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We Hang Out at Car Week · That Car Show

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  First thing we do when we get to the quail this year is rush the
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  roof booth to see what kind of great gift they've got to give
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  us. Yeah, yeah.
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  And if they've got underpants, Ryan?
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  I want some roof undies. I swear to God I do.
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  I would rock those things on the outside.
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  This week on that car show, it's our Car Week special and we talk
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  about some of the experiences we're looking forward to over
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  the next week or so. It's a whole week of events
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  packed into seven days. We're slightly worried because
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  Ryan has only ordered 6 pairs of underpants.
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  We reveal an exclusive from Ford in advance of their
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  announcements at Car Week. We can officially announce on
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  this channel that their new head of naming is a Gentleman Called
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  Nomenclature. And then in honor of our
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  sponsorship that we have with Sheffield Watches, we share some
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  stories about some of the watches that mean things to us.
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  All that and a whole lot more on this week's That Car Show.
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  Hello, welcome to this week's That Car Show.
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  You'll notice from those watching on video, we don't have
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  Lindsay with us this week. She's taking a week off, getting
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  ready for Car Week, obviously. Ryan and Lindsay, do you come
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  off the back of two excellent shows?
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  Congratulations. Thank you very much.
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  I mean thank you, thank you both I think do wholly to our guests,
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  Johnny Lieberman and Art Cervantes, thank you both.
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  Those I think were two of our best shows at least numbers wise
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  to date. So thank you for all those of
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  you who are just tuning in for the first time and let's keep it
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  going. So don't forget to like rate
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  review and most importantly comment too moving forward.
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  So thank you. Exactly.
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  And and this week, so in Lindsay's absence, we're joined
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  with Michael. Hey, Michael.
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  Good afternoon, gentlemen. And your best overalls I see.
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  Yes, comfy, highly recommended. I I don't want to start a
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  fashion trend and overalls are the way to go.
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  Well, you've got all the signifiers of a man who works on
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  his cars for real. You've got the hood open there.
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  You're in the garage. If you know, do you have grease
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  on on your? Hands or anything, it's all
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  fake. If I pinned you around,
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  everything looks too spotless. All my tool boxes are not nicked
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  up. The tools are way too shiny.
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  It's all you know, It's all just a backdrop.
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  Right. So for those listening to the
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  podcast, Michael is wearing a set of dungarees, very fetching
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  dungarees, may I say, and a white T-shirt.
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  And he's on a break from working on a car.
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  What Car is that behind you? That is a 92 Chevy Silverado,
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  nice old pickup truck or I I don't know if it's old.
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  What what constitutes as old anymore?
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  I don't really know, but that doesn't that doesn't feel old to
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  me, but I think according to everybody else would be old.
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  No, yeah, 92 was just 15 years ago, so.
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  Right, and we're all just 23. That's right, that's right.
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  Let's keep our youth alive. So gang, what have we been up
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  to? Ryan, no more press cars for you
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  for the minute, is that right? No more press cars.
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  I am spending my week prepping for car week.
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  You want to make sure you get to everything.
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  You want to make sure that you're you know, you're you're
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  properly attired. You want to make sure that you
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  know you're checking off all the boxes.
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  So I'm sure once we get there will be amazing, but I at least
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  stress a ton the week going into car week.
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  Do you guys, are you guys just cool like that and slide right
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  into it? Yeah, well, you're your
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  schedule. Michael, I want you to wear
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  those dungarees. I absolutely will.
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  I have 3 pairs. So, so we will, we will.
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  And then they're all different colors.
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  I mean, this is not what people tuned in to listen about.
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  But yes, right. By the way, you know, we should
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  bring that up because if you see any of us at Car Week, please
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  reach out. Lindsay included.
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  She'll be there. You know, we got stickers.
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  We would love to meet you, but I will be Dan.
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  Now. I'm going to take that
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  challenge. I will be wearing overalls.
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  There we go. If you see Michael in overalls,
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  you'll have stickers and a hug for you.
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  Yeah, why not? Why not?
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  This This may be super random, but do either of you folks buy
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  new clothes the week before car week?
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  And that includes underpants? Like I've been to Amazon and
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  underpants but like is that just me?
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  No, I bought, I totally bought Calvin Klein 6 pack of
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  underpants. I'm good for the whole of car
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  week. I wasn't saying the whole year.
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  I thought you were going to sell.
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  So that was the one time it was the IT was the Prime Day special
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  for the year. Yeah, Have you priced Calvin
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  Klein lately? Like everything else it's it's
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  not cheap so 6 pairs is what I can afford.
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  And you're there for seven days, is that right?
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  Right. Yeah, yeah, I was about to say
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  don't do the math. I think.
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  One of those days I'm going to be freaking free and easy.
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  Guess which one? Hey Dan.
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  Dan, you and I are driving around car week together.
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  Lindsay, because she's not here, has to ride with Ryan now.
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  There we go. Yeah.
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  Is there a phrase that's something on the lines of going
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  commando at Pebble Beach? Yeah, that is the title of this
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  show. So, Car Week, what are we most
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  looking forward to? Any memories from last year?
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  I guess it's probably a good start.
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  I had the opportunity to do the the Thursday tour in a GT DB4
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  GT. What is his car?
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  What is Terry? 4 GT.
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  But it's there's a nomenclature after it.
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  Yeah, anyway it. Was very special.
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  Campaign by some very famous people, yeah.
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  Yeah, it's a true race car and, and honestly one of the best
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  driving cars and to be in the passenger seat of that car
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  through the Tour, which was, you know, honest to God, life, you
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  know, bucket list, didn't even know it was on my bucket list.
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  But I do encourage people, if you're up there, go up there
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  Thursday morning 'cause the Tour starts at whatever, 6630.
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  Everything's accessible, The people are accessible, the cars
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  are accessible. They want to talk, you know,
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  people want to talk. It's kind of the start of the
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  event in many respects. So people are, you know, excited
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  and a lot of energy and you just get to see a lot of really great
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  stuff. So even if you don't participate
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  in the tour, I want to drive out to one of the remote spots and
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  watch it drive by. You know, if you're willing to,
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  if you're an early bird. I can't, I can't recommend it
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  enough because of the accessibility and just the
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  friendliness of everyone there. And that's actually you go to
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  Pebble Beach, just so people are aware.
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  Correct. You go to the top of the hill
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  right next to where a lot of the pavilions are, is, is, I don't
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  even know the name of the street that well, but they line them up
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  on one of the public streets there.
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  Next to that is the paddock, frankly, where a lot of the
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  trailers and, and, and transports are.
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  So a lot of these things are just pulling, being pulled off
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  the transport for the for the first time.
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  That's where I personally got to experience the 20 minute startup
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  of a Valkyrie that requires 3 bodies and climbing in and out
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  of this thing multiple times. And, and it wasn't the owner
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  doing it was Aston Martin folks. So, you know, if you get to see
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  that kind of, you know, that kind of thing.
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  It's nice. Ryan, any memories from last
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  year if you? Had yeah so many I'm still
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  getting over my hangover from the zinger area 21 party I see
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  that's on the list again for this year but you know the
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  Porsche party was a ton of fun that's that's when I'm not going
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  to miss this year you know the quail is always great right got
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  to love the I want to call it the free food and drink but.
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  Those tickets ain't free. Looking forward to Pebble, of
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  course. And, and, and gosh, motor Lux is
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  going to be good. There's the Monterey Motorsports
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  Festival, there's Concourse Italiano and of course Radwood.
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  Can't miss Radwood. That's that's going to be great
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  as as well. I mean, everything is, is
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  awesome, right? It's just a week of like just
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  overload and and I've got clean underwear going in so I'm
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  feeling good. Well, at least for half of it,
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  yeah. Yeah, no, it's, it's definitely
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  a fun week. And the thing for me is you
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  never know what's going to happen.
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  So you've got your plan, but something will happen.
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  Like I think last year was it, wasn't it that the house at the
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  top of the quail you got invited to to see a a very nice private
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  car collection, Ryan? Yeah, that, you know, and I
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  think we've let the cat out of the bag.
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  That was Chip Connor's place and one of the world's best car
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  collections. And, you know, I'm hoping,
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  hoping something like that will happen again this year.
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  I mean, it's just that's it's stuff like that happens during
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  car week. It's just magical, so.
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  Very, very special, very special auctions are a big part of Car
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  week and I know I set you folks a bit of a challenge to go and
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  investigate and and come back with two cars that money no
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  object you would buy. So, you know, what did you go
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  for and where were those cars? I'll start my first one is 1 you
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  guys, you guys maybe have not seen it was a a build called
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  Dirty Martini it is. Like.
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  The name, it is a kind of off green.
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  I believe it's an Impala. I could be wrong there, but it's
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  a custom. It's a custom like hot rod
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  build, you know, very, very retro and very rest O mod, you
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  know, 600 horsepower. It won all the, you know,
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  awards, etcetera, and you know, good guys, you know, hot rod of
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  the year, stuff like that. But I you know, it's a bit
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  shocking because it won all the awards and the owners parting
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  ways with it, which you know what, normally when you have a
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  car like that, you know, you kind of keep it and and and show
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  it around a bit, but the owner seems to be, for whatever
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  reason, parting with it. But that car just is just
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  stunning and and it it's driven over like I think, you know,
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  thousands of miles. So it it's a real runner.
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  It works. That one's probably less
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  appealing to our audience. I think the one that I don't I
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  would see if you either one of you had on your list.
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  There is a Volkswagen Beetle limo that's up for auction and
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  that thing I'd never personally seen one, but it's you know,
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  it's it's original in period. It's black.
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  It looks barely enough to stretch your legs out in, but I
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  think that'd be the best thing to be driven around.
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  I mean, you won't see another one in car week and and I think,
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  I think you'd be hard pressed anywhere in the at least in this
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  country to see another one. So I think no matter what it is,
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  I think that'd be the thing that I buy and I'm actually going to
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  watch that one really closely. I have no idea what something
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  like that would go for. And that's a 4 door beetle,
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  right? Is that right?
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  I will insert a picture. I'm I'm it's either A3 door or a
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  four door, but it's just got this, you know, much like, you
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  know, limos do that. It's just got this weird fat
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  center section. But it's not even that long in
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  comparison to what we think of as a limo or everything that
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  most of us took to prom or whatever it may be.
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  It's just, it's just long enough.
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  I wonder if that was that was kind of part of that era of like
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  these airport cars, I think they called them, right.
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  So before like the shuttle buses, you know?
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  Yeah, we shuttle buses. There was like this whole sub
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  industry of these of these companies that would extend
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  normalish cars, right? And I'm wondering if that sort
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  of came from that. I'll do some mystery and come
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  back on the, you know, do some reading on the history of it.
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  But there the shuttle cars you talk about, they used to do like
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  6 door and eight door versions of cars, which is interesting
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  when you're trying to. Coronado's and.
