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Ep. 53 - Sammy Brown Talks Pre-Med, Pass Coverage & the Crockpot Theory · Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Beyond the Pod. Today
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  Speaker 1: we have Sammy Brown. Sammy as a sophomore on the
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  Speaker 1: Clemson football team, a high school butck Kiss Award winner,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Thirdteam All American, first Team All ACC honoree,
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  Speaker 1: Freshman All American, and won the ACC Defensive Rookie of
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  Speaker 1: the Year. Sammy, Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 2: It's a blessing to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome. Yeah, welcome, It's so awesome. Sammy. Your face kind
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  Speaker 3: of reacted to some of those accolades. They're pretty big accolades.
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  Speaker 3: But why what went through your head? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't like to boast about myself, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: so I try to stay as low key as I
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  Speaker 2: can and not like talk about myself that much.
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  Speaker 3: What your actions talk for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could say.
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  Speaker 4: That, Well, you just got a new award, the All
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  Speaker 4: American Academic three point nine eight GPA's.
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  Speaker 2: The one that I, honestly will I will boast about
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  Speaker 2: because I feel like that's that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And you're a biology major, so that's even more impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So you want to do with your biology?
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  Speaker 2: I want I want to go to med school and
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  Speaker 2: eventually become a pediatrician.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, how long have you wanted to do that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just I've always wanted to do
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  Speaker 2: I've always been like a good math science guy, so
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  Speaker 2: I figured something in science. And then my mom is
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  Speaker 2: a pharmacist, and I feel like I'm one of the
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  Speaker 2: older ones in my family, so I always have like
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  Speaker 2: little cousins around. I'm, you know, pretty good playing with them.
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  Speaker 2: So I just kind of put all that together and
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  Speaker 2: got pediatrician.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have any favorite pediatricians growing up? Did they
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  Speaker 1: leave an impact on you? I feel like you have
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  Speaker 1: to have, like, have to be a special person to
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  Speaker 1: be a pediatrician, you know, to interact with kids all
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to uh, doctor Holly, my pediatrician.
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  Speaker 4: Doctor Holly, doctor, that's awes cool. I tried it the
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  Speaker 4: science thing. Really, it didn't work for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely not easy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Moregos kicking my butt right now.
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  Speaker 3: So what is that school path for you? You'll obviously play football,
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  Speaker 3: Do your time come? And then what comes next?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I don't know. More school it kind of yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of depends on, you know, what happens with football.
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  Speaker 2: If I go to the NFL, and you know I
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  Speaker 2: haven't made then I don't have to go to school.
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  Speaker 2: But do you think you after Yeah, I mean obviously,
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  Speaker 2: if I've got time and I'm still fairly young, I
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  Speaker 2: would like to go back to school and see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: That would be so cool.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I haven't really thought that far. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just one kind of winging it.
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  Speaker 3: That's so cool. What does it take to balance I mean,
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  Speaker 3: have a three point nine eight GPA while playing football
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  Speaker 3: at a really high level. How do you do it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like I said, I've always been a
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  Speaker 2: good like math science guy, so a lot of it
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  Speaker 2: has really come natural to me. But that I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I have had some classes It's like, holy cow, this
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  Speaker 2: is like Orgo is kicking my butt right now, and
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  Speaker 2: I got to figure out, you know, how to do that.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know, We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there are so many things that we
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  Speaker 1: have to do as just do an athlete. You have meetings,
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  Speaker 1: you're at the facility all day. How do you get
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  Speaker 1: your homework done at a decent hour to be able
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  Speaker 1: to get up the next day and be ready for
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  Speaker 1: practice and be ready for school and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you got to sacrifice
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. But I feel like we've got a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good schedule football, especially right now. It take a
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  Speaker 2: lot of my harder classes in the spring because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're not doing as much with football, so that definitely helps.
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking I got a good, good little schedule this semester.
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  Speaker 3: So I love that. Because I also have heard you
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  Speaker 3: like to fill your time with hunting and fishing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is That's about all I do, honestly.
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  Speaker 4: So the balance of all three football, school, hunting, fishing, Like,
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  Speaker 4: how do you do? How do you make sure like
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  Speaker 4: everything that you love fits in your schedule.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's hard because sometimes I'm like I really want
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  Speaker 2: to go fishing or really want to go hunting, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, we have we have a game this week.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of got to get ready for that. So
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  Speaker 2: it is it's not that hard, but it is like
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  Speaker 2: weird to try to kind of balance all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But I figured out.
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  Speaker 1: I saw more that you're a pro bass fisherman.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't I would say a pro, but I would
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  Speaker 2: I would say I'm a pretty good fisherman. Me and
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  Speaker 2: my buddy actually went to bass Pro yes esterday, Yeah, yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and I bought a new fishing fishing pole, so nice.
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  Speaker 3: What makes someone a good fisherman?
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  Speaker 2: I mean knowledge, I guess, like knowing what to throw, when,
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  Speaker 2: where to throw, Like there's a lot of components that
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  Speaker 2: go into it. But it's not like fishing is not
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  Speaker 2: that hard.
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  Speaker 1: What about hunting. Don't you have to be like super
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  Speaker 1: quiet and go super either super hunting is in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit more skilled, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: you still have to be really lucky. Like I shot.
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  Speaker 2: I shot a deer this year, and I where I
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  Speaker 2: was hunting. I had one picture of that deer, so
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  Speaker 2: it was just you know, it happened at the time
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  Speaker 2: that I went. He happened to be there at the
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  Speaker 2: same time. So hunting is a lot of luck, but
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  Speaker 2: it is also knowing like where to hunt, when to hunt,
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  Speaker 2: like all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I tried hunting once, kind of honey I shot. I
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  Speaker 1: tried to shoot it at a deer, but I missed,
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  Speaker 1: and then I felt bad because it was it was Bambi.
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  Speaker 2: You know, did you hit it?
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  Speaker 1: No? I did it hit it? I completely missed, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but I felt bad for like scaring it.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean I feel like there's a lot worse
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  Speaker 2: things in a deer's life than getting missed. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: mean I think about cars and coyotes and all that
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  Speaker 2: other stuff.
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  Speaker 3: There.
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  Speaker 1: I heard they were pasts too, there are past So
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  Speaker 1: it depends.
