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Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, February 10 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, Attendant, this is happy hour and now
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Speaker 1: the uncorruptible manager of the new Brooks Osier a E
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Speaker 1: W tamp team duo, J E. P. Jafrick, welcome in.
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Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour. What a duo that would
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Speaker 1: be on All Elite Wrestling. I'm J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1: NFL media analyst with us John Oser, Jaguars dot Com
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Speaker 1: Senior writer. We're calling this happy hour. This is the
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Speaker 1: final week it will be called happy hour on a Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: But hey, we've got the Twitter Pole results and plenty
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Speaker 1: of suggestions to get to a little bit later. Coaching
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Speaker 1: staff announcements are still pending. We have no official word yet.
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Speaker 1: We'll touch on a couple of those guys. Five weeks
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Speaker 1: from today is the opening of free agency in the
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Speaker 1: new league year. Will touch on a few names each
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Speaker 1: week that could become free agents and will or will
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Speaker 1: they not fit with the Jacksonville Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: is throwing Friday Alert Media Alert at one. Bucky Brooks
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Speaker 1: will have the call of that event coming up this week.
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Speaker 1: Plenty to get to and remember to subscribe to the
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Speaker 1: official Jaguars podcast network on Apple, iTunes or wherever you
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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Give us five stars, give us all
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Speaker 1: the comments you want. Bucky, how you doing today, Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm good. I am good. One step closer to uh
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Speaker 1: the new season. The old season has done, super Bowl
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Speaker 1: is behind us, and now we're off to John, it
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Speaker 1: never ends eleven months of the stuff. Well, it particularly
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Speaker 1: doesn't end. When you have a coaching change with the
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Speaker 1: team you cover, then it really doesn't end. And uh
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Speaker 1: usually if if you're covering a team that doesn't have transition,
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Speaker 1: then you get a couple of weeks where you can
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Speaker 1: sort of plan get over to the Senior Bowl. When
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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, then it really doesn't end. And Uh,
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Speaker 1: I anticipate a continued busy off season. Yeah, and the
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Speaker 1: week ahead could be busy as well. The Jaguars coaching
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Speaker 1: staff has not been officially announced, super teasing it for
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks on these shows, but nothing official
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Speaker 1: from the Jaguars yet. That just means, guys that there's
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Speaker 1: there's got to be just a couple of loose ends
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Speaker 1: official signings of contracts. Probably is it's what's left in
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Speaker 1: the hopper here, John, Yeah, let's clarify I mean, I've
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Speaker 1: gotten questions in the ozone and mail bag. Hey, what's
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Speaker 1: taking them so long? Even got one in the last
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Speaker 1: couple of days. Is there a problem? Look, these are announcements.
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Speaker 1: They're working their self scouting, they're thinking about the offseason,
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Speaker 1: and they're planning. When you have I think it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be upwards of twenty maybe more in terms of when
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Speaker 1: you talk about assistance quality control, Guys, when you've got
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Speaker 1: that many people and moving parts, if you want to
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Speaker 1: announce it all at the same time, it's not gonna
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Speaker 1: happen in fourteen days. Yeah, a lot of moving parts
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Speaker 1: that you're trying to navigate and put everything together. And
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Speaker 1: because we don't really know the size of the staff,
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Speaker 1: how many assistance to the assistance do we do? We
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Speaker 1: know whe're coming on. You know, teams are really constructing
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Speaker 1: their coaching staffs differently in this day and time. And
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Speaker 1: I think what Urban had talked about, you want to
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Speaker 1: get an elite coaching staff, and so I think you
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Speaker 1: have to trust him when he comes to the process
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Speaker 1: of how he's trying to put it all together. Some
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Speaker 1: of the names that we've heard a solid you think
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a very very good coaching staff,
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Speaker 1: but he just wants to put some more sprinkles on
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Speaker 1: the cupcake. The amount of sprinkles is my next questions,
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Speaker 1: sprinkles on the cupcake. What is the largest coaching staff
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Speaker 1: of the NFL? And I think the Patriots are normally
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Speaker 1: the smallest coaching staff. Do I have that right? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: The Patries do operate on a very very thin budget.
