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AI ‘Instant Answers’ Ruining Patience | Most of America’s Wealth · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: It is a Monday morning, June eighth. Some of the
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  Speaker 1: Now. I want to spend a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about AI, but in a way that it's not
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  Speaker 2: being covered and the word patience is being talked about
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  Speaker 2: with AI.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know much about patients.
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  Speaker 2: Michelle gave me this topic and I don't know why,
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  Speaker 2: but she did because patience is my life.
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  Speaker 1: If you ever listen to handle on the law. When
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  Speaker 1: I do phone.
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  Speaker 2: Calls after the show off the air, what I do
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  Speaker 2: say is I'm about to take phone calls off the air.
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  Speaker 2: There'll be no commercials, there'll be no traffic, there'll be
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  Speaker 2: no weather, and certainly no patients because I simply don't
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  Speaker 2: have any. So here's AI. Back in the day before AI,
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  Speaker 2: teachers would assign research papers. This is cool, requiring you
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  Speaker 2: me to go to the library searching for relevant material,
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  Speaker 2: even on the Internet, coming through piles of material, weaving
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  Speaker 2: through coherent arguments, or creating one supported by evidence. Now
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  Speaker 2: AI does everything school with signments, legal writing, sermon preparation,
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  Speaker 2: that's a big one, vacation planning, work, emails, academic research.
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  Speaker 2: And AI is certainly eroding critical thinking skills. But also
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  Speaker 2: AI is talking about patients. That is disappearing patience and patients.
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  Speaker 2: Actually in these are studies, Okay, this is science telling
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  Speaker 2: us this because I love, I love referring to studies
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  Speaker 2: patients have has been linked to good outcomes, including healthier lifestyles,
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  Speaker 2: greater emotion, regulation, more fulfilling relationship, each increase caring about
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  Speaker 2: equity and justice, increased cooperation, greater purpose in life, lower depression,
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  Speaker 2: higher life satisfaction. If you put in front of that,
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  Speaker 2: not handle, you will describe me in detail. I don't
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  Speaker 2: have patients, but I always never have. But if you
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  Speaker 2: are lacking in patients, which most people are, you want
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  Speaker 2: to stay away from AI or use it minimally. AI tools.
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  Speaker 2: What it does is foster a culture of immediacy. Immediacy
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  Speaker 2: diminishing the capacity for patients. I mean instant gratification because
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  Speaker 2: AI delivers fully developed answers.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the answer.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I get copy all the time from the
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  Speaker 2: salespeople that are running through AI, which I have to
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  Speaker 2: redo completely because it's AI reduces the delays that people
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  Speaker 2: used to experience as you search assetsed integrated and integragated
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  Speaker 2: and integrated information. Now, research is still in its infancy,
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  Speaker 2: but expectations are changing, and patience is well. Patience is
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  Speaker 2: a virtue, and we are losing patients. What we are
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  Speaker 2: gaining in immediacy, in instant graphification, that is the opposite
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  Speaker 2: of patients.
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  Speaker 1: And as the.
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  Speaker 2: Studies are showing more and more patience and simply living better, longer,
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  Speaker 2: being happier, being more healthy, that has a lot to
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  Speaker 2: do with patients and then their story about sermon preparation.
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  Speaker 2: Pastors usually take hours a week to examine original language
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  Speaker 2: of their texts, consult commentaries, develop illustrations and examples, talk
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  Speaker 2: about practical applications.
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  Speaker 1: All that has gone.
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  Speaker 2: Now the entire process is done in a matter of
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  Speaker 2: seconds using AI, and people are saying that is not
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  Speaker 2: a pastor's real job or what a pastor should do
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  Speaker 2: should be well thought out, it should relate. AI turns
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  Speaker 2: it on its head. So here are ways to cultivate patients. Again,
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  Speaker 2: this is what the study show and what can be done.
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  Speaker 2: Deliberately choose a slower path. Okay, don't rely on AI
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  Speaker 2: summaris or shortcuts, but try to come up with the
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  Speaker 2: answers on your own. That is not easy to do
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  Speaker 2: because we go to instant gratification. And can you imagine
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  Speaker 2: you've been given a research assignment and now you're going
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  Speaker 2: to spend hours combing through texts and other research and
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  Speaker 2: really trying to figure out what's important what's not.
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  Speaker 1: Boom.
