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Camp Season · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to being boundary Corner podcast.
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  I am Curtis welcome. I Brian siglo buddy we back on a
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  Wednesday night. It's been a while but here we
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  are. Three weeks.
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  It's the oldest. He's the man, we got things
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  going on. You're traveling, we got forts
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  going on with kiddos. You got cool wrapping up.
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  Clearly you look at my face, I spent time at the pool this
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  weekend. I got a little tan.
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  You're going on. I'm not even not do that.
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  I did get a couple bike rides in.
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  So bite me when you did my car that if you also power washed
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  Which is probably why I have a terrible time if they good on
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  you man. You did more yard with metadata
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  had to be done. I mean, you know, there's a few
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  places you look around. It's like, okay, we got to do
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  this. And it's if you commit to doing
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  it's like six hours, right? See it like dinner time?
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  But yeah, it has been three weeks guys.
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  A lot of stuff going on and Hokie Nation.
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  We're going to cover a variety of topics tonight but Brian
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  let's kick it off. And let's talk with let's start
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  with big news of the day and let's talk basketball with
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  Justin mutts announcing he will be returning.
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  Yeah, that's big news guys that really you know we had been
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  hoping that we were going to get that word for our own sake.
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  You know, obviously I know, Justin was exploring.
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  Yes, potential draft prospects there, but I think he knows that
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  we're glad to have him back and we're glad that he's running it
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  back for another year with this hokey team.
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  And when we look at this hokey team now with what, Mike young
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  has been able to do in the offseason between the recruiting
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  class and some of the transfer portal.
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  Pickups this is a pretty, pretty strong, not only starting five,
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  but probably the eight or nine main rotation that we're looking
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  at for the 2223 season coming up.
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  Oh, for sure. I mean, so let's let's let's
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  just talk about it. When we were talking about it
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  earlier today at starting five. Center power forward, you know
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  the transfer Grant the seal yep we feel right.
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  I think so. I think that's going to be the
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  essentially a Luma 2.0 in some ways.
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  I think you know there's a couple parts of the seals game
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  that may be a little stronger than aluminum.
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  A couple that might not quite be as polished.
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  At least it we're we're a little was at this time last year but I
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  think overall that was a good Plug and Play pick up in the
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  portal. Obviously, getting months back,
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  that's huge. Huge group, huge for leadership,
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  huge group, home court, play the matchups.
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  He creates what he can do, especially passing out of the
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  pose to guys. Like, another really good leader
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  Hunter Couture. Yeah, you got, you got Couture
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  and then I'll obviously we got Maddox back there as well.
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  Both of those winged guys. Both can shoot the three well if
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  you see Maddux, develop a little With his defense and his handle,
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  he's going to be a big-time offensive threat.
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  Yes. So I'm looking forward to see
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  what he can do with that. And then obviously, we got John
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  Padula, running the point. Yes, and as much as we can all
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  love. Shown love, storm, Murphy comes
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  calling, Sean Murphy storm, Murphy.
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  He was a good point guard, but that was the one element He was
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  missing, was the be able to create and There was at times
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  last year, you saw pedulla. Come on.
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  And there were times he could create not every single
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  possession. He doesn't have that skill level
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  because if he had that skill level, he would probably already
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  have played with your college and already being the pros.
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  But to have him running the point where, you know,
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  occasionally he can just go, right, you just go create his
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  own shot. You know, I know there were
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  there's there's a lot of concerns about is there anybody
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  behind them? But I think between Maddox
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  Couture him in Rodney rice was, but shout out the combo guard.
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  Rodney rice one of the highest recruit ever signed, you know,
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  top 65 player for Star, little handle with him to get, you
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  know, I think we'll be okay at point guard.
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  I think, obviously, It's like somebody said it today and I
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  wish I could remember who it was.
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  So if you said it in some of the chats where in and more you said
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  it on Twitter not trying to steal them just like the point
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  of it's just like the NBA usually, whoever your backup
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  point guard. Is you're not doing the same
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  things, you are with your start. Yeah, I think that's the big
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  thing especially with Rowdy rice because that's going to give him
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  some time to do what he does. Well right now out the gate.
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  Yep. And as he develops, some of
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  those, those finer skills that he's going to be going to need
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  to take over that more full-fledged starting role
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  sometime in the future for the Hokies.
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  Whether that be on the floor, at the same time at the two guard
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  or whether that be, you know, being a true combo and running
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  the point. Point for a good portion of the
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  game. I don't think it might kind of
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  system that there is a great need for a capital P.
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  Capital, G point guard sure, it's definitely not that type of
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  system. So you having a guy like, like
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  Rowdy rice is definitely kind of a very good fit for this type of
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  system. Yep.
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  And then, two guys, we mentioned that earlier, you know, in the
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  year about the transfers with Poteet in Camden.
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  I mean, obviously, Sleep OT. It's going to give you that
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  again your Center Off the Bench who has played significant
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  minutes. You had some good size and then
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  cannons kind of the unknown and Kim and become that extra wing.
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  And if he becomes that extra Wing, you feel like you got
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  Couture Mattox, and him, then you've got Maddux could do Le
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  and rice. And then the Poteet Basile mutts
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  and hopefully Camden kind of coming that piece where you can
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  maybe play a three wing. You know, you take months out to
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  get A breather you play Basile Camden Couture Maddox.
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  You play like a three wing type you know, offensive game.
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  Yeah so it's I said this earlier and I'll say it again.
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  I want to temper expectations early because I think what's got
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  to happen is similar to last year.
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  You've got to figure out where the new pieces fit obviously.
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  When we figured out how they fit, what happened is, what
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  happened? But before that, you know, what
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  did you say? You think we're you feel like
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  where we were last year is where you think we should start this
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  year, right? I think the expectations we had
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  pre season last year is where they need to start this year.
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  I think this is a top-to-bottom, a deeper team than last year.
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  I think it is going to take a little bit of time for it to
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  jail. So I think the expectations at
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  the start of last season, we're probably a little high.
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  Higher than they should have been, considering what we had to
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  do in the backcourt, in terms of kind of kind of figuring out
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  those rotations. I think it's probably going to
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  be a little bit of figuring out those rotations, especially in
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  the frontcourt this year, as we replace two-thirds of that.
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  And I think it's going to take some time to find those, but I
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  like the versatility of the line of you can go bigger.
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  You can go smaller and then you can go Wing heavy.
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  So you get a little bit of everything, right?
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  I like that, there is those matchups.
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  We can really work, matchups, depending on The opponent's
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  strengths and weaknesses. There's some, there's some teams
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  and we're going to play We're Poteet.
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  Might be the, the guy, the first guy to start might be.
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  This might be the the center you want out there, but there's
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  going to be, I'd say the majority of the games, the seal
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  is going to get the majority of those minutes.
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  I agree. But I get I like the versatility
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  that this gives us because everybody off the bench has some
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  degree of proven caliber play. And that's what we didn't have
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  last year at the start of the Season proven caliber play.
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  Way in niches niches teacher, big banger get rebounds.
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  Play hard defense. If you know, you know, if you
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  decide to have Couture, come off the bench can handle can hit
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  threes. However.
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  So, you know, when they come in, they give you something versus
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  like you said. Last year, it was the unknown
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  of. What are they going to give us
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  one other piece. The basketball news that broke
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  the saint confirmed. He's going to Kansas State.
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  I don't know if this was Is a direct move in relation to
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  months coming back. If months doesn't come back,
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  does this? This on return?
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  But best of luck to him going to a pretty solid program out in
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  case state so that will wrap up the basketball segment.
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  All right, we go from a high to we gotta, we gotta go to a
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  little low here, you know, softball.
