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133. American Murder: Gabby Petito Part 1 · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Mess and the True
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  Speaker 1: Crump Podcast. I Don't Care, here's do say. Heystu, Hey,
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: all right, we're back this week and we are actually
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  Speaker 1: going to be covering the new Netflix documentary, The Gabby
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  Speaker 1: Patito One, because I watched it. I watched all three
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  Speaker 1: episodes and I was so angry, so I had to
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  Speaker 1: have to get my feelings out.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta get your feels out.
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  Speaker 1: That's why my feels out, because I guess during this
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  Speaker 1: timeframe I was I think I was, you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: been pregnant for like fourteen years. I think this is
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  Speaker 1: one of those times where I was. I missed a
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  Speaker 1: lot while I was pregnant all those times, the first
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  Speaker 1: two times because it was like COVID and you know,
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  Speaker 1: having children and stuff, and I didn't follow a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these things, so I didn't really I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: was aware of this, but I didn't follow it at
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  Speaker 1: the time, so I was unaware of most of this.
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  Speaker 1: The detail tells Drink that we're going on everything. So anyways,
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  Speaker 1: the Netflix documentary is really good, so I would suggest
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  Speaker 1: watching that. But we're going to cover all three episodes,
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  Speaker 1: and technically one of the crimes did occur in Florida,
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  Speaker 1: so it is still southern.
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  Speaker 2: So is that what you're going with? That's what I'm
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  Speaker 2: going that's what you're going to try and sell.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So if anybody comes at me and was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's not even southern, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So Southern true crime road trip, how's that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did do the We were going to do
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  Speaker 1: road trips a long time ago. If I mean we've
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  Speaker 1: been doing this for seven years, I mean, that's insane.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't have that many episodes to show for it.
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  Speaker 2: But wow, we took a two and a half year.
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  Speaker 1: Break anyway, So back at when we first started, we
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  Speaker 1: did do a road trip. Because sometimes I see things
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  Speaker 1: and I want to cover, but they're not in the South.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can't talk about that one. But
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  Speaker 1: it's like, so we might start doing these more often
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  Speaker 1: some road trips do most of them will be in
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  Speaker 1: the South, but then occasional road trip like that one
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  Speaker 1: guy that episode I saw that I wanted to cover
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  Speaker 1: out in California, the guy that saved the lady and
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  Speaker 1: then he ended up killing the fiance. And yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: was featured on like a dateline episode before.
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  Speaker 2: And then he as a.
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  Speaker 1: Hero and then yeah, he actually tried to shoot somebody.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean that I want to cover that one
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  Speaker 1: because that's like crazy, you know. So yep. Anyway, so
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  Speaker 1: we're going to cover all three episodes of this and
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  Speaker 1: Jinks stop it. Jinks has entered the room. He's trying
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  Speaker 1: to be annoying. But we want to thank everybody on
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  Speaker 2: I will get right on that.
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  Speaker 1: I know you hate when I talk about this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but this is the business do. This is the business side.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't hate it. Yeah, I mean I'm just bored.
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  Speaker 2: I just fell asleep.
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  Speaker 1: Well you're boring. You took a part at gazebo today.
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  Speaker 1: How you're boring?
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  Speaker 2: And then I gotta sand it and stay in it
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  Speaker 2: and put it back together.
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  Speaker 1: I know I would. I would uh not use to
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  Speaker 1: do that with my time, although I got real into
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  Speaker 1: like cleaning the walls today at theountains. I'm not more,
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  Speaker 1: much more exciting. I got me one of those swiffer.
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  Speaker 1: I never I've always used like a regular swiffer, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the swiffer wet jed or whatever. But I bought
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  Speaker 1: me one of those swift fer like wet dry things,
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  Speaker 1: and it has changed my life. Like I cleaned every
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  Speaker 1: single wall in this god forsaken open floor plan house. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: whoever invented open floor plans can fucking go to hell.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I feel about them. I hate open floor plans.
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  Speaker 1: There is no delineation between rooms, so you never feel
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  Speaker 1: like your house is cleaned, because if you start cleaning
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  Speaker 1: one room, you have to clean this whole giant ass space.
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  Speaker 1: But our next house do we will not. I want
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  Speaker 1: I want rooms, I want I want walls. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want this open floor clan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wife shit. I didn't like the first house we
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  Speaker 2: bought that had open floor plan, yeah, the second house.
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  Speaker 1: The problem is that all the houses these days are open.
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  Speaker 1: That's all they build now is open floor plans. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And I think I think if people are really honest
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  Speaker 1: with themselves, they'd be like, no, I don't actually like
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  Speaker 1: an open floor plan, if they really really did some
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  Speaker 1: soul searching. They'd be like, it was better we had walls.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when you got a twelve hundred square foot home,
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  Speaker 2: you need an open floor plan.
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  Speaker 1: So it seems like, well, yeah, I mean, well, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I guess I could still do for a wall.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, the problem with the open floor plan is
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  Speaker 1: you can't just clean the kitchen walls and the floor.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you have to just continue the whole space.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a paint issue in the kitchen, like
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  Speaker 1: you say you want to change the color of paint
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen, you can't do that. Or in the
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  Speaker 1: living room you.
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  Speaker 2: Can, especially because you don't know what the paint code is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Or if you have a issue with like the
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  Speaker 1: like some maybe you had some damage, some water damage
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. You got to paint the whole damn space.
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  Speaker 1: You can't just paint just the kitchen or the living
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  Speaker 1: room or whatever. So anyways, that's my rant about open
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  Speaker 1: floor plans and how I hate them. Good rant, All right,
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  Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and get into uh this week's
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  Speaker 1: episode out of Technically Partially Florida about Gabby Potito.
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  Speaker 2: I think it happened in southern Wyoming, didn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's a Southern either, all right, So this one's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit different because again, we are
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  Speaker 1: covering the actual Netflix documentary, so it's not like our
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  Speaker 1: normal episodes. It's gonna be it's gonna be like our
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  Speaker 1: Lacy Peterson one that we did, and we still needed
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  Speaker 1: a third episode on that, and I promise we will
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  Speaker 1: for the Patreons. I promise at some point. So we
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  Speaker 1: start the documentary with Gabby's mom, Nicole, and she's pregnant
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  Speaker 1: and they are obviously this is way back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: They are talking about Gabby being born on March nineteenth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, and they named her Gabrielle Venora Pita
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  Speaker 1: Petito Petita Patito. Now, just six months after Gabby was born,
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  Speaker 1: her parents went on to separate, and it seemed like
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  Speaker 1: it was a mutual agreement and they both remained big
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  Speaker 1: parts of Gabby's life. They did on the documentary. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't act like there was any animosity or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: They just kind of were like, Okay, this isn't we're young,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't for us for us to be together.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: But they would be.