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  Yeah, exactly. So it's one thing to lengthen
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  it. You just keep 4 doors.
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  But when you add, you know, two or four sets of doors, I mean,
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  how many things could go wrong? And yet, you know, they're,
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  they're, they're amazing. They're they're so much fun.
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  If you're having trouble visualizing, we could put a
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  picture up on the screen too. But the movie, Catch Me If You
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  Can, I think there was one, maybe a Studebaker or something
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  that right factored into that movie.
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  Old checkers used to do that like less than checkers taxi
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  cabs and sit in their six door 8 door.
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  Not to make it more, but I think the only way you can get a six
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  door now is actually a funeral car.
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  The ones they you know, they make for for for unfortunate
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  events. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So those are my 2. I I want I want to rest O mod,
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  but I definitely, definitely want that limousine VW.
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  Yeah, I like that. And it looks like the limousine
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  BMW is going to be at RM Sotheby's.
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  I'm not sure. Michael, where do you know where
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  the other car will be? Bear with me, I got.
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  A tactic so we don't bid on it. You're not going to tell us
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  where it is. No, no, no, by the way, I would,
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  I would welcome, I would welcome the, I'd welcome the debate.
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  The healthy competition. Wait, wait, wait.
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  Michael's not the one we need to watch out for.
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  It's a, it's a bow, Tory, that we need to watch out.
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  For it's a 69 Beatle limousine by Troutman Barnes.
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  That must be the the people who converted it.
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  It's without reserve. It's it is at Sotheby's as well.
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  It's lot lot 1 number 144 and they think the pre estimate is
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  150 to 200 K. Wow, so if you hear the hammer
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  go down and say so to the man in the dungarees, you.
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  Know that's me. That's me.
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  Super Mario sound that goes off like yeah.
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  It's me. At that price, I'll be living in
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  it, so at least I'll have the extra space.
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  So I. Love it.
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  I love it. I love it, I love it.
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  Well, Ryan, did you go non Porsche?
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  One of them. Yeah.
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  So I am all of a sudden like couldn't go, couldn't break it.
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  You couldn't break it. You would.
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  No, no, and we've talked about this before.
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  I love old cars, you know, I love the stuff that runs in the
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  Colorado Grand. I would love like a 30s, you
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  know, Alfa Romeo or something like that.
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  But if it was actually my money, you know, what do I want in my
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  garage right now? There are a couple cars that
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  just, you know, I, I flagged multiples across different
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  options or different auctions rather.
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  One is the NSXR. All of a sudden now we've got a
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  couple friends shout out Tom Moran, he's one of them who have
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  really been talking these up lately.
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  I've never driven an NSX and I've certainly never driven the
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  Honda equivalent NSXR. They're supposed to just be
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  these special, special cars. Are they four or five times the,
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  you know, the value or worth four or five times the value?
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  I don't know. But there are a couple at
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  auction. There's a white one, I think a
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  black one at Car week this year, reserve or estimated price is
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  375 to 4 1/4. And that's a lot for an NSX.
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  But I don't know, I just, you know, we had our Cervantes on
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  from Radwood and he famously owned a silver one with Tay Wolf
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  on the license plate. As he, as he described it, he
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  sent me a picture. I'll post on Instagram here,
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  maybe on, you know, a little later this week.
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  But there's just something about those cars.
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  It's the way the, you know, the windshield drops so low, the
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  dashboard, the visibility, it's, it's, you know, all these things
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  that we don't necessarily have in cars in 2025.
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  So that's something that all of a sudden just really, really
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  appeals to me. You know, 1516 inch wheels or
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  whatever and all. It's just maybe they're
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  seventeens, I don't know, they look tiny, but you know, the
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  car, the proportions are right. And I think it would just be a
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  special driving experience that said right hand drive all of
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  them. So that would take some getting
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  used to. The other thing that just all of
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  a sudden just really appeals to me.
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  Also a relatively modern car, even a more modern car, and
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  that's the 991.2 Porsche Speedster.
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  And these are still, you know, going for several $100,000.
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  And I just think these things are the cat's meow is as they
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  say, they're just very, very appealing.
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  You get that GT3 motor. So many of the ones you see are,
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  you know, Sandra Vunch cars or, you know, are just, you know,
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  special builds, right, special colors, PTS and all that.
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  And I just, that's a car that just really appeals to me right
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  now. Maybe maybe I'm turning 50.
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  I want a convertible. I don't know.
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  But there are several for sale or several for auction at car
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  week this year. I'll be watching them hoping
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  they'll slowly come down overtime.
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  But you know, none of those 911 speedsters do come down.
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  They only go up and I think the reason I like these cars Harkins
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  back to one of my first Porsche experiences growing up when I
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  saw a 964 Speedster in the flesh and it just blew my mind.
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  And ever since that that time, I've always wanted a 9/11
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  Speedster. So those are my 2.
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  What about you, Dan? Interesting.
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  Well before we get to mine a couple of thoughts.
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  Have you guys seen the spy shots?
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  So at the moment there were some spy shots going around of a
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  992GT3 Cabriolet. Yeah, but the interesting thing
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  is the front wheel arch is off of an STI.
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  Think it's the new speedster. I think 100%, yeah.
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  This idea of a GT3 cabrio, that's just never going to
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  happen, I don't think. I think it's going to be the new
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  speedster. What do you think, Michael?
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  There's a lot of speculation, a lot of speculation.
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  Some people think it's an St. cab and, and, you know, purists
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  say no, they don't want to step on what the St. is because it's
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  so revered right now. I, I, I do think it's an Rs cab
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  personally. You know, I think they're
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  looking at the, I mean, Porsches had to raise prices, right?
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  They just came out with their quarterly earnings and, and,
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  and, and being tariffs and all the things that impacted them.
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  I don't want to call it a money grab, but I think, you know, pop
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  goes up and cut those down, price goes up.
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  So that wouldn't shock me. That wouldn't shock me because I
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  think when you look at a lot of those cars like the speedsters
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  or or that that don't have as much usability, whereas if you
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  could somehow engineer a roof on it, you know, on an Rs, you
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  know, it it probably people will want them and they'll drive them
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  hopefully. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I would They ever put a manual in that?
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  No, not now. I mean, I mean, I'm speaking out
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  of turn. I don't know for a fact.
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  I don't believe so, just just because then everybody's going
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  to say, why don't you do it for the rest of them, you know?
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  Yeah, it, you know, and that makes sense.
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  I mean, there's the Spider Rs. Why would there be a Speedster
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  Rs or some you know, some sort of you know?
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  I think it depends which route they go right?
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  If they go make it an Rs cab then it definitely won't be a
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  manual. If they go for an St. cab then
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  it could be there. You go?
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  Yeah. So we will see.
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  I mean, it's just names, right? It's all going to be kind of the
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  same car no matter what they call.
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  It same running gear underneath right?
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  I went for a couple of random picks.
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  The first one is probably not a great car, but it did have a
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  great owner. So Bonhams have a 1980
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  Mercedes-Benz 450SL, and this car was delivered new to 1 Tom
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  Petty, and he was the reason I picked up a guitar.
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  If he ever heard me play, he'd probably be the reason I put
• 17:34
  down a guitar. But yeah, he Rockstar ownership
• 17:39
  has got to add something to a value, right?
• 17:42
  Well, until you see an Adam Durrett's car come up for
• 17:44
  auction. I guess that's your car, huh?
• 17:46
  I know of one. I know of 1.
• 17:48
  There's a vineyard in Northern California where there is a
• 17:51
  common gear that used well but still belongs to him.
• 17:54
  So for those not aware, Adam Duritz is the leading accounting
• 17:57
  crows. He he bought this car with his
• 17:59
  first paycheck and he's not driven it for like 20 years and
• 18:02
  it's sat at a vineyard in California.
• 18:05
  So maybe I'll go and investigate if they'll sell that car, but.
• 18:08
  Yeah, that's a car worth buying for the story.
• 18:10
  I mean, like, you're not going to have another story like that.
• 18:12
  Yeah, let's, let's call them. Anyway, license plate, Mr.
• 18:15
  Jones. Yeah, yeah, all the all the
• 18:18
  vibes. Tom Petty bought this car in
• 18:20
  1980 but the valuation on this car is between 25 and 35,000.
• 18:27
  Does that seem so I'm I'm assuming the car is a piece of
• 18:30
  shit? No, it is this So I've owned a
• 18:32
  couple one O sevens, R1 O sevens, right?
• 18:34
  And they're they're amazing cars.
• 18:36
  One of the cars I owned was A380 SL that had this is 84 dual
• 18:42
  climate control. And that sounds really novel
• 18:45
  until you realize you got to buy 2 of everything at Mercedes
• 18:48
  prices because I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
• 18:50
  I've never seen dual climate control, you know, since, you
• 18:53
  know, the late night, you know, early 90s when it, you know, it
• 18:55
  came into my world. But anyway, you got to buy 2 of
• 18:57
  everything. But they, they're really good
• 18:59
  cars. They drive really well.
• 19:00
  They're by and large, they're fairly easy to maintain, but
• 19:03
  they made a ton of them from what, 7273 through basically
• 19:08
  8988. So that doesn't surprise me.
• 19:11
  And then to your point, Dan, Phil, whatever you're, you know,
• 19:14
  I can hear it and feel it and you know, the night.
• 19:17
  But yeah, Dan has. Entered his name as Phil Collins
• 19:20
  on the Yeah. For the audio folks, yeah, he's
• 19:22
  he's still calling. Everybody, it's a different
• 19:24
  musician. But yeah, I think that I think
• 19:26
  it's a question of, you know, are you a Tom Petty fan and do
• 19:28
  you want to pay for some of his, you know, old boogers and X and
• 19:32
  Harry? Might find a pillar too.
• 19:35
  Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
• 19:37
  I think he's a great car though. By the way, I highly recommend
• 19:39
  anybody who wants and has, you know, has kind of spare cash and
• 19:42
  like they're really fun cars. They really.
• 19:44
  Really are, yeah. They're worth all the money.
• 19:46
  Yeah, I think a petty, you know, association is worth 5 grand,
• 19:49
  right? Just something to talk about at
• 19:51
  parties. What do you think?
• 19:52
  I mean, would you or do you think it's going to go way, way
• 19:54
  higher than that just because of the association?
• 19:56
  Well, it looks like it's sold without reserve, so OK.
• 20:00
  Maybe. Bring your check.
• 20:01
  Maybe I'll put a cheeky bit in and add to the slightly building
• 20:07
  car collection which we'll talk about later.
• 20:09
  The second car is a car. I can't believe they've already
• 20:13
  increased in value a lot. And that's 1991, but obviously
• 20:19
  it's not a 91, it's a reimagined singer DLS.
• 20:23
  And I think they were like just over 2 million new.
