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In Memoriam: 2025 · Children of the 80s

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  Speaker 1: Children of the Eighties is brought to you by Q
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  Speaker 1: or download the app Welcome Back to Children of the Eighties.
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  Speaker 1: I am one of.
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  Speaker 2: Your lively hosts Jim and with me is Elvirah, Mistress
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  Speaker 2: of the Dark who likes to bring our audience down
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  Speaker 2: and talk about death. It's my co host, Lindsey. I'm
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  Speaker 2: your ghost host. You're not the ghost host. You just
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  Speaker 2: like to talk about the ghost as a host. So
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  Speaker 2: this probably is your favorite episode of the year when
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  Speaker 2: we talk about people that died in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. I only had issues with one of them where
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel good about it. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it, but we'll get into that in a minute.
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  Speaker 2: And that's on our list for tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Yes, But other than that, even though it's sad
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  Speaker 1: that we've lost them, I think that it's important that
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  Speaker 1: we honor them. I agree. So I take pride in
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  Speaker 1: doing this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do too. It's not that I like you.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like that I enjoyed that they died. I
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  Speaker 2: wish they hadn't, you know. I wish they were young
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  Speaker 2: and we were young and everything was status quo. But unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: time is undefeated, as they say, and people get older,
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  Speaker 2: they pass away, and so like you said, I kind
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  Speaker 2: of get excited to look back on their careers and
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  Speaker 2: honor them because they were important to us when we
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  Speaker 2: were kids, absolutely, and even as adults for some of them.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, Listen, if we could go back to nineteen eighty six,
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  Speaker 1: we would and.
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  Speaker 2: Just stay there, We would stay there forever, or just
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  Speaker 2: ever do it all over again and.
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  Speaker 1: Ever and ever ever ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so be like groundhog Day, or but Groundhog Year,
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  Speaker 2: you just do the year over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: To just go back to nineteen eighty six and live
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  Speaker 1: in that like era and just like time just not
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  Speaker 1: even be a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Time's not a thing. Yeah, okay, but you're not doing
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  Speaker 2: the same thing over and over and over it. Gosh, no,
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  Speaker 2: would television shows and movies from nineteen eighty nine be allowed?
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  Speaker 2: Or would he just have to be nineteen eighty six
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  Speaker 2: and prior?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you're just really complicating this, I am.
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  Speaker 1: I think we would allow eighty six, eighty seven, eighty eight,
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  Speaker 1: and eighty nine.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, hard stop at eighty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so it's it's eight pm. I can dig it,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm drinking a cup of coffee. How do you
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  Speaker 1: think this is gonna go?
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  Speaker 2: It's not eight pm, it's quarter to seven.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's a quarter to seven and I'm drinking a
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  Speaker 1: cup of coffee. How do you think this is gonna go?
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  Speaker 1: Coffee does not seem to affect you and you fall
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  Speaker 1: right asleep. It can though this is my second cup tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then you're in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of thought that I might be. So
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  Speaker 1: I got something I want to talk about. But do
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  Speaker 1: you have anything you want to Jipper jabber about? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So it's NFL playoff time. They finished the NFL regular
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  Speaker 2: season and our buddy Raheem Morris that we talked about
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  Speaker 2: last night got fired.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't. Didn't make it much past the day
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  Speaker 1: that you were complaining about. I know.
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  Speaker 2: So he got the boot. The general manager got the boot.
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  Speaker 1: He did, the GM did.
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  Speaker 2: The GM got the boot, and I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the GM has drafted some really good players, but he's
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  Speaker 2: also drafted some bad players. But I think ultimately he
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  Speaker 2: got the boot because he gave Kirk Cousins one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and sixty million dollars. It was stupid coming off of
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  Speaker 2: achilles surgery. And then also traded up in the first
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  Speaker 2: round too, or maybe you didn't trade up. I don't remember,
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  Speaker 2: but drafted a quarterback in the first round as well
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  Speaker 2: and kind of just go that whole quarterback thing up.
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  Speaker 2: I think if he hadn't done that, he may have
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  Speaker 2: stuck around.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I don't know much about anything, but I could
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  Speaker 1: have told you that was dumb.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did not have a winning season, and
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  Speaker 2: is five years there they haven't had a winning season,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know, six years, I think seven years. No,
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so they stink. They're one of the worst
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  Speaker 2: organizations in football. I would put them in the top
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  Speaker 2: ten worst organizations in football. And if you want to
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  Speaker 2: hear my other nine, then maybe you should pay me
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  Speaker 2: to start a sports podcast.
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  Speaker 1: How embarrassing for Atlanta? Yes, indeed.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, the football postseason is in full force. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure that makes you and Emmy's lives miserable because on
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  Speaker 2: the weekends, I'm just watching like nine straight hours of football.
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  Speaker 1: Do I look miserable?
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  Speaker 2: You don't look miserable right now?
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  Speaker 1: I know, but when you're watching football, do I seem miserable?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, because I'm watching footb point, don't look
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  Speaker 2: at you. Yes, but it'll all be over soon life, No,
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  Speaker 2: the season, and you guys don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 2: me watching football.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, then it'll be on to whatever comes next.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, are you done? I think I am complete.
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  Speaker 1: See you later, folks, we're out of here. So I've
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  Speaker 1: been listening to a conspiracy theory podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you turned me onto that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I did and heard of conspiracy theory I had
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  Speaker 1: never heard before pertaining to the Talented and Gifted program
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  Speaker 1: in elementary schools in general, but specifically back in the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Yes, so ironically, you and I were both
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  Speaker 1: in our Talented and Gifted program in Atlanta. It was
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  Speaker 1: called TAG. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Where I was from, it was called Project Challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Project Challenge. Okay, So listening to this podcaster, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like they probably probed my brain and then the man
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  Speaker 1: in black made me forget about it like I've I've
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  Speaker 1: really this has really taken me on some kind of
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  Speaker 1: crazy time Jones made of black. Yes, So I got
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  Speaker 1: a couple of questions for you and then I would
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  Speaker 1: love to hear from people if anybody was in their
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  Speaker 1: Talented and Gifted program back in the eighties, I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear or seventies or seventies. Okay, did you do
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  Speaker 1: an abnormal amount of hearing tests? Yes? See I think
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did more than one a year.
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  Speaker 1: I think I did as well. Okay, there was a
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  Speaker 1: reason for that. Did your teacher ever tell you a
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  Speaker 1: story about a man who jumped out of an airplane
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  Speaker 1: and his parachute failed.
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  Speaker 2: It's possible, but I don't specifically remember that. I remember
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  Speaker 2: that really, yes, okay. And you were supposed to come
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  Speaker 2: to the conclusion.
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  Speaker 1: That he that he dies.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think that the story was that the
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  Speaker 2: man jumped out of uh uh an airplane and his
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  Speaker 2: and his parachute didn't know. But I think that's the
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  Speaker 2: conclusion that you were supposed to come to. I believe
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  Speaker 2: the story was there's a man faced down with a
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  Speaker 2: backpack on, and he's dead.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. You figure out why to figure out he
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  Speaker 1: jumped out of the airplane. Yes, and his didn't open? Yes, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I remember that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Do you remember them giving you a little like
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  Speaker 1: basically shot glass of pink bubblegum flavored liquid. No, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't either, so it was it would have been
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  Speaker 1: a Maxis selling right antibiotic. And I'm pretty sure that
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  Speaker 1: didn't happen to me because I took a Maxa celling
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  Speaker 1: like candy at home. So you could pull some stuff
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  Speaker 1: over on little lends. You couldn't have pulled that over
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  Speaker 1: on me.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever take a field trip in your this
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  Speaker 1: sounds horrible, in your teacher's car? I did not. I did, really, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I took a field trip in the backseat of my teachers.