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Speaker 1: They don't They don't employ a lot of people, and
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Speaker 1: they believe, like you cut out, you stream a lot
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Speaker 1: of some of the voices. It's one voice is easy
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Speaker 1: to get everyone unified. Whereas when you have a big
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Speaker 1: coaching staff sometimes people can kind of take um some
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Speaker 1: freedoms and liberties with some of the coaching, and sometimes
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Speaker 1: you don't get executed what you want to get done.
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Speaker 1: We see the work both ways. It looked like the
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Speaker 1: Tampa Buccaneers had a million coaches on their sideline. I
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Speaker 1: think that's kind of the norm. So we just see,
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Speaker 1: as long as you get good coaches and good good players,
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Speaker 1: you have a chance to win. That's what I want
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Speaker 1: to see. I think everybody wants to see that. Moving
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Speaker 1: ahead here, by the way, coming up a little bit later,
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Speaker 1: we'll get into Trevor Lawrence throwing. This week, Bucky Brooks
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Speaker 1: will have the call of that on NFL Network in
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Speaker 1: what capacity will find out just a little bit later
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Speaker 1: on this Jaguars Happy Hour for Now podcast will also
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Speaker 1: pick the podcast name from all the submissions that were
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Speaker 1: putting on Twitter this week. But five weeks that's your okay,
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Speaker 1: Sprinkles of the cup Gake. There's a late addition to
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Speaker 1: the suggestions. We'll see if that makes the cut. A
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Speaker 1: five weeks from today free agency begin. So whatever this
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Speaker 1: coaching said, as it doubts, Sprinkles of the Cupcake, we'll
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Speaker 1: have to figure out what they want to do in
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Speaker 1: free agency with all the dollars they have available. So
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Speaker 1: we'll start this week. We'll go through a few names
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Speaker 1: that are pending free agents around the NFL and get
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Speaker 1: some thoughts so maybe how they fit or might not
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Speaker 1: fit with the Jacksonville Jaguars. This sounds like a fun idea.
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Speaker 1: It's fun. We're full of ideas here. So let's start
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Speaker 1: with some big names. Let's start big Bucky. Let's start
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Speaker 1: with Leonard Williams, defensive lineman. He's from right down the
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Speaker 1: road in Daytona. How much is he gonna cost doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: Is he that good? Can he fit right away here?
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Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna cast some pretty penny because he
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Speaker 1: had the best year of his career, Like he decided
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Speaker 1: in a contract year and he Frances, you did, and
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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna turn it up a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it happen. Um. He's big, he's athletic,
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Speaker 1: he still has plenty of upside. The fact that he's
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Speaker 1: from down there way he certainly would make him a
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Speaker 1: nice sale in this defense you need help on the interior.
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Speaker 1: He's a guy that has been able to really do
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Speaker 1: a couple of different things for the Giants in recent years. Inside, outside,
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Speaker 1: rushed the passer, be solid against the run. He is
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Speaker 1: going to cost a pretty penny. We've seen the prices
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Speaker 1: of those defensive tackles. Chris Jones is in that twenty
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Speaker 1: MILLI range. I don't think Leonard Williams is there, but
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Speaker 1: I think he is certainly in the high teams. Honestly, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this in the past. With
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Speaker 1: a what is said to be a weak defensive tackle draft,
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Speaker 1: I maintain you can always find guys somewhere. I think
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Speaker 1: you agree with that, But at the top, if you're
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Speaker 1: looking for quick impact, probably not there. I assume that's
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Speaker 1: going to raise the price even more for defensive tackles
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Speaker 1: in free agency. What I'm wondering about though, from you,
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Speaker 1: does it matter with Leonard Williams what scheme you're going
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Speaker 1: to or can he go either way? Is he that
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Speaker 1: kind of a talent where he can play in whatever? Well?
