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82. The Greatest of These Is Love: Raising Kids Who Know How to Love Well · A Heart That Beats for Home

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  SPEAKER_00: Hey friends, I'm Nikki Smith, your host here at A Heart That Beats for Home, the podcast where we're ditching filters and diving headfirst into the raw beauty of all things home.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, I am no expert when it comes to this whole parenting and marriage dance.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm simply a gal who's been riding the mom roller coaster for 22 years and a wife still untangling the mystery of it all 25 years after saying I do.
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  SPEAKER_00: My goal is to bring you unapologetically messy and boldly genuine conversations about cultivating strong families.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna laugh, possibly cry, and straight talk about the joy and chaos that comes within the four walls that we call home.
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  SPEAKER_00: No judgment and certainly no perfection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just real talk from my heart, a heart that beats for home.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's dive in.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, friends.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another week.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Grateful to have you here with us for yet another Thursday.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are, if you are listening live in the second week of February and talking about love.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: It is Valentine's Day week.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as I was working on programming, of course, the initial thought is let's do an episode on Valentine's Week about love, marriage.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I had to take a pause and really think through what I wanted to talk about today because we are coming into, in a couple of weeks, the most amazing four-week series on marriage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Super excited for you guys to be able to listen in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some of the recordings are done, and I am just blown away by the four couples we are going to hear from four different couples in a series called Marriage Through the Decades.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have a couple that's been married in between the 10 and 20 years, another couple 20 to 30, another 30 to 40, and then finally a couple in their 44th year of marriage.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so just some honest conversation with husbands and wives together.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have felt very strongly like God has been prodding my heart towards trying to have more couples on the show every year to be able to hear just also the male perspective of cultivating a strong family, of what it looks like in marriage and parenting, the different stresses that we carry, just allowing men to speak into what it feels like for them in these roles.
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  SPEAKER_00: As I obviously can't speak to that, I'll never be able to understand the pressures of being the husband, of being the father, of being the one responsible for providing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so just super, super excited about that four-week series that's coming up in March and excited because there's so much wisdom in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also excited because there are some really special people that have agreed to do the interviews.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two in particularly that go way back in my life and in my marriage and have been really instrumental in the formation of who I am, of who Jed and I are our marriage.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so just super excited to have those conversations coming.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so as I was processing through that, really wanted to think through not that we have to follow any kind of programming because of the holidays that are here, but I feel like Valentine's is one that's just a natural, especially in the wheelhouse that a heart that beats for home operates in of family and children relationship, parent relationships, parent children, siblings, husband, wife, we deal a lot with relationship.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as I was thinking about it, the verse that kept coming back to me was the verse in Matthew about the greatest of these is love.
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  SPEAKER_00: The greatest of all these commandments is that you love one another.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's above all the other ones.
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  SPEAKER_00: And really just got me thinking about what does that look like in a home?
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  SPEAKER_00: What does that look like if the greatest of these is love when we're raising kids, when we're in a marriage, and how do we really make that a priority?
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  SPEAKER_00: It is so clear throughout the Bible in so many different places that it is a command and it's a daily way of living.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not something that we visit every once in a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Bible reminds us that the greatest of these things that we can do is love.
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  SPEAKER_00: We hear about it when it talks about our spiritual maturity, when it says in John 13 that you will be known for your love.
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  SPEAKER_00: People will know that you are a disciple of mine because of how you love others.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was reading yesterday in my Bible and already knowing that this was the episode that was going to be recorded for today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was reading in Romans 13, 8, where it said, have no financial debt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Make sure that you don't carry financial debt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pay those off.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't hold on to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: The only debt that you should have is love and thinking of that as a love debt, basically a commitment to you're never going to arrive, you're never going to have loved enough that you've met a quota.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's this ongoing, never paid off, never have you loved enough to be debt-free in this area.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a constant reminder that we are to love and outlove and keep loving over and over again, because the Bible says it is the greatest commandment of the ones that we've been given.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if love for God is proven by how we love people, we can't separate the two.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can't say, I love God, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's Bible verses about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love God in John, first John 4, there's a couple verses that talk about if you say that you love me, but yet you hate your brother or sister, you can't have that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can't say I love God and yet not show love for the people here on earth that we do life with, the strangers that we come in contact with.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I just really, as I was processing through all of this, just felt strongly that today a really great topic for Valentine's Day would be to dig into biblical foundation of love and what does that look like in family?
