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Huddle Up | Jaguars 2025 Depth Chart Review and Surprises · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields
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Speaker 1: Huddle Group, Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL network analyst
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Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shatterick
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Speaker 1: bringing you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now and welcome in. It is
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Speaker 2: Wednesday of week one. It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 2: a busy program ahead the final roster review, the Panthers
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Speaker 2: Jaguars preview. We'll get into it, and the first overall
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Speaker 2: pick quarterbacks meet for the first time in the National
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Speaker 2: Football League, and some possible plans for Travis Hunter question mark.
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Speaker 2: Let's see what Bucky thinks about that. Huddle Up with
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, California, and at long last, Bucky Brooks. It
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Speaker 2: is Game Week Week WAT in the NFL. The Panthers
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Speaker 2: and the Jaguars at the Bank coming up Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, look a lot of excitement about this game.
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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of intrigue about the Liam con Era,
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Speaker 3: a lot of intrigue about how Trevor Lawrence is gonna look,
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Speaker 3: Travis Hunter playing both sides. Look, a lot of oz
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Speaker 3: will be on the Jacksonanth Jaguars and it performance. And
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Speaker 3: we don't want to make it bigger than what it
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Speaker 3: needs to be, but it certainly is a big game
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Speaker 3: for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: You want to get off to a good a good start, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: no doubt about that. Gotta get go on the right foot,
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Speaker 2: and then moving forward, built some things up. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of we'll get into the comments William
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Speaker 2: Cohen coming up a little bit later, Bucky, but and
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Speaker 2: his thoughts going into week one, so of the unknowns
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Speaker 2: and then what he knows about his team as well.
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Speaker 2: But before we dig deep into that final thoughts, Bucky
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Speaker 2: on the fifty three and he surprises for you when
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Speaker 2: it only came down to roster cut time.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there were any notable surprises. I think
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Speaker 3: the bigger thing is more so looking at the depth chart.
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Speaker 3: After the depth chart has been released, and you look
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Speaker 3: up and you see Dewey starting at safety, so he
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Speaker 3: won that job, starting opposite Eric Murray.
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Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd being named the starter.
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Speaker 3: I think that might have been one where people were
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Speaker 3: talking about that competition during him and venture of Miller.
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Speaker 3: But outside of that, I felt like a lot of
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Speaker 3: it was Chalk Travis Attien being the starter and so
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Speaker 3: the roster overall, like in terms of the fifty three,
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Speaker 3: in those things, I'm a big believer that James Gladstone
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Speaker 3: is going to continue to turn over the bottom portion
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Speaker 3: of the roster as they look to improve the team
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Speaker 3: by making sure that the bottom third is always competitive
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Speaker 3: and always in competition, because you're looking to see can
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Speaker 3: you add can you improve the depth of the overall team.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought, you know, by the time the fifty
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Speaker 5: three is cut, there shouldn't be that many surprises for
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Speaker 5: those of us who are really observing. But I thought
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Speaker 5: it was notable that two collegiate free agents make.
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Speaker 6: The roster at pass Rusher.
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Speaker 5: I don't know that I would have anticipated that at
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Speaker 5: the start, but by the end you were hearing they
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Speaker 5: did not want to let either of those guys go.
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Speaker 5: And I think Green has a little better chance to
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Speaker 5: be up immediately. But Bucky, that's significant equity at that spot.
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Speaker 5: To have the two kids who you didn't draft make
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Speaker 5: that at that spot. It really sort of plays into
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Speaker 5: what James Gladston sayt the very beginning and what you said, low.
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Speaker 6: Drafted players and collegiate free agents are.
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Speaker 5: Gonna have a chance around here Monheim, and you know
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Speaker 5: while le Quin Allen are going to matter, so they
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Speaker 5: believe in giving guys chances even though their draft equity
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Speaker 5: may not have been high.
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Speaker 3: Look, and I think if you want to have a
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Speaker 3: very competitive team, where Liam Porn has talked about competition
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Speaker 3: and all of the things that they want this coach
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Speaker 3: to be about, then you really have to have an
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Speaker 3: opportunity for undrafted and lower drafted guys to make the
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Speaker 3: team and not only make the team, but eventually vibe
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Speaker 3: for playing time and starting spots. Because if you do that,
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Speaker 3: what change is going forward? When you have drafts and
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Speaker 3: those things. Agents are going to steer players to Jacksonville
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Speaker 3: because they know they have a legitimate chance. That enhances
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Speaker 3: and upgrades the bottom third of the roster and it
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Speaker 3: makes the team better overall. And so if we can
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Speaker 3: stick with that premise, and the coaches buy into having
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Speaker 3: a blank slate when it comes to players and grading
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Speaker 3: players by their merrit and how they perform once they
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Speaker 3: get the Jacksonville as opposed to the draft position, then
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Speaker 3: you have a chance to really have a competitive team
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Speaker 3: from one to fifty three.
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Speaker 2: Now, let's get to head coach Liam Cohen earlier today.
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Speaker 2: A lot of unknowns, of course, in week one. What's
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Speaker 2: the offense going to look like? What's going on on
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Speaker 2: defense these unscouted looks from the opposition as well? Are
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Speaker 2: they going to be the same new personnel for Carolina?
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Speaker 2: A lot of unknowns in the first week, especially for
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Speaker 2: an offensive minded coach.
