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The DiCecco Daily: What Will Be The Key To Eagles Offensive Success In 2026? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody?
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Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of The Checko Daily. It's Andrew
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Speaker 2: de Checko here, Eagles beat reporter for insidethebirds dot Com,
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Speaker 2: and the podcast continue to churn on. Even though this
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Speaker 2: is considered to be the dead zone as it pertains
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Speaker 2: to the NFL calendar, there's still plenty of things to
0:26
Speaker 2: get into regarding the Philadelphia Eagles, and I want to
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Speaker 2: spend some time today talking about what I perceive to
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Speaker 2: be the key to the Eagles offense in twenty twenty six.
0:36
Speaker 1: Now, it shouldn't.
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Speaker 2: Be perceived as a revelation and it's not breaking news,
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Speaker 2: but the Eagles offensive line is going to be key
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Speaker 2: if this offense is going to really take flight this season. Now, understandably,
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Speaker 2: a lot of the conversation I imagine stems from the newness
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Speaker 2: of the offense.
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Speaker 1: How is it going to look as Sean.
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Speaker 2: Mannion installs his new scheme, which of course is a
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Speaker 2: drastic departure from what the Eagles have done in the past.
1:09
Speaker 2: There's the passing game woes from last season. In the
1:13
Speaker 2: season prior that has been a big topic of conversation.
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Speaker 2: What's that ultimately going to look like? How will Jay
1:19
Speaker 2: when Hurts be able to adapt to yet another offensive
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Speaker 2: coordinator and yet another well this is I shouldn't say
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Speaker 2: another this schematic change, which is a stark contrast to
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Speaker 2: what they've done under him. But it all is going
1:33
Speaker 2: to be dependent upon the health of the offensive line.
1:36
Speaker 2: For the running game to get back on track, for
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Speaker 2: the passing game to really flourish, the Eagles have to
1:42
Speaker 2: have a healthy offensive line, which, as we've seen, when
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Speaker 2: they are, they're among the league's best, might even be
1:51
Speaker 2: the league's best. That's all subjective, but I think it
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Speaker 2: was really relevant. Hearing from center Cam Jurgens last week,
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Speaker 2: hearing from right tackle Lane Johnson week, Both players, needless
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Speaker 2: to say, are going to be key to getting this
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Speaker 2: offense back to where.
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Speaker 1: It needs to be.
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Speaker 2: But you could just see the eagerness and the excitement
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Speaker 2: and optimism surrounding this offense.
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Speaker 1: They also seem to be just.
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Speaker 2: A whole lot more healthy than they were last season,
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Speaker 2: which obviously is going to present you know, it presented
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Speaker 2: in the fact that they seemed a lot more, a
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Speaker 2: lot happier, a lot just a lot more eager and anticipate,
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Speaker 2: anticipating what's ahead with this offense, and that really came
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Speaker 2: across when you listen to them in their press conferences
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Speaker 2: and for Cam Jurgons, and I'm not going to bore
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Speaker 2: you or get into some of these lengthier quotes, but
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Speaker 2: I think it's important to get into because it does
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Speaker 2: provide a lot of context. Cam Jurgens of course went
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Speaker 2: to medin for stem cell treatment, and mind you, last season.
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Speaker 1: He never really had an offseason.
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Speaker 2: He had offseason back surgery after the Super Bowl, and
3:00
Speaker 2: that takes a lot of time to revert back to
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Speaker 2: your previous form. And working in his favor is that
3:06
Speaker 2: he is a younger player. He is exhausting all options
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Speaker 2: to ensure that he's going to enter training camp and
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Speaker 2: if you're an Eagles fan, hopefully the regular season as.
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Speaker 1: Healthy as possible.
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Speaker 2: But he spoke for the first time about the stem
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Speaker 2: cell treatment, and some of what he had to say
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Speaker 2: was when you go through a season, you get a
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Speaker 2: lot of wear and tear, and that's kind of how
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Speaker 2: the NFL is. And it's always tough going in after
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl getting back surgery and you don't really
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Speaker 2: get that off season.
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Speaker 1: That's always a tough thing.
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Speaker 2: When you get surgery, it's like you don't get an
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Speaker 2: off season and you're just rehabbing, and then you're going
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Speaker 2: right into the next season and then you're trying to rehab,
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Speaker 2: you're trying to.
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Speaker 1: Get through things. But he also said, I play in
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Speaker 1: the NFL.
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Speaker 2: They pay me money, and so I'm going to do
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Speaker 2: everything I can to get my body right.
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Speaker 1: You know, though, that's a great option for us.