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  You know, after the regional weekend, where they went three
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  games in 24 hours, which was unbelievable.
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  You know, being Kentucky, be Miami of Ohio late night into
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  Sunday morning and then back to back against Kentucky.
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  You know, the fuel was rocking. The place was rocking our hotel,
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  girl had herself a weekend. And he did have a weekend,
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  shout-out. Mackenzie Lauder and then the
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  Florida Gators role in town. And essentially a, you know, top
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  ten Team all year. They got ranked 12th in the
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  couple to filing polls Friday night early, Saturday morning
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  started off great, Hokies went six nothing but from there it
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  didn't, you know, ends in heartbreak losing.
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  Subsequently was a decent, start to gain to a couple missed
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  opportunities, a couple things. Didn't quite go, the Hokies way,
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  and then Florida capitalized and closed out the game too.
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  And it felt That was that was the switch, right?
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  Like, yeah, the way the game to kind of ended it was, was
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  foretelling of how the game on Sunday was going to roll, right.
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  I mean, so many times you see that in in all sports, I mean in
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  all sports. You see it's the old, the old
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  Avalanche effect, it starts and then all of a sudden it tumbles.
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  But for the program in general Hello season.
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  You know, in the season, ranked top five Why do a lot of top?
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  Eight teams. We're losing.
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  Not making it to Oklahoma City. For the World Series in, you
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  know what, what, what what's really good in my opinion yet?
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  We're losing killing right? She's an All-American, you know,
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  years ago and I cannot think who was it?
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  Another All-American picture. Why is it blinking on me?
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  You don't get that kind of all every year.
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  Now, what I will say is my opinion, is this Emma.
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  Emma has a chance to be to get up in that upper echelon.
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  Could you could she be he? Richard I can't put that on but
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  I think you've got your number one going into next year.
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  Where I don't think it's going to be a slip from top five to
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  completely out. I think this team is going to be
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  a top 20 team next year. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely,
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  that gives you some some promise for what's going on in the
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  future. It's going to be nice to see how
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  Emma develops. Going into next year, especially
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  with somewhat of a leadership role probably put on her heading
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  into next year, so, but I don't think you see a steep ramp up
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  with you. I think it's going to be, you
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  know, a step back. I think it would be hard, not to
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  say that there will be some step back, I think losing healing in
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  particular. Just because of, you know how
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  shut down. She was from Canada, season
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  isn't really the majority of less your 23 years.
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  Look at it that I think there's going to be potentially some
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  step back especially early in the season but I think it's
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  going to be alright I think I think they're going to still be
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  a competitive team next year and looking forward to seeing what
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  they do. Again for bringing with me,
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  let's roll from the softball Diamond to the baseball diamond
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  because after big Series wins against Louisville against Duke
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  to close out the regular season, they lose in pool play, in the
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  ACC tournament to eventual Champion care.
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  Carolina, I don't like pool play format.
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  I'll say that. Because it, if you're one of the
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  best four teams, it gives, there's nothing there to be game
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  where in reality, probably what should happen and I'm harping on
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  this, I didn't mention you this earlier I was going to do it in
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  reality. The top four seeds should be
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  waiting for Friday night. And everybody else have to play
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  to get there. And then you go from 8 to 4 to 2
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  and there's your championship game.
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  Not this, we're going to pull play, no, you want to pull play
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  the other eight teams and let them figure out who can win, do
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  it. If you're one of the best four
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  teams in the ACC, you should be sitting Friday night with your
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  one ready to play. Yeah, I agree.
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  I agree. I think it's not the best
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  format. You know that I'm a big believer
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  in the format that you play in the regular season should be the
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  format that kind of goes in the postseason.
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  But we talked about that a lot with the email be wild card.
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  And yes, I hate the fucking play in games.
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  Yes, you did. I don't like pool play.
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  I get why people. People do like it or at least,
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  you know, give it, give it some some Credence there.
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  But you should have more Advantage as a top for see than,
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  just the tiebreaker in the pool. Yeah, that's yeah.
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  Because it's two games. Yeah.
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  It's two games and usually, they're starting midweek.
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  So, if you're throwing your one, you're throwing your one on a
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  short rest for them. So, you know, just get rid of
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  that format top for because, you know, not everybody makes it
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  their team's always left out because there's 12 teams.
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  Usually, there are two or three teams that do not get invited,
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  put your, for let your other eight played at the four best
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  teams and then. But anyway, let's digress from
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  that a top eight seed. Number four, seed in the
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  country. From where this baseball program
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  was just a few years ago, to be a national seed to have a
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  Blacksburg Regional potential, Super Regional.
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  I mean, it's the right guy was hired with makes another
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  fantastic move. And I mean in the world of
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  baseball, the collegiate baseball, if you can
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  consistently get top aides, you are a national powerhouse.
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  It's a question. Yeah.
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  And I mean, this is very much the, you know, like the 2004
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  football team. This team was not know, expected
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  to do a whole lot. I think they were picked to
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  finish what next to last or last next-to-last ACC.
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  And here we are. You had the best team in the
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  regular season you had had. It had a decent little run there
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  in the championship and finished up with the horsey for the
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  region. So I don't really think anybody
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  could have expected more out of this team and they really
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  stepped up and shown that, you know what?
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  They've got going on there. That the kind of the mix of
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  players that they have and the guys are bringing in, he is
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  starting to turn to clip a little bit, especially if they
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  can get you. Some steps up and pitching.
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  If the pitching can be consistent.
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  I mean, the way, the way, the way they knock the ball out of
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  the park is just next level. And I think they got a fairly
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  favorable draw in their region, release compared to some of the
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  other ones out there. So Yeah.
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  What are you? What's your thoughts on this
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  pool of? Well, for the region will write
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  State. We've already played this year
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  and so we seeing what they have, I'll have to pull up real quick.
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  That record Colombia is obviously the Ivy League school
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  representation in and I don't want to not those two teams
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  because they did win their conference.
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  They did make it to the NCAA tournament, but But I'll look,
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  we look at this bracket. It's Gonzaga in.
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  That is your big problem because Gonzaga legitimately has an ace
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  and they are really good pitching team, you know, under
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  for totally are a for the whole team and they're led by a guy by
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  the name of Gabriel Hughes and Hughes has a mid-90s guy with a,
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  the reports are mid 90s guy with a strikeout slider in with a
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  changeup that runs at about 79. He is intentionally and they're
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  looking at in the Pro comparison with Max Scherzer.
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  Prediction is likely a top-15 pick, he's 64, he's 230 pounds.
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  His biggest issue was control. He's got his control under wraps
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  in that shows this season where he struck out 131 and he walked
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  35. Okay, so, so yeah, he wrote the
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  consistency level there, but here's the deal.
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  In all likelihood, this team will not see Gabriel Hughes
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  because in the world of baseball you roll the biggest dice.
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  If you don't throw your a saint game one and you know I'm gonna
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  I'm gonna throw it here to local because I heard this story a
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  couple days ago about the Regionals here in Richmond.
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  Deep Run was playing Highland Springs, VA, 89 yang.
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  Deep Run, chose not to throw their number one and apparently
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  this kids really good like going somewhere to play college
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  because they were like we need him for when we play the
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  wannsee. Guess what happened?
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  They lost to Highland Springs. They never got to throw their
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  eggs. So we probably won't see Gabriel
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  cues but we likely you're probably going to see a guy by
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  the name of Owen wild. Aiden 13.3 are a if they win
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  Friday. That's who we're probably going
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  to look at Saturday but we seen this team.
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  Hit. Good pitching?
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  Yeah, yeah. Big time.
