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They’re Trying to Shut Down DHS to Protect Illegal Votes | Rep. Beth Van Duyne · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: The Democrats already partially shut down the government over funding
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Speaker 1: for ICE and DHS, and they continue to oppose the
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Speaker 1: Save Act. What would that do? Just requires that you
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Speaker 1: show you're a citizen before you can register to vote.
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Speaker 1: Not a big deal, right well, Beth Van Dyne, US
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Speaker 1: representative says, this is all about protecting illegal votes. You've
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Speaker 1: got to see this. Why aren't we going to shut
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Speaker 1: down again? What are these people doing on the other
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Speaker 1: side of the aute. I don't get it.
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Speaker 2: Because Democrats are desperate for this economy to fail, for
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Speaker 2: our borders to be open, and they don't want ICE
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Speaker 2: join their job because if they start losing population because
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Speaker 2: they're being deported, then they're going to lose their congressional seats.
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Speaker 2: This is all about power, This is all about money,
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Speaker 2: and the last thing they want is for this administration
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Speaker 2: to continue to go after the waste, fraud, and abuse
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Speaker 2: because they are uncovering tens of billions of dollars of
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Speaker 2: that that is flying into their two associations, organizations that
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Speaker 2: are Democrat organizations liberal organizations, and this administration is putting
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Speaker 2: as to it and they don't want that to happen.
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Speaker 2: So they are desperate to be able to shut down.
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Speaker 2: You got Chuck Schumer who is just just kind of
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Speaker 2: running for his life recognizing the fact that New York
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Speaker 2: City's been taken over by a Marxist Communists. He's going
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Speaker 2: to be challenged probably by AOC, and he's doing everything
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Speaker 2: that he can to say, no, I'm working for you.
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Speaker 2: I'm working But it's the extreme left that he's working for.
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Speaker 2: So it's very frustrating. We in the House, we did
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Speaker 2: our job. We passed over twelve appropriation bills that nobody
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Speaker 2: thought we would be able to do, and they want
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Speaker 2: to shut it down all because they don't want to
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Speaker 2: see DHS be able to do their job.
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Speaker 1: It's very strange to me because they shut it down
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Speaker 1: for forty four days for no good reason. They lied
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Speaker 1: about the Obamacare subsidies. That was the deadline the Democrats
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Speaker 1: put on that, and it was only for the pandemic.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to continue none that the pandemic has been
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Speaker 1: over for three or four years. So they got nothing
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Speaker 1: whatsoever out of that. What do they think they're going
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Speaker 1: to get out of this? Did they really think that
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Speaker 1: the American people don't want us to fund DHS? The
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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland security.
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Speaker 2: Really Yeah, well it's crazy. So if you look at
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Speaker 2: Immigrations and Customers Enforcement, which is what they're fighting about,
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Speaker 2: right it's ice that they're fighting that has already been
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Speaker 2: funded through our one big beautiful bill through twenty twenty nine.
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Speaker 2: That's been funded right now. The fight that they're going
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Speaker 2: to have legitimately about DHS, what is it going to do.
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Speaker 2: It's going to stop FEMA. So we in the middle
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Speaker 2: of this massive winter wonderland all across the country and
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Speaker 2: they're going to shut down FEMA. The other thing they're
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Speaker 2: going to shut down is TSA. So you've got people
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Speaker 2: are struggling to get around the country that want to
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Speaker 2: get home. They're going to shut down and try to
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Speaker 2: disrupt TSA. It doesn't make any sense, but again, this
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Speaker 2: is what they're willing to do in order to shut
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Speaker 2: down the government because they don't like what this administration
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Speaker 2: is doing. But it's exactly the wrong thing. I think
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Speaker 2: American people are going to see that this is what
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Speaker 2: they voted for. They wanted to secure borders, they wanted
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Speaker 2: to uncover the DOGE efforts of waste, fraud and abuse,
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Speaker 2: and this administration is being very effective at both.
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Speaker 1: What do they think they're accomplished though, because again I
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Speaker 1: want to go back to what I said a minute
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Speaker 1: ago that you know I probably learned it from you.
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Speaker 1: They gain nothing when they shut it down for forty
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Speaker 1: four days, nothing politically. They didn't make Trump look bad
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Speaker 1: and Republicans look bad. They made themselves look stupid because
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Speaker 1: the only reason the government was shut down was because
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Speaker 1: of Democrats, and anybody and everybody, even Democrats who were
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Speaker 1: in the public they know that it wasn't shut down
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Speaker 1: with the Republicans. There wasn't any good argument. So shutting
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Speaker 1: it down now, even partially until you guys vote on
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Speaker 1: five bills instead of six and six instead of twelve,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense because we're still not getting
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Speaker 1: a budget that makes any sense of the American people.
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Speaker 1: If you were on that side, I don't want you
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Speaker 1: to hurt yourself. I know that's the problem. I don't
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Speaker 1: want you to think like a Democrat, although I'm going
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Speaker 1: to ask you to for a second. What can they
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Speaker 1: possibly be thinking in their closed door meetings, Beth, What
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Speaker 1: can they be saying to themselves this will work? Because
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Speaker 1: what what are they doing?
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Speaker 2: Because we have to prove, we have to prove to
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Speaker 2: our far extreme left voter base that we're fighting for them.
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Speaker 2: So we are going to go to the mat and
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Speaker 2: we're going to shut down the government to prove them
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Speaker 2: that we're fighters. That's what they're getting out of this.