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Speaker 2: Talk to a lot of guys around the league, and
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Speaker 2: so many people have used stem cells, and I've noticed
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Speaker 2: such a good change since I've been down there, and
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Speaker 2: you can see it. And again they're not in full pads,
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Speaker 2: but in terms of his movement and mobility and just
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Speaker 2: the burst that he's playing with. You can see it
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Speaker 2: in the way that Cam Jurgens is sort of operating
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Speaker 2: and functioning right now, at least in the.
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Speaker 1: Practices open to reporters.
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Speaker 2: And then when you hear him at the podium, he
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Speaker 2: seems just a lot happier and that he's in a
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Speaker 2: good place from a health standpoint. And we'll learn more
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Speaker 2: in training camp when you're a little bit more prone
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Speaker 2: to the wear and tear, you're combating defensive linemen and
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Speaker 2: things ramp up a little bit in terms of intensity.
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Speaker 2: But I think that that was important to note for
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Speaker 2: Cam and you have to commend him for doing whatever
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Speaker 2: he can possibly do to try to maximize his health.
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Speaker 1: And he talked about he said, stems have.
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Speaker 2: Been around, have been going on for a long time. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'm not the first one, won't be the last one.
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Speaker 2: Just a case, a lot of good cases. People going
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Speaker 2: down there and saying it helps me heal, it's going
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Speaker 2: to help you get into a better position. You know,
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Speaker 2: we're paid a lot of money to do our job
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Speaker 2: and we have to use all the resources we can.
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Speaker 2: Watching Cam Jurgens last season, it wasn't a talent drop off.
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Speaker 2: He didn't have an anomaly type of season in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four. He's a good football player who was clearly
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Speaker 2: hampered by the off season back surgery that he just
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Speaker 2: never was able to round back into form, and you
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Speaker 2: saw it manifest in losing battles at the line of
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Speaker 2: scrimmage that he doesn't typically lose, and it looked like
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Speaker 2: it inhibited the Eagles' ability to do some of the
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Speaker 2: things they wanted to do offensively. Now at full strength,
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Speaker 2: Cam Jurgens is an athletic center, someone who can really
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Speaker 2: in theory thrive in Sean Mannion's scheme. Under Chris Cooper,
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Speaker 2: they're going to be a lot more wide zone concept,
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Speaker 2: which you're going to take advantage of the athleticism and
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Speaker 2: fluidity of these offensive linemen moving laterally, stretching defenses horizontally
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Speaker 2: and being able to climb to the second level. So
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Speaker 2: movement and having that springiness that he had in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four is going to be paramount for this offense
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Speaker 2: to be able to fully imagine what they're looking to
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Speaker 2: accomplish here under Seawan Mannion.
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Speaker 1: And then he cam spoke.
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Speaker 2: About what he noticed that he's able to do now
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Speaker 2: since getting the treatment, and kind of like I was
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Speaker 2: alluding to, he said, it's hard to tell with the
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Speaker 2: treatment if it helps or doesn't.
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Speaker 1: But like at the same time, we're getting.
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Speaker 2: So much time off and we get a full off
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Speaker 2: season to train and prepare, so it's like I can't
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Speaker 2: pinpoint everything. I'm doing so many different things all over
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Speaker 2: the place to help my body and just get in
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Speaker 2: a good spot for this next season, So I can't
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Speaker 2: pinpoint everything. So I can't pinpoint anything. But it's just
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Speaker 2: pain has gone down, you know, daily living, quality of
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Speaker 2: life is better, but that's what you expect from an.
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Speaker 1: Off season, and he said that he likes the system.
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Speaker 2: He talked about that a lot of teams run it
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Speaker 2: and it lets you be more of an athlete, which
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Speaker 2: I think will really cater to Cam Jurgen's skill set.
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Speaker 2: But you know they're just doing it really is and
7:18
Speaker 2: he said this, it's more of a walkthrough in the spring,
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Speaker 2: which is why you can never fully read too much
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Speaker 2: into spring practices. But what I can tell you and
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Speaker 2: what I tend to look for in spring practices or
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Speaker 2: how are players moving, how are they returning from injury,
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Speaker 2: and you kind of get a little bit of a
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Speaker 2: sense for where they are from a health perspective going
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Speaker 2: into training camp. And he looks a lot different than
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Speaker 2: he did last spring when he was clearly working through
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Speaker 2: some things. In fact, if I remember correctly, I don't
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Speaker 2: even know if he was. He clearly wasn't participating last
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Speaker 2: spring as he was mending from.
