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EPSTEIN BRAGGED: I BLACKMAILED POWERFUL MEN, CLIENT LIST MYSTERY · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein bragged, I blackmailed powerful men and we can't
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Speaker 2: come up with a client list.
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Speaker 1: I guess that's one way to put it.
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Speaker 2: A client list, powerful and wealthy clients that abuse little
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Speaker 2: girls like Virginia Giffrey. This as we also learn that
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Speaker 2: between Virginia Geoffrey and Jeffrey Epstein, they have brought.
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Speaker 1: Down the royal family.
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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Thousands and thousands and
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Speaker 2: thousands of pages of files.
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Speaker 3: They couldn't quote a suicide because it looks too much
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Speaker 3: like a homicide.
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Speaker 1: This you say, cover of us. If it's proportions.
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Speaker 3: They're trying to make your look like the suicide.
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Speaker 4: If he was never making it out alive.
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Speaker 2: All of you naysayers, all of you doubters who don't
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Speaker 2: believe Virginia Giffray's story Israel, guess what word on the street.
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Speaker 2: Prince Andrew is going to be summoned to the US
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Speaker 2: to testify, to testify regarding Epstein's so called client list.
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Speaker 1: Now look at this picture.
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Speaker 2: He's said he has never met Virginia Giffrey, that he's
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Speaker 2: never been in Jelaine Maxwell's home. That was a fake hand.
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Speaker 2: He's got wrapped around that teen girl. And it goes
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Speaker 2: on and on and on. In the last days as
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Speaker 2: we go to air tonight, bombshell out of the Blue.
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Speaker 1: Wow, what timing?
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Speaker 2: Virginia Giffray's book drops posthumously. Yes, she committed suicide. There's
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Speaker 2: Nobody's girl. And coincidentally, the night before ish the book drops,
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Speaker 2: Andrew gets stripped of all of his titles.
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Speaker 1: Timing, timing, timing. You know, I've got so much to cover.
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Speaker 2: But right there, I've got to go straight out to
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Speaker 2: p R Guru joining Us, Rob Shooter.
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Speaker 1: He is the guru to the celebs and he's from
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Speaker 1: Great Britain. What about that?
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Speaker 2: Your Prince Andrew is getting listen. I really don't know
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Speaker 2: how to say it, but he They're going to try
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Speaker 2: to summon him to the US.
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Speaker 1: You know, Royalty doesn't like to be summoned anywhere.
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Speaker 2: All around the timing of this book dropping, Rob Shooter,
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Speaker 2: host of Naughty but Nice.
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Speaker 1: He is the author of a.
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Speaker 2: Brand new novel. It started with a whisper, and it's
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Speaker 2: climbing up the charts for a good reason. He's at
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Speaker 2: robshooter dot substack dot substack dot com. Rob Pandemonium in
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Speaker 2: Buckingham Palace because of Virgin Jr. Frey who was abused
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Speaker 2: by Epstein.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is a bombshell. This book has literally
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Speaker 5: blown the roof of a story that we know about
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Speaker 5: for some time. However, having it in her own words,
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Speaker 5: there's the book in her own words, it's absolutely shocking.
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Speaker 5: I've got hold of a book. I've been pouring through
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Speaker 5: it over the last twenty four hours, and let me
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Speaker 5: be honest here, there are not many new accusations about
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Speaker 5: Prince Andrew in the book. However, to have them all
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Speaker 5: together in one place, told through her voice she's no
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Speaker 5: longer with us, It's almost like she's talking to us
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Speaker 5: Nancy from the grave. To have all that together in
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Speaker 5: one book, it's devastating. He's already lost his titles. He's
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Speaker 5: still a prince, he's no longer the Duke of York,
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Speaker 5: and he's no longer his royal heart.
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Speaker 1: It excuse me, you know, he's lost all his titles.
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Speaker 2: He's living ret free, and the royal lodge of his
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Speaker 2: others die. May she rist in peace. I want to
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Speaker 2: hear about any of his suffering. Virginia Jeffrey, you know what,
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Speaker 2: straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me. She is the
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Speaker 2: founder and director of Lynn's Warriors, dedicated to ending sex
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Speaker 2: abuse and exploitation of girls and women. Prince Andrew, he
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Speaker 2: should be out making a living like everybody else and
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Speaker 2: quit living off the royal dime the taxpayers.
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Speaker 1: After this, he should actually be in jail. That's where
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Speaker 1: he should be.
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Speaker 2: And he's whining his getting stripped of his titles. Virginia
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey and others lived a lifetime of torment, of suffering
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Speaker 2: because of Jeffrey Epstein and his clients.
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Speaker 3: Finally, Nancy, I have spent a day on Capitol Hill.
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Speaker 3: We are getting ready for a lot that is going
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Speaker 3: to drop because it's survivors and victims. Not only have
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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein, all around our country were waiting for some
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Speaker 3: sort of closure on all of this accountability. And you
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Speaker 3: know what, they were fatigue, they were angry. But you
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Speaker 3: know what, with this book, there's new interest on let's
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Speaker 3: see those in charge, those of wealth and power. So
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Speaker 3: we are in Washington. We are demanding transparency. We are
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Speaker 3: demanding that Prince whatever his title is now Andrew be
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Speaker 3: brought before everybody to give us a clear picture. We
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Speaker 3: know Virginia Duffrey was never lying. She was made out
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Speaker 3: to be crazy, she was made out to be depressed,
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Speaker 3: she was made out to be just cast aside. And
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Speaker 3: you know what, people knew about all of this for years,
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Speaker 3: for decades. But finally that picture of her with Prince
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Speaker 3: Andrew with his hand around her, Midri, he Bear, Midric
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Speaker 3: and Glane in the pictures that came forward during that
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Speaker 3: need to movement, and it just sparked a movement. But
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Speaker 3: now what we're waiting for. We're waiting for names. And
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why we're waiting for names, because there
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Speaker 3: are a lot behind the scenes. There is a list.
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Speaker 3: We know the list. We've seen the list. We can't
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Speaker 3: prove it, but we want those names brought forward in
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Speaker 3: front of Congress and demand accountability for all survivors and victims. Again,
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Speaker 3: not only have Jeffrey Epstein and Gallinne Maxwell, all the
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Speaker 3: other complicit people involved. This is a good.