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  Speaker 2: Like, so my buddy has some land in North Augusta
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  Speaker 2: and they're bad, like they're they're considered a pest down
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  Speaker 2: there because there's a bunch of farmland down there, right,
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  Speaker 2: and the population is so big that they eat all
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  Speaker 2: the crops.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they are, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, but like up here, they're not really that bad
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  Speaker 2: of a pest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So you're from Georgia, So do you go back to
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  Speaker 4: Georgia when you hunt and fish or do you kind
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  Speaker 4: of stay local?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of my spots are back in Georgia, but
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  Speaker 2: it's only an hour drive, Like you just go down
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  Speaker 2: eighty five. It's an easy drive. But I've started to
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  Speaker 2: get some more spots around here to hunt and fish.
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  Speaker 2: That's the hardest part is having to drive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's super early, right, what time do you
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  Speaker 1: usually go?
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  Speaker 2: It depends so like with daylight savings, it kind of
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  Speaker 2: you know, changes it. But are we We're on the
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  Speaker 2: early morning schedule right now, aren't we.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, yeah, it's usually like five.
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  Speaker 3: So do you do that? You don't do that end season, though,
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  Speaker 3: you do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes if my schedule allows. Like I was telling
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  Speaker 2: him when we played Louisville. We played Louisville on a Friday.
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  Speaker 2: When we got back at like three or four in
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  Speaker 2: the morning, perfect, I was like, let's go hunt. So
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  Speaker 2: we got home, I got all my stuff from my
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  Speaker 2: house in Clemson, and I drove to Commerce.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Is that kind of like your safe place,
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  Speaker 3: your chance to reset.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like a it's like a good time
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  Speaker 2: of way. That's the best part of that. It's just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, really quiet, don't talk to anybody, don't have
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  Speaker 2: to do anything, just sit there and enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about your family too, and Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: do you guys have a super athletic family. Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, my dad played football at Furman Nice and
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  Speaker 2: my mom was a cheerleader at Firman. They met there.
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  Speaker 2: And my brother is a junior in high school now
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  Speaker 2: he's coming to clan's committed to Clemson to play football.
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  Speaker 2: And then I've got a little sister that cheers and
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  Speaker 2: runs track, and she's honestly the most athletic in the family.
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  Speaker 2: She's also the craziest, Like she got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: my dad's like redneck side of the family. She got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of their jeans.
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  Speaker 3: So that So did you play? You did track and
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  Speaker 3: you wrestled in high school too. How was that? Like?
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  Speaker 4: Did you love doing that? Like how did you find
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  Speaker 4: the love for football?
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  Speaker 3: How did that all play out?
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  Speaker 2: So I always said that I didn't like wrestling even
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  Speaker 2: though I did it, and you were.
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  Speaker 3: Really good at it, you were really Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I did one state twice, but I always, like I
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  Speaker 2: always said when I was wrestling, like, gosh, I hate this.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's hard. It's so hard, Like the practices
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  Speaker 2: are hard, like tournaments are hard. It's just a really
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  Speaker 2: hard sport. In my opinion, it's the hardest sport. But
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  Speaker 2: it was just like I don't know, it was just
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like it. And then now that I'm away
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  Speaker 2: from it, I'm not doing it anymore. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: really wish I could wrestle it, like I do miss it.
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  Speaker 2: And then track was always fun because you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: like a good vibe sport here in the spring, you're
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  Speaker 2: almost done with school, kind of easy. It was fun
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  Speaker 2: just running, Yah, just running.
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  Speaker 1: What events did you do?
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  Speaker 2: I did the one hundred, two hundred four by one
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  Speaker 2: and long jump, long jump. I was pretty good at
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  Speaker 2: long jump, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: Was long jump your best?
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  Speaker 2: M M? I mean, I don't know. I was never
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  Speaker 2: like really good at anything in track. I was just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, pretty good. I never I won state my
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  Speaker 2: freshman year in the four hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Nice casual, but that.
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  Speaker 2: Was no hate of commerce, but that was a one
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  Speaker 2: A school, so it was like a.
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  Speaker 1: Little and that eventually led to football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've literally played football like as long as I
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  Speaker 2: can remember.
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  Speaker 1: So you played all three sports at once?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are different.
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  Speaker 1: Seasons, Okay, that makes more sense.
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  Speaker 2: So like fall was football, and then winter was wrestling,
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  Speaker 2: and then spring was track, and then it was right
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  Speaker 2: back in the summer football.
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  Speaker 4: I love a good dynamic though, Like it's always good
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  Speaker 4: to like space it out and.
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  Speaker 2: It keeps you busy, like I'm always doing something, I'm
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  Speaker 2: never bored. That was good.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that doing all three sports helped make
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  Speaker 3: you into a football player that you are today?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely like especially like wrestling, Like there's a mental
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  Speaker 2: toughness aspect of football that I feel like wrestling gave me.
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  Speaker 2: And then like track is like you gotta run football.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Also I learned a fun fact that you and your
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  Speaker 3: dad were both under coach Joey Batson.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that is Yeah, so coach Batson was my dad's
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  Speaker 2: strength coach when he was at Furman and then my
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  Speaker 2: dad was a GA in the weight room after he
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  Speaker 2: got done playing, and coach Batson actually offered him a
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  Speaker 2: job at Clemson, like to be a GA when he
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  Speaker 2: left to come to Clemson, and he said no because
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  Speaker 2: of my mom.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome, And your dad ever have like any stories?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, coach Batson's a legend, just retired, great career.
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  Speaker 2: But he's yeah, he's He's told me a lot of
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  Speaker 2: really interesting stories, and I'm like that definitely wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: allowed now, Like he told me he told me he
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  Speaker 2: ripped a water fountain on the wall one time. No way,
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  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, definitely. I don't know how that would
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  Speaker 2: roll over to Yeah, yeah, probably not.
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  Speaker 4: So you would say that he like is a little
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  Speaker 4: bit different, Like do you guys share some of like
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  Speaker 4: the same stories.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like when I got when I first got
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  Speaker 2: to Clemson, my dad kind of rolled. My dad's a
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  Speaker 2: weight room coach, like he coaches in the weight room
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  Speaker 2: and he's an OH line coach for football, and so
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  Speaker 2: I got up here and we started doing the workouts
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  Speaker 2: up here, and I was like, he's really similar to
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  Speaker 2: the workouts I did with my dad. Yeah, so he
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  Speaker 2: learned a lot from coach bats.
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  Speaker 3: And that's awesome. So what does your dad coach your
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  Speaker 3: high school team? How was that?
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  Speaker 2: It was good?
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  Speaker 3: It It was good in the aspect of like I'm
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  Speaker 3: always around him, I get to hang out with him
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  Speaker 3: all the time.
