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- 0:19Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into JFK Book Reviews, a division
- 0:23Speaker 1: of the Longoman Podcast. I am Big Bad Bob aka
- 0:29Speaker 1: Rob Clark here with you for another exciting JFK book review.
- 0:35Speaker 1: And as you can see from the pictures on either
- 0:37Speaker 1: side of me, we're gonna be talking today about John
- 0:43Speaker 1: Newman's Oswald and the CIA, and boy is she a
- 0:54Speaker 1: thicken thick thick thick, just like I like him. This
- 1:04Speaker 1: book here was published in nineteen and ninety five by
- 1:08Speaker 1: Carol and Graft Publishers. It clocks it at about six
- 1:12Speaker 1: hundred and twenty some pages, twenty some roughly chapters. It
- 1:18Speaker 1: does have a glossy section in the middle with pictures.
- 1:22Speaker 1: There is an acknowledgment section. There isn't index, and there
- 1:28Speaker 1: is also in this book about one hundred and some
- 1:32Speaker 1: pages of actual documents that he references in his book,
- 1:37Speaker 1: which I think is awesome. You know, instead of just
- 1:41Speaker 1: giving you the riff number and having to look it
- 1:43Speaker 1: up for yourself, he actually includes photo copies of the
- 1:50Speaker 1: documents in the book. And I will show you what
- 1:54Speaker 1: I mean. So here in the book we have the
- 2:03Speaker 1: actual documents, and like I said, there's one hundreds some
- 2:20Speaker 1: pages of that, and that's awesome. So when you're reading
- 2:25Speaker 1: the book, you know you can go back and actually
- 2:28Speaker 1: read the document, which is helpful without having to go
- 2:32Speaker 1: through a bunch of extra hoops to jump through. John
- 2:38Speaker 1: Newman is a former US Army intelligence officer and historian
- 2:43Speaker 1: professor at the University of Maryland and JMU James Madison University,
- 2:49Speaker 1: right down the road from where your boy's at now
- 2:52Speaker 1: in Harrisonburg, Virginia. I'm not sure if he is still
- 2:56Speaker 1: there and active or what. But this book here, I
- 3:05Speaker 1: think is a must read for any serious JFK researcher.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Now it is not JFK one oh one. It does
- 3:14Speaker 1: not hold your hand. Okay. It is very in depth, detailed,
- 3:24Speaker 1: going into deep structures and interweaving webs and components of
- 3:28Speaker 1: the CIA and the FBI and intelligence matters. Some people
- 3:38Speaker 1: didn't like it because it doesn't really give or go
- 3:42Speaker 1: into too much detail about Oswald and his background. But
- 3:46Speaker 1: that's not what this book is supposed to be. And
- 3:50Speaker 1: don't let the title mislead you. Oswald and the CIA
- 3:56Speaker 1: this book does not, I guess it explore the fact
- 4:02Speaker 1: that Oswald was undercover CIA, right. No, it more concentrates
- 4:10Speaker 1: on finding documents that prove that the CIA was aware
- 4:17Speaker 1: of Lee Harvey Oswald and what he was doing pretty
- 4:22Speaker 1: much at all turns and who in the ci knew
- 4:26Speaker 1: what And when he analyzes routing slips, documents, sign offs,
- 4:34Speaker 1: he goes and interviews, you know, some of the most
- 4:37Speaker 1: important people that were in the CIA at the time.