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Speaker 2: And maybe it's working for that small, tiny base, But
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Speaker 2: for the vast majority of Americans that are struggling right
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Speaker 2: now to get home, that are struggling right now through
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Speaker 2: through horrendous wintry conditions that they're going to affect with FEMA,
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Speaker 2: this is not what they want. And when they sit
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Speaker 2: here and say we want to shut down immigrations and
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Speaker 2: Customs enforcement, again, if they look back to November twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four, the vast majority of Americans are supportive of
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Speaker 2: having a secure border, are supportive of the two point
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Speaker 2: seven million people who have been deported. This is what
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Speaker 2: the American people voted for. This is what this administration
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Speaker 2: is giving them. So what are Democrats getting out of it?
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Speaker 2: They have this fake signal that, oh, hey, we're fighters,
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Speaker 2: but they're doing more damage and quite honestly, if the
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Speaker 2: other thing that they are able to hurt is the economy,
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Speaker 2: this is what people are going to be voting on
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Speaker 2: in November that at the end of the day, they're
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Speaker 2: looking at pocket book issues. We have a one big,
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Speaker 2: beautiful bill that working families tax cut that we passed,
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Speaker 2: that we signed into law July fourth of last year.
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Speaker 2: That those cuts are going to be helpful. You know,
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Speaker 2: they just started coming in line in January. That's going
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Speaker 2: to help the economy grow. We already saw the last
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Speaker 2: quarter of last year where we saw over five percent
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Speaker 2: growth in economic growth. Those are things that are going
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Speaker 2: to help people. A shutdown hurts the economy, and that's
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Speaker 2: exactly what Democrats want because they do not want helpful
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Speaker 2: Americans going into a mid term election because then they're
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Speaker 2: much more likely to vote for Republicans.
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Speaker 1: I think you nailed it, because if you keep on
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Speaker 1: complaining about ice in DHS and Republicans are bad, then
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Speaker 1: they're not hearing us talk enough about how good the
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Speaker 1: economy really is, how it's bouncing back. We're also not
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Speaker 1: talking a lot about the fraudust specifically that's going on
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota right now. So is this all the game plan?
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Speaker 1: Do you think let's divert attention from the low gas
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Speaker 1: prices to eleven At my gas station today, it's under
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Speaker 1: two dollars. Parts of San Antonio or on based is
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Speaker 1: that what it is. Forget about how cheap groceries are,
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Speaker 1: Forget about interest rates coming down, forget about how affordable
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Speaker 1: it is now to buy a house where it wasn't
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Speaker 1: at all under Biden. And also forget about all the fraud,
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Speaker 1: wasted abuse that's going on in these very, very blue states.
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Speaker 1: Because Ice is the gestapo. Is that the plan really,
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Speaker 1: I think, I mean.
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Speaker 2: That would be the playbook that they seem to be following.
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Speaker 2: So it's absolutely distract Don't look at the economy. Don't
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Speaker 2: look at the actual numbers. Don't look at the fact
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Speaker 2: that you're going to have one hundred and fifty billion
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Speaker 2: dollars that are going to be given in tax rebates
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Speaker 2: the first quarter of this year. Don't look at the
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Speaker 2: five months six months of decreasing rental rental costs. Don't
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Speaker 2: look at the two point eight you know, or two
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Speaker 2: point seven million deportations. Don't look at you know, the
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Speaker 2: decrease in crime rates. I mean, don't look at the
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Speaker 2: increase in wages, which for the first time in a
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Speaker 2: long time now has actually overgrown on the rise of inflation.
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Speaker 2: I mean, all of those things are being handled by
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Speaker 2: policies out of this administration and a Republican run Congress.
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Speaker 2: Those are helping people, but they don't want to talk
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Speaker 2: about that. So you're absolutely right. They're going to continue
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Speaker 2: to distract and hope people's focuses on this sho any
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Speaker 2: object and not on reality.
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Speaker 1: We're doing this on Monday, the second of February Tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday the third, the House could be voting on
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Speaker 1: this probably will be voting on what you got back
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Speaker 1: from the Senate. But is it exactly what I said
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Speaker 1: it was? It's five bills and then we're going to
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Speaker 1: leave DHS and Limbo. And again, as you said, Ice
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Speaker 1: and the Enforcement Arm has already been funded through twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty nine or something. So what exactly is this vote
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Speaker 1: on tomorrow? Is it on five spending bills?
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Speaker 2: So it's on five appropriation bills. And what they want
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Speaker 2: to do is they want to postpone DHS for two
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Speaker 2: weeks and somehow thinking that they're going to be able
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Speaker 2: to negotiate I guess ICE funding out. I don't know
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Speaker 2: what the what the game plan is for the Democrats,
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Speaker 2: but what we what has been offered up right now
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Speaker 2: that's going through the Rules Committee as we speak is
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Speaker 2: the fire appropriation bills, but a pause for DHS for
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Speaker 2: two weeks.
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Speaker 1: Again, if we're going to have a Department of Homeland Security,
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Speaker 1: how do you not fund it? I'm not sure I understand.
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Speaker 1: We have so many things in that department. Now, like
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Speaker 1: you said, TSA and ICE and VP and HS sign
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Speaker 1: all these all these thing FEMA, how do you pause that?