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  Speaker 2: If they were to talk about their own relationship falling
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  Speaker 2: apart while they're talking about their daughter murder. I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be even if there was animosity, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: talk about it during this Netflix documentary about their daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways. I'm sure it wasn't. I'm sure it wasn't all
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  Speaker 1: you know, rainbows and unicorns. But they seemed to get
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  Speaker 1: along and well enough to both be in I guess
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  Speaker 1: the most important thing is they were both part of
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  Speaker 1: Gabby's life, like one of the parents didn't just ghost
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  Speaker 1: on it, you know. The situation now, Gabby was as
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  Speaker 1: a child, was very loud and full of energy from
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  Speaker 1: the start. She reminds me of ours. She reminded me
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  Speaker 1: of our little Poots.
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  Speaker 2: Too, poof that scream.
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  Speaker 1: Our little feral baby that we have. Now, it appears
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  Speaker 1: that her parents remarried while she was young, and both
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  Speaker 1: step parents seem to be active parts of her life.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed, especially the step dad, was very big in
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  Speaker 1: Gabby's life. Now. Gabby was gifted in art from an
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  Speaker 1: early age, and they would hand her markers and she
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  Speaker 1: would just kind of draw these like the most intricate pictures.
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  Speaker 1: And she was just a natural, you know, like some
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  Speaker 1: people are like that, Like one of my brothers is
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  Speaker 1: like that. I mean, I can't draw a stick figure,
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  Speaker 1: but he could just sit there and just draw, like
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  Speaker 1: from a young age. It's just, you know, some people
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  Speaker 1: have it in some some people I do not have it.
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  Speaker 1: I do not have it either. Now, a friend of
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  Speaker 1: Gabby's and Brian's was talking about how they were in
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  Speaker 1: a group of mainly guy friends and her and Gabby
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  Speaker 1: were pretty much the only girls. Now, she said, they
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  Speaker 1: hung out with the cooler, older guys, and Brian, the
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  Speaker 1: future star of our episode, was one of those cool guys.
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  Speaker 1: But they were not They were not cool if you
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  Speaker 1: asked me. They look like losers to me. But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: but as young high school girls, I guess they thought
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  Speaker 1: because they were a couple of years older than them,
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  Speaker 1: they thought that they were cool. Now, Brian was living
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  Speaker 1: out of his car and basically just crashing on people's couches,
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  Speaker 1: and the friend of Gabby and Brian's told Brian that
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  Speaker 1: he could stay at her parents' house because they had
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  Speaker 1: an extra bedroom. Hopefully she got her parents okay, now, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring this loser to come stay at
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  Speaker 1: our house, Mom and dad. Now, Brian seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: trying to make something happen with this friend, but she
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  Speaker 1: claims that she saw him more as a brother and
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  Speaker 1: nothing happened, although I found she was a little bit
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  Speaker 1: giddy when talking about him sto to this day when
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  Speaker 1: she knows how dolls all went down, she got she
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  Speaker 1: would be like kind of giggle and stuff when she
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  Speaker 1: talk about him, and I'm like, what is wrong with you?
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  Speaker 1: Like she was giggling. See, oh, he had a crush
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  Speaker 1: on me, and I told him we were just friends.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, you know what he did. You know
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  Speaker 1: who he is at this point, and you're all giddy
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  Speaker 1: and alleged, no, not allegedly, Stuart, what is wrong with you?
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  Speaker 1: So Brian. He then moved to Long Island in March
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  Speaker 1: in March of twenty nineteen, and this is where he
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  Speaker 1: says he sees Gabby leaving a deli and he ran
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  Speaker 1: up to her and embraced her and described it as
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  Speaker 1: love at first sight. So I guess they made it
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  Speaker 1: like that was the first time they'd seen each other,
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  Speaker 1: but so, I don't know, it seemed a little starry
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  Speaker 1: eyed for me. I'm not really into that.
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  Speaker 2: And that what you thought was the first time you
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  Speaker 2: saw me? No, ran up your life.
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  Speaker 1: No, So Gabby says that she felt the same way,
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  Speaker 1: but was still not She was just still wasn't really
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  Speaker 1: telling her parents. I don't know, she was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like just hiding something from her parents. I guess. Now
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  Speaker 1: the parents liked Brian for the most part, but at
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  Speaker 1: this point he looked to me, he looked like a
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  Speaker 1: thirty four year old accountant. He was like he had
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  Speaker 1: like his head shape, but it was because he was
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  Speaker 1: going bald already. Yay, hey, hey, anyways, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: he I mean, Gabby was very young and pretty and
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  Speaker 1: seemed full of life, and Ryan seemed weird, awkward and
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  Speaker 1: like he should like he would be the guy who'd
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: bring like Brussels sprouts to the office and.
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  Speaker 2: Heat him up in the way or fish.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so I mean to me, it was like he
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  Speaker 1: definitely outkicked his coverage too, if you will, if you
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  Speaker 1: say now. She enjoyed documenting her life on TikTok because
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: this is current time, so TikTok was around and other
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  Speaker 1: social media sites, so there is a lot of video
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  Speaker 1: of her and Brian, which makes this even more you know, surreal,
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  Speaker 1: because you actually have so much I mean, anybody who's
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  Speaker 1: murdered from like starting from like twenty I would say,
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and on. There's so much if there have
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  Speaker 1: any social media presence, there's so much video in.
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  Speaker 2: Everything of him besides the facebooks or whatever. And then
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: you have the youtubes, the tiktoks and yeah, all the
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: other things, the podcasts. Yes, oh god, what happens when
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: we die? If we could quit paying for it, they'll
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  Speaker 2: just we'll delete everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so's it's kind of crazy because there's just
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  Speaker 1: so much footage of them and them recording themselves with
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  Speaker 1: their phone, not even stuff they just posted on social media,
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  Speaker 1: but just the I mean, think about how many pictures
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  Speaker 1: and videos we have in our phones that people never
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: had that in the past. I mean, they had like
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: their big clunky video camera that they'd haul out, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't like now where you can literally record your
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: entire day. I mean, I think I have a video
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  Speaker 1: from probably every single day of my life for years
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: now at this point, like you usually you are pulling
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: your phone out to record something, especially if you have kids.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, it's kind of just interesting that they were
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  Speaker 1: able to have so much video footage of them.
