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  Speaker 1: It's 38 all.
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  Speaker 2: Bills can win it here. Wright puts it down.
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  Speaker 1: The kick is on the way and it is good.
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  Speaker 3: And the Bills have won it.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills have won it. The Bills have won it.
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  Speaker 1: They win it 41 to 38. Incredible.
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  Speaker 2: What a comeback by the Bills. Jacksonville's perfect record on
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  Speaker 2: the line right here.
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  Speaker 1: Looney, keep it.
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  Speaker 2: Left side, touchdown. Kyle Williams, touchdown. Amazing. Unbelievable. They put
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  Speaker 2: in Williams.
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  Speaker 1: Has to pull back.
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  Speaker 2: And he scores a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: The 12th year defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 2: It's really incredible.
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  Speaker 1: No underscores there, just P-R-O-A-N-T. In this edition of Disguised Coverage,
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  Speaker 1: we will be diving into the Buffalo Bills versus Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: Ravens Week 8 matchup, a preview, breakdown, scheme, structure, player aspects,
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  Speaker 1: coaching aspects, anything and everything that you need to know
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  Speaker 1: to prepare you for this game that has essentially kind
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  Speaker 1: of become a yearly tradition. At this point, the bills
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  Speaker 1: and Ravens continuously find themselves playing each other, either in
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  Speaker 1: the regular season and or the playoffs for the past
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  Speaker 1: several years. And what we started to do this year
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  Speaker 1: on the show, I pivoted to more film episodes, uh,
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  Speaker 1: here on disguise coverage, breaking down certain aspects of the
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  Speaker 1: team or certain sides of the ball players, anything like that,
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  Speaker 1: but on certain weeks, bigger matchups, uh, or fun matchups
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  Speaker 1: or ones that feature a team that has somebody who
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  Speaker 1: covers them that I enjoy talking ball with and that
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy having on the show. We pivot and we
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  Speaker 1: do kind of go back to the old format a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of breaking down the team matchup and what
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  Speaker 1: to watch for like we have in years past. And
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  Speaker 1: that is the occasion for this week. I'm not alone
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  Speaker 1: here in this episode to talk about the Bills versus
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  Speaker 1: Ravens in Week 8, having on, I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: many appearances he's made at this point because he's been
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  Speaker 1: here for several, several, several years. I see him in
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  Speaker 1: the green screen. I want to make sure he's ready
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  Speaker 1: before I bring him up. He is joining the stage, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Schultz of Baltimore Film Club. Breakdown lore. You can
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  Speaker 1: find his work at the Baltimore Film Breakdown. Substack at BaltimoreFilmBreakdown.com.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were going for the off-screen jump in.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, uh-oh, he's got to grab something.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing a Collinsworth slide in.
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  Speaker 1: You nailed it. You nailed it. I screwed it up.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. This is.
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  Speaker 2: I.
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  Speaker 1: Was trying to think of it as I was stalling
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  Speaker 1: and thinking in my head.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I knew it was going to mess you up.
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  Speaker 2: You could see me in the green room, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, maybe... No, no, not that. I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to think of what... I think this is maybe...
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  Speaker 2: Your fourth time here? Yeah, I'd say fourth probably. It's definitely...
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  Speaker 2: I would guess that the first time was perhaps when
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  Speaker 2: the Ravens and Bills played in Baltimore. Maybe it was
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  Speaker 2: at 2022.
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  Speaker 1: The rain game?
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  Speaker 2: The rain game, Bills come back. And then definitely playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely week one last year. And if I had to guess,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. This might be the fourth one on cover one.
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  Speaker 2: Presented by OnePiePizza.com.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you nailed it. You nailed it. Doing good work.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've been doing stuff for years, but got
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  Speaker 1: rolling the sub stack now and garnering good attention, as
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  Speaker 1: you do. You know football. You know the Ravens team
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  Speaker 1: inside and out. I appreciate you taking the time to
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  Speaker 1: join me. We'll dive right into it. I want to
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  Speaker 1: get your thoughts on a couple things before we get
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  Speaker 1: into the meat and the crux of the episode here.
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  Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens, in case anybody does not know, new...
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of regime in place with a regime
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  Speaker 1: change in the off season, long time head coach, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Harbaugh gone now in New York, Jesse Minter takes over.
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  Speaker 1: I had Jesse Minter. I like, I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fans did or folks did like on a short,
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  Speaker 1: short list of potential head coaches. I liked what he
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  Speaker 1: did with the chargers. I like what he was doing
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  Speaker 1: schematically kind of who and what he was. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to change for the bills, defensive structure and identity. I
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  Speaker 1: thought he could bring that. A lot of fun stuff
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  Speaker 1: from Minter with the Chargers last year. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun stuff from him in the preseason. Some fun stuff
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  Speaker 1: throughout the first several games. Here we are now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: off of a less than stellar performance, specifically in the
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  Speaker 1: second half against the Bengals. What are your thoughts here on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of the early returns on Jesse Minter and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, him kind of being at the helm, whether it's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as a head coach overall or what he's
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  Speaker 1: meant defensively. Just kind of what are your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: him thus far?
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  Speaker 2: I think I like the demeanor of Jesse Minter very
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  Speaker 2: much so. That's the one thing I've spoken about on
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  Speaker 2: my own ramblings that his consistency of personality is really
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  Speaker 2: refreshing following what became a little bit of a tumultuous.
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  Speaker 2: This is more like fan stuff, but it became a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more tumultuous with John Harbaugh getting a little
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  Speaker 2: bit antsy and ornery and any other A-words towards the
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  Speaker 2: media and growing a little long in the tooth in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: So Minter has a really... neutral, with a smile demeanor,
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  Speaker 2: his tone of voice, his cadence, the way he speaks,
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  Speaker 2: the way he conducts himself, how long his beard is,
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  Speaker 2: how short his hair is cut, the twinkle in his eye,
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  Speaker 2: the clothes he wears, all look the same and sound
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  Speaker 2: the same every single day. He is someone that is
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  Speaker 2: heavy on teaching. He is a teacher. He is like
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  Speaker 2: the history teacher that you loved in high school. That
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  Speaker 2: is what he feels like to me. For someone who's
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  Speaker 2: the coach of grown men playing a children's game it's
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  Speaker 2: heavy on teaching it's heavy on technique it's heavy on
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  Speaker 2: consistency and consistency of personality and i've i've liked that
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  Speaker 2: aspect of him pertaining to the stuff that matters between
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  Speaker 2: the white lines we have seen him with some really
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  Speaker 2: wicked sim pressures we've seen him with some really wicked
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  Speaker 2: coverage rotations i would say Everybody talks about the Ravens.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a Bills fan, you gather from the Ravens
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  Speaker 2: what you might see on the Everything app, in Twitter, X,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. And you see some
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  Speaker 2: national stuff. You have a couple guys you might like
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  Speaker 2: that you follow. And the name of the game is
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  Speaker 2: them blowing leads and all that stuff. It's been going
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  Speaker 2: on for quite some time and a big reason why
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  Speaker 2: they turned over from John Harbaugh. So him to have
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  Speaker 2: that consistency of personality, I think, is refreshing there. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's getting tried and true with some injuries. The
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  Speaker 2: Ravens aren't the most injured team on earth. And woe
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  Speaker 2: is me. It's the national football league. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: get injured. You're going to get beaten up. You're getting
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  Speaker 2: paid millions of dollars and you're going to have to, uh,
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  Speaker 2: we got Luloff comedy is ornery and a word. I meant, uh,
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  Speaker 2: what was I looking for? Do they call them in
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  Speaker 2: the replacements? No, I was looking for why.
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  Speaker 1: Are you, why are you there?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, but ultimately I think Jesse Minter's consistency is, is there,
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  Speaker 2: but they've made a big switch defensively to such a zone, uh,
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  Speaker 2: zone match, heavy philosophy, scheme system. And a lot of
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  Speaker 2: what we're seeing is the Ravens really want to funnel
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  Speaker 2: you to throw the ball over their linebackers, heads and
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  Speaker 2: hooks and underneath of their safeties who might be playing halves,
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  Speaker 2: might be playing quarters, might be playing a closed variation
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  Speaker 2: with a post safety. And if you can do it, which,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Joe Burrow, the Bengals are being a little
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  Speaker 2: weird in the first half, trying to go really vertical
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  Speaker 2: on a defense that wants you to try to do that.
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  Speaker 2: They stopped and they started targeting that area and Joe
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  Speaker 2: Burrow can rip it there. So he tore them up
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  Speaker 2: a bit in the second half doing so. Josh Allen
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  Speaker 2: can certainly do it. And to me, the final stepping
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  Speaker 2: stone is that when you're playing an offense that's capable
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  Speaker 2: of taking what you're giving them, you have to go tackle.
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  Speaker 2: You have to go end plays. You have to limit
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  Speaker 2: the big plays after the catch. Some of those things
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  Speaker 2: have been okay against the run for sure. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's nothing crazy there, but we've seen the Browns late
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  Speaker 2: and then the Bengals in the second half again late
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  Speaker 2: later be able to hit that area where he wants
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  Speaker 2: you to have to throw the ball. That's the hard stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The way that I personally evaluate like a college quarterback is.
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  Speaker 2: If they are throwing over the middle of the field
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  Speaker 2: with varying degrees of touch, can they throw a four-seam
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  Speaker 2: fastball next to a linebacker and then pepper one over
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  Speaker 2: him before a safety can go make a player hurt
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  Speaker 2: my guy? Just because they're not asked to mean that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean they can't necessarily. But overall, I think the
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  Speaker 2: Ravens players are still trying to execute a little faster.
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to process that so they can trigger on
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  Speaker 2: it as it's happening. Yeah. when you play these better
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks Joe Burrow Josh Allen they're gonna play Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 2: after that I know the Chargers are tough but Justin
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  Speaker 2: Herbert certainly capable of doing that consistently well the Ravens
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  Speaker 2: only played Dak Prescott really in their first six games
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  Speaker 2: was the only I think veteran high processing quarterback that
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  Speaker 2: can consistently target that area with those varying degrees of
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  Speaker 2: touch so I think it's a nice test for the
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  Speaker 2: Ravens to go have Deshaun Watson beat you late, Joe
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  Speaker 2: Burrow to beat you late. You're going to have to
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  Speaker 2: go play Josh Allen, who does it really well. And
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have to see it earlier. You're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to trust your keys and get to it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a test. It's a big test. And it's
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  Speaker 2: going to show kind of, I think, do I have
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  Speaker 2: the right guys in year one for Jesse Minter? Is
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  Speaker 2: Malachi Stark's first round pick, is he triggering on it,
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  Speaker 2: seeing it? and seeing it before it's there, like you
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  Speaker 2: want a quarterback to do, you know, do I want
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  Speaker 2: Roquan Smith who has a big cap hit? Is he,
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  Speaker 2: is he making those windows as small as he could be?