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Speaker 1: I think the last couple of years with the Giants,
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Speaker 1: we've seen him playing a couple of different things. They
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Speaker 1: put him in a three or four defense last year
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Speaker 1: and he kind of played a defensive end in that scheme,
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Speaker 1: meaning he's really more as a tackle um. But when
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Speaker 1: you talk about a guy who had eleven and a
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Speaker 1: half sacks, fourteen tackles for loss, he had the quarterback
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Speaker 1: thirty times, I think for the Jaguars he has to
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Speaker 1: be a top priority. I think he can play. I
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Speaker 1: think when you look at what Culin will likely do
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Speaker 1: based on his background, uh coming from the Baltimore Ravens,
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Speaker 1: he would be a great fit. He could be a
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Speaker 1: dominant player he I mean in a way I could
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Speaker 1: see him filling the role that Calais Campbell did a
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Speaker 1: few years ago where he was kind of that big tackle.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you list him as a defensive end, but he's
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Speaker 1: really playing kind of over top of the tackle and
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Speaker 1: making things happen against the run and also impacting the
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Speaker 1: quarterback on passing downs. I think little Williams can do that.
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Speaker 1: But given the last two years and the amount of
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Speaker 1: numbers that he's put up, he is going to I
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Speaker 1: mean that's gonna be a high. I mean, that's a
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Speaker 1: Cadillac acquisition that you're talking about, Like you have to
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Speaker 1: spend big money to bring him in the escalade of
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Speaker 1: sorts to to cover a lot of money going out.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's send go to another thing. And a
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Speaker 1: lot of folks are throwing around on Twitter and and
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Twitter. I don't know, Bucky, if you follow that
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Speaker 1: too much. It is quite a it's a deep well
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Speaker 1: to go down a lot of times. But Alan Robinson's
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Speaker 1: name was with the Bears. Do they dare? I mean
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Speaker 1: they should. He's one of the best one out there.
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Speaker 1: He's a proven number one receiver. He's big, he can
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Speaker 1: get it, he can take it off the rim. He's
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Speaker 1: been fantastic. He didn't get a lot of love in
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Speaker 1: Chicago obviously because their quarterback situation was in flux was
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Speaker 1: a mess really with Mr Drobiski. But he is one
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Speaker 1: of the best out there. And so if you're thinking
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Speaker 1: about bringing someone in and maybe gonna reset the wide
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Speaker 1: receiver rotation with Alan Robinson being the one and d J.
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Speaker 1: Tark being the two and La Viscus channel somehow playing
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Speaker 1: the roll of three, you can do it. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if it's a top priority, but if he's having
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Speaker 1: an affinity and for whatever reason he wants to have
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Speaker 1: a homecoming, I think you certainly have to entertain the possibility.
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Speaker 1: I would love to see that because I like a
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Speaker 1: rob you know. I feel like he liked Jacksonville, and
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Speaker 1: I would have stayed had it not got weird. It
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Speaker 1: was weird at the end, remember JP, because he had
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Speaker 1: heard his A c L. He had an A c
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Speaker 1: L Tare and then and Tom came in. He was
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Speaker 1: out for two thousand seventeen. So I think they would
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Speaker 1: have resigned him had it not been for the injury.
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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that just sort of got
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Speaker 1: things sideways. But that's not a topic. What I wonder though, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: with the way the league's going. I'm just playing Devil's
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Speaker 1: advocate here because I think they ought to do it.
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Speaker 1: But the way the league's going though, the Jaguars receivers
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Speaker 1: are fast, but you could argue that they don't have
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Speaker 1: an absolute Blazer Kansas City type guy. I know you
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Speaker 1: like that adding a rob in there. Do they still
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Speaker 1: lack that? Are they fast enough? You know? I guess
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Speaker 1: from your perspective, you see more of the league than
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Speaker 1: I do, so I'm curious about that angle of that
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Speaker 1: from you. Well, I think you have the thing about
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Speaker 1: your wide receiver corps. Like you with the basketball team,
9:45
Speaker 1: you kind of want guys to have different skills, So
9:47
Speaker 1: you want to have some of those quick guard types.
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Speaker 1: You want to have a post up guy, bigger player
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Speaker 1: that can win the balls, someone else who can kind
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Speaker 1: of stretch the field in a different way. I think
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Speaker 1: for a rob I think he's the number one. I
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Speaker 1: think he's kind of the of the passing game. And
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Speaker 1: despite the success that DJ Chark has had, I would
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Speaker 1: say that Alan Robinson is a true number one, where
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Speaker 1: Dhark is probably more of a manufacturer Number one. He's
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Speaker 1: a byproduct of they don't have anyone else who can
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Speaker 1: be the lead receiver, so he is the lead receiver.