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Speaker 7: And Cohen, you're always curious how you'll be able to
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Speaker 7: run the football physically against another opponent, because you just
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Speaker 7: you've gone against your own team and you get used
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Speaker 7: to that, and so you get an evaluation only kind
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Speaker 7: of based on yourselves in a few small samples in
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Speaker 7: the preseason, like running the ball for four quarters effectively
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Speaker 7: staying with it, grinding it out when you've got to
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Speaker 7: get north the thirty carries maybe to go win the game,
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Speaker 7: and you know, you're just you're unsure of what that
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Speaker 7: looks I have confidence and believe, but you're not sure
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Speaker 7: what that would truly look like. And then you know,
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Speaker 7: making plays on the perimeter, right, Like, that's something that
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Speaker 7: you hope will show up up right when a fifty
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Speaker 7: to fifty ball opportunity comes or the balls in the air,
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Speaker 7: like are we coming down with it or are they
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Speaker 7: making a play on it? I think that's something that
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Speaker 7: you're eager to go see as well.
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Speaker 2: As the head coach earlier. We'll hear from more from
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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen coming up, and I guess Bucky, that's on
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Speaker 2: the offensive side, right. The same thing can be said
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Speaker 2: on defense too, How are they gonna stop the run?
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Speaker 2: What's the middle gonna look like? What's the question marks
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Speaker 2: at linebacker? How are you gonna answer that? Then a
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Speaker 2: whole new secondary? I mean, this is Week one in
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Speaker 2: a nutshell right here.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this Week one does a lot of uncertainty.
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Speaker 3: And the one thing that we know, particularly we should
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Speaker 3: know coming off with last year, whatever happened in the
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Speaker 3: preseason doesn't really matter.
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Speaker 4: Like we can talk about.
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Speaker 3: Like, oh we finished three and oh hin three one
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Speaker 3: and two, Like none of that matters.
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Speaker 4: It's about now trying to.
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Speaker 3: Figure out who you are in game, like, so there're
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Speaker 3: gonna be some things that you discover about your team
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Speaker 3: in the middle of the game where you have to
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Speaker 3: make tweaks and adjustments in those things. And so this
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Speaker 3: game will require you to be adaptable. You have to
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Speaker 3: have adjustments in hand. But really it's kind of like
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Speaker 3: a black slate and you're gonna have to kind of
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Speaker 3: paint it as we go along. It's one of those
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Speaker 3: things where you hope the team is made of the
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Speaker 3: right stuff so that regardless of what happens in the
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Speaker 3: first and second quarter, that you can settle in and
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Speaker 3: eventually get to playing to the identity of the team
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Speaker 3: that you want this team to eventually beat.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope I say this correctly. I like how
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Speaker 5: in tune Liam is with the fact that, look, these
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Speaker 5: guys have to go make plays on fifty to fifty balls.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 5: I think sometimes coaches can sort of get into what
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Speaker 5: they're scheming so much jp that you know, they forget
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Speaker 5: that at some point those guys have to go make
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Speaker 5: the plays. And he's very upfront and honest of Hey,
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Speaker 5: I want to run the ball, but I haven't seen
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Speaker 5: how these guys are really going to run the ball
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Speaker 5: four quarters.
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Speaker 6: How is it going to be when they're out, they're
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Speaker 6: on the field without me.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, without Dad in the room. Yeah, you got to
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Speaker 5: go out and do it. And I think he's very
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Speaker 5: I just like the realness that he approaches this with
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Speaker 5: of Look, guys, at some point, you got to go
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Speaker 5: win the fifty to fifty ball.
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Speaker 6: I don't know how you're gonna do it.
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Speaker 5: Yet, there's gonna be a moment with four minutes to
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Speaker 5: go in the second quarter when somebody gives up a
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Speaker 5: touchdown and they got to come off the field and
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Speaker 5: not be breathing hard and oh my god, what's gonna happen?
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Speaker 5: Go out there and get it done. And he's been
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Speaker 5: very upfront that that's what he's anxious to see, is
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Speaker 5: how these guys. You know, he talks so much about
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Speaker 5: the gray area for Trevor Lawrence, about the quarterback, but
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Speaker 5: I think he's curious to see what the whole team
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Speaker 5: looks like once they get into that gray area. And
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Speaker 5: for but if you haven't listened to Liam when he's
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Speaker 5: talking about the gray area, he's talking about when maybe
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Speaker 5: the eyes go red and things are off and you've
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Speaker 5: got a blitzing linebacker up front. He wants to know
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Speaker 5: if these guys are football players when the chips are down.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, a lot of it is, and
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Speaker 3: taking all the way back to like high school ball,
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Speaker 3: it comes down to attitude and effort, Like what does
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Speaker 3: your team look like?
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Speaker 4: Can your team continue to.
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Speaker 3: Play without being emotionally invested in the school board, whether
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Speaker 3: you're up, whether you're down. Can you can't continue to
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Speaker 3: give the same effort and play to the same standard
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Speaker 3: regardless of the score. And It's something that sounds hokey
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Speaker 3: and great in theory, but literally, what you want your
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Speaker 3: team to do is continue to play and perform regardless
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Speaker 3: of the circumstances and situation.
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Speaker 4: Liam understands this.
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Speaker 3: And look coming off of last year where we talked
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Speaker 3: about how tough the team was going to be and
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Speaker 3: this and that, and then you get hitting them out
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Speaker 3: and the team fall apart. Liam appears to have a
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Speaker 3: great awareness of all the things that we talk about
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Speaker 3: are great, But now that we're playing the game, can
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Speaker 3: we live up to what we've talked about when it
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Speaker 3: happens in real time? So I'm excited to see that too,
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Speaker 3: because that ultimately will be the measure of what this
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Speaker 3: team is and what this team could be down the road.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and JP, I don't want to overplay it, but
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Speaker 5: it just I've liked the fact that since day one,
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Speaker 5: even back, it feels like since March he's been talking
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Speaker 5: about that.