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  SPEAKER_00: If we really want to have marriages that love, if we want to raise kids who know how to love, what does that look like?
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  SPEAKER_00: What are some of the core things that we need to be looking at?
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  SPEAKER_00: And how can we apply that into our daily living as a growth pattern?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I want to start before we even dig into this by saying one of my biggest concerns or fears, anxieties, whatever bucket you want to put it into.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I started this podcast three years ago, was my husband and I are not parent experts.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have not done it all right.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have not produced three perfect kids that are now the prototype models of if you parent this way, this is what will happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: You all know as well as I do that we do the very best that we can, always hoping to grow and get better and to be refined in the process.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also knowing that we're parenting from a place of humanness and sin and fallenness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're raising sinful humans who have their own sin nature and their own way of doing things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're putting all of these sinful people who are in the process of being sanctified, who are in the process of trying to be more Christ-like, but still human and still fallen.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so anytime that I come with any of these topics, I'm parenting or marriage, I just want to preface that this is not coming from a place of this is a four-step process.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you do this, you will have arrived.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've cracked the code.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is just me humbly coming to you guys week after week with things that I'm processing, that I'm thinking on, that I'm praying through, that I'm wrestling with and navigating.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I have to believe that in a place of being authentic and vulnerable, it meets others in the exact same place.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because although every single one of us listening, I'm sure would love to be able to check the box that says, my family loves each other 100% all of the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: My husband and I operate in a marriage that is pure 1000% evidence of Christ-like love all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Check, check.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course, that's what we would love to have be reality, but it's not.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's not a home on the planet that could check that honestly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm right there with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am one that every day there are things, especially working on today's podcast, there are things where I say, Man, I could have done that better.
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  SPEAKER_00: I should have done that better.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't show love there.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's a refining process of asking God to make you aware of the places where you are falling short, where maybe pride or distraction, selfishness, any of these things are getting in the way of really loving others well, specifically those that have been entrusted to us right here in our home.
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  SPEAKER_00: So digging into the biblical foundation of love.
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  SPEAKER_00: First of all, what is biblical love?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's very different than what the world talks about as love, is very often feelings, attraction, chemistry, the hearts and the goo-goo eyes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But biblical love is based on action, commitment, and self-giving or selflessness.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a total agape love, very different than the love that we see when we talk specifically about Valentine's Day, which is all surface flowers and chocolate and dates and the old saying, love is a verb.
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  SPEAKER_00: Biblical love is more action.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, it's those commitments, it's self-giving, it's serving others in a way that puts them above ourselves, even often when it cost us a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: When it cost us laying down our own desires, when it cost us maybe having to hold our tongue, when it cost us not being able to do maybe what we thought was going to go one way, we have to go another way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because biblical love is chosen, not accidental.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's active, not passive, sacrificial, not self-seeking, and rooted in truth, not just in emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we have something that's chosen, active, sacrificial, and rooted in truth, it is going to have some cost to us.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in the process of learning to love this way, learning to love the way that the Bible talks about love, not the world, it is refining us.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's where it's saying they will know that you are disciples by your love.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's this kind of love.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the love that's choosing others over ourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not just saying the right things, that's active and doing them.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not deciding, well, I'm not going to love there because that doesn't fit with my agenda.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's not just an emotion, it's rooted in solid truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ultimately, in our homes, when we're talking about love, it's a decision to act for somebody else's good, even when it's inconvenient, even when it's uncomfortable, and even when it's unseen.
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  SPEAKER_00: In 1 Corinthians 13, when Jesus is teaching about love, it says, love is patient and kind.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does not envy or boast.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is not self-seeking.
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  SPEAKER_00: It keeps showing up.
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  SPEAKER_00: It tells the truth with grace and it endures, which daily activity means love is how we speak, it's how we discipline, it's how we forgive, it's how we stay, and it's how we serve.
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  SPEAKER_00: So love is not so much about what we feel, it's how faithfully we act in our homes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as parents, love is what our children experience consistently in our home, not just occasionally, because true love can't just have a really good Friday night.