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Speaker 1: I think if you bring someone in who is established,
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Speaker 1: like Robinson, it probably allows d J. Chark to be
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Speaker 1: more comfortable on the back side of the formation and
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Speaker 1: he may get a quiet one thousand yards, but he's
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Speaker 1: making the plays that he's made throughout his career. And
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Speaker 1: I think what we want to do is we want
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Speaker 1: to think about the quarterback is going to be young.
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Speaker 1: So typically if you want a young quarterback to flourish,
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Speaker 1: you need to put him with veteran receivers that are dependable,
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Speaker 1: so he knows, Okay, my guys going to be exactly
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Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be so I can let it
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Speaker 1: go and that would help a young quarterback thrive. That
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Speaker 1: is why you saw Josh Allen make that jump. When
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Speaker 1: you surproumed those guys with veteran receivers, they tend to
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Speaker 1: play better because there's more consistency in their whereabouts when
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Speaker 1: it comes to being able to throw the rock. When
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Speaker 1: fans first started floating this in early January, I sort
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Speaker 1: of poop pooed it because it's just hard to imagine
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Speaker 1: a guy coming back. You know that usually doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying it never happens. But you know, it's hard
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Speaker 1: to imagine because guys lead teams and there's already two
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Speaker 1: teams out there. But the more you look at this one,
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Speaker 1: the more it might make some sense. We haven't gotten
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Speaker 1: any feel the decision makers about how they feel about things,
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Speaker 1: and usually don't with free agency. But there's no clue here.
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Speaker 1: It's just it feels like a rob coming back would
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Speaker 1: not be as like I can't imagine unique for example,
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Speaker 1: you know, you get ahead of ourselves, you know, I
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Speaker 1: think that's a little different. So fresh here's what I
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Speaker 1: would say, John, that really could bring it home. Allen
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Speaker 1: Robinson played at Penn State. I think he played there
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Speaker 1: right around the time Urban was at Ohio State. Familiarity
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Speaker 1: is going to be everything when you think about a
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Speaker 1: coach coming in. He may not know the league, but
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Speaker 1: he may remember flashes and glimpses of when he faced
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Speaker 1: a guy in college or whatever. I would have to
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Speaker 1: check the timeline, but I think there is some crossover
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Speaker 1: there um and games too. Yeah, yeah, that that might
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Speaker 1: be a situation where it could work, not only because
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Speaker 1: of the previous connection in Jacksonville, but because Urban is
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Speaker 1: also familiar with that, you have to think he's going
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Speaker 1: to trust his own instincts, and so that may lead
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Speaker 1: him to kind of favor some of those big ten
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Speaker 1: guys that he's seen because he knows him at least
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Speaker 1: at some level. Let's get one more end today, let's
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Speaker 1: ony on. You know, it's a it's a position that
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Speaker 1: a lot of folks are focused on this offseason. What
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Speaker 1: will they do with Cam Robinson if they decided to
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Speaker 1: cut bait? Do they go to free agency? And what
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Speaker 1: about Trent Williams left tackle? Forty Niners? Big name, big dollars.
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Speaker 1: What do you say, Bucky Man? That's big name that
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Speaker 1: is But it's a it's a guy you could keep
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Speaker 1: around for a few years, veteran presence, no looking. He
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Speaker 1: had to shake off the rust after kind of sitting
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Speaker 1: out for a while, came back played pretty well. What
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Speaker 1: you would wonder how comfortable would Balky be with Trent Williams?