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Speaker 6: And maybe I'm overplaying it.
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Speaker 5: But it feels like he knows that that's what's important.
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Speaker 6: And I do believe that.
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Speaker 5: You know, if a coach keeps emphasizing something, just the
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Speaker 5: way they've emphasized the run at some point that I
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Speaker 5: think it was Doug Marone used to talk a lot
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Speaker 5: about the more you emphasize. If you emphasize something, that's
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Speaker 5: usually what you're gonna see. And so I'm very curious
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Speaker 5: about that. And I'm curious to see his play calling
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Speaker 5: when it really matters, because you can talk about practice
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Speaker 5: and preseason game, but we haven't seen this guy scheme
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Speaker 5: anything yet, and I think that's gonna be fascint I
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Speaker 5: think that's the unknown that is going to be really
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Speaker 5: interesting and fun to watch on Sunday.
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Speaker 6: Is you know about a play calling, talk about the scheme.
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Speaker 5: Or whatever, where he really goes and what he really
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Speaker 5: schemes and how he gets these guys open.
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Speaker 6: Is maybe the great unknown.
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Speaker 2: We don't know about this, and we'll come back in
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Speaker 2: just a few moments and get into some of that,
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Speaker 2: some of the pieces he will use to get that done,
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Speaker 2: including Travis Hunter and his expectations for usage in Week
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Speaker 2: one according to the depth chart. Also the quarterback matchup
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Speaker 7: They've responded the challenges thus far that I've been proud of,
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Speaker 7: you know, kind of everything that we've asked them to
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Speaker 7: do in so many ways. They've really worked their tails
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Speaker 7: off the do, which we've all appreciated as coaches. Is it,
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Speaker 7: you know, the finished final product that we're all hunting up. No,
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Speaker 7: it's not, but that's the beauty of it. But I
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Speaker 7: do think that it's a it's a group that understands
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Speaker 7: have an opportunity to improve and you know, improve our
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Speaker 7: play style and the way that we finished, the way
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Speaker 7: that we played the game. I've been pleased with their
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Speaker 7: you know.
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Speaker 4: Given up for.
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Speaker 7: A fumble, like, how are we going to respond? You
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Speaker 7: I've appreciated their response.
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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, of course, will be in the mix, listed
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Speaker 2: as a starting receiver, listed as a backup corner on
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Speaker 2: the unofficial depth chart. John in the game notes.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and some people were sort of, oh, why didn't
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Speaker 5: he starting on both sides. I think, in this day
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Speaker 5: and age, your nickel corner, which I'm not gonna say
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Speaker 5: he's a nickel corner, but he's going to play when
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Speaker 5: they are in passing situations. If you're playing extensively in
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Speaker 5: the nickel, Bucky, you're basically a starter in the NFL
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Speaker 5: these days, he's going to play extensively. I expect him
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Speaker 5: to play when the other team is needing to pass,
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Speaker 5: which is a lot in this league. And I expect
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Speaker 5: him to play a lot when the Jaguars are in
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Speaker 5: their schemes that have slot receivers in them, which is
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Speaker 5: a lot in this league.
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Speaker 6: So I think that's where he'll start.
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Speaker 3: Look, I think there's a lot of intrigue about Travis
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Speaker 3: Hunner how much he's gonna play it. Ultimately, I think
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars have been very transparent about how they're gonna
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Speaker 3: use him offense.
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Speaker 4: He's a one percent wide receiver and on defense.
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Speaker 3: He's a guy who's gonna play and these gotta have
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Speaker 3: it moments, got to get off the field situations, and
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Speaker 3: depending upon who we're playing and what personnel grouping they utilize,
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Speaker 3: primarily he may be on the field one hundred percent
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Speaker 3: of the time on defense, or he may be on
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Speaker 3: the field seventy five percent of the time. But we're
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Speaker 3: going to see him play a lot on each side
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Speaker 3: of the ball because he's one of the better athletes,
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Speaker 3: one of the better defenders, one of the better guys
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Speaker 3: when it comes to ball skills in those things. It's
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Speaker 3: just a matter of how can he withstand all of
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Speaker 3: the run, how can he handle the environment the elements
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Speaker 3: in those things, And the better he holds up, the
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Speaker 3: more he's gonna play.
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Speaker 4: Because he's that kind of special athlete.
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Speaker 2: That could change week to week as well. I mean
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Speaker 2: depending on the opponent, the matchup and the situation. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: maybe you don't need him as much on offense one week.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it is fascinating, and he's a smaller guy.
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Speaker 5: How he holds up will be interesting. Not playing playing
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Speaker 5: him in Nickel on defense would seem to have a
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Speaker 5: chance to limit the amount that he has to come
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Speaker 5: up and be a run stuffer. I honestly think I
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Speaker 5: want him playing like.
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Speaker 6: Ray Lewis No please, So I do have a.
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Speaker 5: Question for the analyst, is right, What's what does success
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Speaker 5: look like for Travis Hunter this year? I know my
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Speaker 5: I have my opinion, but it's not my show. I mean,
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Speaker 5: Bucky Brooks his name on the show. What you know
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Speaker 5: at the end of the season, you say, boy, good
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Speaker 5: season for Travis Hunter.
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Speaker 6: He did what he wanted her to do.
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Speaker 5: I want Bucky Saws, the analyst thoughts, move the stacks.