• 20:26
  Is that right around that sort of 224?
• 20:30
  A lot. I'm going to put down a lot.
• 20:32
  A lot. The estimate is over 3,000,000.
• 20:35
  It's between 2.9 and 3.2 so. There's no waiting list.
• 20:39
  Yeah, you don't have to wait. You jump to the start of the
• 20:41
  queue. 1 of 75 lightweight studies got a four liter there
• 20:47
  and that one is going to be through Broad Arrow, so that
• 20:50
  will obviously be at the Jet Center.
• 20:53
  So yeah. There, I'm a fan.
• 20:55
  I think, you know, if I had the money, I'd buy a singer.
• 20:57
  Just the pinnacle, isn't it? Yeah, they're beautiful.
• 20:59
  They're pretty great. Real quickly, I do want to I
• 21:02
  want to throw this out to our audience and then maybe they can
• 21:04
  track it down or I can right on your NSX type R, which are
• 21:08
  stunning. I I know I saw a video.
• 21:10
  I will have to dig it up. Someone I forget famous
• 21:14
  Youtubers taking a ride in one in Japan.
• 21:16
  And he couldn't they the owners told him not to roll down the
• 21:19
  windows because the window regulators are something like 7
• 21:23
  or $8000. So that if the yeah, if the
• 21:26
  window regulate they they were driving around Tokyo or one of
• 21:29
  the one of the pre pictures in a very it was, you know, kind of a
• 21:32
  warmer day and they couldn't they the guy does a voice over.
• 21:36
  It might have been Larry Chen. I'll find it.
• 21:38
  OK, but we can have people comment and and and talk about
• 21:41
  it. But I, I'm 99 Percent sure he
• 21:43
  said it was like a four digit window regulator, if you could
• 21:46
  even find 1. So he couldn't roll down the
• 21:48
  windows and neither did the owner as he's being, you know,
• 21:50
  squirted around in an NSXR. So that's been the one thing
• 21:54
  with that car. I was like, if you can't even
• 21:56
  roll down, the can't even go to McDonald's in it.
• 21:59
  Are they lightweight equivalents of what's in the standard NSX or
• 22:01
  something? Cervantes, if you're listening,
• 22:03
  let us know. Yeah, it's unobtainium.
• 22:06
  I don't know, but they made a comment that they didn't, they
• 22:08
  couldn't and was instructed not to roll down the window because
• 22:11
  if if it happened to break, granted it's a Honda, it
• 22:13
  probably would last quite a while.
• 22:15
  But if it did break, it was a it was a four digit fix.
• 22:20
  Wow, well I want to have. I'll research that.
• 22:23
  Yeah, I wonder how geeky our audience is.
• 22:25
  So the NSX is very famous for being developed by 1 Edson
• 22:29
  Senna, but there was a second racing driver who is equally a
• 22:32
  very famous racing driver who developed that car.
• 22:35
  He is always in the shadows of Senna.
• 22:38
  But I wonder if anyone can tell us in the comments, maybe we'll
• 22:40
  send them some stickers or something, because many people
• 22:44
  know that second. Name.
• 22:45
  AI can tell us, but even if you use AI, we'll have one slide.
• 22:49
  You just got to call them. Stickers.
• 22:51
  Yeah, I think. You got any answers?
• 22:52
  I think. So you think you know?
• 22:54
  Yeah. Do you know Michael?
• 22:55
  I do not. I do not.
• 22:57
  I've just seen a lot of the videos with Aaron running
• 22:59
  around. Car Week, Ford and in particular
• 23:03
  Jim Farley has said we're launching something at Car Week,
• 23:07
  which will be almost like the second coming of the Model T, as
• 23:11
  in that important to the brand, that important to the future of
• 23:15
  the company. Any ideas on what it is?
• 23:20
  Let's break it down. It's got to be a world car,
• 23:22
  right? It's got to be an everyman.
• 23:23
  Car It's got to be for everyone. It's got to be available around
• 23:26
  the world. Has it got to be electric?
• 23:29
  Well, I'd say I was going about to say because my guess, if I
• 23:32
  could guess anything, it's electrically because development
• 23:35
  cycles are so much longer now. So if they're in a place where
• 23:37
  they're they're, you know, ready to talk about it, they've been
• 23:40
  developing it 3648, sixty months ago.
• 23:44
  And so back then, everything looks quite a bit differently
• 23:47
  from a number of different angles.
• 23:49
  So it probably is. But you know, maybe, maybe
• 23:53
  they're smart and they did what Dodge did with the new Charger
• 23:55
  and they make it so that it can be either ICE or EV and, and
• 24:00
  sloppable. But yeah, my, my, my money's on
• 24:03
  something electric. It's something I don't know,
• 24:05
  affordable is relative, but something affordable.
• 24:09
  There's a rendering going around, right?
• 24:11
  Didn't you send it to me, Dan? Was that on the group text?
• 24:15
  Yeah, and the front end of it looks like like a rabbit from
• 24:18
  like 1978 or something. It's a very throwback look,
• 24:23
  which I didn't. Think of the West Rabbit, right?
• 24:25
  Yeah, what was the, you know. It's bugged, Bunny.
• 24:31
  Bugged Bunny. That's teeth, yeah.
• 24:36
  Or didn't Ford make a small pickup truck in the 70s?
• 24:39
  Or maybe it was a rebranded Japanese thing.
• 24:42
  Or something. Oh yeah, they, I mean the B2000
• 24:44
  and the and the was was a Mazda pickup that I forget what the
• 24:48
  name of the the Ford variant was.
• 24:51
  And so, yeah, I mean, they've always, they've had access to a
• 24:53
  small pickup truck for a long, long time It.
• 24:56
  Looked like that. I didn't hate it, so yeah.
• 24:59
  So 1 rumor I heard was that it's going to be a slate competitor.
• 25:03
  I mean, you could argue they already have a slate competitor,
• 25:06
  right? But with a gas engine engine.
• 25:09
  So it could be that Slate's days are numbered before they've even
• 25:13
  shipped a car. Well, poor Jeff Bezos.
• 25:16
  Yeah, he needs the money, doesn't he?
• 25:19
  I heard other rumors and I don't think this is the Model T, but I
• 25:22
  heard rumors of a four door Mustang.
• 25:25
  Is there a market for a 4 door Mustang?
• 25:28
  I don't think so. I don't, I don't because here's
• 25:31
  the here's the thing, you look at Cadillac, right?
• 25:32
  Cadillac has two of the best sedans out there in ACT 5,
• 25:35
  Blackwing CT4. And those are the only ones that
• 25:38
  sell. Cadillac actually had an uptick
• 25:40
  in sales, but it's largely from the SUV's.
• 25:44
  And even by the way, their EV sales are good for the Cadillac
• 25:47
  brand. But there are sedan sales are,
• 25:49
  you know, mediocre. There's just not a lot of
• 25:51
  everybody's moving away from sedans.
• 25:53
  It's either big trucks or crossovers.
• 25:55
  And so I don't know who's investing in.
• 25:58
  I mean, even look at Slate. Slate could have come up with
• 25:59
  any type of car and they chose a small pickup.
• 26:01
  So I, I, I think I'm a sedan fan, but I just, I think
• 26:05
  they're, those days are numbered.
• 26:07
  Yeah, I'm going to disagree because I just had this Genesis
• 26:11
  G90 for a week. There's an article coming on
• 26:13
  Autoblog any day about it. And so I looked at the numbers
• 26:16
  for Genesis because I know Genesis numbers are up across
• 26:19
  the board. And I thought, oh, for sure,
• 26:21
  sedan, sedan sales would be going down.
• 26:23
  It's all SU VS. And I was surprised to find out
• 26:24
  that that wasn't the case. And you know, I don't know, I
• 26:28
  think everything's cyclical. I think people are getting maybe
• 26:30
  burned out on big SU VS and crossovers that maybe I'm wrong,
• 26:34
  but I also think that, you know, they've already sold, sold the
• 26:38
  soul of the Mustang name, right, with like the Maki Mustang.
• 26:40
  So Mustang everything right, have a Mustang sport truck, have
• 26:45
  a Mustang, whatever. I just feel like, you know,
• 26:47
  that's no longer a sacred cow, right?
• 26:50
  Chop that thing up. Spread.
• 26:53
  But Dan's early comment about it being a Model T, right, Model T,
• 26:57
  at least from my history as I remember it, not that I passed
• 27:00
  this through the flying grade, was it was affordable to
• 27:02
  everybody. Yeah, it was purely accessible.
• 27:05
  And that's I guess maybe what I'm focused on is like it's got
• 27:08
  to be accessible and that just comes down to money or are.
• 27:10
  We talking about two different things, Dan.
• 27:12
  Is there the Model T car? And there's also a 4 door
• 27:15
  Mustang. It could be both, it could be
• 27:17
  both, right? The only thing I can think of
• 27:19
  with the 4 door Mustang is that would be then a direct
• 27:22
  competitor to. I always get the Challenger and
• 27:24
  the Charger mixed up, but whichever 1 is the 4 door.
• 27:27
  Well, they're both the now I think the charger, right, the
• 27:30
  two and the four door or I think are both called the charger.
• 27:33
  Yeah, they're in the EV and the new EV.
• 27:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 27:37
  So maybe, maybe, but we will see in a week's time.
• 27:41
  I think you alluded to this, Ryan, in terms of they've been a
• 27:45
  little bit short when it came to naming conventions.
• 27:47
  So instead of going for a new SUV, they called the electric
• 27:50
  SUV a Mustang. Yeah, they need help.
• 27:54
  And, and I think they finally recognized they need help.
• 27:56
  And is that right? You saw a a job advert for,
• 27:59
  well, it. Was Angel Opnik, but I'm totally
• 28:02
  going to apply to this job. They're looking for someone
• 28:05
  that's called a nomenclature strategist and Ford, let me tell
• 28:09
  you, I am your man. I I could come up with some
• 28:11
  great names, I swear. So yeah, they're looking for
• 28:15
  someone to name their cars. It's, it's a well paying job.
• 28:19
  You know, I, I guess it's your point.
• 28:20
  They, they need names that aren't Mustang.
• 28:24
  I've got the job listing here. Do you want to know some of the
• 28:26
  other? Please give us some details.
• 28:29
  Credentials get paid 6 figures to name stuff at Ford, says
• 28:32
  Jalabnik. Ford is hiring a world.
• 28:35
  I'm sorry. OK, Speaking of words, they've
• 28:37
  messed this up. Ford is hiring a word expert,
• 28:40
  they said. A world expert.
• 28:41
  Someone with a rare and powerful gift who can do things some
• 28:44
  don't even dare to dream of name stuff.
• 28:45
  And I think this would be a dream job.
• 28:47
  Well, but you bring up a good point.