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Speaker 1: Day, you know what.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of all the other complicit people involved, joining us
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Speaker 2: is Barry Levine. He is the author of The Spider
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Speaker 2: Inside the Tangled Web of Jeffrey Epstein and Julane Maxwell.
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Speaker 2: He's a veteran investigative reporter and editor in print and TV.
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Speaker 1: Barry, you know what, that.
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Speaker 2: Picture completely schees me out. And I think Juri would
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Speaker 2: feel the same way, because can I see the picture
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Speaker 2: of Andrew with his hand wrapped around eighteen girl Virginia
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Speaker 2: a danity and girl Virginia Jeffrey?
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Speaker 1: Because what is so off putting?
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Speaker 2: Look how everybody's smiling like it's all okay.
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Speaker 1: Look at Julie Maxwell smiling. It's raw. It's as if
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Speaker 1: it's okay, it's accepted. It's not.
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Speaker 2: And why is it it takes a book like this
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Speaker 2: and the victims marching on Washington.
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Speaker 1: To get the client list. I don't get it, Levine.
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Speaker 6: Listen, Nancy, the book was so difficult to go through
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Speaker 6: because even though I had gone through thousands of pages
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Speaker 6: of deposition documents or papers and other confidential information about
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Speaker 6: Virginia's story, hearing her in her own words was so revolting.
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Speaker 6: As a father, It just absolutely disgusted me. And what
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Speaker 6: disgusted me even more, Nancy, was her disclosure in the
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Speaker 6: book that the FBI sat down with her in twenty
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Speaker 6: eleven and they showed her photos of all the men
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Speaker 6: that she had referenced. I had count eleven men that
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Speaker 6: she referenced in her book. What happened after that FBI
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Speaker 6: interview in Sydney, Australia. What actions were taken by the
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Speaker 6: FBI to coroborate her stories and to interview these men.
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Speaker 6: We don't know that that information, that confidential information is
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Speaker 6: likely sitting in the FBI files that the government is
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Speaker 6: still refusing to release after saying that there was no blackmail,
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Speaker 6: that there was no clientless.
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Speaker 1: It is ludicrous.
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Speaker 6: We need to find out what action was taken by
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Speaker 6: the FBI to coroborate her stories. I named the men
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Speaker 6: in my book. I went through each of them. Many
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Speaker 6: of them I named under legal threat legal letters that
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Speaker 6: I received in my publisher receiver. But the fact of
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Speaker 6: the matter is these men, three of them are dead.
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Speaker 6: But the remaining men need to be subpoenaed by the
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Speaker 6: government by the Oversight Committee. They need to be brought
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Speaker 6: forward and answer questions as to what their relationship with what.
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Speaker 2: It's so disturbing and I'm going to throw this to
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Speaker 2: Elena Sharrazzi, joining US senior political reporter with Dailymail dot Com,
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Speaker 2: who has been on this from the very beginning. Elena Sharozzi,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. You know, I was
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Speaker 2: just hearing Barry Levine talking about getting these legal threat
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Speaker 2: letters from the people he named in the book lawsuit
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Speaker 2: fat chance not happening? Why because Levine could go to
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Speaker 2: court and call them. Unlike in a criminal case, when
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Speaker 2: you cannot call a criminal defendant, you can call the target.
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Speaker 2: In a civil case, Levin could walk into court if
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Speaker 2: they sued him, and the first thing.
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Speaker 1: He would could could do is call the alleged.
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Speaker 2: Person on the client list and put them on the
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Speaker 2: stand and cross examine them as a hostile witness. You
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Speaker 2: think they're going to sign up for that. That's not happening,
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Speaker 2: Elena Shirazzi. What's happening? Has Virginia phrase book? Nobody's girl
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Speaker 2: moved the dial at all?
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Speaker 1: What do I have to do stick at Dynamite.
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Speaker 2: Under Bondi's rear end to get this client list? Because
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Speaker 2: there is a client list?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean in Amy Wallace said the Ghost Rita,
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Speaker 7: she calls it a catalog of horrors, And I mean
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Speaker 7: as for the people involved, she did mention right in
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Speaker 7: the book a former prime minister, and if you look
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Speaker 7: at the document dumps. It actually does mention former Israeli
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Speaker 7: a prime minister, hud Barock, and well, Emmy Wallace says
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Speaker 7: she can't exactly rebuild the names for several reasons, right
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Speaker 7: because Virginia she wanted to protect, you know, just her sanity,
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Speaker 7: her children. There's a lot of reasons as to why,
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Speaker 7: you know, when people say, well, why don't you just
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Speaker 7: release all of the names, she just wanted to be
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Speaker 7: okay for a minute, she was obviously struggling. She committed
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Speaker 7: suicide before this book came out, so she was just
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Speaker 7: looking for a little bit of that sanity. But as
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Speaker 7: you just with the pieces together, you can see some
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Speaker 7: of these names start to come to fruition. And a congress, right,
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Speaker 7: I mean Prince Andrew, so much information has come out
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Speaker 7: about him. Representative Stephen Lanche told the BBC that the
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Speaker 7: House Oversight Committee is going to be questioning him. They're
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Speaker 7: interested in hearing from him. So we certainly see a
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Speaker 7: lot of this start to unravel, and I think that
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Speaker 7: it's only a.
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Speaker 1: Matter of time before all of this comes out. President
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Speaker 1: Trump said he campaigned on this.
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Speaker 7: He said that he would release the Epstein files, he
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Speaker 7: would release the list so people are still waiting for
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Speaker 7: that to happen, and Maxwell is still sitting pretty in
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Speaker 7: this nice prison hoping for a pardon from the president.
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Speaker 1: You know what, I want to follow up on what
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Speaker 1: you're saying.
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Speaker 2: For some reason, the client list, the files have not
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Speaker 2: been made public, and I was hoping, against hope that
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Speaker 2: the publication of Jeffrey's book would.
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Speaker 1: Move the need on that happening.
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Speaker 2: To Spencer Couvin joining as chief legal officer Gold Law,
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Speaker 2: who has represented at least nine Epstein victims. Your clients
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Speaker 2: know the names or the names of some of the
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Speaker 2: people that abuse them, nine now adult women.
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Speaker 1: And as I've told many mini juries.
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Speaker 2: Look at all these people testifying against him. You think
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Speaker 2: they all got together, separated in time and space, and
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Speaker 2: made up an.
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Speaker 1: Incredibly similar story.