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  Speaker 2: AI comes up with it in thirty seconds or ten
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  Speaker 2: seconds or five seconds, and you are finished. It's really
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  Speaker 2: screwing up schoolwork because critical thinking is disappearing completely, and
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  Speaker 2: is it going to be the future like Wally where
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  Speaker 2: everybody flies around, you're really fat, Everybody flies around in
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  Speaker 2: those flying saucers and no one even walks. Is that
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  Speaker 2: going to be what's happening intellectually to us where we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to have any choice because we're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: be able to make a choice, because it's all going
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  Speaker 2: to be done for us. Design your environment, remove AI tools,
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  Speaker 2: carve out dedicated time free of distractions, and notify and
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  Speaker 2: just notifications.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's what I would do. I have no problem
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  Speaker 1: doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I with no problem creating distractions, but I would go
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  Speaker 2: to AI to help me create distractions. What kind of
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  Speaker 2: distractions can I have when I get an entire list?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good for me?
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  Speaker 2: And encourage and reward intellectual in uh well, engagement. And
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know how you do that other than
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  Speaker 2: saying don't use AI.
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  Speaker 1: And it's impossible.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, come to the point now
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  Speaker 2: where some test that's done is done. We're talking about
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  Speaker 2: school in the classroom, no computers, no cell phones. Here
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  Speaker 2: you go, let's see how well you think. And I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait for the studies to come out. And right
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  Speaker 2: now they're anecdotal comparing the two AI users. We're talking
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  Speaker 2: about critical thinking, just that topic right now, AI users
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  Speaker 2: and those that are on their own all right, A
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  Speaker 2: story about baby baby boomers. And I love these stories
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  Speaker 2: because I am a boomer and we have we boomers
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  Speaker 2: have more money as a generation than any matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: than any in history.
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  Speaker 1: We certainly have more money than exers.
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  Speaker 2: Or millennials or any group out there, which I've never
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  Speaker 2: understood how the dates work between nineteen and twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: I've never understood that. In any case, some economic data
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  Speaker 2: has just been lease in recent weeks. And here is
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  Speaker 2: the problem. We know this, but again this is surveys
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  Speaker 2: and data, and what's happening is they're trying to understand,
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  Speaker 2: which is some of it is easy to understand, just
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  Speaker 2: confirming what we know, housing affordability, household formation, economic motibility
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  Speaker 2: has just turned around completely. And there is an article
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  Speaker 2: that was written in Fortune magazine and the author is
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  Speaker 2: looking at the emails. No balance in the world we
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  Speaker 2: live in. Another said, a golf ball is a golf ball,
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  Speaker 2: no matter how you put it.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny.
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  Speaker 2: So is the economic or so is the economy so
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  Speaker 2: adapt and what is the going on?
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  Speaker 1: What is happening. Well.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of boomers, keep in mind, more money than
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  Speaker 2: any other generation. A lot of boomers are poor, scared,
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  Speaker 2: and anxious about the life they have left. They were
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  Speaker 2: led to believe, yes, we were, that if we worked hard,
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  Speaker 2: we climb the corporate ladder, we'd be able to financially
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  Speaker 2: secure and retire at sixty five and enjoy our golden years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of misfortune along the way because there was
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  Speaker 2: a layoff at fifty five or sixty years old, massive layoffs.
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  Speaker 2: The last few years, health issues have exploded, and have
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  Speaker 2: the cost has just exploded too, and so we live longer. However,
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  Speaker 2: are we living better? That's the problem. So it's not
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  Speaker 2: unusual today to live into the nineties. I look at
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  Speaker 2: the obits. I love o bits in the paper. I
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  Speaker 2: just read the La Times, New York Times o bits
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  Speaker 2: religiously because they are little biographies of people, and it's always,
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  Speaker 2: for some reason, it's always winners there, scientists and corporate people.
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  Speaker 2: They're never Joe Smith was a plumber that no one
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  Speaker 2: buys that oh bit. But the point is they all
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  Speaker 2: live into their nineties, or a lot of them. Then
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  Speaker 2: there are some in the fifties and sixties and seventies,
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  Speaker 2: and they die after a courageous battle with cancer. No
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  Speaker 2: one dies after a miserable battle, screaming I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to die.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to die. That just doesn't happen in obits.
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  Speaker 2: But the point is is that we have been screwed.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine for those of you who are boomers
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  Speaker 2: and why, because our anticipation has changed completely. We really
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  Speaker 2: did think we were going to retire with enough money.