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  Speaker 2: But he definitely we definitely had our disagreement sometimes. But
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  Speaker 2: one thing he was good about was he always separated
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  Speaker 2: like being a dad and being a coach. So it
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  Speaker 2: was like there was one practice I remember my freshman
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  Speaker 2: year he ripped me to shreds about something. I can't
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  Speaker 2: even remember what it was, and I was so mad
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  Speaker 2: at him. And I get home, I'm eating dinner and
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  Speaker 2: he walks in the door and he was like, it's up, Sammy,
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  Speaker 2: Like it was just completely like he did even I
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  Speaker 2: was like, you just yelled at me thirty minutes ago.
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  Speaker 3: So that's so cool.
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  Speaker 1: That's a special job, special to switch personalities like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like having a parent as a coach
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  Speaker 4: can either go like I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like, definitely he embarrassed me a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times. I was like, come on, man, right now,
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  Speaker 2: there's one.
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  Speaker 1: In front of the team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one of my one time our freshman year,
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  Speaker 2: We're playing in the region championship and I think I
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  Speaker 2: fumbled on the goal line. We're going into score and
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  Speaker 2: I fumbled, and I'm jogging over the sideline and he
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  Speaker 2: meets me on the numbers on the field and grabs
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  Speaker 2: me by my face mask and like lists me up.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, come on, like everybody's watching.
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  Speaker 3: Because you also were a really good running back. And
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  Speaker 3: then it does so read that you punted.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a second team on state punter.
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  Speaker 1: What got all played both sides of the ball and
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  Speaker 1: also punted.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, ie like a really good running back too,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously really good punter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could say.
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  Speaker 3: That, do you miss either of those positions? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I mean running back was fun just because like it
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  Speaker 2: was a lot easier than the linebacker. You just run
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  Speaker 2: the ball. But I'd rather honestly play linebacker. And then
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  Speaker 2: punter was like, there was no technicality in me punting,
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  Speaker 2: Like I just got back there and kicked the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Just kicked the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Just kick it as hard as I can and see
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  Speaker 2: how far it goes. I had a punt. We actually
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  Speaker 2: played Ren my senior year, and I had a punt.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a seventy yard punt. I was like, nice,
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  Speaker 2: that was just a casual Yeah. I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't like, there was literally no form I get. I
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  Speaker 2: just got that bear and back there and kicked it
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  Speaker 2: as hard as I could.
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  Speaker 3: Love. So, what do you love so much about playing linebacker?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I feel like it's they
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  Speaker 2: always say the linebacker is the quarterback of the defense.
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  Speaker 2: So I've always liked like the technical, like the technical,
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  Speaker 2: like figuring out the offense and like figuring out what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing and schemes and like tended seasons, that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. It was always really interesting to me to
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  Speaker 2: try to like, you like playing chess, Yeah, it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And then also like I like tackling people. It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So your job is to eventually tackle the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, and whoever has the ball gotcha?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Does you said being like the quarterback of the defense,
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  Speaker 3: does that require you to be vocal?
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  Speaker 2: Very vocal?
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  Speaker 3: I was that, as you have been called maybe mild mannered,
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  Speaker 3: you're not always the loudest. So how does that trend?
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  Speaker 3: Like obviously you go into another mode on the football field.
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  Speaker 2: It is it's a learning curve because I'm not like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't talk a whole lot and I don't yell
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot. So it's also it's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: flipping a switch when you get on the field. There
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  Speaker 2: ever been a couple of times where I've just had
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  Speaker 2: to like scream and yell and it's like I don't
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  Speaker 2: usually do that, so it's kind of it feels awkward
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  Speaker 2: doing it, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Feel like that's important for finding your mores too. And
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  Speaker 1: then you becoming a leader, becoming a leader on your team.
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  Speaker 1: Are there any leaders on your team that you look.
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  Speaker 2: Up to last year? It was it was weighed definitely
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  Speaker 2: because you know, he's a senior year he's done it.
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  Speaker 2: So always if I ever needed something or I needed
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: like another opinion, I always went to him.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: How did that having that mentorship kind of help you become,
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: you know, a leader on the field and help others
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: maybe that are underclassmen.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it just kind of like paves
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: a path. Coach Schwenie always says, let someone else's rear
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: lights be your headlights. So you're kind of you're kind
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: of looking for people to follow. And I feel like
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Wade was always a really good example. He always did
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: the right thing, he said the right thing, So you know,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: just following him in the path that he took in
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: his career was also like it was really good for me.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: That's cool. You had a great freshman year. You're only
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: a sophomore, and I feel like it's rare more and
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: more these days that a freshman really comes in and
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: makes an impact. How do you think that has shaped
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: your leadership? Because if you're in a vocal position, you're performing,
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: you're contributing, probably required you to step up in a
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: leadership way that maybe you were prepared for, maybe you
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: didn't know going into your freshman year.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely like came on me click quick,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: like because I early enrolled, so I came in the spring.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I like I came I missed my senior year, so
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: it was it was good in that aspect because I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: got an extra semester of it. I was able to learn,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: you know, how to do everything in the facility. But
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: it was good that I came that I was able
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: to play so quickly because it gave me the opportunity
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: to lead so early.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: How would you describe your leadership style?