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Speaker 2: The same thing happened every time they get called to
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Speaker 2: the mansion, They get told they're going to give them
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Speaker 2: massage to Jeffrey Epstein, They meet with Gilain Maxwell, Maxwell
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Speaker 2: goes in the room with them. Maxwell's strips Epstein's naked,
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Speaker 2: same story, over and over.
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Speaker 1: You know what, if that was my.
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Speaker 2: Child, I swear I would burn down the courthouse because
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Speaker 2: nothing is being done.
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Speaker 1: What about your clients, nine of them.
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Speaker 2: Last count that know the names of their predators. Why
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Speaker 2: have they not been released? Why aren't you releasing them?
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Speaker 8: Well, that's a very good question, but the more important
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Speaker 8: question is why hasn't the government released them? My clients, Now,
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Speaker 8: this dates back to two thousand and seven when I
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Speaker 8: first started representing these young girls. We're going on almost
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Speaker 8: twenty years where this investigation began, and back then my
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Speaker 8: clients interviewed with the FBI and gave them all of
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Speaker 8: the information.
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Speaker 4: Now, you've got to understand, these young girls fifteen sixteen
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Speaker 4: years old at the time, were surveiled and harassed ruthlessly
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Speaker 4: by the Epstein team. Epstein hired private investigators to follow
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Speaker 4: them around in vans and trucks, take pictures of them,
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Speaker 4: interview their family members, interview their boyfriends about sexual positions
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Speaker 4: that they had done in their life. These girls are petrified,
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Speaker 4: even though Epstein is dead. They are so afraid because
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Speaker 4: the system has let them down time and time and
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Speaker 4: time again over these almost twenty years. So as a result,
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Speaker 4: they're relying on the federal government to do their job.
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Speaker 4: And more importantly, as I've always said, the information is
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Speaker 4: contained not just in the list but more importantly, in
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Speaker 4: the videotapes that the government has seized at all three
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Speaker 4: mansions at.
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Speaker 1: Episode can Cavean.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to circle back because you didn't answer, You
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Speaker 2: sidestepped it. Why is it that you and your clients
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Speaker 2: do not release the list of your clients' predators.
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Speaker 1: Just just give me an answer. What is it?
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Speaker 8: They're scared, they're petrified for their lives if they release
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Speaker 8: any enditions.
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Speaker 2: Hold on, there's another way to get this list, man,
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Speaker 2: there's another way to get list. I don't expect the
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Speaker 2: list to be lying there in gold leaf.
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Speaker 1: You have to read the files.
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Speaker 2: You and I have come through enough boxes of documents. Boy,
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Speaker 2: when I was a fed I lived coming through boxes
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Speaker 2: and documents. And from those documents you get names. It
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Speaker 2: could be on an email, it could be on a
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Speaker 2: phone log. It could be on a flight log. It
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Speaker 2: could be communications back and forth. It could be an
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Speaker 2: appointment book where you get names. That's the client list.
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Speaker 2: The names are there. There's no way the names are
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Speaker 2: not there. Your client's no names. The women that are
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Speaker 2: marching on Washington no names. But yet nothing is happening.
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Speaker 2: You know what's very interesting? Back to Barry Levine, hold
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Speaker 2: on Dr Bethany. I'm coming Barry Levine right now. There
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Speaker 2: is an Arizona congress person. She won in September. But
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Speaker 2: they are refusing. Washington is refusing the Speaker.
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Speaker 1: Of the House.
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Speaker 2: You don't like what I'm saying, Speaker, come and get me.
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Speaker 2: The Speaker of the House refuses to swear her in.
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Speaker 2: Why because she is going to vote for the files
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Speaker 2: to be released. She hasn't been sworn in. It's almost November.
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Speaker 2: She was elected duly elected in September. And I don't
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Speaker 2: care what she is if she's a Republican, a Democrat,
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Speaker 2: a Greeney don't care. They are keeping her out from
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Speaker 2: being sworn in because she is going to cast that
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Speaker 2: vote for the Epstein files to be produced.
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Speaker 6: It's absolutely correct, Nancy. They're trying to sweep this under
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Speaker 6: the rug, but it just won't go away. And in fact,
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Speaker 6: we know that Representative Thomas Massey, who's a Republican who's
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Speaker 6: been pushing to get these files released, he said that
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Speaker 6: he knows the names of nineteen men. Okay, so Virginia.
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Speaker 6: Virginia cited eleven men in her book. He knows the
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Speaker 6: names of eight additional men. We now have a list
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Speaker 6: at least he do, of nineteen men. Why isn't the
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Speaker 6: FBI all over this? Why isn't BONDI directing the FBI?
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Speaker 6: Cash could tell to go through those nineteen names, for
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Speaker 6: God's sakes, bring We know three of them are dead,
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Speaker 6: and maybe some of the eight that he referenced could
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Speaker 6: be dead also. But the fact is those that remain
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Speaker 6: alive need to be brought in. They need to be questioned,
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Speaker 6: and they need to have the heat turned up on
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Speaker 6: them as to what their relationship was with Virginia, with
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Speaker 6: Jeffrey Epstein, with Maxwell.
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Speaker 1: You know what, I'd also like to find out.
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Speaker 2: I'd like to find out not only the names of
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Speaker 2: these predators that aren't rolling in money, power, prestige, that
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Speaker 2: have been living their lives like nothing happened, Doctor Bethony Marshall.
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Speaker 2: They're that arrogant, They're that convinced they'll get away with it,
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Speaker 2: and so far they have and I'd like to know.
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Speaker 2: And I guess it's going to take a Watergate type proceeding.
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Speaker 1: To find out what's been.
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Speaker 2: Said in Washington that has stymied this investigation.
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Speaker 9: You know, Nancy, this whole group psychology is like the
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Speaker 9: family where a little girl's being molested. Mommy looks the
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Speaker 9: other way because she wants to hang onto the love
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Speaker 9: of daddy. In this case, mommy being the government, daddy
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Speaker 9: being all these rich, powerful men, the little girl being
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Speaker 9: Virginia Jeffries.
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Speaker 1: You know what's so sad.
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Speaker 9: What I read in this book is that she was
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Speaker 9: molested by her own dad when she worked at Mira Lago.
