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Fmr. Gov. David Paterson (D-NY) | 05-25-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 3: Folks for talking today about a bunch of things we
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  Speaker 3: can't forget. Dominic and John, we got to talk about
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  Speaker 3: this Jackson Dart situation. Jackson dar At the star quarterback
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  Speaker 3: for the New York Giants, emerging last year as a rookie,
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  Speaker 3: looking very promising in his career, and it's just amazing
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  Speaker 3: that he was able to do. And you know, we've
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  Speaker 3: got Governor David Patterson on the line right now, our
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  Speaker 3: favorite common sense Democrat and Governor Patterson, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: great to talk to you on a day other than Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Although I really enjoy our conversations on the left f
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  Speaker 3: versus the right every week. But Congress and Patterson, you
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  Speaker 3: get a guy who all he did, Jackson Dart, all
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  Speaker 3: he did was introduce the president. He didn't say this
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  Speaker 3: is the greatest president. He didn't say I voted for him.
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  Speaker 3: He did say he was very honored. But then one
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  Speaker 3: of his teammates tries to call him out and basically
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  Speaker 3: say this S word I thought was not real. This
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  Speaker 3: is abdual Carter, his teammate. Apparently they've made up. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what's going on here, But Congress and Patterson,
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  Speaker 3: where are we in America when you can't even introduce
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  Speaker 3: the President of the United States without being called horrible names?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I couldn't get introduced without being demoted. I was
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  Speaker 4: Governor Patterson.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I made you a Congress You know what
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  Speaker 3: I just talked about. I say you were Governor Patterson,
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  Speaker 3: and I know that very well. Sorry about that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh but really the situation is we've gotten to a
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  Speaker 4: point in our society where everything is politicized. If they're
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be a speaker, the speaker doesn't show up
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  Speaker 4: and they get someone else. The person who introduces him
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  Speaker 4: is either thought to be a political ally or a foe.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it's gotten so bad that you've got
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  Speaker 4: this type of you know, a situation where Jackson Dark
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  Speaker 4: just did what anyone else would have done, and then
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  Speaker 4: the teammate looking for publicity and you know, attention to
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  Speaker 4: himself makes this kind of a situation of feud and
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  Speaker 4: the whole thing never should have happened in the first place.
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  Speaker 5: Governor, it's dominant. Good morning on this Memorial Day, Dominic Carter.
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  Speaker 5: And what I'm curious about. I saw your name. You
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  Speaker 5: made big headlines yesterday with mister Cantamatini's I'll let him
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  Speaker 5: discuss that with you. But I mean, Governor, you're a
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  Speaker 5: straight shooter. You've always been a straight shooter. So anybody
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  Speaker 5: that identifies with Trump at all, you're telling me, the
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  Speaker 5: left says is bad, awful, disgusting. All this quarterback said, well,
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  Speaker 5: he spoke for maybe Jake how long, less than a minute?
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  Speaker 3: Well, most of it was a giants chant, That's what
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  Speaker 3: he did, most of back blue and then for like
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  Speaker 3: and didn't that didn't go well. I guess I got
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  Speaker 3: some Patriots fans up there.
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  Speaker 5: Right right right, Well, it's right right up the block
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  Speaker 5: from where I lived, and so, but Governor, what time
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  Speaker 5: is it that these things are so So you're telling
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  Speaker 5: me that to the left, everything with Trump is bad,
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  Speaker 5: this Trump derangement syndrome.
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  Speaker 4: What I'm saying is that I didn't wouldn't have any
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  Speaker 4: problem with what happened. But what I'm saying is there
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  Speaker 4: are too many people who would only because of the
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  Speaker 4: political relationship that they determined. They don't know who Jackson
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  Speaker 4: Dort voted for, and uh, it was it was unnecessary.
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  Speaker 4: And I myself have run into the former president on
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  Speaker 4: a few occasions, and there were occasions when he was
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  Speaker 4: introduced and I was standing near him. There was one
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  Speaker 4: occasion where I was introduced and he patted me on
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  Speaker 4: the back, and it was I supposed to turn around
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  Speaker 4: and punch him because I didn't vote for him. And
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  Speaker 4: that's where my point is that we've allowed the situation
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  Speaker 4: as a society, a number of individuals who have allowed
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  Speaker 4: us to get to a point where we can't even
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  Speaker 4: work together anymore.
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  Speaker 6: It's horrible, it can't even work together anymore. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I go back to the days where Tip O'Neil and
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  Speaker 6: Ronald Reagan used to, you know, work things out for
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  Speaker 6: what's best for America, and nuke Gingridge and Bill Clinton
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  Speaker 6: working things out what's best for America. Bill Clinton and
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  Speaker 6: nuke Ingridge took me the deficit from five and a
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  Speaker 6: half trillion down to five trigon and now to thirty
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  Speaker 6: eight trigion.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a problem. I had the fortune when I
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  Speaker 4: was governor to work with the majority leader who lived
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  Speaker 4: outside of Albany, Joe Bruno, and he and I the
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  Speaker 4: budget would come down to the two of us trying
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  Speaker 4: to negotiate it, and there were times when we got
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  Speaker 4: on each other's nerves because we didn't agree, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just like any couple that's trying to work something out.
