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Jeffrey Epstein’s Catwalk to Hell: How Jean-Luc Brunel Used MC2 to Feed the Monster (Part 4) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're picking up with the
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  Speaker 1: Maritza Vasquez deposition talking about MC Squared, Jean-Luc Brunel, and
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Once again Bradley Edwards is doing the questioning
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  Speaker 1: and Ms. Vasquez is doing the answering. Question, okay what
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  Speaker 1: was Jeffrey Epstein getting out of MC Squared? Answer, The
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  Speaker 1: only thing that I can think he was getting was
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  Speaker 1: the girls. Nothing else. Because he has all the money. Question.
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  Speaker 1: And the company wasn't making money anyway? Answer. No. Question.
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  Speaker 1: And you know the company wasn't making money? Vasquez. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't at all. At all. So the only thing that
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  Speaker 1: he was, I believe, that he wanted to get involved
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  Speaker 1: was because of the girls. That's it. Pero, he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do it legally, like girls coming here, even if
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  Speaker 1: they were underage or whatever, with visas. Question, because the
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  Speaker 1: modeling industry is one of those industries where there is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of girls underage coming into the country, right? Answer, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty easy access to underage girls. Answer, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and they come into the country and they don't have
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  Speaker 1: their parents? Answer by Vasquez, yes. Question, so they don't
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  Speaker 1: really have any parental supervision while they're here? Vasquez, not
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  Speaker 1: at all. Question, so the modeling industry is one that
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  Speaker 1: some guys use that to get underage girls and that's
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  Speaker 1: happened for a long time, right? Answer, yes. Question, so
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  Speaker 1: is what Jean-Luc Brunel still does? Answer, yes. Question, still
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  Speaker 1: uses it to get underage girls to sleep with, really, right? Vasquez, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein too? Vasquez, I cannot tell you that
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know. I know if there is, there
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  Speaker 1: is some kind of relationship. I believe they will or
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  Speaker 1: he will. You know, he still does it. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I cannot tell you that because I was never.
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  Speaker 1: I was never. What I can say, what I know,
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  Speaker 1: because I was with that person for the longest, was
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  Speaker 1: with Jean-Luc Brunel. The same thing that I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you that even if he has a daughter, whatever, I
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  Speaker 1: put my hands on fire that Jeff Fuller is gay. Question. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and Jean-Luc, you saw him use cocaine at work? Vasquez,
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  Speaker 1: not in the office, but sometimes he was coming to
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  Speaker 1: the office like with blood coming from the nose and
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  Speaker 1: white things here that he had to go, oh, you
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  Speaker 1: go and clean yourself or whatever, you know? Question, would
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  Speaker 1: he talk about his cocaine addiction? Vasquez, not directly, but
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  Speaker 1: he was a box properly. Everyone knew about that. And
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  Speaker 1: he was the one, the kind of person who didn't
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  Speaker 1: feel ashamed to tell. For example, Sergio was there. And
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  Speaker 1: I was here, and he was there, and he was,
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  Speaker 1: like Sergio, going get me the best one, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And Sergio was going and going to get it for him. Question,
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  Speaker 1: so he didn't really hide the fact that he used cocaine? Vasquez, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: But not in the office, not in front of the bookers. Question,
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  Speaker 1: where is the office in New York? Answer, 6 West Street.