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  Speaker 2: Is Kyle Hamilton needing to play back more? Does that
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  Speaker 2: mean that I need to get a different nickel or
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  Speaker 2: they brought in Jalen Hawkins? They have Keandre Jackson, a
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  Speaker 2: young player behind him. They signed another safety today, a
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  Speaker 2: veteran and Rayshawn Jenkins. So do I have the right guys?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give them more time. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: have the hard tests against the good passers and the
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  Speaker 2: good offenses that are on time. And, To me, that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of where I'm at with Jesse Minter. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's in an evaluation point. I like what I've seen.
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  Speaker 2: I think the consistency is there. I think he's putting
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  Speaker 2: guys in the spots. They just need to make the play.
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  Speaker 1: Very fair. It's funny how several of your sentiments about Minter,
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  Speaker 1: the roster, the execution pieces, everything echoes very similarly to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of what we've seen from the Bills defense
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  Speaker 1: and first year, well, new regime change defensively under Jim Leonard.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to grab this super chat. This is going
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  Speaker 1: to tie into one of my points later, but all
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  Speaker 1: super chats get brought up. Mac, I appreciate you very much.
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  Speaker 1: The question is, what changes do you think we'll see
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  Speaker 1: to the defense, Bill's defense versus the Ravens? And I
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  Speaker 1: like the qualification here at the end. This is the
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  Speaker 1: equivalent of about $ 12 in Columbia pesos. I appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: for the clarification, but all super chats are appreciated. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being here. Thank you for watching. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for the super chat. I am starring this. This will
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  Speaker 1: tie into one of my points later. Yeah, it's funny. The,
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  Speaker 1: the SIM pressure stuff. So the Ravens, They're sixth in
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  Speaker 1: simulated pressure rate at 21.9% this year. But I was
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  Speaker 1: going back and watching them. They have 23 total Sims
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  Speaker 1: this year. They had 15 in the first three weeks
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  Speaker 1: and only eight the next four. Now, sometimes the charting
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  Speaker 1: of it can be a little wonky. But I wanted more,
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  Speaker 1: especially because I liked how they were wielding them. Granted,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I guess... how Daniel Jones and the Colts
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  Speaker 1: are operating maybe might not be the best barometer, but
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  Speaker 1: they had a beautiful one early on in, I think
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  Speaker 1: maybe on the first drive against the Colts where it's
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  Speaker 1: a zero, it's a zero Sam. And it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like they do their glitch blitz stuff. And instead of
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  Speaker 1: dropping two in interior defensive lineman out, it's just one
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  Speaker 1: plus Roquan. But the interior defensive lineman, they drop his
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  Speaker 1: project Washington and he drops right as a low hole player.
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  Speaker 1: And he almost has a pick. And I was like, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: like starting out beautiful. And I expected to see more
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  Speaker 1: of it. And I wanted to see more of it.
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  Speaker 1: And they kind of sloughed off a little bit. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how much that plays a role.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that'll tie into one of our other matchup pieces.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other matchup pieces that we might discuss
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  Speaker 1: later in some capacity. There's some news today. There's been
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  Speaker 1: news the past several weeks. Things have been kind of wonky.
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Do you think he plays this weekend? I thought...
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  Speaker 1: I mean, granted, I'm not keyed in, including the Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: as much as you are. I thought he would play
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  Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. I remember thinking there was rumblings like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: he'll come back against Cleveland. It should be okay. When
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  Speaker 1: he didn't, I was like, okay, that makes sense. They're
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  Speaker 1: saving him for Cincinnati. And then still nothing. Does he
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  Speaker 1: come back this week? Does he come back this week
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  Speaker 1: and it's because he's good to go? Or is it
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  Speaker 1: because they faltered a little bit and this game maybe
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  Speaker 1: means a little more now from an AFC conference standpoint?
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Lamar? Do you think he
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  Speaker 1: ends up playing this week? Where's your head at? Where's
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  Speaker 1: your heart?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think many know. And the
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  Speaker 2: reason I don't think many know is because Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 2: does not have a representation from David Mugata or from
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  Speaker 2: Drew Rosenhouse or from athletes first or any of these
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  Speaker 2: big agents. He has his own crew of a non
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  Speaker 2: NFL PA certified, you know, advisors, agents, whatever he calls them.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think people know. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Ian Rapoport and Adam Schefter know because he doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: someone that's in their circle, their web that enables them
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  Speaker 2: to do these insider things. So what happens with Lamar
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  Speaker 2: Jackson is they talk to somebody who might know a
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  Speaker 2: bit and it's a big, it's a big talking point
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  Speaker 2: and clickety clickety. And then they say something that something
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  Speaker 2: might be 70% accurate, but more margin for error than typical.
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  Speaker 2: I think Lamar Jackson is very private and a little sensey.
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  Speaker 2: about his privacy. And so the Ravens really don't want
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  Speaker 2: to give much to anyone. And so theories start to
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  Speaker 2: then run wild, all these things. So Ian Rappaport went on,
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  Speaker 2: for example, and said, well, it's not a low ankle
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  Speaker 2: sprain or a high ankle sprain. So everyone said, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a medial ankle sprain. Lamar Jackson then does press availability.
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  Speaker 2: I have not. So he's, he's missed it. I think
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be the sixth. If he was
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  Speaker 2: to not play in this game, this will be the
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  Speaker 2: 16th regular season start, excuse me, regular or post-season start.
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  Speaker 2: He has missed due to injury.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: He's sat a couple times when they've clinched a one seed.
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  Speaker 2: He missed a game because he tested positive for COVID.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that puts him at 19 total. He
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  Speaker 2: has started 118 total games. So in those little steds,
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  Speaker 2: he hasn't been out for the season, things like that.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of ambiguity. And because of that, I
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  Speaker 2: think fans get pretty upset and want to know. Fantasy
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  Speaker 2: football players want to know. Bills fans when they're playing
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  Speaker 2: the Ravens would like to know. It's an interesting topic.
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  Speaker 2: So then this big national– Thing happens, and what I
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  Speaker 2: saw last week that was unfamiliar to me from my
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  Speaker 2: spectator's view was him practicing limited all week and then
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  Speaker 2: not playing, following, missing some games. He also went and
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  Speaker 2: both Tyler Huntley and Lamar Jackson spoke at the podium,
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  Speaker 2: which I cannot recall that happening during the week before
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  Speaker 2: a game, so that was a little unique. Lamar came
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  Speaker 2: out and said, I have a high ankle sprain. My
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  Speaker 2: trainer told me I have a high ankle sprain, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure why Ian Rapoport said that, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go with what Adrian Dixon, our head athletic
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  Speaker 2: trainer told me I have Ian Rappaport to then today said, um,
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  Speaker 2: actually it's not a high ankle sprain. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: really know what is going on with that, but Ian
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  Speaker 2: is very sure that Lamar is, uh, not, not right
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  Speaker 2: or something like that. So nonetheless, uh, do I think
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  Speaker 2: he plays this weekend? To me, the Ravens play the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars next Thursday. Okay. And what Lamar said is I'm
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of pain. And that's what he said
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  Speaker 2: in that press availability. I'm in a lot of pain.
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  Speaker 2: And if I'm in pain and I can't do the
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: things I do, then I think, you know, maybe my
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback should be the one doing it basically. And
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: him and him and Tyler Huntley have been playing together
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: a while, good friends. And I think there is a
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: little level of trust there that, you know, probably isn't primary,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: but maybe ancillary to why Lamar might sometimes be like, Hey,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Snoop's got it. So with all that said, They play
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars four days after they play the Bills. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: don't know if he's had an ankle and he's kind
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: of 50-50. If you're really wanting him to play two
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: games in four days, the Ravens have lost to the
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Browns and the Bengals consecutively. The Bills are going to
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: be favorites. The Bills are coming off of a bye.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: The Bills are at home. And then you're going to
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: have to turn around and play a game four days later.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: So to me, I would lean if I had to guess.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I am a betting man. But I would say I
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: would think we might see one more game of Tyler
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Snoop Huntley in this one. If I had to guess,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think many people do, but
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that's my guess.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I love that point about, well, I loved everything you said.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Cause I was very insightful. Um, but I love that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: point about, yeah, like you're, and that's not even just
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: a Lamar thing. Like anybody, like if you're bringing somebody
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: back from injury and then you have a, you're on
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: a short week, the next week, it like the odds
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: of him playing both games are small. So like, what
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: are you going to do? that's not just for Lamar
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: it's for anybody you're not going to bring them back
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: for one week and then they got to play on
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: short rest so it's like okay we might as well
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: let him rest another week that's super muddy I love
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the point about how hit the communication about his injury
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and tying it back to because I know he doesn't
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: have an agent and I've never really like thought about
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like the injury stuff it's like yeah well yeah because
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have somebody who's like beating the national reporters
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and everything to be like, Hey, you know, say this
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: about my guy or like, Hey, like note this or
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: note that, um, really interesting points. I, I hope he plays, um,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: as soon as possible. I, I think I've been pretty
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: open about this every time you've been on the show. Uh, I, I've,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I enjoy the Ravens team and franchise, uh, very thoroughly.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Ed Reed is my favorite player of all time. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: love Terrell Suggs. Uh, I, you know, I enjoy the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Ravens a lot. And Lamar is one of my favorite
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: players in the league and football is better when he's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: healthy and him versus Allen has always been super fun.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: You know, all, all due respect to Huntley who has
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: his moments where it's like, man, could this dude be something? Um,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Lamar is sick. I hope he plays at
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: some point. I hope he just gets healthy, gets right. Um,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: especially with how electric he is and It's, it's, it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a shame because especially these first several games this year,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I know in preparing, like starting to watch the tape
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: this week, I was going back and watching different things. And,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: but man, those first several games, he was on corking
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: some throws, man, like some layering, some throws over the middle.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: He was seeing the field. Well, he was moving well.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: um yeah so it'll be nice to see him come
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: back whenever he does come back we are going to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: now move to the crux of this episode where spence
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and i go inside the buffalo bills versus baltimore ravens
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Week 8 matchup with a preview and detailed breakdown. For
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: those who don't know, myself and Spence will each go
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: back and forth giving our top three things to watch
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: for in this game that will decide this game. It
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: could be super niche down. It could be large scale.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Anything and everything. I don't know his answers. He does
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: not know mine. We're completely blind to each other's answers.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: So we could have the exact same thing. We could
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: be polar opposites. We have no idea. For those of
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you joining us live and playing at home, Feel free
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to put your answers into the chat and or comment
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: on ours. If you are watching posts live on YouTube,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: feel free to put anything into the comments, get asked
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: on socials, anything and everything, questions, thoughts, comments, concerns. Feel
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: free to put that up into the live chat as well.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I like to make the show as engaging as possible. Spence,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you are the guest. So I'm going to give you
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the floor first. I don't know if you have these ranked,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: if you have them like three, two, one, one, two, three,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: if they're all equal, if you want to go with
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: one over the other, but the floor is yours. Feel
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: free to give me your first talking point when it
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: comes to going inside Bills versus Ravens.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is Bills' defensive front that has
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the biggest improved player or ascending star, I would say,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: right now across any defensive front in the NFL right now.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: And Deion Walker, Greg Rousseau continuing to just blossom year
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: over year with his incredible frame and athleticism and power.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I think this Bill's front is about as good as
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: a front as they've had in four years to me, three,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: four years getting after it. And a lot of that
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Dion Walker and Greg Rousseau. So the Ravens conversely have
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: probably underinvested in their offensive line. They try to right
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: their wrongs. They draft Vega. You want a first round,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: very highly touted and highly selected guard with the 14th
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: overall pick in the NFL draft. He ends up, playing
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: center this year for them because the Ravens lost their,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: they lost Tyler Linderbaum in free agency, which I don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: think they anticipated. So then they brought in Danny Pinter,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: who's a longtime backup that had been with their offensive
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: line coach, Dwayne Ledford. They also signed Ethan Posick. They
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: also have Jonathan Gwynn, another Ledford guy who fits like
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a wide zone boot scheme. And they end up losing
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Pinter before the season starts. They lose Gwynn. couple weeks
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: in and in the same game they lose post six
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: so their emergency center was none other than vega yuane
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: who snapped the ball 17 times in his three years
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: at penn state he actually filled in there very admirably
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and probably played higher level center than give him a
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: little bit of time there he might look better than