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Speaker 1: How do you pause that funding, especially, as you said,
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the most brutal Arctic blast we've
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Speaker 1: had in like five years.
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Speaker 2: Don't ask me. I think it's ridiculous. This is why
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Speaker 2: I supported this bill. Are there things in the bill
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Speaker 2: that you know? I thought that I would have preferred out, Absolutely,
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Speaker 2: But I'm not going to throw the baby out with
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Speaker 2: bath water. So there are You know, we passed. We
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Speaker 2: did our job in the House. We've been told we
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Speaker 2: haven't been on regular order. We passed our approparation bills
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Speaker 2: all twelve and we sent over the Senate. The Senate
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Speaker 2: needs to do its job and to stop playing politics,
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Speaker 2: which is exactly what they are. So afraid that this
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Speaker 2: economy is kicking in, that people are feeling more secure,
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Speaker 2: people are feeling more hopeful than they have You're seeing
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Speaker 2: trillions of dollars of outside investment poured into our economy.
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Speaker 2: You're seeing again tax rebates, You're seeing ease ups on
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Speaker 2: tax whether or not it's no tax on tipsnow tax
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Speaker 2: on overtime. All of these things that Republicans have done
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Speaker 2: and performed that are starting to kick in. People are
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Speaker 2: starting to feel and they're going to continue to strapped
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Speaker 2: and as painful as they can make it, they will.
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Speaker 2: Democrats will because the last thing that they want again
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Speaker 2: is for people to feel that kind of security going
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Speaker 2: into the midterms. They would rather wrecker economy. They would
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Speaker 2: rather open our borders. They would rather have people here
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Speaker 2: illegally who are committing crimes than actually admit that the
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Speaker 2: Republicans are on the right track, because they'd rather keep power.
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Speaker 1: District twenty four Republican Grace stated, Texas in is bethe
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Speaker 1: and dying. We appreciate you stopping by. Joaquin Castro, who's
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Speaker 1: a guy that represents one of the districts in San Antonio.
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Speaker 1: District twenty has made a poster child out of this
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Speaker 1: little kid from Ecuador and his father's from Ecuador, but
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Speaker 1: they live in Minnesota. This kid, Liam Kanejo rob Ramos
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Speaker 1: they go. He was at the Dailly facility, not far
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Speaker 1: from where I sit, and he was fine. He was
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Speaker 1: asleep in his father's arms. The Left sold this story, Beth,
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Speaker 1: as if the kid was sickly and dying and ill
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Speaker 1: and malnourished and was no good. And this is all
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Speaker 1: because Ice is bad and it's a gestapo and Trump
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Speaker 1: is bad. You know, we just heard from Tom Holman
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Speaker 1: the other day that one hundred and forty five thousand
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Speaker 1: missing kids were found that were lost by Biden and Harris.
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Speaker 1: They don't care about one of those kids, yet they
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Speaker 1: can make a poster boy, a poster child out of
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Speaker 1: this little kid Lee. And we didn't know where the
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Speaker 1: hell he was, and his mother didn't want to take custody.
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Speaker 1: His father was here illegally. They used that child to
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Speaker 1: try to get across to the American people, and sadly
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Speaker 1: a lot of people fell for it. About how horrible
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Speaker 1: Republicans are about the kids is our problem on our side, Beth,
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Speaker 1: the fact that our messaging sucks. It's got to be
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Speaker 1: because one hundred and forty five thousand found getting rapists
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Speaker 1: and pedophiles and murderers off the streets. Those are all
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Speaker 1: really good things. Yet the only thing that somebody walking
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Speaker 1: out of a high school in where you're from, you know, Irving, Texas,
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Speaker 1: they're holding signs about how horrible it was that we're
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Speaker 1: treating this ramost kid like he's nothing. Are we doing
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Speaker 1: badly on messaging? I don't think you are. I think
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Speaker 1: I'm trying my best. But what's going on here?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you know it bleeds leads, and so
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Speaker 2: when you talk about things that are positive, that's not
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Speaker 2: what you're going to make the headlines. I think the
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Speaker 2: media looks for these types of examples, and when they
11:02
Speaker 2: can't find the example, they'll make it up. I mean
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Speaker 2: we have seen that over and over again, whether or
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Speaker 2: not that is, you know, demonizing CBP for doing its
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Speaker 2: job and saying that they were whipping people at the border,
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Speaker 2: which absolutely was not what was happening, talking about this
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Speaker 2: child and willing to put him out there in a
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Speaker 2: complete lie it was not happening. They will make up
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Speaker 2: stories to try to give the worst look for Immigrations
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Speaker 2: and Customers Enforcement for this administration that it possibly can.
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Speaker 2: I think Republicans are sticking to the message, which is
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Speaker 2: what is a positive message, but it's not what the
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Speaker 2: media wants to talk about. And I look at my colleagues,
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Speaker 2: you know, social media posts, and for the most part,
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Speaker 2: they are all talking about, you know, the cost of
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Speaker 2: gas being down, rental rights being down, mortgage rates being down,
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Speaker 2: the economy being up, wages being up. We are sticking
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Speaker 2: to that message because it's a true message. But the
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Speaker 2: media is fighting us left and right, and people are
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Speaker 2: being distracted because they're looking at something that sounds horrible,
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Speaker 2: but when you uncover it, it's a lie. How do
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Speaker 2: we fixt you're doing to continue to uncover?
