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Mac & Bone Hour 4: LAMELO TRADED TO MINNESOTA · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: What teams you hear this from, Brian, what teams make
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  Speaker 1: the most sense in your opinion?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the team that.
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  Speaker 3: You're hearing about the most from people around the league
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  Speaker 3: is the Minnesota Timberwolves. And it's no secret they've been
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  Speaker 3: star hunting in the last handful of transaction cycles. They
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  Speaker 3: don't have a lot of assets in terms of future picks,
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  Speaker 3: but they've been trying to find that co star to
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  Speaker 3: pair with Anthony Edwards. There's definitely interest there. There are
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  Speaker 3: other teams involved, but again, the Timberwolves are the team
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  Speaker 3: that you're hearing the most about.
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  Speaker 4: That is Tim McMahon ESPN on Get Up this morning
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  Speaker 4: talking about the major report from Sean Sharania now initially
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  Speaker 4: and now many others about LaMelo Ball and the Hornets
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  Speaker 4: engaged in trade talk surrounding LaMelo Ball. You heard him
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  Speaker 4: say Timberwolves, the or the are in the mixed Toronto.
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  Speaker 4: We also heard Milwaukee as well. Bone keeps giving me
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  Speaker 4: names that are being mentioned on social media as people
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  Speaker 4: that could come back our way, and I am just thinking,
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  Speaker 4: why do we want these individuals, Like why are we
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  Speaker 4: trading the face of the franchise and our best player
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  Speaker 4: to get a hold of let me check the notes
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  Speaker 4: Bone gave me here. Grady freakin' Dick, Yeah, what the
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  Speaker 4: hell are we doing here?
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  Speaker 5: Up on the Toronto side, Dick's been involved heavily in
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  Speaker 5: the U in the rumors here, an athletic writer, First
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  Speaker 5: of all, Rod Boone has a source article of this
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  Speaker 5: Morning from the October that says, yeah, sources are saying,
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  Speaker 5: well what Chom said, but that Toronto has been the
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  Speaker 5: most aggressive team in pursuit of Mellow. So the athletic
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  Speaker 5: writer for the Raptors puts out scenarios that he could
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  Speaker 5: see happening get LaMelo ball. One was involving r J.
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  Speaker 5: Barrett and Grady Dick. One was involving quickly, and one
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  Speaker 5: was involving Brandon Ingram, who doesn't make a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 5: Good player, but for what the Hornets need him, and
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  Speaker 5: Brandon Millery doesn't really Brandon Miller is kind of a
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  Speaker 5: version of Brandon Ingram. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 5: So the fans, the Rafter writers thinking, how can we
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  Speaker 5: just steal away LaMelo by giving up quickly Grady Dick
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  Speaker 5: or RJ.
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  Speaker 2: Barrett? And the Minnesota stuff is ridiculous too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, who would give me the list of guys you
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  Speaker 4: were saying that people are writing that like Minnesota does not.
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  Speaker 2: Look at well.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously Anthony Edwards is all he's probably off the table
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  Speaker 5: for about anybody, but he's off the table. They will
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  Speaker 5: not trade McDaniels to anybody else. He's part of their core.
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  Speaker 5: He's not moved. He's untouchable for them. They will also
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  Speaker 5: mac not move Big Ragou, Donte DiVincenzo, they will not
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  Speaker 5: move nas Reed, and they only have one of their
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  Speaker 5: next three first round draft voices. They would have to
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  Speaker 5: get a third team involved that. There's no way they
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  Speaker 5: can get them with the way I mean, it's really
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  Speaker 5: go bear is the one thing? Shannon, Oh, Terren, Shannon's available?
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  Speaker 5: Because I saw somebody and then they just signed to
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  Speaker 5: Sumu so to a big deal, so that they just
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  Speaker 5: signed a suba right, Yeah, and they want Mellow. So
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  Speaker 5: do we get end up getting to Sumu because Disubu
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  Speaker 5: went Mellow? Is that gonna work well together?
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  Speaker 4: That's a lot of money to the point going, But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that'd be nice of them, wouldn't it be nice? On Grandpa?
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  Speaker 4: I don't It's just what are we getting out of this?
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  Speaker 4: It feels like you have teams trying to swindle Jeff Peterson,
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  Speaker 4: is what it feels like to me, and and and god,
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  Speaker 4: I would hope that Jeff Peterson, who wins every trade seemingly,
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  Speaker 4: I would hope bone that this may he even won
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  Speaker 4: a trade with OKC when Gordon Hayward couldn't be a
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  Speaker 4: factor for them at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know a lot of people point out to Jeff
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  Speaker 4: Peterson is just gonna kick save these things away.
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  Speaker 5: And the people are texting in if if it's balling
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  Speaker 5: Dick in Toronto, how is that common gonna work out there?
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  Speaker 5: How does ball mesh with Dick out there as a combo?
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  Speaker 6: Is that?
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  Speaker 5: Is that what Toronto wats?
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  Speaker 2: How much to answer that question? Serious? Are you boops?
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  Speaker 6: Man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure things out here.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you just deadpanned that and wanted
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  Speaker 4: us to laugh, or are you just somehow the most
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  Speaker 4: mature person in the room right it's safe?
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  Speaker 5: Are we fitting? I'd be in children? You can't spell
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  Speaker 5: bone without professionalism? Somehow that doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I feel like if you're gonna go with that
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  Speaker 4: tandem bone, then you would need jello too, because you
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  Speaker 4: need to anyway, exact way?
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  Speaker 7: All right?
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  Speaker 2: What did I Why did I go there? All right?
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, if you guys want to jump in, it feels
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  Speaker 4: like eighty percent on the text line upset and worried,
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  Speaker 4: like are you gonna do this?
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  Speaker 2: We finally have momentum.
