Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Ann Kenda - TPR's In Focus - August 31, 2026
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- 0:07and snack options, located on Troy University's Montgomery campus
- 0:11across from the Rosa Parks Library and Museum.
- 0:15From Troy Public Radio, this is In
- 0:19Focus, and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson. For more
- 0:23than 6 years, Ann Kenda has greeted you with
- 0:27the news of the day as our host of Morning Edition.
- 0:30She has also reported on Alabama issues for
- 0:35NPR, and she is the creator of a true crime
- 0:38podcast called Inside Job: Understanding
- 0:43Vicki White. We caught up with Ann, who has moved back
- 0:47home to Massachusetts to be with family.
- 0:52Ann Kenda, it is an honor
- 0:56to bring you back to Troy Public Radio. Welcome. Hi,
- 0:59Carolyn. Thanks for having me. Ann, where are you right now?
- 1:03I'm in Sudbury, Massachusetts. We miss you.
- 1:07Your fans miss you. I miss you. We are hearing
- 1:11from your fans. Where is Ann? So we're talking about
- 1:15a return to your roots, right? I am. Just tell them Sudbury,
- 1:19Massachusetts. But then most people haven't heard of it, so you might have
- 1:23to explain. It's a suburb of Boston. Ann, you were with Troy
- 1:26Public Radio more than 6 years. Time has flown.
- 1:31And we so have loved depending on your newscasts,
- 1:35your podcast. What are some of your favorite times
- 1:39with Troy Public Radio listeners? I was just thinking about
- 1:44that because over 6 and a half years, there is so much to pick from.
- 1:48There were so many special and important moments.
- 1:51I would say my top favorite is just Morning Edition
- 1:55itself. It is such an important show. It was really a pleasure to be
- 2:00your Morning Edition host for that long and to really get to know Alabama,
- 2:04and Carolyn, your podcast helped me out with that so much because
- 2:08there was a lot I had to catch up on with Alabama history.
- 2:11So every day I heard In Focus, I got to learn
- 2:15a little bit more about my new state. So thank you for that. Well,
- 2:18you started the listeners out every day.
- 2:22They have come to love and depend on your broadcast.
- 2:26Aside from that, Ann, you got involved in
- 2:30podcasting. Inside Job podcast.
- 2:34That was one of the most intriguing stories I have ever heard.
- 2:38Take us behind the scenes of the podcast. Sure,
- 2:41that's very high on my favorites list. So Inside Job:
- 2:45Understanding Vicki White, it explored the story
- 2:49of Vicki White, who is an Alabama prison guard who
- 2:53did a very daring escape with an inmate who she
- 2:57had fallen in love with. They went on a wild escape
- 3:01that ended some 11 days later, and it did end tragically
- 3:05with the suicide of Vicki White. And I remember covering
- 3:08that for NPR as it was unfolding. There were various milestones
- 3:13along the way. There were sightings. The couple changed cars
- 3:16several times. They were pretty good at getting away, but they did eventually
- 3:21get caught in Evansville, Indiana.
- 3:24And the podcast came from the idea that we wanted
- 3:28to learn even more about it. There was so much that we still
- 3:32wanted to talk about, questions that we still had and wanted to just experience
- 3:36the whole story about Vicki White. So that's why we came up with Inside
- 3:40Job: Understanding Vicki White. So she was
- 3:4456 years old. She was a very well-respected and well-regarded
- 3:48prison guard with a successful career, and she was getting
- 3:52ready to retire. But she did fall for an
- 3:56inmate, Casey White. They had the same last name even though they were
- 4:00not related, and that caused some confusion. So they went on
- 4:03their escape and got away with it for quite a while, and then it ended
- 4:08tragically. And when we were thinking about what went into this and
- 4:11what was the last moment when Vicki could have turned away from
- 4:14this fiasco, and we started thinking about
- 4:18prison guards themselves. They're often not talked about or
- 4:22not acknowledged. It's not as respected as a career as it should
- 4:26be. It's a very difficult and demanding and important job. It should pay more,
- 4:31but they do experience a lot of PTSD and stress and depression.
- 4:35And we found out quite a lot about that too. The interesting
- 4:38point about Vicki White, when I was listening
- 4:42to your Inside Job podcast, the fact she
- 4:46was in grief at the time she maneuvered this
- 4:50prison escape with Casey White. Yes, the escape
- 4:54occurred in April of 2022.