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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that, but here's the problem. So called
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Speaker 1: news organizations said this kid was arrested with his father.
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Speaker 1: Others said he was detained with his father. None of
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Speaker 1: that's true. The father ran from ice, he decided to
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Speaker 1: abandon his kid in temperatures that were below zero actual
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Speaker 1: temperature in Minneapolis that day. Then they tried to give
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Speaker 1: him to his mother twice, who refused to come out,
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Speaker 1: allegedly afraid she would be arrested. They said, we're not
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Speaker 1: here to get you, We're not going to arrest you,
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Speaker 1: take your son. She wouldn't come and take the son.
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Speaker 1: So what do they do instead of separating the family's
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Speaker 1: beth because that's illegally. You can't separate the families. He
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Speaker 1: kept the family together. Now they were detaining him in Dilly,
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Speaker 1: which of course they weren't. Mom could have gotten them
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Speaker 1: at any time. And you're right, all the stuff that
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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, all the stuff I try to mention
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Speaker 1: on my show is overwhelmingly positive. But these idiots believed
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Speaker 1: the Washington Post and The Hill and New York Times
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Speaker 1: that all alleged that he was being detained. Can we
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Speaker 1: defeat them, Can we beat them on messaging or not?
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Speaker 2: I think the more the more folks like you that
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Speaker 2: come out, and the more people who are having podcasts
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Speaker 2: that are competing with these these national news organizations that
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Speaker 2: are that are you know, generations old, that are losing
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Speaker 2: their readership. There's a reason why there's a reason why
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Speaker 2: people are not trusting in the New York Times, in
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Speaker 2: the Washington Post, because they've come out with lies. They
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Speaker 2: have covered up lies. I mean, look at what they
13:21
Speaker 2: were passing just just a few years ago that Biden
13:24
Speaker 2: was at the top of his game. Nothing to see here,
13:27
Speaker 2: Oh no, there's nothing with with with with the hunter
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Speaker 2: Biden's laptop. They have been been very famous for putting
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Speaker 2: off lies and lies and lies and covering up the truth.
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Speaker 2: And so I think the more podcasts we have, the
13:39
Speaker 2: more people like like uh Nick Soria who are doing
13:43
Speaker 2: the hard work and following up and putting these these
13:46
Speaker 2: images out on social media, and then those are taking off,
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Speaker 2: those are going viral. That's what people are responding to
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Speaker 2: right now. And there's a reason why you know, your
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Speaker 2: old generational news is losing readership because nobody trusts.
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Speaker 1: Them anymore that the District twenty four Republican, Great State
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Speaker 1: of Texas. I think you know this. I was at
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Speaker 1: television news anchor for a long time. I've won a
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Speaker 1: ton of awards and journalism, tons of them, and I
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Speaker 1: brag about it all the time. Bet to be honest
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Speaker 1: with you, when I see somebody like Don Lemon pretending
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Speaker 1: that he's a journalist and he's not, who embedded himself
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Speaker 1: with people he knew were going to break the law,
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Speaker 1: it would be as if I said, as a journalist, oh,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna rob the bank, let me embed myself with
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Speaker 1: you as you robbed the bank. Then I'll report on it,
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Speaker 1: and then I'll and then I'll interview some of the tellers.
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Speaker 1: What he did at that church was a violation of
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Speaker 1: law simply because he was I believe, aiding a betting
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Speaker 1: and harboring people he knew was about. He knew these
14:36
Speaker 1: people were about to go and break the law. But
14:38
Speaker 1: even worse than that, he's attempting to say his First
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Speaker 1: Amendment allowed him to interrupt the first Amendment of those
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Speaker 1: who were worshiping at a church on a Sunday service
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Speaker 1: and then interview the pastor as you have just bombarded
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Speaker 1: the church with these agitators. What do you make the
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Speaker 1: whole Don Lemon story? Because there were idiots on the
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Speaker 1: left who want us to believe he's just a journalist
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Speaker 1: doing his job.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Don Lemon is so absolutelyely desperate to be relevant
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Speaker 2: again that he's willing to break the law to do it.
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Speaker 2: He went in and he busted up. If he really
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Speaker 2: was interested in these people's opinions, if he wanted to
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Speaker 2: talk to the minister, he could have waited until after
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Speaker 2: the services were over. But they went in there specifically
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Speaker 2: during the middle of service to interrupt it, to make
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Speaker 2: a scene, and that, by the way, is a violation
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Speaker 2: of the Face Act. He knew absolutely that they were
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Speaker 2: doing that. Let them try doing that in a mosque.
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Speaker 2: Let's see how that goes. Let's see if the rest
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Speaker 2: of the media he's like, oh so accepting of it. Absolutely,
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Speaker 2: they would not be. They would call him in islama phobe.
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Speaker 2: They would get in his face about if any other
15:37
Speaker 2: journalist try to do that. But the fact is that
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Speaker 2: Don Lemon is so pathetic, sad. He is trying to
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Speaker 2: stay relevant and literally is willing to incite a mob
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Speaker 2: to go in and break up a worshiping service to
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Speaker 2: get publicity. And it's working. But you know, I also
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Speaker 2: saw a mugshot, so somewhat hopeful that you know he
15:59
Speaker 2: likes the or the color orange.