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  Speaker 2: In the middle of twenty nineteen, they decided what seemed
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  Speaker 2: like on a whim, to move to Florida to move
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  Speaker 2: in with Brian's parents, which seems like a fantastic idea.
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  Speaker 1: Well they're young. It's I guess like twenty or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how old Brian was. He think he
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: was a couple of years older.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not great pushing forty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it appeared that they just planned to do this
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  Speaker 2: one day and then the next day Brian quit his job.
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  Speaker 2: They took off from New York and Gabby's either a
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  Speaker 2: Nissan CenTra or a Hyundai Sonata. Either way, it was
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  Speaker 2: a junker. I guess that they were lucky to make
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: it down there.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Stu had to go look up. I couldn't remember
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  Speaker 1: what kind of car. They said. Okay, it was basically like,
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  Speaker 1: this car does not look like it could make it.
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  Speaker 1: It was what the family's like, are you really going
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  Speaker 1: to drive all that ways in this car? And they
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  Speaker 1: loaded up and they I mean like literally they they
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  Speaker 1: said they decided one day they were going to do it,
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  Speaker 1: and then the next day they quit their jobs, and
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  Speaker 1: then the next day they left.
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  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're youngs do I guess do it while
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: you're young? You're free spirited. I mean, we don't know
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  Speaker 1: such a lifestyle.
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  Speaker 2: No we don't. Well we did. We just load up
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  Speaker 2: and we're like, come on, family, let's go. We're out
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  Speaker 2: going to Christmas markets. Gabby and Brian documented their journey,
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  Speaker 2: and they seemed to be just living in.
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  Speaker 1: A bubble, like their own little world.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well they're young, Kara, Yes, they're young. Now, the
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  Speaker 2: friend of theirs, which we don't have a name on
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  Speaker 2: what I call her Giggles.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to look. I can't remember them ever even
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  Speaker 1: saying her name or putting it underneath her. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: put underneath their thing. They just said Brian and Gabby's friends.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna call her Giggles because that's so she
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  Speaker 1: would do. She'd giggle all lovey dovey like she was
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  Speaker 1: a schoolgirl whenever she talked about Brian, which I found
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  Speaker 1: very disturbing seeing as how this all played out, because.
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  Speaker 2: After the fact, yes, Brian and Gabby were both loving
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: the beach life and they seem happy. But after they
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: were living with Brian's parents for a while, his mother, Roberta,
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  Speaker 2: started exhibiting territorial behavior over Brian, and she wasn't being
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  Speaker 2: very kind of Gabby either. Roberta got so upset one
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: night because nobody was focusing on her pie.
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  Speaker 1: After they just described her behavior. I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 1: pie they were talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, And I'm telling somebody got upset about some cookies
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  Speaker 2: around here one night.
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  Speaker 1: No, Stewart, No, because okay, I bake a lot of
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: stuff around here. I've been practicing cookie recipes and everything, and.
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  Speaker 2: I've had your cookies.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Yes. Anyways, I brought some food. So work started providing
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: lunch for us out of under duress. They didn't want to,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: but they did. Anyways, they started providing free lunch for us.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: It's a whole long story, but we won't get into it.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Because I like my four one K and insurance. So
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  Speaker 1: I brought it home and the meal had a cookie
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  Speaker 1: and in a chocolate chip cookie, and so I gave
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  Speaker 1: it to our daughter because I just thought he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I gave the meal to stew because I wasn't hungry
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  Speaker 1: and us in everything, and he left the cookie in
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  Speaker 1: the bag, and so I saw the cookie. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I saw, I gave it to our daughter and he
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: comes in. He's like, I was saving that cookie. I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna eat that cookie. And I got so mad
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  Speaker 1: because you don't know how many chocolate chip cookies I
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  Speaker 1: bake in this house and he never eats them. But
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, some bitch from some food truck
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  Speaker 1: offers him a cookie.
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  Speaker 2: That's how they got me in the van.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was. Yeah, I was mad because he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna eat that cookie. I'm like, you never
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  Speaker 1: eat the cookies I bake around here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I do.
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  Speaker 1: No, you don't, no, because I force fed it to
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you so he could try it. Oh well, I on anyways, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I did get upset about that cookie. So I
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  Speaker 1: understand where Roberts.
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  Speaker 2: Long story short, her and Robert her on the same page.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'll just say if anybody's on like social media
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: and everything, I'll just say she's giving hashtag boy mom vibes.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, like those ladies that are on
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok and they're like, well, there's a
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: whole group they're like hashtag boy mom. And then they'll
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: say really creepy things like uh I no, no daughters ever,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: or no woman's ever going to be able to take
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the place of me and blah blah blah, like real
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: possessive over their sons, like little kids, like when they're little.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: It's very disturbing. So Roberta was like.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: That, you think I do think she was possessive over Brien.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Roberta's attitude and behavior continued to the point that Gabby
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: was uncomfortable even talking to Roberta and she was complaining
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: to Brian about it. The mom even changed Gabrielle's address
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: back to her mom's. Well that's her name, I know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: but Gabby's name. Gabby's address back to her mother's in
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Long Island without telling Gabby, which made things even more
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: awkward between Roberta and Gabby and Brian.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, I guess she had forwarded all of
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: her to the home in Florida, and then Roberta quickly
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: undid that. I guess she got a few things in
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the mill and she's like nope, and she sent it
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: saying that the address was now in Yeah, I won't
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: be back in Long Island.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just tell these people to move out
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and get their own damn place.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Because she didn't care, she didn't want them to get
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: move out and get their own place. She wanted Gabby
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to move out and get She was very possessive over
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: her son. She's one of these weird moms that's like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: has boys and hers weird about them. It's uncomfortable. So
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: she didn't want them to get out. She wanted Gabby
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to get out.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: So this was her like, hey, never come back, bitch.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: You don't live here, just me and my boy.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's just kind of like old Norman.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what she learned. Yes. Now, in early twenty twenty,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: they talk about Gabby meeting this girl named Rose Davis
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: on Bumble for Friends. So I guess it's like dating
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: but for friends. So basically it's I think Bumble is
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a dating app, but I'm not real versed in the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: in the dating world, but I guess you could do
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: it just for making friends in an area. So how
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you meet friends is online, just like you would meet
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: and future boyfriend. So she meets Rose and they become
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: fast friends. They would just kind of be silly. They
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: would make tiktoks and just hang out. I mean Gabby
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: would even ride around Rose work for Dominoes, and they
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: showed her videos of Gabby just riding around in the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: delivery insurance company.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Love that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So she's just riding around with her, He's hanging
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: out and everything, and Rose she kind of felt that
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: there was something off about Brian and she just couldn't
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: put her finger on it, but she just felt that
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: he kind of a dark side. So they show them
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: driving and Brian. So at this point in the documentary
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: when she's talking about his dark side or whatever, they
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: show a video of Brian and Gabby riding around and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Brian's driving and he gives Gabby, I don't know if