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  Speaker 4: But each time that we did, we were very proud
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  Speaker 4: of the fact, not only that we could pass the
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  Speaker 4: budget close to on time in those days. Now the
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  Speaker 4: budget just is barely passing now here to almost to
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  Speaker 4: at the end of May, and we prided ourselves on
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  Speaker 4: the fact that we could do that. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that our colleagues who work for us got along a
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  Speaker 4: lot better because you always watched to see what the
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  Speaker 4: leaders are doing, and we were working. We were not
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  Speaker 4: talking to the media yelling about who introduced what dinner
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  Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. This has really got not
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  Speaker 4: a hand, John.
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  Speaker 6: Definitely gotten out a hand in dominic. You see it, Jake,
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  Speaker 6: you see it. I mean, it's just, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: Democratic Party should be the people that have courage in
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  Speaker 6: the Democratic Party have we have two choices, and David
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  Speaker 6: Patterson you've spoken about it, Doug Shown has spoken about it.
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  Speaker 6: You have two choices. Either have the courage to take
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  Speaker 6: back the Democratic Party because the Socialist Party is going
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  Speaker 6: to try to take you out if you're an elected
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  Speaker 6: Democrat or this, or or they lose forty nine states
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  Speaker 6: like they did in nineteen eighty four.
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  Speaker 4: John, this is very serious. I was with former Governor
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  Speaker 4: Andrew Cromo within the last week and he's concerned about it.
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  Speaker 4: Like you said, Doug Shown. The political strategist is. I
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  Speaker 4: think that the people who have worked for the party
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  Speaker 4: for years, who are not recognizing that we're being in
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  Speaker 4: a sense, pushed out by a new, up and coming
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  Speaker 4: group of people who have no morals, none, They don't
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  Speaker 4: respect anything except their desire to have power, and for
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  Speaker 4: some reason they think that socialism is the answer. And
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  Speaker 4: every time socialism has superseded an existing government they wound
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  Speaker 4: up with tyranny. So I think some of these people
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  Speaker 4: who are getting caught up in it need to go
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  Speaker 4: back and read history, and some of these people who
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  Speaker 4: are organizing it, frankly need to be put out themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Governor Patterson, you made news yesterday on the CATS round
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  Speaker 3: Table talking about how it just astounds you that our
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  Speaker 3: current governor Kathy Hokeel would be pushing these policies where
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  Speaker 3: she's going to do the same thing that Mikey, Cheryl
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  Speaker 3: and some other governors have done, advising the law enforcement
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  Speaker 3: institutions in the state not to cooperate with federal agents, who, again,
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  Speaker 3: as you and I have pointed out on our own
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  Speaker 3: program many times, have clearly made the priority of going
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  Speaker 3: after violent illegal immigrants. They've made that clearly who they've
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  Speaker 3: gone after in just about every single case. They're going
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  Speaker 3: after violent criminals. Why would a governor not want their
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  Speaker 3: state cleared out of those people on the federal dime? Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 3: and yet she's going to push back on this, and
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  Speaker 3: you push back on it yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I haven't spoken to Governor Hockel, so I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if this was her preferred position or if she
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  Speaker 4: got boxed into this situation. All I was doing was
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  Speaker 4: letting people know what the result of it is going
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  Speaker 4: to be. And the result of it is going to
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  Speaker 4: be that a lawsuit. Because the federal government is constitutionally
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  Speaker 4: a level up from the state government, you have to
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  Speaker 4: abide by the rules, and the federal government in this
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  Speaker 4: particular case, wants to do this. I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 4: the people who aren't happy about it have to like it.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have to like it, but that is something
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  Speaker 4: that is right now. We have to govern ourselves by
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  Speaker 4: the rules that was set up going back to the
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  Speaker 4: beginning of our government and through all the different trials
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  Speaker 4: and tribulations. That's why this Memorial Day should be a
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  Speaker 4: day that we're all sellen about those who fought and
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  Speaker 4: died or those who fought and seriously injured to defend
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  Speaker 4: this country. And so for whoever it was that drafted
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  Speaker 4: this legislation, they are way off and they're going to
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  Speaker 4: lose in court. And when they lose in court, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to open the door for a whole lot of
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  Speaker 4: things that they're not going to like.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's a good segue, because Governor, as you know,
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  Speaker 3: the last time we had this kind of an issue
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  Speaker 3: with the supremacy clause. We had individual states deciding to
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  Speaker 3: buck what the federal government wanted. We had something called
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  Speaker 3: the Civil War. And when you and I were in school,
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  Speaker 3: they used to tell us that five hundred thousand people
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  Speaker 3: died in the Civil War. Do you know, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: that the new accounting, based on new evidence, is that
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  Speaker 3: seven hundred thousand Americans died in the Civil War. Can
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  Speaker 3: we please avoid armed conflict again? I mean this feels
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  Speaker 3: like I just feel like we're in eighteen forty eight now,
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  Speaker 3: bleeding Kansas. There's no reason for us to be fighting
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  Speaker 3: over this, least slavery. There was some common sense there
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  Speaker 3: and decency. We wanted to end slavery. Were literally going
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  Speaker 3: to have people killing other people because they want to
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  Speaker 3: protect violent illegal immigrants.