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Speaker 1: I'm with you. And by the way, not only the
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Speaker 1: Face Act, also eighteen USC. Two forty one, which is
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy to restrict rights. You cannot walk in and
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Speaker 1: say my First Amendment right is more important than your
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Speaker 1: First Amendment right. It's like these idiots that are closing
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Speaker 1: down streets in Minneapolis. No, you don't have the right
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Speaker 1: to do that because you have the right to bring
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Speaker 1: redress or to peaceably assemble. By the way, the word
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Speaker 1: protest does it in the First Amendment. It is that
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Speaker 1: BETHA and nine, let's finish with this. Can you explain
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Speaker 1: to me in simple terms, because I'm a simple guy,
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Speaker 1: why anybody would have a problem with making sure that
16:33
Speaker 1: we show that we're US citizens before we register to vote.
16:36
Speaker 1: The same Act only does that, Beth. It doesn't do
16:39
Speaker 1: anything more than that, Just prove that you're a citizen
16:41
Speaker 1: when you're registering to vote and you've got the right
16:44
Speaker 1: to vote. What's controversial because people.
16:47
Speaker 2: Who don't want that to happen. People who want to
16:51
Speaker 2: make sure that anybody that they give a card to
16:53
Speaker 2: can vote, regardless of whether or not they're here legally
16:56
Speaker 2: illegally have already voted a number of times. They don't
17:00
Speaker 2: want safe elections. And so I am a huge supporter
17:04
Speaker 2: of the Save Act. I think it needs to be passed.
17:07
Speaker 2: I find no problem at all with requiring people to
17:10
Speaker 2: prove that they are US citizens. I mean, think about
17:12
Speaker 2: how many different things that we do on a daily
17:14
Speaker 2: basis that you have to have ID for, you know,
17:16
Speaker 2: renting a renting a book from your library. Right when
17:20
Speaker 2: you go to a lot to get a library card,
17:21
Speaker 2: you have to show proof of citizenship. If you go
17:24
Speaker 2: to a rec center, you have to show proof of citizenship.
17:27
Speaker 2: To get on a plane, you have to have you know,
17:29
Speaker 2: you have to show a photo. I d there are
17:32
Speaker 2: so many things that people don't seem to have a
17:34
Speaker 2: problem with that the government does, that private private sector does,
17:38
Speaker 2: and yet to vote, which is, you know, determining the
17:42
Speaker 2: future of our country. Because you're determining those people who
17:45
Speaker 2: are making those those those those long term votes and
17:48
Speaker 2: representing us they have a problem with. You got to
17:51
Speaker 2: ask yourself why, And I would say it's because they
17:54
Speaker 2: already have a game plan around folks who are legally
17:57
Speaker 2: here doing that. So I think we need to pass
18:01
Speaker 2: the Say Act. I'm fighting for it. I'm on that bill.
18:04
Speaker 2: I wish this was something that we didn't have to do.
18:08
Speaker 2: And I really feel like it's only been recently that
18:11
Speaker 2: this has even become controversial. And again, it's because you've
18:14
Speaker 2: got Democrats who are desperate. It's part of their power base.
18:18
Speaker 2: Illegal immigrants are part of their power base, and they
18:20
Speaker 2: don't want to do anything that will shine them away
18:23
Speaker 2: from having more of a voice in determining our government.
18:26
Speaker 1: Why do you think John Thune dragged his feet on this?
18:28
Speaker 1: Do you know? I mean you he's got the ability
18:30
Speaker 1: now with the with the majority, to get rid of
18:33
Speaker 1: the filibuster, even make it a talking filibuster, which actually
18:36
Speaker 1: means you have to argue until you're blue in the
18:38
Speaker 1: face and fall asleep, and then we can vote on it.
18:40
Speaker 1: Just letting people say, hey, we're gonna filibuster, then go
18:42
Speaker 1: to lunch. John Thune can end that today. Do you
18:45
Speaker 1: have any idea why he's dragged his feet on this.
18:48
Speaker 2: I think they're afraid of and I can't speak for
18:50
Speaker 2: I can't speak for us for sure, opinion, I think
18:53
Speaker 2: they're I think what they're concerned about again is setting
18:56
Speaker 2: a precedent. But the problem is is that the Democrats
18:58
Speaker 2: continue to set precedent and every single time they are
19:01
Speaker 2: in power and they roll us over and over again,
19:05
Speaker 2: and Republicans have got to come back fighting. Enough is enough.
19:09
Speaker 2: If we have a bill that we've got to get
19:10
Speaker 2: past that will save this country, we need to do it.
19:13
Speaker 2: And we cannot allow a few voices who just want
19:16
Speaker 2: to be disrupted, absolutely like you said, to continue to
19:18
Speaker 2: shut us down, because as soon as the Democrats get
19:20
Speaker 2: in power, they're going to roll us. It's going to happen.
19:23
Speaker 2: We've seen it before. We're going to see it again.
19:25
Speaker 2: But I think it's the ones who are still optimistic
19:28
Speaker 2: that the Senate can work together as an adult body.
19:31
Speaker 2: I think the Democrats have proven them wrong. I think
19:33
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer is desperate and he will do anything that
19:35
Speaker 2: he can to retain power, which includes ending the filibuster.
19:40
Speaker 2: If they are able to get power again.
19:42
Speaker 1: Well, I have you, I've been miss I have to
19:44
Speaker 1: go here about the hope you don't mind it. We
19:45
Speaker 1: get a little gossip you here, I'm seeing this guy,
19:48
Speaker 1: Colin Allred calling out James Tallerico for calling out Jasmine Crockett.
