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- 0:00Speaker 1: And nine.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Ignition five four three two one zero, All engine running.
- 0:23Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition,
- 0:27Speaker 3: the All Out Prediction Show with the aw Fan podcast team.
- 0:33Speaker 3: This is Kelson and we're going to go right down
- 0:35Speaker 3: the line and predict all the matches that have been
- 0:38Speaker 3: set for aw all Out this Saturday. What is it?
- 0:42Speaker 3: Three pm Eastern Time? Is the start of the show
- 0:45Speaker 3: with the tailgate at two pm? Right guys, yep, I
- 0:49Speaker 3: believe that's right. Oh yeah, it's right there on the graphics.
- 0:52Speaker 3: Stupid me. Okay you this.
- 0:57Speaker 4: What didn't you make the graphics?
- 1:00Speaker 3: Yes? I just asked, okay, yeah, not that anybody that's
- 1:05Speaker 3: listening can see them, but anyway, I don't know why
- 1:10Speaker 3: I mentioned them. Anyway, we can see them in our hurts.
- 1:13Speaker 3: We can, yes, and if you if you're very good
- 1:16Speaker 3: at projecting. So let's get started. We're gonna start with
- 1:20Speaker 3: the Trios match, the Hurt Syndicate against Ricochet and the
- 1:25Speaker 3: Gates of Agony. Interesting match, non title match. What do
- 1:31Speaker 3: you guys think? Who do you have winning this? And why?
- 1:34Speaker 3: And also why we're picking the winners. If you see
- 1:37Speaker 3: any twists, turns, you know, whatever, surprises bring them up.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Let's pick this match, the trios match.
- 1:50Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Gates of Agony, I guess because
- 1:55Speaker 1: I don't see a reason why the Hurt synecod would win.
- 1:58Speaker 1: I mean, they can put the Gates Agony over. The
- 2:02Speaker 1: only twist I can see here would be if possibly
- 2:07Speaker 1: uh the he talked if I can't think of his name,
- 2:12Speaker 1: if they talked to if the uh yeah, if the
- 2:15Speaker 1: Hurts Indy get talked to the Gates and Agony and said, hey,
- 2:18Speaker 1: he's not helping you guys out.
- 2:19Speaker 4: We can help you out, and they turn.
- 2:21Speaker 3: On Oh sure happened. So you're you're thinking maybe the
- 2:26Speaker 3: Hurt Syndicate gets in there and gets Skates of Agony
- 2:29Speaker 3: to turn on Ricochet. Yeah, okay, something like that.
- 2:35Speaker 5: I feel like, uh, Gates Agony is pretty solid. They
- 2:38Speaker 5: already got their little power up girls color scheme going
- 2:40Speaker 5: on with.
- 2:40Speaker 4: The suits and joint.
- 2:42Speaker 5: But I feel like they're gonna get over and it'll
- 2:45Speaker 5: lead to like the Hurt Syndicate kind of dissolving and
- 2:48Speaker 5: we start getting more uh Lashly and Benjamin Singles matches.
- 2:52Speaker 5: Because I know that they were teasing that at the
- 2:53Speaker 5: E c W Arena right, and like their tag run
- 2:58Speaker 5: wasn't that great in my opinion, but I think that
- 3:03Speaker 5: they would really shine as like on this doing singles joints,
- 3:07Speaker 5: you know.
- 3:09Speaker 3: Right, So you're going Gates of Agony on this one? Yep?
- 3:14Speaker 3: All right, Well let's go to m K m K.
- 3:16Speaker 3: Who do you have in this match?
- 3:20Speaker 6: I don't think it's time for Gates of magaany to
- 3:22Speaker 6: win just just yet. I think they're gonna be put
- 3:24Speaker 6: over later later on. I don't think Hurt hit it's
- 3:27Speaker 6: gonna lose two big matches in a row. So I'm
- 3:30Speaker 6: gonna go with Hurt Syndicate.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Okay, let's go to sect Seck. Who do you have
- 3:36Speaker 3: in this match?
- 3:43Speaker 4: I didn't I have.
- 3:44Speaker 7: I think I have to Hurt Sigh sign Kit because
- 3:48Speaker 7: I feel like, because I feel like they even though
- 3:54Speaker 7: they just lost the AW Tactic World Tag Team Championships,
- 3:58Speaker 7: I feel like they could win the AW World Trios
- 4:02Speaker 7: Check King Chimp.
- 4:04Speaker 8: Aw World Trios Championships down the line, right, Okay, Barry, I.
- 4:15Speaker 9: So Hurt Syndikitt didn't lose the belts. Somebody else scored
- 4:20Speaker 9: the pin in that match, and I think that's important.
- 4:23Speaker 9: I think it's too early for either Shelton and Lashly
- 4:27Speaker 9: or Gates Agony to take a pin here. But I
- 4:30Speaker 9: do think it's important that that trio that the Gates
- 4:33Speaker 9: of Agony or Rickasha Agony or whatever they're called themselves
- 4:37Speaker 9: and get the win here. So my call is Rico
- 4:39Speaker 9: Pinn's m v P. M v P can eat a pin,
- 4:42Speaker 9: no problem. So that's where I think it's going to go.
- 4:44Speaker 9: And I think there's a little more juice with this.
- 4:47Speaker 9: Hurts Syndy Kitt. They've talked about wanting to work with
- 4:50Speaker 9: Gates of Agony, and I think a one and done
- 4:52Speaker 9: is too short. I think there's some mileage you can
- 4:54Speaker 9: get out of this. So my call is Ricochet gets
- 4:57Speaker 9: the pin over m v P. I do like the
- 4:59Speaker 9: idea possibly getting Gates Agony to turn maybe at the
- 5:02Speaker 9: end of the single. I hadn't considered that, but you
- 5:06Speaker 9: run the story long enough, I think that that could
- 5:09Speaker 9: be interesting if they decided to go that way. But
- 5:11Speaker 9: I definitely see this going at least through another pay
- 5:13Speaker 9: per view.
- 5:16Speaker 3: I have a spicy prediction for this. I think that
- 5:18Speaker 3: this is going to be a no contest. The reason
- 5:23Speaker 3: why is I think that before the the pay per
- 5:29Speaker 3: view even starts. Maybe in the tailgate thing that they do,
- 5:33Speaker 3: you're gonna see maybe Anthony Bowes or Max Caster get
- 5:38Speaker 3: taken out in the back, and it's going to be
- 5:46Speaker 3: one of them. Like say, let's just hypothetically say it's
- 5:49Speaker 3: Max Caster that's taken out Billy Gunn and or Anthony
- 5:55Speaker 3: Bowen's or whatever. You know, they meet up and they
- 5:59Speaker 3: say what happened? And he tells them, but we don't
- 6:01Speaker 3: hear what happened, right, and then the acclaimed daddy ass
- 6:07Speaker 3: Max Caster and Anthony Bowen's come out, and let's just
- 6:11Speaker 3: say it was ricocheted gains a magne and took one
- 6:15Speaker 3: of them out. They come out and they take them out,
- 6:18Speaker 3: causing a no contest And I think what's going to
- 6:22Speaker 3: happen here? And the reason why I think this is
- 6:25Speaker 3: a good move is that it gets the acclaim to
- 6:27Speaker 3: back together. Plus what it also does is it gives
- 6:34Speaker 3: an ongoing story with nine guys and as nine guys
- 6:39Speaker 3: that can be involved in this, you know, and and
- 6:44Speaker 3: that's that. And then you also have you know, three
- 6:47Speaker 3: legit teams that can go after you know, the Trios Championship,
- 6:51Speaker 3: which you know I've said before, I think it doesn't
- 6:54Speaker 3: really need to exist. But that's just my opinion. So
- 6:58Speaker 3: I'm looking for no winner here, but a story to
- 7:02Speaker 3: come out of this.
- 7:03Speaker 9: That's a good idea, sudden Or Kelson. I hadn't considered
- 7:06Speaker 9: them using this to kind of reboot the Trios division,
- 7:09Speaker 9: but you're right. Coming out of this, you could have
- 7:11Speaker 9: four trios teams and really only need four or five
- 7:13Speaker 9: teams to run a division.
- 7:15Speaker 3: Well, even if the Acclaimed don't get involved in this,
- 7:19Speaker 3: I think that this is one of those grouped groups,
- 7:22Speaker 3: these two hurt Syndicate and Gates of bag and He
- 7:26Speaker 3: and Ricochet, that this should be a one and done
- 7:30Speaker 3: type thing. This should be an ongoing feud, you know.
- 7:33Speaker 3: So that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for more
- 7:35Speaker 3: of a story driven thing than anything else.
- 7:39Speaker 10: So let's go on.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Let's go on to the next match, which is going
- 7:42Speaker 3: to be the return of Eddie Kingston against Big Bill.
- 7:48Speaker 3: Who does everybody have in this one?
- 7:51Speaker 5: I know you're so excited for this one, Kelson, so excited.
- 7:57Speaker 5: I got my boy going over Big Bill in the
- 8:01Speaker 5: Battle of the Kings of New York. As they put it,
- 8:06Speaker 5: people really miss Eddie, whether you like him or not.
- 8:10Speaker 5: People really miss Eddie. I did a thing on my
- 8:12Speaker 5: Instagram where everybody and their mother was talking about all
- 8:14Speaker 5: the things that they loved and missed about him, and
- 8:17Speaker 5: everybody like, it's perfect to put it on this card too.
- 8:21Speaker 5: You know, it's like we waited all this time. He's
- 8:23Speaker 5: been ready for god knows how long. But having you know,
- 8:27Speaker 5: this going up against another show on the same day,
- 8:30Speaker 5: like it's gonna get people to tune in a big
- 8:32Speaker 5: return like this being announced. I'm excited. I'm excited. I
- 8:35Speaker 5: see my boy getting over.
- 8:38Speaker 3: All right, who wants to pick next? So we have
- 8:40Speaker 3: okay with Eddie?
- 8:42Speaker 9: Let me go earlier this time. I I'm kind of
- 8:48Speaker 9: thinking like you did on the last one. I don't
- 8:50Speaker 9: know if there's a finish here that I don't think
- 8:53Speaker 9: Eddie goes over. I think this is to set up
- 8:57Speaker 9: something else. They're really trying to make Bill a heel,
- 9:01Speaker 9: which I think is stupid. I think it's time for
- 9:04Speaker 9: a baby face because I.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Agree he's just likable. I mean, he's just a likable guy.
- 9:10Speaker 9: Calling out calling out Eddie is just I mean, you're
- 9:14Speaker 9: going to be a heel, and so if you're going
- 9:16Speaker 9: to be a heel, then go all in and give
- 9:17Speaker 9: him the mega heat. I want to see him beat
- 9:19Speaker 9: the crap out of Eddie and that's going to get
- 9:21Speaker 9: him mega heat. Eddie's sympathetic baby face. The wrinkle I
- 9:24Speaker 9: would like to see is who makes the save on
- 9:28Speaker 9: Eddie And if it's John Moxley, Mmmm, that is the
- 9:33Speaker 9: juice that I want to get.
- 9:34Speaker 3: In a big mistake. They got to do something new.
- 9:38Speaker 3: They gotta do something new, do they? I think they do.