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Speaker 1: The back surgery.
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Speaker 2: So he's clearly in a better spot from a health standpoint.
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Speaker 2: We'll see where it goes from here. But he said
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Speaker 2: a lot of really good things. And then when he
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Speaker 2: was talking about offensive line coach Chris Cooper, and I
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Speaker 2: think right now, And I know that it's easy to
8:07
Speaker 2: be infatuated with everything right now, and there's always going
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Speaker 2: to be a lot of optimism at this stage of
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Speaker 2: the offseason. But just seeing the way Chris Cooper sort
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Speaker 2: of operates and conducts his practices and the vision that
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Speaker 2: he has for his offensive lineman he played the game before.
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Speaker 2: I thought what Cam Jurgens had a lot had to
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Speaker 2: say about Chris Cooper was sort of almost in lockstep
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Speaker 2: with what Lane Johnson had to say about him, and
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Speaker 2: he said he's really enjoying it. And it's a different
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Speaker 2: room obviously, you know, came here with Stout, learns so
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Speaker 2: much from him, and now Coop's here. And it's interesting
8:41
Speaker 2: going from Stout to Coop because Cooper is a former
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Speaker 2: player and so he sat in this seat and he's
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Speaker 2: been where we have been and has gone through a
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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that we have. So it's just a
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Speaker 2: different vantage point and it's a whole different scheme. So
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Speaker 2: it's fun learning new techniques and new ways to do things,
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Speaker 2: and I've had a great time learning it so far.
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Speaker 2: A lot of good there from Cam Jurgens, and I
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Speaker 2: thought that that was one of the more interesting press
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Speaker 2: conferences of the spring session, because he is going to
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Speaker 2: be key for this offense to be fully realized.
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Speaker 1: Through the vision of Sean Mannion.
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Speaker 2: So that was sort of some of my takeaways, and
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Speaker 2: I read for you some quotes there about Cam Jurgens.
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Speaker 2: But I also want to now flip back to something
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Speaker 2: that I talked about last week where I mentioned Lane Johnson.
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Speaker 2: I talk about how Cam Jurgens is going to be key, well,
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Speaker 2: so will Lane Johnson. And we didn't hear from Landon
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Speaker 2: Dickerson during the spring practices, and I imagine we will fairly.
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Speaker 2: I imagine it would be somewhat early into the training
9:39
Speaker 2: camp period, but he's another player that you can certainly
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Speaker 2: make a case for. But Lane Johnson, it's important to
9:45
Speaker 2: note that before he got injured, he was still playing
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Speaker 2: at a very high level, so one can presume that
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Speaker 2: if all is well in terms of health, Lane Johnson
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Speaker 2: should be able to kind of go back out there
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Speaker 2: and be the player he was last season and really
10:02
Speaker 2: through the entirety of his career. He's a little bit
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Speaker 2: advanced in terms of age and offensive tackle you know,
10:09
Speaker 2: in terms of offensive tackles as well, but he takes
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Speaker 2: care of himself he is a tireless worker when it
10:15
Speaker 2: comes to off season workouts, so.
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Speaker 1: As long as he's full.
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Speaker 2: Strength, adding a healthy Lane Johnson and getting Cam Jurgens
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Speaker 2: back into the mix being at well, you're never going
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Speaker 2: to be at full strength, but as close as you
10:31
Speaker 2: can possibly be. You're never at full strength when you
10:34
Speaker 2: play in the NFL. There's always going to be bumps
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Speaker 2: and bruises. But clearly they were both They both suffered
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Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of pain. They want They
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Speaker 2: battled through a lot of pain, and I think it's
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Speaker 2: also worth reiterating that both players battled off season. For Lane,
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Speaker 2: he went until he couldn't win. The injury shelved them
10:52
Speaker 2: for the remainder of the year. But Cam Jurgens and
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Speaker 2: Landon Dickerson, those guys were were warriors in the way
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Speaker 2: that they were able to battle through a lot of
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Speaker 2: pain that they were going through on a weekly basis,
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Speaker 2: doing whatever they had to do throughout the week to
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Speaker 2: ensure they were out there for their teammates. Was the
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Speaker 2: product good enough from an offensive perspective, No, it clearly wasn't.
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Speaker 2: Otherwise the Eagles wouldn't be undergoing pretty significant changes on
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Speaker 2: the offensive side.
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Speaker 1: But they didn't.
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Speaker 2: There's no talent drop off here. These are the same
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Speaker 2: players that were part of a historic offensive line in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. The key here is obviously going to
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Speaker 2: be health and sustaining that health and doing whatever you
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Speaker 2: can to ensure that.