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: You know, they really I always tried to do like
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: the lead by example thing, but you know, when you
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: become like the guy, and hopefully I do become the guy,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: it like you really have to do more than that.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: You have to do more, you have to be vocal.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: So that's something that I'm figuring out the spring with
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Wade being gone, so it's still a learning curve. Still
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: in the learning curve right now.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Talk about that more like leadership is such a sexy phrase.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: People want to be a leader, but it's hard, right
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: We talk a lot about that Entiger Leadership Academy, which
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: you're a part of. What is talk about some of
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: the hard parts of that.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: It's hard, especially in a game like football because you're
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: so close to all those guys, So like it's finding
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: the balance of like being that friend but also being like,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: you know, the top dog and being the leader and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: having them to yell at them. So it is really
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: hard in that aspect, but I feel like the more
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: you do it, the easier it becomes, you know, understanding
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: you know different ways to lead. Who you can you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: scream at and yell at and you know, get in
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: their face, and who you have to like pull to
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: the side and talk to them in that. So it
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: is it is a really big learning curve in that aspect.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Do your teammates ever get like upset with you after?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, some people don't like getting
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: yelled at. My brother is like that, Like if you
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: yell at him, he's gonna like turn his head and
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: like act like he's not like he's so you kind
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: of got to pull him aside and like tell him, like, hey,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you don't need to be doing this. But it's it's
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: so different so for so many people, Like some people
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: it's like like I'm kind of like that if you
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: yell at them and be like just sir. So it
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: is different. It's different for everybody.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's like trust that you buildefinitely does
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a big part of it, so they know You're not
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: yelling at them because you want to yell at them.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: It's something I'm gonna, you know, try to do. The
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: spring is like become really close with a lot of
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the guys on the defense, so like they know that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it not because I just want to yell
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: at them, but because you know, I care about them
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and I want them to be really good.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: That was something that we talked about a lot in volleyball,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: was like accountability is the biggest form of love, and
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: like you're only holding someone accountable because you care about
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: them and you want them to be great. It's not
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: like you're trying to harm.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Them or like being mean to them and any you
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: don't want to do it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, But obviously you have like different personalities that
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: take things very different, like you said before, so learning
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the way that they take stuff.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Is important on how to keep it not personal, right, yeah, personal,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: but if we have a common goal working towards that exactly.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: So is that something that like Clemson football kind of
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: like was attractive to you, like the culture, the leadership,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: building football development, Like how did that all play into
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: your decision?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like the culture of Clemson was one
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: of the biggest things in my decision. Like every time
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: that I visited Clemson throughout, like my recruitment, it was
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: just this is different, Like this feels different. The facility
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: felt different, and game day felt different. It was just
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: always a different feeling for me. So, you know, the
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: coaches in the facility kind of paid the path for
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the leadership of the players and stuff, and I feel
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: like that kind of played a big role in it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you went on visits to Ohio State, Oklahoma, Georgia.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Am I missing anything anyone else?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I took a lot of visits.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Honestly, what meede Clemson stand out.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: To you, I think the people, the people you know
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: in the facility. The head guy, coach twenty is you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: by far, one of the best coaches in college football,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and I feel like he does it the right way,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Like he he really is focused more on the people
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: rather than you know, the place. And I feel like
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: that's what a lot of people when they make their
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: decision to come to a college, it's more about the place,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Like right, hey, you know, Ohio State won a national
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: championship a couple of years ago, I guess, But I
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: feel like with the people, that kind of builds the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: foundation for having a really good program.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Do you remember having any like specific conversation with him
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: or any other positional coach when you know you're getting recruited.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I definitely. I feel like the best thing to do
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: was I talked to a lot of the players, because
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: you know, they're gonna be coaches, are coaches, they're gonna
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: sell you on you know, this is the best place
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: for you and all that. But you know, talking to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the players you kind of get that real personal like
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: perspective on what it's like in a day to day So, like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I talked to Barrett a lot throughout my recruitment because
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you know, he was he kind of had a similar
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: journey to me. Came in and played as a freshman,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: he had a great career, and he's, you know, starting
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in the NFL now. So I talked to him a
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: lot about you know, what is it like in the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: locker room, what are practices like, what is the facility
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: like on a day to day basis? Can He gave
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: me a lot of really good stuff, and it was
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: everything that I thought it would be. It was, you
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: know a lot of what I thought Clemson was like.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: He told me it was like.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, that's a great answer.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Like I feel like I love hearing the side of
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: like you want to know what it's like. You don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: want to just hear like yeah, okay, yeah Clemson won
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: a national championship or like all this isn't this, but
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: like you want to hear like what it's like and
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: who you're going.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: To be with for the next Yeah, the locker room
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: really does play a really big role in like making
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a decision, because you know, those are the people you
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: hang out with for four years.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, how would you. I think one
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: thing that people don't know unless you've played a college
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: sport is the locker room, and like the memories that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: come in the locker room, and sometimes it's not the
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: dance if you win, or like the super motivational things
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: like I think when I played, there was one night
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: we had a couple of teammates just could not get
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: to practice on time, and we were like, if we
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: are late one more time, our whole team was going
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: to be in trouble again. We spent the night in
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the locker room and then there was like security lights
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: that wouldn't go off. But it's like one of my
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: favorite memories because we were like bringing in mattresses because
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: we were like, as a team, we are sleeping in
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: this locker room, so no one is late tomorrow, like
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: for all of you, and no one was late. Obviously
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I would hope not. But it was like, like I
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: will never forget that workout that happened the day before
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: where our whole team was punished because people were like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: do you all have stories like that? Like that you
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: can share, But I think those things that make the
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: experience that you don't see on Instagram, you don't see
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: on t attack, you don't common people, like the common
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: knowledge isn't there of what goes on in a locker
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: room that makes it special and fun.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I think like there's been a few times that I
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: can remember of like after a hard workout, all of
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: us just like going in the locker room, just like
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: laying on the floor, just like be And I feel
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: like that's so fun because it's like you get to
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: go through the hard together and like you just kind
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: of like bond over that. But yeah, there's been times
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: where you just have to go through it together, whether
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• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I think I have a lot, a lot of stories
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: of when we've gotten in trouble that a lot of
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: people don't get to see. But I think it's brought
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: us so much closer together. And then also, like the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: hard parts of being a student athlete, I feel like
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: are traveling too, Like we just came off a meet
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: from California and going through the airport delirious, tired at
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a red eye with my teammates and bonding with them,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and that that just creates such a good friendship amongst
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the team. So I don't know, it's those little things