- 9:42Speaker 3: I just well, you put your look, but don't you
- 9:48Speaker 3: think that if you bring Eddie kicks it out, it
- 9:50Speaker 3: brings out the whole memory of the exploding barbed wire
- 9:55Speaker 3: death mat.
- 9:58Speaker 10: He cares about that.
- 10:00Speaker 3: I don't that they need to stay away from that
- 10:03Speaker 3: as far as possible. I just don't want to see
- 10:06Speaker 3: Eddie at Moxley.
- 10:07Speaker 5: I think it also, I mean to disagree with Helson,
- 10:11Speaker 5: like Eddie's a face. Max is a heel right now,
- 10:15Speaker 5: and I like had like this little fantasy idea of
- 10:19Speaker 5: him like kind of helping him get out of like
- 10:22Speaker 5: this mindset he's been with the death writers because I
- 10:25Speaker 5: know that, uh, that story has been based off of
- 10:27Speaker 5: like a certain movie or whatever, and like he's in
- 10:30Speaker 5: the wrong headspace. This isn't the Mox that Eddie knows,
- 10:33Speaker 5: and I feel like him being a baby right now
- 10:36Speaker 5: could help him bring him out of this darkness. I
- 10:38Speaker 5: know that the death right.
- 10:39Speaker 10: I'm with UK.
- 10:40Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Eddie is the redemption story for Mox
- 10:45Speaker 9: and and there's unfinished business between the two of them
- 10:47Speaker 9: before he got hurt, And I'm with you, o K.
- 10:50Speaker 10: I think I think there's some more. There's there's aspect
- 10:54Speaker 10: there's another chapter that needs to be finished for them
- 10:56Speaker 10: to move on from that, and we haven't gotten closure.
- 10:59Speaker 4: He's the but I don't think this is the masch
- 11:01Speaker 4: to do it in.
- 11:02Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, So I want.
- 11:08Speaker 1: I just don't see this being the mass that you
- 11:11Speaker 1: bring Marks out to save Eddie. I kind of like
- 11:14Speaker 1: the idea of a no contest in this one too,
- 11:16Speaker 1: but I don't I don't really know. I mean, this
- 11:18Speaker 1: is coming together so quickly, and if being Eddie's return,
- 11:21Speaker 1: how do you have Eddie lose in his return?
- 11:24Speaker 4: It just doesn't make any sense to me.
- 11:26Speaker 1: So I'm taking Eddie and this one, but I think
- 11:28Speaker 1: it's going to be there might not be a winner.
- 11:31Speaker 1: There might be something like the bounty hunter might get involved,
- 11:34Speaker 1: or hell, Jericho might come.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Back and get involved in that way exactly.
- 11:39Speaker 4: I just don't see.
- 11:39Speaker 1: I don't see you be having Eddie after all that
- 11:42Speaker 1: he he's been going with almost two years.
- 11:47Speaker 5: Days since his last match in a W.
- 11:51Speaker 4: To two years than not to two years.
- 11:52Speaker 1: But anyway, either way, I just don't see you having
- 11:55Speaker 1: Eddie lose. And if I mean, if Big Bill loses
- 11:58Speaker 1: to Eddie, he's not going to hurt himself. It's not
- 12:00Speaker 1: going to hurt his career at all. So you know
- 12:03Speaker 1: this would give Eddie a leg ind to getting back
- 12:05Speaker 1: into it.
- 12:06Speaker 4: So I gotta go with Eddie.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's go to sect sack two. Do you
- 12:12Speaker 3: have an Eddie Kingston versus Big Bill?
- 12:16Speaker 7: I gotta go with Eddie Kingson via a Jericho interference
- 12:19Speaker 7: trying to.
- 12:20Speaker 10: Help Big Bill.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Interesting, think of Jericho? Interesting? Okay, what are your thoughts?
- 12:31Speaker 6: I don't like this match for a Big Bill because
- 12:34Speaker 6: he's too big of a guy and too good to
- 12:37Speaker 6: be losing to Eddie freaking Kingston. I think it'd be
- 12:41Speaker 6: a neat way of bringing Jericho back, But I just
- 12:44Speaker 6: I see it could maybe go longer of a deal
- 12:47Speaker 6: because they really haven't had much of interaction, So maybe
- 12:50Speaker 6: this goes to a no contest and they just brawl
- 12:53Speaker 6: a way too much like it was with Hobbes and
- 12:56Speaker 6: Big Bill, and they just can't finish the match or something,
- 13:00Speaker 6: and as few continues.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, for me, I'm all about logic, I
- 13:09Speaker 3: really am. When I look at matches, for some reason,
- 13:12Speaker 3: my mind goes to logic. Well, first of all, I
- 13:16Speaker 3: do want to say that I absolutely believe that this
- 13:19Speaker 3: is the weakest match on the entire card. I really do.
- 13:23Speaker 3: But logically, logically, big Bill is bigger. He's much bigger,
- 13:30Speaker 3: He's much stronger, he's much more athletic, he has much
- 13:37Speaker 3: more enterring ability. He you know, just at every possible
- 13:44Speaker 3: check mark that you can check, big Bill is better
- 13:51Speaker 3: than Eddie Kingston. Which so the logically speaking, that means
- 13:55Speaker 3: that Eddie Kingston's going to win this match and Big
- 13:58Speaker 3: Bill's careers a W is going to be ruined for
- 14:02Speaker 3: no reason whatsoever. That's just the way I feel about it.
- 14:05Speaker 3: I am dreading this match simply for the fact that
- 14:12Speaker 3: I don't think that this this is a match that
- 14:14Speaker 3: I don't think that Big Bill is going to lose
- 14:18Speaker 3: everything in this match. He's going to be with all.
- 14:26Speaker 9: Due respect, it's it's ridiculous to think that big Bill's
- 14:30Speaker 9: career in aw is going to be ruined because.
- 14:34Speaker 10: I know you don't like Eddie, but that's silly. Tellson
- 14:36Speaker 10: to come on.
- 14:37Speaker 3: That would be the same thing and we'll talk about it,
- 14:40Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I have another one just like
- 14:42Speaker 3: this later in the show, which I feel is the
- 14:48Speaker 3: same way. But the only difference is is that the
- 14:53Speaker 3: person that is the challenge because when I look at
- 14:56Speaker 3: the Eddie Kingston versus Big Bill match, look at Eddie
- 15:00Speaker 3: Kingston as the challenger here, he's you know, he's by
- 15:04Speaker 3: far like the underdog. He's coming back from an injury.
- 15:07Speaker 3: By his own admission, he can't wrestle as well as
- 15:10Speaker 3: a lot of well anybody on the roster, you know,
- 15:14Speaker 3: but you know he's he's admitted that. But in this match,
- 15:18Speaker 3: it just seems like he's he's the underdog challenger that
- 15:24Speaker 3: we haven't seen yet. I haven't seen it, what k
- 15:27Speaker 3: five hundred days?
- 15:28Speaker 5: Yeah, just about, And I think, you know, to counter myself,
- 15:32Speaker 5: I could see I can also see big Bill getting
- 15:34Speaker 5: over and honestly, like going back to the struggling character
- 15:38Speaker 5: of Eddie Kingston, like, I wouldn't be surprised if he
- 15:40Speaker 5: did come back on an abysmal losing streak, because he
- 15:43Speaker 5: did go out losing his title, he lost the three titles,
- 15:47Speaker 5: and like, that's what it's like and.
- 15:54Speaker 3: What I would really what I would really like to
- 15:57Speaker 3: see here is for somehow, some way, these two New
- 16:01Speaker 3: Yorkers end up together as a tag team, you know,
- 16:06Speaker 3: and maybe even add you know, uh Brian Keith as
- 16:10Speaker 3: one of the trios. But I think, I just I
- 16:14Speaker 3: just think that if they just outright have look.
- 16:17Speaker 10: Big Bill's beat, I think that's a brilliant idea.
- 16:21Speaker 4: You know.
- 16:24Speaker 3: My whole thing is big Bill just beat the best
- 16:28Speaker 3: wrestler live, Max Caster, who is even though he's a
- 16:32Speaker 3: goofball and his character right now is the best wrestlerlive,
- 16:35Speaker 3: is meant to get the snot beat out of him.
- 16:38Speaker 3: It still took Big Bill almost two minutes to beat him. Logically, logic, logically, logically,
- 16:47Speaker 3: big Bill should beat Eddie Kingston in I don't know,
- 16:51Speaker 3: seventeen seconds, you know what I mean, honestly think you
- 16:57Speaker 3: know so sure wrestling, yeah, but it is pro wrestling.
- 17:01Speaker 3: But I just don't like Eddie Kingston beating Big Bill.
- 17:08Speaker 3: To me, it's kind of like Sir Pentago beating Big Bill.
- 17:11Speaker 3: It would totally discredit Big Bill. Sorry, but it's the truth,
- 17:17Speaker 3: you know.
- 17:17Speaker 9: So kay, I want to get your take on this,
- 17:21Speaker 9: because Kelson, you've gotten my wheels moving here, because we
- 17:25Speaker 9: were just talking a second ago about kind of rebooting
- 17:27Speaker 9: the trio's division. And let's set aside a couple of
- 17:32Speaker 9: people who said no contests, right, Let's say there isn't one.
- 17:35Speaker 9: This is a match where if you are trying to
- 17:37Speaker 9: set them up as a trio team as two guys
- 17:40Speaker 9: from New York, right, have them battle to a double
- 17:46Speaker 9: count out, or they're both in the ring, like like
- 17:48Speaker 9: Eddie just Bill just can't put him down, but Eddie's
- 17:52Speaker 9: not strong enough to beat Bill, and they both die,
- 17:55Speaker 9: and then they get the rematch and they die again,
- 17:57Speaker 9: and then that sets up the two of them like
- 17:59Speaker 9: they hate each other, but at the same point they
- 18:02Speaker 9: build this mutual respect. And then there's something else down
- 18:05Speaker 9: the line where He's like, I'll tell you know Eddie's like,
- 18:07Speaker 9: I'll tell you what, you got my We both hate
- 18:09Speaker 9: these other guys. You got my back, I got your back.
- 18:12Speaker 9: That starts that team because like two guys from New York.
- 18:15Speaker 9: I think the two of them could really get some
- 18:17Speaker 9: juice with their promo styles together.
- 18:19Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think they could go on a run,
- 18:23Speaker 3: kill the people and they can call it the New
- 18:25Speaker 3: York Minute. I don't know.
- 18:29Speaker 1: You don't have to wait, because who is Big Bill
- 18:33Speaker 1: and then been been going up against the most dunk
- 18:35Speaker 1: callis family.
- 18:37Speaker 3: Yeah, they just they just because of Philly Devoid. Well
- 18:43Speaker 3: they really not, but.
- 18:45Speaker 4: I get that. But here's the thing.
- 18:47Speaker 1: If you want to put them together in a tag team,
- 18:49Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people are gonna want
- 18:51Speaker 1: to see four two three matches between these guys and
- 18:54Speaker 1: like that, they're gonna want something to happen. You could
- 18:57Speaker 1: have Don Kallis come out just because he doesn't like
- 18:59Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston and have his boys come out and interfering
- 19:01Speaker 1: in the match, and that turns them. I mean something
- 19:05Speaker 1: that are huge.