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  Six. Again, that awful not terrible.
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  Here's your big, here's your big differential, 37 home runs.
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  That is a massive gap between 110 the Hokies put up in
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  something. I was more shocked with and I
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  brought this up to you a little earlier today.
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  We're not when we were looking at their stats and I told Brian
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  276. Not a lot of Homer's your first
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  thought was okay. They're running team, then
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  they've attempted less steals than the Hokies Hokies what are
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  the Hokies at steel? Was you have that they're right.
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  Where is my stolen bases. So, the basic tips. 71 out of
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  87. This team has won 39 and 55.
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  So they're not one of those teams that is getting on base
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  and trying to run you and a lot of hit-and-runs clearly.
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  So this, this isn't small bowl. No.
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  Just, they are what they are. They are pitching team and Not
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  seeing Hughes if they choose not to if they choose to you know
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  throw him Friday which they should you know it's a hurdle to
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  overcome and would you say Brian five?
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  If we score more than five runs a game than they are.
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  That's why I thought if we can get 67 runs that should do it.
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  And we're averaging over 80 close to eight runs a game.
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  Yeah. So if we can just get our
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  average you should be able to handle them pretty well.
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  Also, I can't wait to see the crowds out in Blacksburg the way
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  they were with the softball team last weekend.
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  Definitely going to be a rock and house for the baseball
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  regionals there. You know it, I'm assuming.
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  Do we have a TV time yet? For this one?
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  I haven't seen it yet, but it's got to be out there because they
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  usually put that stuff out there pretty quick.
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  We're going to effort. This will take it out in the
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  post-production. Laugh people, you get to see us
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  stare at things Hang on. We're coming.
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  We're coming. ESPN AC, oh my God you got to be
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  kidding on acc Network, put it on acc Network, 7:00 Friday
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  night. The network is good for
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  something. Took long enough that's so
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  annoying. Like you're like being Network
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  Friday night 7:00. So those who are going in town
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  for that, probably going to have two or three hours for little
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  tailgate, maybe a little hidden downtown up, so maybe more of a
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  raucous crowd, but I definitely think we see, Super Regionals,
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  you probably already read. You know, who were lined up to
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  play against Super Regionals if they win their Regional, the
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  Florida Gators. Let's get them on here.
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  Let's get paid back, let's do it.
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  Let's do something else. We want to hit real quick.
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  You will just announced a few weeks ago.
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  Tim settle giving a significant gift to the football program.
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  I think it's awesome to see a temp success.
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  He's had in Washington sign on his deal with Buffalo this year
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  but also seen, you know, not only him but obviously the
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  Fuller's. But seeing these guys who are
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  coming I'm through make it in the NFL turning back around in
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  contributing to me there in the precedent.
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  For any guy who goes out, has a good NFL career, give back to
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  what made you got to love it. Look, Tim and general.
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  I mean, awesome guy. Yeah, and I mean, I think you're
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  some some of this is it's nice to see guys that I said, at the
• 25:25
  time. Hey.
• 25:28
  He dropped way too far in this trap.
• 25:33
  He's going to show you something in a couple years and he just
• 25:36
  one of those players. I know Kendall Kendall was one
• 25:38
  of those players to be somewhat he was able to do in in Casey
• 25:45
  and now with Washington again. So, you know, good on them for
• 25:50
  forgiving back to the program that they helped build.
• 25:55
  And you love to see it right here.
• 25:58
  Love to see the guys that you cheer for, you love to see their
• 26:00
  names on the building. You love.
• 26:02
  See their names on the rooms. I mean, it's just it's something
• 26:06
  that you can look back on those days and say, yeah, hey, I saw
• 26:10
  him play back in the day, I saw him play and he's doing big
• 26:14
  things here, and he's giving back said, the president, he's
• 26:18
  really doing what you should be doing.
• 26:20
  If you, you know what, if you make it to that level, remember
• 26:24
  where you came from? And no one had guy like Tim.
• 26:26
  I'm sure probably his hi School is reap rewards on to his
• 26:29
  community up in Northern Virginia, is recored with well.
• 26:32
  So big town, you know. Obviously he's playing for the
• 26:38
  bills. You can't root for him too hard.
• 26:40
  I can root form a little bit but you know good for Tim Lee.
• 26:47
  She's not in divisions. There you go.
• 26:51
  Alright, so one last piece before we go to break, we want
• 26:54
  to hit on is obviously the two-day trial.
• 26:58
  Came to an end this week. He was found.
• 27:02
  Obviously, if you haven't heard not guilty on second degree,
• 27:05
  murder charges. No additional charges since you
• 27:10
  were brought up against him, this is something.
• 27:13
  It was roughly a year old when everything broke almost to the
• 27:17
  day, almost to the day. We wanted to hit just a couple
• 27:23
  minutes of it. Because it needed to be
• 27:27
  addressed to recruit. He was a member of the Virginia
• 27:30
  Tech football team at that point in time.
• 27:35
  And it's kind of one of those things after we didn't say much
• 27:39
  on the year ago, because we knew a lot of things are going to
• 27:43
  start coming out and in the travel, a lot of things came
• 27:47
  out. There was a lot of speculation
• 27:48
  out, the gate this time last year, honey.
• 27:52
  And some of it we weren't sure what was fact and what was
• 27:56
  fiction we wanted to wait until everything came out before we
• 28:02
  had any sort of meaningful Discussion on this thing.
• 28:04
  Yeah. And I think we found out a lot
• 28:08
  at the trial and I think that ultimately you know if the
• 28:12
  charge is murder to that the ultimate the jury had to find
• 28:18
  him not guilty based on the information.
• 28:21
  Yeah, that's what it was as the evidence was being presented of
• 28:25
  everything that took place between him and the deceased.
• 28:30
  In this case you started it started stacking Enough.
• 28:33
  And as you started stacking up, and you think about what murder
• 28:36
  to is you read the definition by law.
• 28:38
  It's not murder too. If potentially the attorney, the
• 28:44
  District Attorney's down, there would have taken a different
• 28:48
  path. Maybe there's a different
• 28:50
  outcome, but they didn't. It wasn't murder to even if you
• 28:54
  take away the self defense situation, right?
• 29:00
  Well, I think that think that just sealed the deal on the
• 29:03
  whole thing. Absolutely.
• 29:04
  Once there was evidence that there a knife was present, then
• 29:08
  that really took it in a completely different direction
• 29:12
  110%. So that's closed.
• 29:16
  And, you know, whatever May going in that young man's life
• 29:20
  from here on out, God bless him and best of luck to him.
• 29:25
  And with that, before we get into more topics tonight, we are
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  Now back to the episode All right, Brian.
• 29:56
  Let's get into some more football and a lot of football
• 29:59
  in the back half of this episode here.
• 30:02
  Let's start by taking a look at a recent commitment. 2023
• 30:06
  football, the on the top 25 somehow ranked 22nd right now
• 30:13
  in, just, a few days ago, the key, he thought of Highland
• 30:17
  Spring, then five foot nine hundred sixty five pounds, He's
• 30:23
  listed as an athlete, you know. Definitely going to look M at
• 30:27
  wideout probably Corner commit. He's a 3-star number 24 in
• 30:33
  Virginia. Would have you seen what have
• 30:38
  you heard and what do you think about mr.
• 30:40
  Heath potential in Blackbird, he's an athlete with a capital.
• 30:44
  A you said wide receiver. You said corner but he's also
• 30:49
  going to be a return specialist for us.
• 30:51
  I believe. So look for some of that either
• 30:55
  out the gate or at least by year to being a contributor there.
• 31:00
  I think this is a good pick up obviously you know you want to
• 31:02
  tap that Highland Springs tap as Much as you can.
