Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 30th March 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the thirtieth of March twenty
- 0:12Speaker 1: twenty six, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brian Gerrish. Delitte to have Ben Rubin
- 0:19Speaker 1: with me in the studio.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Delighted to be here.
- 0:22Speaker 1: And what a busy news we've got today. Now we're
- 0:25Speaker 1: going to kick off with the good news. And the
- 0:27Speaker 1: good news is a reminder that in our aunt section
- 0:31Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about UK Column's twentieth anniversary
- 0:35Speaker 1: coming up in September. We've got the Easter holidays coming up,
- 0:39Speaker 1: give you plenty of time to think about it. But
- 0:41Speaker 1: we're also going to be talking about tickets on sale,
- 0:44Speaker 1: so stay with us for that alone. Now, we've got
- 0:49Speaker 1: a huge number of things happening in the world, lots
- 0:52Speaker 1: of turbulence, lots of headlines. We're going to take a
- 0:56Speaker 1: deep look today into the war, protests against the war,
- 1:00Speaker 1: and essentially, Ben, you're going to be taking our audience
- 1:04Speaker 1: into a closer look at the divide and rule tactics
- 1:07Speaker 1: that are being used. We're going to have a look
- 1:10Speaker 1: at the possible invasion of carg Island, which appears to
- 1:14Speaker 1: be Trump's key target but is it really Trump or
- 1:18Speaker 1: is it Israel that's driving the agenda there, We're going
- 1:21Speaker 1: to be taking a look at the government's compassionate interests
- 1:25Speaker 1: in veterans and what that really means within a bigger
- 1:29Speaker 1: political picture. Ben, you're having a look at the progressive cabal,
- 1:35Speaker 1: the socialist new World Order. Effectively, we're going to be
- 1:39Speaker 1: having a little look at missile problems which are clearly
- 1:43Speaker 1: affecting not only the Israelis but the US, and Ben,
- 1:49Speaker 1: you're ending today on a look at the BBC's new
- 1:52Speaker 1: director general and the amazing power politics around that. Quite extraordinary. Well,
- 1:58Speaker 1: let's kick off with the President or should I say
- 2:02Speaker 1: the King, King Trump. Let's have a little listen to
- 2:05Speaker 1: what he's been saying.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Well, we've had regime change if you look already, because
- 2:13Speaker 3: the one regime was decimated, destroyed, they're all dead. The
- 2:17Speaker 3: next regime is obstly dead, and the third regime we're
- 2:21Speaker 3: dealing with different people than anybody's dealt with before. It's
- 2:24Speaker 3: a whole different group of people. So I would consider
- 2:28Speaker 3: that regime change, and frankly they've been very reasonable. So
- 2:32Speaker 3: I think we've had regime change. But you can't do
- 2:34Speaker 3: much better than that.
- 2:38Speaker 1: So what a remarkable man. We just keep killing them
- 2:41Speaker 1: till we get people we think we can deal with
- 2:44Speaker 1: the reasonable ones, and if they don't act reasonably, then
- 2:48Speaker 1: we keep killing them. This is effectively what Trump has said,
- 2:51Speaker 1: and he's repeatedly said it. But let's look at a
- 2:55Speaker 1: little bit more detail here. He said, to be honest
- 2:59Speaker 1: with you, my favorite thing is to take the oil
- 3:01Speaker 1: in Iran. But some stupid people back in the US
- 3:05Speaker 1: say why are you doing that? But they're stupid people.
- 3:09Speaker 1: This is quite a clue to what's going on in
- 3:12Speaker 1: the Middle East that basically it's get in and take
- 3:15Speaker 1: the oil. Nothing really has changed much there, ben And
- 3:19Speaker 1: if we add a little bit more. He also said this,
- 3:23Speaker 1: maybe we take carg Island. Maybe we don't. We have
- 3:26Speaker 1: a lot of options. It would also mean we had
- 3:30Speaker 1: to be there. He means in carg Island for a while,
- 3:34Speaker 1: and we'll add the next one. I don't think they
- 3:38Speaker 1: have any defense. We could take it very easily. So
- 3:43Speaker 1: Trump at least who we describe King of America there,
- 3:46Speaker 1: Because as we'll see fairly shortly, this is one of
- 3:49Speaker 1: the key terms used in the protests. He's very cocky
- 3:53Speaker 1: when he's talking to the media, but he changes his story.
- 3:57Speaker 1: If he doesn't like anybody who's there in Iran, he's
- 4:01Speaker 1: going to kill them. He's going to keep bombing them
- 4:05Speaker 1: till they come round to his point of view. So
- 4:07Speaker 1: this is vicious stuff. Then at the end of the
- 4:09Speaker 1: end of the day, and not surprisingly, there has been
- 4:12Speaker 1: a backlash with demonstrations, particularly this weekend. Let's just have
- 4:17Speaker 1: a little look at some of the demonstrations in the US.
- 4:21Speaker 1: And this is a little composite clip, so there are
- 4:24Speaker 1: a number of locations in the US in this clip.
- 4:29Speaker 1: We're playing it with sound just to give a bit
- 4:31Speaker 1: of impact for what was happening on the ground. You
- 4:54Speaker 1: come down, well classic there we mentioned sound. Of course,
- 5:21Speaker 1: a lot of noise in those marches, drums, bells, whistles,
- 5:29Speaker 1: all sorts of things that you could hear, as well
- 5:31Speaker 1: as the shouts of the people themselves. But clearly a
- 5:34Speaker 1: lot of people desperately unhappy with what's going on. And
- 5:38Speaker 1: as I say, that little clip was from across the US,
- 5:42Speaker 1: it wasn't just confined to one major city. Now, of course,
- 5:48Speaker 1: there were also protests going on in Israel. And if
- 5:52Speaker 1: we just bring this on screen, we can see some
- 5:55Speaker 1: of this aheadline in English, no more feeding the war machine. Basically,
- 6:01Speaker 1: as the Western protests were well either dissolved or were
- 6:06Speaker 1: maneuvered into left right diviid, Jews were on the streets
- 6:11Speaker 1: protesting against the war in tel Aviv. Let's have a
- 6:15Speaker 1: look at this little video clip.
- 6:19Speaker 4: War against Iran. Protesters opposed is really militarism. Protesters criticize
- 6:25Speaker 4: Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminathania who and the cops and protesters
- 6:29Speaker 4: clash in tel Aviv. So unrest in tel Aviv as
- 6:33Speaker 4: there are hundreds of protesters who gathered to demonstrate against
- 6:37Speaker 4: this Israel and US war against Iran in tel Aviv
- 6:41Speaker 4: on Saturday. They are against this war, many carrying signs
- 6:44Speaker 4: opposing Israeli militarism and also criticizing the country's Prime Minister,
- 6:49Speaker 4: Benjaminettan Young. The police and secority forces moved to disperse
- 6:53Speaker 4: the crowd shortly after the protestant began sparking clashes, and
- 6:58Speaker 4: Israel's Home Front Commanders of Policy currently mandates a limit
- 7:02Speaker 4: of fifty people at outdoor gatherings as the conflict with
- 7:05Speaker 4: Iran continues. The tel Aviv protests marked the start of
- 7:09Speaker 4: the fifth week of fighting in a war that appeared
- 7:11Speaker 4: at risk of spreading further across the region tamer Square.
- 7:15Speaker 5: The placards of these protesters share the same message, stop
- 7:19Speaker 5: the war with Iran. Several hundred gathered in the center
- 7:23Speaker 5: of Tel Aviv to protest the conflict on Saturday.
- 7:27Speaker 6: We are four weeks into the war that nobody actually
- 7:32Speaker 6: know what is the name of the war, because in
- 7:35Speaker 6: the beginning the set we are against the missiles, against
- 7:38Speaker 6: the nuclear maybe to take down the rejim in Iran.
- 7:42Speaker 6: But after two weeks everybody understood that it's not going
- 7:46Speaker 6: to happen.
- 7:48Speaker 5: These demonstrators hold Benjamin Netanyahu responsible for the war.
- 7:55Speaker 1: So you might be interesting why we chose those clips
- 7:57Speaker 1: well from Indian News and France twenty four. We had
- 8:01Speaker 1: to go overseas because of course the BBC simply not
- 8:05Speaker 1: reporting those demonstrations at all. And if we bring this
- 8:09Speaker 1: up on screen over the weekend, I was searching on
- 8:13Speaker 1: the BBC website for war protests in Tel Aviv. This
- 8:17Speaker 1: is the sort of thing that came up. So we're
- 8:20Speaker 1: going back to June twenty twenty four with the guys
- 8:22Speaker 1: of war. Sixteen hours ago that was back into Saturday,
- 8:28Speaker 1: I would think, now Trump waging war two days ago,
- 8:31Speaker 1: why did US an Israel attack Iran three days ago?