- 19:07Speaker 10: A couple of weeks.
- 19:08Speaker 3: You can have Chris Jericho come out and and Brian
- 19:12Speaker 3: Keith going no, Chris Jericho is my mentor, and Big
- 19:16Speaker 3: Bills like saying screw that. That's there.
- 19:20Speaker 5: You go matches against Eddie Kingston like he has they
- 19:24Speaker 5: have history like it's it's you know, I can see
- 19:27Speaker 5: it happening. I can definitely see it happening. I've been
- 19:32Speaker 5: watching nothing but oh for Chakara, Like I've been seeing
- 19:35Speaker 5: like he's done this time and time again where he
- 19:37Speaker 5: works with people that he would he has to work
- 19:39Speaker 5: reluctantly with. He's done a w like I hate you,
- 19:42Speaker 5: but I hate that guy more work.
- 19:45Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, when like the did the King of New
- 19:52Speaker 11: York with Jericho, have them run that back if they're
- 19:54Speaker 11: going to bring Jericho back on the roster and they
- 19:56Speaker 11: have them fight the demon that you know.
- 19:59Speaker 5: Banished them all because I remember it took him so
- 20:02Speaker 5: long to be Jericho and he didn't do that until
- 20:04Speaker 5: a big paper here if I remember correctly.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Yeah, My whole point is is that I again I'll
- 20:10Speaker 3: reiterate it, is that I'm all about logic and I
- 20:13Speaker 3: don't like when something happens that just the suspension of
- 20:18Speaker 3: disbelief is just too much, you know what I mean.
- 20:22Speaker 3: And Eddie Kingston outright beating Big Bill is just a
- 20:26Speaker 3: too much of a pill for me to swallow. Something's
- 20:29Speaker 3: got to happen here that causes this match to you know,
- 20:37Speaker 3: And so this is a match. The worst thing that
- 20:41Speaker 3: could happen in this match to me is for either
- 20:44Speaker 3: of them to win by one of those group roll ups.
- 20:49Speaker 3: I want to call it. You know, it's got to
- 20:52Speaker 3: have an ending to it, and I like the idea
- 20:54Speaker 3: of the double count out, I really do. It's just
- 20:57Speaker 3: going to be interesting because on its own on paper,
- 21:01Speaker 3: I don't know. I you know, I love you guys,
- 21:04Speaker 3: But if Eddie you can say to me that on paper,
- 21:07Speaker 3: this is by far the weakest match on the card.
- 21:10Speaker 3: If you don't agree with that, then I'm sorry, I
- 21:13Speaker 3: think you're nuts.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Definitive finish, Eddie beats Big Bill because Brian Keith hits
- 21:22Speaker 1: him with something from the outside costs him the match,
- 21:25Speaker 1: then break them up and leads to Big Bill in
- 21:28Speaker 1: any down the route.
- 21:29Speaker 3: They very well could be, could be you know, Chris
- 21:33Speaker 3: Jericho coming out and and you know, making Ryan Keith,
- 21:39Speaker 3: you know, orchestrating that it could be. But let's move on,
- 21:42Speaker 3: uh to frankly, what I considered to be the second
- 21:46Speaker 3: weakest match on the card, and that's Mark Briscoe Versus
- 21:52Speaker 3: and jf I. They've been doing a lot to build
- 21:56Speaker 3: this and one of the questions that I have uh is,
- 22:01Speaker 3: do you guys feel that this build towards this match
- 22:07Speaker 3: has been good enough? And also, of course, what are
- 22:11Speaker 3: your predictions for this match?
- 22:18Speaker 10: Anybody Kelson? Can you mute for just a second. There's okay,
- 22:26Speaker 10: you're gonna mute. There's some cross channel right now. We're
- 22:29Speaker 10: getting another podcast on here.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Really, I'm not hearing it.
- 22:34Speaker 10: Yes, anybody else here playing some sort of card game?
- 22:37Speaker 3: Or is anybody else hearing that?
- 22:43Speaker 4: I'm not hearing anything except.
- 22:45Speaker 10: Okay, I'll drop.
- 22:47Speaker 9: Maybe it's some weird thing in my connection, but I
- 22:49Speaker 9: can hear somebody else recording.
- 22:51Speaker 3: Yeah, drop, drop, reboot, come back and I'll let you
- 22:54Speaker 3: back in and let's go to Sutton. Then with your
- 22:58Speaker 3: pick on this uh on this match?
- 23:03Speaker 1: You know what I really this was. I have to
- 23:05Speaker 1: agree with you on this being the second weakest match.
- 23:07Speaker 1: I don't see a reason for it. You know, Mark
- 23:12Speaker 1: wants the title shot off of Kyle Fletcher and Jeff
- 23:15Speaker 1: wants the title shot at the title at the main title.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Why are they even being together? I mean, this doesn't
- 23:21Speaker 1: make any sense. This is one of those things where
- 23:23Speaker 1: I think they're going. They pushed this way past where
- 23:26Speaker 1: they needed to. This should have ended two pay per
- 23:30Speaker 1: views ago when they had the match that they had.
- 23:32Speaker 4: They don't need this match now.
- 23:35Speaker 1: I can't see Mark win because it just wouldn't make
- 23:39Speaker 1: any sense for him to beat MGF.
- 23:40Speaker 4: There's nothing in it.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I agree with you. I mean, Mark
- 23:48Speaker 3: brisco to me is probably right now without Orange Cassidy
- 23:55Speaker 3: in the UH in the active roster. Put it that way,
- 23:59Speaker 3: meaning the wrestling active roster, Mark Briscoe is by far
- 24:04Speaker 3: right now like the workhorse of AW. Let's go to
- 24:09Speaker 3: to UH, well, who else is there? Let's go to
- 24:13Speaker 3: sect and see what what he has to say about
- 24:16Speaker 3: the brisco and MJF match.
- 24:22Speaker 7: I feel like that Mark Briscoe might be MGF, but
- 24:26Speaker 7: I'm not one hundred percent sure. But I feel like
- 24:29Speaker 7: the match is going to end by someone going through
- 24:31Speaker 7: a table with fun tech fump texts because well obviously
- 24:36Speaker 7: it's like match type.
- 24:41Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that that does make I forgot about the stiput.
- 24:45Speaker 3: That's the other thing. The stipulation has done so bad.
- 24:47Speaker 3: I actually forgot about it.
- 24:51Speaker 10: I think I actually think brisco goes over here.
- 24:55Speaker 9: I don't I don't know if i'd say it's clean,
- 24:58Speaker 9: but with everything going on for MGF in Mexico and
- 25:04Speaker 9: some other stuff that that he's doing. Either this is
- 25:07Speaker 9: a way to write somebody in the chat, so there's
- 25:09Speaker 9: a way to write him off TV. I think Marcus
- 25:11Speaker 9: said that that's a good idea if he needs some
- 25:14Speaker 9: time off to do some of the filming he's doing,
- 25:17Speaker 9: so he can just focus on that in Mexico.
- 25:19Speaker 10: Or this is somebody like who's the feuding with in CMOO?
- 25:25Speaker 3: Is it Mistico?
- 25:27Speaker 9: Mystico gets involved because they've been they have not set
- 25:30Speaker 9: that match up, but they've been.
- 25:31Speaker 10: Building it and I could see that happening here.
- 25:33Speaker 3: But well, Risco, but don't forget Barry. That MJF is
- 25:39Speaker 3: fighting or as a match against Mystico Friday night.
- 25:44Speaker 9: That's Friday, Yeah, is literally MGFF is literally performing at
- 25:51Speaker 9: Arena Mexico Friday night.
- 25:53Speaker 3: Okay, and that that event starts in that event starts
- 25:56Speaker 3: at ten thirty pm Eastern, and that is flying to
- 26:00Speaker 3: Toronto to and.
- 26:04Speaker 10: He's got the shooting TV shooting and stuff in there too.
- 26:07Speaker 3: Right Dan, I think the movie that he's filming is
- 26:09Speaker 3: I want to say, in Winnipeg. I'm not sure, but
- 26:13Speaker 3: it's somewhere in the middle of Canada.
- 26:16Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 26:17Speaker 9: I the story they've been pushing with Mark is he
- 26:20Speaker 9: can't win the big one, especially with Britain. With MGF
- 26:24Speaker 9: calling that out, I think this is the one that happens.
- 26:28Speaker 9: I haven't been to figure out how they do it.
- 26:31Speaker 9: I don't think it's clean that. I think Mark comes
- 26:33Speaker 9: away with the win somehow.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, look, I mean MJF is taking on Mistico.
- 26:41Speaker 3: Like I said, the pay per view doesn't start until
- 26:45Speaker 3: ten thirty pm Eastern Time at Arena Mexico. That match
- 26:48Speaker 3: is likely to main events, so that's it'll probably be
- 26:50Speaker 3: like a one am match or something like that, and
- 26:54Speaker 3: then MGF has got to turn around and fly to Toronto.
- 26:58Speaker 3: And I do believe the ninety second anniversary for CMLL, which,
- 27:03Speaker 3: by the way, congrats on that. The oldest wrestling company
- 27:09Speaker 3: in the world today is CML Elder ninety second Anniversary
- 27:13Speaker 3: and the company has stayed in the same family the
- 27:16Speaker 3: entire time. That's amazing to me. But anyway, I don't
- 27:22Speaker 3: see MGF winning that match against Mystico, and I don't
- 27:29Speaker 3: see MGF losing two matches in a row. I'm sorry,
- 27:34Speaker 3: but I do kind of think that the thumb Tacks
- 27:37Speaker 3: and tables or whatever the hell it is, tables and tacks.
- 27:42Speaker 3: I think as they're calling it, I do think it
- 27:45Speaker 3: could be a way to write MJF off of TV,
- 27:48Speaker 3: which is unfortunate because he's going to be yet another
- 27:51Speaker 3: of aw's young talents that is not going to be around.
- 28:00Speaker 3: So let's move on. We've got the four Way Ladders
- 28:08Speaker 3: match for the a W Tag Team Championship. We know
- 28:15Speaker 3: that Brodido is part of this match, but we don't
- 28:19Speaker 3: know the other three teams. Now, the other three teams
- 28:22Speaker 3: are going to be determined by eliminator matches or qualifier matches,
- 28:30Speaker 3: whatever you'd like to call them. On September to remember
- 28:34Speaker 3: Dynamite Collision Accommodation. On Wednesday Night, you have Kip Sabian
- 28:39Speaker 3: and kill Switch against Jet Speed. You've got Etches Sero
- 28:43Speaker 3: and Josh Alexander against Top Flight, and then you've got
- 28:47Speaker 3: the Bang Bang Gang consisting of what is that, Austin
- 28:51Speaker 3: Gunn and Juice Robinson against the Young Bucks. I guess
- 28:58Speaker 3: the question I have here is two bold. I mean,
- 29:03Speaker 3: do you see any of these teams in these qualifier
- 29:07Speaker 3: matches standing out? And do you actually think anybody think
- 29:12Speaker 3: that when it comes to this four way ladders match
- 29:15Speaker 3: and all out is Brodido. Does that Do any of
- 29:20Speaker 3: these teams realistically have a chance to stop Berdida?
- 29:32Speaker 8: Yeah, Kelson, I think they dopect me here.