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: it was a real gun or a pellet gun, but
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: they're just and hazard just shooting it out of the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: side of the car into the woods to like the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to the swamps of Old Florida. So I don't know
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: if it was a pellet gun or a real gun.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: But that's whenever they were trying to show like the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: dark side that he.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I guess that's just a good country pound right there.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what that dark side is about.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: He had a gun.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Now when together, she would say that, she said that
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Gabby and Brian seemed very happy, but it was when
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Gabby was away from him is when he became like manipulative,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: possessive and they would fight, and she talks about one
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: night she was going to pick Gabby up and Gabby
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: texts her saying, I'm crying. I'm like upset. Me and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Brian got into it, and Brian had actually taken her
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: ID because he didn't want her to go out with Rose.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: They were going line dancing or something, so he actually
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: takes her ID so she couldn't go and get in
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: wherever she was. They were headed to that bar.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Well that's a deck move.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So Brian he would do stuff like this, He would
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: do something like that, kind of possessive, controlling, but then
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: he would quickly do a nice thing for Gabby after
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: getting in arguments with her and doing that mind games,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you know that, basically showing signs of like emotionally abusive
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to her. Shut ups down. Yes, you're so emotionally abused
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and you're with your nice little life you have here
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: m hm, forced into early.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Retirement, separated from my family.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: He always says, I separated from his family because I've
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: moved him ount here to freaking Yeah. Well, you know what,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: it's we're closing, we're closing in our time out here,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it's every day is one day closer to being able
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to move. We do like our house though, that's despite
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the open floor planned.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: We like our backyard.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: We like our backyard and everything. But yeah, we just
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: go on trips a lot. That's why we're always on
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: going traveling is because we live in Middland, Texas. All Right,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So Giggles is back, you know, the one friend is
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: talking about and how he has kind of a dark side,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the one that Gabby's been hanging out with a ton. Well,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Giggles comes back on the documentary to talk about Gabby
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and Brian getting engaged in the woods. They didn't have
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a ring, but a supposedly a firefly landed on Gabby's
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: finger while he was proposing, and they felt like it
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: was just meant to be since nature gave them a sign.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: This is who we're dealing with. Due, Okay, they thought
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it was magical and everything like that, and the way
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the friends describes it as you know, just they felt
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: like it was fate and like I said, magical.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: So they went to the wood smoked a lot of po.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think they did stuff like that. Yeah, anyways,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: but the way that the friend Giggles, you know, is
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: talking about it. She just goes like just waxing poetically
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: about how magical it was and everything, and I'm thinking, bitch,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you know how this turned out? Like what are you doing.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: It?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Just like it's insane to me that she knows, like.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: If only that firefly hadn't landed, maybe they wouldn't have
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: thought it was so magical, but.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It was the way she just it's way, Giggles, just
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: how she tells the story. She's just still, you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: has this.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: How it ends when everybody else is watching the video
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and go, girl, run run, get away from him.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Now even though you don't, I mean, I know, you're
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: still you still have to talk about it in the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: documentary as if you know they're asking you questions about it,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: but you can. You don't have to be so happy
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and everything, like you actually did think it was a
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: magical moment between them. But anyway, So that's what Giggles
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: is telling us that story.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Classic Giggles, Classic Giggles. Gabby's family and friends actually found
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: out that they were engaged from the gram or Instagram
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: for you old folks out.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: There, Well that's the modern that's the modern day method
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: now would be TikTok.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I guess yes. Now. Gabby didn't really want to talk
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: about her engagement very much, and she seemed less and
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: less excited about it. As time went on. They mainly
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: talked about their travel plans and that they wanted to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: live this van life. She said. Wedding and baby plans
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: got pushed back and they were going to be focusing
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: on this van life. Gabby worked fifty hours a week,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: including working at a taco bell where she would tell
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: customers to have a taco tastic day.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently she just she just she would tell the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Rose Girl, the friend of hers down to Florida, that
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: she just loved working at taco bell and saying fantastic day. God,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Gabby's a free spirit, Okay, that's just who she is.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: She's she finds joy in the mundane.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Everybody else just would want to kill themselves and she's
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: just having a blast.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Interacting, just making the best out of whatever situation.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Is she making the best or is she just living
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: her best life? Well, I mean, I mean to say,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: you're going to make the best of something. You know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: it's a ship deal, and you're like, Okay, I'm going
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: to make the best of this. Maybe she's just like
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: this is great, this isn't bad at all.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, maybe I can't bell is anything other than like, what.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Are you going to be like have a taco tastic day.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not going to. I will say she
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at this as an older person now, But
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I worked at a pizza restaurant. I was
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: not but I was not peppy. I was. I did
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: really well because I did my job really well in
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: terms of like tips and stuff. But I was in
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: there in Christopher walk in freezer and.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I was it because you were hungover.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I was hungover a lot, but you know you, sometimes
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: you got to drink together through At those times, I
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: was working like thirty I was working like thirty hours
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a week, and I was taken at that one semester,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I was taking twenty two hours of engineering classes. It
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: was pretty rough so and trying to you know, nurse
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: some pretty healthy drinking habits.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know, I was there.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, it all worked out though, here I am.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, We're in Middland. Back to our story, Carara, Okay, okay,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: long story short, all this to get to the part
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: where the point that Gabby she's just having this great time.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: She knows that she's going to get this band, she's
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: going to go on the road, live this band, live
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: band life, and she's just happy about it all bubbly
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, she had big plans. She was
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: gonna create this the YouTube channel for this, and she's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: really actually, I mean, very smart. I mean those people
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: may I mean, we just watched the or I did
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the Ruby Frank documentary. Those people were making like back
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in the day. I mean when I say back in
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the day, it was like twenty eighteen, so when they
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: took off or whatever, they were getting checks for like
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars a month from YouTube from views.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could make a ton of money off
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of YouTube.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: You do have to sell your soul, Ruby, Yeah, evidently
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: according to what you're telling me about it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a way you could do it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: without selling.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Your soul, but I would hope so. But anyway, so, yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: she had these big plans. They ended up buying a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: twenty twelve four transit, converting it into a mini camper,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and during this time, Gabby was working late and she's