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Speaker 1: Does he have some intel, does he know him? Does
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Speaker 1: he feel good about what he would bring? Also, when
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Speaker 1: it comes to urban is really important that first year
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Speaker 1: you're really trying to get the right kind of guys
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Speaker 1: in the locker room. Would he be discouraged by the
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Speaker 1: way that Trent Williams asked for his exit out of
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Speaker 1: Washington when he left there. Like all of those things
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Speaker 1: factory in. On the field, he's everything that you want
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Speaker 1: because he is an elite left tackle with the size
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Speaker 1: and the physicality and the toughness and all those things
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Speaker 1: that you like. But you have to address some of
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Speaker 1: those issues away from the building to make sure that
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the right kind of guy that you
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Speaker 1: bring in. You're more of an an NFL insider. You
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Speaker 1: hear more than we do the Ravens situation, Orlando Jones,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, Brown, I was getting
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Speaker 1: mixed up from my Broncos way back. What's your assessment
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Speaker 1: of that? And how good is he left tackle? Just
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Speaker 1: sort of go over that situation a little bit as
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Speaker 1: it pertains to maybe the Jaguars. So what's interesting is
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Speaker 1: I believe he's really more of a natural right tackle,
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Speaker 1: even though he played left tackle in college and then
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Speaker 1: he kicked over there this year when Ronnie Stanley got
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Speaker 1: hurt and he earned honors and accolades. So he is
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Speaker 1: pushing to stay at left tackle because he also knows
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Speaker 1: that's the marquee position that's the position that gets paid
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Speaker 1: of the tackles. I would say that you have to
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Speaker 1: be careful with him because if you overvalue him and
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Speaker 1: you pay him what the going rate is for left tackles,
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Speaker 1: you may be disappointed in terms of his production and
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Speaker 1: his performance playing those elite guys, because when you watch Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: Baltimore is successful not because of what they do in
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Speaker 1: the passing game, but because of how they run it
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Speaker 1: and how they mal people. I don't know if he's
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Speaker 1: one of those guys, if you're thinking about throwing thirty
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Speaker 1: five to forty times, if he can hold up on
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Speaker 1: that island by himself, really good player, But I don't
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Speaker 1: know if I want to pay premium prices for him
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Speaker 1: in terms of draft capital and also in the contract.
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Speaker 1: You haven't Our weekly look will be our weekly look
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15:42
Speaker 1: have comments about that guy. Coming up a little later,
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Speaker 1: we'll get into what's his name? Trevor Lawrence is his name?
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Speaker 1: The quarterback for Clemson. He's throwing on Friday, and then
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Speaker 1: he's gonna go under the knife. We'll get some inside
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Speaker 1: thoughts on that a little later. But first, Hey, you
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Speaker 1: know we did the Twitter poll last week. Considering this
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Speaker 1: show goes up at eight am, Happy hours, a little early.
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Speaker 1: That makes for a long day. So well it's not
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Speaker 1: the first time the last time that's happened, So we
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Speaker 1: did a Twitter poll. Hey, what should the name be?
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Speaker 1: The results about two votes or so. The leading vote
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Speaker 1: getter was huddle up. That was your suggestion. Bucky right
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Speaker 1: behind the chains was second. That's not where we want
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Speaker 1: to be, but that was percent that was mine. Uh,
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Speaker 1: sixteen percent was other and left to comment and then
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Speaker 1: break the sticks. John's idea was last. So but sprinkle
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Speaker 1: on the cupcake was not one of the four. No,
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Speaker 1: but we had so many submissions otherwise on the other part,
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Speaker 1: and we'll just go through a few, you know, some
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Speaker 1: of the highlights here behind the teal Jaguars Today has
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Speaker 1: Brooks Show. How about that no Wednesday wake up show.
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Speaker 1: But he submitted something else because clearly he submitted that
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Speaker 1: one that was his, that was Bucky, that was his
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Speaker 1: burner account, duve all time. Let's see Brains of the Game,
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Speaker 1: Cold Shower with bo Brooks slash Ocean. I think we'll
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Speaker 1: pass on that one. High i Q podcast cut to
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Speaker 1: the chase, Cracked the Code, Jaguar's brunch. So we need
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Speaker 1: to make a decision here quickly, fellas. I like, I
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Speaker 1: like the people to have a voice in me. Huddle up.
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Speaker 1: This it's signed, sealed and delivered. This is Jaguars Huddle
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Speaker 1: Up from now on Wednesdays, we let the people decide.
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Speaker 1: Well done. All right, let's finish up today with really
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Speaker 1: the big event of the off season so far for
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, and it might be up until the draft.
18:11
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is throwing Friday at Clemson and then he's
18:15
Speaker 1: gonna go on to the knife, which scared the heck
18:18
Speaker 1: out of everybody that read that article when it came
18:20
Speaker 1: out the other day. Guys, but it's just non throwing shoulder.
18:23
Speaker 1: It's a labor. Apparently he'll be ready and back and
18:26
Speaker 1: all this. That's that everybody's saying it right now. But
18:29
Speaker 1: it's surgery. Is still surgery, John, Let's start with you here. Though.