- 29:36Speaker 3: Well you know what, Barry, Well look, Barry, here's the
- 29:38Speaker 3: way it is. You know, I'm gonna be honest with
- 29:40Speaker 3: you right now. Everybody sees you as the leader. And
- 29:43Speaker 3: if you're not talking, as soon as I stop talking,
- 29:46Speaker 3: there's just going to be a dead silence.
- 29:48Speaker 9: So I'm torn on this one. Like I don't think
- 29:53Speaker 9: Brodido needs a long term run, but they're still hot,
- 29:57Speaker 9: so I'd ride them a little bit longer. I don't
- 30:01Speaker 9: this is the party match of the show. Frankly, I
- 30:03Speaker 9: don't think it really matters who wins. I think this
- 30:06Speaker 9: is going to set up a new angle for the Bucks,
- 30:09Speaker 9: and I agree what'll come out of this. Maybe they
- 30:13Speaker 9: come back and beat Brodido down the line, but I
- 30:17Speaker 9: don't want anybody to get hurt. They can't afford any
- 30:22Speaker 9: more people to be out. But like this a true
- 30:25Speaker 9: pretty match, I think Brodiito retains. I don't think there's
- 30:28Speaker 9: a reason to reduce it to anybody else yet.
- 30:31Speaker 1: Marcus and that chat said he thinks the Bucks just
- 30:34Speaker 1: beating Alexander and Hitch you Sarah will be the three teams.
- 30:37Speaker 1: I gotta agree with him. I think that's going to
- 30:39Speaker 1: be the competition.
- 30:40Speaker 10: Yeah, that works.
- 30:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it really doesn't matter. I don't think.
- 30:44Speaker 1: I don't think it's time for Brodiita to lose just yet.
- 30:48Speaker 1: I don't think they need to lose the titles of
- 30:50Speaker 1: a pay per view either, So this might be their
- 30:53Speaker 1: last pay per view as the champs, but I don't
- 30:55Speaker 1: think they're going to lose them tomorrow on Saturday.
- 30:59Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's a good call.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you, sec What do you got on
- 31:04Speaker 3: this one?
- 31:08Speaker 7: I feel like I feel like Brodido might retain. But
- 31:13Speaker 7: I feel like that, Yeah, I feel like the Young
- 31:16Speaker 7: Bucks will Peterneck challengers Peterneck chunters ahead of the time,
- 31:21Speaker 7: since they're trying and build this story about the Young
- 31:23Speaker 7: Bucks trying to be like build them back up to
- 31:27Speaker 7: like how they were before. I just feel like, I
- 31:33Speaker 7: just feel like Brodido might might be retaining here tonight.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got yet another fantasy booking masterpiece for you guys.
- 31:48Speaker 3: If you watch Being the Elite this week, we saw
- 31:51Speaker 3: at the very end of being the elite. Jack Perry
- 31:56Speaker 3: mmmm said the box of knife, saying based, here's a
- 32:01Speaker 3: nice similar to the one you stab me in the
- 32:03Speaker 3: back with, you know, kind of alluding to I'm going
- 32:06Speaker 3: to screw up your matches. I would not be at
- 32:09Speaker 3: all surprised that being said, for the Bucks to win
- 32:13Speaker 3: on Dynamite, for kill Switch and Kip Sabian to win
- 32:20Speaker 3: on Dynamite, and to be honest with you, not just
- 32:25Speaker 3: Sarah and Jocks Alexander just seemed like the guys to
- 32:28Speaker 3: win on Dynamite. But I think I think overall, I
- 32:33Speaker 3: think when it comes to this pay per view, we're
- 32:35Speaker 3: gonna see Jack Perry. I think the Bucks will be
- 32:39Speaker 3: on the verge of beating Bandido, but Jack Perry will
- 32:43Speaker 3: come out from under the ring, stab them in the back,
- 32:48Speaker 3: and Brodido will retain, and then the Bucks will go
- 32:54Speaker 3: after Jack Perry and Lucasaurus, not kill Switch will come
- 33:03Speaker 3: to the rescue of Jack Perry, and Jungle Express will
- 33:07Speaker 3: be reborn at all out That's my thoughts.
- 33:12Speaker 10: That's not bad.
- 33:14Speaker 9: Yeah, that's not a bad point. Didn't so who had
- 33:16Speaker 9: the pin in the party match?
- 33:18Speaker 3: Did? Bro?
- 33:18Speaker 10: Do you know eat that pin from one of the bucks.
- 33:23Speaker 3: Did.
- 33:23Speaker 9: Yeah, So yeah, they're gonna they're going to retain. And
- 33:26Speaker 9: I think you're I think you're right there. I don't
- 33:29Speaker 9: think that's a bad idea at all. Uh for for
- 33:32Speaker 9: Perry to come back and cost them when they're about
- 33:34Speaker 9: to win.
- 33:34Speaker 10: I think that makes a lot of sense.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I I I just a w with the high
- 33:42Speaker 3: probability of m JF not being around because of his
- 33:46Speaker 3: filming schedule as much he needs Jack Perry, they need
- 33:50Speaker 3: Darby Allen, and they need these They need you know, Bandido,
- 33:55Speaker 3: they need these young hot guys. When I'm saying hot
- 33:59Speaker 3: their I'm talking about how over they are. They need
- 34:03Speaker 3: these young hot guys because you can't I mean, you
- 34:08Speaker 3: can't rely on Moxley and the older and that that
- 34:13Speaker 3: set Jericho, even the Hurt Syndicate, you know, the guys
- 34:17Speaker 3: of that age. You don't even I can even loop
- 34:20Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston in there, and you can't put those guys.
- 34:25Speaker 3: And they need these, They need the younger guys like
- 34:27Speaker 3: Kyle Fletcher, Bendito, you know, Darby Allen, whatnot, you know.
- 34:33Speaker 3: And I just think that that's important. Speaking of young guys,
- 34:38Speaker 3: we're gonna get totally away from that now and we're
- 34:41Speaker 3: gonna go to what a lot of people in Toronto
- 34:44Speaker 3: especially would likely say should be the main event, and
- 34:47Speaker 3: that's Christian Cage and Adam Copland against f t R.
- 34:58Speaker 1: The You can't you can't have FDR beat them in Toronto.
- 35:03Speaker 4: That would that would that would cause riot.
- 35:06Speaker 3: It would be the Toronto all screw job if that.
- 35:14Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, like this is like the sting in
- 35:17Speaker 9: Darby retirement match. This is the case. Give the people
- 35:21Speaker 9: what you want. You're not FDR doesn't need any more heat.
- 35:25Speaker 9: They can continue this feud like this is this is
- 35:29Speaker 9: this is on a silver platter. Give us what we want.
- 35:32Speaker 9: We want to cheer, we want to get our moment.
- 35:34Speaker 9: Give it to us, and I think they will.
- 35:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if they have FDR win this match,
- 35:41Speaker 3: I hope it's the main event because I don't think
- 35:43Speaker 3: that they could probably go on with the show after.
- 35:46Speaker 10: If they win.
- 35:47Speaker 9: There like megaplants that are huge, because like that's nuclear
- 35:51Speaker 9: heat if that happens.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, sect what do you think?
- 35:56Speaker 3: I mean, do you agree with pretty much everybody across
- 35:59Speaker 3: the board that it's got to be it's got to
- 36:03Speaker 3: be Copeland and Christian it's an uncle.
- 36:09Speaker 7: If I don't think and Christian don't win, I don't
- 36:12Speaker 7: know what's I don't know what's gonna be if happens
- 36:14Speaker 7: going to the rest of this car if if it
- 36:16Speaker 7: is in the middle of the event, this match has
- 36:19Speaker 7: happened in the main event, or or else, oh might
- 36:24Speaker 7: go up and fire in the rest of the event.
- 36:27Speaker 7: If after our does win, Yeah, uh I.
- 36:34Speaker 3: There's really not a whole heck of a lot to
- 36:35Speaker 3: say about this match, so let's move on. We've got
- 36:38Speaker 3: for the TBS Championship Mercedes Monet versus ReHO. And I
- 36:45Speaker 3: know that Jim Cornett loves ReHO, But do you guys
- 36:49Speaker 3: love Riho in this match? I don't.
- 36:53Speaker 10: I don't think she can win. She's got she just
- 36:56Speaker 10: didn't you have a final on Monday, she's got to
- 36:58Speaker 10: study for. She can't be out.
- 37:00Speaker 3: Oh my god, you went there, you went there.
- 37:05Speaker 9: Every time she shows up at school's early tonight, Rio's here.
- 37:10Speaker 9: She looked really rusty. She looks really rusty, and I
- 37:15Speaker 9: don't see her. I like her, but I I don't
- 37:19Speaker 9: think she's ready for this match yet. Honestly, I think
- 37:23Speaker 9: I think she's she should not be in this match
- 37:25Speaker 9: right now.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to well, let's go to sect. What
- 37:31Speaker 3: do you think about this match?
- 37:35Speaker 7: It's ready for a monette because Rio isn't.
- 37:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta.
- 37:46Speaker 7: I gotta say, I gotta agree with this reminds me
- 37:50Speaker 7: of what Kelson told me a couple of weeks back.
- 37:52Speaker 7: But probably probably Mercedes is going to keep this tell
- 37:57Speaker 7: until wrestler dream.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, because there's no they don't want it to
- 38:04Speaker 3: beata frames from the beginning.
- 38:07Speaker 1: She's breaking She's not losing the title until she breaks
- 38:11Speaker 1: Cargill's record, end of story period.
- 38:14Speaker 4: I don't care who you put her up against.
- 38:16Speaker 1: You could put her up against the entire locker room,
- 38:18Speaker 1: and they are not taking that title off her until
- 38:20Speaker 1: she breaks Cargill's record. And that's I don't think it's
- 38:24Speaker 1: as far as Russell dream, but that's when she'll lose it.
- 38:27Speaker 1: But not until then, which is sad. I think we've
- 38:32Speaker 1: I really wish we would win it because real, I mean,
- 38:35Speaker 1: she's been gone for a while, but that's on herr Uh,
- 38:39Speaker 1: that's on I think it was a lot to do
- 38:41Speaker 1: with visa issues or something.
- 38:44Speaker 3: She had a broken wrist that yeah, and she came
- 38:48Speaker 3: back out about that and she heard it again. So
- 38:51Speaker 3: I mean she had a risk that got injured twice.
- 38:53Speaker 10: Basically, uh yeah, she can still she can still win
- 38:58Speaker 10: the title. I just don't think it needs to be.
- 38:59Speaker 10: I don't think it's going to be this one.
- 39:01Speaker 9: I wouldn't be opposed to her being the one to
- 39:02Speaker 9: beat her, but to be Mercedes, I just I don't
- 39:05Speaker 9: think it's on this paper.
- 39:05Speaker 3: View. Yeah, I agree to you.
- 39:09Speaker 2: Know.
- 39:09Speaker 3: Look, remember earlier in the show when we were talking
- 39:12Speaker 3: about the Eddie Kingston and Big Bill match, and I said,
- 39:14Speaker 3: there was another match on this card that I thought
- 39:17Speaker 3: made no sense whatsoever. This is the one I love rio.