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  Speaker 1: And do you know what Khalid is doing now? Vasquez, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: is he in Miami? Vasquez, yes, he's in Miami. Question,
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  Speaker 1: do you have his number? Vasquez, no, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: his number. Question, how about Mike Sanka? Vasquez, Mike Sanka,
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  Speaker 1: he's in California. Question, what did he do? Vasquez, he represents,
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  Speaker 1: he represents artists, players, he's like a manager. Question, did
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  Speaker 1: he have any role in procuring underage girls for anybody? Vasquez, never, no,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. Question, how about Arnaud Brunel? Answer, he
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  Speaker 1: is Jean-Luc's brother. Question, is he here in Miami? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: where is he? Vasquez, France. Question, has he ever been
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  Speaker 1: here in Miami? Answer, yes. Question, when's the last time
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  Speaker 1: you talked to him? Has it been a while? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: by Vasquez, 2006, no, 2003. Question, okay, is he close
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  Speaker 1: with Jean-Luc? Answer, no. Well, he's his brother, you know. Question, yeah. Vasquez,
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  Speaker 1: there is a blood relation there, but I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you it's like oil and water, two different persons, two
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  Speaker 1: different heads, two different mentalities. Question, who are the people? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: a gentleman and a beast. Mr. Arnaud Brunel is a gentleman,
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  Speaker 1: a very correct person, very transparent, and the other is
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  Speaker 1: the opposite. Question, do you know a guy named Etienne? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: Etienne Ray. He was another partner of Jean-Luc and Karen's,
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  Speaker 1: another gentleman, another real good person. Actually, Jean-Luc screwed him
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  Speaker 1: when he took him out of Karen's. He closed Karen's
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  Speaker 1: here in Miami without Mr. Etienne's knowledge. Question, and if
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  Speaker 1: we talked to Etienne, he would not have nice things
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  Speaker 1: to say about Jean-Luc? Vasquez, no, not at all. Question,
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  Speaker 1: what about... Answer, Ruth. Question, who is that? Answer, Ruth,
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  Speaker 1: the other lady in Paris. It's the same thing. She
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  Speaker 1: will tell you everything. Jean-Luc came from Paris. Question, how
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  Speaker 1: do you spell her name? Vasquez, I don't know her name.
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  Speaker 1: Her last name, I don't know. Her name is Ruth. R-U-T-H.
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  Speaker 1: Because if he stay in Paris, he had to pay taxes,
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  Speaker 1: and this and that, everything that he was avoiding. Question, who, Jean-Luc? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: by Vasquez, yeah, Jean-Luc. Question, Do you know how he
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  Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein became friends? Answer, no. Question, or why
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  Speaker 1: they became friends? Answer, by Vasquez, no. Question, I mean
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  Speaker 1: other than underage girls, what else do those two have
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  Speaker 1: in common? Answer, by Vasquez, that's the only thing I believe,
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  Speaker 1: and it's very, you know, like I saw Mr. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: once in a gym, in a church, very simple. And
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  Speaker 1: you see Jean-Luc in the same place, and you see
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  Speaker 1: Jean-Luc with a Prada pants, and with Gucci t-shirt, and
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  Speaker 1: with a Dolce & Gabbana sunglasses. It's like two different characters. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and how many girls at one time would MC Squared
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  Speaker 1: have under them? Answer, a lot, like over 200 or 300. Question,
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  Speaker 1: other than the one time where four girls were taken
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  Speaker 1: to Jeffrey's house, and all four of those girls were
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  Speaker 1: underage at the time, right? Vasquez, answer, yes. Question, they
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  Speaker 1: were 14 or 15 at the time? Vasquez, yeah, 15, 16, 14,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. Question, other than that time, what other occasion?
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  Speaker 1: Jog your memory, think this through. Have you known of
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein to be in the same vicinity as any
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  Speaker 1: of the models? Was there ever a time? Jean-Luc says, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey is coming up to New York this weekend. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to hang out at the apartment or Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: is this? Answer, no, never. Jean-Luc never mentioned his name
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  Speaker 1: until 2003, when actually Mr. Epstein got involved. To me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to me, prior to that, one more time,
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  Speaker 1: you can talk to Eve. She knew Jeffrey Epstein prior,
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  Speaker 1: prior to me. Question, before you did? Answer, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and she has seen him more often than you have? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: of course, because she was in New York all the time.
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  Speaker 1: She lives in New York, and I never lived there.