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  SPEAKER_00: Real love is a consistent way that we show up for our kids in our home.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna read a quote at the end of the podcast that I came across yesterday that really just sat heavy with me, made me really think and contemplate.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so some good gut checks as we go through this about what the overall atmosphere of our home is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so love is a daily choice to reflect God through our care, our words, our actions, and our presence.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, in digging into this, I wanted to break it down into four different ways that we can see biblical love and what that looks like in a family.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the first one is love is learned through modeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: Children absolutely absorb how love behaves by watching their parents.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, as much as I hate, that is just the reality that we are modeling every single day for our kids what love looks like in real life in the way that we behave in relationship with our spouses, in the way that we communicate, in the way that we use our body language, in the way that we put others' needs ahead of ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are we trying to outlove our spouse or are we trying to make sure that the scorecard is even?
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  SPEAKER_00: You owe me, I'm too up on you.
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  SPEAKER_00: You didn't do what you said you were gonna do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna give you the cold shoulder, or it's gonna be tense in here and the kids are gonna feel it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Love is learned through modeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the number one way that we do that as parents is by how we behave with our spouses.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right along with that is that apologizing shows humility and teaches restoration.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, like I said earlier, none of us will ever have a marriage where we model love perfectly.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's humanly impossible.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fallen people in love are never going to model love perfectly.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think one of the most beautiful things that we can do as parents is apologize in front of our kids, apologize instantly in a moment, especially with our spouses, also to our children.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know that there have been times where I have been negative towards my husband.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have said puffing and puffing things about him in front of my children that I absolutely shouldn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've had to in that exact moment sometimes, the times when it's instant, I'm grateful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's me having to break down my pride and come back to it in an hour or later in the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: But anytime that we can come to our kids and say, hey, how I treated your dad, what I said about your dad, the way that I made those cutting comments, the way that I was passive aggressive, the way that I changed my body language, or the way that I gave him the cold shoulder, that was totally wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was my pride.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was my selfishness.
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  SPEAKER_00: You fill in the blank, whatever it was.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: I should not have treated him that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't have said those things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I apologize for doing that because it was wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: You apologize to your spouse in front of your kids sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's often this space that we feel like all those conversations need to be done in private.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would argue that there are very often times that it is way more beneficial for at least the initial part of that conversation to happen in front of our kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: In the same way that if I've done something unloving to one of my kids, I don't have to wait to get that kid alone to have the beginning of that conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can say to if it's to my son, I can say, hey, how I responded to you was not loving.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was not kind.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was out of frustration and lack of self-control on my part.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I apologize for the tone of my voice and for the things that I said.
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  SPEAKER_00: You and I can talk about it more in depth later, but I just want right now you to know that I apologize and I was wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is powerful for your kids to see in a parent-child relationship.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's important then because our kids start to communicate that way between each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've seen it in my own kids where something happens and somebody will say, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm frustrated or I need to walk away.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm exhausted, I'm overstimulated, fill in the blank, whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: But apologizing in our home shows humility and teaches restoration.
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  SPEAKER_00: It teaches that we will not just continue to bull down a path of destruction and continue to be unkind and unloving and selfish.
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  SPEAKER_00: We will address it right here, right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then grace during stressful situations or stressful moments demonstrates unconditional care.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of times in family where there are stressful moments.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are stressful situations.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would say parents specifically, a lot of times are in these situations carrying a lot of even silent stressors that our kids have no idea about.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I do think more and more we are living in a world where our children are carrying unbelievable stressors that we might not see that are underneath the surface, whether that's relationships, friendship things, social media stresses that come or feeling left out.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are so many different things that our kids are also dealing with.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: I believe that a lot of times what's overflowing is evidence of unsettledness in a spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we have grace for each other during stressful moments, that models and demonstrates for our kids unconditional care.
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  SPEAKER_00: It says, okay, I see that you're kind of falling apart.