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Speaker 3: I think a successful season for Travis Hunter would be
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Speaker 3: one in which he makes a handful of splash players
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Speaker 3: on each side.
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Speaker 4: Of the ball.
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Speaker 3: I don't think we can put a number on his
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Speaker 3: production on offense because we still don't know what the
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Speaker 3: offense is gonna look like in terms of flow, run,
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Speaker 3: pass ratio in those things. I expect Brian Thomas Junior
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Speaker 3: to be the number one receiver, so the majority of
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Speaker 3: the balls she hit in his direction. But I think
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Speaker 3: Travis can be a nice compliment as a playmaking threat
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Speaker 3: over the middle of the field that can do some
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Speaker 3: of the crossing routes, some of the catching ron concepts
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Speaker 3: in those things. Defensively, his contributions are going to be
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Speaker 3: those in which he can make critical plays on passing downs,
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Speaker 3: meaning he helps them get off the field, he helps
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Speaker 3: them close out games because he gets a tip deflection,
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Speaker 3: makes a great interception in those things. I think a
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Speaker 3: lot of it would be judging on our eyes and
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Speaker 3: not with.
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Speaker 4: The stat sheet sheds. Stat sheet sheds. Can he make plays?
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Speaker 3: Can he do it and not get involved with the
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Speaker 3: tongue twisters that I just get involved with without even
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Speaker 3: purposely doing it.
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Speaker 2: She sells seashells down the sea shore, and you know
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Speaker 2: that's funny.
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Speaker 6: But I couldn't agree more.
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Speaker 5: I think what people have to guard against with Travis
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Speaker 5: is judging him. I want to see twelve hundred yards receiving,
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Speaker 5: or I want to see xner of interceptions, the splash plays.
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Speaker 5: If he makes a seventeen game season, if he makes
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Speaker 5: four or five plays that tilt a game, and enough
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Speaker 5: where coordinators on both sides of the ball have to
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Speaker 5: worry about him on Tuesday when they're starting to put
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Speaker 5: the game plan together. To me that success, I don't
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Speaker 5: think it will be enough to satisfy a lot of
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Speaker 5: people out there.
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Speaker 6: You know, because we're in numbers. You know.
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Speaker 5: Oh you know, if he's not God in week one,
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Speaker 5: some people are gonna say, oh, he's terrible. I don't
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Speaker 5: care about that, but I think he absolutely can live
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Speaker 5: up to what we're talking about, which is, you know,
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Speaker 5: four or five plays at tilta game, it's one out
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Speaker 5: of three.
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Speaker 6: That's a lot.
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Speaker 5: And are are you concerning the other coordinators where they
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Speaker 5: have to start changing things. I think he can definitely
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Speaker 5: do that.
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Speaker 4: Buggy, he absolutely can do that.
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Speaker 3: And you're right because there's gonna be a lot of
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Speaker 3: expectations that come along with him entering the league as
18:40
Speaker 3: the number two overall pick doing something that hasn't been
18:43
Speaker 3: done and it's rather been done in the league, being
18:46
Speaker 3: a two way player. So there are a lot of
18:48
Speaker 3: people that are building it up to be maybe more
18:50
Speaker 3: than what it really needs to be.
18:52
Speaker 4: I think for the Jags, it's about him being a.
18:54
Speaker 3: Key contributor right away, and a key contributor isn't limited
18:58
Speaker 3: to the numbers, but he make enough plays where he
19:01
Speaker 3: impacts the game and tilts the game in the Jaguars direction.
19:05
Speaker 3: That's what we're looking for because he was brought in
19:07
Speaker 3: to really be a transformational player. Can he transformed this
19:13
Speaker 3: offense and defense into highly productive units with his presence
19:19
Speaker 3: and with his playmaking ability.
19:21
Speaker 2: Guys, let's come back. We will get into this quarterback
19:24
Speaker 2: matchup Bryce Young and Trevor Lawrence when we return. Also defenses,
19:30
Speaker 2: the defensive coverage of the game coming up will compare
19:34
Speaker 2: the defensive groups from a season ago. That's coming up next,
19:39
Speaker 2: of course, see Jaguar's Host of Panthers. This Sunday of
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Speaker 2: and this is huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 8: We're a tough, physical team. It's something we're gonna pride
19:59
Speaker 8: us alls on. I think being situationally really smart, that's
20:04
Speaker 8: such a big part of this game. In this league,
20:06
Speaker 8: games come down to one score all bit more often
20:09
Speaker 8: than they don't, so the situations are huge that'll win
20:11
Speaker 8: and lose you a lot of games. And then just
20:14
Speaker 8: detail oriented group that's really the small things matter so much.
20:19
Speaker 8: I think that's something that this staff has done an
20:21
Speaker 8: awesome job of preaching to us, and it's been coached
20:23
Speaker 8: really hard every day. How important the details are, the communication.
20:27
Speaker 8: It's something we've gotten a lot better at but like
20:30
Speaker 8: I said, you know you want to see it all
20:31
Speaker 8: come together on Sunday when the bullets are flying and
20:34
Speaker 8: see us do that for a full game.
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence earlier today his press conference at Jaguars dot
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Speaker 2: is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks JP Shadwick with John
20:54
Speaker 2: Ozier in Jacksonville, Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles, and yes,
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence one of the quarterbacks in this Sunday's game
21:02
Speaker 2: that went number one overall, Bryce Young of course, the
21:05
Speaker 2: other Trevor Lawrence in twenty twenty one, Bryce Young in
21:08
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. That you see on their screen their
21:10
Speaker 2: records as a starter, Bryce Young six and twenty two,
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence twenty two and thirty eight. He's battled some
21:18
Speaker 2: injury issues the last two years. And you see the
21:21
Speaker 2: rest of the numbers on your screen. It's the first
21:25
Speaker 2: time they faced each other in the National Football League.