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  Speaker 2: That's a little creepy.
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  Speaker 1: Were you the only one?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: We all went.
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  Speaker 2: That's a little creepy. Should never leave in a teacher's car.
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did ride in a teacher's car. But it was
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  Speaker 2: my freshman year and we had three baseball teams, varsity,
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  Speaker 2: JV and freshman, and our freshman baseball team we weren't
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  Speaker 2: allowed on the field because there wasn't enough room, so
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  Speaker 2: we had to go up to the middle school, which
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  Speaker 2: was about eight blocks away, to practice. So whoever was
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  Speaker 2: first to the coaches car got to ride, So there
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  Speaker 2: was like three of us, you know, or four of
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  Speaker 2: us that would make it to his car and ride
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  Speaker 2: up there, and the rest of them had to slug
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  Speaker 2: up there and walk.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the only time that I ever rode in
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  Speaker 2: a teacher's car, other than when I did what do
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  Speaker 2: they call that student driving. He was actually my basketball
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  Speaker 2: coach in high school.
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  Speaker 1: So I remember this trip so specifically because my teacher
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  Speaker 1: talked to us about while we were riding, could we
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  Speaker 1: feel that her car was vibrating? And she told us
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  Speaker 1: it's because her tires were not perfectly round and she
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  Speaker 1: was fighting the wherever she had bought her tires from
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  Speaker 1: to replace them. And it's so funny. Thirty five, six, seven, eight,
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  Speaker 1: nine years later, I still remember that like it was yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: That's wild.
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  Speaker 1: So the thought is, back in the eighties, they were
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  Speaker 1: checking to see if there were any children that would
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  Speaker 1: be work well in the CIA oh three days of
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  Speaker 1: the condor types. So that's what that was allegedly about.
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  Speaker 1: And so ironically enough, my mom, I'll never forget. She
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  Speaker 1: told a story about when the school called her to say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we think little Lens should be tested for the Talented
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  Speaker 1: and Gifted program. She thought they were calling to tell
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  Speaker 1: her I was failing the second grade. So that tells
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  Speaker 1: you they weren't necessarily looking for the smartest kids.
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  Speaker 2: No, they were looking for talented and gifted kids. I
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  Speaker 2: think on that Conspiracy Theory podcast, they were looking for
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  Speaker 2: kids that might be able to I want to say,
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  Speaker 2: like almost like prophesy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they were looking yeah, if they were like impaths
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  Speaker 1: and if maybe you had some telepathic capabilities.
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  Speaker 2: I think they watched the movie Carrie too.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know, it's very, very crazy. So, and just
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  Speaker 1: to clear my name, last week, I shared about how
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  Speaker 1: I never went to school. I hated school. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to go, and I pitched fit every day. And
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  Speaker 1: then I went on and said, apparently the day that
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  Speaker 1: the Challenger exploded had been one of those days. My
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  Speaker 1: mom gave up on and she just didn't make me
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  Speaker 1: go because I was not in school that day. So
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  Speaker 1: I talked to a friend Kelly, and she listened to
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  Speaker 1: the podcast and heard this conversation we had. She also
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  Speaker 1: grew up here in the Metro Atlanta area. She said
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  Speaker 1: she was not in school that day either. She believes
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  Speaker 1: it was a snow day.
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  Speaker 2: Eh, yeah, that would make sense then, So unless she
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  Speaker 2: just hated school like you did, and somehow talked to
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  Speaker 2: her parents how to going.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot picture Kelly would have hated school like I did.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe, but I don't picture that. So
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  Speaker 1: I feel a little bit better about myself.
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  Speaker 2: I feel a little bit better about your parents that
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  Speaker 2: they didn't just let you stay home because you piched
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  Speaker 2: a fit.
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  Speaker 1: Well. You know, I've told you this story a million times.
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  Speaker 1: Every morning. It was World War three, yes, and I
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  Speaker 1: never wore down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, And here's the thing, like that has carried over
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  Speaker 2: into your adult life because if Emmy wakes up and
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  Speaker 2: she's like, oh, I've got a stiff neck, You're like,
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  Speaker 2: do you want to stay home from school?
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  Speaker 1: So I remember specifically one morning a war had broken
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  Speaker 1: out at home, and I mean, how old would I
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  Speaker 1: have been? Eight? Maybe I was a little kid, and
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  Speaker 1: Mom and I had gone six rounds and she had
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  Speaker 1: had enough. I mean, she was done, and she had
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  Speaker 1: plopped herself down and sat down in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the dining room floor. She was so just exasperated. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what she was gonna do. My dad worked,
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  Speaker 1: you know, night shifts, and so my dad walks in
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  Speaker 1: he's coming home from work and he sees my mom
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  Speaker 1: sprawled out in the dining room floor and there I is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, wait, hold on, wait a second. A second ago
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  Speaker 2: you said she sat down. Now you're saying she was
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  Speaker 2: sprawled out as if she fainted.
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  Speaker 1: She did not faint, but she was done. She was
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  Speaker 1: do in each So was she sitting or was she
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  Speaker 1: sprawled out? She was sitting?
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  Speaker 2: Was she sitting Indian style?
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  Speaker 1: Criss cross apple sauce? And in walks my dad and
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  Speaker 1: was like, what's going on? Because there I am, I'm dressed.
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  Speaker 1: We fought to the point like I got dressed. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what do you call me? Sugar? Yeah, so sugar, what
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  Speaker 1: do you do? And you got to go to school?
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  Speaker 1: And I just looked at him and went, okay, will
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  Speaker 1: you take me?
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  Speaker 2: I bet that really infuriated your mind.
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  Speaker 1: I got my back packing off and he drove me
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  Speaker 1: to school and I was perfectly fine. And you know
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  Speaker 1: she was furious.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my goodness. Well I never got that opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to throw a fit and not go to school. I
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  Speaker 2: was going to school pretty much no matter what, unless
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  Speaker 2: I had thrown up or I had a fever.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you tell a story of poor guy walking
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  Speaker 1: to school having an asthma attack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't know that, and I didn't. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what was going on, and my parents didn't
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  Speaker 2: know I was having an asthma attack. I was just
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  Speaker 2: walking and then felt like I was tired, felt like
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  Speaker 2: I was out of breath, and felt like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I can't go in any further. Let me sit down
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  Speaker 2: here for a second. I sat down and caught my breath,
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  Speaker 2: and then I started walking back to the bus agetting
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  Speaker 2: figured I'd be better, and so I'd made it all
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  Speaker 2: the way. I lived right in the middle of the street,
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  Speaker 2: like madness sings our house right, So we lived right
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of the block. I made it all
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  Speaker 2: the way down to the end of the block to
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  Speaker 2: where my bus. How do you lived. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: nowadays where busses stopped at every subdivision and every block,
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  Speaker 2: like they would stop every few blocks, so you had
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  Speaker 2: to walk to the bus stop. So I made it
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  Speaker 2: down to my buddy's house. I sat down on his steps,
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  Speaker 2: and then and then after I caught my breath, I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get up and walk to the bus stop
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  Speaker 2: now because it's about as far as what I've already done.