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  SPEAKER_00: I see that you're acting in ways that aren't very loving, but I'm going to have grace to walk through this stressful moment with you and to try to get to the other side where we can repair that and we can maybe fix some of the stressors or at least give attention to some of the stressors without then you're acting this way towards me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm going to ratchet it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to come back at you with a passive aggressive, or I'm going to come back at you with unkind or cutting words because that's how you came at me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think grace during stressful moments demonstrates unconditional care and builds an unbelievable amount of trust within the home.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the first way that biblical love is formed in a family is love is learned through modeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: The second way is love is an action, not just an emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: A couple of practical things that came to mind in this is love is choosing patience when I'm tired.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is where it's hard for me to love.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I am exhausted, when I feel like the to-do list is still a million miles long, when I am in a zone on something and trying to get things done, love is choosing patience even when I'm tired.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yesterday, just a silly example, I was deep into the notes for today's podcast and I was doing a weight workout.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: And because it is so cold, although it's starting to be beautiful these last couple of days, the last couple of weeks have been so freezing here in the Midwest.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: And so we have a gym in our garage and I'm working with a personal trainer and it was just too cold out in the garage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like no matter what, I couldn't do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like my hands were burning off because the weights when I would pick them up were just so frozen solid.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I've been working out in our living room doing some of these weighted workouts.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yesterday I had just, I felt a little off, just a little irritated, groggy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just didn't feel like I was at full strength, but I knew I had to get my workout done.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I was doing my workout in the living room.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: And my son was working on stuff in the kitchen at the kitchen counter.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: He was on the computer looking at some stuff.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: And as I'm like literally breathing to save my life through some of this workout, he is wanting to engage in a conversation about the new insoles that he thinks he needs for his basketball shoes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And everything in me wanted to be like, can you not see that I am barely surviving?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: I am dying over here.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: This is not the time for the conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Literally, this love is choosing patience when I'm tired kept coming back to me.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: And to be able to be like, having a conversation with him is not going to kill me, although I feel like it is going to.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can say, hey, bud, yep, that's a great thought.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can we talk about that when I catch my breath?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Or can we sit down and look at that when I'm not in the middle of this workout?
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: But the human part of me wanted to be like, dude, get a grip.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you not see what's happening?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: But I know that he wasn't trying to do anything other than have a conversation.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's just choosing patience when we're tired.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's kindness in ordinary moments that builds security.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: When we show love and kindness in ordinary moments, it builds security for our children.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this can be in small acts of service.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: This can be in sending a quick text message when you're thinking about your kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can be a super kind compliment when they do something or you see them interact with somebody else in a great way, or you're proud of their work ethic or the way that they're applying themselves to different things or their consistency in showing up or their diligence in their workplace or the good review that they got or the good remark from a teacher about how they're helpful in the classroom, kindness and love is shown in ordinary moments.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: And when we do those things, it builds security.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so even this week, as Valentine's Day is approaching, or if you're listening to this after Valentine's Day, again, it doesn't matter that it's February 14th when we are building biblical love within our family.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: This is a 365 days a year kind of love.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so just something simple to think, man, what's one small tiny thing I can do this week to show each person in my family, each of my children, my spouse, a small little way, an ordinary moment where I can show love that will build security and start to maybe make that a rhythm that you keep track, not keep track of for score, but just mentally being aware of.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Have I done a good job this week at showing ordinary kindness and love to my children, to my husband?
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  SPEAKER_00: Above and beyond, I cooked the meals, I cleaned the house, they had laundry, I drove them where they need to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, those are all good.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: And yes, those are all sacrificial, loving ways that we show up for our family.
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  SPEAKER_00: But are there little small things that you can go above and beyond?
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  SPEAKER_00: A note on the backpack, a note in the lunch, their favorite drink when they come home from school, a fresh baked cookie on a hard day.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever it, you know, your children, you know your spouse.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: What is it?
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: Is it a quick text to your husband?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for working so hard for us.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: One of the things that I try to do on a regular basis is let my husband know that I am very aware that we are living a beautiful life.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that beautiful life is coming because of a lot of intention and sacrifice on his part in the way that he is so disciplined and so diligent and selfless in the way that he provides for our family.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so, what are small ordinary moments that you can show love?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's also serving your family when unnoticed.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: And the key about this is when we serve our family in unnoticed ways, it forms our character.