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: that make a team so special too.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Is there somebody in the football locker room that You're like,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: you have all the energy you kind of bring everyone together,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: like that type of vibe.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Last year it was a top venables. He was so funny. Energy, Yeah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: big energy. He was literally he might be the funniest
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: person that I've ever met. Like he like anything. He says,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it's just like what are you talking about? But I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: mean I think I think Jeremiah Alexander is really funny too.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: He always, like especially in the backer room, he brings
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a really good energy.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: This isn't the new transfer from Alabama, gotcha, he came.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: He came last year, so he's been here a year.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: This is his second year.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. Are there any other like fun stories from the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: locker room that you can share, Like do you guys dance?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: What do you guys do after after practice?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I mean really the memories, yeah, the memories that I
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: have come from like the hardest moments. Yeah, Like I
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: can remember last year after Matt Drills, we got in
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the locker rooms went ballistic, like music started playing, people
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: were throwing waters and stuff. I mean, it was it
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: was so funny. But like Matt Drills and Fall Camp
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: or the two times that I I have the most
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: memories because those are like, that's hard, that's all the
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: courts of the year, and it's like I'm there with
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: my guys, and I'm there, you know, we're doing it
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: all together, and we're going through the hard together.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I feel. I feel like I've seen so many videos of,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: like on my TikTok timeline of college football players, like
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: sleeping in the locker room like overnight and just staying
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: at the facility during the duration of fall camp.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Is there any truth to that?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah? There is. I think a lot of the coaches
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: do that too.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Really well.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: We have we have like that recovery yeah area with
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: like the dry float and stuff, and it's like some
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: people just sleeping that that's crazy. I don't do that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think I could sleep very well at the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: facility and I live like five minutes away. But a
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: lot of people do sleep in the facility. I don't
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: know how they do it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: What is the schedule of fall camp? Why are people
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: sleeping there?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll usually have workouts in the morning at like
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: six point thirty, okay, and then it's like meeting meeting, meeting, practice, meeting, meeting,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and then you get done at like ten o'clock a night,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: and then you wake up the next day and do
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: it all over again.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: They're basically there the entire day.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Literally you were there from seven in the morning to
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: ten and night every day.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I've always been fascinated at how many meetings happen in football.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to, like, well, especially in fall camp,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you have to like install everything the guys because it's
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: like the new like the beginning of the year. So
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: it's like you got to install like the program ideas,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: like introduce everybody talk about what the program means, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: then you got to introduce like the playbook and stuff.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: So it's like you literally have meetings all day. It's
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: intent definitely that if it definitely like weeds people out,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Like if you really love it, you can make it
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: through fall camp and have no you know, no complaints.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Are there any like favorite rules that stick out to
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you or favorite standards that you have to live by
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that Dabbo has said.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Hm hmm. I don't know what we've got our We've
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: got our commandments on the wall in the team meeting
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: room and the first.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: One is uh, not putting on the spe go.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: To class and be engaged. I feel like that's a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: really good Like that's the number one rules to go
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to class and be engaged, and I have that aligns
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: with what coach Coach Sweeney wants for his program is
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you know graduation, right, and then the second one is
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you know, be a good citizen. So he's not like
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: he doesn't like bear down on us with all these rules,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: but it's like you could be a good citizen and
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: it doesn't take a whole lot to be a good citizen.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Is there something that surprised you about, you know, anything
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: that Dabos Sweeney has, like you know, put down for
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: the for the program, the standards, or just anything in general.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: He has a lot of we call him sweenyisms. He
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: has so many sweenyisms and like you'll hear him one
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: hundred times throughout the year.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: What's your favorite.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got the classic like I'll do what
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I can when I can, so I cannot, I will
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: not wish that would when I could have. But there's
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: some there's a drunk twister. Yeah, there's some really funny
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: ones where it's just like you know he's gonna say
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: it at some point. I'm trying to think of I
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: literally think about him all the time. Then I got
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I got put on the spot in our and our
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Clemson podcast too, and I couldn't remember any good ones.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Like when you know someone so well, like you even
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: just start to like predict what they're gonna say or
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: like what they're going to enforce.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: His crock pot analogy is really good. I think that
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: one's really funny.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Like? You know, when you have a freshman come in
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: that you know needs a couple of years and he
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you know, he needs to put on some size and
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: get in the playbook and stuff, you put him in
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the crockpot and when it's done, you take him out
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: of the crockpot and he's ready to play, just like that. Yeah, exactly,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: he's in the crock pot cooking. That's what he says.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: He says an all the time.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Is there a certain like diet you have to come
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: like build up based on your position when you come
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in as a freshman.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it depends on where you're at, Like
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: we have, you know, we have standards based off the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: NFL at your position on what like how much you
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: need to weigh and stuff, and like your body composition
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and stuff. So you could be like a weight gang
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: guy or weight loss guy and there's certain diets based
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: off that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: It's cool. What do you remember from your first game
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: in Death Valley?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: We played app State and it was really loud, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I remember my first tackle was like a coverage beater
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: for the coverage we were in, and I was like,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that's all I remember. And like, honestly,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I get done with seasons and I'm like, what just happened?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I remember the season.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I don't remember half the games. Like I remember like
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: one or two games and that's it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes it's like a blackout. You forget everything.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Like I remember like the first game, in the last game,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and like two in the middle and that's it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Or like some of my teammates will like say
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: specific details, I'm like, how do you remember that?
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I am just you were there. Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Are there any games that you're looking forward to coming
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: this season?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited for LSU. It'd be really fun. That'll
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: be a like one of one environment we'll play in
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: because it's their first game. It'll be a night game
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: at their place. It's going to be really loud. It'll
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: be fun.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I think I saw a stat I think it was
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: maybe on Instagram that was like Compson Football's had like
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: the hardest schedule for the past like ten years or so,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: and I honestly more than like I don't know, like
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: nationally ranked hardest schedules. How does that, you know, prepare you?
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: How does that you know, influence your goals for a team?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And individually, I think it's I think it's really good
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: that we open up with a with a tough opponent.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: We've opened up We opened up with LSU last year
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: and then before that it was Georgia. I mean it
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: kind of like battle tests you. So you get into
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the middle of the season, you play another tough opponents, like, hey,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: we've been here before, we've done it, We've played this
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: hard opponent. So it really does give you that good
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: like battle testing and you know battle scores.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: When will your brother get here?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: So he'll be a senior this year, so I'll be
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a senior when he's a freshman.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: What are you looking forward to?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Definitely putting him through mattrels. You know we do a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: senior day where the seniors run the drills.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I just like that's such a brother.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it'll be fun. We played in high school
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: together and it was really fun because it's like how
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: many opportunities you you get to play football with your brother?