- 4:44Speaker 1: He draws on the at the time the newest JFK
- 4:50Speaker 1: file releases. Uh. He does acknowledge the work of the
- 4:55Speaker 1: A R A R R B and acknowledges the fact
- 5:02Speaker 1: that he used a lot of their declassified records. Now,
- 5:08Speaker 1: this book was put out as a second edition in
- 5:10Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, I believe, for the thirty fifth
- 5:16Speaker 1: anniversary of JFK's murder. But the actual structure of the
- 5:23Speaker 1: book itself didn't really change. There was just some addendums
- 5:27Speaker 1: made or some new thoughts from John Newman, and that
- 5:30Speaker 1: would be this version over here. I have a OG
- 5:40Speaker 1: copy in nineteen ninety five first edition copy. Unfortunately it
- 5:44Speaker 1: was not signed and I got this bad boy at
- 5:52Speaker 1: Wonder Books a long long time ago for four dollars
- 5:56Speaker 1: and ninety five cents. That is a steal, folks, That
- 6:01Speaker 1: is a steal. It is currently on Amazon. If you
- 6:07Speaker 1: want a new hardcover, it's gonna set you back about
- 6:10Speaker 1: thirty five dollars. If you want the paperback, it's about
- 6:14Speaker 1: thirty five bucks. But there are copies on Amazon for
- 6:18Speaker 1: as low as two dollars and seventy nine cents, so
- 6:26Speaker 1: that's not too bad. And again, uh, you know, this
- 6:34Speaker 1: book I think is invaluable if you're serious about researching
- 6:38Speaker 1: into the Kennedy case. I and sorry, John Newman has
- 6:43Speaker 1: always done excellent work. Always you know, dots his eyes
- 6:49Speaker 1: and crosses his t's when it comes to analyzing intelligence
- 6:55Speaker 1: reports documents. He has a very good understanding of what
- 7:00Speaker 1: these things actually mean, and not just oh it's a
- 7:04Speaker 1: piece of paper that's you know, with a lot of
- 7:07Speaker 1: initials on it and abbreviations and things like that. Now
- 7:11Speaker 1: he understands coming from his background, he understands the structure
- 7:18Speaker 1: of how things work in US government and US intelligence.
- 7:23Speaker 1: So his perspective on things is I think very valuable. Now,
- 7:29Speaker 1: could this book use a upgrade? I think so, you know,
- 7:42Speaker 1: in light of all of the documents that have been
- 7:45Speaker 1: released in the past thirty one years since this book
- 7:50Speaker 1: came out, Man, I tell you. I think he could
- 7:57Speaker 1: do even better than he did with this book. And
- 8:03Speaker 1: I'm not saying this book is bad. This book is
- 8:06Speaker 1: one that needed to come out at the time, and
- 8:11Speaker 1: it was very different than a lot of the other
- 8:14Speaker 1: ones coming out at the time, you know, who were
- 8:16Speaker 1: giving you all the basic stuff, you know, people thinking
- 8:20Speaker 1: outside of the box. You know, the nineties were kind
- 8:24Speaker 1: of a weird, a weird time for JFK books. But
- 8:30Speaker 1: Newman understood what these JFK file releases were going to
- 8:37Speaker 1: give us, and he realized that he needed to just
- 8:42Speaker 1: immerse himself fully into these things and out comes this book,
- 8:50Speaker 1: Oswald and the CIA fantastic book. Really honestly, don't have
- 9:01Speaker 1: any criticisms of it, other than it's a little repetitive
- 9:06Speaker 1: at times when when he's talking about different excuse me,
- 9:14Speaker 1: different structures in this CIA. You know, you don't have
- 9:18Speaker 1: to keep explaining it, but we get it, you know.
- 9:24Speaker 1: And prior to this book, and prior to the new
- 9:27Speaker 1: document releases, I think people mistook Oswald's relationship or the
- 9:33Speaker 1: CIA's relationship with Oswald as being kept under wraps for
- 9:41Speaker 1: a sinister purpose. You know, that Oswald was somehow working
- 9:45Speaker 1: for them, undercover, that Oswald was somehow working for them
- 9:49Speaker 1: as a defector, that Oswald was you know, acting as
- 9:54Speaker 1: an informant or whatever the case may be. This book
- 9:59Speaker 1: kind of showed you that there was lots of different
- 10:06Speaker 1: folks and different departments that were I wouldn't say keeping
- 10:11Speaker 1: an eye on Oswald, but definitely well, I mean you
- 10:15Speaker 1: could say that, you know, with the h T Lingual
- 10:17Speaker 1: program and uh, but you know, they weren't following this
- 10:21Speaker 1: guy around on a daily basis, but you know, he
- 10:24Speaker 1: he was doing plenty on his own, ah, doing most
- 10:31Speaker 1: notable things that would contribute to his to A one
- 10:35Speaker 1: file and other things that that you know were passed
- 10:39Speaker 1: around between the Soviet Russia Division, the Cuban Division, you know,
- 10:46Speaker 1: counter Counterintelligence Division, the CID, and you know, some folks
- 10:52Speaker 1: have wrapped these theories into you know, a mole hunt
- 10:59Speaker 1: or a marked card or what have you. And I
- 11:04Speaker 1: think that's trying to just take things a step too far.