19:53
Speaker 1: It's listen, We're both Texans. We love our state. I
19:56
Speaker 1: think it's going to be an easy win for the
19:58
Speaker 1: Republican whether it be Corny or Packson or Hunt. Somebody
20:03
Speaker 1: on the Republican side I think will become the US
20:04
Speaker 1: Senator or continue. It depends on a corning can get
20:07
Speaker 1: back in. Having said that, on the left, I mean,
20:10
Speaker 1: are you enjoying this as much as I am? I
20:11
Speaker 1: mean all Colin Allred was laying on like a bench
20:15
Speaker 1: press bench. I just got done with my workout and
20:16
Speaker 1: I'm sweating, and how dare James Talerico come after me?
20:19
Speaker 1: A black man going after a black woman. I mean,
20:21
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to watch, isn't it. I'm enjoying it.
20:25
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure I have see the Democrats going
20:27
Speaker 2: after each other than Republicans going yes each other. But
20:29
Speaker 2: I will tell you. I will tell you that as
20:31
Speaker 2: much media and attention as this race is generating, there
20:37
Speaker 2: is a concern that you're going to see hundreds of
20:40
Speaker 2: millions of dollars pumped in on the Democrat side to
20:43
Speaker 2: support these Democrat Senate candidates, and those are going to
20:47
Speaker 2: be used in districts like mine, the district's like District
20:50
Speaker 2: twenty four in the Dallas Fort Worth area to be
20:53
Speaker 2: able to pump out a ton of money to try
20:55
Speaker 2: to get more Democrats to the polls. So, as Republicans,
20:58
Speaker 2: we have got to be all hands on deck together
21:02
Speaker 2: focused on a message of this is what we have
21:05
Speaker 2: produced for the American people, this is what we're continuing,
21:07
Speaker 2: this is what our morals are. We are for, you know,
21:10
Speaker 2: standing up for a secure border, UH and putting more
21:13
Speaker 2: money in people's pockets, allowing parents to have more of
21:16
Speaker 2: the say over their kids, for your reasonable uhlaws that
21:21
Speaker 2: represent the fact that we have an American dream and
21:23
Speaker 2: want people to be able to have the opportunity to
21:25
Speaker 2: be able to fight for that and not get squashed
21:26
Speaker 2: or the government regulations. We want small businesses to be
21:29
Speaker 2: able to flourish. We have to have that focused message
21:32
Speaker 2: and all stand together. So yes, am I am I
21:34
Speaker 2: relieved that the Democrats, you know, are biting at each
21:37
Speaker 2: other's heels. Yes, but the same token. I also know
21:40
Speaker 2: that we have to come out with a strong message.
21:42
Speaker 2: You already mentioned it earlier. We've got to make sure
21:44
Speaker 2: that it's resonating with folks, our constituents and getting them
21:47
Speaker 2: out to the polls.
21:48
Speaker 1: You couldn't give me five minutes of fun with the
21:50
Speaker 1: infighting on the left. Really, you couldn't give me five minutes, Beth.
21:52
Speaker 1: Now listen, the concern is real.
21:55
Speaker 2: I'd be distracted by that.
21:56
Speaker 1: I understand. No, no, no, I don't don't want to
21:58
Speaker 1: be distracted. But it's kind of it's kind of nice
22:00
Speaker 1: to sit back and watch it not be us. But
22:02
Speaker 1: there is there is an issue on our side. Let's
22:03
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit. I don't I don't
22:05
Speaker 1: know if you're endorsing anybody, but I've had Wesley Hunt in
22:07
Speaker 1: studio I've had just had Ken Paxton studio. Probably we'll
22:11
Speaker 1: have Corning again. I've been doing corning for twenty years.
22:13
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we've got good candidates on our side.
22:15
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. The national polling that you just
22:18
Speaker 1: alluded to. They show like James Tallerico forty seven over
22:22
Speaker 1: Paxton forty six. I mean, they're literally showing it to
22:25
Speaker 1: be a neck and neck race. Do you think it's
22:27
Speaker 1: really that close that this mess on the left can
22:29
Speaker 1: can get this Senate seat?
22:32
Speaker 2: You know, I would have said no until Saturday night
22:34
Speaker 2: when I watched Senate District nine in Texas that had
22:38
Speaker 2: historically that was a Trump plus seventeen the candidate, and
22:42
Speaker 2: that the Republican candidate that lost. There was almost a
22:45
Speaker 2: thirty point switch switchover and the Democrat won. Now it's
22:50
Speaker 2: you know, I am optimistic that in November. There's a
22:52
Speaker 2: number of things that happened here. We had horrible storms,
22:56
Speaker 2: you know, snowstorms, ice storms that cut people from the polls.
22:59
Speaker 1: Y did people vote it? I mean we were all
23:01
Speaker 1: freezing here in Texas.
23:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we we had over three hundred thousand
23:06
Speaker 2: people that showed up in the regular election in a
23:08
Speaker 2: special election and the run off it was like less
23:10
Speaker 2: than it was about nineties, less than one hundred. So
23:15
Speaker 2: we have to get our voter base out. But that
23:17
Speaker 2: being said, you know, I am optimistic. You are absolutely right.