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Speaker 9: She was so excited to have this new job. Gilan
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Speaker 9: Maxwell Waltz is in looking All Fancy promises her to
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Speaker 9: learn massage. In that very same day she's listed, Do
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Speaker 9: you don't, Nancy. She was so brutalized on the Lolita
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Speaker 9: Express that she feared for her life. This is not
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Speaker 9: just sexual abuse like giving oral sex or being penetrated
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Speaker 9: or fondled. This is older, rich, powerful men and women
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Speaker 9: brutalizing her. I think we really need to cast a
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Speaker 9: spotlight on that. This is sadism, This is cruelty, This
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Speaker 9: is beating her up.
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Speaker 2: We keep staying back in her sex tracks with Bethany.
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Speaker 2: It was tolerated, it was condoned, it was encouraged. And
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Speaker 2: can't you imagine Jeffrey and so many other girls like her,
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Speaker 2: teen girls as young as twelve at Lolita Island with Epstein.
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Speaker 2: You couldn't get off the island. You can only get
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Speaker 2: there by a fairy With all of these old guys,
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Speaker 2: can you imagine if they're smiling for the camera that
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Speaker 2: it's all okay?
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Speaker 1: Imagine the environment right there in that compound.
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Speaker 9: You know, Nancy, the word sex trafficking and sex abuse
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Speaker 9: has almost lost its meaning. We've used it so many times,
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Speaker 9: so let's use another word. Gang rape, gang brutality, torture,
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Speaker 9: mob violence. These are also very salient words. You know
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Speaker 9: that that picture where Prince Andrew has his hand around
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Speaker 9: her waist. Do you know that Gillan Maxwell told Jeffries
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Speaker 9: that morning, this is going to be a great day.
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Speaker 9: This is according to the book. Get up, this is
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Speaker 9: going to be a great day. You're going to meet
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Speaker 9: a prince. She was so excited because she bought into
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Speaker 9: the fairy tale. So she brought her little point and
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Speaker 9: shoot camera and she said to Gillan Maxwell, will you
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Speaker 9: take a picture of us? Poor little thing. She thought
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Speaker 9: she was meeting a prince who would treat her like
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Speaker 9: a princess. And Gilan Maxwell then plays a game that
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Speaker 9: she did with all the perpetrators. Can you guess how
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Speaker 9: old for Jenna Jeffries is according to the book and Drew.
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Speaker 9: Prince Andrew replies seventeen. I know because I have girls
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Speaker 9: who are just a little bit younger. So all of
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Speaker 9: this they didn't know how old the girls were. They
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Speaker 9: did because Gilan Maxwell loved the game of guessing the
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Speaker 9: girls ages before they were raped, tortured, and penetrated.
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Speaker 10: Virginia writes she was instructed to have sex with Prince
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Speaker 10: Andrew on three separate occasions. Maxwell told her their first
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Speaker 10: meeting would be just like Cinderella, though.
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Speaker 1: Virginia says Andrew behaved.
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Speaker 10: Like it was his birthright to have sex with her,
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Speaker 10: though they only spent about thirty minutes together behind closed doors.
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Speaker 1: Virginia repeats the claim Andrew visited.
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Speaker 10: Her in New York just a month later, and also
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Speaker 10: describes a third orgy on Epstein's Island with the Prince
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Speaker 10: and other young girls.
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Speaker 1: Release the files.
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Speaker 8: Teens of thousands of documents related to f saying are
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Speaker 8: refusing to release.
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Speaker 9: No, we've got the administration telling us look the other way.
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Speaker 1: We got orange blops.
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Speaker 9: We got a guy who looks like you know, he
22:05
Speaker 9: supposedly killed himself with orange paper towels.
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Speaker 1: Please.
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Speaker 2: In the last days, Virginia Giffrey's book Nobody's Girl has
22:14
Speaker 2: been released. Will it make a difference? We earlier heard
22:18
Speaker 2: it guest describing her suicide. But you know what too,
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Speaker 2: Elina Scherazzi, joining a senior reporter with dailymail dot Com.
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Speaker 1: There are estimates.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I've counted six people that committed
22:31
Speaker 2: suicide connected to Epstein, including Epstein, Giffrey, Epstein's supplier out
22:39
Speaker 2: of France.
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke Brunelle.
22:42
Speaker 2: He committed suicide much like Epstein, behind bars several of
22:47
Speaker 2: the child trafficking victims, and doctor Bethany and Lynn Shaw
22:51
Speaker 2: can explain why victims adult victims of child sex abuse
22:57
Speaker 2: go on to commit suicide.
22:59
Speaker 1: But it's quite the coincidence.
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Speaker 2: Don't you think that so many people just before they
23:05
Speaker 2: are to testify, commit suicide. I feel like I'm in
23:10
Speaker 2: Russia and someone's going to get thrown out the window
23:14
Speaker 2: or poisoned just before their testimony. You just heard Spencer Couvin,
23:20
Speaker 2: who is a high profile lawyer, chief legal officer Gold Law,
23:24
Speaker 2: who represents going on twelve of the child victims of Epstein.
23:29
Speaker 1: Saying they're afraid they should be.
23:32
Speaker 2: Afraid the victims are dropping like flies, Elena.
23:38
Speaker 1: I mean you always say timing, timing, timing, right, Nancy, I.
23:41
Speaker 7: Always hear you see that, and you have to think
23:43
Speaker 7: about that. The timing of these suicides certainly is something
23:47
Speaker 7: to be examined for these young girls who have just
23:49
Speaker 7: been through so much for so many key figures involved
23:53
Speaker 7: were obviously keeping an eye as well on Gillne Maxwell
23:55
Speaker 7: to see what happens to her in that Texas prison
23:58
Speaker 7: which has a ton a ton of security, but also
24:02
Speaker 7: the timing of other things like Prince Andrew and when
24:06
Speaker 7: he decided he would relinquish his title the Duke of York.
24:09
Speaker 7: He still is a prince, but people are pushing for
24:12
Speaker 7: that further.
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Speaker 2: Just one moment, the way you said that, I don't
24:21
Speaker 2: like it.
24:22
Speaker 1: I don't like anything you just said. And I'll tell
24:24
Speaker 1: you why.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it true, Rob Shooter, that Andrew is still insisting
24:29
Speaker 2: that people say your Highness and that he holds onto
24:31
Speaker 2: some type of title.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely behind the scenes. I know a lot of people
24:35
Speaker 5: in the Palace who work at the Royal Lodge. They're
24:38
Speaker 5: saying that behind the scenes, he's still is still Prince Andrew.
24:41
Speaker 5: His staff at the house, his euthy room mansion, that
24:45
Speaker 5: he's not paying any rent for it.