21:28
Speaker 2: The teams faced each other back in twenty twenty three.
21:31
Speaker 2: Young played in the game, but Lawrence was inactive and
21:34
Speaker 2: the Jags won that game twenty six to nothing. It's
21:38
Speaker 2: been a little bit but looking forward to seeing these
21:40
Speaker 2: two and a good way to get things going, Johnny.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that obviously means nothing for this week,
21:46
Speaker 5: because you know, Carolina was limping to the beat yes
21:51
Speaker 5: finish of an awful season, and the Jaguars really were two. Yeah,
21:56
Speaker 5: it's a matchup, as he said of former number one picks,
21:59
Speaker 5: that all brings a light energy to it. I'm not
22:03
Speaker 5: really as concerned about that as I am sort of
22:06
Speaker 5: seeing how Trevor Lawrence performs.
22:08
Speaker 6: But I do think.
22:08
Speaker 5: It's it's the first game of a huge time for Trevor.
22:14
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm analyzed out of it. You know,
22:17
Speaker 5: we've talked about it so much, Bucky. I'm not sure
22:19
Speaker 5: what more there is to say about Trevor until we
22:21
Speaker 5: actually see what he looks like in this scheme. I'm optimistic,
22:26
Speaker 5: but it's another one of those things that you don't
22:28
Speaker 5: know until you see it. At four o'clock on Sunday,
22:32
Speaker 5: all the talk could be out the window, Yeah, or
22:35
Speaker 5: we could feel great.
22:35
Speaker 2: About it, or we're talking more about it.
22:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a big It's always big week one, but
22:41
Speaker 5: it feels really big for Trevor.
22:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels big for Trevor, and it feels big
22:46
Speaker 3: for everyone around the program.
22:48
Speaker 4: And I'll say this is big because it's a new start,
22:50
Speaker 4: the limp cooin era and those things.
22:52
Speaker 3: What I like, like everything that I'm hearing from the
22:55
Speaker 3: Jaguars to me is what we call like real world perspective,
22:59
Speaker 3: Like they seem to have a really good feel for
23:01
Speaker 3: what this is. And as they talk about being a tough,
23:04
Speaker 3: physical team, a team that plays with an edge, competitiveness
23:07
Speaker 3: in those things, but they also talk about those things
23:09
Speaker 3: have to be on display. I think as we always
23:13
Speaker 3: talk about the team taking on the personality of the coach,
23:18
Speaker 3: Liam Coin's constant discussing of toughness and competitiveness and edginess
23:24
Speaker 3: that certainly is coming across now.
23:25
Speaker 4: The next thing is to see it play out in games.
23:29
Speaker 3: Can this team be what they say they want to
23:32
Speaker 3: be And if it doesn't start the way they want
23:35
Speaker 3: it to start, do they have the ability to flip
23:37
Speaker 3: the switch to get back to playing their brand the
23:40
Speaker 3: ball or the brand that they want to play. To me,
23:43
Speaker 3: that's what it is and so I would encourage fans.
23:46
Speaker 3: No one would do this. But don't worry about the scoreboard.
23:51
Speaker 3: Let your eyes. I'm just gonna tell you this because
23:54
Speaker 3: it's the beginning, Like we don't know what it looks like.
23:56
Speaker 3: Don't worry about the schoolboard, but look at how the
23:58
Speaker 3: team plays. Does the team play to the words that
24:03
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen has been talking about. Do you see a
24:05
Speaker 3: tough team? Do you see just playing hard? Do you
24:08
Speaker 3: see a team that's running to the ball and playing
24:10
Speaker 3: with reckless abandon Because if you see that, regardless of
24:14
Speaker 3: whether the team wins, the team can build upon this performance.
24:18
Speaker 3: That's where my eyes are. Can we play to the
24:21
Speaker 3: brand that he's been selling regardless of the win, the
24:25
Speaker 3: wins or losses. If we play that way, at some
24:28
Speaker 3: point during the season, it's gonna flip and the wins
24:31
Speaker 3: will come as a result of doing the things that
24:32
Speaker 3: he's been preaching since the offseason.
24:35
Speaker 2: Bucky, let's touch on the gentleman on the other side
24:38
Speaker 2: of that graphic. We just saw Bryce Young now in
24:41
Speaker 2: year three in the NFL, and they keep adding big, tall,
24:46
Speaker 2: long receivers on the outside for him. Ted McMillan's there now,
24:50
Speaker 2: say if you're log at he's got a slot guy
24:52
Speaker 2: that can get it done on Hunter Renfro. You know
24:57
Speaker 2: what's the ceiling for Bryce Young and the Panthers this season?
25:01
Speaker 3: Look, man, I think the Panthers feel about us like
25:04
Speaker 3: we feel about them. The Panthers are very much looking
25:07
Speaker 3: forward to playing the Jaguars because in their mind, they
25:09
Speaker 3: feel like they're a better team and they're ready to win.
25:11
Speaker 3: For Bryce Young, they tried to surround him with big
25:14
Speaker 3: body playmakers. They tried to build a basketball team on
25:16
Speaker 3: the perimeter to expand the strikes on and make it
25:19
Speaker 3: easy for him to register completions. Bryce Young displayed a
25:22
Speaker 3: lot of toughness, a lot of grit, a lot of
25:24
Speaker 3: poise bounce it back from a mid season benching to
25:27
Speaker 3: playing well down the stretch. They believe, Dave Canalison company
25:31
Speaker 3: believe that they can build upon that performance and they're
25:34
Speaker 3: looking to go to the next level with this team.