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  Speaker 2: So I got up from his front steps, walked around
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  Speaker 2: the corner, made it about to the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: side of his house, and had to sit down and
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  Speaker 2: rest again. And that's when I was like, something's wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't know what. And then eventually I made
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  Speaker 2: my way to the bus stop, and then I think
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  Speaker 2: one of the teachers noticed that I was really struggling
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  Speaker 2: to breathe. They called my parents. My parents. I ended
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  Speaker 2: up in the hospital for a week because back then
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have the rescue in Hailer's and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so they didn't have inhalers at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, maybe some private team mist or something, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure how much that stuff helps. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: was under an oxygen tent for like seven straight days
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  Speaker 2: while the Cardinals were in the nineteen eighty two World Series.
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  Speaker 1: We've come a long ways, haven't we We have.
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  Speaker 2: Now I start having problems breathing and you just do
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  Speaker 2: a little puff and ye boom, You're back to normal.
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  Speaker 2: So enough of our school history of when we were little,
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  Speaker 2: about you not going to school and me fighting through
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  Speaker 2: near death to go to school.
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  Speaker 1: Fun episode. Yeah, oh, Emmy's coming in. She wants to
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  Speaker 1: ask if she can stay home from school tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: No, she cannot.
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  Speaker 1: We're just joking, baby, So are you.
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  Speaker 2: Ready to get to today's show?
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  Speaker 1: I am ready?
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get moving.
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  Speaker 1: This is a podcast that looks back on the decade
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  Speaker 1: of the nineteen eighty We talk about things that were
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  Speaker 1: important to us as children and what we look back
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  Speaker 1: on with fond memories as adults. Ultimately, this is a
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  Speaker 1: nostalgia podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And we are saying goodbye to some greats of the
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  Speaker 2: music world, sports world, movie worlds, all those worlds that
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  Speaker 2: you know, somewhat at least affected our lives in the eighties,
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  Speaker 2: or at least we enjoyed them through the eighties and beyond. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: all right, so are you ready for our first our
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  Speaker 2: first mentioned Let's do it, all right? Our first mention
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  Speaker 2: this year, Ace Freely of Kiss passed Away, or I
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  Speaker 2: should say last year, because we're in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: So Ace Freely, the lead guitarist for Kiss, passed Away.
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  Speaker 1: Passed away as the result of an injury from a
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  Speaker 1: fall in his home. Really, which is I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 1: any death is sad, but boy, that just is kind
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  Speaker 1: of that made me broke my heart.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like he just got old and died, right,
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  Speaker 2: He got sick and died, like he just fell and
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  Speaker 2: then didn't make it. So, for those of you that
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  Speaker 2: aren't aware, he was the spaceman for Kiss with the
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  Speaker 2: makeup which was my favorite makeup.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I had the the.
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  Speaker 2: Silver around the eyes and the almost like a lightning
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: bolt kind of thing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And I mean that they all looked the same to me. No,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: they didn't all look the same. They all looked they
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: were all had different stuff on their face with you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: No, Ace had silver. The rest of them were all
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: black and white. Ace had some silver and black and white.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: He was the coolest by far. He also had the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: best solo career of all the Kiss members, really he did.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: He left the band in nineteen eighty two. He says
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: he quit. Gene and Paul say he was fired. So
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: he did have some alcohol problems, and in fact, I
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: think that's why he got fired. But they were on
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the Tom Snyder Program in nineteen seventy nine and he
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was visibly drunk, like it was obvious. He's making wild
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: jokes and cackling, and you can just and they're all
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: still wearing their makeup.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Right there, Simmons doesn't drink at all.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: No, he and he looked extremely irritated, like it was obvious.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Jeene Simmons was extremely frustrated, extremely irritated, and at one
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: point Tom Snyder mispronounced bass, calling it bass at one point,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and Ace laughed and said that he was the lead
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: trout player, which I.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Think is funny.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: But no, because he was drunk, they did not think
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: it was funny, and that just led to further problems
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and further problems, until eventually he was out by eighty two.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: And then he.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Was out before they took off their makeup. So they
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: took off their makeup and five and actually, my favorite
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Kiss song is on that non makeup album, which is
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Lick It Up. Ace was not on that was not
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: on that record. Oh wow, So we say goodbye to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Ace Freely of Kiss, the coolest face paint of all
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the Kiss people in my opinion, and that marketing campaign
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and everything they did in the seventies just fascinated little Jim.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: All right, well I am done with Ace. Are you
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: ready to get to your first person?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, my first person is the legendary Brian Wilson and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm no deaf Dave, but I hope that I can
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: do this thing justin Okay, let's do it. Brian Wilson
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: is widely regarded as one of the greatest musical innovators
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, but he's best known as the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: creative force behind The Beach Boys. He was born in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: nineteen forty two in California, and Wilson showed extraordinary musical
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: talent from a very young age, mastering harmony, arrangement and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: songwriting in his early teens. As the band's chief songwriter
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and producer, he helped define the sound of the early
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixties American pop with the hits like Surfing USA,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: California Girls, and Wouldn't It Be Nice? But for an
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: eighties kid? What I remember about the Beach Boys comes
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: from their nineteen eighty eight album Kokoma, which went to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: number one and introduced them to a whole new generation
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of fans.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, loved that song made famous in the Cocktail movie.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: That Cocktail movie, the movie I was forbidden to watch
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: as a kid.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: And then they sang that on Full House Another eighty
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: show right.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: DJ one tickets, two tickets to Paradise. She went two
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: tickets to a Beach Boys concert, and everybody in the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: family wanted to go, and she felt the pressure, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: so she was just like, just forget it. Can't handle it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: She cracked under the pressure. The Beach Boys came to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: her house and invited everybody.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Well, they had to invite Uncle Jesse because he was
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: playing the drums for.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: They needed him up there on that stage. So behind
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: all of his musical talent, Wilson's life was also marked
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: with a lot of profound personal struggles. He battled anxiety, depression,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and later schizo effective disorder, leading him to withdraw from
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: touring and step away from the spotlight for long periods
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, I wanted to find something, maybe a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: little less known, and I'm not even sure if that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: possible with somebody as well known as Brian Wilson. But
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I wanted something that I could bring to the table
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and tell you and you go, oh, I never heard
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that before.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: That's not the thing about Charlie Manson.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Is it what they No? I don't even know what
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: thing about Charlie Manson.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Charlie Manson was looking for one of the Wilson brothers
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: when his group killed Sharon Tabor.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, No, I did not know that. Okay. Bob Dylan
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: deeply admired Brian Wilson, calling him a musical genius and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: praising his innovative complex work, particularly his ear for music,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and he famously said Wilson should donate his ear to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: this Smithsonian.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So Bob Dylan has never been more correct. He was
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: a musical genius, and the stuff that he could just
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: put together, layer on top of layer on top of layer,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: just absolutely incredible.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It's mind blowing. If you just stop and you like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: really listen to one of their songs, and then you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: can start to kind of pick out those layers, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you can even if you start to like homo, separate
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the layers, and then you can really begin to halfway
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: understand how talented they work, right.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't think anybody on this side of
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: being able to compose music can understand truly understand how
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: ridiculous Brian Wilson's talent was. But yeah, it's amazing. Is
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: that all you got on, mister Wilson?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I've got.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Dennis the Menace, all right. Our next celebrity is the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: great Jeane Hackman.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Past big speech time on.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I want to thank you for the last few months.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: It's been very special for me. Anybody have anything they