- 8:35Speaker 1: UK petro and diesel prices. So what the BBC is
- 8:39Speaker 1: doing here is clearly supporting the war by its deliberate
- 8:43Speaker 1: omission of any protest in Israeli itself. And I'm going
- 8:48Speaker 1: to say credit to those Israelis who were on the
- 8:50Speaker 1: streets even though quite quite severe clamped down by the
- 8:57Speaker 1: Israeli government limiting the number of peace who can gather
- 9:01Speaker 1: to fifty at any one time. Now, if we really
- 9:04Speaker 1: want to know how public opinion is paying attention to
- 9:08Speaker 1: what King Trump is doing, let's have a look at
- 9:11Speaker 1: this little clip which is an American an American comedy
- 9:16Speaker 1: series called What's the Story?
- 9:21Speaker 7: That's that guy?
- 9:22Speaker 2: Who's that one?
- 9:23Speaker 8: Who'nsay?
- 9:25Speaker 9: Is this any airport in America right now?
- 9:28Speaker 10: And that's gas?
- 9:29Speaker 11: Yeah?
- 9:30Speaker 2: And that guy is fucked.
- 9:33Speaker 1: We're painted into a corner.
- 9:34Speaker 8: And Iran also, I mean it seems like a big story.
- 9:36Speaker 8: You got gas prices, you got the straight off hor moves,
- 9:39Speaker 8: you got the airports, you got all kinds of stuff.
- 9:42Speaker 9: The story is the rhyme fighting back and global economic
- 9:45Speaker 9: catastrophe looming. It seems that President Trump has painted himself
- 9:49Speaker 9: into a bit of a corner with this war. I
- 9:52Speaker 9: guess we're still calling.
- 9:53Speaker 2: It it's an excursion, whatever the hell you want to
- 9:55Speaker 2: call it.
- 9:56Speaker 9: It is definitely a war we have already won. Right
- 10:00Speaker 9: or look, here's Caroline Levin on Wednesday.
- 10:02Speaker 12: Summon it up, President Trump. That is not bluff and
- 10:05Speaker 12: he is prepared to unleash Hell. Any violence beyond this
- 10:08Speaker 12: point will be because the Iranian regime refused to understand
- 10:11Speaker 12: they have already been defeated.
- 10:15Speaker 9: Okay, does not sound like a threat from like bang
- 10:18Speaker 9: from back.
- 10:19Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, little fuels.
- 10:21Speaker 9: To understand you have already been defeated.
- 10:24Speaker 8: Ron State TV says that Trump capitulated there are no
- 10:28Speaker 8: direct or indirect talks taking place with the Trumpet regime.
- 10:32Speaker 8: I'm not thrilled that. I trust Iranian State TV more
- 10:39Speaker 8: than I trust my president.
- 10:40Speaker 3: They want very much to make a deal. We'd like
- 10:43Speaker 3: to make a deal too. If it goes well, we're
- 10:45Speaker 3: gonna end up with settling this. Otherwise, we just keep
- 10:48Speaker 3: bombing our little hearts.
- 10:49Speaker 9: Out now, so the people in a relationship uppere on
- 10:52Speaker 9: the panel, is that an effective negotiating strategy?
- 10:58Speaker 1: So pretty telling piece of video clip because the humor
- 11:04Speaker 1: went on a long time after this particular little clip.
- 11:08Speaker 1: But it's clear people are not only seeing through what
- 11:11Speaker 1: Trump's up to, They're taking the mickey, They're laughing at him.
- 11:15Speaker 1: And I think this is a really really powerful turnaround.
- 11:18Speaker 1: But ben also demonstrations in UK, of.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Course, demonstrations all over the place, lots of protest at
- 11:24Speaker 2: the moment, Brian including the Trump is just becoming more
- 11:27Speaker 2: and more ridiculous. Those clips are just astonishing.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Astonishing ridiculous, but very very dangerous.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, the most powerful man in the world will
- 11:36Speaker 2: could possibly go wrong. Anyway. Let's head back to this
- 11:39Speaker 2: side of the Atlantic and to central London on Saturday,
- 11:45Speaker 2: where there was indeed a fairly big protest which turned
- 11:50Speaker 2: out for the Together Alliance, and this was about combating
- 11:57Speaker 2: the rise of the far right. This is a rambo
- 12:00Speaker 2: coalitions and familiar names there stop the war, CND got
- 12:04Speaker 2: the UN flag flying high above the whole thing. Is
- 12:08Speaker 2: this going to achieve much? I don't think so. And
- 12:11Speaker 2: why is that? Because it's part of a divide and
- 12:14Speaker 2: rural agenda. And I've spoken about this particular visual a
- 12:19Speaker 2: couple of months ago have introduced it to essentially demonstrate
- 12:23Speaker 2: the dividing lines that we're currently being forced into across
- 12:27Speaker 2: the political and cultural discourse, whether you're on the left
- 12:31Speaker 2: or the right. Right being broadly speaking, white, masculine, native,
- 12:37Speaker 2: rural conservative Christian who supports Israel broadly speaking, and this
- 12:42Speaker 2: is crude, by the way, but they have to operate
- 12:44Speaker 2: in a crude fashion because no one fits into these
- 12:47Speaker 2: neat buckets that they want us to fit into. And
- 12:50Speaker 2: on the left you have black, feminine, immigrant, urban progressive
- 12:54Speaker 2: Islamic who supports Palestine. And these warring factions have been
- 12:59Speaker 2: embedded down into to our society over the past several years,
- 13:03Speaker 2: been going on for a lot longer than that, but
- 13:05Speaker 2: it's becoming particularly pronounced, and nowhere less than in the
- 13:10Speaker 2: should I say nowhere more so than in the political system.
- 13:14Speaker 2: So if you think about some of the characters that
- 13:16Speaker 2: we have on our TV screens on a regular basis,
- 13:20Speaker 2: occupying high offices of state, kissed Arma there on the
- 13:23Speaker 2: left hand side, the left wing, versus Nigel Farage on
- 13:28Speaker 2: the right wing the right hand side, we go the
- 13:32Speaker 2: level down in the discourse. We have Zach Polanski, the
- 13:35Speaker 2: new emergent and ascendant leader of the left versus Tommy Robinson,
- 13:42Speaker 2: the supposed folk hero and investigative journalist who is basically
- 13:49Speaker 2: used as a bogeyman for left wing operatives to focus
- 13:55Speaker 2: them and to scare them into action basically, and then
- 13:58Speaker 2: right down to the bottom level. Probably get some upset
- 14:01Speaker 2: people upset about this, but you've got the likes of
- 14:03Speaker 2: Jeremy Corbyn, who is basically just been kicked into the
- 14:08Speaker 2: long grasp, not least by himself over the past twelve
- 14:12Speaker 2: eighteen months with this bizarre Your Party project, and I'm
- 14:16Speaker 2: not even sure they've decided what the name of the
- 14:17Speaker 2: party is going to be yet they seems to be
- 14:19Speaker 2: burning a lot of time and energy on bureaucratic details
- 14:24Speaker 2: and political stuff. And then on the right hand side,
- 14:27Speaker 2: I think a similar thing is being done via Rupert
- 14:30Speaker 2: Low and Restore Britain because actually, if you look politically,
- 14:34Speaker 2: neither Your Party nor Restore Britain figure anywhere in the
- 14:39Speaker 2: most recent polling. So this came out from you Gov
- 14:42Speaker 2: over the weekend. This is national voting intentions and you
- 14:45Speaker 2: can see Reform somehow remarkably still in the lead nationally,
- 14:49Speaker 2: despite Faraj's ongoing attempts to undermine the party that have
- 14:54Speaker 2: been going on pretty much since the outset actually, and
- 14:57Speaker 2: then you can see below that Labor somehow still in
- 15:00Speaker 2: the mix despite Starmer's best attempts to discredit the party.
- 15:04Speaker 2: But the real story here, I think is Green. We
- 15:07Speaker 2: were absolutely in the ascendant, and as I've spoken about previously,
- 15:11Speaker 2: I see them as the chosen vehicle for elite policy
- 15:15Speaker 2: because the establishment is very much backing immigrant, urban Islamic,
- 15:24Speaker 2: not Palestine supporting, but that kind of demographic that exists
- 15:28Speaker 2: in our major cities. Increasingly in our major cities. The
- 15:32Speaker 2: establishment views the future of the country and that is
- 15:37Speaker 2: very much I think playing out in terms of the
- 15:39Speaker 2: level of support that they're getting, the level of coverage
- 15:42Speaker 2: that they're getting, and the other parties, like your Party
- 15:45Speaker 2: in Restore Britain, they only figure down here in the
- 15:47Speaker 2: other section. So the idea that the execut it's a
- 15:51Speaker 2: rounding era, essentially, the idea that Rupert Lowe is going
- 15:55Speaker 2: to roll into Downing Street in twenty twenty nine, a
- 16:00Speaker 2: triumphant new prime Minister of the country. I mean, it's
- 16:03Speaker 2: extremely far fit, let's just put it like that. But
- 16:07Speaker 2: these are the dividing lines that have been driven down
- 16:09Speaker 2: into our society at a political level, and this will continue,
- 16:14Speaker 2: no doubt, certainly in mainstream politics, but also down onto
- 16:17Speaker 2: the street level as well. And we spoke back in
- 16:20Speaker 2: September about the United the Kingdom March. This was Tommy
- 16:23Speaker 2: Robinson's event held in central London on the thirteenth of September.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Estimates of over a million people on the streets. But
- 16:32Speaker 2: within days of this a huge left wing counter protest
- 16:36Speaker 2: had been announced and that is the event that happened
- 16:40Speaker 2: over this last weekend. And we've got a short clip
- 16:43Speaker 2: here showing us some of what happened on the ground.