• 28:49
  I don't know if that was an error because yeah, the word,
• 28:52
  the word world has a real world application, as we very well
• 28:56
  know. We'll do a quick go back in
• 28:57
  history lesson. I looked up and there's a few
• 29:00
  like where they've just companies have got it so wrong.
• 29:04
  So the first one was a master and they decided to name a car
• 29:08
  called the Mazda La Punta. Now I don't speak Spanish but
• 29:11
  from what I understand that is a illicit maybe lady of the night
• 29:17
  or someone who puts it about a lot.
• 29:19
  So the Mazda the Mazda La Punta Dodge did one better.
• 29:27
  So Dodge created a car called the Dodge Kahunas.
• 29:34
  Imagine that. Yeah, I've got a Dodge Big
• 29:36
  Kahunas, Cars and coffee. So that was one.
• 29:41
  And then the final one, which I thought was quite funny, was
• 29:46
  Isuzu, which I don't know if they still exist anymore, do
• 29:48
  they? As a truck company, yeah,
• 29:50
  they're still, they still make, you know, medium heavy duty
• 29:52
  trucks. Yeah, so.
• 29:55
  So this I think was supposed to be named after a sumo sumo
• 29:58
  wrestler. Tracks.
• 30:01
  The Isuzu Giga light dump. Better than a heavy dump.
• 30:09
  Yeah. So guys, I just.
• 30:11
  And so it's 6 figures to do that, right?
• 30:13
  You need somebody, yeah, but make sure that it's not
• 30:15
  offensive in another country. But I just went to ChatGPT and I
• 30:18
  said create some new Ford car model names for us.
• 30:22
  They gave me 10. There's a Ford Grizzly.
• 30:25
  OK, not bad. Yeah, the Ford Ridgeback, the
• 30:29
  Ford Out Climb. Not really working for me.
• 30:32
  The Talon X, the Iron Trail, the Coyote, the Vortex, the Stone
• 30:37
  Hawk, The Badlands are in the Thunder line.
• 30:39
  OK, they do need a human. Yeah, they do need a human.
• 30:42
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:43
  Hit me up Ford, you know, to find.
• 30:46
  Me listening. Long gone to the days where
• 30:49
  people used to watch copyright right and trade marking because
• 30:53
  Ford badged the Cyclone the way it's supposed to be selled with
• 30:56
  AC. And that's why the GMC Cyclone
• 30:59
  spelled with an S. So much better with an S too,
• 31:02
  yeah? There's well, well, we know the
• 31:06
  big Porsche 9O1911. You know that that's, that's,
• 31:09
  you know, obviously lore or, you know, legend.
• 31:12
  There's a lot of those that that you know, when people start
• 31:14
  going down the rabbit hole of why something's named X rather
• 31:17
  than Y or how it started out. Corvette Corvettes A Corvettes a
• 31:21
  fish. No, I'm sorry.
• 31:23
  Camaro, one of them was made-up. One of them was I think Camaro
• 31:26
  was made-up or Corvette was made-up.
• 31:27
  I'm, I'm maybe mixing those two up and like a lot of them just
• 31:29
  came out of thin air because the thing they wanted to was taken
• 31:31
  up by somebody else. Yeah, yeah, I think Corvette is
• 31:34
  a small boat. Yes, it's an escort boat in the
• 31:37
  Navy. That's what it was named after,
• 31:39
  which I think was a British boat.
• 31:41
  Yeah, it wasn't, Yeah, it wasn't a merit.
• 31:42
  That's, that was the weird thing because the Stingray was the,
• 31:45
  you know, yeah. Anyway, so they, they they've
• 31:47
  they've got. So they do need a body and not
• 31:50
  AI to, you know, make sure they don't get in hot water or they
• 31:53
  end up with somebody else's copyright.
• 31:55
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Ryan applied for it and then
• 31:57
  we'll start a campaign to support your application.
• 32:01
  I need all the help I can get. We'll get bills get.
• 32:04
  T-shirts done at car Week, hire Ryan.
• 32:06
  And if you, if you see us in these T-shirts with hire Ryan,
• 32:10
  you know, point us out to the people at Ford, right, right,
• 32:13
  right. So that's what else at car week.
• 32:15
  What else? I know the Porsche party's back
• 32:18
  on this this year and we'll be going to that.
• 32:20
  We're looking forward to seeing who we bump into there.
• 32:22
  Yes, yes. I mean, everyone knows who we we
• 32:25
  got to hang out with last year. Well, Michael didn't, but no Mr.
• 32:31
  Andy Pruninger himself, which was a real thrill.
• 32:34
  Wonderful. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:37
  We kind of press ganged him, didn't we?
• 32:40
  He was minding his own business and we all just bounded over we.
• 32:44
  Kind of kettled them in with large numbers.
• 32:46
  Yeah. Demanded a picture, yeah.
• 32:49
  We had Deisty, we had Colin. That's all of us.
• 32:52
  He wasn't going anywhere. We.
• 32:55
  Had lots of advice. Yes, it's a good do, if I
• 32:58
  recall, yeah. I think I said to him, why don't
• 33:00
  you do a convertible GT3 now? So if it is.
• 33:04
  Right front end. It was my idea A car week last
• 33:07
  year. Send them.
• 33:09
  Tell them where to send the royalty checks.
• 33:10
  Right, exactly. Send over a car.
• 33:12
  That car, yeah, I'll take one at.
• 33:16
  You know, Dan, to answer your question, I think just being
• 33:18
  there, there's just an energy in the air.
• 33:20
  You run into people you haven't seen for years.
• 33:22
  You see, you know, people you don't know but wish you did.
• 33:25
  I mean, it's it's just, but yet it's very accessible to your
• 33:28
  point. I mean, you can go up, you know,
• 33:30
  there, there's the roof family, right?
• 33:32
  You know, all of them, right? And you can go up and say hi and
• 33:35
  maybe grab a, you know, last year it was a cowboy, right?
• 33:39
  With the with the rodeo. The rodeo.
• 33:40
  Rodeo. So I wonder what they're going
• 33:42
  to have this year. So the first thing we do when we
• 33:44
  get to the quail this year is rush the roof booth to see what
• 33:46
  kind of great gift they've got to give us.
• 33:49
  Yeah, yeah. And if they've got underpants,
• 33:51
  Ryan is your man. I want some roof undies.
• 33:56
  I swear to God I do. I would rock those things on the
• 33:58
  outside. I'm.
• 34:01
  Wearing roof pants right now. I heard from Roof that I've had
• 34:06
  two stories, one that they are going to launch a new car, but
• 34:08
  the story I heard is they're going to be doing the delivery
• 34:10
  of their first rodeo to a customer and that'll be a North
• 34:14
  American customer, so that'll be at the quail.
• 34:16
  What color do you think it'll be?
• 34:17
  Because the the OG originally is this great orange.
• 34:21
  Yeah. Is it?
• 34:22
  It's green and orange, isn't it? Was it?
• 34:24
  Was it orange? It was orange and then they had
• 34:26
  a green I think SCR next to it right if I recall.
• 34:29
  That SCR was chips. Yeah, that.
• 34:33
  Was yeah, we were at the the button on the stories and we got
• 34:38
  invited to that, you know, wonderful moment that that SCR
• 34:43
  was sitting in the Parkway, you know, in the park court of this
• 34:45
  beautiful home. And we all looked at it and we
• 34:48
  were like, where wasn't that somewhere else?
• 34:49
  Like 12 hours ago? He had just taken delivery of
• 34:53
  it. So yeah, it was, it was kind of
• 34:55
  a interesting kind of kismet moment.
• 34:57
  But anyway, I digress. Yeah.
• 34:59
  Well, if we hang out with these people, we will become these
• 35:02
  people, right? Love it.
• 35:04
  No, I just want to be their friends.
• 35:05
  I just want to. I'll just be a hanger on.
• 35:08
  Yeah, the best, the best cars are other people's cars.
• 35:11
  If they're great cars I need to drive.
• 35:14
  Absolutely. Incidentally, I will have Alfa
• 35:18
  Romeo, Julia Quadrifolio to drive up.
• 35:21
  So Alfa Romeo have lent me one. So I will let you folks know
• 35:24
  what that car is like because it has a high reputation, doesn't
• 35:29
  it? They're, they're great cars and
• 35:31
  they're timeless and they've been out now for a while and
• 35:33
  they still catch my eye when I see one.
• 35:35
  They're just just special cars. They really are.
• 35:38
  Yeah, so over 500 horsepower, I think they are a Ferrari engine
• 35:44
  with two cylinders chopped off. Yes, I think it's based on the
• 35:47
  California. So I'm looking forward to my
• 35:49
  drive up to car week for sure. Take the long route.
• 35:52
  Yeah, that's what I like. And Speaking of driving,
• 35:57
  Michael, you've just been through a driving course.
• 35:59
  Is that? Right.
• 35:59
  Yeah, I, I finally went over to the Porsche Experience in
• 36:02
  Carson, which I, if you're in Southern California, it's either
• 36:05
  worth the trip or if you're local definitely go down for a
• 36:07
  number of reasons. First of which you know,
• 36:09
  obviously the, the smorgasbord of what you can do there is, is
• 36:14
  amazing. They have a, a, a fun little
• 36:17
  whippy little track that just kind of the border of it.
• 36:19
  They have kind of a pseudo drag strip that they let you do hard
• 36:22
  launches on. They have three different skid
• 36:25
  pad. Type 1 is a track that you can
• 36:28
  kind of get sideways on all adrift.
• 36:30
  There's an actual wet circle course.
• 36:33
  And then they have what they call, I forget what the formal
• 36:35
  name of it, but it, it's a wet pad that has a major bump in
• 36:38
  the, in the front. So it, it kicks the car sideways
• 36:41
  the moment you roll over at about 30 miles an hour.
• 36:44
  And so it's about, it's all about car control, right?
• 36:45
  It's about, you know, remembering where your hands and
• 36:47
  your feet are, less so because they're all PDKS.
• 36:50
  But it's just in, you know, you can run Macons, you can run
• 36:53
  Ticans. I chose AGT 4RS and AGT 3 Rs.
• 37:00
  The notable thing about the GT3 Rs was it was the only 992.2
• 37:05
  that they had in the fleet. I was pure luck more than
• 37:08
  anything. And it's a hell of a car, you
• 37:11
  know, you know, we were debating this is between the group about
• 37:16
  the difference between the two. And for me, I like a heavier
• 37:18
  car. I, you know, the GT3 is just
• 37:21
  more of my style of car, whereas the, the gentleman that I had as
• 37:24
  my instructor for 90 minutes, he mentioned to me that the GT4RS
• 37:28
  is something that even he is cognizant of.