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: tyler linderbaum did but it he was beastly there considering
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: all things considered he was excellent And so they go
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: make a trade for Cam Juergens, the Philadelphia replacement for
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Jason Kelsey, who then had to play out of position
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: because of an injury to Landon Dickerson this year. So
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the Ravens spend more draft capital than I think any
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: team has ever sent for an interior offensive lineman, a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: second and a fifth to the Eagles for a player
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: that's on a cheap, affordable, controlled contract. They bring Cam
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Juergens in while he was in concussion protocol. He was
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: able to get his first start under his belt for
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: the Ravens against none other than Dexter Lawrence, who My
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: money is the best nose tackle I've ever seen in
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: my entire conscious football life. And then Vega Ioane goes
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: down as soon as they get a center that is
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: a normal natural center. And so now Vega Ioane will
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: be out. He will be missing in this game. They
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: also have been without their backup right guard in Andrew Voorhees,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: who was a USC standout that suffered an ACL at
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the combine. The Ravens took a flyer on him and
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: he was able to give them some snaps and So
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: now the Ravens are starting their fifth center, who is
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a natural center. They'll be starting their third right guard
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: in Emery Jones, who's really struggled. John Simpson, who the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Ravens signed this year, is the other guard. And he
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: is a nice stopgap player. I think he's a nice
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: role player. If he's your fourth or fifth, that's okay.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: And best lineman on your line, that's okay. So because
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: of this kind of shuffling, I think the Ravens have
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: had 19 different combinations across their five now. And you're
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: going to have Dion Walker and Greg Rousseau and some
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: of these big, beastly, powerful Bills defensive linemen who can
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: kind of two gap or shoot gaps. And it's a
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: tough task. The Ravens have had a success rate below
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: 25 percent running the football in each of their last
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: two games. So Snoop Huntley, a little challenge to throw
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the ball downfield. pass pro holder topic I haven't even
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: gotten into. And I think that's the matchup I'm looking at.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Can the Ravens figure out a way to make Dion
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Walker not look like Godzilla?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I like the way you phrased that. I came close
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to putting this one up there. It just with, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I was watching Ravens bangles live on Sunday. I see
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: how I want to go down. And I was like, Oh,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: like right after you kind of just have started to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: solidify things a little bit. Like he goes down, Um,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I also thought it was funny on the broadcast. They
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: kept like, I feel like they kept reversing his name.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: They kept calling him Vega as if like Vega was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the last name. And I was like, I don't think
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you guys are doing this correctly. Um, but he like,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: he was so fun at Penn state with how physical
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and athletic he was. And when the Ravens got him,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, Ooh, that's like that, that, that can
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: be a really fun fit, especially with this run game. Um,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: but yeah, they've been banged up. I feel like Ronnie
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Stanley is always like a coin toss on whether or
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: not he's going to get hurt at some point and
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: like mis-extended time or like a small amount of time
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: when he's in there, he's good, but he's always like
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a wild card of sorts. I feel like for health
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and this Ravens specifically the run game every year that
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: they play the bills, even when the bills have beaten them,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: they just gash the bills over and over. Oh, well, no,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, um, When, whatever, Baltimore kicked the hell out
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of the Bills.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Ravens, it was the regular, it was the Ravens. A
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: couple years ago. Was it a home opener? No, it
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: wasn't a home opener. It was Monday Night Football, I believe, 2024. Yes.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Week five, maybe week six.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I think on the first drive, the Ravens ran crunch,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry housed it for a 60-something yard touchdown.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had an 83-yard touchdown, yep.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a big touchdown.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry's first season, which was three years ago, was 2024, yep.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, good call. So it, but even in like defeat,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the playoff game a couple of years ago, the regular,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the season opener for both teams last year, they've largely
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: had their way with the bills run defense and the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: bills run defense has been porous. And then the Ravens
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: run game is good and unique. So they kinda, it's
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: not a great matchup for the bills defense or most teams.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I go into this one and I'm like, okay,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: their line is banged up a bit. The running success
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: hasn't really been there. I know the bangles, I mean,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the Bengals have really redefined their front this year with
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: all the moves they made. You shouted out Dexter Lawrence already,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: who's playing like a world beater. It felt like watching
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the Ravens in that game against the Bengals, they were
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: just running into a brick wall over and over and
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: over again. And I know the Bills don't have anybody
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: as stout as Lawrence. Even Walker, when he's playing like Godzilla,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: he's still playing more of a penetrator game. And he'll
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: grab somebody and chuck them down. But Lawrence is very
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: much like, hey, I'm going to sit here. Good luck
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: trying to move me. And then I can do a
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of other things on top of it. And
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: so I came into this one, yeah, like, can they
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: people move the Bills? Do they try to people move
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the Bills? Do they, like, can they get Henry to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the perimeter? How do they hold up in pass pro?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Rousseau has been a nice story. He slowed down the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: past three games versus all the production he had in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the first three. Walker has been really fun. But then
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: even everything in totality, like heading into the bye, this
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: group for the Buffalo Bills, 26th, As a defense, 26th
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: in sack rate, 24th in pressure rate, 25th in time
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to pressure, 31st in quick pressure rate. This was a
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: group that started out super hot. A lot of the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: production coming from Rousseau and Walker and getting some other guys.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: They've kind of cooled a little bit. Kirk Cousins having
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: some time to throw, and even when they are getting pressure,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it's usually coming later in the quarterback clock as opposed to, again,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that quick pressure rate and time to pressure, both of
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: those being lower. And I wonder for a banged-up offensive
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: line that has had success against you as a franchise
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: in previous years, does that start to turn a little
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: this year? Can the Bills stay stout? Can they get
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: pressure against somewhat of a wounded, banged-up group whose guys
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: that are even starting are kind of, yeah, more depth
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: guys as they try to wiggle and figure things out?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: So I came close to putting that one on my docket.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: That was my– I'm trying to think of the March
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Madness term. That was my last one out. the last
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: team did not make the bracket. That would have been.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: So my 65th team, or I don't know how many
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: teams there are now where there's like a thousand teams
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that just like the, the football playoff where they're adding
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: more teams every, every single year, but whatever conversation from
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: another time, I'm going to stay, I'm going to stay
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: on the Ravens offensive side. And, uh, I just titled
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: this one who stops Zay flowers. So Zay flowers, uh,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Kind of a Bills fan favorite. There were a lot of,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of, a lot of Bills fans who wanted
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers coming out of Boston College. I think a
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: lot of folks did. Fun, shifty, electric, downfield speed, athletic,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: give him the ball at the line. of scrimmage watch
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: him go chuck him the ball downfield watch him go
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: get it does a lot of fun stuff this year
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers out of 90 qualifying wide receivers he's third
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: in targets per route run he's fourth in target share
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: he's fourth in receiving yards he's first in yards per
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: route run at 3.73 He's fourth in yards after catch
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: per reception at 7.78. He's sixth in target success rate,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: 11th in EPA per target, and seventh in receptions. Even
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: with Lamar going down, Huntley has found him. I thought
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Declan Doyle did a great job in the first half
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: against the Bengals of getting him involved in a multitude
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: of ways. Screens around the line of scrimmage, some stuff underneath,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: hitting him on some stuff in the intermediate on a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: couple third and longs, and Zay kind of– doing some
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: stuff after the catch there. Bateman had another nice third
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and long as well, but Zay Flowers this year has
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: looked whenever he gets the ball. And even when he's
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: like moving without it, I guess, and his stems releases everything.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: He looks like the most dangerous player on the field.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Like he just looks so he's doing the dead leg
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and kind of waiting. And then he picks it back
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: up and he's just ghosting guys in, in a heartbeat.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: He's going up and making plays at the catch point.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking back to the, um, the catch against Atlanta
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: down late in the fourth quarter on first and 20,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: where he, you know, scramble drill, he gets open multiple times,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Huntley throws it up and he goes up, makes the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: play at the catch point against Xavier Watts while he's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: getting interfered with. So he's playing big at the catch point.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Plus he's doing all the jitterbug electric stuff on top
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: of it. He's really, I think he's been a good
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: player for a while. I think he's ascended further this year.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: As RJ says, I don't care what Ravens fans say,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers is an elite wide receiver one. He has
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: one of the best separation stats in the game. So
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a nice positive thing from a Bills fan there, but yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the Bills defense has struggled in a multitude of ways,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: especially in coverage. We saw their most recent game before
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: they went into the buy against the Raiders, different type
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of task entirely, but the, you know, not a wide receiver,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: but pass catching option one for the Ravens is, or
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: for the Raiders is Brock Bowers. Christian Benford traveled with
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: him on a multitude of reps all over the field. outside,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: left and right, and even inside a little bit, attached
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to the formation. Does anybody travel with Zay? Who do
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: they try to match him up with? He's a tough
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: guy to match up with because of how juiced up
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: he is, and you can play him anywhere. For a
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Bills coverage group that's been questionable in the spine, the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: linebackers and the safeties, is this a game where you
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: just put Zay Flowers as the number three and force
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the Bills linebackers and safeties to try and match up
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: with him? and say, good luck, we don't think you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: can do it. And then is he cooking linebackers and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: second-level players like he was against Dallas early in the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: year where he's just faking people left and right, and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: here comes a whipper out, psych, here comes the fake whip,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm actually going to run and drag across the middle.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: He's just been so dangerous. He's looked like the most
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: dangerous player on the field. The Bills' pass coverage has
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: lacked communication. They have not been on the same page.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: They've given up big plays. They've struggled mightily from a
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: playing– chemistry standpoint and whether it's Huntley whether it's Lamar
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Zay has been extremely dangerous Doyle I think has done
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a good job getting him involved in and this could
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: be a game where I'm trying to give him the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Puka Nakua treatment from the Rams game several weeks ago
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: where I'm like hey Zay here's like 20 something targets
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and let's see if the Bills can.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Cover yeah a lot of great points there Flowers usage
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: with Ravens first year offensive coordinator the now 30 year
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: old Declan Doyle he's 30 He's 30 years old.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Man, he's a baby. That's crazy.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: He's also deceivingly tall. If you look at him, you're like,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: you're 5'10. He's like 6'3, and you're like, that's not right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I don't trust you.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: You're lying. He's tall.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So the biggest thing I see simply is that Zay
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Flowers has taken more snaps out of the slot than
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: he has as a boundary or a number one to
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the width of the field this year. That has not
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: happened before. in Baltimore with Zay Flowers. This year he's
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: taken 128 snaps out of the slot, 121 wide, and
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: he has taken at least 19, pardon me, at least
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: 11 snaps out of the slot in every game he
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: got an injury. At least 15 snaps out of the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: slot since he returned from injury. He left that Colts
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: game in week one, a little injury. He had a
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: little bit more slot snaps. So since returning, he has
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: had one game where he had 12 more out wide.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of what the Ravens want to do is
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: align him in trips, like you mentioned, and they want
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to– one of Declan Doyle's favorites is to make the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: number three the number one or bring somebody from the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: other side of the field to the new number one
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and turning Zay Flowers into the number three. When you
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: turn someone into the number three, fast with fast motion,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that usually puts them on a safety or a linebacker.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And then what I've seen out of Zay Flowers has
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: been so much– less fat on his routes.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a really good way to play it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: The nuance, the minimal amount of steps, the maximizing his
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: kind of ankle flexion or how much he's just simply
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: turning and digging his cleats to work back to the ball,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: to get upfield, to square, to get to his spot
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: has been as good as anyone in football, in my opinion.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I know there's a comment in here. RJ Melville eight says,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I don't care what Ravens fans say. Zay Flowers is
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: an elite wide receiver. One, he has the best separation