- 17:07Speaker 1: So, Ben, this is control and manipulation of these demonstrations
- 17:12Speaker 1: in order to get these divide lines that you're talking about.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely yes, and for the messaging extremely clear racism
- 17:21Speaker 2: shut it down. So that's essentially anyone who's nationalist it literally, yeah,
- 17:26Speaker 2: there's any of you who are racist now and the
- 17:28Speaker 2: far right shut it down, you know. And you could
- 17:32Speaker 2: see on the banner at the front there that it
- 17:34Speaker 2: was all about farage and reform and these are the Nazis,
- 17:37Speaker 2: so they're keeping everything at that very kind of top level.
- 17:40Speaker 2: There's no room for nuance here. At all, and labeling.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Everybody gets some label, absolutely, yes, yeah, yeah, because it
- 17:46Speaker 2: becomes tribalized. And then ultimately, I think all Well said
- 17:50Speaker 2: that the purpose of propaganda is to get one bunch
- 17:52Speaker 2: of humans to stop seeing the humanity of another bunch
- 17:56Speaker 2: of humans are completely butchered. That It's not a tyret quote, right,
- 17:59Speaker 2: but it was along those lines. And that's exactly what
- 18:01Speaker 2: we're seeing here. So these aren't people, these are far
- 18:04Speaker 2: right fascists, or these aren't people, these are left wing
- 18:08Speaker 2: Islama files, you know, like whatever whatever the term might be.
- 18:13Speaker 2: And uh, what else do we see over the weekend?
- 18:17Speaker 2: So this remarkable, absolutely remarkable site of Zach Polanski there
- 18:21Speaker 2: dancing with a bunch of male go go dancers and
- 18:25Speaker 2: then handed the span of the new MP for Gordon
- 18:27Speaker 2: and Denton. You can see there just next to him,
- 18:31Speaker 2: and I've got to say, I bet kids Starmer was
- 18:33Speaker 2: really jealous, jealous about this. I'd imagine star While I'd
- 18:37Speaker 2: imagine that he's probably got a few pals who do
- 18:41Speaker 2: the moves like the fella there in the skimpy outfit.
- 18:45Speaker 2: I bet Starmer would have loved this, but not really
- 18:47Speaker 2: very labor party. Unfortunately, you missed. You came at the
- 18:51Speaker 2: wrong time here, I'm afraid to say. So, there's a
- 18:54Speaker 2: lot of this stuff going on, a lot of backing
- 18:56Speaker 2: from musicians and the whole kind of lovely crowd that
- 18:59Speaker 2: you might expect, and a fairly reasonable turnout. So actually
- 19:03Speaker 2: they only got half a million people. They're saying half
- 19:06Speaker 2: a million. They're claiming half a million, and considering the
- 19:09Speaker 2: fact that this has been Indie offering for six months,
- 19:14Speaker 2: they've had six months run at this, and they've had
- 19:16Speaker 2: full backing from all of the organizations you can see.
- 19:18Speaker 2: They're the unions celebrities. This is essentially the establishment's official
- 19:25Speaker 2: countermarks to the awful far right. I don't think that
- 19:30Speaker 2: they pulled a particularly big crowd, to be honest with you. Now,
- 19:35Speaker 2: the organizations involved, as we talked about, we've got a
- 19:38Speaker 2: few here, Stop the War Coalition, the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament,
- 19:41Speaker 2: a lot of sort of nineteen eighty throwback organizations that
- 19:44Speaker 2: you can see here. They're really telling thing about this
- 19:47Speaker 2: still image for me is the fact that that UN
- 19:49Speaker 2: flag is right at the top, and so the UN
- 19:52Speaker 2: they view as the absolute pinnacle that should be driving
- 19:57Speaker 2: policy internationally. And we'll talk more that as we go
- 20:00Speaker 2: through the show. But we can also see here that
- 20:03Speaker 2: this is absolutely a Palestine aligned march, and for that
- 20:11Speaker 2: very reason, there were certain people in London who were
- 20:14Speaker 2: feeling very threatened and very left out by all of this.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Let's have a little listen to Keith Black, the chair
- 20:19Speaker 2: of the Jewish Leadership Council, talking to gb News.
- 20:24Speaker 9: What do you think this has to say about this
- 20:27Speaker 9: particular march, So they don't seem all that open towards
- 20:31Speaker 9: Jewish groups.
- 20:33Speaker 11: Yeah, well it's extraordinary, isn't it. The Together Alliance? Well,
- 20:38Speaker 11: who is in this Together Alliance? I certainly haven't had
- 20:40Speaker 11: a call to join it. Nobody's been on the phone
- 20:43Speaker 11: to move to say please come along. And I think
- 20:46Speaker 11: we know why that is because it's not a Together Alliance.
- 20:49Speaker 11: It billed as an anti far right alliance, but that's
- 20:53Speaker 11: just a disguise, that's a cloak. This is a Islamic
- 20:58Speaker 11: I'm afraid, and a left wing march that is against
- 21:03Speaker 11: Jewish life. And we've seen this for two and a
- 21:06Speaker 11: half years now, regular protests through our streets, screaming Jew hatred,
- 21:15Speaker 11: talking about globalizing, the Interfada, calling for the extinction of Israel,
- 21:22Speaker 11: so there's no real wonder why they haven't called us.
- 21:27Speaker 13: Now, obviously there's one group of people that have suffered
- 21:30Speaker 13: most at the hands of the far right throughout history,
- 21:34Speaker 13: and that group is obviously Jews.
- 21:37Speaker 14: So you would have thought the first people anyone organizing
- 21:40Speaker 14: a march against the far right would call is Jewish organizations.
- 21:46Speaker 11: Yes, well, we've been involved in those battles for decades
- 21:50Speaker 11: against the far right, and we've fought them back famously
- 21:54Speaker 11: at Cable Street in the thirties and beyond. Those battles
- 21:59Speaker 11: have been one and been thought. But this isn't about
- 22:02Speaker 11: really the far right. This is a much broader coalition
- 22:08Speaker 11: of people who have got a much deeper agenda, I'm afraid,
- 22:12Speaker 11: and it's very demoralizing for Jewish people when we see
- 22:17Speaker 11: this happening, and in particularly we're going to see this alliance,
- 22:20Speaker 11: this march take place really close to one of our
- 22:24Speaker 11: main synagogues in the center of London, and it is
- 22:28Speaker 11: likely that Jews will not be able to pray in
- 22:31Speaker 11: that synagogue on Tomorrow morning because there will just be
- 22:36Speaker 11: too much intimidation.
- 22:40Speaker 2: What do you hate?
- 22:42Speaker 1: It's quite incredible. Bear in my mind goes back to
- 22:45Speaker 1: the really really large Palestine demonstration. Mike Robinson myself went
- 22:50Speaker 1: up to.
- 22:50Speaker 2: London and that's the first time I met you.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Indeed, that was about two and a half thousand people
- 22:56Speaker 1: in Trafalgar Square, all for Palestine, many many Muslims, and
- 23:04Speaker 1: in the middle, in the middle of Trafalgar Square was
- 23:09Speaker 1: a group of Jewish people, Jews from Jews for Peace.
- 23:14Speaker 1: And when I said to them, do you feel threatened?
- 23:16Speaker 1: They said no, everybody around us has been lovely, And
- 23:20Speaker 1: we then had a discussion with them. We took some
- 23:23Speaker 1: audio surrounded by the people that this man would have
- 23:28Speaker 1: us believe or out to kill Jews. It's complete nonsense.
- 23:33Speaker 1: But the narrative and gb News here helping this twisted
- 23:37Speaker 1: narrative to come across ye, right, amazing.
- 23:40Speaker 2: I mean he could I'm sure that he didn't write
- 23:43Speaker 2: those questions, but if he had written the questions they could.