• 37:31
  And if he wants to try different things, he uses that car because
• 37:34
  it's very abrupt at the limits. Whereas the GT3 Rs, especially
• 37:39
  the smaller courses there, you don't really ever get to the
• 37:41
  limits, even for someone who's averages myself in driving
• 37:45
  skills. So it's, I don't say it's safer,
• 37:47
  but it's, it's, it's, you know, it's more approachable, it's
• 37:50
  less threatening. But they're both wonderful cars.
• 37:53
  My favorite part of the story is because it was a brand new car
• 37:56
  literally with less than 400 miles on it.
• 37:58
  Every time you started the car, it had a warning in the screen
• 38:01
  that says it did a countdown and I don't know what the number is,
• 38:04
  but it said 700 and some odd miles and through braking
• 38:07
  period. Yet this gentleman had me doing
• 38:09
  launch control, which is basically put it and drive, put
• 38:12
  your foot on the brake, match the gas.
• 38:14
  We held it for like 5 seconds and it's bouncing off the red
• 38:17
  limit or around 8000 RPM. And then there's a couple of
• 38:20
  long straightaways on that track where you can take it to red
• 38:23
  line before the the transmission shifts, whether in sport or
• 38:26
  track mode. And they did not care about
• 38:28
  breaking period. So maybe breaking periods A
• 38:30
  myth, but I don't know. I know if I want to be the owner
• 38:33
  of this night, this this car after, you know, it's has life
• 38:36
  there, however long it lives, but it's a hell of a car.
• 38:39
  It's my personal favorite of the group, but I recommend anybody
• 38:42
  who's in SoCal if you have the time.
• 38:44
  And the best part about it is the I did a morning session,
• 38:47
  which I highly recommend because the restaurant opens at 11 AM
• 38:50
  and the restaurants only open for lunch.
• 38:52
  And it is a fabulous restaurant overlooking the track.
• 38:55
  Very good food, wonderful service.
• 38:57
  The people are very, you know, nice and accommodating.
• 38:59
  So it's just a great way to spend half a day in Southern
• 39:01
  California. Yeah, Yeah, that sounds awesome.
• 39:04
  That's something I've always talked about.
• 39:05
  Never have done well, just. Do it.
• 39:08
  I mean, there's, I mean money and time notwithstanding, just
• 39:11
  do it. It's like it's a great way to
• 39:13
  spend an afternoon it really. Is I have friends who aren't
• 39:15
  even car people who have done that and just have gone on and
• 39:18
  on about it. Apparently they just.
• 39:20
  It's a lot of fun, but the people are great.
• 39:22
  The accommodations are nice. Everybody's, you know,
• 39:24
  understanding, you know, people know you're not there to like
• 39:27
  set lap times or doing anything crazy.
• 39:29
  And so everybody, it's just fun. It's just fun around like minded
• 39:32
  people and it's like a warm, inviting atmosphere.
• 39:35
  And so you know, you're not intimidated.
• 39:37
  I think when you sometimes people do driving courses or go
• 39:39
  to events like that, they, they, they feel intimidated or feel
• 39:42
  like they have to show off or feel like they have to keep up
• 39:44
  with the Joneses or the person next to them or whatever.
• 39:47
  It's you, it's an instructor, and they'll take it as far as
• 39:50
  you want or what they feel you're capable of, or if you
• 39:52
  just want to have fun time like I did, let's go have a fun time.
• 39:55
  And I think there's nothing better.
• 39:58
  And the easiest way to get into those cars, knowing that those
• 40:01
  cars get high premiums now, so. And get stuck away.
• 40:04
  I mean, even the gentleman that was with me, you know, he
• 40:07
  lamented that most of the cars and that ilk get stuck away in a
• 40:11
  garage somewhere and have minimum miles where we didn't go
• 40:14
  so far as to talk about how much, how, how many miles they
• 40:18
  accumulate before they do whatever they do with them
• 40:19
  afterwards. But you know, all those cars are
• 40:22
  driven, admittedly, they just do maintenance.
• 40:26
  They have a service center there that at least I did not see a
• 40:29
  lot of those cars broken or, or damaged.
• 40:31
  And so, you know, it's just it's it's a wonderful thing.
• 40:34
  It really is. So I highly recommend it.
• 40:36
  Not that they're sponsoring us. They should Porsche America, you
• 40:39
  know, they can throw some love our way.
• 40:41
  But but yeah, no, definitely, definitely a great way to spend
• 40:43
  a few hours. Yeah, yeah, right on.
• 40:47
  Nice. I bought a Porsche.
• 40:48
  Yeah, it's. Going to I know where those cars
• 40:50
  go, no. I went for renting 1 and Dan's
• 40:52
  going to come in and be like well you know, screw you.
• 40:54
  I just went and bought 1. So yeah, it's not about, it's
• 40:58
  not about what you know, it's about who you know.
• 41:00
  So that's why I know that. For the levels of GT products,
• 41:03
  but I'd been test driving a few cars for a while, hadn't I?
• 41:06
  I'd done the M4 and I test drove APDK Boxster 4 litre and it was
• 41:14
  a couple of weeks ago, maybe a week ago.
• 41:16
  I was searching online as you do, when I found a four litre
• 41:20
  718 Boxster and it was a bit of a weird commercial adverb.
• 41:28
  It was up for sale at an authorized dealer.
• 41:32
  The car was a 2024 year model and it'd been on the forecourt
• 41:38
  for like 6 months and hadn't sold.
• 41:41
  So I want to give massive credit to John and Justin at Porsche
• 41:45
  Colorado Springs. You know, not all Porsche
• 41:48
  dealerships are equal and those guys are definitely at the top
• 41:51
  of the pile when it comes to service knowledge.
• 41:54
  And even if you don't buy a car through them, they're car people
• 41:57
  so willing to help you. They've.
• 41:58
  Got a great podcast too first. I've got a very good podcast so
• 42:03
  I've must have made 10 phone calls to John and Justin over
• 42:06
  the last two weeks and every time I had the same level of
• 42:10
  energy and enthusiasm from them. So very grateful.
• 42:13
  So I've ended up with a Guards Red 2024 four liter GTS.
• 42:18
  It is manual. It is 6 years of warranty on it
• 42:23
  so hopefully I'll be pretty good for a little while.
• 42:26
  Why was it so cheap or the only reason I can find right now is
• 42:29
  that the hood doesn't match the car in terms of traditionally
• 42:34
  those red cars have black hoods. Well, we should, we should, I
• 42:36
  should interrupt say not the hood, hood those to us
• 42:38
  Americans, it's but the the roof, the cover.
• 42:40
  The OK, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because otherwise.
• 42:44
  People can give up a really different visual here.
• 42:47
  Yeah. So yeah, so it's got a blue roof
• 42:50
  with a red. So I'm calling it the Superman
• 42:52
  spec. And yeah, I I need to get to my
• 42:56
  1000 miles. I'm not going to treat it like a
• 42:58
  Porsche experience car and it's arrived.
• 43:01
  It's it's been detailed by some good friends and I'm looking
• 43:05
  forward to lots of fun driving in it.
• 43:07
  It's gorgeous. Congrats, Dan, it is.
• 43:09
  Congratulations. Yeah, it's it's just beautiful
• 43:12
  guards by car, but it's got like a Navy blue, like a dark blue
• 43:14
  top and I just think it sets it apart.
• 43:16
  It's and don't discount it. That's the four liter six that
• 43:20
  is in GT cars basically. So I think you've I think you've
• 43:26
  got the right car in the right place at the right time and I
• 43:29
  think you're going to love it. You're going to keep it forever.
• 43:31
  I think it'll be finally the car that you really gel with right
• 43:35
  and just never want to get rid of.
• 43:37
  But Congrats now Michael, now three of the four of us on the
• 43:41
  that car show team own versions of the six cylinder Cayman or
• 43:46
  Boxster and yet you're in front of a I'm sorry, what was it a 92
• 43:51
  Silverado? Yeah, the piece of shit Chevy.
• 43:54
  Yeah, yes, your, your oil changes cost more than this car
• 43:57
  and then this truck. So again, I'd argue you could
• 44:02
  drive it like a Porsche experience car because you got
• 44:04
  six years to figure for them to figure that out.
• 44:06
  And then, and then once it's fully fixed, you know, not that
• 44:10
  you do anything to it or anything would go wrong, but
• 44:11
  then you could worry about, you know, the next six years.
• 44:15
  I've already had messages from Mr. McGuinness, Dan McGuinness,
• 44:18
  a good friend of the show who said these are the things you
• 44:20
  need to do to the car, exhaust, etcetera.
• 44:23
  So what? Do you say?
• 44:24
  I'm curious because I haven't touched a damn thing on mine and
• 44:26
  I I still enjoy it. What what?
• 44:28
  What are the Dan McGuinness prescribed mods that one must do
• 44:31
  upon taking delivery of their new Porsche?
• 44:34
  Well the first one was associated with being able to
• 44:37
  turn off the Start Stop button, but I'm not sure because on mine
• 44:42
  you just stick it in sport mode and that this that solves that
• 44:46
  problem. OK but do you not have a sport
• 44:48
  mode on the GT4 or? No, there are no modes for
• 44:50
  anything which I which I like. And so the first thing I do when
• 44:54
  I get in the car is I turn on the loud exhaust.
• 44:57
  Yeah, I turn off the auto stop start and depending on where I
• 45:01
  am, sometimes I do the Rev matching.
• 45:03
  But interesting, it's a little different, yeah.
• 45:05
  Yeah, so I have modes. So when you go to sport mode, it
• 45:09
  doesn't do the stop start thing. So that's why I didn't know
• 45:13
  that. That's why he sent that to me.
• 45:14
  You. Got that swanky little dial
• 45:15
  right? Yes, yeah, give it a little
• 45:18
  tickle, yeah. Give it a tickle and it makes a
• 45:20
  lot more noise. That's another title for the
• 45:23
  show. That's.
• 45:25
  That's. A.
• 45:27
  Family show This is a. Family show, yeah.
• 45:30
  So far we've talked about it. That's not the underwear.
• 45:33
  That's the tag we need. We need Dan's voicing that line.
• 45:38
  I think we could apply that to the Dodge Kahunas as well and
• 45:45
  the second, the second mode getting this back into
• 45:47
  adulthood. The second mode is an exhaust,
• 45:50
  so I don't think it needs it. But you know, I'm curious to
• 45:54
  understand because it gives you 25 more horsepower this exhaust.
• 45:57
  So they say. Yeah, I have a question for you
• 46:01
  guys because you live in this world more than I do.
• 46:03
  But knowing what I know about kind of, you know, different
• 46:05
  makes it it's which exhaust. And so, at least in my
• 46:09
  experience, are there prominent ones that it's not about naming
• 46:13
  names and Pooh poohing other people's product versus someone
• 46:16
  else's, but that I have to imagine that's a quandary,
• 46:19
  right, Because they're not cheap.
• 46:20
  You don't really get to test them before you you know, it's
• 46:23
  not try before you buy. So how does one go about finding
• 46:28
  the right one? Or is it a factory 1?