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: stats in the game. And right. You mentioned Puka, like
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Jamar chase, the Ravens saw last week, gave him some
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: trouble in today's NFL with, without any rule changes happening
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: in a few years, we're seeing a little bit more.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: It's not as crazy as people think, but a little
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: bit more of those kind of softer, too high or
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: middle of the field, open concepts, a little more coverage
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: defenders underneath. Teams want to limit the over the top shot.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: The deep ball is not in vogue right now because
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: of what defenses have been doing. So the response to
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: that is, all right, let's get our best guy on
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: their worst coverage guy that we can possibly get him
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: with a matched up with through scheme. So Raven's a
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: little late to that party with flowers. I think his
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: focus and his off season training and his attention to detail.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: And like you said, the ability for him to run
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: these crossers where it's a fast bump out that causes
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: a In this scenario, it might be one of those–
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: what is it? Bernard and– oh, my God, who's the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: other Bills?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Dorian Williams.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Dorian Williams, there we go. If it's Dorian Williams and Bernard,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden it's fast and they've got to
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: try and carry him across the field, that's tough. And
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: those two can both run and they're long and they've
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: got some good things going. But it's mental quickness that
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: being able to see that process and understand what they're doing.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: But then, oh, all of a sudden everyone else is
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: cleared out. I'm ready to turn my hips to run
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: with a crosser. And Zay Flowers has perfectly, at 5'9,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: re-squared and is breaking back out to the sideline. It's
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: really hard to cover. So he's been elite. I think
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: he has been a definite absolute wide receiver one this season.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: He's looked fantastic. He doesn't lack. He lacked. The only
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: thing he really lacks is an aerial aspect to his game.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I'd say there's not, you know, go throw it up
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and he's going to go George pick in CD lamb.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Like we saw on Monday night football, able to go
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: snag balls outside of his frame consistently in the red area.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: He can do everything else for you. So he's been tough.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: He's been, he's also had a really positive attitude and,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Ravens have been a little downtrodden with some bad body language.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: It's not safe flowers. He has some diamond fronts he
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: likes to wear in games, and he likes to let
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you see him. He likes to smile. He likes to
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: be happy about it. He likes to make plays. He
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. He doesn't care who's playing quarterback. He's helping
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: his quarterback out. For a little guy, I have never
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: seen someone who is under like 5'11, ever, work back
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: to the ball better. Man, he had on that, that
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: first line back to the ball. Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: He had that on that first third and long, they
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: converted against the Bengals in the first half where he
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: comes back and he splits the two defenders. And then
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: he gets like six yards after the catch on like
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: a third and 19. Yeah. He just, he fights for
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the ball and snatches it.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: He has been working back to help the quarterback, to
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: be friendly to the quarterback as well as I've ever
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: seen a smaller stature receiver. He is sprinting like a
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: center fielder, trying to get a shallow fly ball on
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: his high horse to advance back towards the the quarterback.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: So that's been super fun to watch. He's been dynamic
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: after the catch better than ever. I mean, the screen
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: he housed against the Bengals last week, no one could
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: even put a ball on him. He looks like the
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: most untouchable player on the field or the, the quickest
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: or most agile or just spatially aware player on the field. Every,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: every time he has the ball in the open field
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: this season, it's been really fun to watch. So I
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: think it's a tough task. You mentioned Benford traveling, but
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Ravens are going to, are going to pressure test that
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: because there's gonna be fast motions changing the note, you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: who's number one, number two, and number three. and they're
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: going to test the rules of coverage with it. So,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: you know, the Bills had a bye week to try
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and bait some throws and maybe have some backside defenders
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: away from that. If you see motion fast one way,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: maybe have a nickel or something else or an end,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: drop back and see if you can undercut one of
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: those from the backside and deter the Ravens from doing it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: That's what I'd be trying to cook up if I was,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: you know, sitting back with an extra week's rest here.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and for a Bills defense that has, you know,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: had miscommunication, they've been frantic defensively, and literally up to
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the snap in their adjustments and on the field, changing
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the picture offensively at the last minute, and then doing
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: it with literal speed on top of it in terms
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: of the players that are moving. I like that recipe
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: a lot, and yeah, I'm going to move Flowers around.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I even put him in the backfield and do some
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: fun stuff like they have at times. I'll get him
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: some manufactured touches as well, but I'm getting him as
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that number three, and I'm saying hey, let's find your
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: guys in between the hashes. Who's going to cover this guy?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: How are you going to allocate resources to him? Because
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a problem and could
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: be some potential fireworks for Mr. Zay Flowers. All right,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: we've each given our ones, or our first points, I
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: should say, What do you got for your second point here?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Can anybody tackle Josh Allen? Okay. Can anybody go get
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen and bring him down right now? The Ravens
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: missed four tackles last week against the Bengals. Jamar Chase,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: a super strong athlete. Josh Allen, a super strong athlete.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: And man, I'm watching him against the Rams. I'm watching
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: him against the Raiders and Suddenly, you know, you're sitting
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: back playing man or playing in the Ravens case is
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: going to be zone. You're flat footed. He's got a
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: head of steam. And I don't know. I do have
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: my theories on how to relatively contain Josh Allen as
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Ravens and Bills have gone back and forth. I think
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: he bananas to his throwing side more elusively than anyone
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: else I've really seen with any size. He is always
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: just fast enough. and you cannot try and pursue his
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: back hip like you're supposed to. You need to go
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: cut him off and get his feet to stop moving
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: if you can get him to roll right. Otherwise, he
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: will outrun you, he will re-square, and he has an
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: absolute AC-130 for an arm that he can spray wherever
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: he wants. So as soon as he starts to move
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: backwards towards his arm side, get upfield towards the line
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage, I would rather that than let him re-approach
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage with a head of steam on
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: that side. So that's my theory that I've seen executed
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: well one time. And it was the one time the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Ravens gave him a ton of trouble on that Monday
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: night game. But yeah, other than that, I mean, it's
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: more so dangerous when he is moving at the line
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage somewhere between the numbers to me and he's
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: getting a little pump going, his eyes are moving around
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and he's getting some momentum. And right now, I mean, he's,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: about as dangerous a runner with the football as there
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: is in the NFL. More than that, James Cook, Khalil Shakir,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: tackle breakers that find a way out and find a
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: way to get more yards after the catch. So I'm
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: looking at those kind of three guys, mainly Josh Allen.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: We've seen a Ravens game come down to that rain
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: game we mentioned. Maybe it was 2022. They naked booted
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, and maybe it was him himself. Maybe it
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: was a design, but they boot Josh Allen. Patrick Queen
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: tries to get on his hip pocket. He's just always a,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: he's a fast enough to achieve his goal always. And
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: he's strong enough to achieve his goal always. So man,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: when he gets rumbling, like he was against the Rams,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: it was looking like, you know, I called Dion Walker, Godzilla.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to call Josh Allen. There's a,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: you know, a rhinoceros. I know they like to call
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: it looks a little bit more Rhino than Buffalo to me,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: but obviously you guys like to call him the great
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: white Buffalo up there. And I, I see that for sure. So,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: who's going to stick him. How are they going to get,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: prevent him from getting going in the run game? I
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: know he's talked a little bit about his mechanics are
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: a little off. He had to revert back to a
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: prior motion. I know he's worked with what, um, Jordan Palmer,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Jesse Paul, Jordan Palmer, Jordan Palmer. So we're working with
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Jesse's brother, Jordan. Um, and yeah, uh, talking about reverting back.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: So he was like, Oh, well, I don't feel great.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to my emotion and do
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: it with my legs. So, um, how can the Ravens
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: deal with that? I mean, their, their front has been
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit in flux on both sides of the ball.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, a big acquisition for them, missed a couple
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: of games, had to get finger surgery. He's had his, his, uh,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: three fingers on his inside hand, his left hand. He
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: likes to rushes the right outside linebacker over the left tackle. Um,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: those have been banded down. Um, Nnamdi Matabike miraculously coming
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: back from what was once thought to be a career
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: ending neck injury. He's been playing really well again. Um,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look quite as fast as he did in
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: maybe his heyday two years ago. But still, it's a
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: really golden retriever and galloping gazelle.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Galloping gazelle.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: He's like a golden retriever rhinoceros.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a golden retriever. Yeah, I always go with runaway moose.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, moose is accurate as well. So can you stunt?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Can you do anything to have layered, staggered? pressures that
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: get him to just at least stop his feet so
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: it's it's going to be those key third downs when
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: when nothing's there and he sees a little bit of
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: grass and i i mean i like his chances more
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: often than not um you know when he's got ahead
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: of steam going it's hard to it's hard to go
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: end a play and minimize the yards after contact and
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: all those things when that big fella gets moving so
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: it's a pretty simple one but ravens aren't tackling real
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: well right now the the pressure's been a little inconsistent
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: and i know if you don't you don't hit him
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and you don't force him on, on bad angles where
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: he can't feel consistently comfortable on the move. Like if
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: you get him into a game where he gets game
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: breaker mode, when he starts really holding down the trigger
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: and running all of a sudden, it feels like the,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: the natural from what he's talking about is yips. It
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: felt like the yips went away when he started to
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: feel the tempo of the game. He's, he's like, you know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: some sort of video game character. The more you punch him,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: the more he, he kind of, you know, the taste
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: of blood gets them going a little bit more. So man, it's,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: it's simple, but, hard to stop. So there's going to
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: be a big moment. Josh Allen's going to use his legs.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: It's maybe it's the first half. Maybe the Ravens, even
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: if Lamar doesn't play, are able to hang around for this, that,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: or another reason. But I just don't see the Ravens.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I don't see the dog in them right now. And
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I want to see if they can bring the dog.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jesse Minter and his press availability is saying,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: who's my leader on my defense. Somebody needs to step
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: up on the sideline. When you're talking like that, that's
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a challenge, man. So that, that should make guys want
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: to go hit Trenton Simpson. Somebody who's been a really
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: physical presence this year for the Ravens in a contract year.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe we see him with a big opportunity to go
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: see if he can haul down the golden retriever, moose, rhino,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: great white buffalo, galloping gazelle there. I don't know. I
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: probably will take Josh Allen in the open field over
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: most guys.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: That's fair. I like Trenton Simpson, so I still like him.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I liked him so much coming out of Clemson, and
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I enjoy seeing him. I've been enjoying seeing him get
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: more of a shot this year. To speak to some
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of your Ravens tackling woes, they are 24th in missed
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: tackles this year with 62, and they are 25th in
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: missed tackle rate at 13.2%. I really like your point about,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you know, can you tackle Josh Allen? His leg's battering
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: a lot. The last several weeks for the Bills offense,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: with DJ Moore being out slash banged up, we have
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: seen some of the similar struggles for the Bills offense
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: as we had in previous years, particularly last year. We've
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: also seen a lot of the same successes. Without DJ Moore,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: this offense is relatively, and I don't mean this negatively
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: or disparagingly, it's relatively the same as it was last year.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: you're going to get those YY looks or the tight end,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: an inline tight end with one hipped off him, maybe
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: another tight end hipped off of that, or, you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: kind of like a dirty or loose bunch in 11 personnel.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: The Bills are going to run duo to that side
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: out of that alignment and look, and they're going to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: run mid zone week to the other side. And that's
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: like where everything starts. And then they'll pass the ball
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: with the concepts that they lean into and kind of
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. Did it get DJ Moore? They're
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: able to stretch the field a little bit combined with
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a healthy Dalton Kincaid. But what we've seen the past
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: several weeks is Josh Allen having to rely on his