18:33
Speaker 1: It's the only chance people will get to see him
18:36
Speaker 1: throw in an environment with NFL personnel around this entire offseason,
18:41
Speaker 1: so it's a big day coming up. Yeah. First of all,
18:43
Speaker 1: in terms of labor, I never referred to anything as
18:45
Speaker 1: minor surgery because it's only minor if it's not on you,
18:49
Speaker 1: you know so, But in this case, you know, Bucky
18:53
Speaker 1: can probably speak to this more within the league. I
18:55
Speaker 1: can't imagine anybody's really worried about this, So, uh, it's
19:00
Speaker 1: sort of a non issue as much as the surgery
19:02
Speaker 1: can be. I'm curious to hear from Bucky because I've
19:05
Speaker 1: been to a million and we're not a million, but
19:06
Speaker 1: a lot of these pro days in a lot of cases,
19:10
Speaker 1: like in two thousand and fourteen, when the Jaguars were
19:12
Speaker 1: gonna select Blake went to Bridgewaters, went to Blake's, went
19:17
Speaker 1: to Manzell's. Yeah, I could see how you're getting something
19:20
Speaker 1: out of that, because you're wanting to get eyes on guys,
19:23
Speaker 1: especially with Blake. There were questions over his throwing motion,
19:25
Speaker 1: which never really got resolved, and it was a thing.
19:28
Speaker 1: But he looked good at the pro day, so I
19:30
Speaker 1: could see how there's some interpretation going on. I got
19:34
Speaker 1: an email from somebody Buck this week and I kind
19:36
Speaker 1: of laughed at first, and then I sort of said, well,
19:38
Speaker 1: I wonder why, what's the point. I mean, you know,
19:45
Speaker 1: you haven't seen this, and when you watch him on film,
19:49
Speaker 1: I think his motion is pretty air tight, meaning I'm
19:54
Speaker 1: not sure you're looking at mechanics with this kid. I
19:56
Speaker 1: think his it's not like it's funky with man'zelle and
19:59
Speaker 1: all those guys. There were questions, but this guy is
20:02
Speaker 1: fundamentally pure right. I mean, there's really nothing your question
20:05
Speaker 1: physically about this guy. The only thing I can think
20:08
Speaker 1: of answer that question is he's doing it because if
20:11
Speaker 1: he didn't do it, it would look bad. Yeah, I
20:14
Speaker 1: think I think there's it. I'll be honest. I would
20:16
Speaker 1: have advised him to put himself in bubble wrap and
20:19
Speaker 1: go hide until draft date, because I don't think there's
20:22
Speaker 1: any issue. Anybody who has seen him on tape, I
20:24
Speaker 1: think they understand exactly what they're getting. The the guy
20:26
Speaker 1: who is is bright, who's athletic, who has great arm
20:30
Speaker 1: talent um, he is mature enough to handle responsibility that
20:33
Speaker 1: come along with being the face of the franchise. So
20:35
Speaker 1: I think this is just a mirror formality. You want
20:37
Speaker 1: to see him spend it. You want to get a
20:39
Speaker 1: field for the arm strength and all of those things,
20:42
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter if he's short hopping balls and
20:44
Speaker 1: all that other stuff. I don't think. I don't think
20:46
Speaker 1: it really impacts anything, you know, but it's one of
20:50
Speaker 1: those things, like you know, John, like you've been around
20:52
Speaker 1: this JP, you've been around it for a long time.
20:54
Speaker 1: We do what we do because we've always done it,
20:56
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what we do. Hey, you're supposed to
20:58
Speaker 1: have a pro day before you get drafted, so let's
21:01
Speaker 1: have a pro day. And the reason it's a little
21:03
Speaker 1: different this year because you don't have the ability to
21:05
Speaker 1: have private workouts, so your coaches won't be able to
21:08
Speaker 1: get their hands on our prospect and maybe put them
21:11
Speaker 1: through some things to see. But the beauty of being
21:14
Speaker 1: the first pick, you are picking the bell of the ball,
21:18
Speaker 1: so you kind of know exactly where you're going. Uh.