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: want to say.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's win.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Listen for.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: All the small schools never had a chance to get here.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Thank I want to win for my dad. Let's win
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: for coach who got us here.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you. That is Gene Hackman as coach Norman Dale
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: in Hoosiers.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I thought we were going to win one for the Gipper.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: No, they're going to win one for Coach Dale. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Gene Hackman born in nineteen thirty a huge star.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: He was a two time Oscar winner. He won his
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: first one for Best Actor in The French Connection during
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, and then two decades later one for
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Best Supporting Actor and one of my favorite all time
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Westerns unforgiven. He's one of just a handful of actors
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: that have won in both categories. But in the eighties,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: as the eighties began, he was already respected, obviously, and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: by the time they ended, he was one of the
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: great ones. Right, and what makes his eighties run special
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: isn't just the amount of movies that he did. It's
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: his range, right. He did comedy, he did obviously a
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: sport movie. He did thrillers, courtroom dramas, Prestige films, action
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and one of the greatest villains of the decade who
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Lex Luthor from Superman in nineteen seventy eight and then
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Superman two in nineteen eighty one. So his filmography in
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the eighties. So I want to say this, When I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: first saw Superman two, I was probably seven years old.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I saw it in the theater right after it was released.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: It's probably seven years old. And Lex Luthor was the
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: bad guy. But he had so much charm and charisma,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and he was funny that it was hard to root
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: against him. Like he would he would act like he
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: was Superman's friend and then turn on him like a snake. Right,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: But then he needed Superman, so he was hoping that
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Superman would come, but then he'd turn on him like
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a snake. But he was so darned likable that it
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: was hard to hate him as a villain. Yeah, right,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: whereas somebody will get too later. Was easy to hate
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: as a villain in that movie. So nineteen eighty one,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: he was in Superman two is Lex Luthor. He was
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: in All Night Long, and he was in reds which
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: is about the Russian Revolution. Nineteen eighty three, under Fire,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Uncommon valor Eureka. I haven't seen any of these movies.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty four, Misunderstood eighty five twice in a lifetime
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: in Target, nineteen eighty six, Hoosiers, which is the clip
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: that I just played. Probably if it's not the best
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: sports movie of all time, it's in the top three.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I would say it's either Hoosiers or Miracle or probably
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the two best sports movies of all time. Nineteen eighty
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: seven Superman four, which is not good, he but one
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of the underrated movies of the eighties and one of
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the best thrillers of all time. No Way Out with
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Kevin Costner. That is a movie that you need to see.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: That was one of my dad's favorite movies.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: No Way Out. Yep, Oh my gosh, your dad had
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: amazing taste. Then I did not see that until the
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: late nineties, and I saw it was just absolutely blown away, fantastic.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And then eighty eight. He had a huge year in
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: eighty eight, so he started BAT twenty one with Danny Glover.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Danny Glover is a pilot in Vietnam and crashes and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Gene Hackman is on the other end of the line,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: trying to keep up his spirits, trying to find out
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: where he is so he can get him home. Split Decisions,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Another Woman, Full Moon in Blue Water, and then finally
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Mississippi Birding, which I believe he was nominated for an Oscar,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: which is just an excellent movie. Another movie that I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: saw in the theater. So I saw Hackman at the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: beginning of the decade and at the end of the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: decade in the theater. He's just fantastic in everything he
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: did nineteen eighty nine, The Package, and then he's also
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: in some of my favorite movies from the nineties. We
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: already mentioned none forgiven. Crimson Tide is one of the
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: best movies of the nineties, one of the best movies
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: of all time.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: In my opera, can they talk about the con.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's him and Denzel just going toe to toe
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Extreme Measures, which is another good movie. And Enemy of
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the State with Will Smith, which is awesome. And then
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: he also started two John Grisham thrillers, The Firm with
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise and Wilfrid Brimley and The Chamber. Now I
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: mentioned Wilfrid Brimley here because I am starting a always
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: were born middle aged men and always remained middle aged men.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. And my first two inductees are Gene
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Hackman and Wilfrid Brimley, and then I am also going
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: to induct Morgan Freeman. And there's one other one that
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I that is escaping me right now. I'll think of
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: it later and we'll get to it. But the great
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Gene Hackman passed away in his uh the story. It's
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: actually very sad. His wife had passed away before, and
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: he was suffering from like hall Timer's or dementia or something,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: and so they think that he just kind of wandered
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: around the house for a couple of weeks after she
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: passed break. Yeah, and then eventually he passed, probably starvation
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: or probably.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: You know, that's just that that's hard. That's hard to process,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Like it's a hard pill to swallow there. And you know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hope that there were some angels there keeping
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: him company and yeah, and and ushered ushered him on
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: when it was time. And I'm gonna say the cliche
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: thing about, well, let's just focus on the good times
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: or all of his wonderful movies. And I do think
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: we should do that. But boy, when you go that way,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: it's hard to not for that to not be a
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: piece of your story.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And Gene Hackman's one of the few
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: actors I think that I could watch. You know, you
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: could do a film festival of him all weekend and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: if you pick the right movies, never find a bad movie. Yeah,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Like he's got that many of them.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think if we take anything from his death,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and as we're all getting a little bit older, I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: hate that. Let's always have something in place where there's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: always a third person to if you haven't heard from
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: me in a few days, please call and check on me.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Right right as the kids start to grow up and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: leave the house and you start making plans for retirement,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: just don't have it set up where it's just the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: two of you. It needs to be somebody else that's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: popping in and out just to check or to call
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: or so if something God forbid happens, might might save
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the other one's life.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: This is our public service announcement, okay for all of you.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: But no, it's true though. You do want that, right,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: so something like this doesn't happen.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get they were super private people. And
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I mean from the looks of their home and where
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it was, I get it. It was beautiful. Like you
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: just want to have your little He's done his time.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: You see all he did and all the money he make.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: You go and just enjoy and rest and whatever. But
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you need somebody popping in checking on you, may you do?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Like what in the world.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they didn't have a housekeeper or a
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: nurse that would stop by, Like, I can't believe there
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: was no one that was scheduled, I.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Know kids any like. Yeah, it's just it's it really
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: is heartbreaking. But we do celebrate his life because he was.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: He was just fantastic. Absolutely, it's fantastic. Alrighty, So are
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you ready for your next person?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Yes? I am already making your way in the world today.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Takes everything you've got. Taking a break from all your worries. Sure,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: what help a lot? Wouldn't you like to get away?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Okay that's a good theme song, I'll admit it. Okay
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: we lost in twenty twenty five. George Went, who's best
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: remembered for his role as Norm Peterson in the long
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: running NBC sitcom Cheers. Back in the nineteen eighties. He
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: was born in Chicago in nineteen forty eight, which is
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: why he was so good at dub Bears. Went found
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: his comedic footing at the Second City, the legendary improv
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: theater that launched countless comedy stars. That background shaped his
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: natural every man type humor that he had, which made
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Norm instantly relatable when Cheers debuted in nineteen eighty two.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Over the show's eleven season run, Went earned six consecutive
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Emmy nominations for his warm, dry witted performance as the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: bar's most loyal regular.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable six did you say seven?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Six? Six?