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  Speaker 4: LaMelo had a year where show growth as a player
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  Speaker 4: and health wise. The timing of this doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 4: We finally have momentum as a team. Shouldn't we be
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  Speaker 4: adding commodities instead of getting a ri get rid of
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  Speaker 4: our best play. That feels like that's eighty percent of
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  Speaker 4: the feelings out there. I want to do. I want
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  Speaker 4: to do a pulse of panthonytion. You're going to read
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  Speaker 4: a or a Hornets Nation. We're going to read a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of texts. If you guys do want to get
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  Speaker 4: in on the phone lines. The phone lines were lively
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  Speaker 4: earlier at seven o'clock when we opened abup. If anybody
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  Speaker 4: wants to jump in on the phone lines and vent
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  Speaker 4: on this one. Does anybody understand this? Does any can
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  Speaker 4: anybody make some sense of it to us? Or does
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  Speaker 4: this one freak you out as well? There's also bone
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  Speaker 4: the idea of the truck seven oh four five, seven
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  Speaker 4: oh nine, sixteen. If you want to jump in on
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  Speaker 4: the phone lines or text Dan, I want to make
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  Speaker 4: sure bone we get some more you know, listener opinions
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  Speaker 4: in here, either calls or read a bunch of these texts.
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  Speaker 4: Throughout this segment, we've got Taris Ogleby. Oglesby, who's going
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  Speaker 4: to join us at nine to twenty five. He thought
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  Speaker 4: he was coming on to do a Hornet's Draft recap,
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  Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden, he's right in the middle,
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  Speaker 4: in the middle list. And I do remember in the
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  Speaker 4: past he did not hold back on LaMelo Ball. In
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  Speaker 4: the past, he did not, So I'll be curious to
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  Speaker 4: see if he finds this as nonsensical as we do.
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  Speaker 4: Where can he see the value in this?
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  Speaker 5: We were also roughly slated to have Charles leon in
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  Speaker 5: this hour. Apparently that is that's all right now. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what it's occurred, but it's not happening. I
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  Speaker 5: know KP was gonna have Jeff Peterson.
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  Speaker 4: I was dying to hear what Jeff Peterson I'd say
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  Speaker 4: about his draft, and I don't know if that's now
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  Speaker 4: on jail. I just don't know, man, I don't like
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  Speaker 4: that there's nothing good coming out of this, except for
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  Speaker 4: the fact Bone, that we have been giving up layup
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  Speaker 4: of a radio show that people are so into. We've
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  Speaker 4: gotten June content, but I could have just as sided it,
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  Speaker 4: even a tough lay of a micing layout. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 4: So you can hit this? What avan marka hit it?
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  Speaker 4: Blindfolded man? Right now, I'm telling you you could spin
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  Speaker 4: him around like a top. He can dal this layout.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he would hit this dang lay up. All right,
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  Speaker 4: let's one okay, the one other thing, because I want
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  Speaker 4: to get some calls on. I want to read some
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  Speaker 4: of y'all's text before we get ogles. Beyond here, we've
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  Speaker 4: gotten a lot. I will say this I said about
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  Speaker 4: only about twenty percent seemed to be like defending this
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  Speaker 4: sell high.
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  Speaker 2: You know you.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe they don't believe Lamola can stay healthy and they're
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  Speaker 4: trying to sell high. But those offers we're getting don't
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  Speaker 4: sound like a hot, high value sale. There's the other
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  Speaker 4: angle here that we keep getting. It's the don't we
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  Speaker 4: trust Jeff Peterson crowd, Now read one of those texts
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  Speaker 4: seven oh four number Mack and Bone. I have been
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  Speaker 4: with you, guys, lockstep when you have professed your trust
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  Speaker 4: for Jeff Peterson. Don't we just have to trust trust
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  Speaker 4: that Jeff Peterson will only do this if it's a
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  Speaker 4: deal that benefits us, and if it's a crappy offer,
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  Speaker 4: he will not be hoodwinked. Do you how do you
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  Speaker 4: marry your trust in Jeff peterson stance with what's going
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  Speaker 4: on right now? Bone, I will trust that he's not
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  Speaker 4: just gonna make the move for the sake of making
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  Speaker 4: the move, that he will get something deemed as equal
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  Speaker 4: back and not just a bunch of pieces that you
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  Speaker 4: try to fit together. Or will we p brought up
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  Speaker 4: a great point back to us in a group chat.
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  Speaker 4: We have not mentioned today the fact that Will Melow's
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  Speaker 4: name is now out there and trade talks. What's the
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  Speaker 4: relationship like if he doesn't get traded. We've heard a
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  Speaker 4: lot about Jaylen Brown and Boston. He's still there is
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  Speaker 4: Mellow has been content and happy. If you have it
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  Speaker 4: out there that Mellows on the trade block and you
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  Speaker 4: don't move them, how does that affect the relationship and
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  Speaker 4: his happiness going forward?
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  Speaker 6: Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you and you will be concerned. You could be
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  Speaker 4: on the verge of upsetting him because his guy is
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  Speaker 4: Miles Bridges, and you could be on the verge of
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  Speaker 4: trading him or not re signing him next year or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So you have that going on.
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  Speaker 4: I will say this, I don't see Lamello as one
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  Speaker 4: of those dudes to get furious and angry. Almost seems
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  Speaker 4: like anything that happens to that man, he's just kind
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  Speaker 4: of like, you know, just kind of go.
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  Speaker 2: With the flow. Just I don't think his father is
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  Speaker 2: gonna say much.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, didn't treat Jello right or Melo right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: We first Jello. Now this that's an interesting point.
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  Speaker 4: This texter says, I wonder if this is being done
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  Speaker 4: because LaMelo wants out anyway. The reporters that have tweeted
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  Speaker 4: about this insist that he wants to be here, that
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  Speaker 4: he is very fired up about the direction of this team.
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  Speaker 4: He wants to be here. We did have who said
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  Speaker 4: it earlier to us. They thought was it Stephen Gilesmie
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  Speaker 4: speculating could this have come from Lamello's camp because he
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  Speaker 4: couldn't understand why the Hornets would want.
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  Speaker 2: To initiate this.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, his pops could say anything, but I almost feel
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  Speaker 5: like he is. His dad's just been yapping in the wind.
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  Speaker 5: It never feels like LaMelo ever feels the way his
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  Speaker 5: dad does. Yeah, you know, so I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? Though?