• 31:07
  So I like it, I like I like that.
• 31:10
  It's continuing the trend with getting solid players from
• 31:17
  reputable institutions in and around the state.
• 31:21
  It's keeping that Trend going. It's still not a.
• 31:26
  You still haven't had that, you know, blow your skirt up yet.
• 31:32
  But at the same time, nothing but solid across the board.
• 31:37
  Yeah, I'm hoping that as we go into Camp season, which is what
• 31:42
  we're about to talk about a little bit more here.
• 31:44
  Once we get more into Camp season, we start seeing maybe at
• 31:47
  least one or two of those, you know, bigger fish.
• 31:51
  Start to start to come our way a little bit.
• 31:54
  But right now I'd say this is a good pickup, he's probably just
• 31:59
  below the hammer and and love it in my book in terms of where
• 32:05
  they stack up in this class. Yeah, I think it's a good
• 32:09
  pickup. All right?
• 32:11
  Yeah. I mean you just raised the
• 32:13
  question about when we're going to get the big one like when
• 32:18
  they're going to be that one where everybody kind of the
• 32:20
  Great. Has the eyebrow and also, I
• 32:23
  think about that but I also wonder when is this regime going
• 32:26
  to break through down the 75 or up and over?
• 32:29
  Because right now it's been, it's been Richmond kids.
• 32:35
  It's been, you know, Southwest Virginia kids along with
• 32:39
  obviously the ones on the out-of-state.
• 32:41
  So is there, anybody potentially?
• 32:45
  In the state of Virginia in the 75 in Nova where we can sit back
• 32:51
  here and kind of say okay, yeah that's going to be the
• 32:55
  Breakthrough one and is it maybe even not a breakthrough?
• 32:58
  Maybe not, you know, your high for or a four-star guy.
• 33:01
  But is it from an institution? That is known for rolling out?
• 33:07
  Continuous Prospect, that's why it's nice to see the Highland
• 33:10
  Springs as why it's nice to see a DeMatha, yeah.
• 33:15
  I think the thing to do is keep your eyes on Phoebus and Oscar
• 33:18
  Smith, I think there's some potential for us to make some
• 33:22
  some headwinds there. I think it Phoebus, probably
• 33:27
  maybe there's a Target in this class and I think an Oscar
• 33:30
  Smith. There's a Target in this class
• 33:31
  and the next class that could potentially cause a little bit
• 33:36
  of a shift there. But I think when you talk about
• 33:40
  Richmond compared to Nova and 757.
• 33:43
  I think we released with the last regime, sat better in
• 33:47
  Richmond, that we sat in 757 and Noble and I think I think the
• 33:53
  reputation of Virginia Tech was a lot more solid in the RV.
• 33:58
  A at the end of Wednesday's regime than it was in the 75 and
• 34:03
  Nova. I think this is just again price
• 34:07
  talked about building those bridges and repairing.
• 34:09
  Those things he had a lot more work to do with Nova and a lot
• 34:12
  more work to do in the 75 than the average Point.
• 34:15
  That's a day of the point to make.
• 34:16
  Because at the end of that regime, we were picking off some
• 34:20
  kids from Richmond to flip at the end.
• 34:23
  Look, the kid for it from a teleca, getting some 7, getting
• 34:26
  some Holland spring kids to walk in.
• 34:29
  So I think like price said, we've got to build
• 34:33
  relationships, we don't have them here yet the sort of that
• 34:38
  when JC came in that kind of Next map, completely fixed.
• 34:43
  But put some duct tape and some of the series on the
• 34:47
  relationship down in Richmond. Definitely went or and obviously
• 34:51
  we're reaping a little bit of the rewards from that.
• 34:53
  Right now. He brought the belt sander and
• 34:56
  smooth it out a little bit. Be smooth that out a little bit
• 34:59
  and then Prime this regime along JC, you know.
• 35:04
  We feel good about Richmond, Brian.
• 35:08
  If you did not see the news, I think you Did the 25 recruiting
• 35:12
  Limit Out 2023 and 2024? What do you think about that?
• 35:18
  No limits. It's better than nothing.
• 35:20
  I would have, honestly preferred to have three to five more
• 35:25
  scholarships tacked, onto the 85 then, for the next two years to
• 35:29
  be unlimited. But in terms of how this affects
• 35:32
  us, I think we may not go over 25 in 23 big just because it is
• 35:38
  a rebuilding year. Yeah.
• 35:40
  We'll probably not sitting the best with some of the more
• 35:43
  higher caliber players are classes going to be mostly
• 35:48
  mid-to-high three stars. Anyway, it's not going to have a
• 35:51
  ton of four stars, but I think in 24 when we're under 85 really
• 35:57
  well at that point and we're starting to make some Headway in
• 36:02
  the state and around our footprint a little bit more
• 36:05
  where we're established. I think that's when you take a
• 36:08
  shot and load up as much in the boat.
• 36:10
  As you can because, you know, you'll be able to get
• 36:14
  essentially all of those spores that you're targeting.
• 36:17
  And then all of those threes that are in that, you know,
• 36:20
  hiring three rains that you're targeting, then make some some
• 36:24
  business decisions on the back in with those mid to low three
• 36:28
  star kids. Yeah.
• 36:32
  Well the whole thing that this year, you say no the only way
• 36:36
  this year, you can get that bump is if you win.
• 36:40
  Like if you if you tell me if your tell me, you're thinking 67
• 36:46
  wins, I think, with our schedule, we can get six and I
• 36:50
  think I think six is enough to roll into 24 with with a little
• 36:56
  bit of momentum. I go, mr.
• 37:00
  Brightside. Let's say, print pride comes in
• 37:02
  and wins nine games, can he attacked when we attack 23 more,
• 37:07
  because then you're talking about, it's a regime change.
• 37:10
  It's a it is a coaching staff that can recruit better and
• 37:14
  you're coming out year one and winning nine games going to a
• 37:17
  solid Bowl. Obviously, if you're doing that
• 37:20
  their players producing on the field.
• 37:23
  Well, I guess the question is going to be, can you, is there
• 37:26
  going to be enough players left at the end of this cycle?
• 37:29
  Once you get Results on the board to really make some, some
• 37:33
  late season flips and if you are able to do that, is there enough
• 37:38
  that still keeps you under 85? Because more than likely we're
• 37:42
  going to use that one scholarship open that we have.
• 37:45
  I would say to fill in at least one need position before the
• 37:48
  start of fall came. Maybe um because obviously
• 37:55
  you've already mentioned it, you know it we're June 1st, there's
• 38:00
  been no discussion of additional scholarships from the NCAA.
• 38:04
  We thought it would be like three to five just to help teens
• 38:07
  out, but it's not hurting teams. It's hurting kids, they're going
• 38:13
  to be a lot of kids that don't have don't have a home.
• 38:16
  They're basically screwing the student-athlete great job into a
• 38:21
  Screw student-athletes. That's what we're here for
• 38:24
  versus. If you give three to five, open
• 38:27
  scholarships to every team. What's that a minimum of 400
• 38:33
  additional kids in the portal would find homes because they
• 38:36
  would find homes? Yes.
• 38:38
  Oh, what is? He double A decided to do is
• 38:40
  that they said, okay well we understand that the situation we
• 38:47
  put them in with the covid year and then having no relief is
• 38:50
  going To put pressure on the Freshman incoming classes, we're
• 38:55
  going to give them some relief. So most of freshmen that would
• 38:59
  have found homes. Normally are still going to find
• 39:02
  homes, but we're literally going to fuck anybody that wanted to
• 39:05
  give the portal. Yeah, that is in a high-caliber
• 39:08
  front, front end, immediate starter, at most power, 5,
• 39:13
  institution type player. Yeah, developmental players is
• 39:17
  where it's true. Yeah.