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, I thought you said six, but for some reason
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: seven was stuck in my ouse. Oh gosh, here we go.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: And remember he was always ready with that one liner.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Yes after he was greeted with that resounding Norm when
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: he walked in. So I did not know a ton
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: about him before or after Cheers, but beyond Cheers Went
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: built a diverse career across TV, film, and theater. He
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: appeared in movies like Fletch Yes House and Spice World
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: About the Spice Girls, I Have no idea, and he
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: made memorable guest spots on shows such as Obviously Saturday
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Night Live. Yes, and he starred in Broadway and touring
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: productions including Hairspray and Elf the musical. George Went remains
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a lasting symbol of classic sitcom comedy and one of
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the most recognizable faces of nineteen eighties TV.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I love Normy.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I have a question. Yes, do you know what Norm
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Peterson's primary job was?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: He was an accountant?
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, good, but he sometimes he struggled to find work.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Uh huh, okay, so he dabbled as a house painter,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: an interior decorator, and even a brewery beer taster.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Well that was perfect for him.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Following George Went's passing, John Ratzenberger called him a true
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: craftsman who was humble, hilarious, and full of heart. Yeah
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: he was.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: He He did make it look easy, right, He wasn't.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was a character, but it was like
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: he was playing himself.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I know, it was like he wasn't acting right.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Whereas and nothing against John Ratzenberger, he was fantastic as
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Cliff right, but you could tell he was playing right now,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: a character. Whereas George Went, you just kind of thought
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: that was him. He's Norm, right, And so I think
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: as a kid, I liked Norm better as an adult.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I may end up when we get through it all,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I may end up liking Cliff better.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: So we when we did the Cheers episode, was that
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: season the end of season two?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Ish?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: No, that was this year?
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Was that this year? Yeah?
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Because listen, because we did our Uh it may have
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: been the end of season two or season three, but
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: it was in twenty twenty five.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, so go back if you haven't listened to that episode,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: listen to it, because don't we play all the clips
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: together of the bar patron saying Norm as he came in.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: We may have Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so take a listen to that. I loved that compilation.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Yes it was. It was pretty fantastic. Okay, well, guess
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: what you're going to get to do two in a
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: row here because you have somebody else, So let me
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: give them some intro music.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: The one dude, I'm living not the Air in Cincinnati,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Cincinnati WKR.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Crack, and then track in.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I love that TV show. And I also loved Lonnie Anderson,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: who passed away on August third, twenty twenty five, leaves
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: behind a.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Spot, eh, just left the little spot. So that cast
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: was fantastic.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: So she was best known for her role as Jennifer
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Marlowe on the Classics that Come WKRP in Cincinnati. She
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: was the blonde bombshell, right, don't you Absolutely no doubt,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: couldn't argue with that. She was beautiful and I loved
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: the part that she played of Jennifer. She wasn't stupid, right,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and she went in a dumb blood right. She was
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: born in Minnesota in nineteen forty five. She studied at
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the University of Minnesota before heading to Hollywood, where she
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: built her career through guest roles and small film parts
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: before landing the role that made her a household name.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Her performance on WKRP earned multiple Emmy and Golden Globe
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: nominations and cemented her place in history as a character
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: with both style and savvy.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: There you go, also missus Burt Reynolds.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Yes so. She also played in TV shows later after
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: WKRP in Cincinnati ended like Partners in Crime and Nurses
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I've heard of, I don't know Partners in Crime. While
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: she was often in the public eye for her high
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: profile marriage to Burt Reynolds, Lonnie Anderson will be remembered
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: not only for her beauty and charm, but for the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: way she opened doors for women in the sitcom world
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to come.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah she did. Also, her and Bert's living room
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: was used as the set for wind Loser draw.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I had forgotten about that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: You can hear more about that on our first season
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: episode about game shows.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: You were absolutely right about that one. They were a
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: handsome couple. They were a very good looking couple. But
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: no doubt, I'm sure he was not easy to live with.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know anything about him. I know
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: that he drove trans ams really fast.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Don't you remember? Was it he on the Tonight Show
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: when the host of Doubledare somehow ticked him off.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember that.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: And it became like they got into like a Mark Summerson. Yeh,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: they got into a little brawl.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I'll have to look into that, but I think I.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Just remember Norm McDonald did a great Burt Reynolds, Yes
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: he did, and they would do skits with him as
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Burt Reynolds and Dom Delaise was at Chris Farnley maybe,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I mean that would Track and Dana Carvey as Johnny Carson,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and they would just it was just them three just
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: laughing NonStop. That's all the skit was. So that was
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: pretty funny.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: MS.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Lannie Anderson. May she rest in peace. Moving on to
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: our next celebrity, we are stepping into the music world. Okay,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: mister Rick Darrenser passed away in twenty twenty five.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's ironic. So he was.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Why isn't ironic.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Because didn't he do Hulk Hogan's.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna get to that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why it's ironic. You asked.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: He was born in nineteen forty seven. He's a guitarist, producer,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: and wrestling fan. Wrestling head. The hit song rock and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: roll Hoochy Coo that has played in my favorite movie,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Dazed and Confused. Yeah, here's something I bet you didn't
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: know about him. He was the producer of most of
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Weird Owl's albums. I did not know that, but I
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: think us eighties kids know him to be most famous
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: for this.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: It coms crashing down and it hurts inside.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: You gotta take a stand and don't hurt.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Tell me that that that doesn't get you pumped up?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah it does.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: You hear that, and that just gets you pumped up.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: You're ready to go? Yes, Yes, you want to you
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: want to put your to your ear and listen to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the crowd cheer. So I got a little trivia for
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: this song for you too.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: He originally wrote this song for the tag team of
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Barry Wyndham and Mike Rotundo, but they soon left the
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: WWF after he recorded this, and so they reimaged it
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: for Haul Coogan.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I did not know that, and so I would say
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: it's might not be remembered had it been for Barry
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Wyndham and Mike Rotundo, But because it was the Holksters
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: for many, many, many years, people now remember it. And
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I think if you're anything like me, you get fired
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: up when you hear that song. When it comes crashing
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: down and it hurts inside, you have to take a stand.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: You can't run and hide. So rest in peace, mister
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Rick Darringer. It is ironic that he goes out the
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: same year as hul Cogan, the guy he wrote or
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: not wrote the song for. But the guy who made
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: the song famous.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Really who took that song and it sort of his
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: theme song.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh, that is a little bit ironic, but
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: more ironic than anything in Alanis Morissets song. Rest in
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Peace mister Rick Drringer. Okay, so you're ready to move
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to the sad one now, aren't you.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is the one that I'm not okay doing
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and I don't think I can do it justice.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And we really shouldn't be doing it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: But here we are.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And he almost made it through the year.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: And John, that's that felt a little incense. No, I
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: mean he almost. You know, I'd like you died at
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the end of the year. So this doesn't even begin
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to do him justice. But here we go. Rob Reiner,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: who passed away December fourteenth. No, wait a minute, I
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: want to start again because I listened to a podcast.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: When someone's murdered, we don't say they passed away. We
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: say they were murdered.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: They were murdered.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let me let me do that again. Rob Reiner,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: who was murdered December fourteenth, twenty twenty five, leaves behind