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  Speaker 4: This was not what we were expecting. We were expecting, like, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: are we going to revisit some bonus talks. I was
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: going to revisit for the eighty nine time trying to
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: get Miles Turner bone. I know you're excited about that,
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  Speaker 4: Like we were going to talk about what to do
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: with our fifteen million dollar mid level exception, how to
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: get Kobe White and not let him go to Detroit,
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  Speaker 4: Like I thought those were the things that were going on.
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  Speaker 4: So this thing has immediately flummes me, Man.
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  Speaker 5: Would any of the team that just drafted I know
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  Speaker 5: Atlanta is not in the mix because of the division,
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  Speaker 5: but would any of the teams that just drafted one
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  Speaker 5: of the guards move off of the guard for Melow?
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  Speaker 5: Like would the Clippers who Levars wanted him to play for?
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  Speaker 5: Would they would they move off Woggler? Or do you
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  Speaker 5: think that they just wouldn't do that? I do love
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  Speaker 5: me some Keith Woggler. I know that sacrament love a
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  Speaker 5: coff and Flemings in Atlanta, But would would they move
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  Speaker 5: woggler from mellow or is that just me with thinking
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  Speaker 5: pie in the sky. That's interesting. That's interesting. That is
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  Speaker 5: at least make more sense. A guy Di's a franchise gual.
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  Speaker 5: That would be a guy I say, all right, money,
• 10:35
  Speaker 5: but it would have to be matched up, sally. Would
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  Speaker 5: you have to take like somewhat big. I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: we would have to, but maybe it's expiring. Maybe get
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  Speaker 5: someone expired. That's that's one idea where I'm like, if
• 10:44
  Speaker 5: they could get a franchise guard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's big too, he's six five sixty six too. Man,
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: who knows.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they try to get him in the draft, the
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  Speaker 5: trade in the draft, and they wouldn't move off that spot.
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  Speaker 4: Seven oh four number says. It's simple, y'all. They saw
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  Speaker 4: that Kobe White also makes this offense tick, makes this
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: offense efficient. They saw for the first time that we
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: can play offensive basketball well without LaMelo Ball, and Kobe
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  Speaker 4: White will be about twenty million dollars cheaper he would be.
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  Speaker 4: And you could, like, if you got something legit back
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  Speaker 4: for LaMelo, you could make a case that Kobe Brandon
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  Speaker 4: con that you could still have a good team. But
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  Speaker 4: this stuff that we're like they're talking about us getting back.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't you know what I mean? Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 4: where's the star Power guy back?
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  Speaker 2: Anyway?
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  Speaker 4: We take a phone call here, Yeah, we have a
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  Speaker 4: couple guys to take you. Let's get a little pulse
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  Speaker 4: of Hornet's Nation in here. We want to get your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: I'll read more of your text as well. How does
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  Speaker 4: this strike you? Does it make any sense? And for
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  Speaker 4: those of you that like us trust Jeff Peterson, how
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  Speaker 4: do you like I don't even really want Jeff Peterson
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  Speaker 4: having these conversations, like how do we marry our trust
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  Speaker 4: in him? Do we just say he won't take a
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  Speaker 4: bad deal? Is that how we get through this?
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  Speaker 6: All?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Seven oh four, five, seven oh nine, six ten, Let's
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  Speaker 4: go to Matt, who will start us off. Matt, how
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: do you feel about this LaMelo stuff?
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  Speaker 6: Hey, guys, good morning. I'm with you that I trust
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  Speaker 6: Peterson and I don't think he'll just give him away
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  Speaker 6: for a bunch of parts and draft picks. Uh, But
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  Speaker 6: I do worry. And maybe the question is why would
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  Speaker 6: they even take cold Like why would LaMelo, you know,
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  Speaker 6: not be on their you know us? Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 6: kind of go back to somebody brought it up earlier.
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  Speaker 6: Texture you know, they're not talking to LaMelo. This is
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  Speaker 6: a different regime now and maybe and I kind of
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  Speaker 6: feel like this he maybe Lamelow doesn't fit their vision
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  Speaker 6: of being the Hornet's DNA and they he's teaching them
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  Speaker 6: because they keep saying we need to get bigger, you know, stronger.
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  Speaker 6: LaMelo's twenty four. If he hadn't grown into his grown
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  Speaker 6: man body by now, he's not for two. He's had
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  Speaker 6: plenty of time, He's had plenty of time to rehab
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  Speaker 6: and lift weights and get stronger, and he has improved,
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  Speaker 6: you know some. But this is who Mellow is, and
• 13:02
  Speaker 6: maybe he just stops the kind of player they think,
• 13:05
  Speaker 6: you know, maybe they look at that blow out, what
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  Speaker 6: happened in the in the play is and you know
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  Speaker 6: he can't handle real physical playoffs type basketball.
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  Speaker 4: That's listen, you make up some interesting points. We're all
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  Speaker 4: trying to make sense of it right now. And I
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  Speaker 4: do I do wonder like did they kind of look
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  Speaker 4: at him as a bit of a knucklehead on and
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  Speaker 4: off the court and maybe not the guy we want
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  Speaker 4: to lead our team. My argument would be, did last
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  Speaker 4: year not win you over? But maybe you know, maybe
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  Speaker 4: they see now's the time to get rid of them.
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  Speaker 5: Do they view a ceiling with mellow as the as
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  Speaker 5: this as the one a I'm just trying to get
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  Speaker 5: in their mind. Do they view him as a guy
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  Speaker 5: that can get him too a certain level but ultimately
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  Speaker 5: not over that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't get why we have
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  Speaker 2: to do it now.
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  Speaker 4: Like if you get to the point bone where you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: this core is going as far as we as we can, right,
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  Speaker 4: we won fifty three games, but we get swept in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs. Like, I just don't feel like we're at
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  Speaker 4: the point where you say, Okay, this guy that the
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  Speaker 4: leader of our corps, Now, let's get him out of
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  Speaker 4: here before we see where this core can go, see
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: what they can do for a full season, see if
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: we can get a full healthy season, and how many
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: games they can win.
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  Speaker 2: I just I'm not looking for a move. This damn dramatic.
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  Speaker 5: There's a text line conspiracy theory that royal from the
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  Speaker 5: last hour was LeVar ball.
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  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: We'll work on that one. Let's investigate that one. This
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  Speaker 4: where was the text I just saw?