- 23:46Speaker 2: It couldn't have been any better, really, could they? And
- 23:48Speaker 2: also there were loads of Jews on the march, right,
- 23:51Speaker 2: so this was actually from the official social media count
- 23:56Speaker 2: of the Together March. And also there's a life of
- 23:58Speaker 2: Jewish organizations organizing this thing. So I'm afraid mister Black
- 24:03Speaker 2: from the Jewish Leadership Council. You need to extend your
- 24:06Speaker 2: networks into the Jewish community a little bit more effectively
- 24:09Speaker 2: than you have been doing. Because I can skip down
- 24:11Speaker 2: here a little bit. Well, first of all, we come
- 24:13Speaker 2: to a load of love. Is Lenny Henry, Sir Lennie Henry.
- 24:17Speaker 2: He's suffered because of racism, hasn't they? Sir Lenni Henry,
- 24:20Speaker 2: the multi millionaire. He's been on the BBC for my
- 24:23Speaker 2: entire life, must have been really difficult. Who else will
- 24:27Speaker 2: we got? There's a bunch of stuff messaging about how
- 24:30Speaker 2: compassionate and wonderful everyone behind this thing is. But then
- 24:33Speaker 2: if we come down to here and look at the
- 24:36Speaker 2: organizations involved, the one that really caught my eye is
- 24:38Speaker 2: this one. It's an organization called Choose Love. And I
- 24:43Speaker 2: came across this because of some reporting by Vanessa Bilian
- 24:46Speaker 2: David Miller recently for Palistine d Classified, which basically highlights
- 24:50Speaker 2: the fact that Chew's Love is working with Zionist organizations
- 24:57Speaker 2: in Israel. It's helped to coordinate regime regime change operations
- 25:03Speaker 2: in Syria via the White Helmets, who we've reported on
- 25:05Speaker 2: extensive extensively previously over the years, going back to about
- 25:10Speaker 2: twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, if I remember correctly, and choose
- 25:15Speaker 2: Love receives funding from Open Societies Foundation, the New Israel Fund,
- 25:22Speaker 2: and organizations like the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, which is quite
- 25:28Speaker 2: notoriously essentially a CIA slash fund, is passing money through.
- 25:32Speaker 2: So all of these organizations are Zionist. Chees Love is
- 25:35Speaker 2: basically aligned to and back by Zionist organizations. They're helping
- 25:38Speaker 2: to coordinate this march, So it would seem that not
- 25:41Speaker 2: only a Jew safety go on the march, there's also
- 25:43Speaker 2: people of that background who helping to coordinate it and
- 25:48Speaker 2: also develop a lot of the key messaging because that
- 25:50Speaker 2: chews Love things absolutely everywhere, right. And we've talked about
- 25:54Speaker 2: this a lot previously, this divide and rule, how he
- 25:57Speaker 2: gets pushed down into society through the media, through our culture,
- 26:02Speaker 2: and this is just another example of the same thing
- 26:05Speaker 2: happening again. I spoke probably about eighteen months, maybe even
- 26:09Speaker 2: two years ago about George Soros's role in helping to
- 26:13Speaker 2: create Paul Marshall from GBN News, especially how Paul Marshall
- 26:17Speaker 2: made a bunch of his money originally through his hedge front.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Marshall Waste is because George Soros gave him twenty five
- 26:23Speaker 2: million dollars to become a money manager for him. So
- 26:28Speaker 2: essentially he has created Marshall and GBN News in that
- 26:31Speaker 2: entire network, including the short clip there that we just
- 26:35Speaker 2: watched with the gentleman from the Jewish Leadership Council. Well
- 26:39Speaker 2: at the same time putting money via Open Society foundations
- 26:42Speaker 2: into left wing organizations like Jews Love, which is people
- 26:46Speaker 2: like miss Anna Harriman on its board, which then creates
- 26:50Speaker 2: this chaos in society because you have these two polar
- 26:56Speaker 2: opposites that are positioned against each other, have a political
- 27:03Speaker 2: apparatus around them, have street game through these protests and
- 27:07Speaker 2: things that are not even the coordinated stuff like these
- 27:11Speaker 2: ongoing protests that are happening around the country on a
- 27:14Speaker 2: weekly basis, and that drives us into a state of
- 27:19Speaker 2: chaos and makes it easier to control, and it's all
- 27:21Speaker 2: coordinated at the very top level. We can get that
- 27:23Speaker 2: back on screen by people like George Soros, And what
- 27:26Speaker 2: was saying, it's just georgs Soros. I'm just pointing out
- 27:28Speaker 2: that in this instance that this is absolutely applicable. Another
- 27:33Speaker 2: example of this, without wanting to label the point too much.
- 27:35Speaker 2: This is essentially what we're seeing here play out. Is
- 27:37Speaker 2: it something else that I reported on back in twenty
- 27:40Speaker 2: twenty four, So this was eighteen months ago in October
- 27:42Speaker 2: twenty four. We'll provide links you can go and look
- 27:44Speaker 2: at these reports from back then. And this was Daniel
- 27:47Speaker 2: Sachs speaking at a Global Progress action in Canada. SAX
- 27:52Speaker 2: is the Open Society Foundation investment chief, so he actually
- 27:55Speaker 2: directs funding four open societies for the Soros family, and
- 27:59Speaker 2: he's talking about these two competing energy fields, a tug
- 28:02Speaker 2: of war between two main drivers of political engagement. One
- 28:07Speaker 2: is the rising support of authoritarianism what we could think
- 28:10Speaker 2: of as the right, and the other is the mobilization
- 28:13Speaker 2: of young voters, especially young women, in protection of the
- 28:16Speaker 2: fundamental values of democracy, and we can think about that
- 28:18Speaker 2: as left. And this has been constructed, and he was
- 28:22Speaker 2: talking about this for quite some time before that speech,
- 28:24Speaker 2: this idea that there's an ideology gap opening up between
- 28:27Speaker 2: young men and women in countries across the world. But
- 28:30Speaker 2: the most important thing about this to understand is that
- 28:33Speaker 2: it's deliberate. This has been constructed. And I'll put another
- 28:37Speaker 2: link to this substack article especially points out the increase
- 28:43Speaker 2: in divisive terminology coming from titles like The New York
- 28:47Speaker 2: Times and The Washington Post overpred about ten and fifty years.
- 28:50Speaker 2: So this increase in the use of terms like patriarchy,
- 28:53Speaker 2: gender discrimination, sexist, sexism, white supremacy, it's been a huge
- 28:57Speaker 2: uptick those in since twenty which, ultimately I believe is
- 29:02Speaker 2: this smoking gun to prove that this whole thing is
- 29:04Speaker 2: essentially a manufactured crisis. That's what we're looking out here
- 29:09Speaker 2: playing out on the streets of the UK. And what's
- 29:11Speaker 2: that leading us towards. So well, we've got the organizations
- 29:16Speaker 2: and the events happening on the right hand side, so
- 29:19Speaker 2: Unite the Kingdom and all the other political figures I
- 29:21Speaker 2: talked about at the start of the report. You've got
- 29:23Speaker 2: the left wing on the left hand side, Together Alliance
- 29:25Speaker 2: and all the people associated with that. And then you've
- 29:28Speaker 2: also got in the midst of this this thing which
- 29:30Speaker 2: I spoke about about a month ago, which is the
- 29:32Speaker 2: Together Coalition founded in twenty nineteen by Justin Welby, former
- 29:39Speaker 2: Archbishop of Canterbury, had to resign because he was protecting pedophiles,
- 29:42Speaker 2: and Brendan Cox, who's a World Economic Forum young global
- 29:45Speaker 2: leader and that's overseen by this thing and the Independent
- 29:48Speaker 2: Commission on Community and Cohesion, which itself is co chaired
- 29:51Speaker 2: by Sadji Javid aka Savage jab Ed, who is the
- 29:55Speaker 2: Health Minister, one of them during COVID, and John Cruddis, who,
- 29:58Speaker 2: amongst other things I found out over the we again,
- 30:00Speaker 2: was formerly a director of Home Not Hate Indeed. Yeah,
- 30:05Speaker 2: so their strings go all the way up and this
- 30:07Speaker 2: chaos is going to drive us into some kind of
- 30:10Speaker 2: event something that they've got cooking around this together coalition
- 30:13Speaker 2: and the Independent Commission on Community and Cohesion, and it's
- 30:18Speaker 2: going to be a hot summer. I think we can
- 30:20Speaker 2: put it like that.
- 30:21Speaker 1: And of course people immediately say, well, if this is
- 30:23Speaker 1: what is happening, this is what is being done, what
- 30:27Speaker 1: do we do about it? And the simple answer to
- 30:30Speaker 1: that is one exposed as we are doing at the moment.
- 30:34Speaker 1: These organizations have got to be challenged everywhere as to
- 30:38Speaker 1: what they're really standing for and what they're trying to
- 30:40Speaker 1: achieve by divide and rule, and people have got to
- 30:44Speaker 1: speak to each other. So don't take the label and
- 30:47Speaker 1: the banner in the street, go up, approach speak to
- 30:50Speaker 1: other people, because it's the link between humanity, which actually
- 30:55Speaker 1: pulls down what these people are trying to do. We'll
- 30:58Speaker 1: discuss this more in extra but this is a key point.