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: hanging out more with Rose when she's not working. Brian's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: getting increasingly jealous, more jealous than he already was, and
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: he starts texting Gabby when they're apart, saying that he
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: was crying in a back and how much he loved her. Now,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: this should have been the red flag.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: She's just an innocent, optimistic girl, though she didn't think
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: anything about what he was doing.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So if I started texting you that I was in
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the bat work, I.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Just said she was a happy, optimistic, young girl. Stewart,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I am an old, bitter bitch, pessimistic and assumes everybody's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: trying to kill me until proven otherwise.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, well so not much has changed in the last
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: fifteen years we've been together.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, so that's where I'm that's my life perspective. I'm
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: never going to tell someone to have a taco tastic day.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: But she is. That's who she is, and that's great.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's she's she's I I'm not gonna say
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I envy those people that can do that, but I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: think they just live with a lighter They just like
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: they don't assume the worst in everybody. So she just
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: assumes he's crying in a bathroom. I see it as
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: manipulative asshole moves, but she sees it as like, oh
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: my god, I've he's so sad.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Now, believe it or not, Kara, Brian even went as
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: far as to call Gabby's mom and tell her that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Gabby was hanging out with very bad people. It was
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: clear that Brian was possessive Gabby and she was pretty naive,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: as Kara said, and she was a bit of a
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: people pleaser. She would text him back, tell him how
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: much she loved him and that she didn't want him
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: to be sad. So this is Brian in a nutshell.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: He's manipulative, little chit stain.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she needed to find somebody else that was like
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you know how they say, like they on well, you
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: don't know, but on Instagram or TikTok, they'll be like
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: my golden Retriever for husband, and it's just like this
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: happy go lucky. What they'd like my golden retriever for
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: husband or boyfriend or whatever. And it's always like this
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: husband or boyfriend that just comes in and he's always
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like excited to see the girlfriend or the wife and
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: like just is just a very like happy go lucky person.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: You know, she needed someone like that. You are not
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: a golden Retriever?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're looking for? You subliminately telling me.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: That if I was to classify you as as a dog,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: here we go, you'd be like an old like Mutt.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, you found a rescue, Yes, like in the pound, Yes,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: senior rescue at the pound.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank god, I don't have to die in her.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not a golden retriever.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: What maybe I am a senior Golden Retriever?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Like you know, my one, my one of my brothers,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: not the one that can draw really well, but the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: other one, he's kind of a golden Retriever. I would say, yeah, yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: he's a bit of a golden Retriever. So she needed
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a golden retriever, not this manipulative like asshole. Definitely like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a he's like a Dalmatian or whatever, or one of
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: those annoying Wymerriners. You know they look all cutese and everything,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: but then they're just no.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be one of them dogs that actually
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: bites you after you turn around.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Which would you try?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if a Wymer Reiner
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: would do that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, a wine Reiner would definitely do.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: It, would attack you when you were looking. I don't
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: think so. I've never had one, but they seemed like
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a nice time.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Well. I worked at a doggy daycare and all the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: wine Riners.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Were I thought they were just higher energy.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: No, they're just like it's that the people next door
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of them.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: They have like two.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe No, I think they rescue them because everybody that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: gets him is like, oh my god, I can't handle
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: this dog.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: See I wanted a pug and til I found out
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: how much they shed and I was like, Nope, not
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: want that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Anyways, moving on from this episode is so long. Anyways,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: moving on from the dogs. Sorry to all the wy
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Mariner owners.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Are we going to talk about what kind of dog
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I think you are?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: No? Okay, what kind of bitch you think I am?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Stick? Wantn't he?
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? Okay? So anyway, so just
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: before they headed off, we gotta get we gotta wrap
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: this up. Stick. We're still not even. We still got
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a long ways to go. So just before they headed
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: off on their big trip, Rose could see that Gabby
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: was starting to wise up to Brian's manipulative ways, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: she was getting tired of it. Again, she is young,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: so she's learning. She's this is her first interaction with
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: somebody like this that she's saying, wait a minute, I'm
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: not really liking how what he's doing. So she starts
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: telling him to stop crying so much and calling her names,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: because during he would call her names and say I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: was crying and blah blah blah, you know, yanking her
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: back and forth, and so she's finally like, I need
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you to stop crying.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: So being such a little bitch, Brian, yes, and.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: That, but she said she tells him that she needs
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: them to stop crying so much, but she also says
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that it's killing her to see him that way. So
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: it's still like, I'm upset. No, I think she was
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: being genuine. I think it did hurt her feelings. Now.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Rose could tell that she was getting frustrated with him,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and it seemed that when Brian realized he was losing Gabby,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: he pushed forward quickly with their trip to get her
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: back to himself so it would just be him and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Gabby on the road.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: She should have told him that were leaving on a Thursday,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and she should have left on a Wednesday with their van. Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I think she did all most of the work on
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the van anyways, like making it into a camper. She's
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: like the one working so hard to get this off
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the ground. And then she was the only one that
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: had the foresight of like, oh, how are we going
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: to afford to like do this. Oh we got to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: film it on YouTube and put it on YouTube to
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: try to make some money. Yeah, Like she's the only
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: one that was.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Kind supsed to love the van life driving around the country.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: If you ain't got a job.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't working remote. I mean they weren't despite
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: of his looks, he was not an.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Accountant, and you can't tell somebody to have a tacotastic
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: day remotely. In June of twenty twenty one, Gabby and
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Brian take off on their band life adventure to go
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: see the country. They first stopped by her parents' house
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: up in Long Island, and according to the parents, they
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: said that Brian was quiet the whole time, but promised
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: to keep their daughter safe liar. Gabby was crying as
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: she left and gave her mom a big hug. It
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: would be the last time she would ever see her
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Gabby began blogging their life, but Brian thought that it
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: was a stupid idea and that you can see how
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: awkward and weird he is in the videos.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gabby's all like fun and showing the van and
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: talking to He's just like this weird, creepy dude in
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the back. Right'd be like if I put Stewell.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Like if you came up with the idea for a