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in what position is he?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: He's a linebacker too.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, can you explain matt drills or are they it's
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: just like.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Really really really really hard workouts.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, do you think it's more mental? Yeah, Like it's
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: obviously physical, but there's not a whole lot.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Of like benefits to doing materials other than like we're
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: going to see how mentally tough you are, and you
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: like you build a brotherhood with the guys that you're
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: doing with because it's like, hey, this is not going
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to be easy, but I've got all you guys to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: do it with.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: But it's like you're pushing matts.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Not really. No, So it's like it's eight stations and
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you're at each station and like two or three minutes
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I think. But it's just like like it's just rapid
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: fire doing drills. It's like there's one with like the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: battle ropes and then like the hoops, you know, like
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the hoops that you run around like it's just like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: really it's just conditioning basically, it's not fun.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I love seeing the gymnasts work through this concept of match.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: But I'm so it requires actual mats.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you say matdrils, I think you're pushing like
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: actual mats because that's what we have to do. But
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it's not like that at all.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: We actually start next week.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's in the spring, right, you.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Know we start, we actually have like a like a
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: practice metrill tomorrow.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I think the walk through on mat drills.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like what to expect, I guess.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: So is it like push up station, like battle rope station,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: like running station, sprint station, like.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of, yeah, kind of sort of. I mean
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: there's you know, we have like the bags that we
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: like punch right, Like there's a there's a station where
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you have to punch the bags and then go back.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Like I don't even I can't even really describe it
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: without showing you a video of it's.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: What's your least favorite.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Battle roups are? The actual matte drill station is really hard.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: That's the one where you see where like people like
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: jump out and they're a bear crawling.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they jump like that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: That's that's the metro station.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: And who is the coach? That's yelling at you.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: All the football coaches are out all the coaches are
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: out there. That's That's also another thing is like you've
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: got twenty different people yelling at you at the same time,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and you've got to like lock in. And another thing
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: if you get sent back, getting sent back is like
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: you're probably gonna die. Like you're like, yeah, like if
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you mess up, like you have to have your foot
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: behind the line, and you have to you know, have
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: the right foot up like it, and they won't tell
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: you before, like you'll do the whole drill and then
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: they'll send you back and you off to do it again, so.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: They won't stop you in your track once you've made no, like.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: If you put the wrong foot up, they're gonna blow
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: the whist. So you're gonna do the drill and they'll
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: be like, all right, your foot was wrong, go back
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and do it again.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: So it's very important that you pay attention. Yeah, it's
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: like to the walk through day.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could say like it it's
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: focusing on doing the little things when you're really tired,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: cause like it's inevitable that it's gonna suck and you're
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: gonna get really tired, but you have to figure out like, Okay,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I'm really tired, but I gotta put this right. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: gotta put my right foot up, I gotta step with
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: this foot like there's I guess that's a good benefit too.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: And how many days does this last?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: You have five ma drills and they're kind of they're
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: doing it different this year, but usually the worst ones
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: is the first one would be at like three o'clock
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: in the afternoon, and then the next one would be
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: the next day at five thirty in the morning. So
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: it's like you go back to back.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Not even twenty four hours now, Yeah, you'll.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Be back in twelve hours. Yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: A new head strength coach this year. He love excited
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: for that.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's been really like, it's been really good
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: working out under him. He's brought a lot of intensity
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and he's brought, you know, like a fire that we
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that we need. So it's been really fun.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: It's awesome. I heard you out love him.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's really awesome. He's funny too.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like you need that in like a strike.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: It needs to be a little bit crazy.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in all the weight room videos that I've watched,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: if you guys lifting it looks insane, like it looks
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: like a party, But you guys are also like working
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: so hard.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Feeling at each other. Yeah, it's it's fun. I love
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I love working out. That's kind of like I've always
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: grown up like really liking working out, and so it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: no different here. Like you get in there and you're
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: just yelling and screaming at each other. It's a lot
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: of testosterone. Honestly.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: What's the like, what's the amount that you lift?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I mean what what lift?
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: This one when you put your arms over your head
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like like a press, yeah, or like this one where
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you're laying down bench.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've benched four twenty five one time, four.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Him twenty five pounds. You think you could move like
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: a small car?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do the Have you seen the ones where
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: they like pull the car with the rope? I bet
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I could probably do that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Men's basketball is that?
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you put it in a neutral and your spool.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It's not that.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Oh I can't even I'll let you all do that.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: We should go aside and put my truck right now. Yeah, okay,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: let's do that. Funny story. Actually, so we got ice
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: this weekend and our house is on a hill and
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: there were people in our driveway. So I just parked
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: halfway up the hill and I get out of my
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: truck and my truck starts sliding down the driveway. Oh no,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, Like I was out
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: of my truck. I had to like run over and
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: open the door and get back in and like pull.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Everything was okay, Yeah.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Nothing happened. It was like it was kind of anticonactic,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: like it was sliding really slow. But still I was like,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: should I like get in my truck and mover? Is
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it going to stop on its own?
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I like that's one thing in the South versus the North,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Like in the North, we don't have driveways like that
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: really really like no, because like if there's ice, like
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: you can't really.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also just being from the Midwest and then
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: like the ice storm comes down here, I'm like, Okay,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: what's actually gonna happen? And what are we.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Everybody freaks out there's no bread or milk store. Why
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: do people even buy milk? I've never I've never understood,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: because like if the power goes out, the milk's gonna expire.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: It's gonna expire anyway, So why are you loading up
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: on milk if it's gonna expire?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: That's a great question, calcium, I guess.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're telling me that you're gonna need significantly
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: more toilet paper during a weekend than you usually would.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know. This is just my my opinions.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I feel like it was like when I looked outside,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I was like, that's it.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was so anti climactic.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm grateful I didn't lose power. I know
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of people lost power and that would be terrible.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: The ice, though, is bad, Like the ice around my
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: apartment complex is really bad, which I was like, so
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: weird that, like some places it's really bad and others
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: it's not.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: We don't have any in our neighborhood, really, I have nothing.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Like I was driving around on a truck, like sliding
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: and stuff. It was really fun. Probably not safe, probably, well,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: to be fair, I wasn't driving fast. I was going
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: very slow. You were being safe as like as much
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: as I could.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: We missed most of the snow we tried. We had
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to flight from California to Atlanta, but we had to
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: sleep in the airport in the Atlanta airport for like
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: three hours so the ice could melt in the morning
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: when we got there, so the bus could drive back.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: But that's all.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: That's terrible.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is crazy.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Get snow this weekend too.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I saw that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Really that would be awesome.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: You want that?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got an exam on Monday. I'm trying to.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: It was crazy to me how they're canceled school like
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: on Friday for Monday, because like I remember growing up
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: as a kid, like like well, inches of snow and
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: then you'd be like, please say my school's name.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had the little like running thing.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're looking for your school.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I remember that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Midwest, it's you're going to school unless there's
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: like severe ice. But yeah, you know if there's snow, cool,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah you're going.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Got like half a inch of ice and they canceled
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: school for three days.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: It was also different, like there's not the snow trick.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: You don't have the infrastructure for it, right. I can
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: relate to like the snow days. The fire days at
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: my school, we would have school cancer to fire from Cali.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I'm from California, so school would be out for like
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a week because of the fires, and then we'd have
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: to come.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Back after that, which was like a whole other level
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: of terrifying.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably a lot worse than snow.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, Yeah, but the snow is I like the snow.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. No, yeah, I think growing up
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: in the Midwest.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: That's fun.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Did you go sledding?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I went one time.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: It's like when you can see the grass still.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're not really sledding. It's like it
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: was I too. So it's like you like you're trying
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: to walk back up and you're just slipping.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Wait, if there's no this weekend, then you can sled
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: down the hill.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. People. Did I think Kid did that last year?