• 46:30
  Like, you know, is there a factory sport exhaust for it,
• 46:32
  etcetera? Like I step me through that
• 46:34
  thought process because did he tell you which one to buy?
• 46:37
  Yeah, I got a full link to the. Is he getting an affiliate?
• 46:41
  Is he getting an affiliate payment you complete that late
• 46:44
  there? We go I had to get a Netflix
• 46:48
  subscription before you would share.
• 46:49
  With me, yeah. So they're scraping your data
• 46:54
  anti. Exhaust.
• 46:58
  So you maybe it's these are just the over axle pipes.
• 47:00
  So you're basically deleting what they call the OPF or the
• 47:03
  filters. Yeah, yeah, right.
• 47:05
  And so if you do that, I have opted not to do that on my car,
• 47:08
  but I've also driven Dan's cars over the years, which he's had
• 47:11
  this done. I will say it's a fuller,
• 47:14
  throatier sound. But if I think with my ears you
• 47:17
  lose a little bit of the metallic rasp that is is there,
• 47:22
  you know what I I don't think you can lose in hell if it gets
• 47:25
  25 extra horsepower to you and I know it.
• 47:28
  You also save I think 25 or 35 lbs too because you basically
• 47:32
  remove these over axle particulate filters that aren't
• 47:35
  even really utilized in US cars or for the European market.
• 47:40
  So you're basically just carrying around these shells of
• 47:42
  these things that don't need to be there anyway, so.
• 47:45
  Not not to burst a bubble. Welcome to the hell of
• 47:47
  California, though, because if you're if it's OK, if it's if
• 47:49
  it's a true cat back or, or, you know, kind of basically a
• 47:52
  muffler because of the way that's oriented, then that's OK.
• 47:55
  But if you're removing anything else, if it doesn't have a carb
• 47:57
  number, California air resources board, you can't get it.
• 48:00
  You can't they'll they'll fail you when you go in for your
• 48:03
  buying, you know, biannual smog. So that that's where like this
• 48:08
  truck behind me, I think I talked about in the last show,
• 48:10
  like I had to literally change the entire motor to keep this
• 48:13
  thing on the road. Now the Leno law, I know we've
• 48:16
  talked about another podcast is like it, you know, maybe
• 48:19
  something changes there, but that's not legal here yet.
• 48:21
  But that's what's tricky about California is everything is.
• 48:24
  So I mean, even tunes now, right Tunes now in California, if they
• 48:29
  plug it into their computer and you have any tune, not even a
• 48:31
  carb level tune, if you have any tune, they're going to fail you.
• 48:34
  And it's it, you know, we can argue, but not to get political,
• 48:36
  but like, you know, we can argue merits of that, but that's real
• 48:38
  tricky. That's what's so disappointing
• 48:40
  is you can't even do something moderately.
• 48:43
  You know why? Don't you both sign your cars
• 48:45
  over to me and we'll get Colorado plates for them?
• 48:48
  Nice, Right, Right. And now that we announced it
• 48:50
  publicly, it'll just, you know, it's not illegal or anything
• 48:53
  like all the Montana crackdowns going on right now in
• 48:56
  California. I'm just trying to get a free
• 48:59
  car too, that's all. But no, I hope it is.
• 49:03
  No, I hope it is. I hope it is.
• 49:04
  And congratulations on the purchase and excited.
• 49:06
  I, I'm excited to see you. I have to imagine that was
• 49:08
  someone's special order. Like you're buying someone's,
• 49:10
  you know, someone that that made that point.
• 49:12
  And I think that's wonderful. The story I heard was from the
• 49:16
  dealer we'll see was that the car was originally ordered in
• 49:19
  chalk with a blue roof, and at the last minute the guy buying
• 49:23
  the car pulled out of the deal. So the Porsche dealership was
• 49:27
  like, well, we've got this car order here, why don't we just
• 49:29
  change it to Guards Red, save a little bit of money, but they
• 49:33
  forgot to change the roof color. Just oh wow.
• 49:35
  May have a one of one. Could be.
• 49:38
  They'd never pull out. That's the lesson.
• 49:43
  Wait a minute, there's there's the title of the show.
• 49:49
  Lady's going to come back to a canceled show and be like, what
• 49:51
  the hell did you guys? Do that's a beautiful thing.
• 49:54
  We have no bosses, no one can cancel us, right?
• 49:57
  This is this is this is a this is a what's the safe space for
• 50:01
  folks like us? But Dan, Congrats, that car is.
• 50:05
  Awesome you've got. I can't wait to see it.
• 50:07
  You've got full leather, you've got contrasting stitching.
• 50:10
  Like I mean, it's, it's, it's a beautiful, beautiful car.
• 50:13
  And like I said, I think you're going to be very, very happy you
• 50:16
  bought it. Yeah, thank you.
• 50:17
  No, I love all the extras. I saved about 25,000 over the
• 50:21
  list on the car from the car. I mean no one does that on a
• 50:24
  Porsche like. That Porsche, Yeah, so.
• 50:27
  Not in this day and age, no. What's that?
• 50:29
  Not in this day and age, but I loved, I loved the six years.
• 50:32
  CPO, Yeah. Yeah.
• 50:34
  Win all around. Congrats.
• 50:35
  Well well bought. Well bought.
• 50:36
  Absolutely. I'll see it on Bring a Trailer
• 50:39
  next week for A50 grand over sticker.
• 50:41
  That's probably celebrity owned. Celebrity Celebrity owned one of
• 50:44
  one. Tom Petty bought it 3 weeks ago.
• 50:49
  From the grave. I mean, he's still DJ in that
• 50:52
  show on Sirius. So, you know, who knows?
• 50:54
  You get him in Tupac, you know? Oh.
• 50:58
  BB. Isn't that a show, guys?
• 51:01
  We're at 50 minutes. I mean, we can go on a show
• 51:03
  makes. Editing easier for me.
• 51:04
  Yeah, I don't know what time we started.
• 51:06
  So that was. Yeah, yeah. 51 minutes in, let's
• 51:08
  say we want to talk. About watches quickly or.
• 51:10
  Should talk about watches. Oh wow, that now we got another
• 51:13
  two hours to go where we want to start Ryan off with our new
• 51:18
  addition to the show. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:20
  If you've listened last couple weeks, you've heard our our AD
• 51:23
  for Sheffield Watches. We love Sheffield Watches and
• 51:26
  Jay Turkmus is a good friend of ours and so glad that Jay and
• 51:29
  Sheffield have joined us. Again, we've talked about this
• 51:32
  before, but go to any cars and coffee, you're going to see
• 51:34
  Sheffield Watches on multiple risks.
• 51:36
  But it got us thinking. Is part of this as part of our
• 51:41
  relationship with Sheffield? We occasionally get pitched a
• 51:43
  Sheffield to watch and so we recently were asked to each pick
• 51:46
  one out and I think we each picked out a different one or
• 51:49
  maybe 2 of. US No2 in one right?
• 51:51
  Now, OK, All right, Ryan, would you all pick out?
• 51:57
  Well, last time I think Lindsay copied me.
• 51:59
  Yeah, I'm only saying copied because I think I got the order
• 52:02
  in first, but I could be wrong. Which one was?
• 52:04
  That was that the that was one with the stripes, right?
• 52:06
  It was the blue, the blue Spikes car radio.
• 52:09
  Yeah, but according to Spike, the one to have from that
• 52:13
  collection, they did 3IN different colors is the green 1.
• 52:15
  So if you see one on eBay or you snap it up because you can't get
• 52:19
  them anymore. But I'm curious, Michael,
• 52:22
  because we all sent you our orders, but we didn't get to see
• 52:25
  what your order was. So what did you go for?
• 52:27
  Well, a little TMI, but there was only three in the allotment.
• 52:31
  So it is it is all of the you wonderful people that get them.
• 52:34
  No, yes, you're the. Negotiator.
• 52:37
  You're the business manager. You.
• 52:38
  We are, Yeah. Well, but that's yourself here.
• 52:41
  No, I no, no, this is great. You guys are on camera all the
• 52:44
  time and you guys should be sporting them and they'll be
• 52:46
  showing up shortly and it's going to be a wonderful thing.
• 52:49
  But but two of you chose one model and and one of you chose a
• 52:53
  different model. So it would there's there's
• 52:55
  variety. By that in the near future, no,
• 52:57
  no, I know that we're going to have watches available to win.
• 53:00
  So I think we'll first competition, so Michael wins it.
• 53:04
  Not at all, not at all. No, we do need to talk about
• 53:06
  that, you know, to our dear listeners and our fans and the
• 53:09
  people that are, you know, subscribing and again
• 53:11
  commenting, please comment, let us know what we should talk more
• 53:13
  about, less about things we could do more for you.
• 53:16
  There's going to be some giveaways coming up.
• 53:18
  We don't have all the details just yet.
• 53:20
  They are going to be wonderful Sheffield watches that you get
• 53:21
  to choose from. So bear with us, keep listening,
• 53:24
  keep tuning in and we will get the details to you on our
• 53:27
  socials and also over the air so you can participate and put a
• 53:31
  wonderful, wonderful, like just a good product and a great price
• 53:35
  point on your wrist very soon, but for free.
• 53:38
  Yeah, no, it's Spike. Farrison shared a video couple
• 53:42
  of days ago and it was Car Week two years ago and it was Jerry
• 53:46
  Seinfeld talking about a Sheffield watch.
• 53:50
  His first watch as a kid was a Sheffield watch and he now has
• 53:53
  one of the more modern ones. So we're obviously in good
• 53:56
  company. But going back to it, I think
• 53:58
  Lindsay went for a pink face dial, which I think is a GMT.
• 54:02
  I think you're wrong, Ryan. You went for the same as me, but
• 54:06
  what did you go? For and why it's the rally.
• 54:08
  It's just a watch that so it looks a lot like the the tack on
• 54:11
  an old 356, right. I'm actually gonna give mine to
• 54:14
  a friend. So I'm gonna gift mine only
• 54:16
  because it's a friend that's been very good to me and we just
• 54:19
  want to do that for him. But I it's the one I'd also pick
• 54:22
  for myself right now. It's just a it's just a classic
• 54:24
  looking watch. I mean it definitely has the
• 54:25
  motorsport vibe going on too. So yeah, that's the one you
• 54:28
  picked as well. Yeah, very, very different.
• 54:31
  So I just, I just liked it because it was completely
• 54:33
  different to anything else like I'd seen.
• 54:35
  And, you know, I like an individuality.
• 54:37
  Even though Ryan's friend will be rocking the same walk.
• 54:40
  Well, someone we all know so. But there's a good, there's a
• 54:43
  good selection of different looks and vibes, even with the
• 54:46
  with the SDR stuff, the Spike stuff.