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: legs a little bit more, not finding guys open downfield.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they're being guys there and he's not pulling the trigger,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: which is something we've seen in previous years as well.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: But he's had to rely on his legs to kind
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: of get him comfortable or get him an advantageous look
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: against the defense because the initial play call isn't doing
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: it or he's He doesn't like the way the route
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: distribution has manifested against the coverage. And so he decides
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: to hold it, tries to make a play with his legs.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's stuff isn't open and things are locked down.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he just wants to create. Sometimes he's just, you know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: it's the getting the gang of Josh Allen, but his
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: legs have mattered a lot recently and kind of like a,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: an underlying story for the bills past game has been
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the lack of change or newness in terms of concepts
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: and what's getting open this year versus last year really
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: was just like, we're going to drop in a top,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: a guy at the top of the depth chart who
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: can actually play at the top of the depth chart
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and who has some juice. And if he's not there, Oh,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: what do we do? And that's what it's been the
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: past several weeks. And we should see DJ more this week.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: We'll see what capacity we see him in, how healthy
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: he is. But yeah, Alan's legs have mattered a lot
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: in terms of just getting him comfortable and also bailing
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: him out. Um, for, you know, guys aren't open. Keyon
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Coleman's great in the scramble drill. Kalil Shakir is great
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: in the scramble drill, which helps as well. And Allen's
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: always been a creator, but it's been a little bit
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: out of necessity the past several weeks with some things
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: not being open. And again, DJ Moore does change some things,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: but Allen relying on his legs against the defense that
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: has struggled with some tackling a little bit, as you mentioned.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Good matchup piece. I like that. I like that. Definitely.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: My guy, Keon Coleman, I'm glad to see him mature
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and it seems like he's been doing
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: what he's supposed to do there, bought in to this
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Joe Brady full program. And I don't know why Keon
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Coleman's not laying the wood. He was a pretty devastating
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: run blocker at times in college. And I haven't really
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: seen that on tape out of him. So that's my
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: challenge for Mr. Keon Coleman, if I'm able to put
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: one into the Cover One community here, is uh see
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: if you guys can get a little a little spark
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: under his butt get him blocking man i don't i
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: don't know what's happening he used to be able to
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: use that big wide frame those long arms and he
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: used to get up into guys get up into guys
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: necks and be able to kind of box them out
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: and grab them and put them on the ground a
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: little bit out of a straight stock block and Not
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: really seeing the oomph there. I'm glad to see him
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: really flourish as a receiver. Was really high on the
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: talent coming out of FSU. Very young player, but, man,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I want to see him do some more damage as
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: a blocker. It's a challenge I have for Mr. Coleman.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: He– I looked it up because I was trying to
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: think of the year. Yeah, so his rookie year when
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the Bills played the Seahawks in Seattle, he had a
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: couple– It was against Tariq Woolen where he like buried
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: him into the sideline and it was like rookie year.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: And it was, yeah, it was like, Ooh, I see
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you saw this on tape. This is cool. This is fun.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you didn't really see that going forward from there.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I thought we'd get more of it too this year
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: with them. I call it the Mac Collins role like that,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: that wide receiver that when you're in 11, it's really
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: 11 and a half. It was Mac Collins two years ago.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It was Tyrell Shavers last year. I was like, Keon
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Coleman should be that guy this year. It just makes sense. Um,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and instead they've kind of leaned more into like the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: tight end aspect, which makes sense. And don't kick aid
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: kind of being that third man. Um, but yeah, I mean,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Keon's got that in his bag, but watching him having
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: some success, um, as a, as, as a pass catcher
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: has just been, it's been cool to see. And there's
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: a hold on. I want to, the sample size is
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: small cause he's not the most targeted guy, but, uh,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I pulled this last night right before I pulled the
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Zay flower numbers, uh, Out of 90 qualifying wide receivers
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: with at least 100 routes run, this was going into
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: the Monday night game last night, Keon Coleman is first
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: in EPA per target at 1.07, and he's first in
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: targeted success rate at 70.8. And I know, again, the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: sample size, it skews it a bit because he's 64th
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: in targets, 52nd in target share. But just seeing him
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: have any type of production like that.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Well, it's really nice when you're not getting the ball
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: a lot for a guy to be locked in. Fair.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: So if he's producing on low volume to me for
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: a guy that has been called out, find and challenged
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: to be more focused, then I like to see that.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I like to see that means he's engaged when he
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: is getting those opportunities. I'm looking at simple PFF grades here.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I'm looking, I was like, Oh, in 2025, they had
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: him with a nice run blocking grade. It looks like
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: he had a 91 against the jets in week 18 on,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: on his highest snap count of the season after the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: week one Ravens game, actually. And then, the following week
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: in the wild card, he had his lowest of the season,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: which was a 33 PFF, you know, with a grain
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: of salt on their subjective grading. But, you know, I
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: like their stock blocking grades. It's not that too hard
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: to figure out. That's a pretty simple part of football.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: So it seems like he got pretty, pretty up with it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Week 18.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Not seeing a ton of those little PFF poppers. And
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I was a little, a little disappointed to see he's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: not turning into somewhat of a centerpiece in the perimeter,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: whether it's a blocker on screens for maybe a little
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Shakir or, on maybe some, you know, insert blocks and
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: things like that. Cause I think those are things that
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: he has the physical capability to do, which make him
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: a very valuable and unique piece. You mentioned Matt Collins.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: It's something you like Matt Collins to do. And again,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: he's guys 23 years old, still very young overall. And, um, that's,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: that's stuff that takes some experience to get really good
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: at typically. So I'd like to see him get after
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: a little more. That's my, my key on Coleman fixation
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: for the evening.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think that's fair. Um, I agree.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I do my next point. I am. I'm just going
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: to go in order with how I am listed here.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think I have many particular, or I say
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: that every time it's always a cop out. So I
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: don't have to commit myself to one. Um, this one's
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. I'm not going to get into all the
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: stats and the metrics. I did that heading into the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Raiders game two weeks ago. My second point here, I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: titled it Jim Leonard versus himself. Uh, Essentially, to kind
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: of boil it down as much as possible, what's been
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: happening for the Bills defense this year is, you know,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: we talked about miscommunication, you know, things not being simplified enough,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: you know, from Jim Leonard. But Jim Leonard also speaking
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: about it and saying, like, you know, guys are blowing
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: assignments that don't really have to do with anything being complicated.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So how do I simplify things further? Things have been
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: very messy. You got guys looking lost out there in
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: assignments that, you know, yeah, it might be new to them,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: but you still shouldn't be that lost as a football player.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Things have been ugly. The crux of all of it is,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: in my estimation, the Jim Leonard defense this year does
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: not have the traditional body types or positional archetypes that
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Leonard is accustomed to, even from his time at Wisconsin.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: And so then the response is that, well, he's an
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: NFL coach. He's got to adjust to the pieces around him.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: And I think he is. It's actually, I feel like
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: he's adjusted too much. So instead of trying to do
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: a square peg into a round hole, he's got a
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: bunch of square pegs and he's trying to make himself
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: be the round hole so he can make everything fit.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And I think he's tried to operate this defense kind
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: of with kid gloves. And some of it is out
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: of necessity. Guys aren't executing basic stuff. So how can
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: he get into his bag and get more creative. Some
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: of the creative stuff he is throwing, they're doing some
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: like non-traditional Tampa stuff a couple of weeks ago. And
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop is the cloud player. And he, he just
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: has no feel for anybody coming in around him. And that's,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: you know, coverage is blown guys get open that way.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: So I titled this Jim Leonard against himself because you're just,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: and I said this a couple of weeks ago in
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: an episode that I spoke like for an hour and
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: a half on this in, in much more detail. I
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: hate to do that for people and be like, Why
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: can't you just say it now? Why do you got
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: to plug something else? But I talked a lot about it. Essentially,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: this defense has not looked or felt like a Jim
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Leonard defense. We're not seeing the aggression. We're not seeing
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the creativity. The only thing that we're seeing is movement
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: up front. They are second in the league in stunt
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: rate at 24%. Fun fact, the Ravens are fourth at 22.8%.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: They've both been consistently top five in stunt rate all year.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: But we're not seeing a ton of simulated pressures. All
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: the hallmarks and the calling cards of a Jim Leonard
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: defense the simulated pressures, the creative stuff on third down,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: the man coverage stuff, the sound communication and match coverages,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: press and being aggressive and dictating to an offense and
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: not being a counter puncher. We are seeing literally the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: antithesis of all of those things thus far under Jim Leonard.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: And we started to see a little bit of change
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: in that against the Raiders, a little bit of a
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: coverage structure change going into that Raiders game. They were
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: pretty much just a, Cover three and a quarters defense
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: heading into that Raiders game. They were at a 36.4%
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: rate of cover three and a 22.4% rate of quarters.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: It was essentially that like, those are your buckets. You
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: were either going to get cover three or quarters versus
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the Raiders in week six. Again, their last game before
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: they went into the buy, we saw more coverage diversity
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: and more man coverage, 28.8% cover three, 25.8% cover one, 13.6%
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: cover six, 10.6% quarters and 6.1% two man. And then
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: on third down 53.8% cover one rate weeks one through five,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: they had a 12.3% cover one rate and their predominant
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: coverages on third downs weeks one through five were again,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: cover three and quarters at the top. They started to
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: change a little bit. We started to see a little
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: bit of more of the Jim Leonard stuff against the Raiders.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: My thought was, Show a little bit of that against
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: the team that you should be able to show that against.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: No disrespect to the Raiders. Go into the buy, retool, reassess,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: come out. Operating this safe way or safer has not
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: worked for you. So screw it. Let's blitz. Let's play press.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Let's go creative. Let's at least die fast instead of
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: die slow. Yes, in theory, it could get worse. You
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: could give up 40 points a game instead of 30
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: to 35. So things could always get worse. But they
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: are giving up a ton of plays a game, a
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: ton of drives per game, a ton of points. When
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: you get into the drive stats of where they are
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: in terms of score percentage and touchdown percentage defensively, it's ugly.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm pulling it up right now. Plays per drive,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills defense is last in the league. given
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: up averaging seven plays per drive. When it comes to
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: score percentage or score rate, they are 31st at 46.8%.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: When it comes to drives ending in a touchdown, they
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: are 31st at 33.9%. We literally could just go down
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: a multitude of stats and they're all not good. And
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: so if they're all not good while trying to cater
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to what you have, screw it a little bit, get
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: back to who and what you are, go down swinging
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: a bit more, change it up a little bit. And
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: so Jim Leonard versus himself, because I think he's trying
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: to adapt so hard to the players that he's handcuffed himself.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's also kind of handcuffing the players. It's
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: turned into one big mess. So that's my second point.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And I had, I had this game Mark granted. I
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: thought it was going to be Lamar. We'll see what
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: happens with Huntley, but I had it marked against an
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: offense that went healthy is a buzzsaw and has given
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: you problems for years. what can you look like coming
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: out of the buy? Cause the bills get the Ravens
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: and then it's the jets, the dolphins, the Vikings, and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: then you play the chiefs. You have an opportunity to
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: kind of course, correct and change the narrative for this
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: season a little bit. So, yeah, I think it's Jim
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Leonard versus himself figuring out what he can do, what
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: he can't do, and how he wants to go down
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: swinging and how that could maybe potentially elevate the players
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: and move this defense in a new direction that is
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: more in line with who and what he's been over
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: previous seasons.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't love Cole Bishop in his defense.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's– I look at Malachi Starks as
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: a player that Ravens drafted slightly higher. Bishop, what, a
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: second-round pick?