• 39:18
  In the thing, is with developmental players, you had
• 39:20
  three, 25, every school will take a swing.
• 39:24
  And a kid, every school would take a swing at three to five
• 39:28
  kids to get on their roster just to be like, he has potential.
• 39:32
  What if we're the guys that unlock it?
• 39:36
  They are so it's such an enough Institute.
• 39:39
  I don't want to go into a TWA continues to have their head up
• 39:42
  their own ass. Oh that's not that's not going
• 39:45
  to change until I see definitive proof.
• 39:50
  I'm going to completely continue to shit all over them.
• 39:54
  They are a awful governing body especially when it comes to the
• 40:02
  things that ironically make them the most money.
• 40:07
  Exactly. All right.
• 40:10
  Let's put the this Brian being used last week broke for shop
• 40:16
  for now on the Highland Springs defensive lineman D, committing,
• 40:21
  after Simon has Loi. There is so many things not
• 40:27
  adding up to this story. I mean, every you want to know
• 40:32
  why, because when he committed about Days.
• 40:37
  Prior to this announcement of be commitment.
• 40:39
  I mean he was literally one of the first guys that was on his
• 40:43
  post. Oh yeah.
• 40:45
  I mean like you said as of just a few days before this went down
• 40:50
  he was he was retweeting and saying, welcome home brother,
• 40:53
  and all this other stuff. So obviously whatever has
• 40:57
  happened was something that either was unforeseen or was
• 41:03
  something that somebody thought somebody was doing something and
• 41:08
  they weren't we've had Whispers and stuff on the timeline about
• 41:15
  the off. The field stuff playing a role
• 41:18
  here. We don't know what it is.
• 41:20
  I'm not going to speculate what it is.
• 41:23
  Yeah, we don't see it seems like that is the why I'm not specific
• 41:29
  here but generally that's the why I think the what's next is
• 41:33
  what's most important is it Point, this isn't a prior regime
• 41:38
  failure here. This is just one of those things
• 41:41
  that happens. So well the what's next is this
• 41:45
  is just a gray shirt, is he, is he going to Juco for a year?
• 41:50
  He said his approval is still open.
• 41:51
  I don't know if that is if If we, if he at this point, I don't
• 41:57
  know if we've read about it as Lor we haven't gotten official
• 42:00
  word on that. Yeah, this point if we have and
• 42:04
  some other institution wants to pick him up and I guess it's
• 42:08
  free game, but otherwise this looks like a potential Juco and
• 42:12
  then we kind of make potentially, keep our
• 42:14
  relationship with them and try to Circle back for for the next
• 42:19
  class here. Yeah, it's going to be very key
• 42:22
  of what he does, whether it's a prep or giucose, You we don't
• 42:26
  see a lot of guys prep anymore, but depending on what the
• 42:29
  situation is, if you see him go prep, I fully expect him to come
• 42:34
  back to Tech if he goes Juco. That's usually a little longer
• 42:39
  rap because if you're going Juco, it's almost a two-year
• 42:42
  commitment. It would you co school and then
• 42:45
  getting two years at your four-year institution.
• 42:49
  So what in the oncoming days and obviously we'll be following
• 42:53
  this when he makes a decision of what.
• 42:55
  Going to do next year but it's just it kind of hurts your heart
• 43:00
  because he is under the radar. He is one of those Team guys and
• 43:06
  you love when he committed it, even though he's always been
• 43:09
  kind of the tweener. Was he going to be a big end?
• 43:12
  Is he going to play? You know?
• 43:14
  Undersized 3. You felt like he was going to
• 43:17
  have success here and now it's back seated at a position of
• 43:23
  need. Where if he Comes into Tech over
• 43:26
  the summer, gets on the way program.
• 43:29
  We figure out his body type in 6 months he could be potentially
• 43:33
  helping out next year. So it stinks on every single
• 43:37
  front from, you know, just a personal standpoint of liking a
• 43:42
  kid and then from a standpoint of football saying this guy,
• 43:46
  potentially could have helped the team in 2024 as a depth
• 43:49
  piece in years down the road. Yeah, I mean, you know, we
• 43:53
  talked glowingly about, Ishod Purnell on this podcast is one
• 43:57
  of our favorite recruits from this class so this isn't
• 44:01
  something that we're saying are we doesn't matter.
• 44:03
  He definitely matters and not just because he's a potential as
• 44:10
  a true freshman of potential 3D that either your defensive in or
• 44:17
  playing three technique there. That's not, that's not the only
• 44:19
  thing that we're talking about here, we're talking about its
• 44:22
  This is just a player that the type of player that you want to
• 44:25
  have on your team, from a leadership perspective and the
• 44:29
  way he was recruiting other players to come to Blacksburg.
• 44:33
  That's the type of player you want on your roster.
• 44:35
  Full, stop always. So it definitely hurts anybody
• 44:38
  saying otherwise, you know, You're lying to yourself.
• 44:44
  I mean, it still, if it's a big move I just don't think it
• 44:47
  necessarily is something that we can really dwell on because it's
• 44:52
  not really anything that the program could have done
• 44:54
  differently to stop this from happening.
• 44:56
  Exactly. All right, let's flip this.
• 45:00
  It's that if the title of our episode Camp season in buddy, do
• 45:04
  they have them in Blacksburg this month seven camps?
• 45:09
  Basically, from now until I think the 26th, Is the last one
• 45:13
  or 27, that is a lot of camps in a short period of time and then
• 45:18
  one additional one in July. You know this is this is what it
• 45:26
  was pre kovin. This is what we saw every year.
• 45:29
  Yeah so this is the return of what I think a lot of us have
• 45:35
  been missing about the offseason is Yap like this where you get
• 45:39
  guys on campus? A lot of the time were come out
• 45:43
  see how they do get a lot of some offers Throne that weren't
• 45:48
  committable all of a sudden our and you get a bunch of people in
• 45:50
  the boat at one Yeah, you get these these guys that you know,
• 45:57
  you were on the fence but they get to Blacksburg.
• 45:59
  They enjoy that good time. The camp and all of a sudden, a
• 46:02
  guy that was a Penn State or UNC, lean is now committed to
• 46:06
  Virginia Tech, that's the type of shit we like to see.
• 46:09
  That's the type of shit that I hope we see in the coming weeks
• 46:12
  and I'm looking forward to it. I'm really always.
• 46:15
  This is one of my favorite times is kind of seeing how this plays
• 46:19
  out on the recruiting Trail. So I'm looking forward to to
• 46:21
  June and and what we're able to accomplish.
• 46:24
  Hopefully on the recruiting Trail 100%.
• 46:26
  And you mentioned it already. Like I always think it's always
• 46:30
  like I'm thinking right now. 23 sleepers, there's probably some
• 46:33
  low rated three star that's going to get to the camp and at
• 46:36
  these camps are a lot of times there's Rivals.
• 46:39
  There's two four seven Riders, there's evaluators for them.
• 46:42
  They're right. There's guys on getting height
• 46:45
  weight clocking looking how they did on shuttle drills, how they
• 46:48
  perform in these activities we don't want to know.
• 46:51
  Yes, yes, we do. For those who are really
• 46:55
  interested in a camp, our episode.
• 46:58
  It's June 23rd of last year with Coach, Robbie something you want
• 47:02
  to know what goes on inside these camps.
• 47:04
  Listen to that episode beginning in because it is a great
• 47:08
  knowledge point of what happens. But you sit here and I'm sitting
• 47:11
  here thinking, there's going to be some kid that's on our radar.