25:37
Speaker 3: The next level goes from being a team that is
25:40
Speaker 3: bad to being competitive and around five hundred that would
25:43
Speaker 3: be a realistic next step for them, but it starts
25:46
Speaker 3: with this team playing against the Jaguars.
25:48
Speaker 4: So they what they want to do is attack the Jaguars, get.
25:51
Speaker 3: The ball out of his hands, allow those big bodies
25:53
Speaker 3: to work on the perimeter and find a way to
25:55
Speaker 3: score points while also running the football with some explosive athletes.
25:59
Speaker 4: But it's gonna be a compliment.
26:01
Speaker 3: I don't expect him to throw at thirty five to
26:03
Speaker 3: forty times, but I do expect him to operate at
26:06
Speaker 3: a high efficiency rate and see if they can scheme
26:10
Speaker 3: up some winners to be able to put the ball
26:12
Speaker 3: into pay Yeah.
26:13
Speaker 6: Stop the running pressure that guy with the Jags.
26:15
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the easier said it done. Cheoe Hubbard
26:17
Speaker 2: was eight league and rushing last yah.
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Speaker 6: I mean that's but so that'll be the test.
26:21
Speaker 5: That's what I'm watching early is this team believes it's
26:24
Speaker 5: going to be physical, meaning the Jaguars.
26:26
Speaker 6: They believe they're gonna be physical. Campan Nearly talks.
26:28
Speaker 5: About getting off blocks. I mean, you know, playing with
26:31
Speaker 5: power at the point of attack. I asked Trayvon Walker today,
26:35
Speaker 5: you know about playing physically?
26:37
Speaker 6: Is that the thing you want to established? And he
26:39
Speaker 6: said what I expect him to say, Stop the run,
26:41
Speaker 6: get after the quarterback. They believe they should be a
26:44
Speaker 6: good run stopping team.
26:49
Speaker 2: Time to see, we'll find out time now for the
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Speaker 2: defensive coverage of the game percented by g e h
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Speaker 2: A Government Employees Health Association benefits for federal employees and retirees. Well,
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Speaker 2: do not look directly into the screen if you don't
27:03
Speaker 2: like defensive stats. These things are nasty. Last year, the
27:07
Speaker 2: Panthers and the Jaguars were thirty second and thirty first,
27:11
Speaker 2: respectively in the total defense and you know, they were
27:17
Speaker 2: near the bottom of most every category. Actually got to
27:20
Speaker 2: flip those graphics on the screen. The draft, the Jags
27:24
Speaker 2: were thirty first. The Panthers were dead last in the league.
27:27
Speaker 2: The Jags had nine takeaways. The Panthers had seventeen.
27:30
Speaker 6: But you almost don't need to flip it.
27:32
Speaker 2: They're pretty dark.
27:33
Speaker 6: Close and that sore. It speaks to your point.
27:36
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think the one thing that stands out
27:40
Speaker 5: to me. If you stop the run better, then you're
27:45
Speaker 5: in more passing situations and you get more takeaways overall.
27:52
Speaker 5: I think, Bucky the thing that it feels like from
27:54
Speaker 5: talking to people on this team, they believe that very
27:56
Speaker 5: quickly they had nine takeaways, they really had eight.
28:00
Speaker 6: One of them was a there was a special team's turnover.
28:05
Speaker 5: If you get that up to if you increase that
28:08
Speaker 5: by ten, you know which still has you just okay,
28:14
Speaker 5: how much better are you and playing zone, playing with
28:16
Speaker 5: your eyes on the ball, stopping the run better. I
28:20
Speaker 5: think they're almost better there. I hate to say it,
28:22
Speaker 5: but you're almost better there without trying.
28:27
Speaker 6: Try though, it's okay to try try.
28:30
Speaker 3: No old school people, and because John to spend enough
28:33
Speaker 3: time with Tony Dungee. Tony Dungee has always been a
28:35
Speaker 3: proponent of zone coverage and the reason why is you
28:37
Speaker 3: have more eyes on the quarterback and the ball than
28:40
Speaker 3: if everyone is running through the ball hustling to the
28:43
Speaker 3: ball like good things gonna happen because you can get
28:46
Speaker 3: multiple guys at the point of contact, they're gonna hit
28:48
Speaker 3: the ball.
28:48
Speaker 4: There's a chance that you can knock it loose.
28:51
Speaker 3: The other thing that happens when you play zone and
28:53
Speaker 3: all eyes are there, you have an opportunity.
28:55
Speaker 4: To make turnovers off tips and overthrows.
28:57
Speaker 3: And we have seen even in the short time teams
29:00
Speaker 3: plays on the teams that are real discipline end zone,
29:03
Speaker 3: they have an opportunity.
29:04
Speaker 4: And they do make a lot of turnovers.
29:06
Speaker 3: But it comes down to stopping to run on early
29:09
Speaker 3: downs so you can heat them up on those passing downs,
29:12
Speaker 3: whether it's a four man rush of whether you bring
29:14
Speaker 3: in zone blitz concepts and those things.
29:17
Speaker 4: You have to win early downs to be able to
29:19
Speaker 4: dictate the terms on later downs.
29:21
Speaker 3: So as John has talked about it, all odds are
29:24
Speaker 3: on the front line, and particularly the defensive tackles. You
29:28
Speaker 3: have to stop the run early so you can dictate
29:31
Speaker 3: the terms. And so if the Jaguars have any problem
29:33
Speaker 3: stopping to run, it's gonna make it very, very hard
29:35
Speaker 3: for them to create turnovers because they're not going to
29:37
Speaker 3: be able to tilt the field in their direction.