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, towards the end of the second there.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for safety still, you know, that's a high-pick safety
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: in my eyes. So I think, you know, looking kind
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: of safeties, linebackers, and then looking at– to me, the
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Vikings are just the most interesting defense in the NFL
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: by far. They have Harrison Smith talking about how, who
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: was it that decided four is the number you rush?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: And that's the question the Vikings have been asking themselves.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: And Vikings brought in Charlie Fry. I would recommend reading
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: the article about Charlie Fry.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was so good.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yes. Highly recommend going in and checking that out. So
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: when there's that kind of stuff going on, there's what
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald Seahawks are doing. There's what is happening. Steve
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Spagnuolo has been doing a few years. And then I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: look at Minter and I look at, I look at
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Jim Leonard here and it's like, all right, they rushed four.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they rush five, you know, 20% of the time,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: one or five times it's passed down. It's probably 40%
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: if I had to guess on, you know, third and
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: six or more. So it just feels like it's not
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: hard to figure out what the front's doing, which if
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: you're not having to worry about the front as much,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: there's not as many guys walked up today with, with
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: what sim pressure is and how many guys are getting
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: put in the box. Everybody's looking at Flores and, and,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: preparing for those types of mugged up looks and umbrella
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: looks where you can, you know, dictate how the offensive
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: pass protection slides one way or the other. I'm just
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: not seeing that being forced for either of these defenses really.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: So I think that is a part of the equation.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: That's not leading to four quarters of a quarterback having
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: to do algorithms and math in their head. And then
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator as well. And just putting more stress
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: pre-snap is not something I see out of this Bill's
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: defense a ton right now. And yeah, It's a little
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: bit static and makes the math. Football is very simple math.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: You don't need to, you know, you don't even need
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: to be good at algebra to do it, but there's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit of math. Like I've got, all right,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I want to run the ball to the right and
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: they're overloading that side. I don't have numbers over there.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Let me run the ball weak side. You know, those
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: are basic things. And I think when you're just not
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: asking an offensive line and a quarterback to sort and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: think of multiple possibilities and have to read and wait
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: and see as much, they can play fast when you
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: can play fast, you play well. So, I think, yeah,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I think both of these defenses need to figure out
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: ways to make the opposing quarterback, whether it's Huntley or
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Lamar for the Bills, whether it's Josh, well, it'll be
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen for the Bills, you know, do a little
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: bit more math up front faster and hold the ball,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: have to try and find fast answers and then being
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: able to bait them into some throws, bait them into
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: some decisions they have to make to either take a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: loss or put the ball in danger. And I just
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: don't think either of these defenses are doing enough. The Ravens,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Not forcing a high rate, for example, of tight contested
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: throats overall. I think they've gotten their hands on 23 passes.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: The Steelers have gotten their hands. They lead the NFL
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: with 46. So I have to look. I'm looking at
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: summer sports for that one. Let me see here. We've
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: got missed tackles, all this good stuff. Where's my– where
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: is it? Contested target percentage. The bill is actually forcing 19%,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: which leads the NFL– uh contested targets according to summer
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: sports and past breakups they do have 35 which is
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: the eighth most so they're getting their paws in some
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: balls uh looks like maybe deceive my subjective eyes they're
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: the ravens 27th they have 23 and they are forcing
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: a contested target on 11.6 so almost half of what
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: the bills have so forcing some contested throws there but
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: um man it's uh Good point for sure. And if
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: it's Lamar, he does that simple math pretty good to
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: figure out. It's something he processes well. So I think
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: if it's Lamar, you get a little bit of help there.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: The issue with Tyler Huntley overall, we haven't talked about
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: him much. If it is him, he really isn't an
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: accurate deep thrower. He has a little bit of an
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: atypical throwing motion. I think he started maybe eight games
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: in this time, and he didn't complete a pass over
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: 25 air yards from 2023 until I think it was
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: seven starts later. Um, so a long stretch of not
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: being able to push the ball. And again, it's, it's
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: math problems. It's space problems. It's geometry problems. When you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: feel like you're not getting threatened over top and put
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: more in the box and cause more math problems for
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: the run game for, uh, for your, your opposing offense.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: So math, math, math, Jim Leonard, if I'm Jim Leonard,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I want to make this Ravens offensive line have to sort.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: I want to do that by walking some guys up,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: even if they're just dropping out, make slides go a
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: certain way and then stunt off of it. So, um, yeah,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't seen a rule change in the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: sport in a while. We haven't really seen any schematic
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: innovation trickle up from the lower levels, the youth football world.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I think the RPO was really the last true innovation
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: we saw trickle up and offenses aren't really running RPOs
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: a ton anymore. The defenses have solved those out a
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: little bit with having some lighter bodies, the way that
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: they use their safeties and some different calls. So, um,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: to me it's, it's, you know, solving these math problems, um,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: the more complex the defense makes it when there's not
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: a rule change and they feel like they can start
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: to mess with an offense, the harder life gets, especially
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: if you're doing it with intention. So yes, man, I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: could be in for a high scoring affair. If Lamar
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: is feeling good, I don't think we're surprised there. The
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: bill should be rested. If Lamar is rested and able
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: to go, I'm not surprised to see this game, you know,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: get into the, the forties pretty easily for the total.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the total is. I haven't looked
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: by the guests. It's, Probably a waiting status. I would
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: guess it's maybe 47 and a half if I had
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: to guess.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I expect to see some points and some fireworks
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: in this one. Your third and final point for this
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: matchup here in week eight between the Bills and the Ravens.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: 54 and a half.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Yikes.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Wonder if they know something we don't about Lamar Jackson playing.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: I think they're leaning pretty heavily towards him playing there.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Three and a half points for it currently.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Fair enough.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: They usually know, and you can usually see in the spread.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Last week, they did not, though. Big jump. It was
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Ravens minus three and a half, and it flipped to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Bengals minus three and a half to start. So we
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: shall see in that regard. However, my final point here,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I've watched a little bit of the Bills' special team snaps.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. I just feel like neither
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: of these teams, Bass is a nice, consistent kicker, relatively speaking.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Now, he has been this year, as he's had the yips.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: He's been a big the subject of conversation for a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: lot of bills fans, but he has been good this year.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Fingers crossed. No jinx.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Kickers should not be a part of the sport. There
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: should be no kicking. Kickers should make $ 50 million. Uh,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I had Justin Tucker for a long time until he
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: did some nefarious activities throughout the greater Baltimore area. But, uh,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: why are kickers not paid $ 50 million a year? They
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: determine every other game. Like it's, it's crazy to me.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Like it's the stupidest part of the sport. It would
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: be like, all right, let's go. Uh, let's go play
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: a baseball game. And if the game's tied at the end,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: we're going to have the bullpen catchers do a hot
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: dog eating contest. Like it is just so outside of
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: the rest of the skillset of the guys who make
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: all the money and do all the things. Oh, NBA
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: games close. All right. We're going to see who can
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: ride horses and do a quarter mile. You know, we'll
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: get our point guards on to go jockey. It just
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense to me. So I'm not seeing
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: any crazy impact out of the return game. from the bills.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Have they been, have they been doing anything nice this season?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Ray Davis is, is effective all pro returner last year.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: He's had a couple this year. Greg Dorch gives him
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: some juice in the punt.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Maybe a little better then, but for me,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: can the Ravens do something on special teams? They, their
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: kicker is fine. He misses some, he's very bad from
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: 40 to 49 for whatever reason. I'm not a kicking specialist.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: He's very good from 50 plus. He's very good from
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: inside 40. Their punter has not been great. They have
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: really not had a ton of juice in the last week. One,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: they had a big return. Chris Moore had one return.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: They've had a couple. And then, yeah, Bills had the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: first– the opening kick against the Rams. Ray Davis took
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: it down to like the Rams, like 30. And then
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: the Bills got like three plays of negative yards and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: had to kick a field goal.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Yep. So, to me, it's like what– Let's see some
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: juice on special teams. I want to see if there's
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: some funk. For the Ravens, if it's Huntley, you've got