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: an extraordinary legacy as one of the most influential storytellers
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: in modern entertainment. Born in New York City nineteen forty
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: seven to comedy legend Carl Reiner, he first became a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: household name as Mike Meathead stivic On all in the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: family a role that helped redefine television comedy in the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, but it was behind the camera where Reiner
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: truly changed the landscape of film. During the nineteen eighties alone,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: he directed a stunning run of classics This Is Final Tap,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Stand By Me, The Princess Bride, and When Harry Met Sally,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: each vastly different in style, yet all united by warmth,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: humor and unforgettable characters. Reiner's career continued to flourish in
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: the decades the followed, with powerful films like Misery That
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: was fantastic.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I forgot he did that, A Few Good Men, which
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: you know is if It's if, a Few if dazte Confused,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: isn't my favorite movie? A Few Good Men is?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And The American President, proving his ability to move efforts
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: effortlessly between comedy, drama, and social commentary. Ron Reiner will
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: be remembered not just for the films that shaped childhoods, friendships,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and love stories, but for the heart and humanity he
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: brought to every project. His work lives on in the laughter, tears,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and inspiration of audiences around the world.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So I just want to say, as Mike Stivick or
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: meat Header when you call him. He was fantastic, always
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: arguing with Archie, clear different views, right coming out of
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: the old conservative like forties and fifties to the more
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: liberal sixties and seventies where there was a class of generations.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: And Rob and Carol O'Connor just they were both fantastic
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: in that show. But when he started directing and I
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: heard that Rob Reiner directed stand by Me, I was like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, the guy who played Meathead, Like I
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: was like, I was like, how could meat Head be
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: a director? I was absolutely blown away. And I think,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you talk about stars from the seventies that
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: became fantastic directors, you think of Rob Reiner, and well,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I guess you could say Robert Redford and Clint Eastwood,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: but I was thinking more Richie Cunningham, Ron Howard, right,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Ron Howard and Rob Reiner from TV, and then Robert
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Redford and Clint Eastwood from movies, and so yeah, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: they all make fantastic movies. But yeah, Rob Reiner, I
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: mean this is spinal Tap, which is a mockumentary, right
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: stand by Me, which is a heartfelt drama coming of
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: age story to the Princess Bride which is a fantasy
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: love story, to win Harry Matt Sally, which is a
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: realistic love story. I mean, it's just like you said.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: And then Misery, which is a thriller kind of. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's a horror movie, but it's an intense
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: thriller to Few Good Men, a courtroom drama that's just
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: super intense. I mean, he did all these different kinds
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: of things. Whereas you find directors now who do the
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: same kind of movie over and over and over again,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: just you know, with different characters, different actors, whatever.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: He was so.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Diverse and he was just amazing and I love his movies,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm sad that he was murdered. I feel like
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the world got cheated, Yeah, because I feel like he
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: still had some good years left. He absolutely he did
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: a podcast on the Kennedy assassination.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: And he was working on another podcast.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: And he was just he was fantastic on that. I
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: loved listening to that and I could just listen to
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: him talk non stop.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his podcast that he did with Solo Dad O'Brien
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: on the JFK assassination. We've all heard that story one
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: hundred times. But something about his voice telling it made
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: me want to sit down and listen to it again. Absolutely,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: And I want to say they released the trailer for
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: their next podcast again. He was working with solo Dad O'Brien.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I want to say it was the same week that
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: he was murdered. His wife also was murdered. Obviously she
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't famous to the extent that he was, but I
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: don't want to not mention that she died as well.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like, what else, what else was
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: he working on or could he have done? What else
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: was going on there that he had stashed back there
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: in that brain that he didn't have a chance to do.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And there's some kind of just extra grief that goes
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: with somebody who dies when we feel like what we
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: would call too soon, Yeah, too soon. And it just
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: seemed like an all around good guy. Yeah, so so
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: very sad. All right, moving on, we have our next
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: select way to bring it down.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Jim Man, I love that. I mean I have heard
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: that a thousand times and every time I hear it,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I get chills, I get goosebumps. Playing this for mister
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Robert Redford. He was an actor from the sixties and seventies,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: best known for Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid, The Sting,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Three Days of the Condor, All the President's Men. I mean,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: just banger after banger after banger movie wise, but then
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Eighties wise, he's a director. As the eighties begin, he
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: directs Ordinary People, which won the Oscar for Best Picture
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: and Best Director. Nineteen eighty four, he stars in the Natural.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: We've talked about this one a lot, but grown people
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: like me who love baseball, I promise you they get
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: teary eyed when they hear that score. In nineteen eighty five,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: he starred in Out of Africa with Meryl Streep. That
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: one won seven Oscars, including Best Picture, but he did
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: not win for Best Actor on that one. But his
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: legacy outside of acting and directing is going to be that.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty one, he founded the Sundance Institute, which
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: gave independent filmmakers a real pipeline to make movies that
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: they wanted to make.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: How awesome is that?
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: That is pretty cool? And so every year they do
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: the Sundance Film Festival. This festival, you know, this institute
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: that he created directly influenced the nineties indie film boom.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: When they really indie films exploded. Robert Redford. He's fantastic.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: He had stuff in the nineties as well as the eighties,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: seventies and six. He was just he was a man's man.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: He was, wasn't he?
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't say like he was commercial like Arnold
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: or sly Right. He was just all about the craft
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: and just all I can say about him is he's
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: a man's man and a fantastic actor yep, and director.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: For that matter. Do we know what happened? What did
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: he die from? Do you know?
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I think he was just really really old.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's happens.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Not everybody lives to be ninety five, like Gene Hackman.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: So all right, your turn.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: My next one up is ROBERTA. Flack. She was one
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: of the most distinctive and soulful voices in American music,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: known for her ability to turn quiet emotion into unforgettable.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Songs, sing unforgettable.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: No but listen quiet emotion. Didn't I do well describing her?
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I think?
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I really think you did do well
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: describing her. That is perfect for what she sounded like.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: So. She was born in nineteen thirty seven in North Carolina.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: She was raised in Virginia. She was a musical prodigy
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: who earned a full scholarship to Howard University at just fifteen.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: She was trained as a classical pianist. Flack originally planned
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to pursue a career in teaching cool Her life changed
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: when jazz musician Les McCann heard her perform and helped
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: introduce her to Atlantic records. So her breakthrough came in
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two when Clint Eastwood featured her rendition of
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the First Time Ever I Saw your Face in the
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: film play Misty for Me. That's a good one.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: So she has a beautiful voice. I hate that song.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: What Yeah, I don't. I don't like that song. She
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: is beauty and she's fantastic on it. It's nothing against her.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I just don't like that song.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can continue now. So the
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: song became a massive hit, and it earned her her
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: first Grammy for Record of the Year. So she followed
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: up that success with an extraordinary run of chart toppers,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: including killing Me Softly with his song Hate that Song too?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: And what eighties song did she do? Jim Well, she
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: did something like oh she did.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Pebo Bryson, Peebo she did Pebo Bryson tonight I celebrate
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: My Love for You.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I hate that song.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: It's funny that I hate her two seventy songs and
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: then you hate that song.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. You know what else she did the eighties?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: What this like?