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Speaker 1: Some of those issues don't surface again.
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Speaker 2: But and I read some of what Lane Johnson had
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Speaker 2: to say last week, but he spoke about we'll talk
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Speaker 2: more here about the process and Chris Cooper, and he
11:54
Speaker 2: said again the playing experience. He talked to players at Minnesota,
11:58
Speaker 2: namely Brian O'Neill, who's one of their offensive lineman. Dallas
12:01
Speaker 2: Goddard mentioned Brian O'Neal as well, so there seems to
12:04
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a connection there. But Brian
12:07
Speaker 2: O'Neal said that Chris Cooper was his favorite offensive line
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Speaker 2: coach that he's had since he's been in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: So he said it didn't take him long to realize
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Speaker 2: what kind of teacher he was in the classroom and
12:18
Speaker 2: even some of the remote stuff that he was that
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Speaker 2: Lane was doing on Zoom. Great teacher, as Lane said,
12:24
Speaker 2: so he knows how you know, being a player to
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Speaker 2: apply the communication aspect, which Lane believes is really good,
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Speaker 2: and he just believes that the system is going to
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Speaker 2: be more efficient for them, and I think it will.
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Speaker 2: Lane talked about now getting guard help for the first
12:38
Speaker 2: time in his career, whereas for years it's just been
12:42
Speaker 2: a monoy mono one on one battle. So now if
12:45
Speaker 2: he loses a matchup, he'll have a guard there to
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Speaker 2: help him out. But I think that this new system,
12:51
Speaker 2: which is going to really prioritize and emphasize athleticism and
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Speaker 2: movement ability from the offensive line, really is going to
12:59
Speaker 2: cater to the sh strengths of the players that the
13:01
Speaker 2: Eagles have, and it could be key in unlocking a
13:05
Speaker 2: crucial element to this offense, which I know that there's
13:08
Speaker 2: a lot made about the passing game, but I think
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Speaker 2: this is.
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Speaker 1: All going to be and revolve around the running game.
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Speaker 2: So I do foresee a big season from Saquon Barkley,
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Speaker 2: and obviously that's going to be predicated on the players
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Speaker 2: blocking up front. But he talked about the injuries from
13:24
Speaker 2: last season. He said, other than last year, I had
13:26
Speaker 2: a stinger. Other than that, I felt fine. It was
13:29
Speaker 2: really the first play versus Detroit last year he went
13:33
Speaker 2: to power step and tried to anchor he felt his
13:36
Speaker 2: foot pop and he thought it was plantar fasciitis in
13:39
Speaker 2: his foot. Then after the next series, he said, he
13:41
Speaker 2: took a bull rush from Aiden Hutchinson and I couldn't
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Speaker 2: anchor and I was like, something's wrong.
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Speaker 1: It was a blow to me.
13:47
Speaker 2: I was having a great year, which I absolutely agree with,
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Speaker 2: and he said, I felt like we were at a
13:52
Speaker 2: point in the season where we were starting to make
13:54
Speaker 2: a turn, have the ability to do more, but when
13:56
Speaker 2: it came down to this, it took so much time.
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Speaker 1: It took a lot of rehab.
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Speaker 2: And then he also mentioned talking to the likes of
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Speaker 2: Zach Vonn and The Kobe, who.
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Speaker 1: Both suffered similar injuries in the past.
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Speaker 2: He also spoke about why he doesn't believe the offense
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Speaker 2: will be stagnant relative to what we all saw last season,
14:18
Speaker 2: and he said, it's just different points.
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Speaker 1: Of emphasis run game.
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Speaker 2: You have the ability to stretch it front side, but
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Speaker 2: also the running back has the ability to read backside
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Speaker 2: blocks more than maybe what we did in previous years.
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Speaker 2: I just think for us really does a good job
14:32
Speaker 2: talking about the offense, It really does a good job
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Speaker 2: of allowing us to run. We have a lot of
14:35
Speaker 2: athletic guys up front, so being able to stretch the field,
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Speaker 2: make the dtackles run, make the linebackers run, cover all
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Speaker 2: this ground, and then setting up with the play action.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a whole lot tougher to distinguish
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Speaker 2: what we're doing and a whole lot harder to catch
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Speaker 2: on tells with stuff so we can disguise it more.
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Speaker 2: I've watched this system, Kubiak Shanahan style of offense from Afar,
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Speaker 2: and I've always envied wanting to be a part of it.
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Speaker 2: So here I am, for all these years getting that chance.