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Speaker 1: I have a staff, Andrew has a staff. He doesn't
24:52
Speaker 1: get his brush, his teeth and wipe.
24:54
Speaker 2: Is why does he have a staff? Why are they?
24:59
Speaker 2: You know what, if the Brents want to pay for it,
25:01
Speaker 2: you know that's on them. So Elena Shirazzi, I don't
25:05
Speaker 2: know that he volunteerily relinquished his title. I think he
25:09
Speaker 2: got called in, summoned into a meeting with Charles and
25:14
Speaker 2: William and he got a spanky spanky and they swipped
25:18
Speaker 2: him off his titles.
25:19
Speaker 1: That's what I think.
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Speaker 7: They want nothing to do with it. It's such a
25:23
Speaker 7: big distraction from the Buckingham Palace and certainly the first
25:27
Speaker 7: time we put a gagging order on Virginia, he claimed
25:29
Speaker 7: that he was thinking about the Queen. I mean, the
25:32
Speaker 7: entire royal family wants to separate themselves as far away
25:36
Speaker 7: from this as possible. And Prince William, we know as
25:39
Speaker 7: well from our reporting, he wants to separate himself from
25:42
Speaker 7: his uncle. There's been so many events just this past
25:46
Speaker 7: week with the royal family where they even did put
25:48
Speaker 7: out a statement saying, you know, we want to focus
25:50
Speaker 7: on what we're doing. We don't want to focus on
25:53
Speaker 7: things surrounding that. And obviously they meant this, so this is.
25:56
Speaker 1: A bad look. This is a horrible look. Elena.
26:01
Speaker 2: Remember just recently there was a big royal funeral, not
26:05
Speaker 2: within the British royal family, but another royal family, and
26:10
Speaker 2: everyone attended and it was this special moment and then
26:14
Speaker 2: all of a sudden here comes to Andrew lurking In
26:17
Speaker 2: trying to have a conversation on camera with William who
26:20
Speaker 2: looked a him and went, oh, it is like a
26:26
Speaker 2: dark cloud over them and they represent like it or not, they.
26:32
Speaker 1: Represent great Britain.
26:34
Speaker 2: He should not be walking free popping up at royal events.
26:39
Speaker 1: It's a huge distraction. The situation has festered.
26:43
Speaker 11: They thought that by.
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Speaker 7: Having him put out a statement in his own way,
26:46
Speaker 7: our reporting shows saying that he would voluntarily relinquish his
26:51
Speaker 7: title of Duke of York, which, as we talked about Nancy,
26:54
Speaker 7: was certainly not the case.
26:55
Speaker 9: It was a sort of pr outreach.
26:57
Speaker 7: On that end, but him trying to come out with
27:00
Speaker 7: the statements in that way, they think it's going to
27:03
Speaker 7: just go away. No, it actually put even more attention
27:07
Speaker 7: on the Royal family. So no matter what were you
27:10
Speaker 7: try and.
27:11
Speaker 2: Interesting the way you said that, Elena, the more is try,
27:15
Speaker 2: the more they try to sweep it under the rug,
27:20
Speaker 2: it festers.
27:21
Speaker 1: It boils up.
27:22
Speaker 2: And that's the same thing that's happening here with these
27:26
Speaker 2: Epstein files. And it's not just Democrats trying to bring
27:31
Speaker 2: down the White House, is Democrats and Republicans because.
27:34
Speaker 1: They know that this is wrong. I mean, you know,
27:38
Speaker 1: uh shooter, it'll be.
27:40
Speaker 2: A cold day in HTUBL that Andrew volunteerily says, here
27:45
Speaker 2: have all my titles and all the pop and all
27:47
Speaker 2: the circumstances that did not happen.
27:50
Speaker 5: Didn't happen, And even a statement actually says that. In
27:52
Speaker 5: the statement he uses the word we. We have decided
27:56
Speaker 5: that I will step away from these titles, not I.
27:58
Speaker 5: So there's more than him in here. My sources are
28:01
Speaker 5: telling me this is William. Williamy is disgusted what happened
28:05
Speaker 5: at the Duchess of Kent's funeral that you reference. Nancy
28:08
Speaker 5: is disgusted at having Andrew around. And this is the
28:10
Speaker 5: problem they have. The Royal family is a family business.
28:15
Speaker 5: They want him out of the business, but he's still
28:18
Speaker 5: a blood member of the family. So they've tried to
28:21
Speaker 5: walk this difficult path of letting him come to family events, funerals, Christmas.
28:27
Speaker 5: Now they decided no more after that display at the Duchess.
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Speaker 2: I've got bigger problems than whether Andrew celebrates Christmas at Sandringham.
28:37
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't care.
28:39
Speaker 2: What I want is this client list, and I want
28:43
Speaker 2: the predators put behind barge. Jeffrey lived her whole life
28:49
Speaker 2: destroyed by what had happened to her, just like.
28:52
Speaker 1: All the other little girls now women. I just want
28:56
Speaker 1: nobody likes to let their mind go there.
28:59
Speaker 2: But you have to imagine, Levine, isn't it true? Girls
29:03
Speaker 2: as young as.
29:04
Speaker 1: Twelve years old.
29:05
Speaker 2: We're being brought to Lolita Island, which is under US jurisdiction.
29:12
Speaker 2: They're in the US Virgin Islands, brought They're flown in
29:16
Speaker 2: from the stands, from Turkey, from France. Little girls, some
29:23
Speaker 2: as young as twelve, they are flown there. They are
29:29
Speaker 2: taken off the plane, they're put on a ferry. They're
29:32
Speaker 2: taken over to the island and they are sex abused.
29:36
Speaker 2: What does sex abuse mean? They are raped, They have
29:39
Speaker 2: sex with Epstein and his clients. And if we sit
29:43
Speaker 2: back and let this happen. Jeffrey is dead. Everybody keeps
29:47
Speaker 2: saying suicide. I'm not sold on that, or Epstein committing suicide.
29:52
Speaker 2: That said, who's going to fight now? Who is going
29:56
Speaker 2: to stand up to Bondye and others that refused to
30:01
Speaker 2: seek justice. There has to be evidence, Leveine, the fairy workers,
30:06
Speaker 2: the pilots, the people that prostess their travel for Pete's sake,
30:12
Speaker 2: There is a trail about what. And you know what,
30:15
Speaker 2: there's more evidence. There's got to be a hospital record
30:18
Speaker 2: of this. Listen, Levine, if you can stomach it.