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  Speaker 2: The reality is we are never going to retire with
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  Speaker 2: enough money. I mean, keep in mind, most people have
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  Speaker 2: under two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in savings across
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  Speaker 2: the board, including equity and homes. Well, two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. You know what that gives you at
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  Speaker 2: five percent, twelve thousand, five hundred dollars, and your Social
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  Speaker 2: Security let's say, is two thousand dollars. There's another two
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So twenty five you're still talking under forty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year. You're now living on that, and
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  Speaker 2: most people make a lot more than forty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: So the bottom line is the way you live, right,
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  Speaker 2: the level of just existence changes dramatically, and that's most
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  Speaker 2: of us and why pensions have disappeared for the most
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  Speaker 2: part in terms of living longer. Here's one personal story.
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  Speaker 2: I happen to have a very good pension because I'm
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  Speaker 2: with AFTRA and I have been for a long time,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm grandfathered in, and so I get a hell. Well,
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  Speaker 2: when I retire, I'm going to get a healthy pension.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is, if I live twenty years longer, the
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  Speaker 2: pension is going to be worth twenty five or thirty
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  Speaker 2: percent of what it's worth now. Unless I get a
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  Speaker 2: cola increase, cost of living increase, which very few pensions have.
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  Speaker 2: Social Security, We're not gonna get any more money. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get less money on Social Security. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: are looking at a quality of life that is not terrific.
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  Speaker 2: How many people do you go out there? There's a
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  Speaker 2: in and out Burger up the street from me that
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  Speaker 2: I tend to go to a whole lot, strangely enough,
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  Speaker 2: and there are it's a substantial number of people who
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  Speaker 2: work there that are past sixty five. Now, how many
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  Speaker 2: of those say it's because I want to keep busy?
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  Speaker 2: I should ask? My guess is there are a big percentage.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is anecdotal, but the studies are going to
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  Speaker 2: prove out this is the case that probably the majority
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  Speaker 2: because they have to work because their standard of living collapses.
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  Speaker 2: Even people that own homes, they can't sell those homes
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  Speaker 2: because they're sitting on three more percent mortgage. And even
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  Speaker 2: if selling the house buying someplace else, the taxes, the maintenance,
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  Speaker 2: the insurance just goes crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So what do we do well? You know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I started planning in my thirties for retirement. I should
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  Speaker 2: have started planning in my twenties. It is a very
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  Speaker 2: difficult way that we're going to retire, and boomers are
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  Speaker 2: probably the best off. So is this an answer to
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  Speaker 2: all this? And keep in mind social Security? You retire
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  Speaker 2: to sixty five. The plan was for you to retire
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  Speaker 2: at sixty six, or the plan was to retire sixty
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  Speaker 2: five and die at sixty six. We're now living through
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  Speaker 2: our nineties. My mother died at ninety eight. She ran
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  Speaker 2: out of money completely in her eighties. If I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: there feeling Jewish guilt about supporting her, I got a
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  Speaker 2: gold medal in the Jewish Olympics and I supported her.
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  Speaker 2: She would be living in a dumpster. For she would
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  Speaker 2: have been living in a dumpster for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: her life after hitting eighty five, which would have been
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  Speaker 2: fine for me because she wouldn't know the difference. Hey mom,
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  Speaker 2: you're enjoying yourself. Hey, you live in a great place.
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  Speaker 2: How the hell would she know the difference. Is there
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  Speaker 2: an answer to this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think there is. I think there is an answer.
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  Speaker 1: You retire, then just kill yourself.
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  Speaker 2: What's it? Knock yourself off, you'll be happier. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: much for advice that I give you. All Right, moving on,
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  Speaker 2: what's happening with R. F. K. Junior, who I have
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  Speaker 2: said is completely crazy. You know, there are some good
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  Speaker 2: parts to what he has asked his maha make American
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  Speaker 2: healthy again. His full pilosophy actually, in many ways is
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  Speaker 2: good for us. The problem is is that the White
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  Speaker 2: House and administration officials are slowing progress on some of
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  Speaker 2: his hallmark initiatives. And they're good initiatives, efforts on ingredient oversight,
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  Speaker 2: ultra processed food, and he's right, it is dangerous for us.