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  Speaker 5: We're getting so many there's a lot of people met
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  Speaker 5: that don't believe it's that that Jeff Peterson simply taking calls.
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  Speaker 5: But again, to reiterate, I don't believe when Chams puts
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  Speaker 5: a deadline on it, that that is simply taking a call.
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  Speaker 5: The term twenty four to forty hours means they progressed
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  Speaker 5: enough after that call, so where he feels like the
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  Speaker 5: line is coming up.
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  Speaker 4: So what JJ says, this is a total overreaction. Man, newsflash,
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  Speaker 4: Jeff picks up the phone when called, a good GM,
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  Speaker 4: takes every call. I but do you think Jeff Peterson
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  Speaker 4: is gonna get swindled? Because I don't, right Like, I
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  Speaker 4: find it hard hard to swindle.
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  Speaker 5: I find it hard to believe that he's got to
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  Speaker 5: buy fitting on a dating app, Sorry about that, fiddy hopefully,
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  Speaker 5: or on a.
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  Speaker 4: Morning show pity hashtag Brookie cookie man Ty Marlow over there, catfish.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man anyway, Marlow tew. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still working through that right there. But uh, I
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  Speaker 4: just that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to marry my
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: trust in Jeff Peterson. If this was Rich Choe, if
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: this was Michael Jordan involved, I could see us doing
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: something dumb it's hard to believe trader Jeff getting beat
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: down on a trade. So it's like I'm trying to
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: make some sense of it. But yeah, I don't. You know,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: how can you not be worried at least when you
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: see here things like Sean's timeline.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: All right, let's go. Let's get on whether man Mark
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: came in by the way, well, no, is he mad? Aga?
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: He hopes that it rains at Jeff Peterson's house today,
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: and only Jeff Peterson's house.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get one more call in here. Oh,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: you know this man's got to have an opinion.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Game cock. Kevin is up next, Kevin, how is this
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: news hitting you? Man?
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: Well? Well, first of all, happy summer to y'all guys.
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: I ain't y'all.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you out.
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: Oh go ahead, Yah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know. I
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: love y'all boys. I listen, man, but I ain't as
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: engaged as I used to be. But I listen. You know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: you know, you know I'm here, Matt, come on this,
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: so check it out. I got real quick. Stop saying
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: what are we doing? We've not done anything yet, like
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: you've that's been your narrative the entire time. Like when
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: you would kind of read what the potential trades were
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: for Melow, you'd be like, well, what are we doing?
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: It's like we've not done anything.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Okay things here?
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: Well, well okay, I don't think we're gonna make a
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: mistake with Mellow, bro I don't. I don't see that happening. Now.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: There are a couple of things we need to look
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: at here. Number One, with Mellow, the best we've done
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: is to play in and we've never gotten out of
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: the play in stage. And I get it, there's been injuries.
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: Even last season. If them boys wasn't endured up front,
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: I think we would have probably been in the top six.
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: So yeah, do I want to run it back? Absolutely?
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: Trade deadline is in the middle of the season. Let's
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: kind of see how things go and let's do it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: Then you're right about why now we don't need to
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: do anything. Now, let's go ahead and run this thing
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: back as of right now. But you also got to
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: look at some other things. Guess what Guy's expansion is coming.
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: You'll only be able to protect your top eight. We
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: need to have a real solid top eight before we
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: start talking about trading people. You know what I'm saying
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: like in the next year or two there are gonna
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: be two teams, one in Seattle one in Vegas. People
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: not even thinking about that. We gotta think about the future. Nets,
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: let's not just think about right now. So, in my opinion,
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: is their chance that if we do keep Mellow for
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: the next three years, will he re sign with us?
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: That's another question you gotta answer, Mac, you know what
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, Like, at some point, this guy gonna probably
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: want to win a championship. Maybe not, Maybe he just
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: want to ride his go cart on the top of
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: the roof in Charlotte and ride Lambeau's down the street
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: and get people. But at the end of the day,
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: we have to figure this stuff out.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: I do not want to trade him for scraps. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: don't think that's gonna happen. If we do trade him
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: for scraps, that's gonna be a big issue on this
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: ownership and on this leadership. I do not think that's
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: gonna happen. So I just say, everybody, Rea, let's just
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: see what happened and we'll take it from there.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I like a great call man. That's good trying to
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: preach relax today on this show. Also yeah, well did
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: you see what? And he's right, like, I don't know
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: why am I saying? What are we doing when you
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: just throw in the trade. Just a little nervous, Just
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: a little nervous. I'm okay. But we did get accused
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: boned by multiple textures of committing a crime that it
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: will now forever be known as a Weatherman mark. People say,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: we are freaking out over something that hasn't happened yet either.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Someone said maxmn up on his H and S roof
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: all morning, saw LaMelo up there.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: In that go car.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I just I get what he's saying about. Hey,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: the three year contract and which which you know, is
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: he gonna resign? I just think you gotta let this
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: play out. Let this core breathe, let this core work.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe add to this core a little bit, but let's
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: see what they can do. At some point near the
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: end of Lamello, you know, then maybe you you know it,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: maybe you make a move. But just the timing's killing me.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Jeff Peterson hadn't done anything yet. You wonder
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: did they did?
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: They all for him for Simonis along the way, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: the Sacramento was not interested because they're trying to shed
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: salary a little bit. And also they had their eyes
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: on a cuff the whole time. So who knows, maybe
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: maybe there were talks nar along the way. For all
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: we know, that could have been part of that. They
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: talked a lot of the Sacramento. It didn't work out,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: but they had a lot of talk to Sacramento. They did,
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: and I just could see Sacramento saying, you know what,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: we were going to go this direction in the draft.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: We come back Terrence Oglesby, We'll try to make sense
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: of this for us. We were gonna talk draft picks,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: but a little something happened along the way. So we'll
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: talk to Terrence Oglesby of the fan Duel Sports Network
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: next on Sports Radio.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Z Oh my goodness.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Cham's Sharonia just reporting two minutes ago on Twitter that
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: the Hornets have traded Lamello and Josh Green to the
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Timberwolves for Nas Reid, a twenty thirty three unprotected first
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: round pick, three first round picks swaps, and three second
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: round picks. I don't know what to say. Where's the rest.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: We didn't get hit, we didn't get faked, did we?