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  SPEAKER_00: It forms who we're becoming.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, this kind of goes back to what I was just saying about my husband, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: When somebody is going to work every day to provide a paycheck, to put food on the table, that a lot of times feels unseen, although it's obvious and we can see that they're going, the act of what it actually is producing often goes unseen.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: So often the things that we do around the home as moms go completely unseen.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody is keeping track of it, nobody is recognizing what's happening.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: But as we do those things, as we learn to love in a form of service to others, that builds our character.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then hopefully the more we do that, the more our kids, like we said in the first one, will model what they don't see as.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Doing, but that overall they know is happening.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Kids in a home do know, even if it's not seen and recognized on the daily, they know somebody is providing an income that's keeping this roof over our heads, that's putting gas in the cars, that's putting food on the table.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: They know that there's clean clothes in their dresser and that there's match socks and that there's clean underwear and that there's food in the fridge.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: And although the day-to-day of it might feel very unappreciated and unseen, by doing that, we are showing our children the silent acts of love that happen in a home.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: And hopefully, Lord willing, they will start to model that as well.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Lastly, the daily decisions of love and action, not just love as an emotion, shapes the emotional climate of our home.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: The things that we do day to day, the daily decisions that we make and how we communicate.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like this could be a whole 10-part series on love in the home, but how we show up every day is establishing the climate of our home.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Is it putting people on guard for battle?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Or is the way that we show up in our home actually disarming for battle?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Is it allowing people who maybe feel charged up, who maybe come into the house feeling like they have to have a shield and a sword because everything feels like it's coming at them and it's an attack?
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Do they come into the home and feel like, okay, this is a safe place for me to take off my armor, to be transparent, to be authentic, because I am secure and I know that this is a place where people love me, not just as an emotion, but as an action, where there's grace, where there's humility, where there's selflessness and there's a commitment to loving others well.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so every single decision that we make in the day, in how we show up in our home, is creating the emotional climate.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: This is a really good test, again, for a lot of us to say, do we feel like we're always at battle in our home?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: And if we are, what decisions are we making that are making people show up armed and ready to go into battle because they feel like they are literally living, sleeping, breathing, and eating on a battlefield?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: And then what do we need to do to dismantle that?
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: A verse here that I think is important is first John 3.18, which says, Let us not love with words or speech, but with actions and in truth.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: And when we start with actions and truth, obviously the love and the words and the speech is going to overflow from that out of the overflow of our heart, the mouth speaks.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so when we are operating from a place of truth and love and action, those other things were overflow.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: But it can't just be words without action.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: That creates the most unstable, unsettling environment for both marriages and children when we say all the right loving things and then none of the actions are backing it up.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: So number two is love is action, not just emotion.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: The third thing that shows biblical love in a family is that love includes truth and discipline.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: I really feel that in our world, we have gotten this one way wrong.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: I see so much that love means everybody just gets to do their thing and there's not a lot of boundaries, and we just a tolerance for you do you, I'll do me.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: And in a home and in society, it does not work.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: It does not work without boundaries.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: I recently saw a quote that said teenagers don't actually hate boundaries.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: They relax inside of them.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that that just that visual picture of what we think creates a lot of tension.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: When we have rules and we have guidelines and we think, oh, the kids aren't gonna like this or this is too strict.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: The reality is love does not mean permissiveness.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: It does not mean without borders, without boundaries.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: A boundary is an expression of a long-term love for our kids.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Without boundaries, we say, good luck.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: I hope that you can figure it out.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: But when we build a framework for our kids that has clear boundaries, that has clear expectations, that has clear understanding of consequences that will come when we don't live within boundaries.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: Discipline then says, this is the clearest expression of the fact that I have a long-term love for you.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: I care so much about who you are becoming that I am willing to go to battle about this restriction or these boundaries of having truth and discipline in our home because I love you enough to be sure that we're leading you in the right way and that we're not giving you this unlimited runway to try to figure out.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I see so much right now in our world where kids are given this runway of just run and go and see and express yourself and experience whatever it's about.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe you'll learn along the way.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's dangerous.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's super dangerous.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it creates a lot of instability in the hearts and minds of young children, teenagers, young adults.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Just that, again, that quote that said teenagers don't hate boundaries, they relax inside of them.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: I truly believe that our kids, when they know the expectations, they are appreciative of that.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: They have a sense of security within that.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Another really important about love, biblical love in families when we're talking about truth and discipline is that correction delivered with dignity builds or deepens love.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: It can be very easy for parents to, when we're trying to correct or when we're trying to redirect, to come at it with sometimes not a whole lot of dignity.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: And we can start to attack the person instead of the behavior.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's this difference of, hey, you made a mistake in this area versus you are a mistake.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: My son was just saying the other day about how the worst thing a parent could ever say to you is, I'm so disappointed in you.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: That is one of the harshest things a parent could ever say is I'm so disappointed in you.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: As opposed to dignity-centered correction says, I'm I'm super disappointed in this choice that you made.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: I love you.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: I will always love you, but the choice that you made is disappointing.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: That is very different than you've disappointed us.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: You are a disappointment.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: When we're correcting our children and we're doing it in a way with dignity, that builds trust and it deepens love.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's not shame-based.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I feel like this correction piece could be another whole episode.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll dig into that later.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: But a non-same-based discipline that says, I love you.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm concerned with the behavior, but I love you unconditionally.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: And when we think about this as biblical love, if God didn't deal with me in dignity and he didn't deal with me in a non-shame-based way, I can't imagine what my day-to-day life would feel like, the amount of guilt and shame that would be associated with my life because of the constant daily mishaps, the sin that creeps in.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: If God's reaction to me was, you are a loser of a daughter, you are a failure.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: I've told you so many times, I can't believe that you're stupid enough that you can't figure this out.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: Have you not learned anything?