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: to figure out how to increase your margins here. I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: think it's being more aggressive on special teams. I think
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: it's being more aggressive on fourth down maybe than they've been.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: The Ravens have been unbelievably bad in short yardage run situations.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: They have a sub-50% success rate from third and fourth
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: and short in those power situations. And the Bills can
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: tush-push really well. So... The Ravens need to figure out
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: ways to give themselves a better margin if it's Tyler Huntley.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: And if it's Lamar Jackson, nonetheless, the Bills can put
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: up points. So to me, it's being aggressive on special teams.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: To me, it's being aggressive on fourth down. It's being
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: aggressive with the directional punting that you want to use
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: and how you want to evoke some potential return situations
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: and see. Ravens have a player, Keandre Jackson, one of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: my favorite players. I'll say he's one of my favorite Ravens,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: really of all time, getting there pretty quickly. I call
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: him the Hellcat. He wears a Guardian cap, and for
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: good reason. He is using that thing as a weapon.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: He has been a monster. He's blocked a kick. He
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: has a bunch of tackles on kick coverage. I want
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: to try and see if they can. He's a great gunner.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: He's been playing snaps at safety. One of my favorites.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: I might be getting his jersey. He does something big
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: time and I haven't bought a Jersey in a couple
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: of years. So Ravens need to figure out how to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: get a spark, whether it's on through, I guess that's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: my point. How can you get a spark? Is it
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: through aggression on fourth down? Is it through like we
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: just talked about being aggressive with your fronts, defensively mugging,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: changing pressure front, changing, you know, rotation, special teams. Can
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: you be aggressive in your, your coverage units? The bills
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: are coming off of a buy and to me are
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: going to be calculated to me. Maybe they start slow.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Teams can start slow in the first quarter coming out
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: of a bye. They might be a little, oh, my God,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: I woke up in my $ 8, 000, I'm an NFL player
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: bed that tells me the CO2 level in the room
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: and all that good stuff. Oh, la-di-da-di-da, go down to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: the stadium, got to get punched in the face a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: couple times to get the juices flowing. But for the Ravens,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's really trying to figure out how can
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: you generate a spark, a turnover on special teams, a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: bad situation for the Bills, or convert in some aggressive situations.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Ravens are hurting pretty bad right now losing two straight
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: in the AFC. They have to go to Buffalo, and
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: then they have to get the Jags on short rest
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: with their quarterback situation in flux. So to me, this
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: coaching staff needs to find a way, whether it's on
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: special teams or in decision-making, to get an edge. And
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: that's kind of my point. I don't think you can
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: go toe-to-toe with the Bills in Buffalo right now with
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: some of the shuffling the Ravens have done. And just
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: expect your players to outplay the Bills coming off of
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: a bye week. I think they need to find an edge,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: whether on special teams or through some decision-making.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Very fair. From a DVOA perspective, Baltimore Ravens are 17th
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: in special teams DVOA this year. The Buffalo Bills are second.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, they're doing it.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: They've been good on kick coverage. They've been good on
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: punt coverage. The Vikings are first because, of course, the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Vikings are just going to be amazing on defense and
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: special teams and then score 10 points a game on offense,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: and it won't matter because they're having great special teams,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: and then blitzing at an 85% clip.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Who decided? Who decided that four is the number to rush?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I love little things like that because it makes you
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: just go like, well, yeah, I mean, I guess. And
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: so it's just like, well, yeah. And it's even more
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: painful watching Vikings tape because I've liked what Flores has
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: done for so many years, even though he is an outlier.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: but watching the bills be so static and so, and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: playing so much on the back foot and then watching
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Flores just heater after heater and then like devastating change-ups
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: and curve balls and everything is just front foot, front foot,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: front foot, attack, attack, attack, live by the sword, die
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: by the sword. And they're living by it and everybody
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: else is dying. It's even more painful like watching the
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: bills and then going from there. Uh, but yeah, some,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: some good special teams for the bills kind of middling
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: for the Ravens. We'll see, uh, Yeah, we'll see if
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: that rears its head. It'll probably jinx the hell out
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: of Tyler Bass now. It'll probably miss several kicks. My
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: last point, the Buffalo Bills, 46.5% 11 personnel rate, 27.1%
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: 13 personnel rate. They have the third most plays from
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: 13 personnel in the NFL this year at 103. And
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: then their third highest personnel grouping from a usage rate
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: is 12 personnel 21.4%, but they're 24th in plays from
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: 12 personnel at 72. My third point here is what
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: heavy personnel grouping does the Buffalo Bills offense go with?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: They've got some nice metrics in 11 personnel. They are
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: a high 13 personnel usage team, 27.1% rate. Like I mentioned,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: third most plays from 13 personnel, but their numbers kind
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: of aren't great. In 13, you know, they're 15th in
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: EPA per play. They're 19th in success rate out of
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: 13 personnel. Their pass game, 22nd EPA per pass, 19th
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: in passing success rate. Run is still good, 7th in
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: EPA per rush, 14th in rushing success rate. But then
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: if you go to 12 personnel, Buffalo Bills out of
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: 12 personnel this year, 2nd in EPA per play, 2nd
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: in success rate. Pass game, still a little meh. 11th
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: in EPA per pass, 18th in passing success rate. But
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: the Bills' run game out of 12 personnel, they are
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: first in EPA per rush at positive 0.31. The Falcons
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: are second at plus 0.14. So they're more than double
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: what the Falcons are at two. Their rushing success rate
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: out of 12 personnel, 64.1%. The 49ers are second at 58.3%.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: So the Bills are just mauling and mashing out of
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: 12 personnel this year. They're also first in yards before
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: contact per rush out of 12 personnel this year at 3.36.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: And then they're second in duo rate this year out
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: of 12 personnel at 48.6%. So essentially 58% of the time.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: And again, it ties back to something I mentioned earlier
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: in terms of what they do. They're going to run
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: duo a bunch. They're running duo in mid-zone week. Those
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: are their main bread-and-butter run games. It can vary a
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: little bit based on the opponent, which one is A,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: which one is B for the week. They'll mix in
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: some other stuff, like they'll run dart or tackle wrap
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: out of gun. They might put a tight end in
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: blast motion and run some counter stuff. But any way
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: you slice it, the Buffalo Bills run game out of
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: 12 personnel is phenomenal. The Ravens run defense this year
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: when facing 12 personnel. They're 14th in EPA per rush,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: second in rushing success rate allowed, fourth in yards before
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: contact per rush allowed, and then they're 10th in explosive
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: run rate allowed at 8%. The Bills also out of
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: 12 personnel are first in explosive run rate at 19.4%.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: I see this one as kind of a good on,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: not even a kind of, I think this is a
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: good on good. the bills 13 personnel has kind of
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: been mad this year from a metric standpoint, even though
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: they use it at a high clip. I think Kyle
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Hamilton is a great equalizer when it comes to 12 personnel,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: particularly even 13 to a degree, but the fact that
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: you can go three safeties and put Hamilton down in
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: the box and then play Hawkins in the back, do
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: what you want to do with Malachi Starks. They're even
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: getting how they were getting cave on Wallace involved against
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the bangles a little bit. You got your boy counter
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Jackson back there. He's getting some snaps of that guardian cap.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I saw the 33 and the Jackson on the name.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: And I, I still keep thinking Eddie Jackson from what
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: he was with the Ravens a couple of years ago,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: even though I know like it's not, um, and their
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: body types are completely different, but I think the Ravens
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: personnel specifically Hamilton gives them a lot of good fight
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: and fire with fire. Hamilton has been a good eraser
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: for them, particularly in that Monday night game where they
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: just throttled the bills a couple of years ago. Um,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: He's such a problem because of his body type and
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: his athleticism and how he plays the game. And I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: think the metrics speak to Hamilton's usage, what he can
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: do against 12 personnel. The Ravens do have an equalizer there.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: So do the Bills. Is this a heavy 11 personnel
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: day for the Bills? Do they want to stay with
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: 13 and make the Ravens try and play with base?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: And we're trying to get Simpson and Buchanan on the
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: field along with Roquan, and then we'll see how they
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: can match up with Kincaid and or maybe Dawson Knox. Um,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: can they match with Jackson Hawes or do we see
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: an uptick in 12 this week with how successful they've
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: been out of it? Or do you kind of consider
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: it a wash because the Ravens handled 12 well, and
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: they have a good equalizer, the heavy personnel groupings, condensed formations.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: It's been a huge part of the bill's offense for
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: the past several years and match up an opponent kind
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: of dictates which one they lean into and how much. Um,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: and so that's a big one for, for me this week,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: which heavy personnel grouping do they lean into? Um, And
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: then how do they choose to attack out of it?