30:21
Speaker 10: Nobody's girl touches on a harrowing medical emergency at age seventeen,
30:26
Speaker 10: when Virginia woke up in a pool of blood with
30:28
Speaker 10: stabbing abdominal pain. She was heavily sedated when Epstein took
30:32
Speaker 10: her to the hospital, and afterwards he told her she miscarried,
30:36
Speaker 10: but Virginia later learned she likely suffered a ruptured ectopic pregnancy.
30:41
Speaker 10: The memoir also claims Epstein and Maxwell broached the idea
30:45
Speaker 10: of Virginia acting as a surrogate for them, aligning with
30:48
Speaker 10: newly released emails between the couple discussing fertility testing.
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Speaker 2: What did I just hear, wait a minute, that she
30:58
Speaker 2: was even Virginia Giffrey was even considered carrying as a
31:07
Speaker 2: surrogate the baby of Epstein and Max. Will talk about
31:12
Speaker 2: Rosemary's baby. Oh you remember Rosemary's baby with me and Fara.
31:19
Speaker 2: Remember that Levine and me and Farrah had the Devil's baby,
31:23
Speaker 2: the Devil's baby. They were considering using Virginia Giffray, this
31:29
Speaker 2: little teen girl, to carry their baby as a surrogate.
31:35
Speaker 2: If that baby did not come out with horns and
31:37
Speaker 2: a tail, you know, strike me down, Lightning. But there
31:41
Speaker 2: has to be evidence of that topic pregnancy, save where
31:47
Speaker 2: Virginia Giffrey went to the hospital to bolster her testament.
31:52
Speaker 1: Of course, she can never testify now she's dead.
31:55
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're all happy about that, because that's one
31:57
Speaker 2: last witness they've got to deal with.
31:59
Speaker 1: Levigne.
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Speaker 6: Listen, Nancy. There were cover ups not only in the US,
32:04
Speaker 6: but in the virgin Islands where his island was in England.
32:08
Speaker 6: I mean, I know from researching my book. Epstein had
32:12
Speaker 6: doctors and nurses on his island to deal with the
32:16
Speaker 6: issues of these girls that were raised as young as
32:19
Speaker 6: eleven and twelve years old. John Luke Brunell brought over
32:23
Speaker 6: blew Over at least a thousand girls to Epstein under
32:27
Speaker 6: the guise of they're going to be models, We're going
32:31
Speaker 6: to make them models. And he brought them from all
32:33
Speaker 6: these different countries, and they were abused. One girl even
32:38
Speaker 6: tried to she was so frightened, a young girl, she
32:41
Speaker 6: tried to think about swimming off the island the shark
32:45
Speaker 6: confested waters off the island, only to have Jeffrey Epstein's
32:50
Speaker 6: security detail bring her back and shamee her up in
32:55
Speaker 6: her bedroom. This is a cover up of massive worship.
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Speaker 6: The Attorney General in the Virgin Islands, the former Attorney
33:04
Speaker 6: General Denise George, after Epstein's death, once an investigation, she
33:09
Speaker 6: was sickened by what she found from information, as you said,
33:13
Speaker 6: from the people who worked at the airport, Girls as
33:16
Speaker 6: young as eleven and twelve were getting off planes. What
33:19
Speaker 6: the what Epstein would do? Would he would have them
33:22
Speaker 6: dress up in college university sweatsher in an attempt to
33:27
Speaker 6: make them look older as if they were in college,
33:29
Speaker 6: but in fact these were children up.
33:33
Speaker 5: Planes.
33:34
Speaker 2: You know what, You just gave me chills all over
33:37
Speaker 2: because that's kind of detail I look for when I
33:40
Speaker 2: am trying to assess a witness's credibility again, to wear
33:46
Speaker 2: out a phrase, it would be a cold day in
33:48
Speaker 2: HGDVI L that I would put a witness on the
33:50
Speaker 2: stand that I did not believe. But what you just
33:54
Speaker 2: said that it was Epstein's idea to dress the little
33:59
Speaker 2: girl some eleven twelve is when I heard you said
34:01
Speaker 2: eleven in college sweatshirts and T shirts to make people
34:07
Speaker 2: think that they were college aged.
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Speaker 1: I he just make up a fact like that. I
34:11
Speaker 1: believe that.
34:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is information that the Attorney General turned up
34:16
Speaker 6: in her investigation. And you know she said that the
34:21
Speaker 6: state Epstein's estate, which he finally got to force a
34:25
Speaker 6: compensation fund for the victims, that it was a criminal
34:30
Speaker 6: conspiracy in terms of what went on over there. You
34:32
Speaker 6: have to remember that after he received that slap on
34:35
Speaker 6: the wrist conviction down in Florida in two thousand and eight,
34:38
Speaker 6: he wanted to conduct his sex trafficking away from the
34:42
Speaker 6: eyes of police in Florida and New York, and he
34:45
Speaker 6: primarily moved his operation to the Virgin Islands, where he
34:49
Speaker 6: had all these international fixers put these young girls on planes.
34:54
Speaker 6: It is a cover up of massive proportion, and nobody
35:00
Speaker 6: wants to investigate this except for a very few in
35:03
Speaker 6: the government like Thomas Massey and Senator Roy Wyden, who
35:07
Speaker 6: is going down a financial trail to try to determine
35:11
Speaker 6: who Epstein paid from one billion dollars worth of wire
35:16
Speaker 6: transfers that he turned up. So, you know, this is
35:20
Speaker 6: something that still needs investigation, and we need to find
35:25
Speaker 6: these men who are overseas. We need to find the
35:27
Speaker 6: men who put these young girls on plane.
35:30
Speaker 10: Virginia Geffrey's posthumous memoir Nobody's Girl, describes an excruciating detail
35:35
Speaker 10: how Gallane Maxwell recruited her into Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking ring.
35:40
Speaker 10: Virginia speaks to the reader, urging them to continue despite
35:43
Speaker 10: the frequently stomach churning content. Virginia explains the content of
35:48
Speaker 10: this book is crucial. It is imperative that the truth
35:51
Speaker 10: is understood and that the issues surrounding this topic are addressed,
35:55
Speaker 10: both for the sake of justice and awareness.
35:58
Speaker 1: Theyved it. There's thousands of thousands of ages.
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Speaker 2: We've been told over and over and over that what's
36:03
Speaker 2: in those files is shocking.