- 39:25Speaker 3: She gets teased a lot for being small, but the
- 39:31Speaker 3: fact of the matter is is she's not ever been
- 39:35Speaker 3: the smallest wrestler in aw She's small, but she's not
- 39:39Speaker 3: the smallest. And if you've keep in mind one of
- 39:44Speaker 3: the she came from t.
- 39:46Speaker 9: J p W.
- 39:47Speaker 3: That's where she built her her fame, I guess, you know.
- 39:52Speaker 3: And they dress like little fairies over there. You know,
- 39:58Speaker 3: it's just plain and simple. You look at somebody like
- 40:02Speaker 3: me and Yamashada, she doesn't. She looks like she could
- 40:06Speaker 3: kill you, right, but pretty much everybody meu watanabayt at
- 40:12Speaker 3: t J PW is this cute thing and she's a unit.
- 40:18Speaker 3: You know she can She She deadlifted Willow Dightingale and
- 40:23Speaker 3: body slammed her. She picked up Willow Dightingale with one
- 40:28Speaker 3: arm and issued a backbreaker. These women are strong. If
- 40:33Speaker 3: you look at pictures of Rijo outside of wearing her
- 40:40Speaker 3: ring attire, there are like workout videos of Rijo. She's
- 40:48Speaker 3: a muscle. She's a unit, believe it or not. She's small,
- 40:53Speaker 3: but she's ripped. Don't you have to see past the
- 41:02Speaker 3: she got.
- 41:02Speaker 10: The Bruce Lee like leaning sight.
- 41:05Speaker 3: Yeah, but but I mean when you look at her,
- 41:08Speaker 3: like her abs are like holy crap. You know, you
- 41:12Speaker 3: gotta look at her because she doesn't show her abs
- 41:15Speaker 3: really in the outfits that she wears, you know, and
- 41:18Speaker 3: it's it's just it's disconcerting seeing someone like Rijo out
- 41:25Speaker 3: of her wrestling gear because it's different. But that being said,
- 41:31Speaker 3: I agree with you said, Barry, she's rusty, because I
- 41:35Speaker 3: do believe that Rio is one of the best technical
- 41:37Speaker 3: wrestlers in the women's division. When you know, prior to
- 41:43Speaker 3: this era of the women's division, when you're talking about
- 41:47Speaker 3: when she was the champion the Daili's Place era, she
- 41:52Speaker 3: was one of the standards of technical wrestling. I mean,
- 41:55Speaker 3: she's actually very very good at technical wrestling, all right.
- 42:01Speaker 3: But like Sutton said and what Sex said, Mercedes is
- 42:10Speaker 3: not going to lose this match until Russell Dreams. She's
- 42:13Speaker 3: going to beat, meaning Mercedes going to beat Jake Cargill's
- 42:18Speaker 3: record two days before Russell Dream the next pay per view,
- 42:23Speaker 3: the challenger at Wressell Dream will win the TBS Championship,
- 42:29Speaker 3: mark my words on that. And I believe that that
- 42:33Speaker 3: wrestler will be a Zoomie. I really do. I believe
- 42:39Speaker 3: it will be a Zumi that is going to win
- 42:42Speaker 3: the TBS Championship off of Mercedes Monet and she's in
- 42:45Speaker 3: a hold up for a few weeks and then lose
- 42:47Speaker 3: it back to Mercedes Monet or maybe lose it to
- 42:52Speaker 3: somebody else in a three way. But it's not going
- 42:55Speaker 3: to be a clean match, I guess the best way
- 42:59Speaker 3: to put it, uh yeah, But I just don't understand this.
- 43:03Speaker 3: I really I don't really understand this match. This was
- 43:06Speaker 3: thrown together. I love Riho, but it's just, you know, again,
- 43:14Speaker 3: it goes down to the Eddie Kingston a big bill thing,
- 43:16Speaker 3: just the same thing as I believe it does with Riho,
- 43:19Speaker 3: even though she hasn't wrestled and she's rusty. Rio's I mean,
- 43:25Speaker 3: she loses this match, which she will, which I also believe.
- 43:29Speaker 3: You know, if there is a winner in the Eddie
- 43:30Speaker 3: Kingston Big bill match, it's going to be Eddie Kingston.
- 43:35Speaker 3: They're gonna have a hard time coming back from that.
- 43:38Speaker 3: I just don't see it. I just don't see it.
- 43:41Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just weird to be the only
- 43:44Speaker 3: thing that could possibly save Riho after this match is
- 43:48Speaker 3: a if she's able to stick around in AW for
- 43:51Speaker 3: a length of time this time, and if she were
- 43:54Speaker 3: to get involved with a good tag team partner in
- 43:57Speaker 3: the AW Women's Tag Team Championship, you know, the Belt tournament.
- 44:03Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, Tanny w you get over.
- 44:06Speaker 9: As long as she's like one of those, It's like
- 44:09Speaker 9: Briscoe man, she was just rehost, perpetually over, just like
- 44:12Speaker 9: Mark's over. He doesn't even he never wins, He's always
- 44:16Speaker 9: going to be over. Rehos is always going to be over.
- 44:19Speaker 9: So even if she eats in here and it's a
- 44:21Speaker 9: couple of fun matches. She's she's right back there.
- 44:25Speaker 3: Yeah. Now now we get onto John what I think
- 44:28Speaker 3: is the meat of the pay per view because a
- 44:32Speaker 3: lot of the matches we've talked about, we all seem
- 44:35Speaker 3: pretty convinced of what was going to happen. A lot
- 44:38Speaker 3: of them we kind of knew who was gonna win.
- 44:41Speaker 3: Now we're getting into the meat of the pay per
- 44:43Speaker 3: view where maybe it's a question. Uh, We'll start with
- 44:48Speaker 3: John Moxley and Darby Allen in a coffin match. What
- 44:52Speaker 3: do you guys think about this?
- 44:58Speaker 10: Ston you take up a time.
- 45:00Speaker 4: Will. I think Darby's gonna win.
- 45:04Speaker 1: I don't know why, and I think for some reason
- 45:06Speaker 1: it is a coffin match, so that means there won't
- 45:08Speaker 1: be there won't be anybody.
- 45:10Speaker 4: I mean, people get interfered there's not gonna be and
- 45:11Speaker 4: be getting beat up for that.
- 45:13Speaker 1: But I got a feeling that Maxley's gonna be on
- 45:16Speaker 1: his own in this one, and uh, Daniel Garcia might
- 45:19Speaker 1: have a little bit to do with the loss.
- 45:22Speaker 4: But I don't know. I just I just think Darby's
- 45:24Speaker 4: gonna win.
- 45:25Speaker 9: It, I thinks, And I think it's along the lines
- 45:33Speaker 9: though that you said Sutton for heat purposes. Darby is
- 45:39Speaker 9: the baby face of babyfaces, and he's a heat magnet
- 45:43Speaker 9: for heels to get a heat on. And if you're
- 45:45Speaker 9: trying to really establish Garcia as a heel like you
- 45:48Speaker 9: were getting at Sutton, I think him screwing over Garby
- 45:51Speaker 9: and being heavily involved here with Marx to secure that win.
- 45:55Speaker 9: That's a good opportunity to do that. I can't think
- 45:57Speaker 9: of other scenarios in near future you can get this
- 46:00Speaker 9: kind of heel heat like legit hel heat on Garcia
- 46:05Speaker 9: then having them screw.
- 46:06Speaker 10: Over Derby and and help Box win. So I halfway
- 46:10Speaker 10: agree with Sutton.
- 46:11Speaker 9: I disagree with the finish, but I think you got
- 46:13Speaker 9: you got a couple of things right there.
- 46:15Speaker 3: So fact, what do you think?
- 46:23Speaker 7: Okay, So my thinking before Dan Garcia was is that
- 46:27Speaker 7: the sports Dane Garcia joined the Death Writers was that
- 46:31Speaker 7: I believe that Darby was gonna win this match to
- 46:34Speaker 7: make Moxley to only to make Max at least take
- 46:38Speaker 7: a break for a while, because Moxley hasn't got like
- 46:41Speaker 7: a good, good long break and like in Forever and Plus.
- 46:47Speaker 7: But but now I feel like that Darby, I feel
- 46:50Speaker 7: like that Mosley might win. Is because over over like over,
- 46:55Speaker 7: to get like as Barry said, to get get Grisia
- 47:01Speaker 7: as more of heat more as a heat magnet.
- 47:07Speaker 3: Right. Well, Tiva Rustling in our chat said something, and
- 47:11Speaker 3: he said something that you know, kind of makes sense.
- 47:14Speaker 3: He said that Moxley is not going to lose until
- 47:16Speaker 3: a stipulation is made that the Death Riders have to
- 47:22Speaker 3: break up if or disband if Darby wins, And that
- 47:27Speaker 3: kind of makes sense when do you think about it.
- 47:29Speaker 3: It does kind of make sense on its own. I
- 47:33Speaker 3: kind of think if there's anything that's gonna happen interesting
- 47:36Speaker 3: in this match, it's gonna be that Staying shows up
- 47:38Speaker 3: and stops the Death Riders from interfering in this match.
- 47:43Speaker 3: But I think Moxley's gonna win. I don't think that
- 47:52Speaker 3: you can have Darby winning this match because I think
- 47:56Speaker 3: that if Darby wins it it closes the door. I
- 47:59Speaker 3: think this is gonna be a ongoing feud.
- 48:03Speaker 10: Yeah, so they do. Mox does not.
- 48:07Speaker 9: They do not have mox lose often, and when he
- 48:11Speaker 9: does eat Pins, it typically is a significant moment for
- 48:15Speaker 9: a character. They do not waste those opportunities often. So
- 48:19Speaker 9: I don't think now is the time for that I
- 48:21Speaker 9: don't think the storyline's good enough. We aren't anticipating it
- 48:25Speaker 9: and needing that blowoff like with Hangar finally beating Max
- 48:29Speaker 9: for the belt. So I agree, I think there's some
- 48:32Speaker 9: mileage and to keep that going. I think you're right.
- 48:36Speaker 9: I think Mox needs to win this.
- 48:38Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, let's move on to what I am sure
- 48:41Speaker 3: are going to be called the co made events of
- 48:44Speaker 3: this evening of All Out uh and the first match,
- 48:48Speaker 3: which I think will be the first match and not
- 48:51Speaker 3: the closing match. But I think the first match will
- 48:56Speaker 3: be hang Man Adam Paige against Kyle Fletcher. I think
- 49:00Speaker 3: that the Women's Warway is going to close this out, uh,
- 49:03Speaker 3: hang Man at A Page and Kyle Fletcher. Is it
- 49:07Speaker 3: too soon for Hangman Adam Page to lose the aw
- 49:13Speaker 3: Men's World title?
- 49:17Speaker 4: I think it is.
- 49:18Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 49:21Speaker 1: I think it's too early for Kyle to win it.
- 49:24Speaker 1: I think he needs to lose once at least once,
- 49:28Speaker 1: and then then come back and do it later at
- 49:30Speaker 1: another pay per view. Just there's so much going on
- 49:34Speaker 1: with the Don Klis family right now. You have so
- 49:37Speaker 1: many things that could open up in that with like
- 49:40Speaker 1: they've they've got the things where you've got ta Keshta
- 49:42Speaker 1: and uh the they're they're battling between each other, him
- 49:47Speaker 1: and Okada that they're kind of like vying for who
- 49:51Speaker 1: the better of the two are. You've got so many
- 49:53Speaker 1: things that this and this could turned out because because
- 49:56Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Donald's got his hand so
- 50:00Speaker 1: many pockets right now he doesn't really have He's always he's.