• 47:16
  Maybe an in-state kid that we really want heavy, he gets down
• 47:21
  He blows Camp up. And actually coach come thing.
• 47:27
  Yep, there it goes right there. It's who's going to camp for
• 47:29
  free? That's who to watch.
• 47:31
  I don't know how we can determine that Robbie you and I
• 47:35
  will find out. But but who's the sleeper, who's
• 47:40
  the kid who they thought was? 511 is actually 62.
• 47:44
  Who's the kid? They thought was 170 s actually
• 47:46
  190. Who's the kid?
• 47:49
  That's got more muscle mass because a lot of these kids have
• 47:52
  not been seen in six to eight months and now they're going to
• 47:56
  start being seen again. Now, you mentioned it though,
• 47:59
  these kids have only been seen in past and they haven't been
• 48:02
  seen up close and personal. So that's really something else
• 48:04
  too. I'll never forget.
• 48:07
  Give me invite up to UVA. And Ron Prince telling me that I
• 48:11
  look bigger and pads Fuck him till this day.
• 48:20
  Yeah, Ibis. I must look bigger and pads.
• 48:23
  Fuck you. But it's also Brian mentioned,
• 48:26
  getting a kid on campus that potentially may be texting the
• 48:30
  top five and you can get them in and closing flip them, but it's
• 48:34
  also a great chance now come by building relationships.
• 48:38
  We've heard it from Brent pry, the whole time.
• 48:40
  Getting the jump on 24, we're behind Prize already admitted
• 48:46
  that, but having these camps and having these younger kids come
• 48:49
  in quicker, way to get that relationship built is having
• 48:53
  them in house and having your staff.
• 48:56
  You know that we feel is significantly better than what
• 48:59
  we had get in there ear and show them things and, you know,
• 49:04
  preach what we want here at Virginia Tech.
• 49:09
  Yeah, like I said, I think this is a, this is a good time to
• 49:11
  find those sleepers guys that are bigger than you thought.
• 49:15
  I think the bigger thing for me is that, you know, I want to see
• 49:18
  us some of the bigger names that we've been targeting on this
• 49:22
  trail that you talked about earlier, won't be, get that big
• 49:26
  fish. Here's where you get those guys
• 49:29
  on campus in an environment with a lot of other guys and they
• 49:33
  start selling the program to themselves, right?
• 49:36
  I mean there's going to be other players that have already
• 49:38
  committed. They're coming to these Cancers
• 49:40
  and the other players that have a heavy interest in Virginia
• 49:43
  Tech that are going to sell it. Sell this thing for you a little
• 49:46
  bit, once you get everybody in one area, let's close some of
• 49:50
  those bigger fish. Let's get maybe a flip here and
• 49:53
  there of guys that are leaning to other schools and get a
• 49:58
  little bit of momentum, I think we're doing pretty well on the
• 50:01
  recruiting Trail overall, but I want to see more of those High
• 50:04
  threes and maybe low four stars in this class.
• 50:08
  I'd like to see A couple of them thrown in there too, so we can
• 50:11
  get a little momentum carried into next year.
• 50:14
  I know we're behind this year. Everybody knows we're behind
• 50:17
  this year at the same time. We got to start winning some of
• 50:20
  these winnable battles so we can start climbing the ladder a
• 50:23
  little bit exactly. Alright Brawn.
• 50:28
  So Every year cbs4, the puts together, their top 65.
• 50:36
  Power five, coaches. You guys don't recall.
• 50:40
  Last year we actually run. We did ours.
• 50:44
  We talked about our opt-in coaches fun to do.
• 50:47
  It's fun to discuss. Usually the guy that does it is
• 50:51
  time for Nellie and I'll say this comp or Nelly is one of my
• 50:53
  favorite college football writers out there.
• 50:56
  He is, is he comes at it with a very different approach.
• 51:00
  He's a really intelligent guy, he lives up in Big Ten country
• 51:03
  so he doesn't have You know he's I think he's an Illinois grad or
• 51:08
  he likes Illinois or that's the closest team doing good.
• 51:11
  Have the automatic SEC buys he might have subconscious as
• 51:15
  exactly. So he came up with the list this
• 51:20
  year and I pulled it up and he only did his top 25 first and
• 51:24
  it's the it's the normal stuff and you know but then he
• 51:27
  released 26 265 just a few days ago and of course I clicked on
• 51:33
  it because I wanted to see his thoughts on Brent.
• 51:35
  Fry. Well.
• 51:39
  I'm still a fan but Tom Fornelli ranked Brent price 65 of 65 in.
• 51:46
  This is what he put on him and not some of the other guys were
• 51:50
  going to discuss here. I have a simple rule for filling
• 51:53
  out my ballot. If you've never been a head
• 51:55
  coach before, you're starting at the bottom of my rankings.
• 51:58
  That's not true. We'll discuss that in a second.
• 52:01
  Many of my fellow voters feel the same, so price shouldn't
• 52:05
  take it personally as the new head, man at Virginia Tech for
• 52:09
  Pears to begin his first season as a head coach at any level.
• 52:13
  All right. Okay cool.
• 52:16
  Now there are six guys on here that are first-time head
• 52:20
  coaches. In addition to Brent fry.
• 52:23
  That we're going to talk about the first three.
• 52:26
  I have absolutely no issue with where they're ranked and that
• 52:29
  they're ranked ahead of a front pry.
• 52:31
  You just lick before, we get to the veins, let me throw a caveat
• 52:34
  out here. This isn't a ranking of baseball
• 52:40
  on the roster makeup or based on the roster town are based on
• 52:43
  this that and the third this is literally just based on what
• 52:47
  this coach has done in the past where they are ranked right now.
• 52:52
  Has nothing to Do what their current year, roster makeup or
• 52:54
  any of that shit. So, with that being the, the
• 53:00
  parameters, I'll let Curtis continue here.
• 53:03
  All right, there for guys are tuning, three guys that do the
• 53:07
  pedigree of the coach and where they landed.
• 53:10
  I have absolutely no issue with wear their rank or that they're
• 53:13
  ranked had a Brent pry. One is Brent, venables venables
• 53:18
  has been one of the best defensive coordinators over the
• 53:20
  last 10 years in college football.
• 53:23
  He's ranked 45th. No issue.
• 53:25
  Also, Tom you put somebody way really high as a first-year head
• 53:29
  coach. So you're not living by your own
• 53:31
  rules. Sexy venables could have been
• 53:34
  higher if some of the Oklahoma's best talent had a trip out to
• 53:39
  Southern Cal but he still got top 15.
• 53:41
  Yeah he's exactly, but I'm saying, he could have been top
• 53:44
  40 if he did lose a decent portion of his down.
• 53:49
  I'm the second is Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame I have no issue
• 53:53
  with them being there with his credentials coaching there last
• 53:56
  year. No issue with him being there.
• 53:59
  I have no issue with the Georgia.
• 54:01
  Defensive coordinator, Dan Landing, who went up to Oregon
• 54:04
  at 54. No issue.
• 54:06
  You've been, you know, coordinator Georgia won the
• 54:08
  National Championship. He's going to a pretty much
• 54:11
  about a top-10 roster. No issues, no issue.
• 54:17
  So I'm cool with those guys. But again, we're not supposed to
• 54:20
  pay no attention to the roster. So I don't know how I feel like
• 54:25
  the rankings are paying attention to the roster even
• 54:28
  though they're saying they're not on their parenting to the
• 54:31
  roster and where they go. Well, you would think that but
• 54:34
  then, you know, we go here. These are my three issues and
• 54:39
  we're going to start at number 62 and it's Joey McGuire.