36:05
Speaker 1: We're going to get rid of the deep state. We're
36:07
Speaker 1: going to show you all of the files? Why not
36:10
Speaker 1: release them? Lies? Lies? Lies?
36:13
Speaker 2: What are they hiding?
36:18
Speaker 1: What are they hiding?
36:20
Speaker 2: Why not release the files? How many people have to
36:25
Speaker 2: die by suicide before anyone pays attention to what happened
36:30
Speaker 2: to these young girls? How are these clients still shrouded
36:37
Speaker 2: in mystery, the editia of reliability and respectability?
36:42
Speaker 1: How are they going about their lives like nothing happened?
36:46
Speaker 2: I was speaking to Barry Levine, author of The Spider
36:49
Speaker 2: inside the Tangled Web of Jeffrey Epstein, and Delaine Maxwell
36:52
Speaker 2: about hardproof like a hospital visit with Jeffray's topic pregnancy,
36:58
Speaker 2: But what about this?
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Speaker 10: One email includes a two thousand items spreadsheet detailing gifts
37:05
Speaker 10: Epstein financed for powerful associates.
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Speaker 1: And his victims.
37:09
Speaker 10: Some of the gifts include a fifty thousand dollars Steinway piano,
37:13
Speaker 10: a sixty thousand dollars diamond necklace and earring set for Maxwell,
37:17
Speaker 10: a seventy one thousand dollars Lexus for Epstein's lawyer's wife,
37:21
Speaker 10: and a thirty five thousand dollars watch for one of
37:23
Speaker 10: Clinton's apes. Maxwell also documents gift cards to lingerie shops, flowers, chocolates,
37:30
Speaker 10: laptops and education and red payments made to victims.
37:40
Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
37:47
Speaker 2: Sidney Summer joining me Crime Stories investigative reporter looks like
37:50
Speaker 2: the victims, the little girls. We're a lot cheaper to
37:55
Speaker 2: buy off lingerie. Who needs another pair of underwear, flower chocolate,
38:01
Speaker 2: a laptop, pay the rent. When a presidential aid got
38:07
Speaker 2: a thirty five thousand dollar watch, someone else got a
38:13
Speaker 2: Steinway piano, a seventy one thousand dollars Lexus, that's just
38:20
Speaker 2: a tip of the iceberg. Sydney Sumner who was paid off,
38:23
Speaker 2: got bribes, got so called gifts that were enabling child
38:28
Speaker 2: sex trafficking.
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Speaker 1: Sydney.
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Speaker 11: Yes, that spreadsheet is just a staggering document to go through.
38:36
Speaker 11: The records are just it's horrible looking at how easily
38:42
Speaker 11: these young girls were paid off or appeased in some
38:48
Speaker 11: way to continue performing what they performed for Jeffrey Epstein.
38:52
Speaker 11: Their rent payments, payments for SAP classes, a laptop, and
38:57
Speaker 11: there's other things, off road vehicles to the tune of
39:00
Speaker 11: almost one hundred thousand dollars for a minor. These gifts,
39:05
Speaker 11: we don't know how many of them were accepted. And
39:08
Speaker 11: Clinton aide who was identified in those emails, denies that
39:13
Speaker 11: he ever received that thirty five thousand dollars. Watch, but
39:17
Speaker 11: it is just staggering how far Jeffrey epstein reach extended,
39:22
Speaker 11: and Gallaine Maxwell facilitated and bought most of these gifts herself.
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Speaker 1: The two of them, the devil and his hitch person,
39:31
Speaker 1: literally make me sick.
39:32
Speaker 2: Listen to this that we've discovered about emails between the
39:35
Speaker 2: two of them.
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Speaker 10: Ghlaine Maxwell insists she was not close with Epstein after
39:40
Speaker 10: two thousand and three, but nearly six hundred and fifty
39:43
Speaker 10: emails between the financier and socialite begged to differ. They
39:47
Speaker 10: discuss his initial sexual abuse case gifts to both powerful
39:50
Speaker 10: contacts and the miners they abused, plans to discredit women
39:54
Speaker 10: raising allegations against Epstein and.
39:56
Speaker 1: Shared fertility procedures.
39:59
Speaker 2: I mean, right there in emails, gifts were being given
40:05
Speaker 2: to the so called clients aka.
40:08
Speaker 1: Dirty old men, and they're victims.
40:12
Speaker 2: Why were these expensive gifts A fifty thousand dollars Steinway,
40:16
Speaker 2: a seventy one thousand dollars Lexus and more and more
40:20
Speaker 2: being given to the clients that the little girl then
40:24
Speaker 2: little girl victims actually name? How can the US attorney
40:30
Speaker 2: turn the other way.
40:32
Speaker 1: It's such a sham.
40:36
Speaker 2: I'm very curious the way that is being portrayed to us,
40:41
Speaker 2: as if there are no files, there's nothing to see
40:46
Speaker 2: while a monarchy is under siege. I'm talking about Fergie.
40:56
Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 10: Prince Andrews' ex wife, Sarah Ferguson is exposed and leaked
41:00
Speaker 10: emails showing that while the Duchess of York publicly apologized
41:04
Speaker 10: for her Epstein association, she privately apologized to him weeks later,
41:08
Speaker 10: calling him a supreme friend.
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Speaker 1: In a twenty eleven interview, Fergie.
41:13
Speaker 10: Says it was a gigantic error in judgment to accept
41:16
Speaker 10: money from Epstein as she abhors pedophilia, but weeks later,
41:20
Speaker 10: in a private email to Epstein, she humbly apologizes. Insiders
41:25
Speaker 10: say Epstein threatened a lawsuit and Fergie sent her email
41:28
Speaker 10: to appease him. Leaked email showing a fifteen year history
41:32
Speaker 10: of money and friendship with Epstein is costing Sarah Ferguson
41:36
Speaker 10: as at least seven major organizations cut ties with the Duchess.
41:40
Speaker 2: Rob Shecheter joining as host of Naughty but NIC's podcast
41:43
Speaker 2: and author of a new hit book.
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Speaker 1: It started with.
41:47
Speaker 2: A whisper shooter. I loved Fergie from.
41:53
Speaker 1: The get go. She and Diana my total favorites.
41:57
Speaker 2: But now we know Fergie's gotten hundreds of thousands of
42:02
Speaker 2: dollars from Epstein. He's been bailing her out of financial
42:07
Speaker 2: woes for years, and she's still living the Champagne caviar lifestyle.