- 50:03Speaker 4: Laying up the cash. He's playing up o'connie, he's playing
- 50:06Speaker 4: up Kyle. You can't have three top those.
- 50:10Speaker 1: And if Kyle loses this match, that'll knock him down
- 50:13Speaker 1: a little bit, and it opens up a new story
- 50:15Speaker 1: for that line.
- 50:15Speaker 4: That's just the way I see it happen.
- 50:18Speaker 9: Okay, I go ahead, Yeah, I think I think Hanger
- 50:24Speaker 9: wins for a bit of a different reason. I agree
- 50:29Speaker 9: with Sutton that that Kyle Kyle winning or Kyle losing
- 50:34Speaker 9: makes better sense narratively, and it gives gives him a
- 50:37Speaker 9: lot more options. I think it's I think it's too
- 50:39Speaker 9: soon from right now. I may not have thought that
- 50:42Speaker 9: way if this was two or three months ago and
- 50:46Speaker 9: Swerve and Osprey were healthy and still performing, and Omega
- 50:50Speaker 9: was there. Right now, it is important that aw continues
- 50:56Speaker 9: with a Babyface Champion.
- 50:58Speaker 10: I've said this a bunch of times. I don't think
- 51:00Speaker 10: it's a coincidence.
- 51:00Speaker 9: A lot of their resurgence has been with Babyface, very
- 51:04Speaker 9: strong babyfaces, and they are hurting in that area right now,
- 51:08Speaker 9: and because of that, almost that alone, i think it's
- 51:11Speaker 9: important for Hangman to keep this title for a while.
- 51:14Speaker 9: I think Fletcher will be a world champion, could even
- 51:16Speaker 9: be this year. Maybe it's too soon. We can debate
- 51:18Speaker 9: that down the line, but for this match, I think
- 51:21Speaker 9: Hangar needs to retain specifically because it is important for
- 51:25Speaker 9: a popular, hot babyface to have one of these titles.
- 51:30Speaker 9: And I'm gonna piggyback on why in the next match,
- 51:34Speaker 9: because if it goes the way, I think there may
- 51:37Speaker 9: only be one Babyface with a big championship with it
- 51:40Speaker 9: with a singles title right now, and that can be
- 51:42Speaker 9: a dangerous position when you're you don't have a lot
- 51:45Speaker 9: of other top stars to pull from.
- 51:49Speaker 3: I'm going to kind of backtrack a little bit here
- 51:52Speaker 3: to Wednesday Night and September to remember if you look
- 51:58Speaker 3: at the all out card, one thing that's missing other
- 52:02Speaker 3: than the Kyle Fletcher match is there's no Don Kalm's family.
- 52:08Speaker 3: So in order for the don Kallis family to have
- 52:10Speaker 3: a presence all out ETCESO and Josh Alexander have to
- 52:15Speaker 3: win this match. And I think, of course they'll probably
- 52:18Speaker 3: will win this match, but it will be for the
- 52:22Speaker 3: various reasons. And we all saw it over the last
- 52:30Speaker 3: couple of weeks, Takesha is really getting a kind of
- 52:34Speaker 3: a face turn thing going on. I think that what's
- 52:39Speaker 3: going to happen is that what happens in the Etchestero
- 52:46Speaker 3: and Josh Alexander against Top Light match is going to
- 52:51Speaker 3: exacerbate and further to Keshta's baby face turn. When it
- 52:59Speaker 3: gets to this match, I think that you're going to
- 53:04Speaker 3: see the don Kallis family try to interfere in this match,
- 53:08Speaker 3: and Takesha is going to stop that interference out of
- 53:13Speaker 3: pure disgust and therefore get hang Man Adam Paige the
- 53:20Speaker 3: win in this match. And I think what that does
- 53:23Speaker 3: is that it it keeps Kyle Fletcher in the in
- 53:27Speaker 3: the UH, in the in the picture, It keeps to
- 53:32Speaker 3: Keshta in the picture, not only for the World Championship,
- 53:36Speaker 3: but also for the UH whatever you want to call
- 53:40Speaker 3: the Unified Championship, whatever one UH. It puts them in
- 53:44Speaker 3: a space for the C two, which is going to
- 53:47Speaker 3: be starting probably in the next.
- 53:51Speaker 10: Yeah, Chad, Chad tipped us off. We missed the match,
- 53:54Speaker 10: which I think may impact what you're what you're booking here.
- 53:57Speaker 10: The triple threat it's not only does it look like
- 54:01Speaker 10: it's on there is it isn't it on the show?
- 54:03Speaker 1: I thought it was And I was like when he
- 54:05Speaker 1: said that, I'm thinking, wait a minute, what about to
- 54:07Speaker 1: Catch and kind for the triple match with I don't
- 54:10Speaker 1: remember who won the other match?
- 54:12Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the graphic.
- 54:15Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 54:17Speaker 3: Stupid me. Okay, who's who's in the triple threats?
- 54:24Speaker 4: I don't remember the third person?
- 54:26Speaker 10: It's uh Tempori or there's yeah somebody. Yeah that's Mortos mors.
- 54:33Speaker 3: And against Messcara Dorado, I believe.
- 54:37Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that's.
- 54:41Speaker 3: Yeah. That the window that goes on the face of
- 54:43Speaker 3: the triple threat.
- 54:45Speaker 10: The family representations.
- 54:49Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I still think that even in that match,
- 54:53Speaker 3: maybe in that match to Catch it gets involved, you know,
- 54:57Speaker 3: he's in the match talk in the uh September to
- 55:05Speaker 3: Remember match.
- 55:06Speaker 9: Yeah, I think we all see that that takesha is
- 55:09Speaker 9: the next one. They're turning babyface it was nice to
- 55:12Speaker 9: see them holding like holding back pulling the trigger on that.
- 55:16Speaker 9: And I also don't think it's a coincidence we're seeing
- 55:19Speaker 9: them push some new top babyfaces now and they waited
- 55:23Speaker 9: because I don't think we're have dropped the potella surgery
- 55:26Speaker 9: on them. I think they knew he was going to
- 55:28Speaker 9: take time off. I think Osprey realized a little while ago,
- 55:31Speaker 9: and so Tony had to pull the trigger in a
- 55:32Speaker 9: couple of turns. And that take one is something we've
- 55:35Speaker 9: all been waiting for. You know, he was a huge
- 55:37Speaker 9: babyface before he went heel. I don't think he beats
- 55:41Speaker 9: Okata here.
- 55:42Speaker 10: But that is the match. I think the C two
- 55:44Speaker 10: is what you build it to, and he takes them
- 55:46Speaker 10: in the finals.
- 55:47Speaker 3: Let's let's talk about let's just quickly talk about beast
- 55:50Speaker 3: Mortos against Mascarado. I did not see beast Mortos with
- 55:53Speaker 3: a snowballs chance at hell that he may win it.
- 55:59Speaker 3: But it's going to take the Don Collas family to
- 56:02Speaker 3: to win that. You know what I mean, It's gonna happen,
- 56:04Speaker 3: It's gonna take It's gonna take outside.
- 56:08Speaker 10: Do you think I don't think Martos wants I.
- 56:10Speaker 3: Don't think so. I think it's gonna take you know,
- 56:13Speaker 3: Don Collas is gonna take Eli Fi. It's gonna take
- 56:15Speaker 3: everybody to get get person on the show. Yeah, you know,
- 56:21Speaker 3: and who knows, maybe Andre Andrew de lat a little
- 56:24Speaker 3: come out and help Mortos win.
- 56:28Speaker 4: You never know.
- 56:29Speaker 3: I don't know that whole That whole situation is a mess.
- 56:33Speaker 3: But anyway, let's move on to what I think will
- 56:36Speaker 3: be the main event. Well, well, let's go to the
- 56:39Speaker 3: triple for threat match. I I see to Kesha winning that.
- 56:43Speaker 3: I don't want to win.
- 56:44Speaker 10: You guys, I think Okada retains. It's for the title.
- 56:47Speaker 10: I think Ocada retains, and I think to catch the
- 56:49Speaker 10: beats him in the finals of the C two.
- 56:52Speaker 3: Okay, for the title, Yeah, I don't know.
- 56:58Speaker 1: I'd like to see when you because Ocada needs a break.
- 57:03Speaker 1: He's had the title for the whole almost the entire
- 57:06Speaker 1: time part of it, almost the entire time he's been
- 57:08Speaker 1: in aw so he can stand the loss.
- 57:14Speaker 3: Well to me, O'cada is the only one that's actually
- 57:17Speaker 3: held the title, so.
- 57:20Speaker 2: You know.
- 57:21Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, the reason I think Takesha is
- 57:25Speaker 3: gonna win it is simply because he's young and he's hot.
- 57:27Speaker 3: You know, meaning that he's got the crowd behind him,
- 57:30Speaker 3: even though he's a heel. I do think that he's
- 57:33Speaker 3: got the crowd behind him. I think him turning babyface
- 57:37Speaker 3: is the reason they're doing this. I think that you
- 57:40Speaker 3: need to put the pelt out the keshta. I mean,
- 57:42Speaker 3: it's not like he hasn't earned it. He just won
- 57:44Speaker 3: the tournament that o'conna is famous for. Make OCDA win
- 57:49Speaker 3: the next tournament.
- 57:51Speaker 4: You know.
- 57:51Speaker 10: That's not againstrapping them up. I just I think we
- 57:54Speaker 10: haven't gotten enough out of the story.
- 57:56Speaker 9: Though, like I think there's some more between I want
- 57:59Speaker 9: to see them face off, and if he gets the belt,
- 58:01Speaker 9: I don't want it to be over.
- 58:02Speaker 10: Then they got to run this and he's.
- 58:04Speaker 3: Got to get My point, powder point to what you
- 58:07Speaker 3: just said is I agree that we haven't gotten enough
- 58:10Speaker 3: out of the story, But what else can they do
- 58:14Speaker 3: with the story? We're two Japanese guys that don't speak
- 58:16Speaker 3: very much English, you know what I mean. So, I
- 58:22Speaker 3: mean that's the story.
- 58:23Speaker 10: I I don't think you can you can book around
- 58:26Speaker 10: that pretty I don't.
- 58:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying. I just say, and I don't
- 58:29Speaker 3: think they can get much more out of the story,
- 58:31Speaker 3: though they've got to book the story in order to
- 58:34Speaker 3: get more out of it. If they keep doing the
- 58:35Speaker 3: same thing and keep a strap on o Kada, the
- 58:39Speaker 3: story went nowhere.
- 58:40Speaker 10: We need to see Don's Don needs. This match is
- 58:44Speaker 10: about Don picking aside. Don Calas is going to pick
- 58:48Speaker 10: a side in this match, and he's going to pick Okada,
- 58:51Speaker 10: and he's gonna stab Takesha in the back, and he's
- 58:54Speaker 10: going to make Takesha to the most sympathetic baby face
- 58:57Speaker 10: coming out of this pay per view other than maybe
- 58:59Speaker 10: Eddieking's and we are all. He doesn't even need to talk.