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  Speaker 1: I was like commuting once a week in New York,
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  Speaker 1: two weeks in Miami, one week in New York, two
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  Speaker 1: weeks in Miami. Question, are you leaving to go to
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  Speaker 1: Columbia soon? Vasquez to Peru. Question, to Peru? Vasquez, yeah. Question, when? Vasquez,
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  Speaker 1: the 24th. Question, and do you know when you're going
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  Speaker 1: to be back? Answer, the 28th. Question, all right, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I would hope to think that this whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: that your involvement is completely done. However, there is one
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  Speaker 1: case that Jeffrey Epstein has not settled right now that
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  Speaker 1: could go to trial. If it went to trial, then
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  Speaker 1: we could be called at trial, but it's highly unlikely
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  Speaker 1: that that's going to happen. I'm just letting you know
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  Speaker 1: that it's a possibility. Emmy Taylor. Do you know who
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  Speaker 1: that is? Answer. No. Question. Claire Hazel. Answer. No. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Joelle Pashkow. Answer. No. Question. Lynn Fontanella. Answer. No. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Biddle. Answer. No. Question. Cindy Lopez. Answer. Cindy Lopez.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I did mention her because I didn't remember
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  Speaker 1: her name. Now you say it. Cindy Lopez was a
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  Speaker 1: girl who was working for Karen's. She was not underage,
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  Speaker 1: but she was a young girl. She was working for Karen's.
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  Speaker 1: She was studying, and she was living at Jeffrey Epstein's apartment.
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  Speaker 1: She was living at his place. Question. And what was
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  Speaker 1: her involvement with Jean-Luc and or Jeffrey Epstein? Answer. She
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  Speaker 1: was working at Karen's. Question. Okay, as a model? Answer. No,
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  Speaker 1: she was an employee. Question. She traveled on his airplane
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  Speaker 1: with him a lot? Answer. Yeah, because she's a personal
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  Speaker 1: friend of Jeffrey. She was living in his place. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else about that? Answer, no. Question, about her? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: Inca Dury? Answer, no. Question, any other people that you
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  Speaker 1: know that were living in that apartment at any time? Vasquez, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: other than the people that you named already, which are
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  Speaker 1: now Cindy Lopez, Juliana Barboza, and Alina Weaver? Answer, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think Alina lived there. Alina was living in one
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  Speaker 1: of the model's apartments that we rent. Because besides those
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  Speaker 1: two apartments, we rent apartments in New York for the girls. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Who decides whether the girls live? He's interrupted by Vasquez. Jean-Luc. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Jean-Luc decides whether the girls live at 301 that's owned
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  Speaker 1: by Jeffrey Epstein or the other apartments that are rented
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  Speaker 1: by MC Squire. answer yeah question and how does he
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  Speaker 1: make that determination answer he's the owner question oh but
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  Speaker 1: I mean what are the qualifications I mean if he
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  Speaker 1: likes the girl or they're underage or answer no if
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  Speaker 1: they were like good girls girls that they could make
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  Speaker 1: money they were living In an expensive place. If they, like,
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  Speaker 1: were regular girls, they were living in shitty places. Question. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but which one is Jeffrey Epstein's place? Answer. An expensive place. Question. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so the better models were living there? Answer. Yes. Question. Redacted,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: do you know who that is? Answer. No. Question. Did
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  Speaker 1: you ever meet with Naomi Campbell? Answer. No. Question. Did
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  Speaker 1: you know that she was friends with Jeffrey Epstein? Answer. No. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever meet Leslie Wexner? Answer, that's the woman
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  Speaker 1: that's involved with Mr. Epstein, no? Question, no, Leslie Wexner
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  Speaker 1: is the owner of Victoria's Secret. Answer, no. Question, did
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  Speaker 1: you ever hear anything about Jeffrey Epstein's relationship, who he
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  Speaker 1: was with, male, female, or a person's name? Answer, I
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  Speaker 1: knew because Eve told me that he had a relationship
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  Speaker 1: with a woman, that her father was very wealthy, and
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  Speaker 1: that's how he started his own money. And if you
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  Speaker 1: tell me the name, maybe I can remember, but I don't.