- 11:10Speaker 1: But that's just my personal opinion. I think what these
- 11:15Speaker 1: documents do is paint a very vivid picture of how
- 11:23Speaker 1: the CIA was operating back then and what they were
- 11:27Speaker 1: doing and how they kept tabs on people. And again,
- 11:32Speaker 1: I can't recommend this book enough. You know, it's not
- 11:36Speaker 1: just about the documents either. It's there's a lot of
- 11:39Speaker 1: supporting stuff in here to go along with the documents
- 11:43Speaker 1: to make some of the speculations that he does make
- 11:47Speaker 1: about some things. And you know, just looking back because
- 11:51Speaker 1: I haven't read this book in many, many, many many years,
- 11:55Speaker 1: but looking back over it before the book review, you know,
- 11:59Speaker 1: and I noticed a subject in there that I was
- 12:02Speaker 1: just talking to Doug about earlier today that he's gonna
- 12:05Speaker 1: be covering on the next Quick Hits. And apparently Doug
- 12:11Speaker 1: has found something in the documents that contradicts Newman's view
- 12:16Speaker 1: of this certain person, or maybe a link that that
- 12:23Speaker 1: maybe Newman missed back in the day. But we're gonna
- 12:28Speaker 1: save that conversation for the next Quick hits for sure.
- 12:35Speaker 1: You know, Wow, I'm just gonna go ahead and give
- 12:42Speaker 1: this book a whopping nine guns up, nine guns up
- 12:52Speaker 1: for Oswald and the c I A. I can't recommend
- 12:58Speaker 1: it enough. It's an excellent book. Again, you gotta be
- 13:04Speaker 1: a serious researcher. You can't be a drive by researcher.
- 13:09Speaker 1: You're gonna open this book and you'll be like, oh,
- 13:11Speaker 1: what am I reading you gotta be a couple of
- 13:16Speaker 1: steps up here, and you have to have that mentality
- 13:20Speaker 1: of interest in the case and what our government is
- 13:25Speaker 1: actually doing, or else this book will lose you quickly. Okay,
- 13:31Speaker 1: But again, for those who are serious about the case,
- 13:34Speaker 1: this book has been an unvalued, invaluable research tool. I've
- 13:41Speaker 1: always admired and respected John Newman for writing this book.
- 13:45Speaker 1: I really don't give a shit about JFK and Vietnam
- 13:49Speaker 1: or his most latest series, but I do respect his work,
- 13:54Speaker 1: especially on this book and his stuff with Vessiana and
- 13:58Speaker 1: military intelligence. And again, I've met the guy. I don't
- 14:06Speaker 1: like the guy. They say, never meet your heroes. I
- 14:10Speaker 1: made a mistake and did it. And you know, despite
- 14:15Speaker 1: all that, I'm gonna give the guy his flowers for
- 14:18Speaker 1: what he has done, what he's contributed to the case.
- 14:20Speaker 1: I think he's an invaluable and very important asset to
- 14:24Speaker 1: have on the conspiracy side of the case. He's very respected,
- 14:29Speaker 1: he's hard to argue with, and he brings the documents
- 14:34Speaker 1: and that's what we like around here. So again, with
- 14:37Speaker 1: that being said, nine guns up, baby, And if you
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