29:40
Speaker 4: So the running game, run defense is everything.
29:43
Speaker 3: Stopping the run really sets the table for the rest
29:45
Speaker 3: of the stuff that they talk about defensively, and.
29:47
Speaker 5: I think it's fair to look at that as an
29:49
Speaker 5: area to watch Sunday, because look, they went out and
29:52
Speaker 5: got two defensive tackles during the offseason, so it's fair
29:57
Speaker 5: to say that at some point they saw something that
29:59
Speaker 5: needs need to be solidified. And Eric Armstead's moving inside.
30:05
Speaker 5: I think he'll be a big deal toward improving that area,
30:09
Speaker 5: but we haven't seen it yet, so that will be
30:13
Speaker 5: a major area to watch. I was asked by somebody.
30:17
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I use it yet in the ozone.
30:20
Speaker 5: What area do you want to see play well that
30:22
Speaker 5: makes you feel better about the rest of the regular season. Well,
30:25
Speaker 5: everything is the answer, because you don't know anything right
30:27
Speaker 5: now about this team. But if they come out Sunday
30:31
Speaker 5: and give up a buck thirty in the run game
30:35
Speaker 5: and you feel like they can't do anything about it,
30:37
Speaker 5: that's a big concern. I don't think that's what it'll be.
30:40
Speaker 2: But if you're.
30:40
Speaker 5: Looking for Pillars to build on off a week one,
30:44
Speaker 5: you want to make sure you can do that, and
30:45
Speaker 5: I think that's something they'll be watching as well.
30:48
Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's come back our final thoughts. We'll
30:51
Speaker 2: see how we feel about the Sunday's game. The Panthers
30:55
Speaker 2: and the Jaguars kickoff weekend at the Bank coming up
31:00
Speaker 2: this week. It's one o'clock kickoff time, and this is
31:02
Speaker 2: huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 7: We've got to be able to make it harder on
31:15
Speaker 7: them with changing the picture because they are younger, and
31:18
Speaker 7: try to give them different looks potentially, and so not
31:21
Speaker 7: everything they're seeing is exactly what they are expecting them
31:24
Speaker 7: to get at times. And also you know, doing a
31:27
Speaker 7: good job within our zones is getting hands on reroutes
31:29
Speaker 7: things like that.
31:30
Speaker 4: I mean, when they're.
31:31
Speaker 7: Bigger dudes, you know, you worry about at the catchpoint
31:35
Speaker 7: at times like because of the size in the in
31:37
Speaker 7: the frame. So we've got to do a great job
31:39
Speaker 7: playing through their hands when we are at the point
31:42
Speaker 7: of attack, playing through our hands, playing with great technique,
31:45
Speaker 7: but those guys play to take that a little bit personal.
31:48
Speaker 4: In the GV.
31:48
Speaker 2: Room, Liam Cohen, Jack's head coach, describing how to defend
31:54
Speaker 2: some of these playmakers on the outside for Carolina. There
31:59
Speaker 2: they are some of the starting offensive skilled players Hubbard.
32:02
Speaker 2: We talked about eighth in the league in rushing last year,
32:08
Speaker 2: Ted mcmill and the rookie coming in on the outside
32:11
Speaker 2: at six foot four, Hunter Renfro. I always thought Hunter
32:14
Speaker 2: Renfro was a scout when I saw him at the
32:16
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl the first time.
32:17
Speaker 5: Speaking of you guys who aren't a scout, BESSELLI was
32:20
Speaker 5: just sticking his head near and said, it's basically down
32:23
Speaker 5: playing this show like his show is all that great.
32:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's not doing one anymore. He's scared radio now.
32:28
Speaker 5: Apparently he's so missing the spotlight.
32:32
Speaker 2: It really is something. Well anyway, those are the playmakers
32:37
Speaker 2: for the for the Carolina Panthers and the Panthers Jaguars
32:41
Speaker 2: game Sunday at one o'clock and the game presented by publics.
32:45
Speaker 2: We're shopping is a pleasure. What are you feeling on
32:49
Speaker 2: this one, Bucky? Are you in? Is it positive or
32:53
Speaker 2: you just don't know? Or what's the what's the outcome
32:55
Speaker 2: going to be?
32:57
Speaker 3: Look, I'm positive, but I'm also intrigued to see what
33:00
Speaker 3: it looks like. I'm positive to Jaguars and find a
33:02
Speaker 3: way to win, but I'm intrigued. I mean, Liam Coyn
33:05
Speaker 3: has said a bunch of great things, and all the
33:07
Speaker 3: things that they've talked about offensive and defensively, I'm on
33:11
Speaker 3: board with. But it's one thing to talk about it,
33:13
Speaker 3: it's another thing to be about it. So I want
33:15
Speaker 3: to see if this team is about what we've been
33:18
Speaker 3: talking about the entire offseasons.
33:20
Speaker 6: One thing to talk about it week one. That's week one,
33:25
Speaker 6: about one a week and this is already you're already.
33:28
Speaker 2: In the season four week one.
33:30
Speaker 5: Look, I'm gonna talk about both sides of my mouth
33:33
Speaker 5: a little bit because I again and that lastly, I'm
33:36
Speaker 5: coming sound bye. I love the fact that he said, Hey,
33:39
Speaker 5: it's going to be a point of pride in that room.
33:41
Speaker 2: You know.