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: If this was the way that God would come to me through scripture, and that's how He would deal with me, it would be a very difficult way to live.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so often I think that's how we operate with our spouses and we operate with our kids.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so, just again, looking at this dignity-based correction and also the importance of biblical love has boundaries and clear borders.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that actually is the clearest expression to our children that I love you so much, I'm willing to set up these parameters.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: A couple of verses for that one in case you need some backup on this, because this is biblical discipline and boundaries as parents in our own lives.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many clear verses for that.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: But as we're disciplining our children, there are so many verses that tell us that boundaries are important.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hebrews 12, 6 says, For the Lord disciplines the one he loves and chastens every son whom he receives.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: So this is talking about how the Lord disciplines us.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Proverbs 3, 11 and through 12 says, My son, do not despise the Lord's discipline or be weary of his reproof, for the Lord reproves him who he loves in the same way of father the son in whom he delights.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that it says, as a father the son in whom he delights.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's connecting the a father who delights in his son.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Delight is a big word.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: A son whose father delights in him is the father who is going to discipline him, who is going to correct and narrow in and put boundaries and discipline.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: It is because he finds delight in him.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so just verses that reaffirm that we need to be doing this.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: And here again, a contrast between the world and biblical love would be that love of the world, Valentine's Day love, is one that affirms good feelings.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: Or biblical love, when it corrects and preserves dignity, it builds strength.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: So it's much different than feeling good.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's about building strength.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: A couple of years ago in my son's logic class, we were working through some of his homework together, and there was a quote: truth without love kills, and love without truth lies.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: And that stuck with me.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: I have thought of that probably a hundred times since him and I sat together and read that quote.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: But again, truth without love kills, and love without truth lies.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's this balance of when we love somebody, we have to speak the truth to them in love.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: And if we don't, we're not being honest.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: When we see things in our kids' life or when my spouse sees things in my life and we are not able to speak truth, then we are telling lies because true love has to be able to speak truth.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: But the other side of that is when we are sometimes so quick to tell somebody truth, point out the things that we see or where they need rebuking or correction, and we do it without love, it kills.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it's this beautiful balance of truth and love when sitting together.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: I love you enough that I can't lie to you, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell it to you in a way that's loving, as opposed to you need to know the truth.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm I don't care if you feel loved through it.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna handle it gently.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna do it with dignity.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: It kills, it fractures relationship, it puts up walls, it builds animosity between people.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: It positions us to stonewall and to not be vulnerable.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that is just one of the greatest little two-liners that if we all could learn to apply, truth without love kills and love without truth lies.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then lastly, the fourth thing that biblical love does is it teaches kids how to love others.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: One of the ways that it does that is it encourages children to notice others' needs, not just their own needs, but the needs of the other people that are living in the home.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: It allows siblings to be aware of the other siblings' needs.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: It allows children to be aware of parents' needs, parents to be aware of children's needs, husbands to be aware of wife's needs, wife's to husbands.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: And when love is modeled, it allows us to look outward to see what other people in our space need.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think it is powerful when we can share struggles as a family.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: We are pretty big on this.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: I know that everybody probably has their own feelings, but I think there's two ways of dealing with struggles.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: There are families who will work very individually with a child who is having a struggle and keep it very private.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then there are families that recognize, and I'm not going to say that one is right and one is wrong.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is a personal preference.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's dynamics in a home.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Jed and I feel pretty strongly that it is important that our family knows that other people are going through struggles when there's struggles.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't mean that every single detail needs to be laid out.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't mean that there's exposure that doesn't need to be had of one kid that's struggling with something to all of his siblings.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: But I think there is a very real, tangible way that when we can say, hey, girls, your brother is really struggling with fill in the blank.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: And he could really use some encouragement.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: He could use you coming alongside of him, or hey, your sister is really struggling with this, or this is a new season in her life, and she's really struggling with this aspect, or she's feeling overwhelmed, or she's struggling with some anxiety or depression, or fill in the blank.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Mom is in a season of work that seems really busy and is really causing her to feel like she's dropping the ball in other areas, or dad is so run thin because of work deadline.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Again, fill in the blanks.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Is it sickness?