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: podcast and we're like, hey, Stull, we're gonna do this podcast, yes,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and I'd be like, that's stupid and here you are.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Who's going to listen to that?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Evidently nobody. So, Yes, Gabrielle was way more into this.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know because that's her name. Gabby was way
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: more into this than Brian was. He thought it was
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: a dumb idea.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Again, he's stupid because that you need to pay for
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the van life. That's why people have logged their van life.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's like these travelers that blog and blog their travel. Yes,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I hate them, care because I want to be those
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: here I am in Italy. Whoops again, so boring. Gabby
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: even bought a drone to take aerial footage of their trips.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: They showed the raw footage from her filming, and you
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: can see her and Brian, and again he's being awkward.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: He looks like he's an accountant with three children and
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: just gready to eat a bullet.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, how did I get How did I get here?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: How did I get to Midland, Texas?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Because his whole thing with the van life was he
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: just wanted to get Gabby to himself because he obviously
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: was losing her and she was way better than him,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and he didn't he that's what he wanted. But the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: reality is is that you have to be able to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: live and pay for this, and that's what her means
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Well, if she's inner webs, then a bunch of dudes
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: are going to.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Be like, hey girl, Yes, he's not gonna like that
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: her being out there, because then there's gonna be guys
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: message and be like, hey, I heard you're coming through
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: passing through such and such a national park.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Some coffee, yeah, some mushroom coffee. Anyway, you can tell
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: from the footage that she's not exactly happy. She seems frustrated,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: even though she's trying to be upbeatn chirpy, chippy and
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: trying to do this this whole YouTube channel. But he's
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: just kind of bringing down her mood. He's a harshener vibe.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: As the kids say.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, she began filming more of the trip of just
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: herself and less of Brian, and they would still post
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: photos of them happy online. But in the videos she
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: was forced. She seemed like she was forced being happy.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Her happiness was forced.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, it seemed forced. The still shot was them kissing,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: but the video when they played the actual raw footage,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: it's very awkward and you can tell they're just trying
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: to make it appear that they're It's a very similar
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: things happened when we were in Europe.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Stuart, because these children in line, we got a picture
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: and to take Yeah, I.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Mean sometimes you got to do that. Sometimes you just
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: need to get the picture for the moment because you're
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: never going to be standing in front of the Eiffel
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Tower again like this, so you need to get the picture.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: But you may not be the happiest. So I understand that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: You know, you're just trying to get get the photo
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: for the memory, but what goes into actually making the sausage.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: You may not be the best.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Well mean, it's the same attitude we have when we're
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: in the backyard trying to take an Easter photo. Yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: whether we're in the front yard, backyard, or Paris, it's
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the same same vibe.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Well because when you start getting this many but they're
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: just a couple out there, they should be freaking happy,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: you know. They should be like I'm talking about, like
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: when you have a family and you have, like we
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: have three children, not one of them is going to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: be mad. It's always there's always one of them that's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: pissed off. They can't all just be happy at the
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: same time. And if one of them is too happy,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the other one that's pissed off is going to make
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: sure that one feels exactly the same way they do.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: So they're do something to them to make them upset.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: So on August twelfth, but family life is just the best.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I love the little pastards.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: On August twelfth, twenty twenty one, police were called when
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a passerby saw a man hitting a woman. So this
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: is fast forwarding. So we talked about in the doc.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: They talk about the van life and start showing the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: footage and then they're they're skipping to that the day
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: when I think a lot of us saw the only
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: little bit that I saw was this police footage back
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: when this actually happened. So yeah, So the passerby hees
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: tells police that someone was hitting a man was hitting
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a woman, and that they were getting into a Ford
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: transit and they were driving erradically. Now, the police pull
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: over Brian and Gabby, and Gabby was very upset and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: when they asked Brian about him hitting her, he says,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: she just gets worked up and needs to be calmed down.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: This whole like, this whole thing. I get so mad
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: when I watch this is like angers me. This whole
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: footage of these cops and everything like that. So they
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: get Gabby out of the car and she is crying,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: saying that Brian was trying to calm her down, but
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: she's she said, she's normally like a really calm person
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and she never gets upset. She said he was stressing
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: her out and they had a rough morning. Now, the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: police put Gabby in the back the police car and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: they go talk to Brian. Now Brian seems nervous. They
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: bring him out and talk to him. Now he is
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: complete like. So, they get a call from a passer
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: by a witness that says that a man is hitting
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a woman and forcing her into a vehicle.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: M M.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: They go talk to Brian. He makes absolutely zero when
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you play listen to what he says. Not one thing
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: he says makes sense. He was rambling, putting just random
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: words together, and they're like, oh yeah, buddy, I got
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the same problem with my bitch back at home. Like
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: they didn't say that, but they might as well have
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: said that. So he's rambling on. They ask him about
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the scratches. He has some scratches on him, and he
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: says something about her having a cell phone that he
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: locked her. He said he locked her out of the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: car and that she walked away somehow getting the cell
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: phone back back from her. She was recording or something.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: That's how he got the scratches. Again, nothing he says
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: makes sense, but those Keystone cops out there, they seem
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to believe like everything that he's going there. I mean,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: we got Gabby over there, like crying, got blood on
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: her face, she's completely hysterical, and then we got this
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: dumbass loser that someone saw him hitting her. And they're
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: just like, oh yeah, everything seems great. We could totally
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: believe you. Everything's cool. She seems like the aggressor over there.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I can't believe she was attacking you like that. You're
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: lucky to be alive, sir.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They even called him a victim of domestic abuse
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: at one point. Yes.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Again. Plus it gets even better because they got him
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: a room.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, so Gabby, she's rambling and she's crying
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: as well. They asked her about the blood on her
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: face and the marks in her arm, and she said
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: she tells them that she hit him first. And that's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: when the cops call Brian a victim of domestic abuse.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And he just laughs it off and says, I love Gabby.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't have too many complaints about me. Like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: he's just you can tell he's just. He knows that
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: whatever he did was and that he should be in trouble.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I hope she doesn't have any many
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: complaints about me.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go to jail.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: So there's all male cops there, but there's one female
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: cop and she's just as disappointing as they are. She
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: comes to speaks and speaks to Gabby, and Gabby asks
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: if she can have her phone to call her mom
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: her She called Gabby calls her mom, and Gabby's mom