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Maybe Schalms is wrong for once.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: I am lost, not only on the conversation of the player,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: but I like nas Reid, but maybe not in this sense. Also,
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: the picks seven years away, it's all pick swaps. It
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: doesn't really match salary. Yeah, that's a lot of picks.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: By legit, where's the rest of Jeff Peters had got
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: all the second round picks that you didn't get this year.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: There's got to be another thing happening here. Also on
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: the minutes to front, they just signed Assumo for one
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: hundred and twelve million dollars. They have Edwards, They not
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: bringing Lamello. How does all that? How does the Sumu
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: and Mellow and all that work together?
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: There?
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: It doesn't really make it a lot idle. I'm lost,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: it says. You see Sean's second tweet. By the way,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: we're getting tarasugles be in the second who is also
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: welcome to the finding this out just like we are.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: But Sham's next tweet the Timberwolve send a hall to
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: the Hornets for a star stud, a new back court,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball. Charlotte didn't shop Ball in
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: the market, but listened and received multiple rich offers before
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: filling a significant need in the front court with Red. Ironically,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I will say this, nas Reed is a type of
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: stretch for that we've all met. I watched him specifically.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Nas rebutted so Tooby, it's your point guard, Brandon Kahan.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Nas Reed, you save a lot of salary. I don't.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: It's it's I don't know. This is hard to process, man,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: They give hard to process. They get fleeced by Alex Rodriguez.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Alright, Alex Rodrigez's tweets, Oh my goodness. Anyway, By the way,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: we still got at some point give away to these
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: monster jam four pack of tickets.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: We'll do that before we get out of there.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Out of it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: By the way, we told Terrence Ogles I want to
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: talk about honas at Christian Anderson.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Terres thought this was an easy draft breakdown, layup segment.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Are now he's got to react live to this.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Oh goodness.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I'm Terras Ogles b from the pre and post game
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: shows on the Hornets TV network. On Fandal, he joins
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: us here on the Mac and Bone show, t O,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: what do you think of the news of this trade?
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: Man, I'm just as shocked as you are. I'm sitting
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: here I love nas Reed. I think he's one of
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: the most underappreciated players in the NBA, and that is
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: an area where the Hornets need to get bigger. You
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: see the need for physicality and the play in tournament
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: this year. They need to get a little bit bigger.
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: They need to get a little bit more physical. Nas
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: Reed certainly fits that mold, and it also puts a
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: notice on like how much the Hornets appreciate Probably White,
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: and it also says how much faith they have in
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: Christian Anderson and guys. I saw Christian Anderson before he
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: was at Texas Tech, playing with the U nineteen World
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: Cup team in Switzerland, and he is really really stinking
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: good And it's just he is on the smaller side.
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: But really, what this does to me is it says
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: how much the Hornets love Kobe White and it looks
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: like they're going to hitch their wagon into the Kobe
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: White continent when Brandon Miller express because it doesn't have
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: the flash that LaMelo brings, but there's a whole lot
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: of substance there and you get bigger and more physical
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: with nas Reed. I like the pick swaps. Here's I'm scared,
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: I'll be honest with you, gentlemen. After my Mark Williams debacle,
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: I'm scared to death to say anything without absolutely going
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: through first. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: With Lamello and his injury history and how narrow he
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: has built, is this a cell high situation?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: Where he played seventy two games, this is a cell
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: high situation because he played extraordinary basketball this year. Did
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: they think, well, this is as good as it gets
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: for LaMelo? That's that's what my curiosity is. I have
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: talked to nobody in the front office there in Charlotte.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: This is me speculating the same way you guys are.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Is it a little weird to you on the Minnesota
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: front too? They just signed to SUMU and now they
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: go get mellow? Is that is that kind of a
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: weird fit for Melow? Does it make sense for him?
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: The whole on their side of the ordeal, Like they
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: just shipped out Julius Randall, They signed assuming to a
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: big year, a big, big deal, and then it's Lamello
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards is better dominating the ball.
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: LaMelo is better dominating the ball. Uh, it's a cure
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: excuse me. It's a curious ordeal. How do they manage that?
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: I don't know how that's going to go. But I'm
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: sitting here, I'm looking at all this stuff. Guys without
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: my without my rosters in front, go ahead together. It's
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: that's two that's two ball dominant guys on their end,
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: and assume it's kind of in the same mold. So
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: curious how that works.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: What do you say?
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, So here's been our stance all day, and we've
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: had all day. Right, the rumors started breaking last night,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: and credit to Sham's man, a lot of us were doubting,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: really this is something like this is gonna happen this quickly,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: and he said it last night, could happen in twenty
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: four or forty eight hours. And here we go. But
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of our stance on it had
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: been too that. Hey, this team is after so many
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: frustrating years and then the injury plague years. Man, they
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: really put it together, and it seemed like the new
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: health staff kind of found a way along with the
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: you know brass there, found a way to keep LaMelo healthy.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: LaMelo seemed to be you know, coachable, right. It seemed
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: like they were getting more defense out of them, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: it just we finally had momentum. So it's hard for
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: a Hornets fan to want to break that up, Like,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: how do you feel about doing this when it feels
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: like we have momentum?
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: You know, the only thing I can come back to
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: and again, I want to be absolutely clear that this
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: is me. So this is a cell high situation with
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: a mammoth contract with what LaMelo had, and it gives
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: you room to resign Kobe for what he wants. It
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: gives you room to operate a little bit thinking, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: Minnesota is not going to be able to those first
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: round pick swaps are going to be big because I
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: think the Hornets have faith that they're going to be
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: really tough. I really do. And you look at the
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: collective collective size, and I think, you know, LaMelo was,
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: He's narrowly built. He's tall, but he's narrowly built. That
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: type of frame. Typically it sends the message of well,
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: he could get hurt a little bit more. Guys, I'm
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: just as shocked as you are trying to figure this out.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: But at the same time, I do think, I do
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: think if you're Charlotte and you're looking to get out
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: of the LaMelo business, which would make sense if you're
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: trying to build something sustainable in the long term and
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: not worry about injury because he has shown the propensity
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: to get hurt. This is a cell high situation.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: If you're the Hornets, what do you think of the
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Hants draft pick? Just to go a different direction momentarily,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: what do you think of Hannis?