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Is it leaning into 13 or 12 to run to pass?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: We mix in the play action. Can we generate explosives
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: when going under play with going with play action? So
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: on and so forth, all the meta, all the things.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. The bills have only run 72 offensive
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: plays out of 12, which ranks 24th in the NFL.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, they are third in EPA. They
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: are second in EPA per play and their rushing success
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: has been really devastating out of that. So, Um, definitely a,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: a nice up your sleeve for when you need to
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: go get it. It seems like you want to go
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: into 12 on some of that mid zone and some
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: of that duo, um, seems like, you know, high leverage
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: downs in, uh, in some neutral situ neutral downs that
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: are high leverage, I would say, you know, ends of
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: halves or a third and threes, things like that. Being
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: able to go run those two and boot off of
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: it is, uh, definitely a big part of it. I'm
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: wondering how I would have to refine some of the
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: data I'm looking at. I'm wondering how much comes off
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: of scrambles, if that's been devastating or boots. um if
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: i can quickly refine uh i don't think i can
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: but curious about that one curious about what josh allen's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: done there.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Because are you on are you on sumer yep i
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: oh i wish they i'm gonna message sean site i
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: want yeah i want to be able to filter out
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: for running back carries only i want to know.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: They've got good stuff. I love it. I love their
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: UI a lot. They just need a little extra, a little,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: a little bit more.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: They've been a big go-to for me this year. I
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: know how they chart. I trust him and Tej and
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: their whole data analytics group and how they've taught their mind. Yeah.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Sumer's been a big resource for me.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent. So yeah, like you said, they, they
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: have a good bit of man run percentage. I'm guessing
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: that's the duo. If I had to guess, I don't
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: think they're running. a ton of power at all whatsoever. So, um, yeah, very,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: very interesting point you make there. Like you said, Hamilton
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: big on it. Uh, the Ravens did use a little
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: bit more base against the Falcons. Uh, definitely, which is
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: mentor does not like to have to do that. He
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: likes to stay in his nickel. He likes to have
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton there. However, Jalen Hawkins out, you talked about
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Keandre Jackson. So I, uh, I guess my controversial take
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: is I like when Kyle Hamilton plays in the post
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: and in the deep half.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Man, It's such a I get it like the length
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: and the size and what he is at the box.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: But I also like how that length and size and
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: athleticism plays deep. And yeah, playing top down, we can
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: get to some cool. Let's make him that top down
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: like robber, like slash, you know, quote unquote, pole runner
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: and some nontraditional Tampa stuff. Let's let him just play
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: as a single high post safety. I echo those sentiments
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: very much so.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he does it really well, and I
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: call him the Millennium Falcon. He just looks like a
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: big old spaceship running around out there covering up some space. So,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: you know, Stark's a highly drafted player. Hawkins, they're getting
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: comfortable with. But you've got somebody who's like 6'5, the
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: 83-inch wingspan that knows what he's doing back there. It
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: really can reduce the margin for error. Plus, he's physical. Plus,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: he's clean technically. So, yeah, I am curious there for sure.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Teddy Buchanan coming off of an ACL, you'd mentioned him.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: They're trying to integrate him a good bit. He's had
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks to get a couple of snaps
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: in Trenton Simpson playing really well. So yeah, not something
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: that's given the Ravens a ton of trouble. Um, they've
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: been able to stuff a good bit of runs out
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: of 12 personnel with nickel. Um, so certainly, uh, that
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: is the, the bill's kind of secret weapon with a
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: 19 estimated points added there on only 72 snaps. That's
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: pretty darn good. And when you go look at the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: run game at 64%, that's, uh, you know, that's Shaq
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: being able to go get a bucket down in the post.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: It feels like if you can run at that rate
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: out of that personnel with that amount of success, it's
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: not something they're doing all the time. Kind of feels like, Hey, we,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: we need a bucket here. Let's see if we can
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: get a Tracy McGrady to pull up or, or Steph
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: to run around a screen and we're going to go
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: get it there. So I think that's something they like
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: to rely on. If I had to guess a little
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: bit more high leverage situations and not let you get
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: comfortable with it. So, um, Yeah, interesting that they've only
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: run 72 plays there. The Raiders up at 223, which
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: makes sense because they like Mr. Bowers and Mr. Mayer
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: there as fixtures in their pass game. So definitely, definitely
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. Ravens fifth there, 137. So, yeah,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: heavier personnel.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to me, like that's– I've talked about
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: how there's not a schematic change, and I think the
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: Swifties– My grand conspiracy is that Taylor Swift and Travis
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: Kelsey are a psy-op to increase youth participation in football.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: And if there was a demographic that didn't have their
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: kids putting helmets on, it was probably Swifties. And we're
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: going to see the great era of tight ends in
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: about 15 years here. And the Swifties are going to
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: have a lot of tight ends enter the atmosphere. But, man, Kincaid,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: a player I like a lot. And, yeah, I think–
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: a key there to ultimately go get a bucket. If
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: you need one, when you need one is going to
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: be running that mid zone, running that duo and booting
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: off of it. They're going to have to go tackle
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen in a key moment in this game, whether
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Bill's run away with it, if it's Huntley and it's
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: in the first half or whether it's in the second half.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: So let's watch out for a little boot slide, a
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: little something like that, or something funky out of 12
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: personnel from the bills to try and Gain the upper hand,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: take the leverage, ice the game, things like that. I
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: think that's my best shot at being Nostradamus in this one,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: my friend.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I've kept you far too long.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give you the floor. The floor is yours.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Tell anybody and everybody where they can find you, what
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: you do, anything and everything you got. The floor is yours.
• 1:23:08
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• 1:23:11
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• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: theory here. This is for your listeners. Are you a
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: ball knower? Do you know ball? I'm going to ask
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: you a question. This is going to go out to
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: the chat here. I have a theory that 98% of
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: fantasy football playing, NFL Sunday watching gentlemen in this esteemed nation,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: could not go properly onto a peewee football field and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: line up a group of 11 nine-year-olds to legally run
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: an offensive play. So if you fancy yourself a ball knower, well,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: the ball has to be snapped. There's got to be
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: a center. You got to be set, right? A couple
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: of those things, motion. You can have one guy. He
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: has to be run backwards. But there's two requirements that
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: must be satisfied by an offense in order to be
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: legal or lined up correctly and set. If you fancy
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: yourself a ball knower, I'm looking for two answers. Both
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: of them are a number. Something has to happen around
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. So I'm going to give you
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: a moment to ask yourself that, whether you're watching that live,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: whether you're watching this after the fact. Don't look it up.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Don't cheat on yourself. I'll give you a beat. What
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: do you need to satisfy? Well, if you're ready for
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: the answer, it's got to be seven guys on the
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Five of them have to be ineligible.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: They're ineligible because of their jersey number in the NFL,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: different youth football. But those two things. If you don't
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: know those two things, come to Baltimore Film Breakdown. We're doing,
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  Speaker 2: Learn about the game. Walter Ford nailed it. Seven players
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: on the line. And James doesn't do fantasy. We've got
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: some ball knowers here. I think James, I think Aunt P,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: I think you guys could go on a peewee field
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: and get guys lined up. That's a ball knower to me.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: You are a ball knower. Your audience seems to be
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: some ball knowers. I think you guys have a, a very, very,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: very nice, uh, thing going here at cover one. We
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: love it. We, uh, I'll throw a one pie pizza. Go, go,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: go get it. Go get a nice little, go get
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: a nice little pie for him. Appreciate you having me on,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: but yeah, Baltimore film breakdown.com. If you want to learn more, Hey,
• 1:25:15
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• 1:25:17
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• 1:25:21
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• 1:25:23
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• 1:25:25
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• 1:25:28
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• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: How do you go get guys lined up? How do
• 1:25:32
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• 1:25:34
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• 1:25:37
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• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great resource. And not to mention
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: all the high-level stuff you do. But that's a great point, too. Yeah,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: there's so many. Yeah, find out why. In this particular instance,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: why an offensive lineman is walking up and pointing to
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: the ref and doing this to their jersey.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Why is the receiver asking the ref something, pointing a
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: thumbs up? Yep.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Why is, you know, somebody going in motion and somebody
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: stepping up closer to the line and yep, looking at
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: the ref and yeah, you can go even further and
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: know why everybody thought Jawan Taylor was offsides at right
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: tackle every single snap for the chiefs a couple of
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: years ago because of where his helmet was lined up
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: in relation to the ball.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: And the rest of the line. Found a little advantage there.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: But I think you've got a great, great host here
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: in Ant who's going to be able to educate you.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Ask those kinds of questions, man. When you guys are,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Consuming all this football, asking questions, some basic stuff. These
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: guys love to talk about it, I promise, over at
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Cover One. So learn about the game a little bit more.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Learn about the foundation. If you can go help out,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: go help youth football. Go help youth football. If you've
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: got a couple hours a week, see if you can
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: go help out in peewee or flag football. And if
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: you love the game, learn about it a little bit.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Ask these guys questions. Go help out at your local
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: rec center. Go help out anywhere you can to keep
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: growing the game. Love football, man.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love football. That was a nice one. Nice sentiment.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Nice sentiment, and I appreciate the kind words from me.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time. Enjoy the rest of
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: your Tuesday. Godspeed. I will see you around the Twitterverse.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I will DM you after this to sing your praises
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: some more, and thank you again in formal fashion and
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: with words. But, yeah, I appreciate you as always. It's
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: a nice tradition we've created here. Enjoy your Tuesday. I'll
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: see you around.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Go Ravens. Godspeed.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Mr. Spencer Schultz on Twitter only, I believe, at Ravens4. Dummies.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Good guy. Knows his stuff. Elaborates a lot. Don't be uncovered.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: That's fair. That is fair. Yeah. That's a good point, too.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Those little nuances.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: How many on the line? Who has to be eligible?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Who's not? All those little positional aspects of football, I think,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: that are things that can get lost from time to time.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: You know what should not get lost? The website address
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: for One Pie Pizza. The phone number. for one pie pizza.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: The reason you shouldn't lose that information is because it
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: is the best pizza in Buffalo, New York. I do
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: not say that lightly. I do not say that because
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: they sponsor the show. They sponsor the show because I
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: sincerely believe one pie pizza is the best pizza in Buffalo,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: New York. RJ, I believe is still here watching live
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: in the chat. RJ knows firsthand. RJ has come in
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: from Rochester multiple times. He's gotten one pie pizza because
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: we talk about it on the show. He thought it
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: was absolutely phenomenal. RJ is a lot more creative than me.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a simple man. Appreciate the acknowledgement of my smoothness
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: in the chat. Thank you very much. I'm a simple
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: man when it comes to pizza, cheese and pepperoni, and
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: a cup of blue cheese. I'm good to go. Uh,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: I will get the cover one pizza that they named
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: after us at one pie, the cover one, Alan goat,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: you know, got some cover one to it. It's got
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: some Josh Allen to it and a whole bunch of deliciousness.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: I am, but I'm a simple guy. RJ likes to do,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: you know, he's putting some honey on stuff. He's getting
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: different toppings on it. He's, he's a lot more creative.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: You can get as creative as you want. You can
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: keep it simple, whatever you do. You will sincerely not
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: be disappointed. Yes, RJ says he's going to try the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: buffalo chicken pizza next. And that is phenomenal. Again, everything
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: they do is phenomenal. Even their salads are good. I
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: hate salad. It's just leaves. Like, I'm not a rabbit.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just eat leaves. But even their
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: salads are good. Like, it's just so good. They do
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: breakfast pizzas that are phenomenal. We've got Toys for Tots
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: coming up. in November with them. Holidays are around the corner.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: You folks know how much I love Christmas as evidenced
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: by the fact that I have a Christmas tree up
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: all year round and I decorate it with different holiday things.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: But I love the holidays, but I also recognize that
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: the holidays are not sometimes the most joyous times for
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: some people. So I'm big on donations and gift giving
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: in whatever form or fashion you can do. So I
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: love that One Pie does a massive, massive Toys for
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Tots drive every year. We have a lot of cool
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: things to tie into this year's Toys for Tots in
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: terms of Prizes for those of you who bring in toys.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: So I'll be talking about that in the coming weeks
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: and coming month. But yeah, get yourself some one-pie pizza.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: They're really good people making really good food. You know,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: get yourself some pizza for the Thursday night football game,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: for the Bills game on Sunday, some Saturday college football stuff,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: or any other day of the week. You will not
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: be disappointed. RJ says, it's still my favorite pizza was
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: that pepperoni, hot honey, and ricotta drizzle. That is the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: best pizza combo I have ever had. RJ sent me
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: a picture when he got it. He tagged me on Twitter.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: It looked absolutely phenomenal. Yeah, you can't go wrong. You
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: can get something creative. You can doctor it up however
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: you want it. You can order online. You can call
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: them on the phone. You can get the regular standard
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: pie of any kind or, yeah, kind of create your own.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: And whatever you have them do, they will do it
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: with effort and creativity and quality. Just everything they do
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: is phenomenal. So get yourself some one pie pizza if
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: you have not already ordered. You will not be disappointed.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to throw up the banner. This is to
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: those folks because we're going to start to wind down
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: and say goodbye. I am looking to do a bonus
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: episode this week. I did not do an episode last
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: week due to scheduling conflicts in life. Not in a
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: bad way. Just couldn't get to it. I wanted to
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: do something at the back end of last week. I
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: did not. So I'm looking to do a bonus episode.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: this week in terms of focusing on what we need
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: to and should hope to see from the bills defense
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: coming out of the buy. I'm probably going to record
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: it offline, a little shorter form, 20 to 30 minutes.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: I always say that. And then I talk too much.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: It ends up being 45 to an hour. I'm looking
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: to drop that at the back end of this week.
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