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  Speaker 1: It is not healthy. And here's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Why his initiatives are falling flat or they're slowing down
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  Speaker 2: because his concerns and his policy could further drive up
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  Speaker 2: food prices, and that's something the administration is fighting like crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Food industry groups representing companies like PepsiCo and Calloggs and
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  Speaker 2: other major ones have been delivering a similar message to lawmakers, saying, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 2: food prices are simply going to climb, and they're going
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  Speaker 2: to climb really fast, really hard. And that's gained traction
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  Speaker 2: with White House staffers. Why, because the White House is
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  Speaker 2: hyper focused on affordability. That is where the Republican Party
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  Speaker 2: and those candidates that are on the Republican ticket coming
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  Speaker 2: up and are in the general election on the ticket
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  Speaker 2: coming up, are going to be hit pretty hard affordability,
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  Speaker 2: including food prices. President Trump became president this time around
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  Speaker 2: arguing that affordability was everything. We were just going broke,
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  Speaker 2: and he won the election and that was one of
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  Speaker 2: the big reasons. Well, guess what, we are paying some
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  Speaker 2: big prices for food. The increase has been more than healthy.
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  Speaker 2: In April, grocery prices were twenty six percent higher than
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  Speaker 2: they were five years ago, and that is far higher
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  Speaker 2: than the wage increase. And so the Trump administration has
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  Speaker 2: made some big moves on food. One of them is
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  Speaker 2: securing voluntarily military commitments from companies, for example, to remove
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  Speaker 2: artificial dies, completing a system for reviewing the safety of chemicals.
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  Speaker 1: And the problem is.
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  Speaker 2: The officials and those involved in doing all that is
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  Speaker 2: that these efforts are difficult, They are time consuming, They
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  Speaker 2: require a lot of conversation between agencies, companies, the public.
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  Speaker 2: And the rise to prominence that is Kennedy's rise to
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  Speaker 2: prominence and the birth of MAHA Make American Healthy Again
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  Speaker 2: caught the food industry off guard. He said he's going
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  Speaker 2: to strip chemicals, some chemicals from the food supply chain,
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  Speaker 2: wage war on chronic diseases, urging individual states to pass
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  Speaker 2: laws tightening food regulation, all good stuff. No one is
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  Speaker 2: going to argue that he's in the wrong on this one.
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  Speaker 2: He is absolutely in the right. And even those detractors
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  Speaker 2: are saying, how do you argue with the science out
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  Speaker 2: there that says ultra processed food, which I live with constantly.
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  Speaker 2: My ham and cheese sandwich. Yesterday I actually had a
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  Speaker 2: turkey and cheese sandwich, which is very unusual. I live
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  Speaker 2: on ham and cheese and the locks and bagels in
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  Speaker 2: the morning. I wonder if if smoked salmon ultra processed.
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  Speaker 2: Is it considered ultra process No, it's not, Michelle, Is
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  Speaker 2: that considered reasonably healthy? The smoked salmon, yes, okay, it's
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  Speaker 2: just smoked.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like run through a bunch of stuff with
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff in it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean the color of smoked salmon. Is that's artificial?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe? But yeah, no, I don't think it's considered.
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  Speaker 2: Ultra all right, fair enough. So officials, including Kennedy, have
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  Speaker 2: been very supportive. There's a petition requesting the FDA crackdown
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  Speaker 2: on refined carbohydrates, research showing elevated health risks.
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  Speaker 1: And so the fight.
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  Speaker 2: That RFK Junior is engaged in, by the way, crazy,
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  Speaker 2: is his vaccine stuff okay, completely nuts? However, arguing the
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  Speaker 2: safety of food and ultra processed food and chemicals, now what,
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  Speaker 2: No one can argue that that's not a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is, practically speaking, what are you going to do?
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  Speaker 2: That fight is going to take years, and he wants
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  Speaker 2: it right now, and it translates into higher food prices.
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  Speaker 2: And can the administration or Republicans deal with this and
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  Speaker 2: deal with higher food prices? No one wants to hear
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  Speaker 2: why even if it makes sense, the voters don't want
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  Speaker 2: to hear why and a long explanation of how ultra
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  Speaker 2: processed food hurts you and you're going to die sooner
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  Speaker 2: and it's going to cause medical issues with you.
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  Speaker 1: All you're going to see is the price.
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  Speaker 2: And as it goes up, well, what does that translate into?
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  Speaker 1: Politically?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, now something going on, and I guess this makes
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  Speaker 2: a point more than anything else. There is something called
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  Speaker 2: repair cafes that started in the Netherlands with just one.