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Did he?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Can you talk about this hill? Yeah? I think Kid
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: did that. I didn't do that. I went to the dikes.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I was I messed up the dikes last year.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Did you what was like your sled a dumpster lid? Nice?
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Nice. I don't know how we got in possession of
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: a dumpster lid, but I had a dumpster lid and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I had a wakeboard.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I also don't know how I got it, Like I
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: just like was walking down the street and found this
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: stuff and I was like nobody else is using it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I always love seeing what people come up with instead of.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Just havingboard boxes and stuff.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Especially don't hear because the sleds aren't as prevalent as
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: a Midwest where everyone would have on.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: People in kayakaks.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fun.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, shift a little bit your favorite or let's say,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: like your dream and il deal. I know you said
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: you have a truck. What is something maybe hunting fishing.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: What's something that would be your favorite.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's so many options.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: And you did one with Carls Junior too.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Right, that was awesome. It was really nice. I love parties.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: That's like my go to.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, I said Carls.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've ever had Hartis.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Really they don't have it any more. Through that, that's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: really good. That's like my go to. Like, if I'm
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: going hunt in the morning, I'm getting out of the
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: stand and going to Harty's.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Or waffle house, shout out Hartis.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: And I I'd probably go. Massioak would be a good one.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I don't have like like a set brand that I
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: only use for hunting and fishing. I kind of like
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: mix it around. Masiog probably what is Masioak, it's a
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Camo company. Oh okay, I were I predominantly wear Massioak,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Mosioak and Real Tree.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Nice. I also wanted to ask, is there any significance
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to the number forty seven for you?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Oh? Honestly, I got here and it was like, all right,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you can choose between like thirty four, thirty seven, forty seven.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, James Kalski were forty seven, I'd
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: probably be a good one.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: So what number were you in high school?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: One?
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Nice?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I was, So I was twenty two my freshman year,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and then I was one the rest of my ears.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: But I feel like one is in a very good
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: linebacker number. I'd wear twenty two. Again, that's not a
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: bad number.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Because it's different based on your position, right, Like that's how.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, numbers are kind of But I feel like I'm
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: two years into forty seven. I feel like I'm probably
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: just gonna stick it out.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Got to keep it, Yeah your brand.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, And like I think about like it's kind
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of weird, but I think about like the little kids
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: that have already bought their forty seven jerseys, and I'm like, oh,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: if I changed jerseys and they got to buy another jersey.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Oh so that's true. Got to keep the fans.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, were there any linebackers growing up you look up?
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: You looked up to.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Ray Lewis obviously the undisputed goat, and then Luke Keickley
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: was another really one. I kind of try to like
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: play like Luke Keakley, Like he's one of those guys
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: where you see him on the stream, he's like, hey,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that's a normal guy. He's got his glasses on, he's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: really quiet, and then he gets on the field and
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: he's kind of a little bit crazy and he's like
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: super like one of the smartest linebackers to ever play.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: So that Luke Keigley is a good one. But I
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: really liked Troy Polamalo. He was he played for I'm
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: a Steelers fan somehow.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: So how do you feel about Mike Tomlin.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: He was good and then he wasn't, Like he was
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: good at just doing that, just super consistent eight and
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: eight every year, make the playoff, losing the first round.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: So you've been a fan for a while.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But Troy Polamali I love he was just he
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: made like every tackle it was so weird, Like you
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: always see highlights of him like jumping over the line
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: and stuff is like, that's sick and he's got some
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: fire hair.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Wait, you're from Georgia, but you're Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't no connection there. I don't really know
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: how that happened. I just always liked Pittsburgh.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Did you just see the team and we're like, that's
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: that's the one.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'll tell you what it is. I remember playing
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: madd and Mobile when I was a kid, and the
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: dre Archer this is a good ball knowledge by the way,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: the dre Archer speed card with the DNA helix on it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I always let that was my favorite card in Mad Mobile.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: So he played for the Steelers and I always liked
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: them just like that. Yeah, I don't know.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: You mentioned the kids with jerseys. You obviously love the kids.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: You want to be a pediatrician. What does it mean
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: to you. We've talked a lot about that too on
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: this podcast. Is just the impact on little kids, their
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: eyes watching you all as student asp What does that
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: mean for you? How do you want to be a
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: role model for them?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the way I look at it, like,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I can remember when I was a little kid watching
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: football and being like, Hey, I want to be like
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: that guy. So I feel like it's my responsibility to
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: you know, be a good role model for them and
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you know, show them a good example and you know,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: always always be a good person in their eyes so
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: that they can, you know, hopefully model their life after me.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Do you enjoy working the summer camps.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I love, Like. I love the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: little kids, like the not only because we're in the
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: basketball facility, but they're so funny because the first day
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: they're always super quiet and they don't really talk to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you that much, and then the second day when they
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: come back, it's like they're your best friend, and it's
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: almost it's like right at the verge of being annoying
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: where they're like, can I have your phone? I want
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: to play games on your phone. I'm like, no, dude,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: it's my phone camp. Come on, go go do a
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: drill or something. But it's it's I love the summer camp.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: There's so fun.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Having yourself like put on a pedestal for these kids.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Do you ever put like extra pressure on yourself because
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of how many kids look up to you? How do
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: you handle that pressure?
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't really say pressure. I feel like it's
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: more of like a not really a duty, but like
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: an honor that I'm able to do that. Like that,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I like, I'm able to have that pedestal to be
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: able to do it, so you know, I kind of
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: take pride in doing it right.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: It's awesome.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Is what does confidence look like for you on the field?
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: I know you're you're a little bit quieter off the field,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: but I know you said you're a little bit more
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: energetic and like crazy on the field.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: So what what does confidence look like?
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like our our coach bowl Or says this
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: all the time. I feel like confidence looks like you're
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: being loud, You're getting other people, you know, said where
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: they need to be. I think confidence is not necessarily loudness,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: but you know, being both cool because if I'm not
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: confident what I'm doing, I'm gonna be out there just
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: like thinking, like what do I have on this call? Like,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: but when I'm confident, I'm like, Okay, let me get
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: the front set, let me make sure everybody else knows
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. Let me see if I can, you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: get an identification of what they're doing. So I think
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: like confidence for me just just being a little like crazy,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like getting everybody lined up, calling out you know, the call,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the line up, like all that stuff.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's like confidence can also be like
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: helping others because like, if you're confident in yourself and
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: like your abilities, like let's spread it to others and
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: like make sure everyone is on track to so what
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: they got to do too.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the next step is it's good to
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: know what you're doing on a certain call or certain play,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: but if you know what everybody around you is doing too,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: it gives you that next level of confidence because like
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I know that the linebacker next to me has this,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: so I know what I can do to help him.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: A lot going on, Yeah, okay, how does it work
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: play call wise on the defense because there's also a
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: lot of people in bright colors jumping around calling things.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: What are you looking at? And then how do you
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: relay that to others?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, is that Am I allowed to say that?