• 54:45
  No, John McGuire is Brian. I do now makes this technique
• 54:52
  Texas Tech head coach you got hard really early in the
• 54:54
  process? I think he was the first guy
• 54:57
  now. You know, Fornelli puts on here
• 55:00
  about how excited the fans are, as he has High School
• 55:04
  connections in the state of Texas.
• 55:05
  But basically up until 2017 he was a high school football coach
• 55:10
  in Texas. The last five years.
• 55:13
  He's been a coach not a coordinator.
• 55:17
  And associate head coach at Baylor under Matt ruin.
• 55:21
  Dave Aranda, Brian, how long has Brent pry?
• 55:25
  Coached Collegiate football. A lot longer than Joey McGwire
• 55:32
  Galloping. So you sit here and it's like,
• 55:36
  yeah, Joey's, a good recruiter, but Joey's coached at the
• 55:40
  highest level of Collegiate football for five years and he
• 55:44
  wasn't even a coordinator who says 26 years to do you count
• 55:50
  his GA time or the time he was at East Prosper with East.
• 55:55
  The the D to school before he came to GAA. 29. 29 years.
• 56:03
  So there's my first issue. This is his first head coach
• 56:07
  job, just as Brent Pride, he is coach for five years.
• 56:11
  He's never ran. He's not a particular coach.
• 56:13
  He is a recruiting coach he's just been two years younger than
• 56:17
  Pride. He's only yeah, two years young
• 56:18
  and pie. He also is going to Lubbock,
• 56:23
  there's been two people that had success at Texas Tech Spike
• 56:26
  Dykes and Mike Leach no one else has had success at Texas Tech in
• 56:31
  the last 35 years. So minimal time is a high as a
• 56:38
  Collegiate coach going to a program that has only had two
• 56:42
  good runs of success. In recruiting against the likes
• 56:46
  of Brent, venables, against Texas, A&M against Texas against
• 56:51
  LSU against Arkansas. He's 62 them.
• 56:58
  Prime. Yeah, I really don't have.
• 57:07
  I put him dead last because of coaching me was file is based on
• 57:13
  cozy experience and pedigree of program dead fucking last.
• 57:18
  Now the next guy who is one spot ahead, is the one you really
• 57:22
  went off on today and that's Mike Elko who is going to do
• 57:28
  Elko, basically started really guided his flame going at Wake
• 57:33
  Forest. Had a good defense there.
• 57:35
  Went to Notre Dame. Good.
• 57:37
  Offensive coordinator there. And then he went to Texas, A&M
• 57:41
  with Jimbo and put together. Good defense.
• 57:45
  They're not world-beater, but a good defense.
• 57:49
  He's going to do. Elko has not coached as long as
• 57:54
  pry. But Brian going because you were
• 57:58
  on a soliloquy earlier today like how badly people might go
• 58:01
  ahead of him. Number one, he's into
• 58:04
  automatically automatically should put him Below.
• 58:07
  Virginia Tech number two, he's coming from Texas A&M.
• 58:12
  He has a defense that in the time that they were sharing
• 58:16
  defensive coordinator rolls per I had better.
• 58:18
  Overall defense has. Let's also talk about how Texas
• 58:22
  A&M is essential to UNC of the fucking suc.
• 58:26
  And yeah, they can recruit. Yeah, they get all this talent
• 58:28
  but they don't do shit with a twins.
• 58:32
  I mean. Texas A&M has not one shit, at
• 58:38
  least, brick cry. And our buddy, James Franklin
• 58:42
  have done something in the Big Ten.
• 58:44
  They want me to be know how to State.
• 58:47
  They believe they've done the things that you want a team to
• 58:50
  do. So I mean I just pedigree wise I
• 58:55
  don't think what Elko did it? Texas A&M was any more
• 58:58
  impressive than what Pride did at Penn State and I think that
• 59:04
  cry He's at the better program right now.
• 59:06
  Yeah. And that's that's no bias but if
• 59:10
  you can present bias to this I'll gladly listen to it.
• 59:13
  But Duke is not a better football program.
• 59:15
  The Virginia Tech. Know.
• 59:18
  So and even in our worst we blew the last year we were so.
• 59:27
  So so please, you know, in the bullshit there, you know, and I
• 59:32
  know it's one spot. but, Motherfucker, you 64 Brin price
• 59:40
  should be at least one spot ahead of him in 63, which 63 is
• 59:45
  dickered from Washington who I did put on here because the guy
• 59:48
  Coast, half a season, had a good record.
• 59:50
  He should have been significantly further down the
• 59:52
  list. That's my opinion, but he's
• 59:55
  going from Notre Dame and am to preferable, top, 10 recruiting
• 1:00:02
  getting a lot of talent programs to do.
• 1:00:05
  He's going back to his Wait days where his best defense was 46,
• 1:00:08
  which for Wake is very good, he's very good.
• 1:00:13
  So what you're telling me is he's going to have Duke, oh it's
• 1:00:19
  coming. It's coming.
• 1:00:21
  Put that on the screen, it's coming.
• 1:00:25
  So At least one spot ahead of might go join McGuire at the end
• 1:00:30
  because Jordan choir hadn't have the thing now, last but not
• 1:00:34
  least. Tony Elliott.
• 1:00:39
  Tony Pony. So it will never die, its 60th,
• 1:00:45
  they will never die. So basically this is the thing,
• 1:00:49
  the longtime Clemson offensive coordinator finally gets his
• 1:00:52
  chance to run the show on his own.
• 1:00:54
  Elliott has coaching great players in his time with the
• 1:00:56
  Tigers and he thinks Virginia is the perfect place to take
• 1:01:01
  commands. He inherits an offensive, scored
• 1:01:03
  a lot of points last season. His offense last season didn't
• 1:01:07
  score, a lot of points as an offensive coordinator, and they
• 1:01:10
  haven't scored a lot of points since Trevor's.
• 1:01:12
  Last year. My issue again with the Virginia
• 1:01:17
  thing in toning was a CO o see when they want a national
• 1:01:23
  championship with Jeff Scott so he was a coating.
• 1:01:25
  See not the full time OC. Jeff Scott obviously went South
• 1:01:28
  Florida. That's really ugly.
• 1:01:30
  He's probably getting fired in October and let's see well the
• 1:01:34
  miracle out. But again, I look at this and
• 1:01:37
  it's like, okay, he's had, he's not coached as long but he's had
• 1:01:42
  more success. So, if you want to put them
• 1:01:45
  ahead that's fine in that case, but I look at where he's going.
• 1:01:50
  I also look at the regimes around them.
• 1:01:55
  Do brown. You said it to me earlier today.
• 1:01:58
  Who are their best tires? I mean, their best hires were,
• 1:02:02
  there were tensions, keeping Hagen's and keeping 2J where
• 1:02:05
  their best hires kitchens is the only outside higher than anyone
• 1:02:10
  would honestly get their skirt blown up a little bit over.
• 1:02:14
  So you got three guys most of them on the offensive side of
• 1:02:19
  the ball there. You know, what's the defense
• 1:02:24
  giving look like what they going to do on defense?
• 1:02:27
  They they were awful on defense. They were also in the secondary.
• 1:02:32
  So, I don't know if that's going to be a better situation for
• 1:02:34
  them and that's even if we're counting, you know, makeup of
• 1:02:37
  the roster and all this other bullshit.