23:22
Speaker 2: I think the Republican Senator whoever is the forerunner and
23:26
Speaker 2: that is going to win. But I know that you
23:28
Speaker 2: can't take it for granted. And I think, you know,
23:30
Speaker 2: we've got to get good candidates on the ballot. We've
23:33
Speaker 2: got to make sure that they get supported. We've got
23:34
Speaker 2: to get our base out. We have to have that
23:37
Speaker 2: winning message, which we have. You know, the hard part
23:40
Speaker 2: is done when you start seeing the results. We're passing
23:43
Speaker 2: bills that are helping. It's getting that message out and
23:46
Speaker 2: making sure that we're all staying on that and not
23:49
Speaker 2: biting each other. And you know, I don't want to
23:51
Speaker 2: get caught in the cross fire, you know I am.
23:54
Speaker 2: I'm friendly with Paxton, with Cornyn, with Wesley Hunt. I
23:58
Speaker 2: want to see them all succeed of so our country succeeds.
24:02
Speaker 2: But again, Saturday, and I think it was an extreme
24:06
Speaker 2: example of what can happen if we do not all
24:08
Speaker 2: get out to the polls and recognize how quickly these
24:11
Speaker 2: seats could flip if we're not diligent.
24:13
Speaker 1: Now it's quite the wake up call. I can't I
24:15
Speaker 1: can't disagree with you. Let me let me ask you
24:17
Speaker 1: this going into what's going to happen in November. I mean,
24:19
Speaker 1: I'm apprehensive. I certainly understand why people would be would
24:23
Speaker 1: be worried about it, but I still feel like, not
24:25
Speaker 1: only can you hold the house, you might be able
24:26
Speaker 1: to gain in the house if we do it right.
24:28
Speaker 1: The messaging the way it is now, and I'll go
24:30
Speaker 1: back to what you and I talked about earlier in
24:31
Speaker 1: this conversation, The messaging in the way I see it
24:33
Speaker 1: now is our site isn't doing a good enough job.
24:36
Speaker 1: We're trying, but our site isn't doing a good enough
24:38
Speaker 1: job to overcome big Hollywood, big sports, big music, big academia,
24:43
Speaker 1: and of course the left machine in Washington as well.
24:46
Speaker 1: So what has to change between now and that we
24:48
Speaker 1: still have time? What has to change between now and
24:50
Speaker 1: then to make sure the Michigan gets out? And You're right,
24:52
Speaker 1: you and I are doing it. We're trying our best.
24:54
Speaker 1: There are people who do like what I do, and
24:56
Speaker 1: they're doing their best. But when they own all of
24:58
Speaker 1: those those mechanisms, conglomeration of leftism in this country that's
25:03
Speaker 1: hard to defeat. What do you do well?
25:06
Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's a small group of people
25:07
Speaker 2: that actually watch the news and are focused on that.
25:11
Speaker 2: The rest of the people are voting with what they
25:12
Speaker 2: actually deal with. They're what they're seeing. And so if
25:15
Speaker 2: people start feeling that, you know, they are their wages
25:18
Speaker 2: are rising higher than inflation. If they start feeling, you
25:21
Speaker 2: know what, I can rocks a little bit and I
25:23
Speaker 2: might be able to buy a home now because mortgage
25:25
Speaker 2: rates are down because I'm seeing more you know, there's
25:27
Speaker 2: there's more upper job opportunities for me to have to
25:30
Speaker 2: get greater pay. When they start seeing those things, Oh
25:33
Speaker 2: this small business has taken off, Oh this this this
25:36
Speaker 2: company is expanding here, and you know they're they're actually
25:39
Speaker 2: investing more money in our community, and we're starting to
25:42
Speaker 2: see you know that that come out of the ground.
25:44
Speaker 2: Those are the things that people will actually recognize and
25:48
Speaker 2: recognize and appreciate. We can sit here and we can
25:51
Speaker 2: talk about the distractions that really don't affect as many
25:54
Speaker 2: people's lives. Is I think the Democrats want or we
25:58
Speaker 2: are looking at with the vast majority of people are
26:00
Speaker 2: feeling in their pocketbooks are seeing Do you feel safer
26:02
Speaker 2: now when you go out at night? You know, you're
26:05
Speaker 2: feeling that that crime is under control. You are seeing
26:08
Speaker 2: more police presence or you're seeing less less. You know,
26:10
Speaker 2: people who are being attacked on your subways. You know
26:13
Speaker 2: you're you're able to take the subway now because for
26:16
Speaker 2: the first time in years, you actually feel like you're safe.
26:18
Speaker 2: Those are the things that that people are meaningful and
26:22
Speaker 2: will bring people to the polls. So again, that is
26:24
Speaker 2: what Republicans are focused on. I know that's what this
26:27
Speaker 2: administration is focused on. The more wins we can have
26:30
Speaker 2: that are practical, that are realistic, that are felt throughout
26:33
Speaker 2: the country, the more likelihood that we're going to be
26:35
Speaker 2: able to keep that the support and going into the
26:38
Speaker 2: November the terms.
26:39
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. It's Betha and Didine District
26:41
Speaker 1: twenty four Republican, great date of Texas. I appreciate all
26:43
Speaker 1: the time. Today, let me just finish with this. It
26:46
Speaker 1: always seems like if there's bad weather or if somebody's got,
26:49
Speaker 1: you know, a belly ache, it's like our side that
26:52
Speaker 1: doesn't go and vote there seems to always be so
26:54
Speaker 1: much more expedient voter apathy on the right, and I
26:57
Speaker 1: don't know why that is. The left takesvoting seriously. I
27:00
Speaker 1: don't think they're as knowledgeable as we are. I think
27:02
Speaker 1: they go there and vote on whoever somebody told them
27:04
Speaker 1: on the Grammys to vote for. But how can we
27:07
Speaker 1: solve that? I think there's voter apathy on our side.