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: tells us that Gabby said that her and Brian had
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: an argument and she said that Brian locked her out
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: of the van and she said it was just over
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: something stupid. Now the cop cops over there, you they
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: got all the you know, the body cam footage. They
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: have this little powwow over there and talk about the
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: safety of Brian and making sure he's safe because he's
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the victim here, and that these They even talk about
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: how these situations can escalate to someone being killed. They
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: tell Gabby that they would normally have taken her to jail,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: but they were working with Brian so that he that
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: from her for then. So they give her the van
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and then they they they're gonna, you know, go help
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Brian get get in a hotel. So the cop tells
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Gabby that she has anxiety and knows it and look
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: at this, this is the female cop. She says, you
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: have anxiety, and look at the situations you're getting yourself
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: into with this with your anxiety and everything. They are joking. Meanwhile,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: while they're over there joking with Brian, and he's being
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: very condescending about Gabby and the cop isn't about women,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I would say in general, the woman cop, like I said,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: is just as disappointing, telling Grabby that she is crying
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: and that silly arguments led to Brian having marks on him, Like,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: disregard the fact that she has marks all over her
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: arm and blood on her face. I mean, it's insane.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: So they take Brian to stay at this like motel,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and ironically it's a motel for domestic abuse victims. So
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: they just put this asshole up in this hotel with
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: all these probably women that are victims of domestic abuse,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and he gets to stay there and they give Gabby
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the van. Now the officer he's again very condescending to Gabby,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: telling her to go take a long, hot shower to
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: calm down, and that that works on his wife. Now
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: he tells the same thing to Brian, saying that Gabby
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: just needs to go take a shower and calm down,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and he's basically got. He's like, I have a wife
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: too that has anxiety and sometimes those meds just don't
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: work and they need a shower.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: M So I send her into the shower.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's like telling Brian all about his wife
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and everything.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: His wife has divorced him by now, So I.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Looked up this cops too, because I'm like, who is
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: this motherfucker? So I look him up. He's had at
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: one point, so he is divorced from that wife or whatever.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: They did try to sue the city and everything over
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: this guy or whatever in the city was able to
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: get him dropped off the lawsuit or whatever. Anyways, he
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't w for the police department anymore, but in the
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: past he's been he's been accused of domestic abuse. And
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: then he also got he was cheating this lady was
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he was cheating on his wife with another lady who
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: was married or whatever, and so somehow he got the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: husband of the lady he was cheating with the arrested
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Something real sketchy. He's just like
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: a douchebag. Now he runs a now he's part of
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: a or he runs a tour guide out in Moab
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever where you pay like him five hundred dollars
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: a day to drive drive you around in a jeep
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: or something like that. So that's what he does now.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: And this is where I told the guy that he
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: needed to tell his girlfriend to take a shower. This
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: is where I told a girl she needed to go
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: take a shower. And as you know, this is where
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I disparage my ex wife right here about telling saying
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: she needed her meds and go take a shower.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically go take a shower. Yeah, this guy's
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: like a douchebag. All of them were. The female cop
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: was disappointing the whole the whole group or whatever. Anyways,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: and they interviewed him, not on the documentary but other
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: news outlets after the whole case of this police officer,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: and he was just you could tell he could. He
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: was just saying he's one of these people that just
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: says like big statements and stuff like that, but doesn't
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: mean what he's saying at all.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: He's strung a bunch of together, a bunch of words. Yeah,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I will hope it came out all right.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, if I'd known if something like this
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: was going to happen to her, I would have followed her.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I would have I would have forgot my vacation to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: go follow her, make sure that she was safe, like
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: stuff like that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Well, if you know it was gonna happen, maybe he
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: could have just arrested Brian On the spot for domestic abuse.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing is that they know that she okay.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: So she says that she hit him first, but they
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: have an eyewitnessed saying that he was hitting her forcing
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: her into a van. He she says that or he
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: admits that he locked her out of her own van
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: that night. I mean, if you have some sort of
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: training in the police department, you can see that this
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: was clearly a domestic area.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, you want to be a cop, get in
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: the car.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: It's a heavy Mormon population up there.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I'll get us some trouble with the Mormons. Then I
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: want to be getting emails.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like a close knit community. So
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's like some I'm wondering how this guy
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: even got to where he was still a cop after
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: some of the stuff he had done.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: It he knew some people, you think, allegedly.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Allegedly don't see us. No, we might want to go
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: up there and take a tour with him one day
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: in moabb I heard it's pretty I will say that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: one of the sister wives, Christine, has a airbnb up
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: in Moebs, so we could go stay at her airbnb
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and then go find this guy and take a tour
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: with him and then not leave him a tip. Be like,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: here's a tip, buddy.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Don't tug on Superman's cape. No, and don't mess around
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: with bad bad Lee Roy Brown.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, anyways, but yes, Christine has a airbnb up
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: in moabb It's a real popping place. Do There's a
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: lot of things happening up there.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to go anyway, back to our story, Karen.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Later that night, Brian and Gabby were back together. Over
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: the next ten days, they camped their way up to
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, Utah, also.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Where some of the Sister Wives live currently.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, that show's gone off there.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: No, it's not gone off the air. They're a No,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: they're all divorced. But they're in a mid season break.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: We still we haven't they they upped them for another season.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Well the right What else have the writers got left
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: in them?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: This isn't Riding Steward. This is a real life in
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: real families.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's not. It's not reality TV. On August twenty second,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Gabby contacted her ex boyfriend Jackson. Brian and Gabby had
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: gotten into an argument and she called him Jackson crying.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: He said that she seemed to want out of the
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: relationship and the situation altogether, but she didn't know how
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: to do that, and that's where this episode.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Ends, yes, fade to black with the ex boyfriend talking
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: about the conversation. So all right, well that's our thoughts
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: on this episode. The cap and Petito. Sorry, we went
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: off the rails this episode very long. We went off
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: the rails.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: You did, yes, you did taco tastic stuff.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't go off the rails. That's what she did.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: How are we not going to talk about chacoastic stude?
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Oh you went off the rails with taco tastic.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: No, we went off the rails probably with the dog stuff.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, anyways, all right, stud do you have a
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: yawn need Jesus?