21:21
Speaker 1: You just hope that he gets through the workout unscathed,
21:24
Speaker 1: he has a successful surgery, and then he is just
21:26
Speaker 1: able to show up on draft now to hear his
21:27
Speaker 1: name called. So the Jaguars, I'm going to guess, will
21:31
Speaker 1: have representation there obviously maybe the Jets. Why not just
21:36
Speaker 1: in case all hell breaks loose? Who else needs to
21:39
Speaker 1: go to this thing on Friday? Well, you never know,
21:41
Speaker 1: because what what guys will convince themselves to say, you
21:44
Speaker 1: never You never know. There may be a trade the
21:46
Speaker 1: Jaguars may decide anywhere, So let'sen the offers. Maybe we
21:49
Speaker 1: can get a big haul after everyone heard about the
21:52
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford Jered golf trade, so maybe you can get
21:55
Speaker 1: some someones. But I don't know who all is going
21:58
Speaker 1: to be there. And also with with the pro days
22:00
Speaker 1: and the way things are going, they're limiting the amount
22:02
Speaker 1: of personnel that's available to go that can come in.
22:05
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you'll see the full conglomerates
22:08
Speaker 1: that we've seen in terms of the number of people,
22:10
Speaker 1: the legions of people there. But did Jack should be there?
22:13
Speaker 1: I would expect the head coach. I wouldpect ball Ky
22:17
Speaker 1: to be there, and then I don't know, maybe an
22:19
Speaker 1: offensive coach Daryl Belvil will be there. But I can't
22:22
Speaker 1: imagine too many people being there to see him because
22:25
Speaker 1: you kind of know what he is and the rest
22:27
Speaker 1: of everybody else and link and just watch you on
22:29
Speaker 1: NFL network. You guys are gonna carry it, right. Yeah,
22:31
Speaker 1: we're gonna show some of it as part of Paths
22:33
Speaker 1: the Draft cover. So we'll we'll talk about it. We'll
22:35
Speaker 1: we'll break it down. I'll break down all sixty of
22:37
Speaker 1: his throws and talk about how important it is that
22:40
Speaker 1: he's able to throw on air, even though he'll never
22:42
Speaker 1: play a game on air, but hey, it's it's important.
22:45
Speaker 1: That's what we need to see. That's what we always do, right,
22:48
Speaker 1: That's when we need to see make sure that the
22:49
Speaker 1: ball doesn't hit the ground, because that's what we don't
22:52
Speaker 1: want to see. And I think my buddy Jordan Palmer
22:54
Speaker 1: is training Trevor right now, so you'll see him hike
22:57
Speaker 1: the ball and backpedal and pretend to move. All that
23:00
Speaker 1: other stuff. Is they're gonna chase him, chase him with
23:02
Speaker 1: a broom like they did with I, do some stuff
23:05
Speaker 1: and and spin and and all kinds of stuff, and
23:07
Speaker 1: have him do some jumping jacks before he throws, or
23:10
Speaker 1: whatever they do. I just need to get through the
23:12
Speaker 1: sixty passes healthy and then I don't need to see
23:14
Speaker 1: him anywhere. I just need to see him just tucked
23:16
Speaker 1: away somewhere safely and bubble wrap so we can break
23:19
Speaker 1: him out on draft night. I'm looking forward to seeing
23:23
Speaker 1: this on Friday, John, I'll be honest with you, Yeah,
23:28
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. But the reason you go,
23:30
Speaker 1: and I think we all know it too. No team
23:33
Speaker 1: wants to have not done due diligence in case something
23:38
Speaker 1: weird happens, you know. I mean that's why teams even
23:43
Speaker 1: at combine. It had there been a combine and in
23:46
Speaker 1: a Senior Bowl season, whatever, every team would have interviewed
23:50
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in some capacity. I'm sure or had somebody
23:53
Speaker 1: talked to him at least, because you don't want to
23:54
Speaker 1: be sitting there on draft day and something weird happens
23:56
Speaker 1: and he dropped to seven, which he would never do.