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Want me to keep this?
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: You guys want me to keep this ten seconds or less?
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: No.
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: I love Hannes Steinbach. He was the second best big
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: man at you nineteen Worlds in Switzerland. He goes up
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: to Washington and he gets a forgot about a little
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: bit because the Pacific Northwestern College Basketball. Do they like it? Yeah?
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: Do they love it? I would say no. I will
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: say this. I've heard comparisons to Steven Adams. He's a
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: better passer than that. I don't think he's quite as
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: big as Stephen Adams, but he really rebounds, he's tough,
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: He's got a lot of skill. So is he an
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: absolute upgrade at the five spot? They've drafted really well.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: I do think he's better offensively than Ryan Kulkbrenner, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: he's put together wider than Caulkbrenner. He's put together. He's
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: a lot heavier than Mussa Diabat. I think he's a
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: starting quality big man. But guy, there's part of me
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: that thinks the Hornets aren't finished with this whole ordeal.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I'm kind of taking that too.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Like, that's a lot of picks they've collect They already
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: had a lot of picks.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Now they've gotten more. They've got a lot more.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Now you bring in like Bridges as could go right
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: now because you brought in nas Reed, he's your starting four.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Drafted in Steinbacher, so Bridges in another trade at some point.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I just I don't know, man, I hope there's more
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: to come, to be honest with you, all right, t O,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Let's talk more about Anderson, because all of a sudden,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: now yesterday, at this time, I was hoping we re
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: signed Kobe, we have Lamello, and Anderson can ease into
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: things right as kind of the third ball handler. Now,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: like you said, this very well might show, Hey, we
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: we love the way our offense played when Kobe was
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: on the court.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: We can save money and he's our one. We drafted Anderson.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: They were probably thinking He's ready to be our two
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: on the offensive end. I love Anderson. The shooting's ridiculous,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: the pick and roll, the savviness of the way he
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: runs a pick and roll is really cool. But you
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: mentioned the size, like is he a target on defense? Like,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: what do you think about the pros and cons of
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Christian Anderson?
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: He's much better than kJ Simpsons. Okay, we got that
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: and that, so that's good news. You know, he played
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: on the German national team with Hannes Steinbach, so there's
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: some connection there and they were really good and pick
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: and roll together. The other portion of that is, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: he is six two, but he's got six six six
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: seven wings fans, so he's a little bit longer than
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: given credit for. He's had some big rebounding moments during
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: the course of the season last year. He competes at
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: a really high level, and he could very well be
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: the best shooter in this year's draft. So that's kind
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: of where I'm at with him. I've always been a
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: big fan of his game. There's a certain toughness about him.
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: He's played with the senior national teams and that Germany
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: doesn't just do that, so you have to have some
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: game about you. I'm I think he could come in
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: and play minutes right away. And I don't think they're
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: going to be like figure it out, They're going to
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: come in and bust a couple shit. So, like I said, though,
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: do I have faith he could play immediately?
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: This is a strong draft class. What was he picked
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: at eighteen? Like you, there's quality players at eighteen. Now,
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: I think he's a guy that can come in and
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: play minutes immediately, and he's going to be able to
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: knock down shots for you quickly.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: We're talking to Terrence oglesby FanDuel Sports Network here on
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: the Mack and Bone Show. Looking up right now, it's surreal.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: All the TVs right now too, are all about the Hornets,
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: trading mellow balls, the Timberwolves. We came in to day
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Terrence thinking, yeah, this will be a pretty easy show.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: As of last night, this will be an easy show.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: No Hornets second rounders. Our biggest concern this morning was
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: why did Henry Vasar drop solo in the draft for
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: the Heels? And now look at us, Oh my god,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: this is crazy. I appreciate you reacting on the fly.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody said, Teo's the designator reactor to trades in town.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Remember Mark to even made that same joke sir.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Before thee.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh hey, I would bone brought up
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: the Vassar situation and also Isaiah Evans in I just
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: want to ask you that, because you're at college basketball,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: nut and you cover it so much as well field
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: A sixty eight ESPN and elsewhere, what do you think
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: when you see in the nil era where Isaiah Evans,
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: whether at Duke or somewhere else, theysare Carolina somewhere else.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: It sounds like Carolina. He could have got five million
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: plus to play. It's just maybe this is the maybe
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I'm showing my age and I feel like I want
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: to act like their dads. But it kills me that
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: some of these guys they take the risk, will we
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: get a first round guaranteed deal, and then they don't.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Why not stay in school, make millions and keep working
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: on your game. Does it hit you the same way.
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: Or no.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: As a guy who declared early. Yeah, it hurts me
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: for them even more because you know, you get bad
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: advice and happened to me. You know, I left after
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: my sophomore season thinking I'd go over to Europe and
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: then come back and I end up going over there
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: and getting lost, and the chance for development is is
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: fine over there, but it wasn't what it could have
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: been in college. So I say all that to say this,
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: now that they have money, now that they are making
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: extraordinary amounts of money, five million dollars, I think. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: think the pick is like number sixteen in order to like,
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: if you have to beat five million dollars, you have
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: to go in the top sixteen or something like that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: Like I'm not sure what they starts thinking you can
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: get one track minded, which is what I did. I
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: was like, I have to make it. I have to go.
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: I have to go. But it comes to a point
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: where somebody has to pull you back and be like,
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: hey man, college life isn't that bad. It's not like
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: your classes are all that hard. Like go go back
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: to school, collect checks, and then we'll see how it
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: all works.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Man, all right, and that's that's good. Yeah, I forgot
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: all about your situation. That was a pretty good, honest
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: answer there.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: And you're saying Ryan Windhorst loves the trade on get
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: up right now for the hornets?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, Like I said to me, I just want
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: to make sure the trade goes through, but it's to me,
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: I love the trade because it's a so high situation.