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Speaker 2: Not to say we're going to be better, but there's
15:04
Speaker 2: a lot to learn. I think we have the ability
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Speaker 2: to be a lot more than what we were last year.
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Speaker 2: Up spoke glowingly about offensive coordinator Sean Mannion, which is
16:14
Speaker 2: a common theme. If you listen to any of the
16:16
Speaker 2: prominent offensive voices, there's a lot of excitement. There's a
16:20
Speaker 2: lot of anticipation for what this scheme will bring. And
16:23
Speaker 2: so when you hear someone like Lane Johnson, who when
16:27
Speaker 2: he speaks, it's wise to listen to what he has
16:29
Speaker 2: to say because he doesn't say anything just to fill space.
16:34
Speaker 2: There's not hollow praise or anything like that. When you
16:36
Speaker 2: hear almost a veteran like that almost sound reinvigorated, that
16:43
Speaker 2: should really instill some confidence with what the Eagles have
16:47
Speaker 2: on tap.
16:48
Speaker 1: Moving forward.
16:48
Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot that has to happen between now
16:51
Speaker 2: and the start of the regular season. But the key
16:54
Speaker 2: to everything, before you get to the passing game and
16:56
Speaker 2: the running game, it stems from what the Eagles are
16:59
Speaker 2: going to get upfront from the offensive line, and what
17:02
Speaker 2: we were able to learn during spring practices suggests that
17:06
Speaker 2: they are on the right track. And you don't often
17:09
Speaker 2: hear or see just the just the excitement and how
17:16
Speaker 2: much they're looking forward to seeing what's ahead and what
17:19
Speaker 2: this offense can provide and and the you know, from
17:24
Speaker 2: my perspective, you're not going to see it become as
17:27
Speaker 2: predictable as it was last season. Now, a lot of
17:30
Speaker 2: that predictability was derived from the Eagles continuously being behind
17:34
Speaker 2: the sticks. That can't happen or they will be predictable
17:37
Speaker 2: once again.
17:38
Speaker 1: But I think right now.
17:40
Speaker 2: When you're looking at the key to the Eagle success
17:42
Speaker 2: here from an offensive perspective, it is all revolving around
17:47
Speaker 2: the offensive line, and if they are able to get
17:50
Speaker 2: to September and it was close to full strength as
17:54
Speaker 2: possible with that starting lineup, I think you're going to
17:57
Speaker 2: see them still be able to drive defenders off the ball.
18:02
Speaker 2: You're gonna see them be able to do some unique
18:03
Speaker 2: things in terms of their movement and really stretching teams
18:07
Speaker 2: and putting a unique emphasis on their athleticism. And then
18:11
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, who I've talked a lot about this offseason.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he lost a step at all. I
18:16
Speaker 2: think a lot of what he was trying to do
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Speaker 2: last season was, you know, was sort of a byproduct
18:25
Speaker 2: of running lanes not being there like they were in
18:27
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, and he was trying to make something happen.
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Speaker 2: And sometimes when you do that, you find yourself pressing,
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Speaker 2: whether you realize it or not. And it looked a
18:35
Speaker 2: lot like Saquon was pressing trying to hit the home
18:38
Speaker 2: run rather than take the three or four yards in
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Speaker 2: front of him. But but now there's you know, it's
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Speaker 2: a new season, so we'll see, we'll see what happens there.
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Speaker 2: But I kind of wanted to put now that I
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Speaker 2: have some time, put everything into context here. You're gonna
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Speaker 2: hear you're gonna probably wonder about the running game, You're
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Speaker 2: gonna wonder about the passing game, you're gonna wonder about
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Speaker 2: how they're able to marry the two, but none of
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Speaker 2: that matters if you don't have a healthy offensive line,
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Speaker 2: because as we saw last season, you can have all.
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Speaker 1: The talent in the world.
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Speaker 2: They ran a similar scheme to what they've done in
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Speaker 2: the past, but the results weren't there. Why because they
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Speaker 2: didn't have all world talent healthy and available and able
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Speaker 2: to operate at peak efficiency. So that seems, at least
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Speaker 2: right now, that that's going to be a change for
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Speaker 2: the better for the Philadelphia Eagles. But just sort of
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Speaker 2: my Monday musing here. We'll have plenty more in the
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Speaker 2: coming days and weeks, of course, right here on Inside
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Speaker 2: the Birds and on The Checko Daily, But for now,
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Speaker 2: that's going to do it for this episode of The
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Speaker 2: Checho Daily.
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Speaker 1: I'm Andrew de Checko.
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Speaker 2: We'll catch you all on the next one.