- 59:03Speaker 9: He just music needs to hit and everyone's gonna want
- 59:05Speaker 9: to go beat beat the crap out of Don Kalla's
- 59:07Speaker 9: family people until he gets his hands on Okada. Maybe
- 59:10Speaker 9: it's before the C two, but that's why I don't
- 59:12Speaker 9: think he wins. We need to see the Don kallis
- 59:15Speaker 9: stab him in the back, and there's no better way
- 59:17Speaker 9: than the screw amount of a title he's about to
- 59:19Speaker 9: like he's about to pin Okada. He's beaten Okada. The
- 59:23Speaker 9: Champion of the g One has beaten Okada. He is
- 59:26Speaker 9: gonna get this belt and Don Kallas stabs him.
- 59:28Speaker 4: The met.
- 59:31Speaker 3: I would be surprised with the baby face turn that
- 59:34Speaker 3: Takesha's tag team partner, and the guy that will help
- 59:38Speaker 3: him will be the guy that takes to beat multiple times,
- 59:44Speaker 3: Kenny Omega Kenneth. I do think that Kenny will step
- 59:49Speaker 3: up and be to Kesha's partner with takes turns baby face.
- 59:54Speaker 3: Let's move on to what I think will be the
- 59:55Speaker 3: main event, the women's four way for the aw women Championship.
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: We've got Tony Storm defending her belt against Jamie Hayter,
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: Chris Statlander and Tekla. Who wins this and why?
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: I know.
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: That from what you said earlier, very I kind of
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: get the idea that you don't think that Tony Storms
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: walking out of this one with the belt.
- 1:00:25Speaker 9: I don't think Tony Storm's walking out of the belt.
- 1:00:27Speaker 9: I think it's time. I think it's time to get
- 1:00:29Speaker 9: another like Tony's. With that last pay per view, they
- 1:00:34Speaker 9: made her. She is the ace of the division. You
- 1:00:37Speaker 9: have three very popular performers. Whether they go, there's a
- 1:00:42Speaker 9: case for all three of them. Stat's got a natural
- 1:00:44Speaker 9: storyline here. We've been watching Beckla's new hot talent. Everybody's
- 1:00:48Speaker 9: excited to see her. Jamie Hater's triumphant return, who never
- 1:00:52Speaker 9: got her rematch against Tony Storm after losing the belt
- 1:00:54Speaker 9: to her. Like, there are three very good performers in here,
- 1:00:58Speaker 9: and I don't think it's going to be Tony. And
- 1:01:00Speaker 9: if they go with a heel, then like these two matches,
- 1:01:05Speaker 9: the title matches, both title matches are like symbiotic to
- 1:01:09Speaker 9: each other. If regardless of if a heel wins one,
- 1:01:13Speaker 9: a babyface has to win the other one. They need
- 1:01:15Speaker 9: to have a hot babyface as one of the two champions.
- 1:01:20Speaker 10: I think two heels would be just just the wrong move.
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: So if.
- 1:01:26Speaker 9: Fletcher loses, if Fletcher wins, then I think it's going
- 1:01:29Speaker 9: to be Hater as assuming she's a babyface. I think
- 1:01:33Speaker 9: there's a good chance Stat does some helish stuff here.
- 1:01:36Speaker 9: We'll see how that goes. I don't know, but yeah,
- 1:01:38Speaker 9: any rate, long story short, I don't think Tony Ing retains.
- 1:01:41Speaker 10: I think one of the other three, thinking of I
- 1:01:42Speaker 10: just don't know who.
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: All right, well, let's go to sect. What do you
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: think who's going to win the four way here?
- 1:01:52Speaker 7: I think I got Stat to win because even though
- 1:01:56Speaker 7: doctor Kim building up as her to be like that,
- 1:01:59Speaker 7: another person that joined the Death are joined the Death
- 1:02:02Speaker 7: writers because Mosley has been like giving her guidance. I
- 1:02:06Speaker 7: just I just feel like stat Lander will win because
- 1:02:08Speaker 7: it's definitely Tony's trying to win, because a lot of
- 1:02:11Speaker 7: people are calling like, because a lot of people are
- 1:02:14Speaker 7: pretty much calling like Tony's ring a little bit boring.
- 1:02:18Speaker 7: But it's been, it's been, it's been. It's been great overall,
- 1:02:24Speaker 7: I think, But I just feel like it's it needs
- 1:02:27Speaker 7: to be come to then soon.
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: All right, Well, hope something.
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: I agree with Barry and uh with Sicked. I don't
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: think it that Tony's walking out the camp. I hope
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: it's Statlander because she deserves to have the win. She's
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: been hustling so long and has never really been given
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: a shot until now.
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: You know, Jamie came back.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: She's come back, she's gotten better, but she just hasn't
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: been around enough to have her win the title for
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: me yet, I don't think she's ready.
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: Uh and was too new too, So I can definitely
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: see Statlander winning it. It'll either be Statlander or uh hater.
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got all kinds of thoughts about this. All right. First,
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: I will say right off the bat, Tony Storm needs
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: to drop the strap. Secondly, I will say that Tony
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: Storm doesn't need the strap to be Tony Storm. She
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: doesn't need this belt. She's great with the belt and
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: without the belt, so why not put somebody else over
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: with the belt. That's the way I look at it.
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: I find it interesting that on Dynamite we're having a
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: no holds barred match between Queen Aminada and Tecla. Why
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: are you gonna have this match the week, you know,
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: just days before, not even a week to days before
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: the pay per view. If Techla loses this match, she's
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: basically like, what the hell is she doing in the
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: main event? That out kind of things? You know, tech
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: Tecla is going to win this match against Queen Amanada,
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: plain and simple. Now, when I look at Jamie Hater. Oh,
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: by the way, I do not agree with anybody that
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: says that Tecla hasn't been there long enough. She's been
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: there for over five months, and AW has had plenty
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: of world champions that have been there for five months
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: or less. She's Boxley Job Boxley being one of them.
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: I do not think. I don't think that Techla is
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: going to win the title. I just think that's saying
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: that she hasn't been there long enough is a very poor,
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: uh excuse, because AW again has had world champions that
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: had not been there long been with aw less time
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: than Tecla has. When you look at Jamie Hayter, I
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: kind of agree that she has don't really proven it
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: proven herself yet. You know, she's been in and out
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: with injury, uh, and she's not really had.
- 1:05:09Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: I just don't if she's had a seat at your win,
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: I don't remember it, so that kind of that's that's
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: kind of the fact.
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of the big things about this
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: match is that the winner has I think she has
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: to lose the title this way. I don't think you
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: can have like it leaves too much open discussion. If
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: Tecla wins or either the other two win and they
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: don't pin Tony Storm, it leaves too much. Yeah, well,
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: she didn't lose to me, you know, I just don't
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: want to see that happen. I want to see her
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: get beat to lose the title outright.
- 1:05:52Speaker 10: Welling, Tony has a lot of weight, and if you
- 1:05:57Speaker 10: are crowning a new champion, if it's satur effect lat
- 1:06:00Speaker 10: I one hundred percent agree with you, Sutton. You put
- 1:06:03Speaker 10: that pin on Tony because that carries much more weight
- 1:06:06Speaker 10: than a pin on anybody else in that match.
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I've given my opinions on Hater, and I've
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: given my opinion on Tony Storm and on Tackling. I
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: haven't given my opinion on Chris Statlander in this match.
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: First and foremost, I do not want to see Chris
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: Statlander join the Death Writers. Why because Daniel Garcia just
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: joined the Death Writers. I don't want the death Writers.
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: First of all, I think the Death Writers of course
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: are not that strong to begin with, but I don't
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: want them to become like the nWo of AW where
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: they just start recruiting new members every other week. They
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: recruited Daniel Garcia keep Statlander away. If Statlander becomes the
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: champion and also becomes a member of Death Writers, I
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: would see that as the worst thing that could possibly
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: happen in this match. I really and truly do. If
- 1:07:07Speaker 3: stat Lander wins this match clean without the Death Writers, beautiful,
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: my pick to winness match is Jamie Hayter. She's got
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: the built in feud with Tony Storm. They can run
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: it back at Russell Dream whatever they've got the story there.
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: Tony Storm doesn't have a story with Tecla. She certainly
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: doesn't have a story with Chris Statlander. The only one
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: in this match is Tony Storm has a story with
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: is Jmi Hayter. And that's why Jamie Hater. If Tony
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: Storm drops the title, it should be the Jamie Hater.
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: Even though I agree with Sutton when he said that, hey,
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: you know, and I said it, Hater hasn't done enough yet.
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: But I just think the story is there, and that's
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: only reason why.
- 1:08:01Speaker 9: As a former champ, she brings default credibility to so
- 1:08:06Speaker 9: if you're gonna if you're gonna give somebody a belt
- 1:08:08Speaker 9: who's just coming back, it's a lot easier to do
- 1:08:11Speaker 9: that in a former champ than you know, a new
- 1:08:13Speaker 9: person that was in the middle of a push before
- 1:08:15Speaker 9: they left.
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, look the way I look at it is this,
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: we are going to get the Women's World Tag Team
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: Championships sometime in the next ten years. I'm absolutely convinced
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: of that. Hopefully within the next five months. I'm hoping
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: that we get a tournament that happens. Jamie Hater's kind
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: of out a in an Island there, Tony Storm has
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: Mina Sherikawa, Christatlander has Willow Nightingale. Whether people don't want
- 1:08:46Speaker 3: to believe it or not, Techless got whoever she wants
- 1:08:48Speaker 3: from the Triangle Triangle of Madness, you know. So it
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: just makes sense because if Jamie Hater becomes the world champ,
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: then we have somebody that that could form tag teams.
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: I mean, what are you gonna do? Who are you
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: gonna put Jamie Hater with Britt Baker. That's never gonna happen,
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: you know. So you know that's the whole thing. Well,
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: that's all the picks. Uh, let's do a pot pourri, uh,
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: just to see if there's anything that anybody wants to
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: talk about. Does anybody have a pot Prix go ahead? Yeah?
- 1:09:33Speaker 9: Yeah, So I stumbled upon a game called Vampire Saviors
- 1:09:38Speaker 9: on Game Pass for Xbox. It's about it's been out
- 1:09:42Speaker 9: for about two years, multi platform. It's a blast. So
- 1:09:46Speaker 9: if you like rogue light type games and enjoy games
- 1:09:50Speaker 9: like Smash TV, it's a lot of fun. You just
- 1:09:53Speaker 9: get in stages, max time you can be on in
- 1:09:56Speaker 9: this thirty minutes. That's the goals to survive and death
- 1:09:58Speaker 9: comes and kills you tons of characters, unlock tons of weapons,
- 1:10:02Speaker 9: unlock all sorts of cool character builds. You go into
- 1:10:05Speaker 9: each each arena to make just just a real blast,
- 1:10:08Speaker 9: fun little thing to throw it down for fifteen thirty minutes.
- 1:10:11Speaker 10: When you need a we need a little fixed. So
- 1:10:13Speaker 10: I thought that was the fun game I wanted to share.
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: All right, anybody else have a potpourri? No, so I'll
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: go ahead, sick, sorry, go ahead.