- 31:02Speaker 1: So at the moment, every headline is about economic disaster,
- 31:07Speaker 1: and of course a lot of this comes directly back
- 31:09Speaker 1: to what's happening with the strangulation of oil in the
- 31:13Speaker 1: Golf and what happens in the Straits and or most
- 31:18Speaker 1: is going to have a huge impact on economic policy
- 31:24Speaker 1: and prices here in UK. Paying one eighty five aleita
- 31:30Speaker 1: for diesel at the pumps over the weekend, that's going
- 31:34Speaker 1: to increase manufacturing costs go up. So we've got to
- 31:38Speaker 1: stay focused also on what's happening in the golf and
- 31:41Speaker 1: who is actually driving the war. So let's have a
- 31:45Speaker 1: little listen to near the cat, the Israeli Minister for
- 31:51Speaker 1: the Economy speaking, he was being interviewed by the BBC.
- 31:57Speaker 13: You've said the US and Israel are aligned on this war?
- 32:00Speaker 13: Are you aligned on this proposal?
- 32:03Speaker 7: You're gonna you know, let's leave it vague, but one thing,
- 32:07Speaker 7: it's very very clear the Americans and Israelis Prime Minister
- 32:11Speaker 7: Nathaniel and President Trump are aligned with accomplishing those goals.
- 32:16Speaker 13: So Israel had a hand in drawing up this deal.
- 32:23Speaker 13: So from what you've said, you know that you're very
- 32:26Speaker 13: unlikely to get this deal from Iran.
- 32:29Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I probably agree with you.
- 32:30Speaker 13: Iran seems to be gaining some leverage in this war.
- 32:34Speaker 7: I think it's exactly the opposite. I think the world
- 32:36Speaker 7: is recognizing who the bully is, who the threat is.
- 32:40Speaker 13: So if Iran doesn't have any leverage, why did President
- 32:44Speaker 13: Trump back away from his ultimatum on the straight of Hormos.
- 32:48Speaker 7: Look, President Trump is a good negotiator, he knows how
- 32:51Speaker 7: to negotiate. He's a businessman. Sew's NATANIAO and give them
- 32:55Speaker 7: that leeway to get those objectives.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Done. Interview was against the backdrop of Trump saying that
- 33:04Speaker 1: he was going to seize carg Island, and the smirk
- 33:07Speaker 1: from that gentleman was just incredible, because obviously Israel is
- 33:13Speaker 1: key to ramping up what the Americans do under Trump,
- 33:18Speaker 1: and it appears to be more and more the case
- 33:20Speaker 1: that is Israel in control. The smirk to me said
- 33:24Speaker 1: it all. He knew absolutely that Israel is not going
- 33:27Speaker 1: to calm the situation down. They want the war and
- 33:31Speaker 1: they want America to pay for it. Let's look at
- 33:34Speaker 1: BBC reporting here. So this was the headline earlier this morning.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Trump said he's considering seizing Iran's Carg Island, but a
- 33:43Speaker 1: deal could be made very quickly. So the blackmail is
- 33:47Speaker 1: to the Iranians that if you don't play the game,
- 33:51Speaker 1: we are going to take control of Carg Island. And
- 33:54Speaker 1: of course it's through Carg Island that Iran exports its oil,
- 34:00Speaker 1: makes its money. But there's a lot that the BBC
- 34:03Speaker 1: doesn't share here. So let's get into the background, and
- 34:07Speaker 1: we need to go to this man. General. You have Gallant,
- 34:12Speaker 1: former Defense Minister of Israel, and in his blog he
- 34:16Speaker 1: says how to finish the job in Iran, So let's
- 34:20Speaker 1: have a look at this. The key part is that
- 34:24Speaker 1: he's saying, we do that by seizing and squeezing Around's
- 34:28Speaker 1: choke point, and that is Carg Island. So this is
- 34:31Speaker 1: some of the detail. When you face this level of
- 34:33Speaker 1: operational complexity, you do not solve it by chasing every
- 34:37Speaker 1: weapon system. You change the enemy's calculation. You must take
- 34:41Speaker 1: from Iran something it cannot afford to lose. The first
- 34:46Speaker 1: and most obvious target that meets that standard is Carg Island.
- 34:52Speaker 1: The main terminal for close to ninety percent of Iran's
- 34:56Speaker 1: crude oil exports. It's the economic backbone of the region,
- 35:00Speaker 1: also critically the primary source of hard currency revenues for
- 35:03Speaker 1: the military and security services, which control and sell a
- 35:07Speaker 1: significant share of those exports. So this is the twist
- 35:11Speaker 1: of the knife that apparently is Iran only sells oil
- 35:15Speaker 1: to pay for military and the security services. Absolute nonsense,
- 35:19Speaker 1: but this is the way the man thinks. And if
- 35:22Speaker 1: we go on here, disrupting energy operations on Cargo Island
- 35:26Speaker 1: is regarded by analysts as a doomsday scenario for Iran's economy,
- 35:30Speaker 1: with far reaching consequences. Economic pressure on this scale would
- 35:35Speaker 1: dramatically increase the likelihood of popular unrest. Iran's population has
- 35:40Speaker 1: repeatedly demonstrated its willingness to take to the streets, and
- 35:44Speaker 1: the demonstrations of January twenty twenty six were one of
- 35:48Speaker 1: the most significant since the nineteen seventy nine revolution. So
- 35:52Speaker 1: Israel absolutely after regime change here they do not want peace,
- 35:59Speaker 1: even with the economic chaos it's causing for the rest
- 36:02Speaker 1: of the world. And here he says something interesting. Yes,
- 36:05Speaker 1: there are risks. Any operation to seize carg would require
- 36:09Speaker 1: thousands of troops, sustained air and naval support, and detailed intelligence,
- 36:14Speaker 1: and it will carry a real and expected cost in
- 36:17Speaker 1: human life. Iran would also target every reachable energy facility
- 36:22Speaker 1: across the Gulf, a campaign already underway. And of course,
- 36:26Speaker 1: what this man does not say is that the lives
- 36:29Speaker 1: lost will be US Marines, they will be American lives,
- 36:33Speaker 1: and they will not be IDF forces. So unbelievably cynical.
- 36:39Speaker 1: But here we see and we can understand the smirk
- 36:42Speaker 1: of the Israeli Minister of Economy because it's clearly well
- 36:47Speaker 1: known that the drive for this taking of Cargo Island
- 36:52Speaker 1: is coming from within Israel and America, and the US
- 36:55Speaker 1: Marines are just going to be the toys to carry
- 36:59Speaker 1: it out. It's horrific stuff here, Ben, And I'll just
- 37:03Speaker 1: remind people that it takes ourt to come up and
- 37:06Speaker 1: remind people that back in the day, the US was
- 37:12Speaker 1: working directly with terrorists in Syria on Israel's behalf. Washington
- 37:18Speaker 1: colluded without Kaeda and isis in Syria to top or
- 37:23Speaker 1: basha are Sad Joe Kent has said, has revealed. So
- 37:28Speaker 1: this is very heavy stuff, and I'll just end here
- 37:31Speaker 1: by saying that when you get into detail about what
- 37:35Speaker 1: actually took place on the USS Gerald R Ford, the
- 37:40Speaker 1: huge American aircraft carrier, had this headline highlights that the
- 37:45Speaker 1: laundry fire was so bad the Navy had to strip
- 37:49Speaker 1: a thousand mattresses from America's next aircraft carrier to replace them.
- 37:54Speaker 1: If you don't understand the significance of this, or just
- 37:57Speaker 1: bring in a bit more detail, the reality was one
- 38:00Speaker 1: sailor injured, are now stable, but two hundred smoke inhalation casualties,
- 38:07Speaker 1: and then we've got the thousand mattresses. And this detailed
- 38:11Speaker 1: report from nineteen forty five, as the website's called, is
- 38:15Speaker 1: also talking about major damage control effort. So this was
- 38:20Speaker 1: a substantial fire on board the ship, and smoke damage
- 38:25Speaker 1: in the confined spaces of a warship immensely dangerous not
- 38:29Speaker 1: only to individuals, to people, but also to delicate equipment
- 38:35Speaker 1: because the smoke can cause huge damage to computer based systems,
- 38:41Speaker 1: aside from its carcinogenic effects on the sailors themselves. So,
- 38:46Speaker 1: without doubt, things not going well for the Americans, and
- 38:50Speaker 1: this was a big blow to the Gerald R four,
- 38:55Speaker 1: notwithstanding it was not an Iranian attack. Well, let's move
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- 40:27Speaker 2: That's my mum's birthday as well. She'll be happy about that.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Well, there you are, okay. Now, Coming up tonight at
- 40:34Speaker 1: seven pm, we've got jerm Warfare Edition is China Expansionist.