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Is it illness?
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: Is it a sin pattern?
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Is it it could be so many different things?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: But when we have trust enough in a family, which again, it's important that the foundation is good, or we can't get to this point.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is the overflow, the first three points when they're modeled and handled well, when there's discipline and structure and there's modeling and there's actions, not just words, then we get to this outpour of this is a safe place that we can share our struggles together and we can all be all in for each other.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: The other thing it does is it practices empathy in everyday situations.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: How can we come around?
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: When I was just talking about this person is struggling.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: So then how can we be empathetic family members and come around that person?
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: How can we support dad in that?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: How can we support your brother or your sister or your mom in that situation that they're dealing with?
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: It also teaches real-time forgiveness between siblings.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: When our children are, again, watching this model, it allows them to let things not go unaddressed.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I know we talked about this a little bit earlier, but the importance of when we see that things are out of balance, when we see that there's a lot of not loving things that are happening, not letting that sit, not letting that fester, having a family meeting, coming together and saying, hey, we need to talk about what's going on.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: There is clearly some divide.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: There is clearly some tension.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: And what are we gonna do?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're not leaving this living room, we're not leaving these couches until we have come together and been honest and been transparent.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: We've taken care of each other with our words and how we're saying things, we're treating each other with dignity, but also having hard conversations, truth with love.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: How are we gonna have those conversations so we can get to the bottom of issues?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because biblical love doesn't say you're all gonna love each other well.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that because of that, there's not gonna be any issues or problems.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's not what it says.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's when issues and problems arise, we are going to choose biblical love and how we deal with and how we process through these situations.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then also teaches our kids how to love well by speaking life and encouragement regularly inside the home, that this should be the default, not the exception.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: That we should live in a home that's not full of fluff, but that's character-based love and encouragement and affection.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: The Bible verses in Proverbs that I just go to over and over.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's the verses about the power of the tongue speaks life or death.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: And when we realize the impact that we have from the time we get out of bed till the time we go to sleep, that we speak more words over our children than probably it depends upon their age and obviously they're in school and things.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: But as far as words that carry weight, there's the whole sermon by Andy Standy that talks about the proximity of the person speaking the words carries the most weight.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: So people in close proximity carry a heavier weight with their words, which tells me, as parents, as siblings, our words probably carry the heaviest weight to our children.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: They hit the heaviest, they cause the most calm when done in the right way.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: And what can we do to speak life and encouragement regularly inside our home?
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: So that becomes the default of how our children talk to each other, how our children talk to us.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then ultimately how our children go out into the classrooms, into their communities, into their workplaces and how they deal with conflict, how they speak to others, how they breathe encouragement and life and not death and doom into the people they come around.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: Ephesians 432 tells us be kind and compassionate to one another and forgive one another.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: And when we learn to live in a home with biblical love that does these things that we talked about, it models its actions, not just words.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: It includes truth and discipline.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then it flows out of our home into the community, into the classrooms, into the places that we go and walk, that Lord willing, I hope it's your prayer.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: It is absolutely my prayer, that people would know that I, that my children, that my husband are disciples of Jesus because of the way that we love others.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Again, never perfectly, always looking to do better, to refine, to continue to be sanctified, but that we would have a default of love, not just the occasional time that it creeps out, but the default of our lives would be that of love.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so as we're in this Valentine's week, I hope that is something that you will just sit on, that maybe you will identify a couple of different ways that maybe adjustments need to be made.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: I know that I'm constantly looking in our own home.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: Where are ways that I need to discipline with more dignity?