• 54:49
  So it's like this, it's there's something for anybody.
• 54:50
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 54:53
  And they make wonderful gifts. So buy them and give them to
• 54:55
  your friends, as Ryan's doing. Yes, they.
• 54:58
  Do and all three of us and Lindsay are big watch people.
• 55:02
  Michael, any watch stories from ownership of various watches?
• 55:05
  Oh my God, I am up. I'm going to meet you as a.
• 55:07
  Serious one versus when I get to Ryan and we'll talk about Ryan's
• 55:10
  one which. Is nice I'm I'm I'm up to 27
• 55:14
  yeah I'm up to 27 of almost all you know a wide variety of makes
• 55:19
  and models. I think that if I'm going to
• 55:22
  impart anything in this is that the best watch for the deal out
• 55:26
  there is a Seiko 5 like because for a couple 100 bucks, much
• 55:31
  like a much like a Sheffield for two $300, the Sheffield or a
• 55:34
  Seiko 5 will do anything you needed to do for as long as you
• 55:37
  needed to do it. And you know, they've made Seiko
• 55:40
  fives for a million years. You know, Jay's reviving
• 55:43
  Sheffield stuff. But there's just there's a
• 55:45
  there's a face for anything meaning like you want a
• 55:47
  different look, you want a dressy look, you want a sporty
• 55:49
  look, you want a rugged look. You know, there's just there's,
• 55:52
  there's good watches at a price point, but you know, something
• 55:55
  that you want to have and it's dependable.
• 55:56
  It's a Seiko or a Sheffield. And it's like, you know.
• 56:00
  Seiko have just put the middle finger up to a very famous watch
• 56:03
  make, Swiss watch make because they've done a collaboration
• 56:06
  with Pepsi. So you can make.
• 56:09
  A Seiko 5 Pepsi edition they're. Doing a limited.
• 56:12
  Edition of them and we know that Pepsi in the trade is a
• 56:15
  different manufacturing, different type of watch, but
• 56:19
  they've got an official on it. Well, looks doesn't fuck around
• 56:21
  so this will be interesting. There's me trying to be coy and
• 56:25
  not name any other brands. If I had to pick one brand maybe
• 56:31
  not to tick off, that might be the.
• 56:33
  Here we go. And Ryan, you bought a fan,
• 56:36
  Arai, is that right? That's very behind this.
• 56:39
  Spot yeah, yeah oh God, you got a good memory uh back when I was
• 56:43
  a younger man, you know, I was into Rolexes and tutors, but you
• 56:46
  could also get a Rolexer tutor for about 1/3 of what you what
• 56:49
  you can now and and I always wanted to try a pan rye but they
• 56:52
  were still kind of catching on and some of you listening have
• 56:55
  heard this story but plenty of you have not and so one day at
• 57:00
  work I decided that I couldn't spend the 3500 on a real
• 57:03
  Panorai, but I could certainly swing 350 on a on a faux Panorai
• 57:07
  and I piled one up at. Panorai.
• 57:10
  From a place called replica house Haus so you know it's
• 57:14
  Europeanish and and legit and you know this was this was a lot
• 57:19
  you know this was 20 plus years ago.
• 57:20
  So, you know, you just kind of send, send it sent your mouth,
• 57:23
  your sent your money out, almost said send your mother out into
• 57:28
  the ether. You sent your money out into the
• 57:29
  ether and you never quite, you know, knew what was going to
• 57:32
  happen then and and a few weeks passed and I thought, oh man,
• 57:36
  I've been burned. This was, you know, but but the
• 57:38
  place had like 500, you know, five star reviews.
• 57:41
  But eventually I'm in my office in the mail person comes around.
• 57:46
  That is the person that would bring the mail.
• 57:50
  She's a woman. Go.
• 57:51
  Figure out. There's this big padded
• 57:58
  drinking. What's going on?
• 57:59
  I'm just getting old. Maybe drinking.
• 58:01
  Yeah, Little. Rockets, then.
• 58:04
  I was out of the art backyard and I'm aging into my Mr. Miyagi
• 58:10
  stage of. Life where I'm painting fences.
• 58:12
  No, I'm just, well, I, I did that a couple weeks ago,
• 58:14
  actually. I'm just out wandering, you
• 58:16
  know, with a, with a, with a garden shears, you know, just,
• 58:19
  you know, trimming things here and there, reminiscing, you
• 58:21
  know, mumbling to myself about the good old days.
• 58:23
  But. Just don't be just don't be Don
• 58:25
  Corleone and Godfather 2. Don't be out in the in the
• 58:28
  tomato patch and, you know, running around and you don't
• 58:31
  remember. Oh.
• 58:31
  God, I've never seen Godfather Two.
• 58:33
  Oh my God. All right, never mind.
• 58:36
  Don Corleone doesn't die from getting killed.
• 58:38
  He dies from having a heart attack chasing his grandson
• 58:40
  around in the garden. OK.
• 58:42
  All right, all right, that's a note.
• 58:43
  We'll watch. Killed the whole vibe of the
• 58:44
  podcast moving. On no, no, I'm just, I'm
• 58:47
  embarrassed that I haven't seen. But anyway, if I eventually get
• 58:50
  this padded Manila envelope in the mail and, and it's got like
• 58:54
  85 Chinese stamps, you know, on it and open this thing up and
• 58:58
  inside there is for young people used to be something called a
• 59:01
  desk calculator. And it was a, a calculator that
• 59:05
  would be on your desk that like literally like printed out on,
• 59:07
  on receipt paper, right? You know, and you could add up
• 59:10
  your, your maths, whatever. And I thought, oh man, I, I
• 59:14
  totally got, you know, got burned and I was so disappointed
• 59:16
  because 350 bucks was a lot of money for me.
• 59:19
  It still is, right. And you know, I picked up this
• 59:22
  thing. I'm like, well, hey, I got a
• 59:23
  desk calculator. Open it up.
• 59:25
  And the desk calculator itself seemed a little light and there
• 59:28
  seemed to be something inside. So it was a, it was a shell of a
• 59:32
  calculator, much like, you know, when you go to IKEA and you have
• 59:36
  like those, those shells of computers or televisions that
• 59:39
  they, they have on the furniture.
• 59:41
  And sure enough, this fake panorai watch was inside the
• 59:44
  desk calculator. So I had to borrow a
• 59:46
  screwdriver, open it up and there's this watching.
• 59:48
  Wouldn't you know what this thing looked like?
• 59:50
  This is like a 99 point watch. This looked just like a panorai.
• 59:53
  That's the beautiful thing about a fake Panorai real panarizer,
• 59:57
  pretty basic. And they just utilize a, a, a, a
• 1:00:00
  pocket watch movement and everything is very sort of rough
• 1:00:03
  and, and, you know, there and this thing had a, a display, you
• 1:00:07
  know, back and, you know, and you know, I was wearing real
• 1:00:11
  Rolexes at the time. So it's a little embarrassed to,
• 1:00:13
  to, you know, wear this thing. But I thought this thing looks,
• 1:00:15
  this thing looks pretty authentic, right?
• 1:00:18
  And so I wore it to work for about a week.
• 1:00:20
  I got a couple compliments. And one day we were in an all
• 1:00:23
  office meeting and it was a hot day.
• 1:00:25
  We worked in an old 1930s Art Deco building, was an ad agency,
• 1:00:28
  and we're all sweating a little bit.
• 1:00:29
  Hot day. This thing's on my wrist and my
• 1:00:33
  boss, he said, Ryan, you got a new watch.
• 1:00:37
  Why don't you pass it around so everyone can see it?
• 1:00:39
  OK, So I thought, oh, man, OK. But I was really confident in
• 1:00:43
  this thing, right? I thought this thing would look
• 1:00:44
  legit. And certainly no one in this
• 1:00:46
  room knew more about watches than I did, Right?
• 1:00:48
  Well, what I. Didn't realize is.
• 1:00:50
  This thing had a display back and if you look at a panorai, I
• 1:00:53
  think there's like a panorai base or something similar.
• 1:00:56
  The word panorai was spelled spelled out on the movement and
• 1:00:59
  sort of gold applied letters. On the rotor right on the.
• 1:01:02
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it looked really cool and
• 1:01:05
  stuff. Well, it was such a hot humid
• 1:01:06
  day and this thing was on my wrist and maybe I was stressed.
• 1:01:09
  Whatever put this. Thing up.
• 1:01:11
  And you know, I look at the back and all the little letters that
• 1:01:15
  spelled out panorai had had come loose, had come, you know, the
• 1:01:20
  glue. And.
• 1:01:21
  It was like a like a snow globe. And now here's my boss, like the
• 1:01:26
  guy signs my checks asking for, you know, to check out this
• 1:01:29
  watch. And and it was just one of those
• 1:01:32
  moments where I had to think quick and I just decided to get
• 1:01:34
  up and walk over to show the watch because I just, you know,
• 1:01:39
  all my credibility, everything else right out the window.
• 1:01:42
  Of course, if I was really on my toes, I probably could have said
• 1:01:45
  something like, well, if you paid me more, I wouldn't.
• 1:01:46
  Have to buy well, I was about to say the same thing.
• 1:01:48
  I think this is a missed opportunity because if you
• 1:01:49
  passed it around and say if someone says why is this melting
• 1:01:52
  and say because it's not real because I don't get I've gotten
• 1:01:55
  denied for my last three raises. You know what I mean?
• 1:01:57
  You could have really made a guilt trip in front of
• 1:02:00
  everybody. So you.
• 1:02:01
  Know and and Davis Harrison Dion in Chicago.
• 1:02:04
  That's exactly the truth. But I.
• 1:02:07
  What do you do? Watch.
• 1:02:08
  It I threw it in the trash, come on.
• 1:02:13
  I bet that thing would still run.
• 1:02:15
  I bet it's still. Well, again, kind of you know,
• 1:02:19
  this was this is a rare one off you know where you know it was a
• 1:02:22
  glitch right in the Panera factory and the glue just wasn't
• 1:02:25
  good that day. I mean, it's worth twice, you
• 1:02:26
  know, normal Panera. But anyway, so.
• 1:02:29
  I've just got this vision now of the Italian Navy wearing fake
• 1:02:32
  Panera and all the gold coming up on this season.
• 1:02:36
  You know, you never know. You never know anymore, right?
• 1:02:39
  So anyway, I think those days of the the bad fakes are are done
• 1:02:43
  and I think you've got to be so careful anymore because the
• 1:02:45
  fakes have gotten so good. They've gotten really, if you
• 1:02:48
  want a rabbit hole to go down is the the jeweler watch folks that
• 1:02:53
  are professionals and they put the side by sides down of, you
• 1:02:56
  know, high end brands and and and and the real things are the
• 1:02:59
  fakes and they're they're really good.
