wasn't in
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: the game.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: You were, okay, well they're in this package. It's different.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: I think you're gonna get used to seeing Tank Bigsby.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure I would guess that Travis will lead
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: the team in rushing. But the good part about this
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: take is him pushing it. I think is going to
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: push them both into the roles that they need to play.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: I think Bigsby is going to be very good in
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: short yards, to be a very good base a runner.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: And you wonder, Brian, if there isn't a scenario where
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: ETM has a really big season with maybe fewer carries,
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: fewer yards and more touchdowns and big plays, and you think.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's what that kid is.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: He's a big play player who can stress defenses all
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: the time, maybe a nine hundred yard rusher with Tank
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: running for eight hundred.
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  Speaker 9: Well.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: The interesting thing is earlier this week, late last week
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: they all run together. Doug was talking about sixteen hundred
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: yards for ETN. That's more East Jones Drew territory. That's
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Fred Taylor territory. I just personally, I and I'm not
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: the head coach, but I don't see him as that
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: kind of of a bruiser, because.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: That's what you have to be.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: And I look at Bigsby and I think this kind
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: of is like the DeAndre Swift Miles Sanders backfield that
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: the Eagles use so well last year, so effectively. Of
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: course they had a more mobile quarterback, but I'm with you,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Bigsby is impressive and strong and powerful and looks like
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: that between the tackles runner that I still don't see
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: ETN as being that guy.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: Yang both of their Day two rookies, Bretton Strange, who
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: I didn't mention in this I think that Day two
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: class we wrote it and said it right after the draft,
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: is going to give this offense the kind of versatility
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: that Doug had in Philly. I think it's taken him
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: a year to get that personnel and now all of
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: a sudden, you look and there is a lot of
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: you know, that was the theme over the weekend multiple
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: ness on offense. I think they've got it, and I
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: think Bigsby's a bigger reason they got lots of it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: All Right, I'm going with my hot take. Mine is
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that Cooper Hodges will be starting on the offensive line
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: by next year. And I say this is a hot
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: tic only because he's a seventh thround pick.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Tugboat, tug boat and he does a.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Cart wheel before practice every day. Now he's out there
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: hyping up the crowd. I'm just a big fan in general.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But Brian, I know you heard a little bit about
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: how much Trent is a huge Yeah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I mean Trent and I talked about him in the
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: spring and he's just he was wanting to hold back
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: because he wasn't wanting to go too far. But he's like, look,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: this guy has everything it takes to play inside. Remember
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: and it's good that you said next year, he's making
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: that transition from tackle to guard. But he's got the power,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: he's got the personality, he's got the intellect and awareness.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: He understands acutely what he doesn't know and what it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: going to take. He was talking about being humped right
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: where that move where a defensive lineman gets a guy
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: going to there. You're giving me that funny look where
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: he goes to the right and he stopped. He goes,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I hope people understand what the hump move is. It's
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: where you get your momentum used against you in a
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: strong defensive lineman can throw you back the other direction.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: And he said that was his Welcome to the NFL moment.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Inside the speed of the hands of Devon Hamilton totally
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: through him at the beginning. He's an incredible personality, a
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: great kid, and every day he walks out on the field,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: he reminds himself that he's a kid from Baker County
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: that gets to play for his hometown team and it's
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: important to him. So I love the fact that he
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: has a nickname tug Boat, and I love the fact
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: that he understands what a rare opportunity.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: He has fully seizing that opportunity at least thus far.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: He's an awesome kid.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: And you're talking about guys. Now, you know if Hod
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: just starts next year, Bigsby Strange, Now you're talking about
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: the next generation guys who you could see moving in
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: sustain a team because Brian, you know, next season we're
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: way ahead of ourself, is going to look different in
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: terms of some decisions they have to make, and they
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: have started drafting and developing.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: So these three stories are big stories.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: People in Jacksonville will be surprised. Just to stawn that
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: theme real quick about how different things have to become
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: with a quarterback that you have to pay. We've never
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: had one here that we've had to pay like this
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: and be a money game. They will make some decisions
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: that will make people whoa that guy can still play, Yeah,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: but that's the guy we got to pay and protect.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So I know that will come paramount. But until then,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I am team tugboat.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: To that point, team tugboat.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: All right, practice underway, come back, we'll preview what we
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: got going on for the rest of the week. Stay
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  Speaker 1: for fans. Had a very special practice in the stadium
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, which was very hot for us. I was
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: sweating in there, so I know they were. But it
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was Military Appreciation Day, which is always special, especially in
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: this town, and all of the players had very specialized
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Camo jerseys I think made specifically for the day, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: they were able to swap them with veterans after the game,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and that was just such a special moment. They all
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: came out in matt at midfield and if you were there,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it was just it was something to be a part of.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I spoke to do it and he said he's always
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: excited when they have, you know, military members and veterans
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: with them on the field, and it was just a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: very special little moment that you know, takes you out
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: of oh it's hot, it's training camp, and kind of
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: reminds you what's important.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know who got in line right across from
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, but I saw some people kind of jockeying
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: for position acrossroom.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Players they want to be but I think just as
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: special day all around.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: That was great, and it's game week.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: We have Dallas Is coming up on Saturday. Anything you
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: guys are particularly looking forward to when it comes to that,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: or just seeing the young guys.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: Out there, I want to be excited, but I also
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: just experienced it in the third quarter of this game.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: I would be ready for it to be over with,
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: and I'm not.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: I'm not discinding of people get excited about preseason, but
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: it's it's tough. I am looking for the rookies because
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: I think they will be interesting this year for the future.
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: So I do think with Strange and Bigsby and some
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: guys like that, there are storylines to watch this week
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: beyond maybe the first TOO series, so that'll be interesting.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Timmy, getting ready for a preseason broadcast is a lot
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: more intensive than a regular season broadcast, a lot more people,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: because you're talking about I'm going to spend this entire
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: week looking at the twos and threes. I won't waste
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of time with the ones because they're not
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: going to play a lot this week, so we'll focus
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: on the twos and the threes and the storylines down
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: there and Jags Wired debuts this week Wednesday Night, the
• 27:22
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• 27:24
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• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Of course we'll have you covered for game day as well,
• 27:30
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• 27:33
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• 27:34
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• 27:38
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• 27:40
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