• 1:02:39
  Well, make up a roster, your coaching staff in general
• 1:02:42
  because I think, you know, if you look at what Brent, did
• 1:02:46
  coaching staff wise to me, you take, you take a guy like Chris
• 1:02:51
  Moore who was, is a protege of his who had been an SCC in an
• 1:02:56
  FSU for a few years. You take a guy like Derek Jones,
• 1:03:00
  who has Q coach did you come to cutcliffe who coached at Ole
• 1:03:04
  Miss and Texas? Tech he is a proven division.
• 1:03:07
  One football coach. There is no more no less than to
• 1:03:11
  say that about him and then got like Boeing and FL hope, you
• 1:03:20
  know, ACC guy. But then in just, just in this
• 1:03:24
  alone, Grim Pride, getting joe Rudolph should put him ahead of
• 1:03:28
  Tony Elliott. He literally went out and got
• 1:03:31
  one of the best offensive line coach been in the country and
• 1:03:33
  convinced him to come together as good as retaining to Jay was
• 1:03:37
  Rudolph. Definitely Trump them try.
• 1:03:39
  If you're retaining to Jay, he's your best coaching move and the
• 1:03:43
  coaching move, the Promenade was better than that.
• 1:03:46
  But that game over man came in but if it's just them Ron I'll
• 1:03:51
  look at Brent Prime say Brooke prai has been at Vanderbilt and
• 1:03:54
  Penn State. The one thing that he has been
• 1:03:57
  the whole time as he is been the defensive coordinator or Cody,
• 1:04:00
  see is consistency. Where Tony, especially with DJ.
• 1:04:08
  The wheels fell off a little bit with Kelly Bryant.
• 1:04:12
  Remember Kelly, Brian, I do. The team was good.
• 1:04:17
  Not great on offense. Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  And it can we say this too? I mean, I know that Tony's had
• 1:04:25
  some success recruiting in a lot of different areas with this is
• 1:04:29
  still his first time coaching outside of South Carolina.
• 1:04:33
  It is It is you Berman, what Berman and Clemson, right?
• 1:04:38
  Yeah, that's it. So we're in product and what?
• 1:04:45
  Pennsylvania Virginia Georgia Tennessee, Pennsylvania.
• 1:04:53
  So basically he's got like a weird little diamond shape.
• 1:04:57
  He's touched pretty much everywhere in the footprint in
• 1:05:00
  terms of recruiting in his career.
• 1:05:03
  So at worst and worst, I believe Brent price.
• 1:05:08
  Should be 62 worst. So we'll see.
• 1:05:13
  We'll see. But the first two I think got me
• 1:05:16
  more than anything. The last one.
• 1:05:17
  It's a UVA coach. So, we have to talk about it.
• 1:05:21
  We haven't talked shit because it's UVA and, and Elliot was a
• 1:05:24
  primary target for a lot of the fan base and potentially win, at
• 1:05:29
  least when he started the process because of how far
• 1:05:32
  things. Got what?
• 1:05:34
  Looks like they got in last cycle when we thought, went a
• 1:05:38
  was going to get fired after 2020.
• 1:05:40
  So we just listen, our brains were a little loose, then that's
• 1:05:45
  all I can say our brains were a little bit loose during because
• 1:05:50
  we were, we had Scar Tissue, we just needed a change, who's
• 1:05:54
  needed a change? Well, I think, you know you get
• 1:05:56
  more information. I think we saw your 2021 if
• 1:06:00
  nothing else gave us a glimpse. Clemson's offense without Trevor
• 1:06:06
  Lawrence. Well, but 2016, or 2017 gave us
• 1:06:11
  a view of them without DeShaun Watson.
• 1:06:14
  The writing was kind of on the wall then.
• 1:06:17
  And then they get Trevor for the next three seasons and won a
• 1:06:20
  national championship, make way. All the only thing you can see
• 1:06:23
  right now is that he's definitely walking into a
• 1:06:25
  favorable quarterback situation and UVA, he is, but they've lost
• 1:06:30
  some stuff there. All right.
• 1:06:35
  So speaking of changes, Brian. I sent you this article because
• 1:06:38
  you hadn't seen it. The town of Blacksburg is
• 1:06:43
  proposing and is our last little bit of the night.
• 1:06:46
  The town of blackburg is proposing tweaks to the mass
• 1:06:50
  outdoor Gathering ordinance because of what happens on
• 1:06:54
  Center Street steering game days.
• 1:06:59
  Yeah, somehow, this is getting played on his like, well people
• 1:07:03
  are having parties in their walking off the paths, on the
• 1:07:06
  way to the stadium walking, they're going through the woods
• 1:07:10
  and they're going off the path. Listen.
• 1:07:15
  First of all, they need to be very kind of glad.
• 1:07:18
  You literally have this section right here where the mass amount
• 1:07:22
  of students I would guess. Last time we walk through their
• 1:07:25
  back in 19 this probably that that was a lightness.
• 1:07:29
  Probably 700 kids there. Yeah.
• 1:07:32
  Yeah and that was on a Thanksgiving weekend so I'm
• 1:07:35
  assuming it's probably five to seven hundred more.
• 1:07:40
  On the normal game day. So probably 1500 kids?
• 1:07:42
  You're at least getting kids congregated in one location near
• 1:07:46
  the stadium. In the some of the crap that
• 1:07:50
  they're proposing is just stupid.
• 1:07:51
  It's like what's also do but it's like they're here but it's
• 1:07:59
  not even enforceable. Like what's the point of the
• 1:08:02
  wanted to point out of the point of the word means?
• 1:08:04
  But any, any in their talk about people going through the woods,
• 1:08:07
  getting knocked off path and the drunkenness and all, well, a
• 1:08:09
  they're in college. It's just going to happen.
• 1:08:12
  But here's a bigger key. If you go to a Virginia Tech
• 1:08:15
  football game or if you have been going, especially over the
• 1:08:17
  last Decade, the Center Street has gotten bigger and bigger and
• 1:08:20
  bigger. you know, not to go to Center Street, it's going to be
• 1:08:28
  Bash. It's going to be a lot of
• 1:08:30
  people. It's going to be tougher to get
• 1:08:31
  down Center Street through the woods over to the stadium.
• 1:08:36
  In those Common Sense fans are going to avoid Center Street if
• 1:08:40
  if they have a problem with it. Yeah, if they have a problem
• 1:08:43
  with that type of atmosphere on their way to the stadium, which
• 1:08:47
  is all non family-friendly atmosphere on the way to the
• 1:08:51
  stadium. I'm using air quotes there for
• 1:08:54
  the people listening important. Just I mean this is this is no
• 1:09:03
  fun police. Yeah, the no fun police.
• 1:09:07
  It's it's very to me is very counterproductive because if you
• 1:09:13
  go to the game you know what it is.
• 1:09:19
  So you know to avoid it and in some cases like for us if we go
• 1:09:25
  just me and brine well we probably partaking walking
• 1:09:28
  through Center Street to go to the stadium yet because it's you
• 1:09:31
  know, huh. Make sure you reminisce on
• 1:09:34
  Saturday. Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  Back in my day. But so for those out there who
• 1:09:47
  live in Blacksburg, you know, go and just say this is stupid,
• 1:09:50
  stop it right there. And we know one of our favorite
• 1:09:55
  people will be probably at that town council meeting.
• 1:09:59
  Just Jeremy. Don't drink any Jameson before
• 1:10:01
  you go. Okay, we can wear the crown.
• 1:10:04
  You can wait. You're not mrs.
• 1:10:09
  Bartel Brian is anything broken since we started, hey, only an
• 1:10:13
  hour. And 10 minutes.
• 1:10:14
  This is a short episode. So trim episode number by our
• 1:10:19
  standards at least, not seeing anything.
• 1:10:22
  That's broken in the last little while here.
• 1:10:26
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• 1:10:31
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• 1:10:37
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