- 1:10:30Speaker 7: So I've actually found I know this is like pretty
- 1:10:33Speaker 7: popular in new in Japan, but I found a really
- 1:10:37Speaker 7: popular wrestling anime. But I probably know you guys probably
- 1:10:41Speaker 7: heard of is Tiger Mask w And I gotta say
- 1:10:46Speaker 7: it's pretty good since it has the likes of keny
- 1:10:48Speaker 7: Omega back when he was Bowl club leader and Kasutra
- 1:10:51Speaker 7: Okada back in there. So it was like quite fun
- 1:10:55Speaker 7: because you get to see like what the history of
- 1:10:58Speaker 7: Tiger Mask was, because I know Codo Bushi was Tiger
- 1:11:01Speaker 7: Mass at one point and a lot of other people.
- 1:11:05Speaker 7: I just want to stay that out since and it's
- 1:11:09Speaker 7: it's it's a really good anime.
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: Interesting. You'll have to post a link to where you
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: can look at that and the uh.
- 1:11:20Speaker 10: On the discord. So we can all in an episode too.
- 1:11:24Speaker 10: Suplexes a t Rex that I remember, of course he
- 1:11:28Speaker 10: did in some anime. He doesn't mineral.
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: He's also a part of it. My father, Well, I
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: have a pope fri. Uh and uh, this may not
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: come as surprise to any of you, but uh, you know,
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: a w fan hub has been around for quite a while,
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: uh and spawned a couple of different uh subreddeads and communities.
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: You know, we're on Blue Sky, We're on x We're
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: on Discord, We're on Instagram, we're on threads. We used
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: to be on YouTube. We're not anymore. But that's a
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: totally different story. But because we just stopped uploading YouTube
- 1:12:11Speaker 3: videos because it wasn't doing much. But you know, we've
- 1:12:15Speaker 3: been growing. We've got three subreddits under us now. One
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: that we just opened at the July thirty first, so
- 1:12:22Speaker 3: essentially it's only been opened for about a month and
- 1:12:25Speaker 3: a half now, and that's Women's Pro Wrestling and it's
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: already keme to almost nine hundred members, and I think
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: that's pretty good. But my poprie specifically about somebody joined
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: the aw fan hubb community followed the aw fan Hubb community.
- 1:12:46Speaker 3: I posted it earlier today and because I just thought
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: it was funny. Did you guys see who joined the
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: aw FANDOB community community and followed us?
- 1:12:57Speaker 10: I did, but I can't see their name. It just
- 1:13:00Speaker 10: says something.
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: It just it just says, yeah, their name's not there.
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: John Cena followed.
- 1:13:06Speaker 10: Oh that's why I couldn't see it, okay, Yeah, And I.
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: Thought that that was hysterical. I really did, because we
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: weren't following him. He followed. We follow him now, but
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: he followed us out of nowhere, and uh, I just
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, I just thought the timing was
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: great because you had Russell Palooza going against all Out
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: and the main eventor at Russell Palooza follows a w
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: fanhob like three literally four days before. I wanted to know. Yeah,
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: I know, we were just like and I've been having
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: fun with it. I mean, I posted it on the
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: w W boards, I posted it on the aw boards,
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: and everybody's just good naturedly, you know, making fun of
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: it because it's just it's just you know, look, chun
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: chun Cena. You know, I almost it was tacky. I'll
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: say it here, but what I made it post saying
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: John Cena followed aw fanup. I wanted to say, John Cena,
- 1:14:09Speaker 3: you know, followed aw fan up, best make a wish ever,
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: you know. And I didn't post that because I thought
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: it would be tacky.
- 1:14:19Speaker 10: But I'm not afraid to say it, you know, but
- 1:14:21Speaker 10: that's funny.
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: Because I just I don't know. But anyway, I just
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: thought it was cool that John Cena followed. And we've
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: been reposted, and you know, people have been talking to us, uh,
- 1:14:35Speaker 3: you know, like in the last like two weeks. I
- 1:14:38Speaker 3: mean you the names of wrestlers that have liked and
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: reposted and commented on our stuff on social media. Uh,
- 1:14:49Speaker 3: and it's all been positive because we don't post negative stuff.
- 1:14:52Speaker 3: There's too much of that. My whole thing is, you know,
- 1:14:55Speaker 3: let's keep it positive, you know. And uh, you know,
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: so I've been posting about not only aw stuff, but
- 1:15:06Speaker 3: some indie matches and stuff, and the indie people are
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: responding to us, you know, and so we've had, you know,
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: all kinds of things.
- 1:15:14Speaker 10: It's just cool.
- 1:15:15Speaker 3: Just it's really cool when you get you know, somebody
- 1:15:19Speaker 3: like Mina shi Kawa liking a post to yours, or
- 1:15:23Speaker 3: you know, Turbo Floyd responding to you and sir Pentico
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: responding to you and giving like a little jab, like
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: a little tongue in cheek thing, you know, you know,
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: saying hey, we like your posts, so we just wanted
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: to respond kind of thing.
- 1:15:40Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:15:40Speaker 3: It's cool. It really is fun. It makes it kind
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: of worth it for the work you do. One thing
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: I can honestly say is an aw itself. Nor Tony
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: Kahana has ever liked anything we've done in nearly now
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: we're coming up on almost three years of supporting aw
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: AW fan hub. Come on, guys, throw us a bone, Missy.
- 1:16:06Speaker 9: It does. It is a fun, little extra layer of
- 1:16:09Speaker 9: fandom though, because you know, we watch them every week
- 1:16:13Speaker 9: and we really I mean they put their bodies on
- 1:16:16Speaker 9: the line for us every week to entertain us. You know,
- 1:16:18Speaker 9: they they literally do that, and you don't get a
- 1:16:21Speaker 9: chance to say thanks, Hey, this was a lot of fun.
- 1:16:24Speaker 9: So it's it's neat to know that people that you
- 1:16:27Speaker 9: really enjoy and appreciate sometimes hear it directly from your mouth.
- 1:16:30Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:16:31Speaker 10: Yeah, you don't take them for granted, like you appreciate
- 1:16:34Speaker 10: it every time they're out there.
- 1:16:36Speaker 3: But we're not afraid to say when something doesn't work either,
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: and look the way I explained that, Look, we weird
- 1:16:43Speaker 3: this community. The AAW fanub community is not a raw
- 1:16:47Speaker 3: raw raw. AW is so much better than anything in
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: the world, and they never do anything wrong. That's not us.
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: We will point out when we don't like something, However,
- 1:16:58Speaker 3: that doesn't mean we don't dislike AW. The best analogy
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: I can give to that is, let's say you're an
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons fan Week one against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: and your kicker misses a field goal that costs you
- 1:17:13Speaker 3: a chance to go to overtime. Well, just because you're
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: an Atlanta Falcons fan doesn't mean you can say that.
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: You can't say that you were disappointed in the kicker
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: purmissing the field goal, or your favorite baseball team the
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: pitcher gave up five home runs, you had an off game.
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: Just because you're a fan of that team doesn't mean
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: you can't admit that one of the players had an
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: off game. You know, that's stupid because everybody knows he
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: had an off game. Everybody knows that the kicker missed
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: the field goal, you know what I mean. So that's
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: the whole point about it, you know, I mean, So
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: that's the way we approach aw phantom. Now, of course,
- 1:17:51Speaker 3: you do have trolls to come into the community and
- 1:17:53Speaker 3: they spew whatever they're spewing, and that's not appreciated. And
- 1:17:59Speaker 3: you can tell a troll for some reason, I don't
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: know if you ever noticed this about trolls. Watch it.
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: If you're reading on whatever social media you're on, you
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: can tell a troll because they always end their sentence
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: with l O L or m L m ao. I
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: was like, why do you do that? You're just pointing
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: out that your troll, you know so, But that's the point.
- 1:18:22Speaker 3: I mean, I just wanted to point out on my
- 1:18:24Speaker 3: pot poiri that yeah, you know, guys like John Cena
- 1:18:29Speaker 3: are following a w fan up. So John Cena, if
- 1:18:32Speaker 3: you're listening to this, and I know you are because
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: you're a big fan, now, welcome, welcome, and it's good
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: to have a fellow sicico following us.
- 1:18:44Speaker 10: You know how many other people does he follow? Yeah?
- 1:18:51Speaker 9: John followed our community after following seventeen million people before.
- 1:18:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just just like just like on X alone,
- 1:18:59Speaker 3: on X alone, he follows well over a million people.
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: So but we're special, yeah, you know, because we saw
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: him when he when he followed us. All the other
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: people they couldn't see him. We saw, I know, yeah,
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: well I did.
- 1:19:17Speaker 10: It's just a blank followed.
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: Us who have followed us. Yeah, but yeah, I just
- 1:19:26Speaker 3: thought it was funny. I mean, you know, and we've
- 1:19:29Speaker 3: been having fun with it all that, looking forward to
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: finishing this podcast. So I go look at some more
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: comments because we've been having fun with it. God, well
- 1:19:41Speaker 3: he's I mean he's retiring when in November.
- 1:19:45Speaker 9: Yeah, but I mean, like imagine like Brock hurts him
- 1:19:48Speaker 9: and like he can't do his retirement match. Like anyway,
- 1:19:55Speaker 9: that's for a different show.
- 1:19:59Speaker 3: It is what it is. I mean, I just think
- 1:20:04Speaker 3: it's funny, you know. But anyway, By the way, we
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: will not be doing I'llie Talk tomorrow night, which is
- 1:20:16Speaker 3: our normal after Dynamite review show, because Dynamite doesn't end
- 1:20:22Speaker 3: until probably like eleven ten tomorrow night, because they're doing
- 1:20:26Speaker 3: two hours of Dynamite and one hour of Collision.
- 1:20:30Speaker 4: For the.
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: You know, go home show of All Out. One thing
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: I also wanted to mention is that it has been reported.
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: Now keep in mind on Saturday a two pm Eastern time,
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: what hour before the pay per view All Out on
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: TNT there's going to be the Tailgate Show, the All
- 1:20:57Speaker 3: Out Tailgate Show, and then you're gonna have to normal
- 1:21:00Speaker 3: Zero Hour on YouTube and all wherever you bought the
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: pay per view. Now, the way it was explained that
- 1:21:07Speaker 3: I saw, I believe Dave Meltzer, no booze, okay, But
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: Dave Meltzer explained it is that the Zero Hour show
- 1:21:20Speaker 3: on YouTube and on the pay per view purchased app
- 1:21:24Speaker 3: whatever you use it for, is just going to be
- 1:21:27Speaker 3: a hype show, backstage segments, you know, recap videos, whatever.
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: The Tailgate Brawl is going to be the show with
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: matches on it, and that's the one that's going to
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: be on TNT and on HBO Max. So make sure
- 1:21:46Speaker 3: that if you want to see matches, that you're watching
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: the brawl, the Tailgate Brawl, and if you want to
- 1:21:52Speaker 3: see hype, then you watch the Zero Hour. All right.
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: And so that being said, we're out of here. We'll
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: see you again next Tuesday night, where I'm sure we'll
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: have a lot to say about what happened at All
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: Out forty aw Fan podcast team. Thank you guys for
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: joining us. This is Kelson, good night, everybody,