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know. I don't don't give any secrets.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: But sometimes I see, like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Say like emoji's or something. But those are like play
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: calls for you all, you.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Know, like the big boards with yeah, yeah.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: So's but it always seems like there's so many things
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: going on, so you have to be locked in.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of diversions, a lot of diversions.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: This might be like a dumb question, but can you
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: like steal signs.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Or like that's what all. That's why we have three
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: people in the signs and everything else because people try
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: to like.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: So you know what you're looking at, but they don't
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: want other people to.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Like, everybody on the defense should know what we're looking at.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: But the point of everybody wearing the colors and the
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: signs and all that is like to give it away. Yeah, exactly,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: that is that. Yeah, we had a problem with that,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: so we had to like switch it up a little bit.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: That's some more fun emojis to come, yea hopefully Yeah
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: excited Sammy. What advice would you give yourself or even
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: like your younger brother coming into his freshman year starting
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: at Clemson.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I would just say, like, run your own race,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: That's what I would say. I would say, like, not
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: everybody's path is going to be the same in an
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: aspect of like you're gonna come in your first year
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: and start and do all this. Like everybody's path through
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: their college career is always going to be different, So
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I would just say, like run your own race to win,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: and don't try to compare yourself to others or compare
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: yourself to you know, you know other backers in the
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: room or other people in your position, because they're different
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: than you there, They've had a different path, they grew
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: up differently, they played differently, so you can't really compare
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: yourself to others when you're your own person.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's cool, Like coming from you is
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: like a sophomore, like you're still technically like underclassmen. Like
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I feel like when I was a freshman or sophomore,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: like I was always like so worried about like what
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: everyone else was doing and like kind of not really
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: focusing on myself and like what I needed to do
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: for my own game or for personal But I think
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: that's cool that you have that and you found that
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: as a sophomore.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, My dad always he always says that you control
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the controllables. You can only control what you can control.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: So I can't control if they put me in there.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I can't control if you know, they speak highly of
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: me or anything like that. But I can control what
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I do in practice. I can control how I work
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: out what I do extra like if you can, like,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: you can control what you can do, not what other
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: people say about your duty, you or anything like that.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Right, very true. In our research, there was a lot
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of TikTok research, at least for me, and I came
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: across this count called Sammy Worshiper. The eye roll to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the max that just happened right now for people who
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: are listening is crazy. Do you know this person? Have
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you seen the videos that they post?
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I've met this person before?
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: You have?
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I know them, but I do. I've met
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: him before. He's actually like a pretty cool guy in
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: real life.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. He seems like he he loves you, he's obsessed.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: The videos are definitely interesting, to say the least, weird, odd,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of ways to describe him, but I met
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: him a couple of times in real life. He's actually
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: a pretty normal guy. Like I figured, if you're on
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: an account like that, you gotta be a weirdo. He's
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: fairly normal, having fun with Yeah. He came to the
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Boston College game. I talked to him like ten minutes
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: after the game.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's cool. He was at Tiger Walk one time
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: and he had like a iHeart Sammy Brown. I don't
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: even notice poster poster.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, that's what I mean. It's so cool to
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: look at the impact that you have on people in
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: that way. And then there were so many edits to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: like Alan Jackson and country music and all of this stuff,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: and like I myself was like in my bed, I
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm getting hyped for like right now.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: They're insane. They're so cool.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Do you have people from home like send them to
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: you or.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, people send them to me all the time.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I've seen that before.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, because he said one in the group chat and
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: it was like one point two million likes.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, what, Yeah, that's insane.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. It's an insane amount of reach.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Do your teammates see them too, Yeah, they.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Talk about them all and they were like, did you
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: see a new video about you? I'm like, do I
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: want to see the new video?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: But do they ever bring it up to anyone else
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: or embarrass you by them or no?
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: No, not really I mean it's kind of like it's
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: almost like an inside joke, honestly.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Gotcha, But I don't know.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: It's weird. I wish it would be somebody else so
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I could make it one around.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Or you could find something.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I might make my own honestly and start making
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: it to somebody, just to take the spot to be anonymous.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anonymous, but again, still like, how cool is that
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: that you've been able to make an impact on people
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: in such a special way though too?
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Alan Jackson, that's how do you feel about that?
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I love Alan Jackson.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Good music, country.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Music, that's my stuff.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: What do you listen to? Pregame?
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Hard rock? So like Alice in Chains, Metallica, that kind
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: of stuff.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fire. Is that like that gets you hyped?
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Like that?
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: It like locks me in?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: That's cool?
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't. I'm not like a big like
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: hype music guy. Like I kind of feel like I
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: lock in better when I'm like just in my own thoughts,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: That's kind of so I thought you were going to say,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: like you were just sitting there with your headphones on
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: in silence, like I could do that for you.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I do because especially with the linebacker,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: like there's so much that you have to think about
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: and tendencies and all that stuff, like you got it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: You can't just go out there and be like reckless
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: of bandon, like just go out there and insibay like
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: you kind of gott to think too.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're not going on going hunting and fishing
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: in the silence is making more and more sense.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just gotta get away, put everything to the
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: side and go fish.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: What would be one thing that you would want to
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: leave behind your legacy at Clemson.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: What's the one thing?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: You know? I really when the coaches talk about me
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: after I leave, I want them to say that I
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: gave it everything I had. You know what I'm saying
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: that I like that I exhausted the moment and that
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: when I left there was physically and mentally nothing else
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: that I could have done differently well that because I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, they always say like finish with
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: no regrets. Like if I finish my time at Clemson
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: and I I've done physically and mentally everything that I
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: can do, and I have exhausted the moment, then I
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: have no regrets and I can live the rest of
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: my life knowing that I gave it everything I had.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: It's a great thing to be remembered by putting it
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: all out there.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be proud of.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Cool Sammy. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: you to be on the pod. This is a great episode.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Where can people find you on Instagram, LinkedIn, TikTok.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Linked uh, Instagram underscore dot Sammy Brown, I don't even
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: know what TikTok is, honestly.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Well, people can to search it. Thank you, thank you
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: so much, Thank you
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: For having me