- 40:40Speaker 1: Tonight at nine pm, we've got Carl Zar Iran. It's
- 40:44Speaker 1: decolonizing West Asia and the US Empire is crumbling in
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- 40:53Speaker 1: out tomorrow at one pm we've got Mike Robinson's interview
- 40:58Speaker 1: here with Cliff Kirakov, the latest crusade Christian Zionism, the
- 41:05Speaker 1: Israel lobby and the war on Iran. So that's quite
- 41:10Speaker 1: a package of information coming out. Ben and I think
- 41:13Speaker 1: there are still many people who believe that UK column
- 41:17Speaker 1: is a much much bigger team than it really is.
- 41:21Speaker 1: So it is a credit to everybody who's part of
- 41:24Speaker 1: that team. At the moment. There's so much information comes out,
- 41:28Speaker 1: but please share it and spread the word. That's the
- 41:32Speaker 1: excuse me, the key point of getting the information out there.
- 41:37Speaker 1: Now let's turn to the subject to veterans. And this
- 41:41Speaker 1: is one of interest to me because yes, I served,
- 41:45Speaker 1: as they say, for twenty one years in the Royal Navy.
- 41:48Speaker 1: And of course we've seen particularly the labor government. Well
- 41:53Speaker 1: what's it been doing creeping up to the veterans? I think?
- 41:57Speaker 1: But is there veterans strategies, something which is genuinely compassionate
- 42:03Speaker 1: concerning the veterans, or is there another political agenda. Well
- 42:08Speaker 1: before we just answer that question, let's have a look
- 42:11Speaker 1: at their little promo video, which I have to say
- 42:16Speaker 1: did make me WinCE.
- 42:19Speaker 15: If you've served this country, you deserve support that works
- 42:22Speaker 15: for you. That's why I'm so pleased to announce the
- 42:24Speaker 15: first network of government funded veterans centers across the UK.
- 42:29Speaker 15: This is part of our fifty million pound Valor program
- 42:32Speaker 15: designed to make it easier for our veterans to get
- 42:34Speaker 15: the care and support they need. We're investing over thirteen
- 42:38Speaker 15: million pounds into fourteen existing veterans centers across the UK,
- 42:42Speaker 15: giving them up to one million pounds each. They'll provide
- 42:46Speaker 15: in person support for veterans in their area, connecting people
- 42:49Speaker 15: with specialist support across health, housing, employment and more. Valo
- 42:54Speaker 15: has got several parts recognized centers like these where veterans
- 42:57Speaker 15: can access multiple services in one place, and they'll also
- 43:01Speaker 15: be sport available online and through dedicated case managers for.
- 43:04Speaker 13: Those who can't get to a center.
- 43:06Speaker 15: VALOR Field officers will be on the ground building real
- 43:09Speaker 15: connections between local charities, councils and other service providers, and
- 43:14Speaker 15: VALOR HQ based in the Office for Veterans Affairs will
- 43:17Speaker 15: work to bring the whole system together. VALA isn't about
- 43:21Speaker 15: replacing the incredible work that charities, councils and other services
- 43:24Speaker 15: already do. It's about making sure that work is joined
- 43:27Speaker 15: up and feeds into what we're doing at a national level.
- 43:31Speaker 15: This is part of our ten year Veterans strategy. This
- 43:34Speaker 15: is about renewing the contract with those who've served, investing
- 43:37Speaker 15: in them and giving them the tools they need to thrive.
- 43:47Speaker 1: So there we are VALOR. This didn't fill me with enthusiasm,
- 43:51Speaker 1: but I was curious as to why the government is
- 43:53Speaker 1: putting so much effort into the veterans. This is part
- 43:57Speaker 1: of the strategy dot org.
- 44:00Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
- 44:00Speaker 1: The web page from gov dot UK so lots of
- 44:04Speaker 1: emotive articles all about the veterans and the Office for
- 44:08Speaker 1: Veterans Affairs. But in their document there was this graphic
- 44:13Speaker 1: that caught my attention. I immediately thought, of you, Ben,
- 44:17Speaker 1: we've got a pyramid here, ministerial oversight at the top.
- 44:22Speaker 1: The next layer is UK cross government coordination, so this
- 44:25Speaker 1: is embedded across government, and then it's got a cross
- 44:30Speaker 1: sector coordinated delivery. So I just thought to myself, we've
- 44:34Speaker 1: got a blatant pyramid of power control. This is a
- 44:38Speaker 1: classic pyramid structure. And to answer the question for our
- 44:42Speaker 1: viewers today why the government is so keen on the veterans,
- 44:46Speaker 1: the simple answer is because there are some two hundred
- 44:49Speaker 1: million and the government must get control of them.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Two million.
- 44:55Speaker 1: Sorry what did I say?
- 44:56Speaker 3: Million?
- 44:57Speaker 1: Well, what a shame there isn't thank you for that
- 45:01Speaker 1: little slip. Then there are some two million veterans in UK.
- 45:05Speaker 1: The government must get control of them to destroy their
- 45:09Speaker 1: potentially decisive nationalist vote. And by using the word nationalist,
- 45:14Speaker 1: I'm not saying extreme right wing because overwhelmingly these people aren't.
- 45:19Speaker 1: But they are a cohesive group of people that if
- 45:22Speaker 1: they were to act together to take the lid off
- 45:25Speaker 1: what's being done as we're describing in this news, they
- 45:29Speaker 1: would be a force to reckon with so absolutely. So
- 45:34Speaker 1: what's happening is the government is getting amongst them in
- 45:38Speaker 1: order to control them and make sure they're corralled into
- 45:41Speaker 1: an appropriate direction. Now, if we had a bit of
- 45:45Speaker 1: linkage with your segment earlier in the News, Ben where
- 45:49Speaker 1: you were talking about Jeremy Corbyn, let's just have a
- 45:52Speaker 1: little listen to this interview with Jeremy Corbin where he
- 45:57Speaker 1: says some extremely interesting things.
- 46:00Speaker 10: Listen, so, Bernie Sanders was very close to the presidency. You,
- 46:05Speaker 10: of course, we know what happened. You were very close
- 46:08Speaker 10: to being Prime Minister. It does seem like there is
- 46:11Speaker 10: limitations within the confines of the Democratic Party, obviously the
- 46:14Speaker 10: Labor Party. It's amazing that you left and that you
- 46:17Speaker 10: started your own left party. We see what the Democratic
- 46:20Speaker 10: Party is doing. Tomandani in New York, what is your
- 46:24Speaker 10: message to people outside of electoralism. Of course it's important,
- 46:27Speaker 10: but clearly not the only path.
- 46:31Speaker 14: Politics comes from lots of things, but basically it comes
- 46:35Speaker 14: from the power of community and the power of organization
- 46:38Speaker 14: of workers in their own communities. And what I was
- 46:42Speaker 14: trying to do as leaders the Labor Party was to
- 46:46Speaker 14: turn the Labor Party into a community organizing machine, and
- 46:50Speaker 14: I appointed community organizers and started down that road. It
- 46:54Speaker 14: was the greatest opposition I got to anything within the
- 46:58Speaker 14: Labor Party hierarchy community organizing, because they felt threatened by it.
- 47:03Speaker 14: The other greatest opposition I got from the establishment was
- 47:08Speaker 14: essentially my world and global view, because what they did
- 47:13Speaker 14: not want was somebody like me on the UN Security
- 47:18Speaker 14: Council expressing my view that the occupation of Palestine has
- 47:24Speaker 14: to end, for example, that nuclear weapons are an abomination
- 47:29Speaker 14: of the highest possible order, and if we want to
- 47:32Speaker 14: live in a peaceful world, we should stop spending two
- 47:35Speaker 14: and a half trillion dollars a year on arms and
- 47:38Speaker 14: start converting over to a different process.
- 47:44Speaker 1: Well, I hope our viewers and listeners were actually listening
- 47:48Speaker 1: carefully to what Jeremy Corbyn said, because he really gave
- 47:54Speaker 1: some significant information. He was trying to get in amongst
- 47:58Speaker 1: the community. He was to get in amongst the workers
- 48:03Speaker 1: in order to get his labor policies embedded in society,
- 48:08Speaker 1: and he was going to use community organizers to do that.
- 48:12Speaker 1: Then he says, well, the hierarchy of the party didn't
- 48:17Speaker 1: like that, but of course they would have liked it
- 48:20Speaker 1: if they were in control of the agenda that was
- 48:23Speaker 1: going to be injected into the community layers, and that
- 48:27Speaker 1: was the key problem. Plus he was against war, and
- 48:31Speaker 1: as we can see, excuse me from today's news, you
- 48:35Speaker 1: have to be pro war in order to be part
- 48:38Speaker 1: of the global elite, because that's how their political agenda operates.
- 48:43Speaker 1: So I found it fascinating ben to hear what he
- 48:47Speaker 1: said then, and I also remembered, of course that that
- 48:51Speaker 1: was labor. But we had previously David Cameron with big Society.