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  Speaker 1: He trails off. Question, Ghislaine Maxwell? Answer, yes. Question, and
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  Speaker 1: her father was Robert Maxwell? Answer, yes. Question, other than
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  Speaker 1: that relationship, are you aware of any other relationships of
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, no. Question, how many times are you
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  Speaker 1: aware of Jean-Luc bringing underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home
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  Speaker 1: in Palm Beach? Answer, well I was there, when I
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  Speaker 1: was working, with them, maybe, maybe two, three times a year,
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  Speaker 1: the last year, you know, 2003, 2004, 2005. Question, and
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  Speaker 1: how would you know? Answer, not prior to that. Question,
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  Speaker 1: how would you know that Jean-Luc was taking underage girls
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  Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer, because he was saying in
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  Speaker 1: the office, there is a party at Jeffrey's house, I'm
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  Speaker 1: taking the girls, and the girls, and they were in town,
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  Speaker 1: they were underage girls. Question, we're still talking about 14, 15? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: by Vasquez, 16, yeah. Question, 16 at the oldest? Answer, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And they were going, the other girls too, but he,
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  Speaker 1: he personally, was taking the little ones. Because the other ones,
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  Speaker 1: they could go in their own cars or whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with their boyfriends. Question, did you ever say anything to
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  Speaker 1: them about taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as a mother, I always told them that
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  Speaker 1: they were underage girls. And he was saying, oh, that
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  Speaker 1: I'm their father. Question, but you knew what was going on? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: not really, not really, not really. Not that, because I
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  Speaker 1: would never think that they were going to a party
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't know Mr. Epstein in that scenario, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I know Jean-Luc was crazy or is crazy, but not
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  Speaker 1: stupid to be with those particular girls because these girls
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  Speaker 1: were coming from a very good friend of him in Brazil. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and who is that? Answer, and he didn't, I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember her name. the mother agent of these four girls.
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  Speaker 1: I gave it to you before. I don't remember her name.
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  Speaker 1: It's a black woman. Question, it's not Kashi? Answer, no.
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  Speaker 1: What's her name? Question, because I have that part of
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  Speaker 1: the report right here stating that Brunel had a connection
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  Speaker 1: with a young Brazilian woman, but I don't have the
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  Speaker 1: name of that person. Answer, no. He was having a
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  Speaker 1: connection with a woman in Brazil that she was giving
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  Speaker 1: him prostitutes when he needed it. Question, that woman in
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  Speaker 1: Brazil was giving Jean-Luc prostitutes? Answer, real prostitutes when he
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  Speaker 1: needed it? Question, how old were these prostitutes? Answer, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know because I was never in
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  Speaker 1: Brazil with him or nothing like that. Answer, in Brazil? Question,
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  Speaker 1: in Brazil. That was in Brazil. Question, was Jeffrey involved
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  Speaker 1: in these? Answer, Jeffrey Epstein was going to Brazil because
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  Speaker 1: he was one or two clients. That was from there.
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  Speaker 1: So they were going, they were meeting. There and everything
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  Speaker 1: like that. Question. So you know of at least occasions
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  Speaker 1: where Jeffrey Epstein and Jean-Luc were in Brazil? Answer. Yes. Question.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a particular person that would provide prostitutes
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  Speaker 1: for them? Answer. Yeah. Because one time I know because
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  Speaker 1: Jean-Luc say it to me openly. Question. What did he say? Answer.
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  Speaker 1: That that woman was giving him not models, they were prostitutes. Question. Question.
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  Speaker 1: In my notes, it says underage prostitutes. Is that something that? Answer, yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: They were underage girls, like 16, 17, 18. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here. And in the
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  Speaker 1: next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off.
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