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  Speaker 6: I remember history repeats itself, Yeah, in a bad way.
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  Speaker 4: And I think John will remember remember this, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: not going to call the person out. But we were
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  Speaker 4: doing the show, The five o'clock Show, Jake. This is
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  Speaker 4: about a year and a half ago, And when I
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  Speaker 4: left the studio, I hailed a taxi and I'm coming
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  Speaker 4: back home. The phone rings and a well known leader
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  Speaker 4: from around the state, says to me, when are you
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  Speaker 4: changing your resignation? When are you changing are your voter
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  Speaker 4: registration card to Republican? And I addressed the person by
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  Speaker 4: their name and said to them that I had been
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  Speaker 4: trying to talk to them for two months and they
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  Speaker 4: hadn't returned my calls and if that's what it took,
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  Speaker 4: I'll do it tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: And I remember, I'm not going to mention any name
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  Speaker 6: because I know who it is, but he's a Star
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  Speaker 6: Trek fan, and I like the guy as a person, but.
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  Speaker 4: His politics, person yeah, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, his politics and aubity is hurting our city, in
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  Speaker 6: our state.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately it is. And excuse me. I just looked back
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  Speaker 4: to the time period that I was there at times
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  Speaker 4: when I thought that the place was just a wreck,
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  Speaker 4: like it could never be fixed. And yet from the
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  Speaker 4: leadership that took over, you know, after Sheldon Silver and
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  Speaker 4: Bruno and others had been there, really started to work
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  Speaker 4: things out. And I think it's actually the issues that
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  Speaker 4: are going on in the federal government that are causing
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  Speaker 4: the people who are operating the state budget and operating
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  Speaker 4: the state services to allow themselves to be politicized. You
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  Speaker 4: just can't do it. We're going to open the door
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  Speaker 4: for somebody to come in, and when they start running
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  Speaker 4: the country, none of us are going to like it
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  Speaker 4: because it won't be fair.
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  Speaker 3: Well, former Governor David Patterson, sorry for that emotion. I'll
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  Speaker 3: have you down to mayor by the time I speak
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  Speaker 3: to you next time. Got your former Governor, David Patterson.
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  Speaker 6: The big mistake, I gotta say this, We got a
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  Speaker 6: meditative next break. The big mistake that Governor Patterson made,
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  Speaker 6: and we're friends for a long time, is when it
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  Speaker 6: came time for him to when Hillary Clinton became Secretary
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  Speaker 6: of State and it came time for him to appoint
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  Speaker 6: a new US Senator, he should have appointed himself. They
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  Speaker 6: would have called him a kill joy for about three days.
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  Speaker 5: I have no comment, Governor. No Dominic has no comment
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  Speaker 5: on this time. And he would have been still the
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  Speaker 5: US Senator for a New York state. And Governor, you
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  Speaker 5: screwed up. You should have named yourself and you know,
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  Speaker 5: God bless New York.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'll work on the current majority leader of the
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  Speaker 4: Senate to try to fix that mistake that I made.
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  Speaker 3: Read a little more Machiavelli and maybe he'll make the
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  Speaker 3: right decision.
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  Speaker 4: Say.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's it's kind of an inside joke what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying to the governor, because you know, at one
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  Speaker 5: time we didn't see eye to eye. But he's a
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  Speaker 5: great man. I wish he would have appointed himself to
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  Speaker 5: the to the Senate. I remember going on face the
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  Speaker 5: nation and they wanted to know what was Patterson going
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  Speaker 5: to do? And I was hoping and praying that he
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  Speaker 5: would appoint himself. And I agree he would still be
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  Speaker 5: The Senator called.
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  Speaker 6: Him a kill joy for about three days.
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  Speaker 5: Right, you know what, why do to us?
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  Speaker 6: Senator?
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  Speaker 4: Right? Right? Right?
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  Speaker 5: So I made no comment Governor, no comment from Domini.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna take a break. It's John Katsmetiti's,
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  Speaker 3: Jake Novak and Dominic Carter. The cats are playing while
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  Speaker 3: lot of great guests, including Fernando Matteo in the next time.
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  Speaker 6: What the heck is going on here