- 48:56Speaker 2: Doing his community organizing things using communist principles. People find
- 49:00Speaker 2: really difficult to understand now. I think that I think
- 49:03Speaker 2: what that whole thing revealed is that Corbyn is actually
- 49:06Speaker 2: fundamentally a decent guy, I think, but naive and and
- 49:13Speaker 2: actually he the direction of travel that he's going down.
- 49:18Speaker 2: He used the term his global worldview, this kind of
- 49:20Speaker 2: internationalist thing, this drive towards a single global superstate coordinated
- 49:26Speaker 2: out of the UN. He's just as much globalism as
- 49:29Speaker 2: the World Economic Forum, stitching up all international economic activity
- 49:35Speaker 2: and industrial output into a tiny group of multinationals, basically
- 49:39Speaker 2: just the other side of the coin. And what I've noticed,
- 49:44Speaker 2: particularly over the past month or two is these left
- 49:48Speaker 2: wing voices are being pushed more and more by the
- 49:51Speaker 2: establishment and into the mainstream like Corbyn and plan skis
- 49:54Speaker 2: that actually they're not operating at a national level. They
- 49:57Speaker 2: don't think at a national level, they don't coordinate national level.
- 50:00Speaker 2: They are working internationally. And I don't think that most
- 50:04Speaker 2: people in the UK, where we're on the left or
- 50:07Speaker 2: the right, really understand the extent to which that is
- 50:10Speaker 2: the case. So over the weekend I bought a newspaper.
- 50:15Speaker 2: Do you remember those? I do, yes, And this one.
- 50:18Speaker 1: Used to be a very good one called the UK Column.
- 50:20Speaker 2: Actually right, okay, I've heard of that. Yeah, maybe they'll
- 50:24Speaker 2: fire it up again at some point, who knows. But anyway,
- 50:26Speaker 2: I bought this one because it was the one available,
- 50:28Speaker 2: and it is the Morning Star, and it is very socialist,
- 50:31Speaker 2: probably communists, or they don't like to use that word.
- 50:34Speaker 2: And they talk about on the front ear this new
- 50:36Speaker 2: alliance marching in London today which avows unity against the
- 50:40Speaker 2: far right hatred, which is what we talked about in
- 50:42Speaker 2: the report earlier, and it's talking about that that exact march.
- 50:47Speaker 2: That's what they're referring to in this alliance, which is
- 50:50Speaker 2: this lot most notably in this image and this is
- 50:53Speaker 2: from the video I showed in the protest earlier, Colbyn
- 50:56Speaker 2: and Polanski and various associated others. But these who are
- 51:00Speaker 2: absolutely front and center in this new coalition that is
- 51:03Speaker 2: forming against the far right, and it is a global coalition, right,
- 51:07Speaker 2: these two, they're having a bit of a bromance at
- 51:09Speaker 2: the moment, Polanski and Corbin standing in solidarity with each other,
- 51:15Speaker 2: fellow travelers on the journey towards socialist utopias in all
- 51:20Speaker 2: terms that you know, get banded around, and they've been
- 51:23Speaker 2: hanging around a lot on the March, but also at
- 51:25Speaker 2: this event which happened a couple of weeks ago at
- 51:27Speaker 2: the Troxy in East London, which was hosted by Yannis Arrifacis.
- 51:33Speaker 2: You can see on the left hand side there, who
- 51:35Speaker 2: was actually on the News UK column News we used
- 51:38Speaker 2: a clip I think Basil used a clip of him
- 51:40Speaker 2: talking about Palentier and he's absolutely on the money about
- 51:43Speaker 2: certain issues. So on Palenteer, I believe that Fara Facus
- 51:46Speaker 2: and I would probably be very well aligned, and he's
- 51:50Speaker 2: leading this thing, this talk here. Resistance is existence with Corbyn,
- 51:55Speaker 2: Polanski and Grace Blakeley, who is a liberal progressive commentation,
- 52:00Speaker 2: and it's all been done under the auspices of this
- 52:03Speaker 2: thing DM twenty five, which is a pan European political
- 52:08Speaker 2: party established in twenty sixteen by Yannis faru Frakis. And
- 52:13Speaker 2: to cut a long story short, because there's a lot
- 52:16Speaker 2: about this and it's been around for over ten years now,
- 52:19Speaker 2: Essentially this is a neo Marxist type organization. They talk
- 52:23Speaker 2: about this idea of democratization. Europe will be democratized once
- 52:26Speaker 2: the oligarchy is overthrown. So we're going to tear down
- 52:30Speaker 2: the oligarchy, which essentially is capitalism, and replace it with
- 52:33Speaker 2: something that is democratized, that is essentially communism, communitarianism, this
- 52:39Speaker 2: whole thing that's been progressed by the liberal left of
- 52:41Speaker 2: the moment, and they are very active, very busy, quite
- 52:47Speaker 2: over bose, as you'd expect from a bunch of lefties.
- 52:50Speaker 2: They've got a cultural policy which includes a separate organization
- 52:54Speaker 2: called Meta CPC the Culture of Post Capitalism, where they've
- 53:00Speaker 2: promoting culture which they describe as critical and challenging. So
- 53:04Speaker 2: this is this kind of cultural Marxism idea, the idea
- 53:07Speaker 2: that culture should be critical and challenging. It shouldn't be
- 53:12Speaker 2: creative and constructive for example, you know, it has to
- 53:17Speaker 2: tear things down, not build things up. That's really an
- 53:20Speaker 2: important part of this. And they've also got a security
- 53:24Speaker 2: policy which essentially amounts to global peace being enforced by
- 53:28Speaker 2: the United Nations, the UN, which is controlled by the oligarchy.
- 53:35Speaker 2: And this is the problem with a lot of the
- 53:37Speaker 2: policies that they're putting across here. In their economic policy,
- 53:40Speaker 2: they talk about having a universal basic income and having
- 53:44Speaker 2: all economic activity mediated via a central bank, a global
- 53:48Speaker 2: central bank, again, which is oligarch policy. And this is
- 53:52Speaker 2: the issue that a lot of socialists don't seem to understand,
- 53:55Speaker 2: is that they're driving towards things which the people that
- 53:58Speaker 2: they're supposedly fighting against want to happen to. So centralization
- 54:03Speaker 2: of all financial activity under the Bank of International Settlements
- 54:08Speaker 2: or DM twenty five are asking for basically that outcome.
- 54:12Speaker 2: If you don't think that the oligarchy like the UN,
- 54:14Speaker 2: you don't know anything about the UN because it's completely
- 54:17Speaker 2: controlled by global oligarchs through charitable supposedly charitable foundations like
- 54:23Speaker 2: the Rockefeller Foundation, the Gates Foundation, whatever it might be.
- 54:27Speaker 2: That's how the UN is controlled, and it has been
- 54:29Speaker 2: for at least thirty years, and actually, if you go
- 54:32Speaker 2: back even to its formulation, it was established with the
- 54:35Speaker 2: full backing of the Rockefeller family. The Council on Foreign
- 54:37Speaker 2: Relations are involved all that kind of thing, right. So
- 54:40Speaker 2: the idea that the UN is the solution to the
- 54:42Speaker 2: problems that we face, I think is a bit far fetched.
- 54:44Speaker 2: And the big thing that they're really pushing is this,
- 54:46Speaker 2: which is this Green New Deal. They want to completely
- 54:49Speaker 2: transform the economic system. We need change. The planet's burning.
- 54:54Speaker 2: Friday's for future there, that's Gretthamberg's thing. The people want change,
- 55:00Speaker 2: have the solutions. It's good the green collar jobs here
- 55:04Speaker 2: at that term, the Green New Deal, green homes, green income.
- 55:09Speaker 2: This is the deal. This is what we're progressing. And
- 55:11Speaker 2: if you listen to Zach Polanski's economic speech which he
- 55:15Speaker 2: gave it the New Economic Foundation last week week before,
- 55:18Speaker 2: in fact, essentially what they're talking about doing is taking
- 55:22Speaker 2: out a load of debt, going to the bond markets,
- 55:25Speaker 2: and then using that to buy technology from international corporations
- 55:28Speaker 2: who aren't based in this country and to move us
- 55:34Speaker 2: towards this new technological paradigm. It's completely electrified, built on
- 55:39Speaker 2: supposedly sustainable technologies, which is nothing of the sort and
- 55:44Speaker 2: is actually the ultimate agenda of the oligarchy in the
- 55:47Speaker 2: United Nations and what have you. In this democracy. Supposed
- 55:53Speaker 2: socialism is the vehicle through which a lot of this
- 55:56Speaker 2: is being progressed. We'll talk about this a lot more,
- 55:58Speaker 2: because this is absolutely crucial. This is, as I say,
- 56:01Speaker 2: the direction of travel for particularly young people, right, and
- 56:04Speaker 2: this is what they're pushing through the schools and through
- 56:07Speaker 2: the culture. And it's not just at a European level,
- 56:09Speaker 2: it's happening at a global level well as well, not
- 56:13Speaker 2: least through this organization, Progressive International, which was founded in
- 56:16Speaker 2: twenty twenty and was originally backed by Ernie Sanders. And
- 56:21Speaker 2: we've got a little mention in your clip that you
- 56:23Speaker 2: show there of Corbyn which we didn't prepare earlier.