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Where are ways that I need to be patient even when I'm tired?
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: Where are the ways that I need to show more action and not just words?
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: Where are the small moments that I can pour love out to the people that I live with, especially for things that feel unseen or unnoticed?
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: Just putting these things in front of us, maybe memorizing some of these verses as a family.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so this Valentine's Day week, maybe this is a great conversation to have with your family.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna include in the show notes a link to a family guide that has some great questions.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: It has a seven-day challenge that you can take if you want.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: Again, it's not just because it's Valentine's Day if you're listening to this.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: In the middle of December as a playback, there's never a bad time to work on implementing biblical love in our homes and in our families.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: I had mentioned earlier that I wanted to close today by reading something really specific that I saw online that really resonated with me yesterday and made me really pause and think.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna read this here and then we'll close out for today.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: It says, Someday your child will describe their childhood to someone you've never met.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: They'll sit at a table you didn't set in a home you didn't build, across from people who only know them as adults.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: And they'll tell a story about what it was like to grow up in your house.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Not every detail, just the parts that stayed.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: The feelings of walking through the door, the tone at the table, whether home felt warm or unwelcoming, joyful or tense, safe or performative.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: You don't get to choose the story they tell.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: You don't get to edit it later.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: But we are writing it now in ordinary dinners and random Tuesday nights and moments like the one you're sitting in right this second.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: Long after the Legos are gone and the schedules change and the house gets quieter, the stories of home keep speaking.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I think often about what will feel familiar to them later.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: The sounds of plates, the welcome at the door, the way we made room for friends and strangers and uncomfortable conversations and joyous celebrations.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: These are the things that stay.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: I can't choose the story they'll tell someday, but I can keep setting the table like it matters because it does.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: And this resonated so much with me because how we are showing up is what our children will remember.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: And again, I it's not about there's no family that practices love perfect.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: And the beautiful thing about God's grace is that it covers us as we grow as parents, when we can be humble, when we can apologize, when our children can see the evidence and evolution of a love that's getting deeper and more rooted in Christ as they're growing up, when small, consistent acts of love shape their lifelong identity, like this talks about.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: The goal is faithful love, not flawless parenting, not perfection, but in taking action in the moment and quote unquote setting the table for our children that God willing, in five years, 10 years, 20, 30 years down the road, when they're sitting at a table with other people who didn't know them as children, who didn't sit around our table, that they would have an overflowing feeling and memories of, I just felt loved.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: I felt like people took good care of me with the way they handled me, with the way they showed up for me, with the way my family operated, with a biblical view of love.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's my prayer for my home.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's my prayer for my kids.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: I would have to believe that it's the prayer for every one of you.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: If you're discouraged when you listen to this and you feel like you've fallen short, we all have in some degree.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: And the beautiful thing about God and about grace is that we can start making changes today.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so, although that quote can feel heavy and overwhelming, I hope that what it really does inside of you is that it stirs something that number one helps you remember that no family practices love perfectly.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's God's grace that covers our growth as parents.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: Think so thankful for that.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: And that these small, consistent acts of love that we do are shaping lifelong identity for our children.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: They will leave our home and they will remember these things that we did when we prayed.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Practice them, like the Bible says, that the greatest of these is love, that our kids would remember faithful love, not flawless parenting, but that they would think back about the days that they spent in our home and that they would overflow with gratitude for the biblical love that was practiced in our home.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: If there's places we need to adjust, let's adjust them.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let's make the commitment to be women and men who are raising children in homes who aren't defining love as feelings and attraction and chemistry, but that are raising children in homes that are built on biblical love, which is action, commitment, and self-giving.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just hope that there's some things that you've been able to take away from here.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: So many things that I'm gonna continue to think on and pray on and just continue to ask God to help me to love others in my circle better that then may ripple out outside of our home into the world and that people would know that we are his disciples because of the way that we love.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: So thanks for being here again for another week.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: We will be back here, same time, same place next week.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: So until then, friends, take care of