27:10
Speaker 1: And if we said in our hands, we're going to
27:12
Speaker 1: have Minnesota all over this country. Minnesota is a conservative state, Beth.
27:15
Speaker 1: I think you and I both know that. But for
27:17
Speaker 1: so long, I think maybe fraud is involved too. But
27:21
Speaker 1: for so long Conservatives and Republicans have been told your
27:24
Speaker 1: vote won't make a difference, Why go and we have
27:26
Speaker 1: to go.
27:28
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you when I ran in twenty twenty,
27:31
Speaker 2: I ran in the most competitive district in Texas. It
27:36
Speaker 2: was the only district that Trump lost that a Republican
27:40
Speaker 2: picked up. And I didn't know that in a congressional state,
27:43
Speaker 2: only one. So I out we outvoted Trump by about
27:49
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand votes. Wow, there is messaging and it works,
27:52
Speaker 2: But I will tell you I can't. I cannot tell
27:55
Speaker 2: you enough how many people I talked to that just
27:58
Speaker 2: assumed because it's Texas. Just assume because they knew me,
28:01
Speaker 2: and they assume because it was a quote republicancy, that
28:04
Speaker 2: we weren't going to have a problem. And so again
28:08
Speaker 2: it is definitely voter apathy because they're just they assume
28:11
Speaker 2: that Texas is going to be Republicans. But they don't
28:14
Speaker 2: seem to understand is we have had a changing demographic.
28:18
Speaker 2: We have a lot of social media that does you know,
28:21
Speaker 2: turn turn what our younger generation is seeing and how
28:26
Speaker 2: they're voting and what they're thinking. We've got to respond
28:28
Speaker 2: to that. We've got to be much more engaged. I
28:31
Speaker 2: think you've seen that. You know, you've got in the
28:33
Speaker 2: Riley Games of the world, that Charlie Kirk's of the
28:36
Speaker 2: world who are recognizing that and going directly to these schools,
28:39
Speaker 2: these universities and talking to students to make sure that
28:42
Speaker 2: they understand at what's at risk and how important it
28:45
Speaker 2: is for them to get engaged and vote and know
28:47
Speaker 2: what they're voting for. And we need to do more
28:49
Speaker 2: of that. And we are outreaching to our youth as
28:51
Speaker 2: as much as we possibly can, whether or not it's
28:53
Speaker 2: through our Youth Council, whether or not it's going directly
28:56
Speaker 2: to schools and universities and getting them engaged. But this
28:59
Speaker 2: is how they're learning now. It's not through New York Times,
29:02
Speaker 2: it's not through the Washington host It's through TikTok videos
29:05
Speaker 2: of what they see on YouTube and other and other sites.
29:08
Speaker 2: So we have to get more engaged and more smart
29:10
Speaker 2: about how we do it. But we also can get
29:13
Speaker 2: so desperate for social media attention as Republicans that a
29:17
Speaker 2: lot of the Republicans have got these huge social media presents.
29:20
Speaker 2: It's because they are really negative on other Republicans. We've
29:24
Speaker 2: got to figure out a way around that. And again
29:27
Speaker 2: I try not to be negative on Republicans, to stick
29:30
Speaker 2: to what my constituents actually feel, what their what their
29:34
Speaker 2: their concerns are, what their interests are, and what we're
29:36
Speaker 2: doing to respond to it in solutions. So I think
29:39
Speaker 2: it can It can work, but you know, it's not
29:41
Speaker 2: always as sexy as a as a massive fight or
29:43
Speaker 2: you know, something that's that's nasty or or battlefield material.
29:49
Speaker 1: So I get it.
29:51
Speaker 2: We can say Republicans are boring, right because we're worried
29:53
Speaker 2: about things that actually affect people and talking about regulations
29:57
Speaker 2: as important as as that is to all of our
29:59
Speaker 2: small bus This is we hear it over and over again.
30:01
Speaker 2: It is important, that is to our healthcare providers not
30:03
Speaker 2: to have to have be strangled by regulation cheaper gas
30:07
Speaker 2: because you're lifting off the foot on the next of
30:12
Speaker 2: our energy producers. It's not sexy to talk about, but
30:15
Speaker 2: it really does make a difference, and that's what we
30:18
Speaker 2: have to focus on.
30:19
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. It's a disaccorinted for a Republican.
30:22
Speaker 1: Beth Van Dying, great date of Texas Vandying dot house
30:24
Speaker 1: dot go. Follow her everywhere on social media as well.
30:27
Speaker 1: Thanks for all the time and all the access, and
30:28
Speaker 1: thanks for explaining all that stuff that's going on right now.
30:30
Speaker 1: The mechanisms of Congress really don't make any sense to
30:34
Speaker 1: a lot of Americans out there, and I think you just
30:35
Speaker 1: spelled it out very very well and I appreciate you
30:37
Speaker 1: doing that. Let's do it again soon, Beth, Thanks so much.
30:40
Speaker 2: Great to see you. Great to see you, and stay warm.
30:42
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