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: It's such a sweet exact.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: The best you know in the stops by.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: The Hogan Family.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, she did the Hogan Family, and you can I mean,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: she's got a distinctive voice. You can tell that's her
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: right away.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: So let me back up though, just for a second.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I want to point this out though. So she did
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: your favorite song.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: First time ever I saw your face.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, so she did that album. Then she did Killing
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Me Softly with his song, making her the first artist
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: to ever win back to bat Grammys for Record of
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the Year.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Wow yep.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: So sadly she suffered from als. Oh no, and so yeah,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and she had to publicly like step away in twenty
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: twenty two.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of people with a LS lately going on.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it's like the fifth person
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: we've talked about it. I know when the last couple
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: of weeks it had ALS.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I know that scares me to death.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: All right, Are you done honoring miss Foes? Rest in
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: peace for Berta Flack. Our next one, we're going to
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: step into the sports world here and I'm going to
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: talk about the Hall of Fame second baseman, mister Ryan Sandberg.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: So I have to say this, Ryan Sandberg played for
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: the Cubs. Cardinals, and the Cubs are rivals. We do
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: not like the Cubs. I never disliked Ryan Sandberg, Okay,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I had duly noted I had total respect for him,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: and I actually wish that he had played for the Cardinals.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: The rest of the Cubs boo. But Ryan Samberg always
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: had respect for Rhino. So he was the nineteen eighty
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: four National League MVP. There is something that is known
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: as the Ryan Sandberg Game, and I watched this game live.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I remember it well because it broke my heart. And
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: this is how you knew that the Cardinals were in
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: trouble and the Cubs were probably gonna win. Because it
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: was a fantastic game, very high scoring. Willie McGee hit
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: for the cycle in that game. And it's forgotten about
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: because in the ninth inning, Ryan Samberg hits a two runner,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: a three run home runoff of Bruce Souter to tie
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: the game and then does it again two innings later
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: to win the game. He had two horns off Bruce Souter,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: who at that point was almost unhittable, and he would
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: go on to win the MVP that year. I believe
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't pull the stats, but I believe he had
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: something like nineteen triples and twenty home runs. A lot
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: of RBIs high batting average, so he was really good.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: So he made ten consecutive All Star Games and nine
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: consecutive Gold Gloves from nineteen eighty three to nineteen ninety one.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: When he retired in nineteen ninety seven, his nine eighty
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: nine fielding percentage was an all time record for second basement.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: He would finish his career with twenty three hundred and
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: eighty six hits, two hundred and eighty two home runs,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: one thousand and sixty one runs. He actually retired in
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: mid nineteen ninety four. He struggled to open the season
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety four. He retired, Stay, retired for ninety
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: four and ninety five, and then came back in nineteen
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: ninety six and played two more years, which a lot
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: of baseball players don't do.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that was that you could do that.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: But what's the Chicago Stars retiring in the mid nineties
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: and then coming back a year and a half later
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: because Michael Jordan did the same thing. Must be something
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: in the water up there. But yeah, nothing but respect
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: for Ryan Sandberg. Sadly, he passed away from leukemia at
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: sixty five. I believe he was sixty four sixty five,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: so he wasn't real old, but he in my opinion,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: and maybe it's just because he was the premier second
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: basement when I was growing up, you know, when we
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: all loved baseball and baseball was the most important thing.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: He's the best second basement I've ever seen.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Jill Morgan was good, but he was near the end
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: of his career by the time I started watching him.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would put Ryan Sandberg above anybody else
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: that I saw. He would be the second basement on
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: my all time team wow for players that I saw, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So rest in peace, Ryan Sandberg, all right, moving on,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Rest in peace, mister Terrence Stamp. Terrence Stamp was born
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  Speaker 2: in London in nineteen thirty eight. He grew up very
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  Speaker 2: poor and his father died when he was young, but
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: he trained at the Weber Douglas Academy of Dramatic Art.
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  Speaker 2: You want to know who his classmate was, and then
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: he would live together later on with Michael Caine.
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  Speaker 1: Really they were.
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  Speaker 2: Both at the Webber Douglas Academy of Dramatic Art at
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: the same time. So he broke out in the early
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: sixties with Billy Budd where he was nominated for an
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Oscar for Best Actor. Right out of the Gate one
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: of his earliest movies. But we get to the nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighties and he played General Zod in Superman two.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: Superman you will find out General and when you do
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  Speaker 4: come to me, Supermanda might defy you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, that's one of the best villains of the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighties.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: He showed that villains could be elegant, philosophical and terrifying
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: all at the same time, long before that became the norm.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: And it makes me wonder I wouldn't be surprised to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: find out if Hans Gruber was influenced right, true by
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: parents playing.
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  Speaker 1: ZD I'm laughing, but you know what, you make a
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: good point there.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean then they're probably two of the four
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: best villains of the nineteen eighties.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he was.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: So here's another thing. He was also in the in
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: the eighties. He was also in the movie Legal Eagles
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: with Robert Redford.
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, all they all time.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: It all comes back together. So he had just he
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: had a fantastic voice, and he would go on to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: play the voice of Jurrell in Smallville. So he was
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: still tied to that Superman universe. But yeah, seven year
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: old Jim went to see Superman two. He thought it
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: was the greatest thing that ever happened in the history
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: of cinema. And General Side was the bad guy, and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: I feared him and I feared for Superman's life because
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: of him and his two minions, and he was just
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: he was fantastic and he had the hair with the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: with the skinny beard, the mustache, and he just came
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: in dominating the USA, and he was so smart and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: you know, didn't put up with fools. And Terrence Stamp
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: was with Robert Redford. He was also with Gene Hackman
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Superman and so they're both, you know, villains, but they
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: both have their own things. And it was funny because
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: at one point Gene Hackman Lex Luthor kind of smarts
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: off to him, and he was like, why do you
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: say this to me when you know that I will
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: kill you?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: And uh.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: And then at one point, you know, he they you know,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: they come together and they're gonna get together, and then
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Superman shows back up because he's been gone forever. Superman
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: shows back up and you see, you know, after they
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: had destroyed the Daily Planet and they were going after
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Lois Landing, you see a Lex Luthor and Gene Hackman
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: go oh, Superman, thank God.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: And then they look at him and he's like, I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: mean get them.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: So so yeah, I just I loved Terrence Stamp as
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I loved Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor. I love Superman too.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: My Superman is and will always be Christopher Reeve. Yeah,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: and rest in peace, mister Terrence Stamp. All right, you've
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: got our last one that we're gonna focus.