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: You get draft picks involved, and I think nas Reed
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: is I have a lot of respect for what he
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: does and he deserves to be a starter.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: He's a winning player, man, and we have missed that
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: profile right of the stretch. Four miles, very inconsistent shooting
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: from outside. He's a true four size wise. All right, brother, hey,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: we appreciate you. We did not have a crystal ball
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: and know that you would be on here live reacting
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: to the trade. You did an amazing job of it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: My friend, have a great summer and thanks for coming on.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you absolutely.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Guys, all right, Terah Soclesby did not know what he
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: signed up for there, but that was pretty good one
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: of us candid Live response. It's just hard for me
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: to get where he is saying now by the end
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: of the conversation, now he's like, yeah, I like the trade.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: I like nas Reed too, is a piece we would
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: type of peace bone that we would ah add to
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: an improving core.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I don't. And then the.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Three pick swaps, so you're not getting extra picks on
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: those years, you're just raging picks, Like, what's the point
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: of that?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I need picks outright? Mac?
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: How about Mark? How about Mark Stein's wording here on
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: the tree? I love this. The Hornets have successfully pride
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: nas Read away from the Wolves. Oh well, that's great,
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: is that the headline? And God, I've chained the Hornets
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: will now to try to retain Kobe White and fend
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: off the Pistons. That's our next warry. Here the multiple
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: textures saying what good is the Oh? God, if you
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: lose Kobe White two, we're gonna have a freaking breakdown.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: We've already had a text say I'm canceling. I can't
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: just cancel my season, diggts.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: So the Hornets are gonna have to get out there
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: with their message on this abruptly.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, multiple, we find that we finally fleece the Wolves
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: for nas Reed. There we go, Mark, Yeah, we're winners, baby.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Multiple texters are saying, what good are the pick swaps?
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: If they're the better team and they're drafting lower than us,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: that's a that's point too. Maybe the Hornets think they're
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: gonna be a better team. I don't, I don't know.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It just makes me.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: It goes back to what a text sent in bon
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: In a while back, where the was this core it
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: was this group of Schlotkin, Lee and Peterson. Did they
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: just all not think LaMelo was really their flavor? And
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: they were trying to evaluate him, Like Teo said, they
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: saw a chance where now's the time to trade him.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: He was actually healthy. But again, wouldn't you think we'd
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: get more than this?
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: It happened so fast it makes you wonder what really
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: went on. It happened quickly, and you look at it
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: and say, was that the best offer? Did they they
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: moved so quickly on this one? Was that the best offer?
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: And then you can, in hidsight mac man, if they
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: could have done something in the draft and move, Not
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: that I don't like what they drafted, but man, if
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: you're wanting to if you're wanting the point guard and
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: it wasn't Kobe White, there were plenty of guys there.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Maybe guys weren't willing to trade out of those spots,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: but man, that was a heavy point guard draft to
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: replace Mellow and it just went on and we weren't
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: a part of that. I would have loved I would
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: have loved the Wagglayer if they could have got him
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: in this whole thing.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Gonster Is said, Now, that'd be too good, that would
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: make too much sense. Gonster is saying, apparently we get
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: a forty two million dollar trade exception, largest in league history. Yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: there's a lot we got to dig up here. We're
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: trying to react to it live on the air. But
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: my god, LaMelo ball traded to the Ward forty two million.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: My word, the salaries are ridiculously different here.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, Like, if it's.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Just nas Reed, I don't know what he makes, Bone,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: but LaMelo makes forty five, forty six, forty three something
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: in that neighborhood, Green makes what around fifteen? Yeah, like
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: that's a huge salary difference. Man os Reed has a
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: bigger deal than you think. By the way, he's on
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: a five year, one twenty five, so he's twenty five
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: million a year. Yes, okay, trying to see when it started.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: But yea, all right, let's do this real quick. Here's
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: what we're gonna do. We gotta do this giveaway for
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: we've got four years left on his zeal. Man got
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: twenty three, twenty five, twenty six, twenty eight. We got
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: to do this giveaway very fast here, Bone, all I
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: can think of is Charlotte. We're shook right now, let's
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: give you a price. So Monster Jam is coming up
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: at Spectrum Center July eighteenth and nineteen eighth.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Absolute blast.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Take the family, and right now we have a family
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: four pack of tickets that you can win by texting
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: in gravedigger. Text in gravedigger right now, one word fitty.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: We're making it one word. It's two two between two
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: words grave digger. Two words. Text it into seven O
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: four five seven nine. Oh my god, you couldn't hear
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: me over that. We finally found a way bone to
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: where people can't hear me scerymouth, Holy hell, y'all. You
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: need to weaponize that fitty anyway. Seven O four five
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: seven oh nine six And there's the Monster Jam. Roar
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: right now, text us. We will do a drawing, will
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: pick a winner, and somebody will get to enjoy Monster
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Jam and forget about LaMelo Ball being traded.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Someone asks how long until LeVar is trying to get
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: all the the Ball family members in Minnesota?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: God, my road trip to Minnesota. I'm shook. Man.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: All right, we come back. We reevaluate our not our lives.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: That seems a little strong. We reevaluate the Hornets trade.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: We get you said for the wrap up, and I
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: gotta tell you back. I'm sorry to wear down the
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: one I need an IV Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: The text line now demanding Steph Curry be acquired and
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: brought home.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: The rest of you are freaking out valuing to get
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: rid of your tickets. Wes Bryant's promo was cut before
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: any of this news was out, so he's telling everybody
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: We're gonna be thrilling and chilling on a Thursday. Wes,
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think y'all gonna be chilling today, baby, I
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: think there's gonna be ranting and raven today. Oh my goodness, man,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Lamello ball traded. Sham's had to report first to Minnesota,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Josh Green and LaMelo.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: We give up two players and we only get one back.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: We get nas reed back and.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Brought great point. Though, what does this mean for Sibonis?