• 1:03:01
  But to that end, though, to your point, the fakes can go for 4
• 1:03:04
  digits. I know, you know, so, so you
• 1:03:08
  know, buying second hand, which I'm an advocate of and fan of
• 1:03:11
  you. You always had to do your
• 1:03:13
  homework, of course, and caveat M tour and all that.
• 1:03:15
  But even the fakes now are there's a Wall Street Journal
• 1:03:19
  article not too long ago. Not that has anything to do with
• 1:03:21
  anything, but they did a whole article about the subculture
• 1:03:25
  that are buying those 3 digit, 4 digit fakes handbags, you know,
• 1:03:29
  watching etcetera because they're almost
• 1:03:31
  indistinguishable. And some people go to the web,
• 1:03:35
  the web to like tout the fact that they don't.
• 1:03:37
  They didn't pay, you know, all the money for a Birkin or for a
• 1:03:40
  Daytona or whatever. So I can't do.
• 1:03:43
  It's cultural. I can't.
• 1:03:44
  I can't do. I mean, would you drive a
• 1:03:45
  $60,000 GT 3RS that was indistinguishable from a real
• 1:03:49
  GT3RS? I don't know, man.
• 1:03:52
  I I don't know if anybody's making those.
• 1:03:53
  I don't know if anybody's making those.
• 1:03:54
  But how? But how many?
• 1:03:55
  How? Many guys have got an idea.
• 1:03:57
  How many fake Daytonas were built back in the day?
• 1:03:59
  Convertibles back in the body of Miami Boy so many cloned
• 1:04:03
  Daytonas? Cloned Cloned Testerosus or
• 1:04:07
  American. Cars 2 super bees and other
• 1:04:10
  stuff, right? Oh wow, those are different.
• 1:04:12
  Those drive like most of that junk when you're taking a
• 1:04:16
  Sierra, you know? You're taking.
• 1:04:17
  A Sierra mintage in Sierra and putting a you know, I don't
• 1:04:22
  know, I mean, but what is a kit car these days, right?
• 1:04:25
  I mean, I have had the the pleasure of driving in a super
• 1:04:29
  performance or a, you know, some of these cars that are, you
• 1:04:34
  know, are they replicas or really not?
• 1:04:35
  I mean, there's a debate there with regards to value, but does
• 1:04:39
  the driving experience of a high end superformance car really
• 1:04:43
  take away from the people that own a true Cobra?
• 1:04:46
  I mean, there's an argument to me there, unless it's obviously
• 1:04:49
  a real bad thing. So I don't know, it's a, it's an
• 1:04:51
  interesting, maybe it's a conversation for future podcast
• 1:04:55
  of like, if the, if the experience is 95% for 50% the
• 1:04:59
  money, who, who are you now? And now in a, in an honesty
• 1:05:04
  transparency thing, are you selling it on as a replica or
• 1:05:06
  are you selling it on as a point about people that replicate
• 1:05:09
  Daytonas and super birds and all that?
• 1:05:11
  That's obviously deceitful. But if you're getting 90% of the
• 1:05:14
  driving experience for 50% of the money, I, I, I don't know.
• 1:05:16
  I don't know. Would you buy roof underwear?
• 1:05:20
  No, no, no, I think I could. I'd like to think I could, at
• 1:05:23
  least. The only way in Ford Roof is the
• 1:05:26
  underwear. So I'd like to think I could
• 1:05:27
  afford the underwear. Right.
• 1:05:30
  Well, Roof, if you're listening, you got 3 customers right here.
• 1:05:34
  More importantly, if you do have it, Ryan needs it by Thursday.
• 1:05:41
  See you getting pulled off. Hey, babe, you.
• 1:05:45
  You. You could've just said I bought
• 1:05:47
  new clothes. You brought up some 6 packs.
• 1:05:50
  We didn't ask for that detail. So we're going to, we're going
• 1:05:53
  to bring that up all. Week for a reason.
• 1:05:57
  Well, not boy. Not not to pile on, but if you
• 1:05:59
  bought a fake Panarai, did you buy fake?
• 1:06:02
  Underwear. No, that's the only to this day.
• 1:06:05
  That's the only fake thing I've ever bought.
• 1:06:06
  And I learned my lesson. I cheated only myself.
• 1:06:09
  Lesson learned. But I I learned a lot today.
• 1:06:11
  I think you sold yourself short. I'd love to see that.
• 1:06:13
  I bet that that thing probably still works.
• 1:06:15
  Maybe not well, but it probably still works.
• 1:06:16
  Someone somewhere pulled a fake pan rye out of a wastebasket.
• 1:06:20
  Or it was. The real deal, yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Well, actually. What's your what's your watch
• 1:06:26
  story? You got to.
• 1:06:26
  You got to share your. Oh yeah, you got it.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah. What do you?
• 1:06:29
  It's not a Sheffield. Pokes.
• 1:06:32
  I'm going to poke, but what's? The poke tell us what a.
• 1:06:34
  Poke. Yeah, I'm not familiar with
• 1:06:35
  poke. Tell me about pokes.
• 1:06:36
  I mean, they put on a good show back in the day, the Pokes, but.
• 1:06:39
  Yeah, fairy tale of New York and all that's yes.
• 1:06:43
  So back in the 60s and early 70s when the moon missions were
• 1:06:50
  taking place and flights to space, etcetera.
• 1:06:52
  We all know that Omega signed a partnership with NASA and the
• 1:06:58
  moon watch became the speed master, became the official
• 1:07:02
  watch of astronauts from the US, right?
• 1:07:05
  Well, there was a gentleman called Colonel Pogue who took
• 1:07:11
  his official mean watch to space, but also had been
• 1:07:16
  training with a Seiko. So an automatic Seiko, Seiko
• 1:07:20
  Seiko, an automatic Seiko. And he had, when he took his
• 1:07:26
  flight to the space, he had this watch in his sock.
• 1:07:30
  He hit it. So he had been training with
• 1:07:33
  this Seiko, had to wear the official watch of NASA, went up
• 1:07:38
  to the up to space and his official watch, his Omega broke.
• 1:07:43
  So he had to then rely on his Seiko.
• 1:07:45
  And these aren't expensive watches.
• 1:07:48
  Bruce Lee had one of a different kind, but in a different face.
• 1:07:53
  But I was talking to a friend of mine a few years ago and he was
• 1:07:55
  like, well, if you're going to do a watch collection and you,
• 1:07:57
  you know, you should have a poke.
• 1:07:59
  So that got me going. Well, what's a poke?
• 1:08:01
  And my dad said, I've got my old watch in the cupboard and I'm
• 1:08:05
  like, what is it? And he's like, oh, it's a Seiko.
• 1:08:07
  So it turned out to be a poke. And it's, it's a $500 watch, but
• 1:08:14
  it was broken. So I went and sent it off and
• 1:08:17
  probably paid about $800.00. So more than the watch was worth
• 1:08:20
  to get it meticulously repaired. And now I've got it and it's a
• 1:08:24
  sentimental timepiece and I've got a poke.
• 1:08:28
  And an even better. Story.
• 1:08:30
  Yeah, what else are you hiding away?
• 1:08:33
  No, that's amazing. That's a great story and an even
• 1:08:36
  more magnificent like, you know, setup like that's that's
• 1:08:39
  awesome. Congrats, I'm now going to I'm
• 1:08:41
  going to look this up. I I love the story.
• 1:08:43
  I mean, your your personal story is amazing and even adds to it.
• 1:08:46
  And I I want to look this watch up because now I kind of want to
• 1:08:48
  acquire one because it kind of it it fills out, you know, trio
• 1:08:52
  that I have because I have a speedmaster.
• 1:08:54
  I did, I did buy AI bought a Snoopy, the new Snoopy Swatch
• 1:09:01
  because they're just kind of fun.
• 1:09:02
  They just came out yesterday with the with the mood phase.
• 1:09:04
  And so it hasn't arrived yet. But I, I love I I I as a space
• 1:09:09
  fan, I think that's that's a great story.
• 1:09:11
  That's a wonderful story. Thank you for sharing.
• 1:09:12
  Yeah. Yeah, cool.
• 1:09:14
  Watches, Cool watches. Yeah, it's a definitely 1 you
• 1:09:18
  should have in your collection if you think about some sort of
• 1:09:19
  theme around space. And I think Bullover is another
• 1:09:23
  one. So that was the Russian
• 1:09:24
  equivalent, I think, when it came to space.
• 1:09:27
  Really. Okay, yeah, there's a whole
• 1:09:30
  rabbit hole you can go down in terms of watches that have been
• 1:09:33
  to space. Right, I'm surprised.
• 1:09:35
  Have you done a Porsche design? And I don't like an old IWC I.
• 1:09:38
  Never have. I never have.
• 1:09:40
  Yeah, I do like IWC and I do like some of the old Porsche
• 1:09:44
  design stuff, but I'm going to fix the income.
• 1:09:48
  Can I do so much? Fair enough.
• 1:09:50
  Well if you if you find one, IWC will still service them.
• 1:09:53
  Don't take it to your local place.
• 1:09:55
  Yeah because the courts move the there are a couple that are
• 1:09:59
  automatic, but most of them are courts.
• 1:10:01
  And if it doesn't, If it doesn't work, IWC, you can actually send
• 1:10:04
  it in and they will actually fix it from the factory because the
• 1:10:07
  local people don't have access to the parts.
• 1:10:08
  So it's nice when much like a Porsche or a Mercedes or
• 1:10:11
  whatever, when there's continuation and you can
• 1:10:13
  actually enjoy the thing. Dan, I've made that mistake 1000
• 1:10:16
  times, spending more on the, on the servicing or the
• 1:10:19
  refurbishment than I did on the watch itself.
• 1:10:21
  But at the end, they're all you know, it's, it's wonderful.
• 1:10:24
  It's a wonderful thing to have and more important, it's a
• 1:10:25
  wonderful thing to use. I know I don't have anything on
• 1:10:27
  right now, but you know, when the shepherds come in.
• 1:10:30
  Well, but when the shepherds come in and like, you know, just
• 1:10:33
  we need to wear them, wear them like the cars, put 1000 cars as
• 1:10:36
  we talk about the tag in a second, But more importantly,
• 1:10:38
  where your watches and and and just go out and enjoy them.
• 1:10:41
  They're doing you no good. Things die of boredom, People,
• 1:10:44
  items, cars, they die of boredom.
• 1:10:46
  So go use them. Yep.
• 1:10:48
  Go wear them, Go wear them. I think that is probably a show.
• 1:10:52
  So before we go, if there are any porch pirates listening in
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  the Denver area, please give Ryan a break because he needs
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  those underpants for garlic. So that's the first thing,
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  Lindsay, we look forward to seeing you next week.
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  Absolutely. We miss you.
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  We miss you this week and from me, Michael and Ryan always be
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  driving and we will be back next week with some stories from Car
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  Week.