23:59
Speaker 1: I get that, but if if he does, you don't
24:02
Speaker 1: want to sit there and tell your fans, well, we
24:04
Speaker 1: haven't done any homework. So yeah, you things want to
24:07
Speaker 1: have a page on the guy. And I think you
24:09
Speaker 1: speak to this too. Teams also like being able to
24:13
Speaker 1: interview the guy, so if in five years, all of
24:16
Speaker 1: a sudden he's a free agent, which again we hope
24:18
Speaker 1: it wouldn't happen. You like having done homework. It's all
24:22
Speaker 1: about research. It's all about that information. Bucky has been
24:25
Speaker 1: there more than I have, obviously, but I'm sure that's
24:28
Speaker 1: a part of it too. You want to have as
24:29
Speaker 1: much dat on every player as you can. You do,
24:32
Speaker 1: and you don't want to assume anything. I mean like
24:34
Speaker 1: not saying that trouble will be associating this, but we
24:36
Speaker 1: saw Laramie Telso have an unexpected slide on draft day
24:39
Speaker 1: with some last minute information came up, and so you
24:41
Speaker 1: want to get all of that stuff down so in
24:43
Speaker 1: case something comes up, you have it. You can make
24:46
Speaker 1: a decision on whether you can make a move or
24:48
Speaker 1: not because you just don't know. We're still in the
24:50
Speaker 1: process where you don't know about the background, the medical anything,
24:53
Speaker 1: anything could pop up. So you just want to dotch
24:56
Speaker 1: your eyes and cross your tease. Yeah, you don't want
24:58
Speaker 1: to be sitting there in the draft room, buck and
25:00
Speaker 1: have your owners say what about Trevor and be like,
25:02
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really look at I mean, yeah, yeah, but
25:11
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned Jordan Palmer, former Jaguar by the way,
25:15
Speaker 1: and he's really crafted himself a career Bucky as a quarterback,
25:19
Speaker 1: throwing mechanics type guy out with exos. I think it's
25:22
Speaker 1: where he is. He has his own thing out here
25:24
Speaker 1: in Dana Point, which is just a little south of
25:26
Speaker 1: l a very nice, very nice here. He's he's an entrepreneur.
25:29
Speaker 1: He's done a bunch of different things. He is the quarterback,
25:33
Speaker 1: Yes he is, Yes, he is. He is. He is
25:36
Speaker 1: a terrific salesperson in businessman and he can sell the
25:40
Speaker 1: best of all of them. And he's gonna seal some
25:42
Speaker 1: of his quarterbacks. He doesn't have to sail Trevor Lawrence
25:44
Speaker 1: too hard, but he has done the sales job with
25:46
Speaker 1: a bunch of these other quarterbacks that he's training. I
25:48
Speaker 1: will say he is really good at what he does.
25:50
Speaker 1: The best part of what I think Jordan does is
25:53
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes stuff, teaching guys to playbook, teaching
25:56
Speaker 1: him to understand the verbage in the language and the
25:58
Speaker 1: stuff that they may uh eventually have to learn. He
26:01
Speaker 1: is well tapped in to a lot of the coaches
26:03
Speaker 1: that are in the league, and they kind of lean
26:06
Speaker 1: on him and they kind of use him as a
26:08
Speaker 1: conduit to get to the player, and so he'll do
26:10
Speaker 1: some of those things. So I'm sure he would have
26:12
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence well prepared to put on the show looking
26:15
Speaker 1: forward to it, like we're all looking forward to it,
26:18
Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to next week's Huddle Up podcast.
26:22
Speaker 1: We just renamed it today. John Ozer's senior writer Jaguars
26:25
Speaker 1: dot Com. We'll look forward at some point this week, John,
26:27
Speaker 1: to the coaching announcements. Maybe we'll see. If not, then
26:31
Speaker 1: at some point before the season they will the season.
26:35
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that. Thank you for that, John
26:37
Speaker 1: and Bucky. We will look forward to seeing you on
26:40
Speaker 1: NFL Network this Friday. I guess for the throwing from
26:44
Speaker 1: one Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, it should be a lot of fun.
26:47
Speaker 1: Man looking forward to it. And because the Jaguars have
26:50
Speaker 1: the number one, I just want to make sure. Let's
26:51
Speaker 1: see if you can go sixty for sixty. See if
26:53
Speaker 1: you can be perfect so we can get the energy up. Now.
26:55
Speaker 1: Remember Johnny Manzel had like two incompletions all day, so
26:59
Speaker 1: that was the best of what I've seen. Let's see
27:01
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