42:13
Speaker 1: Now, wait a minute.
42:14
Speaker 2: I don't know if they say this in the UK,
42:17
Speaker 2: but here we say it when you don't know a horse.
42:20
Speaker 2: Look at her track record. We know Fergie the Duchess
42:25
Speaker 2: of York. Sarah Ferguson was caught on video in a
42:30
Speaker 2: sting where she was accepting tens of thousands of dollars
42:33
Speaker 2: to introduce somebody to Andrew.
42:36
Speaker 1: So we know she will use her position and get
42:39
Speaker 1: money for it.
42:40
Speaker 2: So I don't know what she was doing with all
42:42
Speaker 2: of Epstein's money, but she gave this public apology. Oh,
42:47
Speaker 2: I had no idea he was a pedophile and secretly
42:49
Speaker 2: riding him. I'm so sorry I said that you're my
42:52
Speaker 2: supreme friend.
42:54
Speaker 1: What a load of bs.
42:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's grotesque, Nancise, absolutely grotesque, And it's another example
43:02
Speaker 5: of rich and powerful people saying one thing publicly and
43:05
Speaker 5: another behind the scene. I think, like you, I really
43:09
Speaker 5: liked Fergie. I've met her several times, and now we've
43:13
Speaker 5: realized the person that we thought she is she simply isn't.
43:16
Speaker 5: And it's just another example of these awful people tricking us,
43:20
Speaker 5: not just said victims, but all of us. This has
43:24
Speaker 5: been a mass cover up and one that has been
43:27
Speaker 5: really successful until now, and now, thankfully finally nice having
43:33
Speaker 5: to change.
43:33
Speaker 2: You know, we've got the Tian commandments, right, but there's
43:36
Speaker 2: also the seven Deadly sins, and one of them is gluttony. Gluttony,
43:44
Speaker 2: all the champagne, all the caveat, all the chauffeur limos
43:49
Speaker 2: waiting outside for eighteen twenty hours until she decides she's
43:53
Speaker 2: not going to go. The mansions, the gifts, the stationary,
43:58
Speaker 2: the clothes, what was She's spending millions of dollars on herself?
44:05
Speaker 1: Nancy herself.
44:08
Speaker 5: She made no money as a royal. She's living rent
44:11
Speaker 5: free in her ex husband's house. She doesn't even have
44:16
Speaker 5: her own apartment. She's staying with her ex husband. The
44:20
Speaker 5: mistake we make when we think we know royalty is
44:23
Speaker 5: we think they're really, really wealthy, and a lot of
44:27
Speaker 5: them are, but many of them are not Nancy. They
44:29
Speaker 5: live this fabulous life, but if you check in the
44:31
Speaker 5: bank accounts, it's not a lot of money. And so
44:34
Speaker 5: Sarah here was using people like Jeffrey Epstein to get cashed,
44:39
Speaker 5: and in exchange, he was getting access to power and
44:43
Speaker 5: access to cover ups.
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Speaker 2: She and Andrew were perfect for each other, feel so
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Speaker 2: bad for their daughters, Beatrice and Eugenie. Doctor Bethony Marshall,
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Speaker 2: her Spencer Coon and say his clients are afraid. I
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Speaker 2: guess so, because you've got Prince Andrew and the Duchess
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Speaker 2: of your cozying.
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Speaker 1: Up with Epstein.
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Speaker 2: Who's going to believe them over the British royal family
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Speaker 2: for Pete's sake, and presidents and wealthy individuals, CEOs of companies,
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Speaker 2: and these little girls were saying, hey, raped me.
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Speaker 9: Yes, these girls feel so disadvantaged.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 9: One of the things I read in the Book of Virginda,
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Speaker 9: Jeffrey's book is that she would travel around the United
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Speaker 9: States with her ghostwriter trying to find people who would
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Speaker 9: corroborate the fact that she had been on the island
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Speaker 9: because she was so desperate to have some acknowledgment and
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Speaker 9: some justice. And then we see this vast cover up
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Speaker 9: that you're talking about this vast machine against which she.
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Speaker 1: Had no power.
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Speaker 9: She had no chance, Nancy, And that's what makes me
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Speaker 9: so sad about this. You know, a detail that I
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Speaker 9: think is quite interesting because you were talking about evidence,
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Speaker 9: is that in her book she writes that she was
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Speaker 9: called to give a massage to a very wealthy, powerful
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Speaker 9: man whose wife was pregnant. It was at a hotel,
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Speaker 9: fancy hotel. She gives the wife a normal massage, the
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Speaker 9: wife goes to bed, she starts to give the husband
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Speaker 9: a massage, and then she realizes it's an abusive massage.
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Speaker 9: So she was sex trafficked. Once again. There that's yet
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Speaker 9: another story that you cannot make up. Who was that wife,
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Speaker 9: what did she know? Why is that person not coming forward?
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Speaker 9: Is she covering up from her husband? People are covering
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Speaker 9: up for so many reasons. And all those gifts Jeffrey
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Speaker 9: Fstein gave. It's not only to pay people off, but
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Speaker 9: once they accept the gift, then they're complicit.
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Speaker 1: And we saw this with p. Ditty.
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Speaker 9: He would do things to make people complicit in his
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Speaker 9: crimes so that then they would not turn him in,
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Speaker 9: like taping them having sex with minors or whatever, and
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Speaker 9: then he would have that tape as evidence. So the
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Speaker 9: gifts are a way to get people into the full,
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Speaker 9: to get gifts back from them and to buy their silence.
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Speaker 1: A case is being built.
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Speaker 2: There are people that are fighting for these victims. If
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Speaker 2: you know or you think you know anything about this
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Speaker 2: case Epstein, Maxwell, the clients, or the client list, please
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Speaker 2: dial to zero two two two five three four six five.
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Speaker 2: Repeat to zero two two two five, three four six five.
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Speaker 1: Yes it's a Washington, DC number, but don't.
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Speaker 2: Be afraid to zero two two two five three four
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Speaker 2: six five. We wait and pray as justice unfolds. And
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Speaker 2: now we remember an American Hero Officer, Lauren Craven le
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Speaker 2: Masa p D just twenty five, killed in the line
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Speaker 2: of duty, leaving behind as you can imagine, grieving parents
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Speaker 2: Karen and David American Hero Officer Lauren Craven Nancy Gray
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Speaker 2: signing off goodbye friend,