33:41
Speaker 5: He I think he's always when he's talking to us,
33:46
Speaker 5: he's always going back to that theme of hey, guys,
33:49
Speaker 5: at some point, you got to win, you got to
33:52
Speaker 5: win your matchup. And I'm convinced be saying it to us.
33:56
Speaker 5: You know, that's what he's emphasized. And I think it's
33:58
Speaker 5: important for players to sort of always be conscious that
34:02
Speaker 5: how do you get that to the forefront. At the
34:04
Speaker 5: same time, I think the most interesting thing, and I
34:06
Speaker 5: like to hear Bucky's thoughts on this is as the coach,
34:11
Speaker 5: coach Buck, Yeah, we thing we just haven't seen because
34:15
Speaker 5: you don't show it yet. You don't see it in practice,
34:17
Speaker 5: you don't see it in OTAs. They clearly spent this
34:22
Speaker 5: off season making sure that Liam Cohen had as many
34:28
Speaker 5: weapons as he wanted to run this offense. You added too,
34:32
Speaker 5: and you added Travis Hunter, you had a Diame Brown,
34:35
Speaker 5: all those guys I think can score from anywhere on
34:37
Speaker 5: the field. We haven't seen him scheme this thing up yet.
34:40
Speaker 5: You know, this is the first chance we're going to
34:42
Speaker 5: have to see how is he going to use this?
34:46
Speaker 5: Can you get guys open? What sort of impact that has?
34:51
Speaker 5: Out of all the storylines we've talked about, Trevor offensive
34:54
Speaker 5: line whatever, that's the one that I think is going
34:57
Speaker 5: to be really interesting to watch on Sunday.
34:59
Speaker 4: Yes, really interesting to watch on Sunday.
35:01
Speaker 3: But I will say, give it a full month before
35:04
Speaker 3: we get a feel for how he schemes it up.
35:10
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to give you reality, like, because for
35:16
Speaker 9: all the things that we think that he knows about
35:19
Speaker 9: his team, he really won't know him until they start
35:21
Speaker 9: playing live.
35:22
Speaker 4: Action for four quarters.
35:23
Speaker 3: And so I would anticipate him taking the best things
35:27
Speaker 3: that Trevor has done throughout the offseason. That'd be the
35:30
Speaker 3: base of what the game plan is, and then he'll
35:33
Speaker 3: have some individual things for Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas
35:36
Speaker 3: Junior and Parkerwashington all those other guys. But then as
35:40
Speaker 3: we get into the game, and as we get beyond this.
35:43
Speaker 4: Weekend into next week, he'll.
35:45
Speaker 3: Begin to get a good feel for how the pieces
35:48
Speaker 3: of the puzzle fit together, and then we will see
35:51
Speaker 3: this offense go.
35:52
Speaker 4: But as I said to me, this.
35:54
Speaker 3: Offense is going to look like the twenty eighteen version
35:58
Speaker 3: of the LA Rams where they interchangeable parts.
36:01
Speaker 4: It was a lot of jet sweep fly sweep motion.
36:04
Speaker 3: Condensed type formations where you have the running game and
36:09
Speaker 3: the passing game Marion, where the first initial steps look alike,
36:13
Speaker 3: and then you go see deep overs and post routes
36:15
Speaker 3: and crossing routes and the play action passes would generate
36:19
Speaker 3: the big plays.
36:20
Speaker 4: To me, that's what my expectation is.
36:23
Speaker 3: Look for this to be one where because just think
36:26
Speaker 3: about the amount of diagonals that we've seen this team
36:29
Speaker 3: catch over the course of the off season, where one
36:31
Speaker 3: receiver starts on one side, goes all the way across
36:34
Speaker 3: the field, climbing, and he catches the ball at twenty yards.
36:37
Speaker 4: I would be disappointed if we don't see a big.
36:39
Speaker 3: Play off of those concepts, considering the time on tasks
36:44
Speaker 3: that this.
36:45
Speaker 4: Team has put investing in those concepts.
36:48
Speaker 6: In Chabukie's point being closed after the you know.
36:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's really where Liam Cohen made his reputation last
36:55
Speaker 5: year was how he evolved and grew that offense throughout
37:03
Speaker 5: the course of the season. They were not a great
37:04
Speaker 5: running team early, and he figured out a way to
37:07
Speaker 5: make that work as time went on. So I agree
37:09
Speaker 5: with Bucky, don't let everything judge on the first quarter Sunday.
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Speaker 6: But uh, that's not what's gonna happen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't uh exactly.
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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know it's gonna fallow on
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Speaker 3: dead fears and I know, like uh, me asking for
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Speaker 3: patients and all of that stuff like is just into
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Speaker 3: the abyss, Like no one is going to hear that.
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Speaker 4: But like we have to kind of treat this as
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Speaker 4: what it is. The first four games.
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Speaker 3: Of the season are to kind of figure out who
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Speaker 3: we have and what we are. The next four about
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Speaker 3: building upon that. Then the last half of the season
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Speaker 3: is leaning into who this team really is.
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Speaker 2: All Right, enough talking about it. You gotta be about it.
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Speaker 2: You gotta be about it. This Sunday, the Jaguars and
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Speaker 2: the Panthers coming up at one o'clock and Bucky have
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Speaker 2: safe travels. We'll see this weekend.
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Speaker 4: Looking forward to it, man, Bucky
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Speaker 2: Brooks out of here, John Ozier, JP Shatterick takes for
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Speaker 2: entire crew, Brent Reebert, Joe, Fortunate tho and thanks to
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Speaker 2: you for watching Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.