- 56:26Speaker 16: So there was a nice coming together at the story.
- 56:29Speaker 16: It's there exactly and thank you very much for that.
- 56:33Speaker 16: So while all eyes focus on the horrors of the wars,
- 56:37Speaker 16: whether it's Ukraine or against Iran, this is what is
- 56:42Speaker 16: manipulating policy in this country, and it's lifting the stones,
- 56:47Speaker 16: identifying it for what it is and calling it out
- 56:49Speaker 16: that makes the difference. So you can do something about it,
- 56:54Speaker 16: but it requires a lot of people to act. Are
- 56:57Speaker 16: just going to end the ridge today of Iran with
- 57:02Speaker 16: the fact that clearly the BBC has a problem because
- 57:05Speaker 16: all is not going well for Israel. Wall Street Journal
- 57:09Speaker 16: here with a pretty potent headline, Israel is rationing its
- 57:13Speaker 16: best interceptors and Iran's missiles are getting through, so there's
- 57:18Speaker 16: no misunderstanding what's going on there. And basically the Israelis
- 57:24Speaker 16: have had to ration their high end missile interceptors. But
- 57:29Speaker 16: there's a.
- 57:30Speaker 1: Daily Iranian barrage which is coming through. So the Wall
- 57:35Speaker 1: Street Journal saying it absolutely black and white. I've put
- 57:39Speaker 1: it in red for you, daily Iranian barrages that haven't
- 57:42Speaker 1: let up through four weeks of war. So the Iranians
- 57:48Speaker 1: are clearly still operating and those missiles are flying. Now
- 57:53Speaker 1: we bring on screen this little box. You won't be
- 57:56Speaker 1: able to read it. What is this, Well, we'll expand
- 57:58Speaker 1: it because it's the Ministry Defense is Propaganda Site Defense HQ.
- 58:04Speaker 1: And what it's talking about here is that Royal Navy,
- 58:07Speaker 1: British Army and Royal Air Force personnel working quotes seamlessly
- 58:12Speaker 1: together to deliver integrated air defense in the Middle East. Well,
- 58:17Speaker 1: they might be producing integrated air defense in the Middle East,
- 58:20Speaker 1: but clearly that air defense is not working because even
- 58:24Speaker 1: the BBC is now having to report the hits on
- 58:29Speaker 1: Israel and in Deep Today there are two little video
- 58:33Speaker 1: clips on the BBC website showing two of those hits.
- 58:38Speaker 1: So basically it's clear that Iran has not been beaten
- 58:42Speaker 1: despite Trump's rhetoric, and he is under pressure himself. I've
- 58:49Speaker 1: gone to the Kiev Post here a fact check, and
- 58:53Speaker 1: not a very good fact check, but he gives us
- 58:55Speaker 1: something to talk about because they're unhappy that Trump has
- 59:00Speaker 1: said that Ukraine is the cause of US ammunition shortages
- 59:04Speaker 1: with respect of Iran, so they've decided to see if
- 59:08Speaker 1: he's telling the truth. They ultimately say he isn't, but
- 59:12Speaker 1: they do provide some good statistics, and essentially here it
- 59:17Speaker 1: says that the United States probably transferred to Ukraine somewhere
- 59:21Speaker 1: between five hundred and eight hundred patriots, that's between twenty
- 59:25Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty four, and that Lockheed Martin
- 59:30Speaker 1: produces about five hundred and fifty six fifty new missiles
- 59:35Speaker 1: every year, not just for Ukraine but for all customers.
- 59:40Speaker 1: And then if we go on through the article a
- 59:43Speaker 1: bit more. It points out that the number of patriots
- 59:47Speaker 1: launched against an incoming Iranian attack can range between eight
- 59:53Speaker 1: hundred and twelve hundred missiles. Now I don't believe this
- 59:56Speaker 1: figure because it seems to be very very high to me,
- 59:59Speaker 1: but in any case, what they're saying is that roughly
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: twice the number of interceptor missiles to deliver delivered to
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Ukraine over four years has been expended by the US
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: and its allies in less than a month. So make
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: of that what you will. What is clear is that
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Iran is still very much fighting, despite the claims of
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: Donald Trump and despite action by British military, and of
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: course we've got Israel in the background wanting to ramp
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: up the violence because it's taking the hits, and the
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: people who are going to suffer, aside from the Iranians
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: and Israelis themselves, are people who are going to suffer
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: through what's the word reduction in global economy. So troubled times,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: but clear that things in the Middle East absolutely not
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: as being claimed by Donald Trump and Keir Starmer. So
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: we'll bend with the BBC, which I've quite rightly been
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: attacking here in today's news for their appalling journalism and reporting,
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: but we can see some more devious things happening behind
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: the scenes.
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: I think, yeah, a little bit. Yes, We're going to
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: just touch on something that Basil brought up on Friday,
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: which is that Matt Britain has been selected as the
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: next BBC Director General and this is a really important appointment.
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: I think he is British thankfully. He was made a
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: CB two months ago as as very much company man,
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: part of the furniture in the top levels of the establishment.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: But he ran Google in Europe for basically fifteen years, right,
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: so when Google was in its big expansion mode and
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: driving a huge transformation of not just the European economy
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: but the global economy. He was responsible for the European
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: component of it through digitization, the introduction of new platforms
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: like their search business and YouTube and whatnot. He was
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: in the driving seat for probably the most important market
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: in that period outside of the US, right, so this
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: is absolutely a big tech guy. He would have been
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: in charge through COVID. He would have been there when
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: they set up the Trusted News Initiative, which was their
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: whole censorship program, working alongside the BBC and Telegraph and
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: CNN and what have you. He would have been overseeing
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: YouTube when we were booted off YouTube. Yeah, so absolutely
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: he was part of that whole agenda. And I had
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: a couple of clips. I wanted to just show you
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: a couple of images from his from his leaving do
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: because it gives you a sense of like how closely
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: knit the top levels of the media and the technology
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: industry are in the UK. So that's his leaving do,
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: it's about a year ago now. And then sitting at
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: one of the top tables we got there. Look at
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: there's Tim Davie.
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: It's just a coincidences.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: Tim Davey, Yes, sir, Actually the guy whose job you're
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: you're taking was at your leaving do and you obviously
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: know him quite well, and he's sitting next to there,
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: just to the left of Tim Davies. We're looking at
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: the image. That's Debbie Weinstein, who now runs Google has
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: taken Matt Brittain's job. So this is just a tiny
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: little group circulating revolving door. Absolutely, he is a revolving door.
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: And then also finally we'll probably we should do some
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: more on this because there's a lot there's a lot
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: around this, this this whole crowd is that actually Davy
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: has already got a new job and he's going to
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: be the chair of the Creative Industries Council, which basically
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: oversees the film industry, music, advertising, craft like anything to
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: do with creativity coming out of the UK, which is
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: one of our primary industries.
- 1:03:46Speaker 8: Right.
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: We talk about the creative industry a lot. He's not
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: going to be in charge of that. He's going to
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: be overseeing it. Having been booted out of the BBC in.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: Disgrace allegedly or perhaps moved out.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: To video of resign. I mean, he didn't cover himself
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: in glory, did he know?
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: And what we got there, we've got a corect if
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: we just popped that up on screen. Something I always
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: pay attention to is the corruption of the Union flag there,
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: which is already very significant to me. We see it
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: in black on the shoulders of police in UK, so
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: that is a corruption that's actually should be regarded as
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: an insult to the nation, but here it's used in
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: a very casual way. We must end there, Ben, thank
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: you very much, We'll say to our audience, pretty heavy
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: UK column news today, but we needed to do it
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: because many people getting into a little bit of a
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: frazzle with a increase in the fuel prices. We're seeing
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: prices in the shops go up. Talk of the war
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: in Iran and of course still in Ukraine and a
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty and chaos relaxed. It's being engineered. And
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: when you can see how it's being engineered, you can
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: see who is engineering it, and it's exposure of those people.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: That's part of the key to stopping the madness of
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: going of what's going on. And I think we should
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: end by saying that at the end of the day,
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: in these troubled times, we all need as many possible
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: people to be our friends, and we should be regarding
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: people from the outset as a potential friend, not a
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: potential enemy, because this is the key thing to break
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: down this divide and rule tactic. So if you meet
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: a stranger, just try talking to them and understand a
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: bit more about them, because that will be strengthening the
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: fight against this terrible rules based international order that would
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: have each and every one of us against the other.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: We'll end there, Thanks, Ben, we were sorry. I should
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: just on UK column News will be back at the
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: same time one o'clock on Wednesday. See you then, OHI