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do. Of course I do. I always do.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go ahead and get into that. So yeah,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: so in two weeks we'll be back with part two.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna be part two and three. So if
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you have Netflix you can watch it so you can
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: kind of fall alone. I'll follow along and you can
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: tell me if I'm correct about giggles, because that's what
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I feel and that Brian looks like a thirty four
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: year old accountant.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, poor Ol'brian.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: STU didn't mean that, poor old Brian.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: No, that was sarcasm. Okay, for those our listeners that
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: are sarcastically challenged.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: We have we I don't you know what if we
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: had any, they've been weeded out because they've already wrote
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: us a bad review in Exodus.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, we've had plenty of bad reviews that people. It's like,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: don't you get sarcasm? Oh?
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, someone was real upset about whatever I said about
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: cut off Louisiana. And I'm sure I don't even know
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: what I say. I don't know, but it was probably sarcasm.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's like I've never even been to cut off.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: No, I've been through cut off so many downtown.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, someone got real upset about talking
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: whatever we said about cut off flu.
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  Speaker 2: That's where where the old Cajun cannon, my bad bet
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  Speaker 2: from down and Down and cut off Louisiana.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: That's why he put some of its sarcasm. But some
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  Speaker 1: of it is based in reality.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, that in irony. Some people don't have a
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: since irony, don Yeah. Woman arrested for urinating on grocery
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  Speaker 2: store food after cops fine trove of similar videos dating
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  Speaker 2: back four years.
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  Speaker 1: Stuart, why would you show me this? I don't need
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  Speaker 1: this because I have to shop at the grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a choice.
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  Speaker 2: Midland, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, he's lying.
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  Speaker 2: New Hampshire woman arrested.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, we went to New Hampshire though.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we were there about that time. Yeah. A
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: New Hampshire woman was arrested on Friday. Wait, this is
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: coming to us from The New York Post, published February
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 1: Florida, Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Caitlin McCormick. I told you Midland, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's New Hampshire.
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  Speaker 2: You would definitely guess Florida. Wuldn't you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Woman peeing on stuff?
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably.
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  Speaker 2: Well. She was arrested on Friday after police found footage
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  Speaker 2: of her urinating on food products at a local grocery store,
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  Speaker 2: among a trove of online videos documenting similar disgusting acts
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  Speaker 2: dating back four years. So not only was she doing this,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: she was doing it and putting it on YouTube, hoping
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: to make a lot of money and live the band life.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I guess. Kelly Tedford, aged twenty three, allegedly tainted a
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  Speaker 2: slew of products at a it's gonna be a tough
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  Speaker 2: one for stew Mona monad Knock food co op in
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  Speaker 2: New Hampshire doesn't sound familiar. So hopefully we didn't buy
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: anything there while we were there. No, so she did that,
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  Speaker 2: whether you're ine costing the grocery store roughly fifteen hundred
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: dollars for the room products and cleaning expenses, said the
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  Speaker 2: Keen Police Department.
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  Speaker 1: What was she peeing on in the back store rooms
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: or in the.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Front I doesn't say if she was just peeing on
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  Speaker 2: the aisles or what she was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this reminds me of that time.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Remember we could go to her YouTube page and watch them.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: No, I remember several years ago there was those people
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: film those kids filming they worked at the Taco Bell
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the Taco Tastic Day, and they were like licking all
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: the taco shells. Do you remember that?
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: No, but I do remember the people that were doing
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: that to the Blue Bell ice cream, popping the top
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: off and licking it because Blue Bell didn't put the plasta.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: That's on Blue Bell. Because you should have some sort
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: of you shouldn't just have where you could just open something.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: You should have a safety seal you don't have to
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: have the cover on the top, but you at least
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: need to have that plastic safety seal around it, which
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: they do now. But why wouldn't you put that on
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: your food?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, the old tilan al Cyani and the tail
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: and all happened back in the eighties. We know by
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: now it's twenty twenty year.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If anything, if I'm like, did I even hear
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: that thing pop? Or was it like when you're opening
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: throwing it out and I'm requesting a refront from Walmart, Yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: if I don't even if I don't see this safety seal,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: or I'm even confused as to whether or not it
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: actually happened, I'm like, oh my god, someone poisonous. They're
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: trying to kill us.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they specifically found our podcast. Ye. They hate us
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: because they don't get sarcasm. Yeah, and they are trying
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: to kill us.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, with the jar pickles.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: The grocery store also had to issue a recall for
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: its organic quinoa, cornmeal, polenta, coconut shreads and raw walnuts,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: after Tedford had apparently relieved herself on the products.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Well technically it was still organic.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, it wasn't Telford's first time peen in places she shouldn't.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: If anything, it was a hobby for the young urinator. Yes,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: gotta love the writing of this person. Police recovered multiple
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: videos Tedford herself posted online showing her pen on produce
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: surfaces and other objects. The oldest videos, bait Bat, date
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty one. Wow. After reviewing the videos,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: surmised that the serial public urinator likely tormented, tormented not
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: only the grocery store, but a slew of nearby communities
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: with her disturbing delinquency.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I hope she's got the death penalty.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Is this is a death penalty case? Now that you
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: say that. Tedford was released on her own recognizance, Oh god,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: and set to appear for an arrayment on April seventh.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Not even she didn't even have to bail out. Just yeah, okay,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: you're free to go.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: She's obviously mentally ill. She shouldn't be out in the world.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who does this?
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah? A mentally ill person?
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Yes? I concur who. But if you say she's mentally ill,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: then we can't get rid of death penalty.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: No, but she needs to be in some place where
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: they can help her, or at least restrain her until
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: she sentenced. That's disgusting.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: It is. Police have launched an investigation, with additional criminal
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: chargees possible in the future. So far, she has only
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: been charged with felony criminal mischief.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: No, throw the book at her.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: That element. Well, there's got to be more somehow. Contaminating
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: consumables is not a novelty in the US. In California,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: an HIV positive man dubbed the piss Bandit took it
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: upon himself to leave bottles filled with his urine around
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: a Pasadena neighborhood as a means of taunting residence. The
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: community was floored by his sheer, dedication and seemingly superhuman bladder.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know how that ended up in this story
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: with no further HIV from p No, it's going to
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: be transmitted in the blood, I believe.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think he was accomplishing
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: what he uh what he thought he was accomplishing.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: A panicking the public as he was, because people don't
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: know that you can't catch it from just a bottle
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: of pee.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, I guess if you're one of
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: those twenty percent of people though, that secretes your bulloot.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Oh No, that's blood type not blood I don't remember
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: in the oh that's that's not in urine, that's in seamen. Anyways,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: all right, well that's a lovely stories too.
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