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  Speaker 1: What's the repair cafe.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a long table where a bunch of technical
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  Speaker 2: folks repair items household items that people bring in. And
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  Speaker 2: there are relatively few, I mean, you know, compared to
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  Speaker 2: what is being bought out there.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a philosophy.
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  Speaker 2: It's saying that consumerism, we should repair, we should recycle,
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  Speaker 2: we should not go into the disposable world, which we have.
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  Speaker 2: For example, Neil is undergoing bariatric surgery, as I went
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  Speaker 2: under bariatric surgery twenty five years ago, and so they
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  Speaker 2: take out the scalpel. They open up a package a
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  Speaker 2: scalpel and all of the tools and just all of it,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a huge pile of it. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: scissors and whatever they call those little gadgets, those tweezers,
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  Speaker 2: And what they do at the end of it is
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  Speaker 2: they throw it away.
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  Speaker 1: They throw it away. And what happened to the autoclave?
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  Speaker 2: That device that sterilizes instruments that they used to buy
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  Speaker 2: once and then sterilize them so they can be used
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  Speaker 2: again and again. The autoclave made a lot of sense
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  Speaker 2: for two reasons. Number one, it didn't make the tools disposable,
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  Speaker 2: and number two, because of the steaming process. It really
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  Speaker 2: worked for dim sum so you could have lunch. It
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  Speaker 2: made sense. And now it doesn't exist. It just doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: Things are not made to be repaired. And what these
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  Speaker 2: repair cafes do. And by the way, it is a movement.
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  Speaker 2: It started in two thousand and nine. It's now a
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  Speaker 2: global nonprofit. Fifty nine thousand members, four thousand cafes. Last
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  Speaker 2: year eight hundred and fifty thousand items fixed. Not bad
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  Speaker 2: why because all things can be used. They were just
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  Speaker 2: built differently. Now cars are certainly better today. But well,
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  Speaker 2: let me give you example. I have a microwave oven
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  Speaker 2: that was given to me when I had got married
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  Speaker 2: first time around. That was thirty years ago. It's made
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  Speaker 2: of steel. There isn't one there isn't one piece wrong
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  Speaker 2: with it, and I've had it for thirty years. When's
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  Speaker 2: the last time you had a microwave that lasted for
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  Speaker 2: thirty years? Today it's life is disposable.
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  Speaker 1: You know what. They don't have anymore television repair shops.
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  Speaker 2: Why well, because of the cost of labor, the cost
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  Speaker 2: of spare parts, and it's just cheaper to throw away
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  Speaker 2: the TV that's broken and buy a new one. That's
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  Speaker 2: our society and this group of people are saying, whoops,
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  Speaker 2: we shouldn't go that way.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The reality is are they doing a whole lot? Well,
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  Speaker 2: there's one in New Pulse that's up in New York.
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  Speaker 2: And so there was the day of the repair cafe day. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: during the day the experts, and these are technical people
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  Speaker 2: that have expertise and they volunteer. They fixed six seventy
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  Speaker 2: one items, four needed more work, and ten of them
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  Speaker 2: were beyond repair. Now, I mean, come on, the numbers
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  Speaker 2: are tiny, but the movement is growing and it's a
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  Speaker 2: philosophy saying maybe we should build in a way that's
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  Speaker 2: not disposable. Look at the landfill, look at the environment.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the amount of energy it takes and products
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  Speaker 2: that it takes, and what it takes to create something
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  Speaker 2: out of plastic today. Well that disappears if you take
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: old equipment and repair it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what repair cafes are all about. All right.
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  Speaker 2: And when Neil comes back, incidentally, I want to ask
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: him about the disposable everything and I'm talking about thousands
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  Speaker 2: of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Incidentally, this is not cheap.
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  Speaker 2: These companies have manufacture this stuff to be thrown away
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  Speaker 2: after one use. That's no joke. All right, guys, we
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: are done. Tomorrow we come back once again. Amy is here,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Michelle filling in for Oh no, Amy is gone, She's
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: gone for the week. That's right, Sorry about that. At
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: any Heather, Heather Brooker is filling in. And Heather always
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  Speaker 2: does a great job. That actually, can me argued a
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  Speaker 2: better job? And I do, I know, I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, I'm honest.
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  Speaker 1: What can I tell you? Brutal but honest.
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  Speaker 2: Kno is here, Will is back, Michelle is in for
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Ann and I'm here for me. And that's tomorrow, same time,
• 25:25
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