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Because could you add him if you ended up with
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: the front line, because I'm assuming Bridges is not a
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: part of this. When you Noa's Read's got a pretty
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: hefty contract for who he is and then you drafted
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: that spot. Miles Bridges won't be a part of this.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: But if your perimeter was Kobe White, you gotta sign him.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: But Kobe White, con and Miller, and your front line
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: was nas and Sabonis, and then you had a bunch
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: of young guys on the bad.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: This is not going to be terrible. This is not
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: going back to the Bobby.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: That would be a hell of an offensive front line
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: because Nod's constructed and some bonus canpac it like that's
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: not the end of the world.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: But and you just saved about thirty five million dollars,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: so now you've got more money to.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Absorbs Sibonis, and then that involves signing Kobe White. But
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: there are pass here to be a really good basketball
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: We're not going back to the to the dark years.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: I don't think I agree with t O. We're not done.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: I agree with t O, We're not done. But man,
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: this is just this trail of the metal. Oh and
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: I wanted to throw in it's it's I was trying
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: to read off bone the term. It's LaMelo and Josh
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Green to the Timberwolves for Nas Reed, a twenty thirty
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: three unprotected first round pick in seven years, three first
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: round picks swaps, so we just exchanged picks in twenty eight,
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: twenty nine, and thirty and the three second round picks.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: It's just, man, I just feel I can't help feeling
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: like MIKEL Bridges got five first round picks outright.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, we can't help feeling like we.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Didn't get I like nas a lot, but like it
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: just feels like we didn't get much back.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Like they must have wanted have gone. I know there's
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: the shock of how quick this happened. I am too,
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: but I do think, like t O said, nas Reed does.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: He's not mellow, but there is a toughness in a
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: physical like nas Reed. I've always been a fan of
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: nos Reed. Did I want to get him for mellow now?
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: I never thought that. But nas Reed is not just
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: a throw and he he's a very productive fore man
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: for this team.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: O Hornets fans wanted him.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: His name has come up routinely when we have talked
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: about upgrading at the floor and a guy that can
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: stretch the floor of the floor. His name comes up
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: all the time. Never did we imagine LaMelo Ball would
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: be traded and how do you get only one outright
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: new first round pick.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Well, the problem is that it goes back to what
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: we said. Remember, they don't have a lot of their.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Picks, but but but they have the picks they can
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: swap with us.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, how are those first round swaps? Moan?
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: How are they not out outright first round picks or
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: at least another first round pick? Like it's crazy and
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: it makes you wonder what the brass really thought about
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: LaMelo because they all inherited him from ownership on down.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: So so Schlock and our boys Schnaul and Plotkin are
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: doing a charity.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Like media ga right right, No, that's a question, right, and.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: This the case, But they can't talk about anything other
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: than what is it some new kit What is it?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: What did y'all tell me during to bru? Was it
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: a new kitchen, the new kitchen partnership or something? What
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: is this? That is correct?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Clearly they can't talk about because it's not it's not official.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't think until the new league year type thing.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: But like what media wants to sit there and hear
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: that kind of stuff in the middle of this You
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: just your franchise player.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't talk about it yet, so I guess
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: that's that's part of it. It's almost like, should you
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: do the held the events? I don't even know, man,
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: I don't even freaking know, all right, and I just
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: work here, man, I don't freaking know. We got a
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: New York butcher Shop cut of the day here, right, Yeah,
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: this will make you laugh at least. This is a
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: tremendous This is on with the part of my take.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Boys.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Uh Wyndham Clark, fresh off winning the US Open. They
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: bring up an old tweet of him hating on Baker Mayfield.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Listen to this. This is tremendous. You did tweet I.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Hate Baker Mayfield, and I was just curious if you
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: still feel that way. Maybe your thoughts on that, Maybe
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you're that hating your heart's gonna weary where you're at
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to decide if I should tell the story.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, screw it. I don't care. People already
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: hate me, so uh no, it's not that bad. My
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: PR team's here.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Listen, your PR team's on the hot seat because we're
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: coming up with ideas they never thought of.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: No, they didn't. They brought me for everything. They prap
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: me for this one. My girlfriend at the time cheated
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: on me with Baker. Make Oh that's a fair tweet. Okay, Yeah,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: here's what I want to say as i've as I
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: have come to like, I'm actually a Baker fan now
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I think he's a homie. I you know, that's your
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: initial response, screw that guy, but really screwed it, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: your girlfriend? Yeah, but yeah, so I'm I'm a Baker
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: fan now.
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: But you know that's where it came from.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: That's a totally we were trying to figure it out.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: We're like, oh, well, Oklahoma State, there's natural hate there. No,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: this is uh, that's a totally fair tweet. This is
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: this is personal.
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: I pull back.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: This is a bro moment for us to be like, oh, bro,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't know my bad she never told me, and I'm.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Like, I's all good, we're homies. Let's play golf. Yes,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: where this comes from.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: They thought it was the Oklahoma State Oklahoma tie and
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: apparently not.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Were they both at Oklahoma and Oklahoma State the same time? Yes, okay,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: so that would track that there could be a woman
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: in Oklahoma.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe then leave it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: To them that strike gold on an answer that goes viral, right,
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I got score one for Boomer Sooner. Boomer Sooner beat
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: him on the field all the time, and did I
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: won this one? Oh my, I need a Baker response.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I need a Baker response saying my bad, bro, I
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: didn't know. Let's play golf. I need that weather man.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Mark Mack has us back to twenty wins again.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: So there we go.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: If Mark could be back at Whopper's courtroom. Uh.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Richie points out that nos Rey's older than a lot
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: of the core of the team. Mac not that much.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: He's twenty six years old. What an ancient decaying player read.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: A little bit older, but not a whole lot there. Man,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah they still have somebody, says Mack. They have three
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: first round picks next year to trade. There's still a
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: big move for a star player. Yeah, I mean you
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: to declare us dead here moving forward, But I wasn't
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: expecting this off last year. Like, it's gonna take some
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: time for us to process this.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Man, process away all day with the boys here at WFNZ, Colin,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: then Wes and Walker and then Kyle bay Man keep
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: it right here, process away.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: We all will be doing that together.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: It's some one said thoughts in prayers all the Minnesota
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: in shirts agents.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Oh my guy, at least that's a new twist on
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: the joke, because right now, Bone, we have about twenty
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: since the trade was reported twenty minutes ago, twenty texts
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I would guess, saying the streets are safer now in Charles,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: and one.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Said mellow drove himself to the airport and drove right
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: to the gate.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Oh man, all right, anyway, we're out of here, y'all.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Colin Haggard takes the baton from here as we try
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: to figure out what to make of the LaMelo ball
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: trade to Minnesota.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Colin coming up next,