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  Speaker 1: On here, last, but not least. Val Kilmer passed away
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: in April of twenty twenty five. He leaves behind a
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: powerful legacy. Is one of Hollywood's most versatile and magnetic actors.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Born in la in nineteen fifty nine, Kilmer was the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: youngest student ever accepted into Juilliard's drama program, a sign
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: early on of the talent that would define his career.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: He first captured audience's attention with his comedic turn in
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Top Secret, Yes, before becoming a pop culture icon as
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Iceman in Top Gun Yes. From there, his range only expanded,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: whether embodying rock legend Jim Morrison in The Doors, bringing
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: brooding intensity to Batman Forever, or stealing scenes as the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: sharp tongued doc Holiday and Tombstone.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: We have mentioned my three favorite movies of all time.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: A role many consider one of the greatest performances in
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: modern westerns.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I would agree with that.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Later in life, Kilmer faced immense personal challenges after being
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: diagnosed with throat cancer in twenty fourteen, a battle that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: permanently affected his voice but never dimmed his creative spirit.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: He continued acting, writing and painting, and his deeply personal
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: documentary Vow gave fans an intimate look at both his
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: brilliance and his resilience in his final years. His emotional
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: return as Iceman in Top Gun Maverick became a poignant
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: moment for audiences worldwide, a reminder of his lasting impact
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: on film and on the people who loved his work.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: So that's a tough one. That's a tough one.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And we talked about his documentary Vow. We talked
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: about that in a previous episode, so he can go
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: back and find that. But yeah, this was a tough one.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: He'd kind of obviously been out of the limelight for
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: about eleven years since he got the throat cancer in
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: the first place. But he was a fantastic actor.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: He suffered, and that's that's hard to.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Watch, Yeah, it really is.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: But I loved the way he was honored in Top
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Gun Maverick m h. I've said repeatedly that's one of
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: the best movies ever made, and I will say it
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: was absolutely the most impressive nod to an eighties icon.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, okay, yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: They did him. They did him right, they did they did. Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: They honored him for sure in that movie.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: So now I gotta know, did you ever see the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: movie Heat? Yes? Okay, so I hadn't. I guess Robert
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: de Niro was in that movie as well, and Al Pacino.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: So Kilmer is especially famous for that role because of
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: the downtown shootout scene. His tactical reload during the firefight
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: is often cited by military and law enforcement professionals as
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: one of the most realistic ever shown in a movie.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, I mean he learned his craft.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: That's cool. So anyways, this is man. I'm bombed. I'm
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go eat some chocolate. So obviously this
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: is the shortlist of stars that we lost in twenty
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: twenty five. There are numerous ones that we are not mentioning.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Either we feel like we've already talked about them in
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: a previous episode or just time didn't allow.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Well, We're going to go through and mention them, kind
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: of like they scroll through the things on the oscars,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: you know. So Bob Yuker, we talked about him on
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: our episode Mister Belvedere and Mister Baseball. Clym Burke, the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: drummer for Blondie Call Me Rapture, the tightest high eighties hits.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Danielle Spencer, who was who played d on What's Happening.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, she was the best character on that show. Yep,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: she had a rough life. She was actually in a
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: car accident in between season one and two or season
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: two and three, where she almost lost her life. Oh.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: David Johansson better known as Buster Poindexter in the eighties,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: he was on our Hot multi lingual episode eighties hits
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: with Hot Hot Hot. You see my shakers, Yes, I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: do see that, I do see that.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I get this one. Diane Keaton, she was in all
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: kinds of stuff, Annie Hall, the Godfather movies, Reds.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: In the nineteen eighties.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: She was in Reds and then she did a ton
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: of stuff in the nineties. Right.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: And if you want to hear more about her, go
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: check out our friends at pop Culture Yearbook, who dedicated
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: an entire episode to her career in December. George Foreman
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: passed away last year. He was a heavyweight champion in
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies when he beat up on Joe Frasier
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: named all of his children George named all of George one,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: George two, George three. In the seventies, he was a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: very angry and feared man. People thought that he was
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: gonna kill Muhammad Ali, but Muhammad Ali beat him with
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: his strategy, what he called the ropodope. He would be
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: famous for be coming to a boxing commentator later on
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: for HBO, But he made a comeback in the nineteen
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: nineties and won the heavyweight championship again.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you were going to talk about his
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: other comeback. Yeah. Yeah, uh.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: He won the heavyweight championship again when he knocked out
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Michael Moore, the documentarian, But no, not more more error.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Probably wouldn't be hard to knock Michael Bore out, But
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: he's most people probably know him because of George Foreman.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Grill right, everybody's got a George Foreman. Yeah, everybody's got.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: A George Foreman.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Grow.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I love Big George. He just had such a good
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: heart after he got over his anger issues.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: What people say about.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Me, yeah, uh, but yeah, I just loved him. He
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: was just such an affable character.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Kitty Docaucus, wife of former presidential candidate Michael Doucoccus, talked
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: openly about her mental health issues with depression and anxiety.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: She made it okay for the rest of us to
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: talk about it too.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Loretta Switt, who played Hot Lips Hula Han on Mash,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: we have both agreed that we hated Mash growing up,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: and that song, uh is called We hate that song too,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: but it was on our seventies bracket. You know what
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: that song is called. It's called Suicide is Painless, but
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: it should be called suicide is painless.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: But listening to this song is not Lynn, Maurice Stewart,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: miss Yvonne on Peewee's Playhouse.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah you love that show, didn't you love?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: She passed away? Malcolm Jamal Warner and Ozzy Osbourne, they
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: passed away the same week that Hulk Hogan did, and
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: we talked about them. We did a three for Yeah,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: we did, we did.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: We've invited our buddy Justin on to talk about all
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: three and so you can go back and listen to
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: that episode if you want to hear more on Malcolm
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Jamal Warner, Ozzie Osbourne, and Hulk Hogan. Steve McMichael who
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: played for the Bear Super Bowl twenty champion. He would
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: go on in the nineties to wrestle in the WCW
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: as one of the Four Horsemen. But my favorite story
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: about Steve McMichael was because he played in Chicago, he
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: would he got to sing the seventh inning stretch. Take
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: me out to the ballgame. Angel Hernandez was the umpire
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: behind the plate, most famously known for probably being the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: worst umpire in the history of major leagues, and Steve
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: McMichael said, Uh, I'm gonna go down and have a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: talk with the umpire about making some good calls and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Angel Hernandez was furious and just stared up at the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: box as Steve McMichael singh take me out to the ballgame.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Last two Walter Scott Junior. He was co founder of
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: the band The Whispers who had the hit in nineteen
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: eighty seven rock Steady, which we've talked about before on
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: this show. And then finally Wink Martindale oh Win, host
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: of the game show Tic Tac Dough, which was maybe
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: not one of my favorite game shows in the eighties,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: but certainly one that I watched and I enjoyed, even
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: though it was probably in the seventies and then early eighties.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. We lost a lot this year.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: We did. We lost a lot, and each year is
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: just gonna get worse.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with you? Well it is.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, more and more stars are going to continue
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: to pass away as we get older. Okay, it's just
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: the circle of life. As Elton John saying he's still
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: with us.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to say, he's not doing too hot,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: but he's still with this, Thank goodness. So if you
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: stuck with us this far, we appreciate.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, we didn't mean to bring we hope you, uh,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: you get to celebrate their lives as well.
• 1:14:03
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• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I know we've got some good stuff coming up.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: We do. We're gonna pick up the pace here, yeah,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: pick up the spirit, pick up the spirit.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: No more death, none, no doubt. Actually we'll be talking
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: about the death of MTV.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Oh wonderful.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: We're gonna continue with our death theme and talk about
• 1:14:55
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  Speaker 1: Now until next time, I'm Jim Waiting in York. Are