- 4:57And the previous January, just 3 or 4 months earlier,
- 5:01her ex-husband had died from Parkinson's disease.
- 5:05People tended to dismiss her grief. They said, well, it was
- 5:08your ex-husband. And if you've experienced grief,
- 5:12which I know you have and I have, you know that it's not that simple.
- 5:16I think she had what could maybe be described as a functional
- 5:21breakdown. She was able to function to the point where
- 5:24it was in disguise from other people. And meanwhile,
- 5:28she was getting together with this inmate, which of course is highly
- 5:32illegal in that setting. Convincing herself that she
- 5:35had no choice but to break him out of jail so that they could go
- 5:39off and have a life together. It was a very unrealistic
- 5:43plan from the beginning, but they did make a strong attempt at it.
- 5:47It did end with Vicki White's suicide. I couldn't
- 5:52stop thinking about the entire story. So it
- 5:55all came together. And if you didn't get a chance to hear it, it's still
- 5:59available now wherever you get your podcasts. It's Inside Job: Understanding Vicki
- 6:03White. So glad that it is still available. And I must
- 6:08mention your uncle, who is? Joe Kenda. So you may be
- 6:12familiar with that name. He's on TV and writes books. He was a homicide
- 6:17detective in Colorado Springs. And many years later,
- 6:20he was asked to share his expertise. So you might have seen him
- 6:23on Homicide Hunter or American Detective.
- 6:27And yes, that's my uncle. Did your uncle influence
- 6:31your interest in true crime stories? He definitely
- 6:35did because Because I started watching Homicide Hunter just
- 6:40to see my uncle, and then I found myself intrigued by all of
- 6:44the stories. Any chance I got to either cover true crime
- 6:48as a reporter, or to be a listener
- 6:51to other podcasts or watch it on TV, something about
- 6:55true crime is really addictive. Back to your memories
- 6:59with Troy Public Radio. Any others you want to share with your listeners?
- 7:03Sure. I remember covering the Carly Russell case
- 7:07for NPR. That was a kidnapping hoax that occurred in Alabama in
- 7:112023. So I got a chance to delve into
- 7:15that. And I just have a memory of when Carly
- 7:18first claims to have been kidnapped, it was later proven to
- 7:21be a hoax. But when it was first coming out as a possible kidnapping,
- 7:26I remember reading it on the air during the news and just
- 7:30thinking, wait, this doesn't make sense to me. I just had my suspicions.
- 7:33And I was thinking, I will gladly gladly stand corrected if it turns out
- 7:37that this potential kidnapping was taking place.
- 7:40Covered that story for NPR through when she pleaded guilty
- 7:44to false reporting and made some amends. That was a really interesting
- 7:48true crime case in Alabama. Also,
- 7:52in 2024, the library wars were heating
- 7:55up in Alabama, and I had a very important opportunity to
- 7:59cover that for NPR. So that was about books
- 8:03for kids and whether or not they are sexualized books being
- 8:07aimed at kids, or if it's just book banning and censorship.
- 8:11So we talked to everyone we could about that and aired that on
- 8:14NPR. And that was in April of 2024. And that
- 8:18is, it's a powerful memory for me. You have brought a journalist
- 8:22perspective into these issues, such as the true crime genre.
- 8:27So I think you have brought a lot to the table for your
- 8:30listeners. Well, thank you. I really appreciate that. It was
- 8:34quite a learning experience and something I still
- 8:37think about to this day, everything that unfolded with the Vicki White
- 8:41case. And I enjoyed working with Austin Toy at Troy
- 8:44Public Radio. He was really, really good at helping me out with
- 8:48that. So that's a good memory. Well, Ann, in conclusion,
- 8:51do you have any messages for your fans and your listeners?
- 8:55I definitely miss hosting Morning Edition every day.
- 8:59I still listen and stay in touch. You can find me on
- 9:02Facebook, or if if you happen to be in Sudbury, Massachusetts, look me
- 9:06up. Thank you so much for all that you have brought to your listeners,
- 9:10your fans, and the staff and Troy University.
- 9:13Thank you. That was Ann Kenda, Troy Public
- 9:17Radio's host of Morning Edition for 6 and a
- 9:21half years. We wish Ann all the best with our gratitude
- 9:25as she returns home to Massachusetts to be with her family.
- 9:30Thanks for joining us today for In Focus, which is a
- 9:34podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Feel free
- 9:37to get in touch at infocus@troy.edu.
- 9:41I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported
- 9:45Troy Public Radio.